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She's an embarrassment. 'England', 'The Ukraine'. One of the basics of being President is knowing the correct name of nations.
'Warmongering' by the west is the problem in her tiny mind.

https://x.com/TonightVMTV/status/1894514104225689679

Fair enough - that's your opinion an you are obviously entitled to it

But don't try to back it up by telling blatant lies, it doesn't do much in terms of bringing other round to your way of thinking

And FWIW - personally I think she's bang on.  Warmongering by the West IS one of the biggest issues of our time and is the cause of many of the issues directly affecting Ireland

Putin literally marched into Ukraine to take it over and absorb it into Russia. Talking points about 'NATO', 'The West', 'warmongering' are just a distraction.
Connolly refused to applaud Zelensky when he addressed the Dail, along with some other crackpots, which shows how far down a rabbit hole she has gone.

Fair enough, again - your opinion and you're entitled to it

But when the first defence of it involves a blatant lie, I'm entitled to believe that it's an opinion grounded in very little

But it's all moot - you'll be voting and I wont

What 'blatant lie' are you referring to?

That she voted against sanctions on Russia

She's an embarrassment. 'England', 'The Ukraine'. One of the basics of being President is knowing the correct name of nations.
'Warmongering' by the west is the problem in her tiny mind.

https://x.com/TonightVMTV/status/1894514104225689679

Fair enough - that's your opinion an you are obviously entitled to it

But don't try to back it up by telling blatant lies, it doesn't do much in terms of bringing other round to your way of thinking

And FWIW - personally I think she's bang on.  Warmongering by the West IS one of the biggest issues of our time and is the cause of many of the issues directly affecting Ireland

Putin literally marched into Ukraine to take it over and absorb it into Russia. Talking points about 'NATO', 'The West', 'warmongering' are just a distraction.
Connolly refused to applaud Zelensky when he addressed the Dail, along with some other crackpots, which shows how far down a rabbit hole she has gone.

Fair enough, again - your opinion and you're entitled to it

But when the first defence of it involves a blatant lie, I'm entitled to believe that it's an opinion grounded in very little

But it's all moot - you'll be voting and I wont

She's an embarrassment. 'England', 'The Ukraine'. One of the basics of being President is knowing the correct name of nations.
'Warmongering' by the west is the problem in her tiny mind.

https://x.com/TonightVMTV/status/1894514104225689679

Fair enough - that's your opinion an you are obviously entitled to it

But don't try to back it up by telling blatant lies, it doesn't do much in terms of bringing other round to your way of thinking

And FWIW - personally I think she's bang on.  Warmongering by the West IS one of the biggest issues of our time and is the cause of many of the issues directly affecting Ireland

Moscow Mick said he wouldn't run if Catherine Connolly was running. That is another warning about how unsuitable Connolly is. She's another Putin and Assad mouthpiece.**

**citation needed

She votes against aid for Ukraine, she votes against sanctions on Russia, she calls Ukraine "The Ukraine" which is the tankie way of denying it's an independent country in it's own right.
What more evidence do you want to see the colour of her stripes?

Ah come on now.

1.  She voted against MILITARY aid, on the grounds of our neutrality and her consistently non-militaristic stance.  Which is an eminently reasonable position.

2.  She has NEVER voted against sanctions on Russia.  This is just a complete lie.

So we are left with her calling it 'The Ukraine'.  As being the entire basis for you describing her as a 'Putin and Assad mouthpiece'?

Moscow Mick said he wouldn't run if Catherine Connolly was running. That is another warning about how unsuitable Connolly is. She's another Putin and Assad mouthpiece.**

**citation needed

Moscow Mick said he wouldn't run if Catherine Connolly was running. That is another warning about how unsuitable Connolly is. She's another Putin and Assad mouthpiece.

She is quite popular around Galway still. I don't see her being a serious contender for president ever though.

Being a Nordie, I unfortunately haven't got a vote

(you might say that's lucky)

But Catherine Connolly would get my vote EVERY TIME out of the current list of contenders

Evidently for you the County game is the be all and end all and that's fine, but for a lot of us involved with clubs up and down the country the split season is a godsend and guess what, the intercounty players are also on for the split season as they can plan their lives around it with a degree of certainty.

If anything traditionally the Munster championship was straight knock out as was the entire intercounty championships, do we revert back to that?
And it also can't be about money as the Munster Council have lost out on a huge payday if there was a replay down in Cork!
I understand your dislike for the penalty shootout, not overly keen on it myself, but it's for the greater good unless you're a lazy journalist.

If there's a bit of fine tuning to have the AI the later in July, I could live with that but we can't be going back to AI's in September which in turn push club hurling even further into the depths of winter and into the following year.

There could be a 4 week break in hurling and football in July to start club games and the all Ireland series to start in August.

Lol - you clearly haven't thought this through

Comment by Jarlath in Westport last night

" Saturday evening, we had the DUP sports minister Gordon Lyons in the Athletic Grounds watching our game.

"He couldn't get over firstly the crowd, it was packed, secondly the atmosphere, thirdly the fact no one was segregated, the fourth thing he said was I'm looking around at half-time, it is all respectable people who go to these games. That is what the GAA is."

Gordy must have missed the riot police 

  

That's some rant.  With a rage like that you'd fit in well in elite cafe-chair throwing hooligan circles

The 2 incidents were in the last 10 months - thereby rendering your oft repeated assertion that 'soccer has fixed it' as utter nonsense

What's also nonsense is that I think there's no discussion to be had.  Basic comprehension fail on your part.  I suspect the rage is the issue here

What I objected to is the hyperbolic crap - your first post on the issue mentioned riot cops     
 - and you then went on to outline how the problems in the GAA are worse than soccer in this regard.  Why don't you ask some of the riot cops on duty at the next big game as I, on the other hand, won't be able to canvass opinion in this way

Anyway, having foolishly let myself get drawn into this debate (for the second time) with you I realise that I should lend exactly zero weight to your opinion here

Away outside and enjoy the sunshine - do try to resist the urge to throw the garden furniture

Not clever enough to do the point by point quoting carry on


1.
You clearly don't know what a 'straw man' argument means

2.
Your basic premise is that 'soccer has it sorted' whereas the GAA has a problem

I show numerous incidents still ongoing in soccer (even with the massive policing presence, segregation etc etc at any game which could be remotely contentious) - most of a more serious nature than the GAA incidents

You still bleat that soccer has it sorted

So here's the thing - if one isn't a problem, then neither is the other

If your position is that both have a problem, then the soccer lads need to be increasing policing yet further to stop the scum from scrapping as the evidence presented shows that they clearly don't have it fixed

Your inconsistency on this affirms your shit stirring motives

3.
It obviously grates you massively that the GAA can stage massive games and sustain intense rivalries by-and-large without the hooliganism

Whereas your groundball mates reach for the knuckledusters for every derby fixture

And no amount of hyperbole from you here is going to convince anyone that an equivalence exists between the 2 sets of fans

4.
How this will play out

You'll say that the GAA lads are putting their heads in the sand regarding a supposedly huge issue - and I'll point you to my first post on the topic.  You'll say that the GAA need to go further and I (and anyone else without an agenda) will say you're just plain wrong.  You'll disagree

That's a situation I'm happy with

And I'll be happy in the knowledge that I can attend any big GAA fixture this summer without worrying for my safety if I happen to wander into the 'wrong' area (NB - these don't exist at GAA games - no matter what team's shirt you're wearing)

You won't be able to say the same for the flare and flick knife brigade

[There are no scraps anymore.]

At the weekend there we seen fights in Clones ad fights on the Hill. What can we do to stop young ones congregating to matches full of Drink and drugs acting like soccer hooligans.

What soccer did to stop it happening there.

Arrests and bans. Expulsion from the association if members.

Is the will there to admit there is a problem and have scenes of riot cops snatching folk from games?

Come on is the problem really that big. Take the weekend if you were to replicate it with England there would be carnage. No segregation in a soccer ground. We really put ourselves down in this country. Hooliganism in England is organised. Do you think the lads fighting yesterday left home with the intent to get involved in a public scrap?

Don't feed the troll lads.

Riot cops   

There could be an issue if not stamped on quickly though - but all this would take is McGeeney and McGuinness (or a couple of big name players) to do a public interview calling out the knobheads for acting like knobheads

The immediate, and tedious, analogy to soccer was made. Soccer, at least in the FAI area, stopped hooliganism. There are no scraps anymore. Even Rovers and Bohs passes off peacefully these days. Because they took the gloves off.

Even a simple thing like searches on entry. If you know that having a bottle of hooch on you will stop you getting into the game, you won't try and smuggle it in.

If you throw slaps on a crowded terrace it's the POU heavy boys you deal with.

If you bought your ticket through a club you are banned for a period and the club punished.

But are we there? Will the GAA allow the Garda into the solution like soccer did? We all know the answer to that.

Lol at the bit in bold

By 'any more' - do you mean the past 10 months?    

https://www.donegaldaily.com/2024/07/13/national-three-arrested-after-football-match-brawl/

The GAA won't bring the Garda in because they don't need to

No matter how much the soccer thugs would will it

STFU clown

Fair enough. You went back a year and found an incident. An incident involving arrests and bans. Which is my point.

Dundalk 'didn't need' to bring the Gardai into it. But they did. And as I said, there is still a cute hoor, boys will be boys attitude to violence in the GAA. Sneering at soccer when there is a valid argument we are worse is infantile

'Worse' says the clown

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/national-news/1618761/teen-arrested-as-massive-brawl-between-football-fans-spills-on-to-major-dublin-road.html

(I can keep going if you want me to)

Please do. Because every one of those stories has the word 'arrest'. Because my point remains. They have no tolerance. You do.

We've had this debate before and I see you still haven't learned your lesson

We all know why these stories have the word arrest

Because every bloody game involves a huge garda operation c/w fan segregation / searches / pub opening hour restrictions / riot cops etc etc.

All to keep the scum from battering the heads off each other.

And, with all that, they STILL can't manage to stop soccer thugs from being soccer thugs.

STILL they find a way to engage in constant mass brawls - because it's what they came for

In the GAA that simply doesn't happen - and much as it pains you, massive garda operations just aren't necessary

Rival fans congregate in pubs beforehand TOGETHER and sit in the stands beside each other

There's an odd incident (which there will be when you mix testosterone, drink/drugs and sporting rivalry)

Then clowns like yourself pounce upon it and start with the straw man arguments

And just to finish off - here's a cracker from 2018 in the Dublin SCHOOLBOY leagues where they had to abandon seven games in six weeks due to brawls, quite a few of which involved adults striking children

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/herald/players-as-young-as-11-caught-up-in-violence/37496333.html

'Worse' he says 

Now please stop making a fool of yourself

[There are no scraps anymore.]

At the weekend there we seen fights in Clones ad fights on the Hill. What can we do to stop young ones congregating to matches full of Drink and drugs acting like soccer hooligans.

What soccer did to stop it happening there.

Arrests and bans. Expulsion from the association if members.

Is the will there to admit there is a problem and have scenes of riot cops snatching folk from games?

Come on is the problem really that big. Take the weekend if you were to replicate it with England there would be carnage. No segregation in a soccer ground. We really put ourselves down in this country. Hooliganism in England is organised. Do you think the lads fighting yesterday left home with the intent to get involved in a public scrap?

Don't feed the troll lads.

Riot cops   

There could be an issue if not stamped on quickly though - but all this would take is McGeeney and McGuinness (or a couple of big name players) to do a public interview calling out the knobheads for acting like knobheads

The immediate, and tedious, analogy to soccer was made. Soccer, at least in the FAI area, stopped hooliganism. There are no scraps anymore. Even Rovers and Bohs passes off peacefully these days. Because they took the gloves off.

Even a simple thing like searches on entry. If you know that having a bottle of hooch on you will stop you getting into the game, you won't try and smuggle it in.

If you throw slaps on a crowded terrace it's the POU heavy boys you deal with.

If you bought your ticket through a club you are banned for a period and the club punished.

But are we there? Will the GAA allow the Garda into the solution like soccer did? We all know the answer to that.

Lol at the bit in bold

By 'any more' - do you mean the past 10 months?    

https://www.donegaldaily.com/2024/07/13/national-three-arrested-after-football-match-brawl/

The GAA won't bring the Garda in because they don't need to

No matter how much the soccer thugs would will it

STFU clown

Fair enough. You went back a year and found an incident. An incident involving arrests and bans. Which is my point.

Dundalk 'didn't need' to bring the Gardai into it. But they did. And as I said, there is still a cute hoor, boys will be boys attitude to violence in the GAA. Sneering at soccer when there is a valid argument we are worse is infantile

'Worse' says the clown

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/national-news/1618761/teen-arrested-as-massive-brawl-between-football-fans-spills-on-to-major-dublin-road.html

(I can keep going if you want me to)

[There are no scraps anymore.]

At the weekend there we seen fights in Clones ad fights on the Hill. What can we do to stop young ones congregating to matches full of Drink and drugs acting like soccer hooligans.

What soccer did to stop it happening there.

Arrests and bans. Expulsion from the association if members.

Is the will there to admit there is a problem and have scenes of riot cops snatching folk from games?

Come on is the problem really that big. Take the weekend if you were to replicate it with England there would be carnage. No segregation in a soccer ground. We really put ourselves down in this country. Hooliganism in England is organised. Do you think the lads fighting yesterday left home with the intent to get involved in a public scrap?

Don't feed the troll lads.

Riot cops   

There could be an issue if not stamped on quickly though - but all this would take is McGeeney and McGuinness (or a couple of big name players) to do a public interview calling out the knobheads for acting like knobheads

The immediate, and tedious, analogy to soccer was made. Soccer, at least in the FAI area, stopped hooliganism. There are no scraps anymore. Even Rovers and Bohs passes off peacefully these days. Because they took the gloves off.

Even a simple thing like searches on entry. If you know that having a bottle of hooch on you will stop you getting into the game, you won't try and smuggle it in.

If you throw slaps on a crowded terrace it's the POU heavy boys you deal with.

If you bought your ticket through a club you are banned for a period and the club punished.

But are we there? Will the GAA allow the Garda into the solution like soccer did? We all know the answer to that.

Lol at the bit in bold

By 'any more' - do you mean the past 10 months?    

https://www.donegaldaily.com/2024/07/13/national-three-arrested-after-football-match-brawl/

The GAA won't bring the Garda in because they don't need to

No matter how much the soccer thugs would will it

STFU clown

At the weekend there we seen fights in Clones ad fights on the Hill. What can we do to stop young ones congregating to matches full of Drink and drugs acting like soccer hooligans.

What soccer did to stop it happening there.

Arrests and bans. Expulsion from the association if members.

Is the will there to admit there is a problem and have scenes of riot cops snatching folk from games?

Come on is the problem really that big. Take the weekend if you were to replicate it with England there would be carnage. No segregation in a soccer ground. We really put ourselves down in this country. Hooliganism in England is organised. Do you think the lads fighting yesterday left home with the intent to get involved in a public scrap?

Don't feed the troll lads.

Riot cops   

There could be an issue if not stamped on quickly though - but all this would take is McGeeney and McGuinness (or a couple of big name players) to do a public interview calling out the knobheads for acting like knobheads

2 million people are being starved to death in gaza
Two nuclear powers are rattling sabres
There has been a trade deal concluded with the orange one and the UK
A new pope has been elected
The orange one is also sinking the USA deeper and deeper into lawlessness
etc
etc
etc


BBC News LEAD STORY... with live courtroom reporting

2 guys found guilty of cutting down a picturesque tree in Cumbria

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckg584y95vwt

What am I missing here?