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GAA Discussion / Re: Does Pat Spillane need apologise to Tyrone GAA?
« on: September 25, 2021, 11:46:20 AM »
spillane made the point poorly but it's very clear that the so-called crisis within the tyrone squad re covid was greatly exaggerated. we're supposed to believe that over half the squad had covid less than 3 weeks ago and then were out running around a pitch in an intense physical encounter for 90 minutes? it was obviously bs so they could get key personel fit for the match. the fault lies with the GAA for rescheduling the fixture. should never have happened. if they'd had 20 hamstring injuries, they would still have had to field a team. same should have applied here.

Yes, they called the bluff of the cash strapped GAA. And naturally won. It took balls and they pulled it off.

Yeah I'm sure there are many teams fearing a hamstring outbreak in the camp 🙄

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GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
« on: September 24, 2021, 10:01:18 PM »
What a surprise!! You could see this coming from a mile off as soon as Jack O’Connor threw his hat in the ring whilst still Kildare manager even though the Kerry job wasn’t available at that point. Whether Keane deserved another year is open for debate but he was treated shabbily by Kerry in the end and Jack O’Connor doesn’t come out of it very well either.

There was a pretence that the job was open for applications but the reality is that O’Connor had been sounded out in advance.

What's the logic in bringing back Jack. Hasn't he been there twice before. I would expect he wil be gunning for tyrone next year.

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
« on: September 17, 2021, 08:54:18 AM »
They play differently but Mcgeary and Harte to defense are a big change. Canavan a year older, McKenna a bit better, Mc curry playing more.

Tbh I agree on 2018. Maybe they would have done a bit better but Dublin still the best team for years.

Wouldn't be so sure. While they may not have won they would give it a good rattle if dooher and Co were the managers. Colm cavanagh even said himself once tyrone went 5-1 up within the first 15 mins they didn't know what to do as they hadn't planned to be leading.

What kind of managment is that when a team doesn't expect to be leading? Think harte came at that game with a negative mindset which fed into the players. Now the players are far more confident and have belief in their ability.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 16, 2021, 09:36:56 PM »
Does anyone know if you can watch the final back on sky online

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 16, 2021, 09:00:29 PM »
Getting a while feeling from listening to a few radio interviews and podcasts that McShane isn't the most popular member of the panel, at least not with a few lads especially Morgan.

Can't tell if it's more than a bit of good natured jibing or more deep seated.

Heard the Morgan interview. Who else has been saying it. Colm cavanagh said Morgan and mcshane were cutting lumps out of each after training

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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Under new new management
« on: September 16, 2021, 11:27:21 AM »
Said it before. Everyone is free to make their own decisions but you have to suffer the consequences of your actions. Unfortunately for these people the consequences were fatal but they were given a choice that many other people across the world never had.

Yes but their decisions can be fatal for other people too and that's not on.

Yeah that's a fair point but unfortunately some people don't think or care about others. Hopefully these stories will make others think twice about not getting it.

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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Under new new management
« on: September 16, 2021, 11:03:26 AM »
Said it before. Everyone is free to make their own decisions but you have to suffer the consequences of your actions. Unfortunately for these people the consequences were fatal but they were given a choice that many other people across the world never had.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Kerry - All-Ireland SF 2021
« on: September 15, 2021, 01:40:02 PM »
I think that only in time will we be able to properly judge the merit of this Tyrone side. At the start of the season I would have placed Donegal ahead of them and had them down in 5th nationally. The reality is that Donegal have regressed in the last 2 seasons but they have enough good players to reverse the slide. I would have doubts about their mental fortitude though as they seem to lack leaders outside of Murphy. Armagh would need to find a few decent defenders to get to the next level and win an ulster championship whilst Monaghan will still be hard to beat but I can’t see much scope for improvement with a few of their key players getting on in years. Derry may be a few years away from winning at provincial level but Gallagher has got them organised and they are on an upward curve.

Donegal are a myth as well. It's 7 years since they even played in an All-Ireland semi-final or final, in that time Tyrone have played in 2 finals and 5 semi-finals.

I agree. Years of hype that dongel could beat Dublin but have never made a semi final since 2014. Donegal had the beating of tyrone on many occasion but tyrone always outlasted them and regularly got into semi finals.

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
« on: September 13, 2021, 03:02:15 PM »
I watched it and in my assessment as a ref it was a penalty, not inside the box before ball was played no push, the lad was well on his way down before contact, clean off the ground, he should have been blacked carded also by going by your assessment of black cards. McGeary should have been yellow carded and penalty given either way, cynical foul going in on goal.

A charge means he’s lifting his feet into another player, this lad lost his balance stumbled into player

If you take your tinted glasses off you’ll be fine.

you must be a poor ref  :o

So it wasn’t a penalty?
Of course burns touched on the ground for the penalty, I don't think anyone is disputing that. Its maybe debatable for the push/square ball before that, but its 50/50, sometimes you get them, sometimes you don't.
Your assessment of the other incidents is bizarre tho.
Are you honestly telling me you think the Burns challenge for the free leading to the penalty was  black card, but the O'sea one wasn't?

 as for this
"McGeary should have been yellow carded and penalty given either way, cynical foul going in on goal. "
I don't know where to start......Im glad you don't referee in Tyrone anyway.

Before the non penalty call, McGeary was noted for a foul, 2 minutes later he or Harte depending on McQuillian, he fouled leading up to the 21 yard free, it was cynical, as player was in or on the 14 yard line in front of goal, that would be a minimum noting, since noted already it should have been a yellow, again depending on who mcquillian decided who fouled (Hartes contact was inside box) it could have been a penalty.

My view on the game was there was barely any refereeing incidents, could have been a few black cards but there was no Cavanagh style black cards

Bar the clear cut one on McCurry. Stop now you are embarrassing yourself

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
« on: September 13, 2021, 02:00:46 PM »
I watched it and in my assessment as a ref it was a penalty, not inside the box before ball was played no push, the lad was well on his way down before contact, clean off the ground, he should have been blacked carded also by going by your assessment of black cards. McGeary should have been yellow carded and penalty given either way, cynical foul going in on goal.

A charge means he’s lifting his feet into another player, this lad lost his balance stumbled into player

If you take your tinted glasses off you’ll be fine.

you must be a poor ref  :o

So it wasn’t a penalty?

Are you Joe Mcquillan by any chance. Wasnt a penalty as he went through a tyrone player to get the ball. I don't have any definition of a black card, I looked at the rules. Burns didn't pull down or leg trip anyone there he couldn't have been black carded.
Also the rule is the ball has to be in the square before the player can be, though as a ref you would have know that

A player may enter the opponents’ small rectangle:

DURING PLAY (FOOTBALL) - After the final play of the ball into the small rectangle

SET PLAY (FOOTBALL) - After the ball enters the small rectangle

HURLING - After the ball enters the small rectangle
 

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
« on: September 13, 2021, 01:33:17 PM »
Some thoughts following the game.

Some mayo fans need to dial down the expectation, business doing free coffees as they expected to win, fans saying tyrone are in for a tanking etc.

Never have and never will understand the hype around AOS. Fails to deliver on every big occasion.

Mcquillan again done tyrone no favours. Mayo 1st point should have been a free out, never seen a more obvious example of a player charging, ohora should have been black carded, AOS should have been black carded on 68 min as he took out mckernan who was running past him, Mcquillan was in full view. The penalty should have been a free out for a square ball then for a mayo player pushing a tyrone player in the back.

Those sorts of call could have costed tyrone, thankfully it didn't.

Overall tyrone were more composed and should have scored more.

Mayo need to drop AOS and get new management in.

First point was no free, he looked as if he lost his balance,head went down and the Tyrone defender enabled him to stay on his feet, there was no complaints from any Tyrone players at the time..

He could have given a penalty depending on who he thought fouled the Mayo lad at the end of the first half, McGeary or Harte fouled him, McGeary outside the box and Hartes contact was inside the box. McGeary should have got a yellow as it it was a goal chance opportunity and he'd been noted just before that tackle.

Burns took the player down before the penalty, could have been black. watch the penalty again, both players outside the box and he picked the ball clean up, no issues there as for O'Shea's black, behave shoulder to shoulder

Would suggest you watch it agian

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_0MVMs4nxx4

2min 34 seconds. Head down running through Petey. Charging.

49min 51 seconds mayo lad in square before ball played and  jumps right into back of tyrone player. Square ball and foul on tyrone player. Tyrone player picked ball off the ground after those 2 incidents. Where the hell did you see burns taking down a mayo player?

1 hour 19 second AOS shoulders mckernan off the ball. Shoulder to shoulder doesn't mean anything if its off the ball, it's still a foul. Black card or at least a yellow.

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
« on: September 13, 2021, 10:52:41 AM »
Horan should watch Groundhog day

https://youtu.be/GncQtURdcE4

I would be pissed off to be passed out on the roll of honour.
Tyrone didn't have an arse on their trousers in 1951
Now they are purring.

I wonder how many AI's Kerry and Dublin would have if 50%+ of their population was of an ingrained anti-Irish disposition and therefore not taking part in games, while the GAA fraternity of the day were on the defensive against a brutal regime intent on wiping out any semblance of Irish culture.

In another era Padraig Hampsey and any number of lads could have been caught up in the horrors of conflict and war. It makes the team getting to the 86 final so remarkable, Down's achievements of the 60s were off the scale in this context, and Crossmaglen too in the 90s noughties.

Continued political change in the north and integration of the wider populous in playing the games will only strengthen Tyrone's position going forward; 9/1 with the bookies to retain the title next year suggests they see this title as a flash in the pan, I'd suggest its the emerging of a powerhouse. At the present time Tyrone should be looking at 2-3 AI's per decade. Basically replicate Mayo's frequency of getting to the final but not shit the bed every time.

Nice to be team of the decade 2 out of 3 so far since the turn of the millennium ;)

Boylesports odds 2022

Dublin 11/8
Kerry 13/8
Mayo 13/2
Tyrone 10/1

I think the general consensus is that the jury is still out on the merit of this Tyrone team but I didn't think they would be quite that far down the pecking order.

It's mad to think kerry are far better favourites than tyrone. However I think normal service will resume next year with Dublin back as strong as ever. Nothing much has changed, they still receive majority of the funding, population is still there, talent pool and set up is still there. I expect dublin to win 4-5 of the AIs until to 2030.

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
« on: September 13, 2021, 10:45:46 AM »
Some thoughts following the game.

Some mayo fans need to dial down the expectation, business doing free coffees as they expected to win, fans saying tyrone are in for a tanking etc.

Never have and never will understand the hype around AOS. Fails to deliver on every big occasion.

Mcquillan again done tyrone no favours. Mayo 1st point should have been a free out, never seen a more obvious example of a player charging, ohora should have been black carded, AOS should have been black carded on 68 min as he took out mckernan who was running past him, Mcquillan was in full view. The penalty should have been a free out for a square ball then for a mayo player pushing a tyrone player in the back.

Those sorts of call could have costed tyrone, thankfully it didn't.

Overall tyrone were more composed and should have scored more.

Mayo need to drop AOS and get new management in.

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
« on: September 12, 2021, 12:34:32 PM »
Was there a meal etc after the match, if so where was it held?

Armagh City Hotel

Thanks. Usually its in the city west. Was it televised

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GAA Discussion / Re: AIF 2021 -- Maigh Eo vs Tír Eoghain
« on: September 12, 2021, 12:23:04 PM »
Was there a meal etc after the match, if so where was it held?

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