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Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #765 on: July 22, 2021, 03:54:42 PM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

There's also plenty of balloons running up and down the country 'supporting' their county, who wouldn't lift a finger to help their local club.

You know the type - young fella always has the most up to date strip, been at every McKenna Cup match since the big snow of 47 but the only players he could name on the club team are the 2 boys playing for the county.

I know who I'd rather give a ticket to.

What about the club members who never go to a county game? Have they any more right to a county ticket than a predominantly county supporter?

I know of lots of people who donít really have much association with their local club, for a number of reasons. A lot of clubs are clannish, two or three families running the show, looking after themselves. Itís hard to feel involved if you werenít a top player or donít come from a local footballing dynasty. Or maybe your kids donít play, so youíre less likely to stay involved.

100%

There are lots of these people and they contribute in their own way to the association and games.  Moreover, not everyone continually contributes to a club.  Some might make a big effort for a few years and then fall back for a while.

I never got the supporter that just follows the county team and never at a club game, they are usually the mad one at the club who's been banned by the committee for shouting at the ref  ;D

I still believe GAA members should get first call, whether they may not contribute physically they are putting money into the local club to help it sustain the game, and that club will hopefully supply players to the county set up.

Any ticket allocation not used by the clubs should be used up via those ticket sites
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Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #766 on: July 22, 2021, 04:11:53 PM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

There's also plenty of balloons running up and down the country 'supporting' their county, who wouldn't lift a finger to help their local club.

You know the type - young fella always has the most up to date strip, been at every McKenna Cup match since the big snow of 47 but the only players he could name on the club team are the 2 boys playing for the county.

I know who I'd rather give a ticket to.

What about the club members who never go to a county game? Have they any more right to a county ticket than a predominantly county supporter?

I know of lots of people who donít really have much association with their local club, for a number of reasons. A lot of clubs are clannish, two or three families running the show, looking after themselves. Itís hard to feel involved if you werenít a top player or donít come from a local footballing dynasty. Or maybe your kids donít play, so youíre less likely to stay involved.

100%

There are lots of these people and they contribute in their own way to the association and games.  Moreover, not everyone continually contributes to a club.  Some might make a big effort for a few years and then fall back for a while.

I never got the supporter that just follows the county team and never at a club game, they are usually the mad one at the club who's been banned by the committee for shouting at the ref  ;D

I still believe GAA members should get first call, whether they may not contribute physically they are putting money into the local club to help it sustain the game, and that club will hopefully supply players to the county set up.

Any ticket allocation not used by the clubs should be used up via those ticket sites

Speaking for myself, I used to go to every Donegal game I could when I lived in Dublin. I simply didn't really get the opportunity to go to club matches as I was rarely home when they were on, even though I kept up my membership most years.

Knew a few people involved in southside clubs like Olafs or Crokes, but most people I knew in Dublin were either not into GAA, or if they were, were from somewhere up or down the country and not involved in any Dublin club.

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Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #767 on: July 22, 2021, 05:37:32 PM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

There's also plenty of balloons running up and down the country 'supporting' their county, who wouldn't lift a finger to help their local club.

You know the type - young fella always has the most up to date strip, been at every McKenna Cup match since the big snow of 47 but the only players he could name on the club team are the 2 boys playing for the county.

I know who I'd rather give a ticket to.

What about the club members who never go to a county game? Have they any more right to a county ticket than a predominantly county supporter?

I know of lots of people who donít really have much association with their local club, for a number of reasons. A lot of clubs are clannish, two or three families running the show, looking after themselves. Itís hard to feel involved if you werenít a top player or donít come from a local footballing dynasty. Or maybe your kids donít play, so youíre less likely to stay involved.

Firstly, I'd always prioritise the members of the association over the non-members.

Lets face it - a county match is a nice day out, but it's not exactly work and it does little to help the association other than the price of the ticket (which in our example is a moot point - as the tickets will be sold anyway).

Someone who coaches the kids teams, washes the jerseys, turns up at club fundraisers, takes a job on the committee etc is IMO far more crucial to the GAA than some Nigel who only follows the county team

And should be treated as such when tickets are being allocated - no matter how many times said Nigel has seen the county team play this year
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Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #768 on: July 22, 2021, 06:07:11 PM »
Someone who coaches the kids teams, washes the jerseys, turns up at club fundraisers, takes a job on the committee etc is IMO far more crucial to the GAA than some Nigel who only follows the county team

And should be treated as such when tickets are being allocated - no matter how many times said Nigel has seen the county team play this year

I think this is beyond doubt. However, Nigel would probably argue that he should get a ticket in preference in the brother in law of this guy who helps in the club, which is where the season tickets were useful.
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« Reply #769 on: July 22, 2021, 06:13:20 PM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

There's also plenty of balloons running up and down the country 'supporting' their county, who wouldn't lift a finger to help their local club.

You know the type - young fella always has the most up to date strip, been at every McKenna Cup match since the big snow of 47 but the only players he could name on the club team are the 2 boys playing for the county.

I know who I'd rather give a ticket to.

What about the club members who never go to a county game? Have they any more right to a county ticket than a predominantly county supporter?

I know of lots of people who donít really have much association with their local club, for a number of reasons. A lot of clubs are clannish, two or three families running the show, looking after themselves. Itís hard to feel involved if you werenít a top player or donít come from a local footballing dynasty. Or maybe your kids donít play, so youíre less likely to stay involved.

Firstly, I'd always prioritise the members of the association over the non-members.

Lets face it - a county match is a nice day out, but it's not exactly work and it does little to help the association other than the price of the ticket (which in our example is a moot point - as the tickets will be sold anyway).

Someone who coaches the kids teams, washes the jerseys, turns up at club fundraisers, takes a job on the committee etc is IMO far more crucial to the GAA than some Nigel who only follows the county team

And should be treated as such when tickets are being allocated - no matter how many times said Nigel has seen the county team play this year

So there should be a pecking order when it comes to AI tickets?

One club member who helps out with the u-10ís is more entitled to a ticket than one who cuts the grass? Surely contributing to the club via membership or lotto is important too, even if they donít participate in club activities as such. Not everyone has the time, knowledge or experience  to coach or sit as secretary/treasurer etc.

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« Reply #770 on: July 22, 2021, 06:49:30 PM »
Prioritise paid up members who put the effort into their local club, Iíve no probs with that. Our club on finals day, the names go into a draw and only members can win the tickets, Iím sure our very generous sponsors receive tickets and rightly so.

At county level referees names go into a hat also, itís difficult to have it any fairer.

Any tickets that are not taken up go back to the county but that never happens.

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Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #771 on: July 22, 2021, 08:00:49 PM »
Prioritise paid up members who put the effort into their local club, Iíve no probs with that. Our club on finals day, the names go into a draw and only members can win the tickets, Iím sure our very generous sponsors receive tickets and rightly so.

At county level referees names go into a hat also, itís difficult to have it any fairer.

Any tickets that are not taken up go back to the county but that never happens.

Totally agree with above MR. Iíd question that anyone who  doesnít respect that, isnít giving enough to their club, the lifeblood of our association.
Iíd also question
Someone who is able to afford to go to several county games , but resents paying his local club a £25 annual membership

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« Reply #772 on: July 22, 2021, 11:31:51 PM »
Mission
"The GAA is a community based volunteer organisation promoting Gaelic Games, culture and lifelong participation."

Itís there in black and white, community comes first. Volunteers who put work into the local community clubs deserve to be rewarded, end of. Take these volunteers away and the whole deck of cards falls down. Those who pay membership to their local club are helping to fund the above, people who donít join their local club or their home club are going against the ethos of the organisation they claim to support.

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« Reply #773 on: July 23, 2021, 09:00:07 AM »
Yeah - too many have started to view it like premier league football. No clubs no game - simple as that. Mind you the way the GAA go about it you wouldn't think that sometimes.

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Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #774 on: July 23, 2021, 09:34:44 AM »
Disappointed the final has been put in Croke. Ulster final belongs in Ulster, there are enough top class venues in the province. I appreciate a few more people will get into Croke but then thats more people travelling further unnecessarily. I would say it gives Tyrone an edge, maybe in the same way Clones should give Monaghan an edge. Leave the spiritual home of the association for Dublin v Longford turkey shoot.

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« Reply #775 on: July 23, 2021, 10:49:39 AM »
Disappointed the final has been put in Croke. Ulster final belongs in Ulster, there are enough top class venues in the province. I appreciate a few more people will get into Croke but then thats more people travelling further unnecessarily. I would say it gives Tyrone an edge, maybe in the same way Clones should give Monaghan an edge. Leave the spiritual home of the association for Dublin v Longford turkey shoot.

 A few more people? If it was in ulster the capacity would have been 2,500. There'll be over 15,000 in croke park. That's a lot of people being given the opportunity to see their county in an ulster final that wouldn't have been if not switched.

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« Reply #776 on: July 23, 2021, 11:34:58 AM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

There's also plenty of balloons running up and down the country 'supporting' their county, who wouldn't lift a finger to help their local club.

You know the type - young fella always has the most up to date strip, been at every McKenna Cup match since the big snow of 47 but the only players he could name on the club team are the 2 boys playing for the county.

I know who I'd rather give a ticket to.

What about the club members who never go to a county game? Have they any more right to a county ticket than a predominantly county supporter?

I know of lots of people who donít really have much association with their local club, for a number of reasons. A lot of clubs are clannish, two or three families running the show, looking after themselves. Itís hard to feel involved if you werenít a top player or donít come from a local footballing dynasty. Or maybe your kids donít play, so youíre less likely to stay involved.

Firstly, I'd always prioritise the members of the association over the non-members.

Lets face it - a county match is a nice day out, but it's not exactly work and it does little to help the association other than the price of the ticket (which in our example is a moot point - as the tickets will be sold anyway).

Someone who coaches the kids teams, washes the jerseys, turns up at club fundraisers, takes a job on the committee etc is IMO far more crucial to the GAA than some Nigel who only follows the county team

And should be treated as such when tickets are being allocated - no matter how many times said Nigel has seen the county team play this year

So there should be a pecking order when it comes to AI tickets?

One club member who helps out with the u-10ís is more entitled to a ticket than one who cuts the grass? Surely contributing to the club via membership or lotto is important too, even if they donít participate in club activities as such. Not everyone has the time, knowledge or experience  to coach or sit as secretary/treasurer etc.

Yes, there absolutely should.

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« Reply #777 on: July 23, 2021, 11:38:48 AM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

There's also plenty of balloons running up and down the country 'supporting' their county, who wouldn't lift a finger to help their local club.

You know the type - young fella always has the most up to date strip, been at every McKenna Cup match since the big snow of 47 but the only players he could name on the club team are the 2 boys playing for the county.

I know who I'd rather give a ticket to.

What about the club members who never go to a county game? Have they any more right to a county ticket than a predominantly county supporter?

I know of lots of people who donít really have much association with their local club, for a number of reasons. A lot of clubs are clannish, two or three families running the show, looking after themselves. Itís hard to feel involved if you werenít a top player or donít come from a local footballing dynasty. Or maybe your kids donít play, so youíre less likely to stay involved.

Firstly, I'd always prioritise the members of the association over the non-members.

Lets face it - a county match is a nice day out, but it's not exactly work and it does little to help the association other than the price of the ticket (which in our example is a moot point - as the tickets will be sold anyway).

Someone who coaches the kids teams, washes the jerseys, turns up at club fundraisers, takes a job on the committee etc is IMO far more crucial to the GAA than some Nigel who only follows the county team

And should be treated as such when tickets are being allocated - no matter how many times said Nigel has seen the county team play this year

So there should be a pecking order when it comes to AI tickets?

One club member who helps out with the u-10ís is more entitled to a ticket than one who cuts the grass? Surely contributing to the club via membership or lotto is important too, even if they donít participate in club activities as such. Not everyone has the time, knowledge or experience  to coach or sit as secretary/treasurer etc.

Also, you do have the time.  You have exactly the same amount of time available as everyone else.

You choose not to allot that time to actively participating in the GAA.

So the GAA chooses not to allot you a ticket for big games.

Couldn't be fairer.

How could you make a case for the opposite?

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« Reply #778 on: July 23, 2021, 11:44:23 AM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

There's also plenty of balloons running up and down the country 'supporting' their county, who wouldn't lift a finger to help their local club.

You know the type - young fella always has the most up to date strip, been at every McKenna Cup match since the big snow of 47 but the only players he could name on the club team are the 2 boys playing for the county.

I know who I'd rather give a ticket to.

What about the club members who never go to a county game? Have they any more right to a county ticket than a predominantly county supporter?

I know of lots of people who donít really have much association with their local club, for a number of reasons. A lot of clubs are clannish, two or three families running the show, looking after themselves. Itís hard to feel involved if you werenít a top player or donít come from a local footballing dynasty. Or maybe your kids donít play, so youíre less likely to stay involved.

Firstly, I'd always prioritise the members of the association over the non-members.

Lets face it - a county match is a nice day out, but it's not exactly work and it does little to help the association other than the price of the ticket (which in our example is a moot point - as the tickets will be sold anyway).

Someone who coaches the kids teams, washes the jerseys, turns up at club fundraisers, takes a job on the committee etc is IMO far more crucial to the GAA than some Nigel who only follows the county team

And should be treated as such when tickets are being allocated - no matter how many times said Nigel has seen the county team play this year

So there should be a pecking order when it comes to AI tickets?

One club member who helps out with the u-10ís is more entitled to a ticket than one who cuts the grass? Surely contributing to the club via membership or lotto is important too, even if they donít participate in club activities as such. Not everyone has the time, knowledge or experience  to coach or sit as secretary/treasurer etc.

Yes, there absolutely should.

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I can't speak for any other county, but within Derry for example, I don't know of any of these Nigels well definitely not in the last few years. Take the last few years, games away down the country in Div 3 / 4. Derry might have had 20 max supporters. Not a single one of them would be the type of county supporter you seem to be fixated on. Each and everyone would be club men. Having ago at people for supporting their county the length and breadth of the country (especially a county like Derry when so many abandoned the county men in Div 3 and 4) is bizarre

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Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« Reply #779 on: July 23, 2021, 11:48:13 AM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

There's also plenty of balloons running up and down the country 'supporting' their county, who wouldn't lift a finger to help their local club.

You know the type - young fella always has the most up to date strip, been at every McKenna Cup match since the big snow of 47 but the only players he could name on the club team are the 2 boys playing for the county.

I know who I'd rather give a ticket to.

What about the club members who never go to a county game? Have they any more right to a county ticket than a predominantly county supporter?

I know of lots of people who donít really have much association with their local club, for a number of reasons. A lot of clubs are clannish, two or three families running the show, looking after themselves. Itís hard to feel involved if you werenít a top player or donít come from a local footballing dynasty. Or maybe your kids donít play, so youíre less likely to stay involved.

Firstly, I'd always prioritise the members of the association over the non-members.

Lets face it - a county match is a nice day out, but it's not exactly work and it does little to help the association other than the price of the ticket (which in our example is a moot point - as the tickets will be sold anyway).

Someone who coaches the kids teams, washes the jerseys, turns up at club fundraisers, takes a job on the committee etc is IMO far more crucial to the GAA than some Nigel who only follows the county team

And should be treated as such when tickets are being allocated - no matter how many times said Nigel has seen the county team play this year

So there should be a pecking order when it comes to AI tickets?

One club member who helps out with the u-10ís is more entitled to a ticket than one who cuts the grass? Surely contributing to the club via membership or lotto is important too, even if they donít participate in club activities as such. Not everyone has the time, knowledge or experience  to coach or sit as secretary/treasurer etc.

Yes, there absolutely should.

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I can't speak for any other county, but within Derry for example, I don't know of any of these Nigels well definitely not in the last few years. Take the last few years, games away down the country in Div 3 / 4. Derry might have had 20 max supporters. Not a single one of them would be the type of county supporter you seem to be fixated on. Each and everyone would be club men. Having ago at people for supporting their county the length and breadth of the country (especially a county like Derry when so many abandoned the county men in Div 3 and 4) is bizarre

You are making no sense.

You said yourself that none of the supporters who followed Derry are the type I was talking about.

So how am I having a go at them???

Weird.