Author Topic: Ulster Championship 2021  (Read 51549 times)

tyrone08

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 405
    • View Profile
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #750 on: July 20, 2021, 01:56:38 PM »
I don't mind him but I think it's time to rethink for Donegal. They should be doing a lot better with the players they have at their disposal. I don't think there's an AI in them but best in Ulster should be very achievable.

I’d say that’s probably the view of most inside the county.

Bonner did all right, but time to let someone else try their hand at it.

A lot probably depends on who would be interested.

Maybe Murphy can do a McEniff and try player-manager now that he’s washed up. :P

Last year worse than this year tbh. No shame in getting beat by Tyrone but should probably be running them a good bit closer than that.
With their  (soon to be washed up) talisman on the field all game I think Donegal would have prevailed. Tyrone only nailed the game in the last 10 minutes when they racked up 6 or so points in a row.   The scales were tipped when Murphy was dismissed.

 Would a return of Big Jim  to the manager's seat be realistic?

Probably the best thing for donegal but it will cost them. Jim's experience coaching soccer will go a long way in adding a professional atmosphere in the donegal camp. The personality of the donegal team at the minute is too reliant on mick murphy who as we seen on sunday is past it

How did last Sunday show that? If he was on the field for the full 70 minutes he could have provided the leadership for Donegal to edge that match.

Think people are really overpaying murphy being sent off. There were more valuable players in Donegal whos sending off would have had a bigger impact on the game. Prior the the sending off he was kept out game almost entirely. He should have never started the game and should have been brought on as a sub in the final 20 mins. It was piss poor managment from bonners part.
Like who?

Murphy leadership to that team is not in question and he occupies a number of defenders which creates the space for other forwards to cause damage.

For what it's worth I still think Tyrone would have won 15 v 15 as Donegal throughout was so loose defensively.

I don't mean in terms of leadership, I meant in terms of positively impacting the game. Murphy was well shackled for the first 30 mins and if he wasn't fit then it's highly likely he would have struggled more as the game went on. I was happier seeing  him starting as I thought if he came on in the last 15-20mims he would have provided enough of a boost to get Donegal over the line.

RedHand88

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2849
    • View Profile
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #751 on: July 21, 2021, 08:56:22 PM »
Any word of general sale tickets? Does Supervalu Coalisland have a replacement now it's closed?

Boycey

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5151
    • View Profile
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #752 on: July 21, 2021, 09:32:16 PM »
Any word of general sale tickets? Does Supervalu Coalisland have a replacement now it's closed?

Got a message from my club today, saying through clubs is currently the only way to get tickets. Seemed to be Croke Park driven

Rossfan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 18076
  • Ballaghaderreen CO ROSCOMMON
    • View Profile
    • Roscommon County Board official website
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #753 on: July 21, 2021, 09:36:06 PM »
Plenty of Connacht Final tickets on sale still.
Remember we're a noble race from a land where Kings once trod.

RedHand88

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2849
    • View Profile
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #754 on: July 21, 2021, 09:57:17 PM »
Any word of general sale tickets? Does Supervalu Coalisland have a replacement now it's closed?

Got a message from my club today, saying through clubs is currently the only way to get tickets. Seemed to be Croke Park driven

Well they would say that, wouldn't they.

Boycey

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5151
    • View Profile
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #755 on: July 21, 2021, 10:00:21 PM »
Any word of general sale tickets? Does Supervalu Coalisland have a replacement now it's closed?

Got a message from my club today, saying through clubs is currently the only way to get tickets. Seemed to be Croke Park driven

Well they would say that, wouldn't they.

I don't follow?

Rossfan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 18076
  • Ballaghaderreen CO ROSCOMMON
    • View Profile
    • Roscommon County Board official website
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #756 on: July 21, 2021, 10:04:49 PM »
They're bound to be selling some here
https://am.ticketmaster.com/gaa/
Remember we're a noble race from a land where Kings once trod.

RedHand88

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2849
    • View Profile
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #757 on: July 21, 2021, 10:13:54 PM »
Any word of general sale tickets? Does Supervalu Coalisland have a replacement now it's closed?

Got a message from my club today, saying through clubs is currently the only way to get tickets. Seemed to be Croke Park driven

Well they would say that, wouldn't they.

I don't follow?

They would say they are the only way to get tickets, whether they'll be going on sale via general sale, assuming it follows the same structure as the Connacht final.

Milltown Row2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 25711
  • It was the Ref that did it!!
    • View Profile
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #758 on: July 21, 2021, 10:16:53 PM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support
Anything I post is not the view of the County Board!! Nobody died in the making of this post ;-)

RedHand88

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2849
    • View Profile
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #759 on: July 21, 2021, 10:35:43 PM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

Milltown Row2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 25711
  • It was the Ref that did it!!
    • View Profile
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #760 on: July 22, 2021, 12:46:26 AM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

That’s probably true too, but I’d rather it go through clubs and if allocation is not taken up it can be fed back into something like ticketmaster, providing its same prices.

Clubs need revenue and if getting tickets through the clubs increases of their membership, that’ll be a great revenue, especially for popular counties who get to the latter stages of competitions.

I’m nearly sure rugby has similar system, If not someone will let me know
Anything I post is not the view of the County Board!! Nobody died in the making of this post ;-)

Franko

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2593
    • View Profile
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #761 on: July 22, 2021, 01:05:15 PM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.


There's also plenty of balloons running up and down the country 'supporting' their county, who wouldn't lift a finger to help their local club.

You know the type - young fella always has the most up to date strip, been at every McKenna Cup match since the big snow of 47 but the only players he could name on the club team are the 2 boys playing for the county.

I know who I'd rather give a ticket to.

BennyCake

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9316
    • View Profile
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #762 on: July 22, 2021, 01:54:43 PM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

There's also plenty of balloons running up and down the country 'supporting' their county, who wouldn't lift a finger to help their local club.

You know the type - young fella always has the most up to date strip, been at every McKenna Cup match since the big snow of 47 but the only players he could name on the club team are the 2 boys playing for the county.

I know who I'd rather give a ticket to.

What about the club members who never go to a county game? Have they any more right to a county ticket than a predominantly county supporter?

I know of lots of people who don’t really have much association with their local club, for a number of reasons. A lot of clubs are clannish, two or three families running the show, looking after themselves. It’s hard to feel involved if you weren’t a top player or don’t come from a local footballing dynasty. Or maybe your kids don’t play, so you’re less likely to stay involved.

APM

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 430
    • View Profile
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #763 on: July 22, 2021, 03:08:09 PM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

There's also plenty of balloons running up and down the country 'supporting' their county, who wouldn't lift a finger to help their local club.

You know the type - young fella always has the most up to date strip, been at every McKenna Cup match since the big snow of 47 but the only players he could name on the club team are the 2 boys playing for the county.

I know who I'd rather give a ticket to.

What about the club members who never go to a county game? Have they any more right to a county ticket than a predominantly county supporter?

I know of lots of people who don’t really have much association with their local club, for a number of reasons. A lot of clubs are clannish, two or three families running the show, looking after themselves. It’s hard to feel involved if you weren’t a top player or don’t come from a local footballing dynasty. Or maybe your kids don’t play, so you’re less likely to stay involved.

100%

There are lots of these people and they contribute in their own way to the association and games.  Moreover, not everyone continually contributes to a club.  Some might make a big effort for a few years and then fall back for a while.   

seafoid

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26027
    • View Profile
Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #764 on: July 22, 2021, 03:26:55 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/resilient-monaghan-pound-for-pound-the-best-county-in-gaelic-games-1.4626121

Resilient Monaghan: pound-for-pound the best county in Gaelic games
Brendan Óg Duffy will be remembered as one of county’s most outstanding players

 
Seán Moran

 
Monaghan players stand for a moment’s applause in memory of Under-20s captain Brendán Óg Duffy. Photograph: John McVitty/Inpho
 
 
You could tell listening to the radio that there was something odd about the commentary from Newry on Saturday. It was a rip-roaring match that Monaghan initially appeared to have settled very early. Hardly anyone could think of when the county might have last scored four goals in the first half of a championship match.
Yet Armagh reeled them back and with less than 10 minutes to go, hit the front. The once dominant opposition sounded as if they were flat, out of puff and ideas. The extraordinary talent and temperament of Conor McManus somehow dug Monaghan out of their predicament with three precise frees – almost disconnected from the turbulent reality.
Armagh must have been shell-shocked to have recovered from a nine-point half-time deficit to lead by two with six minutes left – only to get touched off by a late run of four unanswered points from a team whose spirit they looked to have broken.
What was by any standards a famous victory registered a somewhat downbeat response. The numbers in attendance were limited to a couple of thousand so Armagh had no significantly greater support and yet they made more noise and treated their reviving fortunes ecstatically.
Muted
The Monaghan support sounded muted – their greeting of the victory quieter and more subdued than such an amazing endgame would have merited in usual circumstances.
Of course the circumstances were far from usual.
The previous night, Brendan Óg Duffy had captained Monaghan under-20s to a terrific win over Donegal in an Ulster semi-final. The team bus had brought everyone back from Enniskillen to their cars, parked in the county GAA centre in Cloghan, and the players dispersed into the night.
It meant that his team-mates were among the first to the scene of the crash that claimed their captain’s life at the age of 19. The awful news rippled out in expanding circles and the force of the loss for family, club and county hit home throughout the GAA on a busy weekend.
In Cork, the under-20 footballers formed an “M” at the end of training and held a minute’s silence.
“There’s not a GAA home in Ireland that won’t be impacted by the news,” said Dublin manager Dessie Farrell, summing up a widespread sentiment.
Former Monaghan player Dick Clerkin wrote in his Irish Independent column about the helpless dislocation he felt on a family holiday in Kerry with his children who had “idolised” Brendan Duffy, as members of the local Monaghan Harps club.
Anyone who dies so young is going to be remembered for good things but in this case the clichés all had substance. He had captained Monaghan to an Ulster minor title and was spoken of as likely to replicate that role with the seniors in the future. An energetic leader on the field, he was sensible enough to decline a senior call-up in order to concentrate on his own cohort.
Brendan McAnallen, father of former Tyrone captain Cormac – another tragic and untimely loss – recounted that former president Mary McAleese had commiserated with him saying: “He only brought home good news.”
The loss is terrible for Monaghan GAA, which could be described as pound-for-pound the best county in Gaelic games.
With a population of little more than 60,000 – “the size of Drumcondra,” as one native reminded me – it has a couple of Ulster titles from the past decade and a consistent presence in Division One – retained as recently as last month after a fierce refusal to go down quietly despite being outplayed for most of the play-off by Galway.
The resilience on show that day asserted itself again last Saturday when defeat looked certain in the dying minutes of the Ulster semi-final.
Its economic life is also resilient with hardly any multi-national presence – on the upside, no big employers to relocate with big job losses – but a thriving small business sector and a big enterprise like Combilift, which employs 650 people and exports specialist forklift vehicles around the world.
Thriving
It was co-founded by locals Martin McVicar and Robert Moffett in the late 1990s and opened the current factory in Monaghan town three years ago.
Abroad, Carrickmacross man Philip Traynor, who also died last week, made a fortune in flooring buildings in New York, and sent some of it home to sponsor the county footballers.
The GAA is sustained by 32 clubs, most of whom have spectacularly well appointed premises, in some cases separate training grounds.
There is a thriving games development structure, run by Paul O’Connor, which has produced Ulster winning minor teams in 2018 and ‘19 and in the delayed 2020 season, the county this month lost the Ulster final narrowly to Derry, who last weekend won the All-Ireland, beating Kerry in the final.
Women’s football has always been strong and, unlike the men, is on the senior All-Ireland roll of honour with back-to-back wins in 1996 and ‘97, plus a number of narrow defeats in finals since then. That presence is growing and in some clubs there are as many girls enrolled as boys.
The county has produced influential administrators for the association this century, a recent DG, Páraic Duffy and former president Seán McCague who in the 1970s and ‘80s re-established Monaghan football as a force.
Brendan Óg Duffy made his way in those footsteps. His untimely death is a cause of terrible sadness but he will be remembered as an eternally vibrant heir to that outstanding tradition.
TG4 produced one of the many affecting tributes last weekend. It ended with the dedication: “Leaba i measc na n-aingeal”.
After a celebration of his life, he will be laid to rest today.
Lookit