Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)

Started by Mayo4Sam14, August 01, 2021, 05:34:03 PM

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Mayo or Dublin?

Mayo
36 (50%)
Dublin
36 (50%)

Total Members Voted: 72

Voting closed: August 14, 2021, 05:34:03 PM

Champion The Wonder Horse

Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 15, 2021, 05:56:53 PM
Just had a funny thought there.

If Dean Rock had missed that free kick in the 2017 when Keegan threw the GPS at him would it have been retaken?

Quite possibly, if one or other of the teams had more than fifteen players on the pitch at the time, which is why Lane ordered the retake last night.

Farrandeelin

Quote from: WhoDat on August 15, 2021, 10:30:49 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 15, 2021, 09:28:00 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 15, 2021, 06:10:01 PM
Wonder if the gaa will take action against small. Actually I know the answer will be no but the ref missed a red card offence resulting in a player with a broken jaw.

That Dublin team has been getting away with cynical play for years. Bad enough about the funding, home venue every game etc but to add in favouritism from the ref no wonder they went unbeaten for years. Christ it took some serious fouling for the ref to give out a few cards when the game was almost over.

100% agree with your last paragraph. Apparently one of the Dublin players spat in the face of one of the Mayo players in the tunnel after the game as well. Hope he hasn't Covid if true.

who was spitting? find it hard to believe as dublin headed back into the dressing rooms while mayo stayed on the pitch a while after

I know, that's why I said apparently. I'm not naming amyone in case it isn't true. Hopefully it isn't true.
Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

Champion The Wonder Horse

Quote from: Halfquarter on August 15, 2021, 10:31:58 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 15, 2021, 11:58:20 AM
Ach I really hope he's ok for the final and it's not a broken jaw.  How the ref let play continue I do not know.
I remember Dublin emptying Peter Crowley with a late hit in the last play of the semi-final a few years ago and the ref ignored it that day as well and it swung the game. 
Yesterday was ridiculous, the ref actually kept looking back, it was clear McLaughlin hit the ground like a sack of spuds, but he let Dublin if for a goal chance anyway.

Disgusting piece of thuggery from Small,double broken jaw for McLaughlin, will miss the All Ireland.

As for McStay not calling it out, he's gone way down in my estimation.

I'm amazed how many people thought it was a fair challenge when they first saw it.

imtommygunn

Has John small not been sent off more times than anyone else in all Ireland finals? Not new for him to not be the cleanest.

Every winning team in Gaelic has players who has no angels in them. McCarthy and small in particular for Dublin, Tomas O'Se, Peter Crowley for Kerry, McGee in particular for Donegal, Tyrone had a few, Armagh had a few etc. Not specific to Dublin. Mayo have one or two as well lol. I wouldn't say a couple of boys being dirty hallions ruins their reputation. Pretty much every successful Gaa team in history has a few.

ardtole

Quote from: Halfquarter on August 15, 2021, 10:31:58 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 15, 2021, 11:58:20 AM
Ach I really hope he's ok for the final and it's not a broken jaw.  How the ref let play continue I do not know.
I remember Dublin emptying Peter Crowley with a late hit in the last play of the semi-final a few years ago and the ref ignored it that day as well and it swung the game. 
Yesterday was ridiculous, the ref actually kept looking back, it was clear McLaughlin hit the ground like a sack of spuds, but he let Dublin if for a goal chance anyway.

Disgusting piece of thuggery from Small,double broken jaw for McLaughlin, will miss the All Ireland.

As for McStay not calling it out, he's gone way down in my estimation.

McStay was terrible last night. Has he a chip on his shoulder after being overlooked for the mayo job?.

I couldnt believe what I was hearing at times. If he is covering the final, I think id switch over to sky

WhoDat

mcstay was a parody on the commentary. preoccupied with appearing unbiased and subsequently way overcompensated

Mayo4Sam14

Quote from: ONeill on August 15, 2021, 10:10:03 PM
How many Dublin players were on the field at the end? 12 or 13?

13, Byrne got two yellows but one in normal and extra time so wasn't a red
You can forget about Sean Cavanagh as far as he's a man!

Never beat the deeler

Quote from: rodney trotter on August 15, 2021, 05:58:41 PM
A double jaw fracture McLaughlin got from the challenge https://t.co/2l6eXaIFQH?amp=1

where did you hear this? The article you have linked doesn't mention it
Thanks
Hasta la victoria siempre

straightred

So the 45 was retaken because Mayo had 16 players on the pitch. Seems strange to penalise Dublin for a Mayo mistake ?

Never beat the deeler

Quote from: Never beat the deeler on August 15, 2021, 10:46:28 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 15, 2021, 05:58:41 PM
A double jaw fracture McLaughlin got from the challenge https://t.co/2l6eXaIFQH?amp=1

where did you hear this? The article you have linked doesn't mention it
Thanks

Just spotted the same article was tweeted from the RTE account with "double jaw fracture" in the headline. Looks like it was subsequently amended.
Off The Ball had Pilar Caffrey on and he was still claiming it wasn't a foul as he had watched it multiple times. You couldn't make it up
Hasta la victoria siempre

gallsman

Quote from: tyrone08 on August 15, 2021, 10:29:43 PM
Sunday game showing a few more strikes by the small brothers. Absolute tramps, closed fist off the ball strikes.

There was only one from Paddy that I recall, that was featured prominently in the live coverage of the game. It was on the ball as he fouled, you know, the man with the ball. Should have been red.

ONeill

Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on August 15, 2021, 10:35:46 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on August 15, 2021, 10:31:58 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 15, 2021, 11:58:20 AM
Ach I really hope he's ok for the final and it's not a broken jaw.  How the ref let play continue I do not know.
I remember Dublin emptying Peter Crowley with a late hit in the last play of the semi-final a few years ago and the ref ignored it that day as well and it swung the game. 
Yesterday was ridiculous, the ref actually kept looking back, it was clear McLaughlin hit the ground like a sack of spuds, but he let Dublin if for a goal chance anyway.

Disgusting piece of thuggery from Small,double broken jaw for McLaughlin, will miss the All Ireland.

As for McStay not calling it out, he's gone way down in my estimation.

I'm amazed how many people thought it was a fair challenge when they first saw it.

I don't think it was a clear-cut foul. It looked more like Small went to meet him shoulder to shoulder but McLaughlin changed stance at the last minute.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

tyrone08

Quote from: gallsman on August 15, 2021, 10:53:04 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 15, 2021, 10:29:43 PM
Sunday game showing a few more strikes by the small brothers. Absolute tramps, closed fist off the ball strikes.

There was only one from Paddy that I recall, that was featured prominently in the live coverage of the game. It was on the ball as he fouled, you know, the man with the ball. Should have been red.

There was another one where it looked like a high challenge but it was a closed fist to the jaw by paddy. Then the other one was another closed fist to the jaw at the end of the 2nd half, same time as McCarthy elbow strike.

https://twitter.com/josephg99507130/status/1427017817556234248?s=19

gallsman

Quote from: ONeill on August 15, 2021, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on August 15, 2021, 10:35:46 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on August 15, 2021, 10:31:58 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 15, 2021, 11:58:20 AM
Ach I really hope he's ok for the final and it's not a broken jaw.  How the ref let play continue I do not know.
I remember Dublin emptying Peter Crowley with a late hit in the last play of the semi-final a few years ago and the ref ignored it that day as well and it swung the game. 
Yesterday was ridiculous, the ref actually kept looking back, it was clear McLaughlin hit the ground like a sack of spuds, but he let Dublin if for a goal chance anyway.

Disgusting piece of thuggery from Small,double broken jaw for McLaughlin, will miss the All Ireland.

As for McStay not calling it out, he's gone way down in my estimation.

I'm amazed how many people thought it was a fair challenge when they first saw it.

I don't think it was a clear-cut foul. It looked more like Small went to meet him shoulder to shoulder but McLaughlin changed stance at the last minute.

Calling it thuggery is nonsense. He wasn't trying to smash hits jaw with a shoulder ffs.

Small went to do him and lined him up, as he's perfectly entitled to do. He fucked up the angle and was reckless, smacking McLaughlin square in the jaw, causing a horrific injury. Red card all day long and a hefty suspension. That's all there is to it. How Conor Lane didn't stop the game for the head injury I'll never know. McLaughlin was out and flat on the ground in milliseconds.

Never beat the deeler

Quote from: gallsman on August 15, 2021, 11:14:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 15, 2021, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on August 15, 2021, 10:35:46 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on August 15, 2021, 10:31:58 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 15, 2021, 11:58:20 AM
Ach I really hope he's ok for the final and it's not a broken jaw.  How the ref let play continue I do not know.
I remember Dublin emptying Peter Crowley with a late hit in the last play of the semi-final a few years ago and the ref ignored it that day as well and it swung the game. 
Yesterday was ridiculous, the ref actually kept looking back, it was clear McLaughlin hit the ground like a sack of spuds, but he let Dublin if for a goal chance anyway.

Disgusting piece of thuggery from Small,double broken jaw for McLaughlin, will miss the All Ireland.

As for McStay not calling it out, he's gone way down in my estimation.

I'm amazed how many people thought it was a fair challenge when they first saw it.

I don't think it was a clear-cut foul. It looked more like Small went to meet him shoulder to shoulder but McLaughlin changed stance at the last minute.

Calling it thuggery is nonsense. He wasn't trying to smash hits jaw with a shoulder ffs.

Small went to do him and lined him up, as he's perfectly entitled to do. He fucked up the angle and was reckless, smacking McLaughlin square in the jaw, causing a horrific injury. Red card all day long and a hefty suspension. That's all there is to it. How Conor Lane didn't stop the game for the head injury I'll never know. McLaughlin was out and flat on the ground in milliseconds.

This is pretty much my view on it, and Billy Joe Padden had the same sentiment on Off the Ball. If you are going in to hit someone hard and fair, the onus is on you not to hit the player high. If you (accidentally or otherwise) hit the player in the face, it should be a suspension. Player safety should be paramount as it is in other physical team sports like rugby and AFL.
Watching it on TV, it never looked to me like it was square as McL was facing Small, and it looked like straight into the chest. Was clear Eoghan was in trouble and ref should have stopped play
Hasta la victoria siempre