AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain

[red hander]

It'll be interesting to see next year can Tyrone finally do 2 years back-to-back. Even getting to the final in consecutive years would be a new horizon for them. Cavan and Down are the only 2 Ulster counties who've managed to retain Sam Maguire so it's now 60 years since an Ulster county has done so.

Good teams win Sam Maguire. Great teams retain Sam Maguire.

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

Tyrone are one behind Cavan & Down in titles. They'll soon be overtaking them !

Cavan won their last Sam in the 50s and owe their success to the establishment of Norn Irn , the shock that followed and the lack of competition in Ulster. So Tyrone may pass them out.

Down are different. They didn't require any artificial political stimulants. They won't be stuck on 5. If Tyrone pass them out they will respond in due course.

Did Tyrone ever beat Dublin in an all Ireland final ? For  connoisseurs of the game, beating  Dublin would rate well above beating Armagh and Mayo.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh tonight.

[imtommygunn]

It'll be interesting to see next year can Tyrone finally do 2 years back-to-back. Even getting to the final in consecutive years would be a new horizon for them. Cavan and Down are the only 2 Ulster counties who've managed to retain Sam Maguire so it's now 60 years since an Ulster county has done so.

Good teams win Sam Maguire. Great teams retain Sam Maguire.

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

Tyrone are one behind Cavan & Down in titles. They'll soon be overtaking them !

Cavan won their last Sam in the 50s and owe their success to the establishment of Norn Irn , the shock that followed and the lack of competition in Ulster. So Tyrone may pass them out.

Down are different. They didn't require any artificial political stimulants. They won't be stuck on 5. If Tyrone pass them out they will respond in due course.

Did Tyrone ever beat Dublin in an all Ireland final ? For  connoisseurs of the game, beating  Dublin would rate well above beating Armagh and Mayo.

They have beat Kerry in two all Ireland finals and in the semi in another two and beat Dublin on the way to one so connoisseurs have been beaten.

Down just haven't got it at the minute. They are miles off and by the look of it will be for a long time. They are further off than Galway...

[Jayop]

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

That's as bad a take as you could hope to see.

Ulster football pre 1950 was essentially Cavan running riot. When Tyrone won their first Ulster title in 1956, Cavan were on 33. Since then because the rest of Ulster have their house in order Cavan have only added 6 to Tyrone's 16.

So anyway, we're joint second now in Ulster titles and just 1 AI behind Cavan and Down. I know I'd be optimistic about us picking up our next one before either of those teams regardless of how long it takes.

Can we catch Cavan for Ulster titles, who knows, but not in our lifetimes thank god because we now have an actual competitive championship which means something to the teams in it and the fans.

[BennyCake]

It'll be interesting to see next year can Tyrone finally do 2 years back-to-back. Even getting to the final in consecutive years would be a new horizon for them. Cavan and Down are the only 2 Ulster counties who've managed to retain Sam Maguire so it's now 60 years since an Ulster county has done so.

Good teams win Sam Maguire. Great teams retain Sam Maguire.

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

Tyrone are one behind Cavan & Down in titles. They'll soon be overtaking them !

Cavan won their last Sam in the 50s and owe their success to the establishment of Norn Irn , the shock that followed and the lack of competition in Ulster. So Tyrone may pass them out.

Down are different. They didn't require any artificial political stimulants. They won't be stuck on 5. If Tyrone pass them out they will respond in due course.

Did Tyrone ever beat Dublin in an all Ireland final ? For  connoisseurs of the game, beating  Dublin would rate well above beating Armagh and Mayo.

So Tyrones AI titles in 2003 and 2021 don't mean as much because they didn't beat Dublin or Kerry in the final?

There you go then, more All Ireland's with an asterisk 

2003 - handy All Ireland
2005 - a back door All Ireland
2008 - another back door All Ireland
2021 - the Covid bluff All Ireland

You might as well say Tyrone have never yet won the All Ireland

[Armagh18]

It'll be interesting to see next year can Tyrone finally do 2 years back-to-back. Even getting to the final in consecutive years would be a new horizon for them. Cavan and Down are the only 2 Ulster counties who've managed to retain Sam Maguire so it's now 60 years since an Ulster county has done so.

Good teams win Sam Maguire. Great teams retain Sam Maguire.

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

Tyrone are one behind Cavan & Down in titles. They'll soon be overtaking them !

Cavan won their last Sam in the 50s and owe their success to the establishment of Norn Irn , the shock that followed and the lack of competition in Ulster. So Tyrone may pass them out.

Down are different. They didn't require any artificial political stimulants. They won't be stuck on 5. If Tyrone pass them out they will respond in due course.

Did Tyrone ever beat Dublin in an all Ireland final ? For  connoisseurs of the game, beating  Dublin would rate well above beating Armagh and Mayo.

Did they not beat Kerry in 05 and 08? Thats above beating Dublin (certainly was then anyway)

[imtommygunn]

Every year they have won an ai they have beat Kerry.

[Armagh18]

It'll be interesting to see next year can Tyrone finally do 2 years back-to-back. Even getting to the final in consecutive years would be a new horizon for them. Cavan and Down are the only 2 Ulster counties who've managed to retain Sam Maguire so it's now 60 years since an Ulster county has done so.

Good teams win Sam Maguire. Great teams retain Sam Maguire.

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

Tyrone are one behind Cavan & Down in titles. They'll soon be overtaking them !

Cavan won their last Sam in the 50s and owe their success to the establishment of Norn Irn , the shock that followed and the lack of competition in Ulster. So Tyrone may pass them out.

Down are different. They didn't require any artificial political stimulants. They won't be stuck on 5. If Tyrone pass them out they will respond in due course.

Did Tyrone ever beat Dublin in an all Ireland final ? For  connoisseurs of the game, beating  Dublin would rate well above beating Armagh and Mayo.

So Tyrones AI titles in 2003 and 2021 don't mean as much because they didn't beat Dublin or Kerry in the final?

There you go then, more All Ireland's with an asterisk 

2003 - handy All Ireland
2005 - a back door All Ireland
2008 - another back door All Ireland
2021 - the Covid bluff All Ireland

You might as well say Tyrone have never yet won the All Ireland

Yes lets go with this.

[yellowcard]

No such thing as an easy All Ireland and it doesn't matter who you beat enroute. But the All Ireland that Dublin won in 2020 must go down as the softest win in recent history.

[delgany]

It'll be interesting to see next year can Tyrone finally do 2 years back-to-back. Even getting to the final in consecutive years would be a new horizon for them. Cavan and Down are the only 2 Ulster counties who've managed to retain Sam Maguire so it's now 60 years since an Ulster county has done so.

Good teams win Sam Maguire. Great teams retain Sam Maguire.

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

Tyrone are one behind Cavan & Down in titles. They'll soon be overtaking them !

Cavan won their last Sam in the 50s and owe their success to the establishment of Norn Irn , the shock that followed and the lack of competition in Ulster. So Tyrone may pass them out.

Down are different. They didn't require any artificial political stimulants. They won't be stuck on 5. If Tyrone pass them out they will respond in due course.

Did Tyrone ever beat Dublin in an all Ireland final ? For  connoisseurs of the game, beating  Dublin would rate well above beating Armagh and Mayo.

So Tyrones AI titles in 2003 and 2021 don't mean as much because they didn't beat Dublin or Kerry in the final?

There you go then, more All Ireland's with an asterisk 

2003 - handy All Ireland
2005 - a back door All Ireland
2008 - another back door All Ireland
2021 - the Covid bluff All Ireland

You might as well say Tyrone have never yet won the All Ireland

Nobody remembers who you beat , but they know how many times youve won it

Down wont win Sam in the next 20 years ! Complete shambles

[RedHand88]

It'll be interesting to see next year can Tyrone finally do 2 years back-to-back. Even getting to the final in consecutive years would be a new horizon for them. Cavan and Down are the only 2 Ulster counties who've managed to retain Sam Maguire so it's now 60 years since an Ulster county has done so.

Good teams win Sam Maguire. Great teams retain Sam Maguire.

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

Tyrone are one behind Cavan & Down in titles. They'll soon be overtaking them !

Cavan won their last Sam in the 50s and owe their success to the establishment of Norn Irn , the shock that followed and the lack of competition in Ulster. So Tyrone may pass them out.

Down are different. They didn't require any artificial political stimulants. They won't be stuck on 5. If Tyrone pass them out they will respond in due course.

Did Tyrone ever beat Dublin in an all Ireland final ? For  connoisseurs of the game, beating  Dublin would rate well above beating Armagh and Mayo.

They have beat Kerry in two all Ireland finals and in the semi in another two and beat Dublin on the way to one so connoisseurs have been beaten.

Down just haven't got it at the minute. They are miles off and by the look of it will be for a long time. They are further off than Galway...

Two! 05 and 08 quarter finals. Maybe they'll say they don't count because quarter finals didn't exist until 2002 or whatever. Ahhhh I can't keep track of what doesn't count anymore.

[BennyCake]

It'll be interesting to see next year can Tyrone finally do 2 years back-to-back. Even getting to the final in consecutive years would be a new horizon for them. Cavan and Down are the only 2 Ulster counties who've managed to retain Sam Maguire so it's now 60 years since an Ulster county has done so.

Good teams win Sam Maguire. Great teams retain Sam Maguire.

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

Tyrone are one behind Cavan & Down in titles. They'll soon be overtaking them !

Cavan won their last Sam in the 50s and owe their success to the establishment of Norn Irn , the shock that followed and the lack of competition in Ulster. So Tyrone may pass them out.

Down are different. They didn't require any artificial political stimulants. They won't be stuck on 5. If Tyrone pass them out they will respond in due course.

Did Tyrone ever beat Dublin in an all Ireland final ? For  connoisseurs of the game, beating  Dublin would rate well above beating Armagh and Mayo.

They have beat Kerry in two all Ireland finals and in the semi in another two and beat Dublin on the way to one so connoisseurs have been beaten.

Down just haven't got it at the minute. They are miles off and by the look of it will be for a long time. They are further off than Galway...

Two! 05 and 08 quarter finals. Maybe they'll say they don't count because quarter finals didn't exist until 2002 or whatever. Ahhhh I can't keep track of what doesn't count anymore.

Tyrone's All Ireland's. But you knew that already 

[nrico2006]

It'll be interesting to see next year can Tyrone finally do 2 years back-to-back. Even getting to the final in consecutive years would be a new horizon for them. Cavan and Down are the only 2 Ulster counties who've managed to retain Sam Maguire so it's now 60 years since an Ulster county has done so.

Good teams win Sam Maguire. Great teams retain Sam Maguire.

Tyrone would have a long way to go to be spoken off in the echelons of Ulster aristocracy.

Tyrone are one behind Cavan & Down in titles. They'll soon be overtaking them !

Cavan won their last Sam in the 50s and owe their success to the establishment of Norn Irn , the shock that followed and the lack of competition in Ulster. So Tyrone may pass them out.

Down are different. They didn't require any artificial political stimulants. They won't be stuck on 5. If Tyrone pass them out they will respond in due course.

Did Tyrone ever beat Dublin in an all Ireland final ? For  connoisseurs of the game, beating  Dublin would rate well above beating Armagh and Mayo.

Down aren't going to win an All Ireland any time soon.  They will be stuck on 5 for a few decades at least.

[Keyser soze]

Kevin McStay

Here's a story. O'Shea lost his fifth final on Saturday, December 19th, 2020. He didn't score. Dublin won with no undue fuss. On Monday, January 18th 2021 a friend of mine had a meeting with a sports consultant in the Sism gym in Castlebar. It is run by a member of the Mayo backroom team. It was a wet damp old morning and as he went into the office, my friend spotted O'Shea doing a weights session. He had started back the week before. People don't see that side of it. He has been doing this for a decade. Joe doesn't see that. Up to recently, Aidan O'Shea hadn't missed a game for Mayo in 10 years. I imagine that he won't miss many next summer either.

Does he not realise how bad that makes O'Shea look? All that effort and he hasn't improved one bit as a player since 2012.

''Trying is the first step toward failure'' Homer Simpson[/b]

This seem to be your motto.

Thats bollocks mate.

Homer in fact said  'if something's hard to do, it's not worth doing'

[iorras]

What do the Mayo posters think of Horan?

I think out of the 4 Finals where he's been in charge in 3 of them he's not come out of it looking too good.

Agreed, hes not the man to win it. I said there was probably no point in him coming back if he hadn't changed the very obvious flaws that he had, on top of alot of good dont get me wrong. His flaws:
1. Having no tactical plan for the opposition, just play "our way" that works to a point but will always be found out eventually
2. Refusing to listen to anyone else, you could see it again Saturday, selectors giving him advice and he just ignoring it. Who does that? I expect some of them to walk away now.
I cant for the life of me, well I probably know its because JH is too stubborn, why the f**k didnt he look for some help from Stephen Rochford? Hes the only man who has actually got us to the point of having a legitimate chance of winning it and is Mr Tactics. If he had been invited to contribute to a tactical plan and been listened to, Mayo would have won on Saturday.
Aidan O'Shea on Kieran Donaghy? JH wouldn't do that in a million years.

[sensethetone]

Kevin McStay

Here's a story. O'Shea lost his fifth final on Saturday, December 19th, 2020. He didn't score. Dublin won with no undue fuss. On Monday, January 18th 2021 a friend of mine had a meeting with a sports consultant in the Sism gym in Castlebar. It is run by a member of the Mayo backroom team. It was a wet damp old morning and as he went into the office, my friend spotted O'Shea doing a weights session. He had started back the week before. People don't see that side of it. He has been doing this for a decade. Joe doesn't see that. Up to recently, Aidan O'Shea hadn't missed a game for Mayo in 10 years. I imagine that he won't miss many next summer either.

Does he not realise how bad that makes O'Shea look? All that effort and he hasn't improved one bit as a player since 2012.

''Trying is the first step toward failure'' Homer Simpson[/b]

This seem to be your motto.

Thats bollocks mate.

Homer in fact said  'if something's hard to do, it's not worth doing'

He may have said both quotes.