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Title: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 01, 2021, 05:34:03 PM
Well here we go again. Genuinely have a really good feeling about it this year. Joke to only have 24k in though.


Edit from Mod5 to correct the date, wouldn’t want anyone booking a hotel or travel for the wrong weekend.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 1st August)
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 01, 2021, 05:48:20 PM
It’s set up for Mayo to turn over the Dubs when you consider how below par Dessie Farrell’s charges have been this season.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 1st August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 01, 2021, 05:55:35 PM
Mayo -3 (8/1) is looking rather nice to me, or even just the 3/1 to win
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 1st August)
Post by: rodney trotter on August 01, 2021, 06:07:45 PM
It's probably where Cillian O Connor will be missed most. He had a very good first half last year in the All Ireland final.

Tommy Conroy is a good prospect,  whether he can step it up against Dublin
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 1st August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 01, 2021, 06:10:52 PM
Have a bad feeling waiting in the long grass comes the dublin we know not the dublin of the leinster championship 2021.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 1st August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 01, 2021, 07:09:04 PM
It looks that way all right larry. Hard to see past a Dublin win unfortunately, probably by about 5 or 6 points.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 1st August)
Post by: greatpoint on August 01, 2021, 07:18:32 PM
Well here we go again. Genuinely have a really good feeling about it this year. Joke to only have 24k in though.

Ye only have yourselves to blame.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 1st August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 01, 2021, 07:21:10 PM
Shane walsh had us destroyed till he got injured the last day , Keegan is snookered for pace . Conroy bossed midfield for the first half till he ran out of steam , fenton , mcarthy etc wont run out of juice . Diarmuid is really struggling for a while now , im not even sure he gets on teamsheet . Cillian missing is massive for this clash , where is Horan going to play aido , personally think he has to go 14 for the most part . id be concerned also at all the praise o hora got the last day , i thought he was beat a lot of the time and hes certainly open to moments of madness. Conroy was very quiet in last years final v dubs .

Mayo 1-12  Dublin 3-15
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 1st August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 01, 2021, 07:26:10 PM
Have a bad feeling waiting in the long grass comes the dublin we know not the dublin of the leinster championship 2021.

They don’t have the players they once had, the bench is completely gone and it doesn’t look a happy camp
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 1st August)
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on August 01, 2021, 07:57:46 PM
Have a bad feeling waiting in the long grass comes the dublin we know not the dublin of the leinster championship 2021.

They don’t have the players they once had, the bench is completely gone and it doesn’t look a happy camp

What makes you say that?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 01, 2021, 09:56:27 PM
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What makes you say that?

There was stuff knocking around about Cluxton and Dessie there for the last while. Maybe you were in self isolation or something.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 01, 2021, 10:12:26 PM
Ah, FFS Maigh Eo go deo! We'll effin' ate 'em.  :No point in playing the poor mouth. Mayo by half a dozen.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on August 01, 2021, 10:30:25 PM
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What makes you say that?

There was stuff knocking around about Cluxton and Dessie there for the last while. Maybe you were in self isolation or something.

 ;D

Lads on the pitch seemed happy enough.   Wouldn't know what to believe about Cluxton other than he's gone.  I was wondering whether Mayo4Sam was picking up on something else.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 01, 2021, 10:41:55 PM
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What makes you say that?

There was stuff knocking around about Cluxton and Dessie there for the last while. Maybe you were in self isolation or something.

 ;D

Lads on the pitch seemed happy enough.   Wouldn't know what to believe about Cluxton other than he's gone.  I was wondering whether Mayo4Sam was picking up on something else.

There are always lads unhappy on a panel. Guys not happy not to start, Lads not happy not to finish, Lads asked to play out of position, Lads who just don't like the Manager, Managers who just dont like a player. That's life!
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 01, 2021, 11:37:01 PM
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What makes you say that?

There was stuff knocking around about Cluxton and Dessie there for the last while. Maybe you were in self isolation or something.

 ;D

Lads on the pitch seemed happy enough.   Wouldn't know what to believe about Cluxton other than he's gone.  I was wondering whether Mayo4Sam was picking up on something else.

Rock didn’t look too happy today either
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: MayoBuck on August 02, 2021, 01:01:52 AM
Rock didn’t look too happy today either

Wasn't great body language from Rock sitting in the stands after being subbed. Probably reading too much into it however.

Any word on O'Hora's injury, did he end up fracturing a rib?Did John Small pick up another injury in the second half today? I missed what happened.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 02, 2021, 01:26:00 AM
Rock didn’t look too happy today either

Wasn't great body language from Rock sitting in the stands after being subbed. Probably reading too much into it however.

Any word on O'Hora's injury, did he end up fracturing a rib?Did John Small pick up another injury in the second half today? I missed what happened.

More than likely I suppose ya, but then again when after such a long period of dominance you bring in a new manager and things aren’t going as well they used to these issues crop up

The word I was hearing in croke park the last day is that it was a rib injury so he’d probably be strapped up and back in time for Dublin

I was wondering that myself, could’ve just been a case of giving Murchan minutes but he didn’t look right coming off
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 02, 2021, 07:19:08 AM
Really don't want to go through another Mayo match, its too stressful.

Mayo have a great shout imo, but nothing focuses the Dubs more than the sight of the Mayo Jersey.

Dublin have a lot of work to do over the next 2 weeks to get to Mayo's level  of intensity they bring to games.

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 02, 2021, 07:50:52 AM
Really don't want to go through another Mayo match, its too stressful.

Mayo have a great shout imo, but nothing focuses the Dubs more than the sight of the Mayo Jersey.

Dublin have a lot of work to do over the next 2 weeks to get to Mayo's level  of intensity they bring to games.

It was only one half of a game in reality.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: seafoid on August 02, 2021, 08:58:22 AM
Hard to believe this was 15 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGs-0u1E3uw
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Tubberman on August 02, 2021, 09:11:21 AM
Hard to believe this was 15 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGs-0u1E3uw

It was a completely different era in terms of Mayo teams consistentcy, conditioning etc, but it was an amazing day!
The drama and the noise were unbelievable.
Some of the Rossies who were there for their minor team even lost the run of themselves and were roaring on Mayo  ;D
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Rossfan on August 02, 2021, 09:52:32 AM
Some of us did indeed let ourselves down that day :-[
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Tubberman on August 02, 2021, 09:58:45 AM
Ah it was a great day for the west!
Normal hostilities resumed thereafter.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: seafoid on August 02, 2021, 10:26:44 AM
Some of us did indeed let ourselves down that day :-[

The Dubs project had already started by then.
It was only a few years later that total Leinster dominance was a reality.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 02, 2021, 12:33:07 PM
Really don't want to go through another Mayo match, its too stressful.

Mayo have a great shout imo, but nothing focuses the Dubs more than the sight of the Mayo Jersey.

Dublin have a lot of work to do over the next 2 weeks to get to Mayo's level  of intensity they bring to games.

And nothing focused Mayo more than the sight of a Dublin jersey
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 02, 2021, 02:20:29 PM
Some of us did indeed let ourselves down that day :-[

The Dubs project had already started by then.
It was only a few years later that total Leinster dominance was a reality.

5 years later 2011 was not only Dublins first All-Ireland since 1995 but also their first final appearance.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: dublin7 on August 02, 2021, 10:05:06 PM
Really don't want to go through another Mayo match, its too stressful.

Mayo have a great shout imo, but nothing focuses the Dubs more than the sight of the Mayo Jersey.

Dublin have a lot of work to do over the next 2 weeks to get to Mayo's level  of intensity they bring to games.

And nothing focused Mayo more than the sight of a Dublin jersey

I expect Mayo to finally end their Dublin hoodoo and win the semi final, however I then expect them to be be battered in the final by Kerry in yet another All Ireland defeat.

Despite this I think Dublin would give Kerry a better game in the final. Kerry wouldn't fear Mayo or Dublin, but they'd be alot more wary of the dubs
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: imtommygunn on August 02, 2021, 10:13:04 PM
Anyone would think the dubs were finished reading this. They don’t look the perfectly slick team that make zero mistakes any more but they probably make way less than the rest. I would love to see Mayo beat them but Mayo have a lot of very new players and this game is a massive step up for them. It’s still a massive ask for them.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 02, 2021, 11:11:13 PM
Really don't want to go through another Mayo match, its too stressful.

Mayo have a great shout imo, but nothing focuses the Dubs more than the sight of the Mayo Jersey.

Dublin have a lot of work to do over the next 2 weeks to get to Mayo's level  of intensity they bring to games.


And nothing focused Mayo more than the sight of a Dublin jersey

I expect Mayo to finally end their Dublin hoodoo and win the semi final, however I then expect them to be be battered in the final by Kerry in yet another All Ireland defeat.

Despite this I think Dublin would give Kerry a better game in the final. Kerry wouldn't fear Mayo or Dublin, but they'd be alot more wary of the dubs

That said, Kerry don’t quite have the mean streak over Mayo that they had 10 years ago, I wouldn’t expect any of those three teams to fear anyone
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 02, 2021, 11:14:35 PM
I know I’ve been saying it for ten years now, but this is definitely the year 😁😁

It’s very easy to become cynical following Mayo, but I’m going to stay positive while we’re still in with a shout
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 02, 2021, 11:45:55 PM
Jez, there is a lot getting carried away here. Many talking about Dublin's demise, Mayo quick re-emergence.

I've never heard so much written about a county like Mayo that has been propping up Dublin since 2013. Dublin must love this! Mayo ran Dublin close. Dublin hate playing Mayo. Dublin fear Mayo. Dublin respect Mayo. Only Mayo give Dublin a game. Blah de Blah! It has to be one of the most one sided rivalries where the perception is that both teams are equals.


It's amazing how rose tinted the glasses are for our own county giving us exaggerated hope. Mayo are moving in the right direction, but replacing the golden bunch of 2013-17 won't happen over night and maybe will never happen. Dublin still have the mainstay on the pitch to eek out another AI title. They are definitely still ahead of Mayo.



Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: MayoBuck on August 02, 2021, 11:57:46 PM
Jez, there is a lot getting carried away here. Many talking about Dublin's demise, Mayo quick re-emergence.

I've never heard so much written about a county like Mayo that has been propping up Dublin since 2013. Dublin must love this! Mayo ran Dublin close. Dublin hate playing Mayo. Dublin fear Mayo. Dublin respect Mayo. Only Mayo give Dublin a game. Blah de Blah! It has to be one of the most one sided rivalries where the perception is that both teams are equals.


It's amazing how rose tinted the glasses are for our own county giving us exaggerated hope. Mayo are moving in the right direction, but replacing the golden bunch of 2013-17 won't happen over night and maybe will never happen. Dublin still have the mainstay on the pitch to eek out another AI title. They are definitely still ahead of Mayo.

It's funny how perceptions are. We beat Galway by 6 points and the reaction was overwhelmingly positive. Dublin beat Kildare by 8 points and were never in any danger of losing yet they are stuttering and on the decline.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thewobbler on August 02, 2021, 11:58:38 PM
Watching Dublin lethargically go through the motions on Sunday I couldn’t help wondering if they’ve still got the hunger to match an eager, athletic team that will go at them full tilt. Which of course is Mayo. And we know that Dublin don’t have the bench to change direction if things aren’t right. And we know Durcan can silence Kilkenny, and even if he’s battered and bruised, Leroy will do a decent job on O’Callaghan. Or vice versa.

But I just can’t see it happening. I can’t see Mayo having the scoring power to hit Dublin got
the 22-23 points that’ll be needed, not without COC.

Oddly I do think that if Mayo do it, it’ll be like the rout they handed out to Donegal; with Dublin forced to come out and Mayo running at them for fun. But if it’s any way a tight game, Dublin will just suffocate the ball and keep Mayo at bay.

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 03, 2021, 12:05:19 AM
Jez, there is a lot getting carried away here. Many talking about Dublin's demise, Mayo quick re-emergence.

I've never heard so much written about a county like Mayo that has been propping up Dublin since 2013. Dublin must love this! Mayo ran Dublin close. Dublin hate playing Mayo. Dublin fear Mayo. Dublin respect Mayo. Only Mayo give Dublin a game. Blah de Blah! It has to be one of the most one sided rivalries where the perception is that both teams are equals.


It's amazing how rose tinted the glasses are for our own county giving us exaggerated hope. Mayo are moving in the right direction, but replacing the golden bunch of 2013-17 won't happen over night and maybe will never happen. Dublin still have the mainstay on the pitch to eek out another AI title. They are definitely still ahead of Mayo.

It's funny how perceptions are. We beat Galway by 6 points and the reaction was overwhelmingly positive. Dublin beat Kildare by 8 points and were never in any danger of losing yet they are stuttering and on the decline.

Dublin beat Kildare by 2-23 - 1-17 in 2017.

Dublin beat Kildare by 0-20 - 1-09 on Sunday

Was anybody saying Dublin were in decline in 2017?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: galwayman on August 03, 2021, 03:15:22 AM
Jez, there is a lot getting carried away here. Many talking about Dublin's demise, Mayo quick re-emergence.

I've never heard so much written about a county like Mayo that has been propping up Dublin since 2013. Dublin must love this! Mayo ran Dublin close. Dublin hate playing Mayo. Dublin fear Mayo. Dublin respect Mayo. Only Mayo give Dublin a game. Blah de Blah! It has to be one of the most one sided rivalries where the perception is that both teams are equals.


It's amazing how rose tinted the glasses are for our own county giving us exaggerated hope. Mayo are moving in the right direction, but replacing the golden bunch of 2013-17 won't happen over night and maybe will never happen. Dublin still have the mainstay on the pitch to eek out another AI title. They are definitely still ahead of Mayo.

It's funny how perceptions are. We beat Galway by 6 points and the reaction was overwhelmingly positive. Dublin beat Kildare by 8 points and were never in any danger of losing yet they are stuttering and on the decline.

Dublin beat Kildare by 2-23 - 1-17 in 2017.

Dublin beat Kildare by 0-20 - 1-09 on Sunday

Was anybody saying Dublin were in decline in 2017?
Ah now come on - compare the Dublin squad of 2017 with the one of today.
The 2017 version was clearly superior. Look at the bounce they received from the guys they were able to spring from the bench.
Connolly, McMenamin, Brogan, Flynn, Scully & Costello were the 6 subs used in the final.
The current squad is clearly weaker.
That’s not to say they aren’t capable of winning the AI mind - but there isn’t any doubt their squad is considerably weaker than it was.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 03, 2021, 09:17:02 AM
Really don't want to go through another Mayo match, its too stressful.

Mayo have a great shout imo, but nothing focuses the Dubs more than the sight of the Mayo Jersey.

Dublin have a lot of work to do over the next 2 weeks to get to Mayo's level  of intensity they bring to games.

And nothing focused Mayo more than the sight of a Dublin jersey


Very True. Personally I hate Mayo games. Heart cant take it, would rather play Kerry  ;D
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Tubberman on August 03, 2021, 09:55:28 AM
Really don't want to go through another Mayo match, its too stressful.

Mayo have a great shout imo, but nothing focuses the Dubs more than the sight of the Mayo Jersey.

Dublin have a lot of work to do over the next 2 weeks to get to Mayo's level  of intensity they bring to games.

And nothing focused Mayo more than the sight of a Dublin jersey


Very True. Personally I hate Mayo games. Heart cant take it, would rather play Kerry  ;D

In 2016 and 2017 that might have been the case, I doubt it still holds true.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tonto1888 on August 03, 2021, 10:17:22 AM
Really don't want to go through another Mayo match, its too stressful.

Mayo have a great shout imo, but nothing focuses the Dubs more than the sight of the Mayo Jersey.

Dublin have a lot of work to do over the next 2 weeks to get to Mayo's level  of intensity they bring to games.

And nothing focused Mayo more than the sight of a Dublin jersey

I expect Mayo to finally end their Dublin hoodoo and win the semi final, however I then expect them to be be battered in the final by Kerry in yet another All Ireland defeat.

Despite this I think Dublin would give Kerry a better game in the final. Kerry wouldn't fear Mayo or Dublin, but they'd be alot more wary of the dubs

Kerry have to beat Tyrone first
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 03, 2021, 12:53:30 PM
Jez, there is a lot getting carried away here. Many talking about Dublin's demise, Mayo quick re-emergence.

I've never heard so much written about a county like Mayo that has been propping up Dublin since 2013. Dublin must love this! Mayo ran Dublin close. Dublin hate playing Mayo. Dublin fear Mayo. Dublin respect Mayo. Only Mayo give Dublin a game. Blah de Blah! It has to be one of the most one sided rivalries where the perception is that both teams are equals.


It's amazing how rose tinted the glasses are for our own county giving us exaggerated hope. Mayo are moving in the right direction, but replacing the golden bunch of 2013-17 won't happen over night and maybe will never happen. Dublin still have the mainstay on the pitch to eek out another AI title. They are definitely still ahead of Mayo.

It's funny how perceptions are. We beat Galway by 6 points and the reaction was overwhelmingly positive. Dublin beat Kildare by 8 points and were never in any danger of losing yet they are stuttering and on the decline.

Dublin beat Kildare by 2-23 - 1-17 in 2017.

Dublin beat Kildare by 0-20 - 1-09 on Sunday

Was anybody saying Dublin were in decline in 2017?
Ah now come on - compare the Dublin squad of 2017 with the one of today.
The 2017 version was clearly superior. Look at the bounce they received from the guys they were able to spring from the bench.
Connolly, McMenamin, Brogan, Flynn, Scully & Costello were the 6 subs used in the final.
The current squad is clearly weaker.
That’s not to say they aren’t capable of winning the AI mind - but there isn’t any doubt their squad is considerably weaker than it was.

This is great opportunity to take out the Dubs, whether or not Mayo are good enough on the day remains to be seen.

Gone as you say is the strength in depth advantage that Dublin had over Mayo. In the terms of intensity, fitness, pace Mayo will match up very well with Dublin on August 14th. Dublins form both individually and collectively is not at their normal high level, people and pundits are waiting for them to click into gear simliar was the case in 2012.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 03, 2021, 01:06:11 PM
Dublin definitely not the team they were and they don’t have that same impact off the bench. A pity COC is out he’s some loss. Huge opportunity for Mayo, they definitely have the ability to beat Dublin
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 03, 2021, 01:10:47 PM
The most relevant form guide for this match is last years AI final. Dublin won the match by 5 points but the game was closely contested and very competitive for long spells and it was only in the last 15/20 minutes that Dublin managed to put some distance between themselves and Mayo. Howard and Mannion made a big difference off the bench whilst the Mayo subs did not have any impact at all. Mayo lost Paddy Durcan to injury at half time which was a huge loss to them in the second half. Mayo competed probably a lot better than I would have expected pre match given that they were a side in transition with so many new players.

Look at the trajectory of both sides since then. I think most people would be of the opinion that Mayo are better equipped this year than last to compete against Dublin. The big cloud is the injury to Cillian O'Connor who they will undoubtedly miss for his free kicks and leadership if nothing else. Dublin on the other hand do not have the same firepower to unleash from the bench as they did last year and have suffered with the loss of some key personnel since last years final. There are also unanswered questions around their levels of desire as they struggle to find the necessary challenges to keep them stimulated. Add in the ongoing fall out from the Cluxton situation and you could easily make a claim for a Mayo win. Yet there remains a lingering doubt. Can this current Mayo side really topple the greatest side in GAA history, I'm not so sure. Thirty one counties would love to see it but Dublin still look the most likely winner of this match.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 03, 2021, 02:11:48 PM
The most relevant form guide for this match is last years AI final. Dublin won the match by 5 points but the game was closely contested and very competitive for long spells and it was only in the last 15/20 minutes that Dublin managed to put some distance between themselves and Mayo. Howard and Mannion made a big difference off the bench whilst the Mayo subs did not have any impact at all. Mayo lost Paddy Durcan to injury at half time which was a huge loss to them in the second half. Mayo competed probably a lot better than I would have expected pre match given that they were a side in transition with so many new players.

Look at the trajectory of both sides since then. I think most people would be of the opinion that Mayo are better equipped this year than last to compete against Dublin. The big cloud is the injury to Cillian O'Connor who they will undoubtedly miss for his free kicks and leadership if nothing else. Dublin on the other hand do not have the same firepower to unleash from the bench as they did last year and have suffered with the loss of some key personnel since last years final. There are also unanswered questions around their levels of desire as they struggle to find the necessary challenges to keep them stimulated. Add in the ongoing fall out from the Cluxton situation and you could easily make a claim for a Mayo win. Yet there remains a lingering doubt. Can this current Mayo side really topple the greatest side in GAA history, I'm not so sure. Thirty one counties would love to see it but Dublin still look the most likely winner of this match.
That team and squad isn’t there anymore though.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: RedHand88 on August 03, 2021, 02:12:33 PM
Hard to believe this was 15 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGs-0u1E3uw

Dublin let slip a 7 point lead. That doesnt happen these days.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: rosnarun on August 03, 2021, 02:27:43 PM
I thought there were real signs of the old Dublin last Saturday .
Long Boring passages  with kildare not being able to get a tackle in and then an easy point at the end of  30 passes or so.
Horrible to watch it might as well be Soccer but Dublin are taking advantage of  referees more or less outlawing the tackle .
now if the rules were changed im sure Dublin would adapt along with them
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 03, 2021, 02:49:29 PM
The most relevant form guide for this match is last years AI final. Dublin won the match by 5 points but the game was closely contested and very competitive for long spells and it was only in the last 15/20 minutes that Dublin managed to put some distance between themselves and Mayo. Howard and Mannion made a big difference off the bench whilst the Mayo subs did not have any impact at all. Mayo lost Paddy Durcan to injury at half time which was a huge loss to them in the second half. Mayo competed probably a lot better than I would have expected pre match given that they were a side in transition with so many new players.

Look at the trajectory of both sides since then. I think most people would be of the opinion that Mayo are better equipped this year than last to compete against Dublin. The big cloud is the injury to Cillian O'Connor who they will undoubtedly miss for his free kicks and leadership if nothing else. Dublin on the other hand do not have the same firepower to unleash from the bench as they did last year and have suffered with the loss of some key personnel since last years final. There are also unanswered questions around their levels of desire as they struggle to find the necessary challenges to keep them stimulated. Add in the ongoing fall out from the Cluxton situation and you could easily make a claim for a Mayo win. Yet there remains a lingering doubt. Can this current Mayo side really topple the greatest side in GAA history, I'm not so sure. Thirty one counties would love to see it but Dublin still look the most likely winner of this match.
That team and squad isn’t there anymore though.

I wouldn't argue with that but it is still a huge psychological barrier for any side to overcome in the final minutes of a finely balanced game against Dublin. Kerry should have had them beaten when they led against 14 men in the drawn final of 2019 but there was an element of finishing line stage fright as Dublin dominated the ball in the last 5-10 minutes of that match. To beat Dublin any side will have to be better than them but also overcome that mental barrier. It would be very ironic if a relatively new Mayo side were the team to do it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 03, 2021, 03:10:29 PM
Mayo need to make sure that old habits die. Can't let in a couple of goals and be chasing the game from there on in. We need to see a second half performance from the Galway game for the full 70+ minutes if we are to overcome Dublin and it's very hard to see that happening.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 03, 2021, 04:19:02 PM
Mayo need to make sure that old habits die. Can't let in a couple of goals and be chasing the game from there on in. We need to see a second half performance from the Galway game for the full 70+ minutes if we are to overcome Dublin and it's very hard to see that happening.

We might as well stay at home so
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 03, 2021, 05:24:51 PM
Jez, there is a lot getting carried away here. Many talking about Dublin's demise, Mayo quick re-emergence.

I've never heard so much written about a county like Mayo that has been propping up Dublin since 2013. Dublin must love this! Mayo ran Dublin close. Dublin hate playing Mayo. Dublin fear Mayo. Dublin respect Mayo. Only Mayo give Dublin a game. Blah de Blah! It has to be one of the most one sided rivalries where the perception is that both teams are equals.


It's amazing how rose tinted the glasses are for our own county giving us exaggerated hope. Mayo are moving in the right direction, but replacing the golden bunch of 2013-17 won't happen over night and maybe will never happen. Dublin still have the mainstay on the pitch to eek out another AI title. They are definitely still ahead of Mayo.

It's funny how perceptions are. We beat Galway by 6 points and the reaction was overwhelmingly positive. Dublin beat Kildare by 8 points and were never in any danger of losing yet they are stuttering and on the decline.

Dublin beat Kildare by 2-23 - 1-17 in 2017.

Dublin beat Kildare by 0-20 - 1-09 on Sunday

Was anybody saying Dublin were in decline in 2017?
Ah now come on - compare the Dublin squad of 2017 with the one of today.
The 2017 version was clearly superior. Look at the bounce they received from the guys they were able to spring from the bench.
Connolly, McMenamin, Brogan, Flynn, Scully & Costello were the 6 subs used in the final.
The current squad is clearly weaker.
That’s not to say they aren’t capable of winning the AI mind - but there isn’t any doubt their squad is considerably weaker than it was.

The subs from that final in 2017 was:

Subs: B Brogan (0-05) for Rock (24, black card), S Carthy (0-01) for Scully (47), D Daly for McMahon (48), K McManamon for Andrews (51), D Byrne for O'Sullivan (58), B Howard (0-01) for Fenton (67).
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 03, 2021, 05:48:00 PM
Jez, there is a lot getting carried away here. Many talking about Dublin's demise, Mayo quick re-emergence.

I've never heard so much written about a county like Mayo that has been propping up Dublin since 2013. Dublin must love this! Mayo ran Dublin close. Dublin hate playing Mayo. Dublin fear Mayo. Dublin respect Mayo. Only Mayo give Dublin a game. Blah de Blah! It has to be one of the most one sided rivalries where the perception is that both teams are equals.


It's amazing how rose tinted the glasses are for our own county giving us exaggerated hope. Mayo are moving in the right direction, but replacing the golden bunch of 2013-17 won't happen over night and maybe will never happen. Dublin still have the mainstay on the pitch to eek out another AI title. They are definitely still ahead of Mayo.

It's funny how perceptions are. We beat Galway by 6 points and the reaction was overwhelmingly positive. Dublin beat Kildare by 8 points and were never in any danger of losing yet they are stuttering and on the decline.

Dublin beat Kildare by 2-23 - 1-17 in 2017.

Dublin beat Kildare by 0-20 - 1-09 on Sunday

Was anybody saying Dublin were in decline in 2017?
Ah now come on - compare the Dublin squad of 2017 with the one of today.
The 2017 version was clearly superior. Look at the bounce they received from the guys they were able to spring from the bench.
Connolly, McMenamin, Brogan, Flynn, Scully & Costello were the 6 subs used in the final.
The current squad is clearly weaker.
That’s not to say they aren’t capable of winning the AI mind - but there isn’t any doubt their squad is considerably weaker than it was.

The subs from that final in 2017 was:

Subs: B Brogan (0-05) for Rock (24, black card), S Carthy (0-01) for Scully (47), D Daly for McMahon (48), K McManamon for Andrews (51), D Byrne for O'Sullivan (58), B Howard (0-01) for Fenton (67).

Yes, clearly superior
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on August 03, 2021, 08:38:00 PM
Thirty one counties would love to see it but Dublin still look the most likely winner of this match.

I'm not so sure about that. I would say most neutrals want a good final more than anything and, whether we like it or not, Dublin v Kerry is a very natural final pairing. I think that's the final most people want to see and therefore they want Dublin and Kerry to win their semis.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 03, 2021, 08:49:37 PM
Thirty one counties would love to see it but Dublin still look the most likely winner of this match.

I'm not so sure about that. I would say most neutrals want a good final more than anything and, whether we like it or not, Dublin v Kerry is a very natural final pairing. I think that's the final most people want to see and therefore they want Dublin and Kerry to win their semis.
I highly doubt too many neutrals will ever back Dublin.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 03, 2021, 08:52:39 PM
Thirty one counties would love to see it but Dublin still look the most likely winner of this match.

I'm not so sure about that. I would say most neutrals want a good final more than anything and, whether we like it or not, Dublin v Kerry is a very natural final pairing. I think that's the final most people want to see and therefore they want Dublin and Kerry to win their semis.
I highly doubt too many neutrals will ever back Dublin.

A fair swathe of Connacht might.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 03, 2021, 08:55:18 PM
Thirty one counties would love to see it but Dublin still look the most likely winner of this match.

I'm not so sure about that. I would say most neutrals want a good final more than anything and, whether we like it or not, Dublin v Kerry is a very natural final pairing. I think that's the final most people want to see and therefore they want Dublin and Kerry to win their semis.
I highly doubt too many neutrals will ever back Dublin.

you should meet some of my rossie friends . 100% wont mayo to lose every time .
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 03, 2021, 09:07:21 PM
Thirty one counties would love to see it but Dublin still look the most likely winner of this match.

I'm not so sure about that. I would say most neutrals want a good final more than anything and, whether we like it or not, Dublin v Kerry is a very natural final pairing. I think that's the final most people want to see and therefore they want Dublin and Kerry to win their semis.
I highly doubt too many neutrals will ever back Dublin.

you should meet some of my rossie friends . 100% wont mayo to lose every time .

Would Roscommon be the most anti-Mayo?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 03, 2021, 09:11:53 PM
Thirty one counties would love to see it but Dublin still look the most likely winner of this match.

I'm not so sure about that. I would say most neutrals want a good final more than anything and, whether we like it or not, Dublin v Kerry is a very natural final pairing. I think that's the final most people want to see and therefore they want Dublin and Kerry to win their semis.
I highly doubt too many neutrals will ever back Dublin.

you should meet some of my rossie friends . 100% wont mayo to lose every time .
Well them boyos wouldnt really be neutral would they? That’s like saying an Armagh man is a neutral when Tyrone are playing ;)
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: galwayman on August 03, 2021, 11:28:51 PM
Jez, there is a lot getting carried away here. Many talking about Dublin's demise, Mayo quick re-emergence.

I've never heard so much written about a county like Mayo that has been propping up Dublin since 2013. Dublin must love this! Mayo ran Dublin close. Dublin hate playing Mayo. Dublin fear Mayo. Dublin respect Mayo. Only Mayo give Dublin a game. Blah de Blah! It has to be one of the most one sided rivalries where the perception is that both teams are equals.


It's amazing how rose tinted the glasses are for our own county giving us exaggerated hope. Mayo are moving in the right direction, but replacing the golden bunch of 2013-17 won't happen over night and maybe will never happen. Dublin still have the mainstay on the pitch to eek out another AI title. They are definitely still ahead of Mayo.

It's funny how perceptions are. We beat Galway by 6 points and the reaction was overwhelmingly positive. Dublin beat Kildare by 8 points and were never in any danger of losing yet they are stuttering and on the decline.

Dublin beat Kildare by 2-23 - 1-17 in 2017.

Dublin beat Kildare by 0-20 - 1-09 on Sunday

Was anybody saying Dublin were in decline in 2017?
Ah now come on - compare the Dublin squad of 2017 with the one of today.
The 2017 version was clearly superior. Look at the bounce they received from the guys they were able to spring from the bench.
Connolly, McMenamin, Brogan, Flynn, Scully & Costello were the 6 subs used in the final.
The current squad is clearly weaker.
That’s not to say they aren’t capable of winning the AI mind - but there isn’t any doubt their squad is considerably weaker than it was.

The subs from that final in 2017 was:

Subs: B Brogan (0-05) for Rock (24, black card), S Carthy (0-01) for Scully (47), D Daly for McMahon (48), K McManamon for Andrews (51), D Byrne for O'Sullivan (58), B Howard (0-01) for Fenton (67).
I was referring to the subs they were able to bring off the bench in the All Ireland final in 2017.
The guys they can bring on in 2021 won’t be anywhere near that standard.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 03, 2021, 11:55:42 PM
Apparently the Hill is going to be open?

How in the name of mental gymnastics does it make sense to only allow 24k but open the hill?

Going to be impossible to get tickets as it is, might as well just split the 24k between Dubs and sponsors…
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Crete Boom on August 04, 2021, 12:18:57 AM
Thirty one counties would love to see it but Dublin still look the most likely winner of this match.

I'm not so sure about that. I would say most neutrals want a good final more than anything and, whether we like it or not, Dublin v Kerry is a very natural final pairing. I think that's the final most people want to see and therefore they want Dublin and Kerry to win their semis.
I highly doubt too many neutrals will ever back Dublin.

you should meet some of my rossie friends . 100% wont mayo to lose every time .

Would Roscommon be the most anti-Mayo?
I would say Galway are the most anti-Mayo, Rossies and Sligo a close second behind them. Leitrim seem to save all their hate for the Rossies!! I would say out of the 5 Connacht counties Mayo would garner the least amount of support from the others when Connacht champions.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: maigheo on August 04, 2021, 01:46:46 AM
Jez, there is a lot getting carried away here. Many talking about Dublin's demise, Mayo quick re-emergence.

I've never heard so much written about a county like Mayo that has been propping up Dublin since 2013. Dublin must love this! Mayo ran Dublin close. Dublin hate playing Mayo. Dublin fear Mayo. Dublin respect Mayo. Only Mayo give Dublin a game. Blah de Blah! It has to be one of the most one sided rivalries where the perception is that both teams are equals.


It's amazing how rose tinted the glasses are for our own county giving us exaggerated hope. Mayo are moving in the right direction, but replacing the golden bunch of 2013-17 won't happen over night and maybe will never happen. Dublin still have the mainstay on the pitch to eek out another AI title. They are definitely still ahead of Mayo.

It's funny how perceptions are. We beat Galway by 6 points and the reaction was overwhelmingly positive. Dublin beat Kildare by 8 points and were never in any danger of losing yet they are stuttering and on the decline.

Dublin beat Kildare by 2-23 - 1-17 in 2017.

Dublin beat Kildare by 0-20 - 1-09 on Sunday

Was anybody saying Dublin were in decline in 2017?
Ah now come on - compare the Dublin squad of 2017 with the one of today.
The 2017 version was clearly superior. Look at the bounce they received from the guys they were able to spring from the bench.
Connolly, McMenamin, Brogan, Flynn, Scully & Costello were the 6 subs used in the final.
The current squad is clearly weaker.
That’s not to say they aren’t capable of winning the AI mind - but there isn’t any doubt their squad is considerably weaker than it was.

The subs from that final in 2017 was:

Subs: B Brogan (0-05) for Rock (24, black card), S Carthy (0-01) for Scully (47), D Daly for McMahon (48), K McManamon for Andrews (51), D Byrne for O'Sullivan (58), B Howard (0-01) for Fenton (67).
Not that it matters all that much but these are not the subs from the 2017 final
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2021, 05:57:48 AM
Tickets for this game are to be sold in pods of 2,3,4 or 5 again.

Apparently the Hill is going to be open?

How in the name of mental gymnastics does it make sense to only allow 24k but open the hill?

Going to be impossible to get tickets as it is, might as well just split the 24k between Dubs and sponsors…

Yes the Hill will be open. €15 of a difference in ticket price.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 04, 2021, 10:10:56 AM
Tickets for this game are to be sold in pods of 2,3,4 or 5 again.

Apparently the Hill is going to be open?

How in the name of mental gymnastics does it make sense to only allow 24k but open the hill?

Going to be impossible to get tickets as it is, might as well just split the 24k between Dubs and sponsors…

Yes the Hill will be open. €15 of a difference in ticket price.

35€ for seated tickets or another increase?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 04, 2021, 10:39:39 AM
Jez, there is a lot getting carried away here. Many talking about Dublin's demise, Mayo quick re-emergence.

I've never heard so much written about a county like Mayo that has been propping up Dublin since 2013. Dublin must love this! Mayo ran Dublin close. Dublin hate playing Mayo. Dublin fear Mayo. Dublin respect Mayo. Only Mayo give Dublin a game. Blah de Blah! It has to be one of the most one sided rivalries where the perception is that both teams are equals.


It's amazing how rose tinted the glasses are for our own county giving us exaggerated hope. Mayo are moving in the right direction, but replacing the golden bunch of 2013-17 won't happen over night and maybe will never happen. Dublin still have the mainstay on the pitch to eek out another AI title. They are definitely still ahead of Mayo.

It's funny how perceptions are. We beat Galway by 6 points and the reaction was overwhelmingly positive. Dublin beat Kildare by 8 points and were never in any danger of losing yet they are stuttering and on the decline.

Dublin beat Kildare by 2-23 - 1-17 in 2017.

Dublin beat Kildare by 0-20 - 1-09 on Sunday

Was anybody saying Dublin were in decline in 2017?
Ah now come on - compare the Dublin squad of 2017 with the one of today.
The 2017 version was clearly superior. Look at the bounce they received from the guys they were able to spring from the bench.
Connolly, McMenamin, Brogan, Flynn, Scully & Costello were the 6 subs used in the final.
The current squad is clearly weaker.
That’s not to say they aren’t capable of winning the AI mind - but there isn’t any doubt their squad is considerably weaker than it was.

The subs from that final in 2017 was:

Subs: B Brogan (0-05) for Rock (24, black card), S Carthy (0-01) for Scully (47), D Daly for McMahon (48), K McManamon for Andrews (51), D Byrne for O'Sullivan (58), B Howard (0-01) for Fenton (67).
Not that it matters all that much but these are not the subs from the 2017 final

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0716/890675-dublin-kildare-report/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0716/890675-dublin-kildare-report/)
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: fearsiuil on August 04, 2021, 10:41:57 AM
Tickets for this game are to be sold in pods of 2,3,4 or 5 again.

Apparently the Hill is going to be open?

How in the name of mental gymnastics does it make sense to only allow 24k but open the hill?

Going to be impossible to get tickets as it is, might as well just split the 24k between Dubs and sponsors…

Yes the Hill will be open. €15 of a difference in ticket price.

35€ for seated tickets or another increase?
€50 for a seat.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: fearsiuil on August 04, 2021, 10:46:20 AM
Thirty one counties would love to see it but Dublin still look the most likely winner of this match.

I'm not so sure about that. I would say most neutrals want a good final more than anything and, whether we like it or not, Dublin v Kerry is a very natural final pairing. I think that's the final most people want to see and therefore they want Dublin and Kerry to win their semis.
I highly doubt too many neutrals will ever back Dublin.

you should meet some of my rossie friends . 100% wont mayo to lose every time .

Would Roscommon be the most anti-Mayo?
I would say Galway are the most anti-Mayo, Rossies and Sligo a close second behind them. Leitrim seem to save all their hate for the Rossies!! I would say out of the 5 Connacht counties Mayo would garner the least amount of support from the others when Connacht champions.
Rossies defo least appreciated supporters! As the big 2 Galway and Mayo have biggest on field rivalry.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 04, 2021, 10:57:38 AM
Begin bowl out here bucks , slim to none I know but if anyone does have a spare come next week ,please let me know .
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 04, 2021, 11:10:18 AM
Tickets for this game are to be sold in pods of 2,3,4 or 5 again.

Apparently the Hill is going to be open?

How in the name of mental gymnastics does it make sense to only allow 24k but open the hill?

Going to be impossible to get tickets as it is, might as well just split the 24k between Dubs and sponsors…

Yes the Hill will be open. €15 of a difference in ticket price.

35€ for seated tickets or another increase?
€50 for a seat.
Ah now.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 04, 2021, 11:17:02 AM
I wouldn’t be too worried about ticket prices, not as if they’re going to give us any anyway
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 04, 2021, 12:33:08 PM
 ::)

Mayo notoriously get a large amount tickets v Dublin. Lots of of Mayo people in Dublin too, loads.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 04, 2021, 12:33:52 PM
::)

Mayo notoriously get a large amount tickets v Dublin. Lots of of Mayo people in Dublin too, loads.

Not with 24,000 capacity and the hill open!
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 04, 2021, 12:57:03 PM
::)

Mayo notoriously get a large amount tickets v Dublin. Lots of of Mayo people in Dublin too, loads.

Not with 24,000 capacity and the hill open!

Shall see. Maybe not, but blow ins or dignitaries, clubs then general sale.. The way it should be (semi and final)
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 04, 2021, 01:42:25 PM
::)

Mayo notoriously get a large amount tickets v Dublin. Lots of of Mayo people in Dublin too, loads.

Not with 24,000 capacity and the hill open!

Shall see. Maybe not, but blow ins or dignitaries, clubs then general sale.. The way it should be (semi and final)

At the very least they could’ve added the hill on top of the 24,000. Ridiculous allocation for a semi final, surely it could be at least 50% capacity. Wembley was opened up fully during the euros and we are further ahead in vaccination now! If they actually used the proof of vaccination/negative covid test they could open up 75-100%
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 04, 2021, 03:22:55 PM
Just seen the ladies game was added as a double header. Being told that there’s no extra attendance allowed. Leave aside the existing frustrating in relations to the men’s SF, that’s a serious disrespect to the women’s game.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: JoG2 on August 04, 2021, 05:02:21 PM
I wouldn’t be too worried about ticket prices, not as if they’re going to give us any anyway

I'm more a Mayo man ffs!  ;D
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 04, 2021, 05:14:57 PM
::)

Mayo notoriously get a large amount tickets v Dublin. Lots of of Mayo people in Dublin too, loads.

Not with 24,000 capacity and the hill open!

Shall see. Maybe not, but blow ins or dignitaries, clubs then general sale.. The way it should be (semi and final)

At the very least they could’ve added the hill on top of the 24,000. Ridiculous allocation for a semi final, surely it could be at least 50% capacity. Wembley was opened up fully during the euros and we are further ahead in vaccination now! If they actually used the proof of vaccination/negative covid test they could open up 75-100%

Croke park is 50 % the. Week after , beggars belief .
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 04, 2021, 11:51:32 PM
Just seen the ladies game was added as a double header.

Dublin Ladies get to have a game at home, and if they win sort out their on field bearings for the final.

Meanwhile Cork and Meath get to go to Tuam.  ;D

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 07, 2021, 12:04:13 PM
Quote
Dublin Ladies get to have a game at home, and if they win sort out their on field bearings for the final.

Meanwhile Cork and Meath get to go to Tuam


Fairly guaranteed they’ll roll out Kelly at half time next week as well to give the dubs a lift for the second half.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 07, 2021, 04:13:44 PM
Dont forget the rousing loud  as it can go  music as they emerge at ht . The blatant home advantage stuff is shocking . 
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 07, 2021, 06:05:19 PM
How exactly does it make sense that the hill is closed this weekend? I’m genuinely baffled.

So this weekend- 24,000 in three stands. No hill.

Next weekend- extra terrace, double header. No added capacity.

So they’ve essentially just cordoned a section of the capacity for Dublin fans?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Tubberman on August 07, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
How exactly does it make sense that the hill is closed this weekend? I’m genuinely baffled.

So this weekend- 24,000 in three stands. No hill.

Next weekend- extra terrace, double header. No added capacity.

So they’ve essentially just cordoned a section of the capacity for Dublin fans?

Hard to come to any other conclusion than it's done to suit the Dubs when it's not open today, and won't add any additional capacity for next week
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 07, 2021, 07:28:15 PM
The GAA doing a good job at ruining the Ladies AI championship as well as the mens.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 07, 2021, 07:35:31 PM
Don’t really know why one weeks semi final is set for five and the next week is 6. They’re usually fairly uniform.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 07, 2021, 07:37:51 PM
Can we organise a lorry load of bales for around 5pm next week on the m4.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 07, 2021, 07:39:27 PM
Can we organise a lorry load of bales for around 5pm next week on the m4.

That won’t disrupt the Dublin fans so no worry in terms of throw in
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 07, 2021, 09:39:12 PM
If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 07, 2021, 10:48:29 PM
Quote
If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)

We are just stating the facts.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 07, 2021, 11:03:39 PM
If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)

whingers is what the kerrys and dublins call people from less successful counties who try to fight their corner for a level playing field . Examples would include home advantage for dublin and the absolute farcical situation of Dublin also playing their home league games(croke park)  there also in recent times , since what 2008 ish ? I personally dont care how repetitive i sound on the subject i will keep repeating
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 07, 2021, 11:48:08 PM
Quote
If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)

We are just stating the facts.

Yis whinged a bit yourselves in fairness until Bertie syphoned of a million under the table each year to get yiz over the line.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 08, 2021, 02:25:52 AM
If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)

What part of the above commentary do you disagree with?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 08, 2021, 02:34:32 PM
Quote
If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)

We are just stating the facts.

Yis whinged a bit yourselves in fairness until Bertie syphoned of a million under the table each year to get yiz over the line.
They sure did!
If whingin' was an Olympic sport back then the bleedin' Dubs would all be in Tokyo right now.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: dublin7 on August 08, 2021, 02:45:47 PM
Quote
If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)

We are just stating the facts.

Yis whinged a bit yourselves in fairness until Bertie syphoned of a million under the table each year to get yiz over the line.
They sure did!
If whingin' was an Olympic sport back then the bleedin' Dubs would all be in Tokyo right now.
Shocking isn't it, reading all the moaning on this thread. Shame on the dubs. Don't they know how lucky they have it.

They do have some legitimate issues. For example there's a real chance Brian Fenton might actually lose a championship match this season.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 08, 2021, 06:58:55 PM
Quote
If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)

We are just stating the facts.

Yis whinged a bit yourselves in fairness until Bertie syphoned of a million under the table each year to get yiz over the line.
They sure did!
If whingin' was an Olympic sport back then the bleedin' Dubs would all be in Tokyo right now.
Shocking isn't it, reading all the moaning on this thread. Shame on the dubs. Don't they know how lucky they have it.

They do have some legitimate issues. For example there's a real chance Brian Fenton might actually lose a championship match this season.

Winning trophies with Dublin is like losing your virginity to a prostitute
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: armaghniac on August 09, 2021, 12:29:47 AM
Winning trophies with Dublin is like losing your virginity to a prostitute

As Woody Allen said, "Sex without love is an empty experience, but as empty experiences go it is one of the best."
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 09, 2021, 08:06:22 AM
If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)

whingers is what the kerrys and dublins call people from less successful counties who try to fight their corner for a level playing field . Examples would include home advantage for dublin and the absolute farcical situation of Dublin also playing their home league games(croke park)  there also in recent times , since what 2008 ish ? I personally dont care how repetitive i sound on the subject i will keep repeating
Keep going on about the half time music. That really needs more attention 😆😆😆
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 09, 2021, 09:00:20 AM
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If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)

We are just stating the facts.

Yis whinged a bit yourselves in fairness until Bertie syphoned of a million under the table each year to get yiz over the line.
They sure did!
If whingin' was an Olympic sport back then the bleedin' Dubs would all be in Tokyo right now.
Shocking isn't it, reading all the moaning on this thread. Shame on the dubs. Don't they know how lucky they have it.

They do have some legitimate issues. For example there's a real chance Brian Fenton might actually lose a championship match this season.

Winning trophies with Dublin is like losing your virginity to a prostitute

And this clown, the bitterness is real with this one, makes me feel happy inside. I love how Dublin's success affects the rest of the country, makes it all that be sweeter.

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 09, 2021, 11:04:27 AM
If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)

whingers is what the kerrys and dublins call people from less successful counties who try to fight their corner for a level playing field . Examples would include home advantage for dublin and the absolute farcical situation of Dublin also playing their home league games(croke park)  there also in recent times , since what 2008 ish ? I personally dont care how repetitive i sound on the subject i will keep repeating
Keep going on about the half time music. That really needs more attention 😆😆😆

Use of croke park as home venue was what I touched on there , dont think I mentioned the dub ht fanfare which is also farcical in the context of neutral venue
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 09, 2021, 01:35:31 PM
Dont forget the rousing loud  as it can go  music as they emerge at ht . The blatant home advantage stuff is shocking .
It is very funny that you believe this!

There’s someone in Croke Park who hires the volume of the music when the Dubs emerge for the second half of All Ireland semi finals or finals, and then lowers it again when Mayo emerge!

It’s a great explanation all the same for the Dubs third quarter surge 😃
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 09, 2021, 04:11:08 PM
The rumours of disharmony in the Dublin camp are interesting, in that there hasn’t really been similar rumours since Tommy Lyons or Tommy Carr’s days. Of course rumours doesn’t make it true, I don’t know one way or the other.

Dublin’s off the ball workrate is down this year in my opinion. Both in defence and attack. It's left our full back line looking more exposed than normal and left our attack looking a bit blunt with less off the shoulder runners breaking through defences. That might be a sign that, finally, the edge/hunger has drifted a little. Only natural really, but perhaps something we can switch back on now we’re at the business end.

Dublin played 3 corner forwards last time (Costello, Rock, Small). Not sure we can afford to do that against the athleticism of Mayo’s defence, so I could see one of them being dropped. Presumably Small. I'd be surprised if Murchan doesn't start in defence.

The pressure each team put on the opposition keeper will be a big factor. Can't imagine there'll be too many uncontested kickouts. Kildare and Meath gave Comerford a surprisingly easy ride in that regard.

I'd guess McLoughlin and McLaughlin would be the only two changes for Mayo, but Horan has been known to throw in the odd surprise.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 09, 2021, 04:26:14 PM
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If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)

We are just stating the facts.

Yis whinged a bit yourselves in fairness until Bertie syphoned of a million under the table each year to get yiz over the line.
They sure did!
If whingin' was an Olympic sport back then the bleedin' Dubs would all be in Tokyo right now.
Shocking isn't it, reading all the moaning on this thread. Shame on the dubs. Don't they know how lucky they have it.

They do have some legitimate issues. For example there's a real chance Brian Fenton might actually lose a championship match this season.

Winning trophies with Dublin is like losing your virginity to a prostitute

And this clown, the bitterness is real with this one, makes me feel happy inside. I love how Dublin's success affects the rest of the country, makes it all that be sweeter.

I get the impression that other than Dublin’s direct opponents in a semi/final, everyone else is no longer bothered, annoyed or surprised at Dublin’s success. The vast investment, home advantage, and everything else, well it’s helped ruin the championship. It’s like being annoyed at Amazon or Google for not paying any tax. They’re not the problem. And Dublin themselves aren’t the problem.

Each Dublin AI success means less and less as the years goes on. I’ve no doubt they’ll do 7 in a row. Probably even 11, 12, or 13 in a row (maybe with one loss), but by that time nobody will care. The inter county championship will be long dead.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Taylor on August 09, 2021, 04:33:49 PM
I have found myself watching less & less of Dublin this season because in every game the result is a foregone conclusion.

Now I will watch the semi final however I stuck on 5mins of the Kildare game and there was a number of Dublin players I had never heard of.

Are these new guys onto the panel & getting game time or have they always been knocking about but didnt get the chance previously?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 09, 2021, 04:36:16 PM
Is tickets on sale for this game yet? 
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 09, 2021, 05:10:59 PM
I have found myself watching less & less of Dublin this season because in every game the result is a foregone conclusion.

Now I will watch the semi final however I stuck on 5mins of the Kildare game and there was a number of Dublin players I had never heard of.

Are these new guys onto the panel & getting game time or have they always been knocking about but didnt get the chance previously?
Since Dessie took over from Jim Gavin, he's lost 3 starters from the 5-in-a-row team. Cluxton, McCaffrey and Mannion. Add to that an almost an entire bench has retired, such as MaAuley, Connolly, McManaman, O'Sullivan, Andrews, Daly, Lowndes. So Dessie is left with almost an entirely new bench (Philly still hanging around but not getting much game time).

Most of the new lads have been doing fine, nobody setting the house on fire. The Basquel brothers probably the most interesting. Key men in Ballyboden's All Ireland success, but only with the retirements have they started to get a look-in with the Dubs. Colm in particular look like he has the stuff. But generally the bench wouldnt be anywhere near as frightening as it used to be.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 09, 2021, 05:36:11 PM
Dont forget the rousing loud  as it can go  music as they emerge at ht . The blatant home advantage stuff is shocking .
It is very funny that you believe this!

There’s someone in Croke Park who hires the volume of the music when the Dubs emerge for the second half of All Ireland semi finals or finals, and then lowers it again when Mayo emerge!

It’s a great explanation all the same for the Dubs third quarter surge 😃

Well you have either not been to the games or you're tone deaf.  Meath only a few weeks ago ran with the same complaint . Forget debating whether its  advantages or not , that's ireelavent to the fact it happened and it's wrong on many levels.  Dublin ht fanfare should not be allowed
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 09, 2021, 07:06:05 PM
The home team is entitled to have who ever they want as half time entertainment. You don't have the Dubs complaining about half time entertainment when they play away from home.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: dublin7 on August 10, 2021, 05:28:20 AM
The home team is entitled to have who ever they want as half time entertainment. You don't have the Dubs complaining about half time entertainment when they play away from home.

What's all this half time entertainment business? Doesn't happen at dubs games. Is this some advantage Mayo get that Dublin don't? I'll have to email the administrators in Croke to demand half time entertainment is to provided at all dubs games in future.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 10, 2021, 07:49:59 AM
Dont forget the rousing loud  as it can go  music as they emerge at ht . The blatant home advantage stuff is shocking .
It is very funny that you believe this!

There’s someone in Croke Park who hires the volume of the music when the Dubs emerge for the second half of All Ireland semi finals or finals, and then lowers it again when Mayo emerge!

It’s a great explanation all the same for the Dubs third quarter surge 😃

Well you have either not been to the games or you're tone deaf.  Meath only a few weeks ago ran with the same complaint . Forget debating whether its  advantages or not , that's ireelavent to the fact it happened and it's wrong on many levels.  Dublin ht fanfare should not be allowed
Absolute nonsense Larry. Did even take a moment to think about it based on your own experience?
No idea what McEntee might have imagined, especially as his team won the 2nd half 1-7 to 0-5, but it never  ever happened in a Dublin Mayo game. As you full well know as I presume you’ve been to them all as well. It’s either one song from each county or random pop stuff.
Dublin do have many advantages. Stick to them for your complaints rather than moaning about conspiracy nonsense 
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Taylor on August 10, 2021, 08:11:56 AM
I have found myself watching less & less of Dublin this season because in every game the result is a foregone conclusion.

Now I will watch the semi final however I stuck on 5mins of the Kildare game and there was a number of Dublin players I had never heard of.

Are these new guys onto the panel & getting game time or have they always been knocking about but didnt get the chance previously?
Since Dessie took over from Jim Gavin, he's lost 3 starters from the 5-in-a-row team. Cluxton, McCaffrey and Mannion. Add to that an almost an entire bench has retired, such as MaAuley, Connolly, McManaman, O'Sullivan, Andrews, Daly, Lowndes. So Dessie is left with almost an entirely new bench (Philly still hanging around but not getting much game time).

Most of the new lads have been doing fine, nobody setting the house on fire. The Basquel brothers probably the most interesting. Key men in Ballyboden's All Ireland success, but only with the retirements have they started to get a look-in with the Dubs. Colm in particular look like he has the stuff. But generally the bench wouldnt be anywhere near as frightening as it used to be.

Have watched the Basquel's and they do look the real deal.

Normally in a Mayo v Dublin game the cavalry coming off the bench for the Dubs in the final stretch helps get them over the line.

However this Mayo team dont look to have the quality/player form of previous years so it may not even be that tight with 15mins to go
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 10, 2021, 08:32:18 AM
“ Of allocation of 24,000 tickets, approximately 18,000 were made available to the two counties, with the remaining 6,000 going to sponsors and corporate partners. Mayo clubs were offered approximately half of those 18,000 tickets to sell to their members over the last week.

The situation has been complicated somewhat by the double-header of games under the separate umbrellas of the GAA and the LGFA. No tickets were made available to any LGFA clubs in either Mayo or Dublin, despite the two counties contesting their semi-final as a curtain-raiser to the men’s game
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 10, 2021, 08:36:00 AM
That is nothing short of a disgrace
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 10, 2021, 08:44:10 AM
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If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)

We are just stating the facts.

Yis whinged a bit yourselves in fairness until Bertie syphoned of a million under the table each year to get yiz over the line.
They sure did!
If whingin' was an Olympic sport back then the bleedin' Dubs would all be in Tokyo right now.
Shocking isn't it, reading all the moaning on this thread. Shame on the dubs. Don't they know how lucky they have it.

They do have some legitimate issues. For example there's a real chance Brian Fenton might actually lose a championship match this season.

Winning trophies with Dublin is like losing your virginity to a prostitute

And this clown, the bitterness is real with this one, makes me feel happy inside. I love how Dublin's success affects the rest of the country, makes it all that be sweeter.

I get the impression that other than Dublin’s direct opponents in a semi/final, everyone else is no longer bothered, annoyed or surprised at Dublin’s success. The vast investment, home advantage, and everything else, well it’s helped ruin the championship. It’s like being annoyed at Amazon or Google for not paying any tax. They’re not the problem. And Dublin themselves aren’t the problem.

Each Dublin AI success means less and less as the years goes on. I’ve no doubt they’ll do 7 in a row. Probably even 11, 12, or 13 in a row (maybe with one loss), but by that time nobody will care. The inter county championship will be long dead.

Fair point, to everyone else you mean.. Not to the Dubs.

I remember i felt the same when Kilkenny won 4 in row. I was sick of them and hated them, its only years later, looking back, i appreciated what they achieved and how good they were..
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 10, 2021, 08:45:52 AM
That is nothing short of a disgrace

Yep, definitely a pub job now for myself, didnt get tickets through the club. Dublin v Mayo in the semi is always nearly a sell out, 9k each to clubs, no chance.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 10, 2021, 10:25:28 AM
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If Dublin don’t win Sam, I’d love to see Mayo do it. But my jaysis, their fans are some crowd of whingers (unlike the team)

We are just stating the facts.

Yis whinged a bit yourselves in fairness until Bertie syphoned of a million under the table each year to get yiz over the line.
They sure did!
If whingin' was an Olympic sport back then the bleedin' Dubs would all be in Tokyo right now.
Shocking isn't it, reading all the moaning on this thread. Shame on the dubs. Don't they know how lucky they have it.

They do have some legitimate issues. For example there's a real chance Brian Fenton might actually lose a championship match this season.

Winning trophies with Dublin is like losing your virginity to a prostitute

And this clown, the bitterness is real with this one, makes me feel happy inside. I love how Dublin's success affects the rest of the country, makes it all that be sweeter.

I get the impression that other than Dublin’s direct opponents in a semi/final, everyone else is no longer bothered, annoyed or surprised at Dublin’s success. The vast investment, home advantage, and everything else, well it’s helped ruin the championship. It’s like being annoyed at Amazon or Google for not paying any tax. They’re not the problem. And Dublin themselves aren’t the problem.

Each Dublin AI success means less and less as the years goes on. I’ve no doubt they’ll do 7 in a row. Probably even 11, 12, or 13 in a row (maybe with one loss), but by that time nobody will care. The inter county championship will be long dead.

Fair point, to everyone else you mean.. Not to the Dubs.

I remember i felt the same when Kilkenny won 4 in row. I was sick of them and hated them, its only years later, looking back, i appreciated what they achieved and how good they were..

But if it was the same team that just happened to come together, and won a lot over a few years (like Galway, Armagh, Donegal, Cork, Tyrone, Meath) before fading away, then yes you could appreciate that particular team. Even Kilkenny faded, although still challenging obviously. But this Dublin team is completely different to the team in 2011. Are there any survivors?

Watching Dublin now is like watching a car crash. You sort of pretend you don’t care but you want them to keep winning. Because if they do win 10, 11, 12 in a row, it will only then be obvious that the GAA created a monster, and the inequality of the funding will be so obvious. But also, the championship will be dead by then, and the football championship will take a generation to recover.

No disrespect to other teams, but the odd Dublin loss, and it’s... funding clearly isn’t the issue. Sure look at Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone, Donegal... they got their act together to win an AI. Everyone else needs to get up off their ass. Leitrim/Waterford/Sligo/Fermanagh , what the f**k is wrong with ye anyway? Get up off your holes, ye lazy hoors. What do you mean your senior team are buying their own training gear and  changing in a portacabin? That’s no excuse. You should be winning Sam’s.

Dublin fans are currently in a toxic relationship where everything in the  world is great. Once that relationship ends, your eyes will be opened, and you’ll think “what was I thinking?”
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 10, 2021, 10:39:12 AM
That is nothing short of a disgrace

Yep, definitely a pub job now for myself, didnt get tickets through the club. Dublin v Mayo in the semi is always nearly a sell out, 9k each to clubs, no chance.

Disgrace isn't the word. SIX FKIN THOUSAND to corporates? Is that similar to the hurling ones? Tyrone v Kerry?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 10, 2021, 10:49:53 AM
That is nothing short of a disgrace

Yep, definitely a pub job now for myself, didnt get tickets through the club. Dublin v Mayo in the semi is always nearly a sell out, 9k each to clubs, no chance.

Disgrace isn't the word. SIX FKIN THOUSAND to corporates? Is that similar to the hurling ones? Tyrone v Kerry?

25% of capacity. Outrageous.

Incredibly disrespectful not to allocate the women’s match any tickets as well
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 10, 2021, 10:59:57 AM
The home team is entitled to have who ever they want as half time entertainment. You don't have the Dubs complaining about half time entertainment when they play away from home.
That's interesting but are all games involving Dublin regarded as home games? What about semis and finals? Do Dublin "host" those games?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Keyser soze on August 10, 2021, 11:03:24 AM
Would LGFA clubs not all [or vast majority] be affiliated to existing GAA clubs and hence covered in the allocation?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 10, 2021, 11:10:54 AM
The home team is entitled to have who ever they want as half time entertainment. You don't have the Dubs complaining about half time entertainment when they play away from home.
That's interesting but are all games involving Dublin regarded as home games? What about semis and finals? Do Dublin "host" those games?
FFS Lar, you're actually taking that post seriously  ::)
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo Border on August 10, 2021, 11:21:06 AM
The home team is entitled to have who ever they want as half time entertainment. You don't have the Dubs complaining about half time entertainment when they play away from home.
That's interesting but are all games involving Dublin regarded as home games? What about semis and finals? Do Dublin "host" those games?
FFS Lar, you're actually taking that post seriously  ::)
Being Dublin's home ground means they have to sweep out the changing rooms after the match. Have you not seen the videos?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thejuice on August 10, 2021, 03:15:18 PM
Don’t recall anyone in the Meath camp mentioning the music. As hound said, we were way better in the second half anyway. Hopefully the Dubs do it again next time then and at start of the match if that’s the effect.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 10, 2021, 03:18:26 PM
Not sure if you missed the ticketmaster flashsale just there, got pod of 3, think all gone now
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 10, 2021, 03:50:30 PM
What if you received the email for success of getting the tickets, but no follow on link? Asking for a friend.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 10, 2021, 03:58:22 PM
The home team is entitled to have who ever they want as half time entertainment. You don't have the Dubs complaining about half time entertainment when they play away from home.
That's interesting but are all games involving Dublin regarded as home games? What about semis and finals? Do Dublin "host" those games?
FFS Lar, you're actually taking that post seriously  ::)
Who said I was? ;D
95% of the time on Mayo Dublin threads I'm pisstaking as the vast majority of posters from both sides doesn't listen to the other side . A case of keep 'er lit.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 10, 2021, 04:04:43 PM
The home team is entitled to have who ever they want as half time entertainment. You don't have the Dubs complaining about half time entertainment when they play away from home.
That's interesting but are all games involving Dublin regarded as home games? What about semis and finals? Do Dublin "host" those games?
FFS Lar, you're actually taking that post seriously  ::)
Being Dublin's home ground means they have to sweep out the changing rooms after the match. Have you not seen the videos?
No, but I believe Des Cahill.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 10, 2021, 06:48:03 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40346108.html%3ftype=amp

Meath winning second half again is irrelevant,  Jim gavin's planes , Aslan junkie fella, imelda may , I could go on and on , it has nothing to do with the football being played . I am a gaa member,  croke park  is hq , take your bias Dublin shite out of it . Sin e .

As for the Meath poster there in with his tuppence in typical alpha Meath bravado . If ye woke the fook up and took them to navan it would be ye that would be contesting sat semi final but ye keep believing it is in the interest of fairness and the like of the faux doctor boylan . I'm sure ye will eventually beat them , fools . Bow to your master's
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 10, 2021, 09:29:08 PM
What are the chances of Kellie Harrington getting a rousing introduction at some point on Saturday?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: JoG2 on August 10, 2021, 10:14:11 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40346108.html%3ftype=amp

Meath winning second half again is irrelevant,  Jim gavin's planes , Aslan junkie fella, imelda may , I could go on and on , it has nothing to do with the football being played . I am a gaa member,  croke park  is hq , take your bias Dublin shite out of it . Sin e .

As for the Meath poster there in with his tuppence in typical alpha Meath bravado . If ye woke the fook up and took them to navan it would be ye that would be contesting sat semi final but ye keep believing it is in the interest of fairness and the like of the faux doctor boylan . I'm sure ye will eventually beat them , fools . Bow to your master's

Please don't
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 10, 2021, 11:10:11 PM
Larry is bang on the money in relation to Meath.

The MacEntee v Gilroy debate on the SG a few years back was embarrassing. Gilroy opened the door for MacEntee that night when he started comparing Dublin to the great KK hurling team, MacEntee didn’t have the answer.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Never beat the deeler on August 11, 2021, 12:09:09 AM
What are the chances of Kellie Harrington getting a rousing introduction at some point on Saturday?


I'd say they'll start her... bring her off before half time then back on with 10 mins to go. The crowd will go crazy
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 11, 2021, 01:38:09 AM
The home team is entitled to have who ever they want as half time entertainment. You don't have the Dubs complaining about half time entertainment when they play away from home.
That's interesting but are all games involving Dublin regarded as home games? What about semis and finals? Do Dublin "host" those games?

The games are in county Dublin. The games are played in the same venue Dublin play their home games in the League. Dublin players live in and are from Dublin. I'd bet most that are employed in Croke Park are from Dublin. I'd bet most of these employees are on a first name basis with Most of the Dublin players and Management.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 11, 2021, 01:47:45 AM
The home team is entitled to have who ever they want as half time entertainment. You don't have the Dubs complaining about half time entertainment when they play away from home.
That's interesting but are all games involving Dublin regarded as home games? What about semis and finals? Do Dublin "host" those games?

The games are in county Dublin. The games are played in the same venue Dublin play their home games in the League. Dublin players live in and are from Dublin. I'd bet most that are employed in Croke Park are from Dublin. I'd bet most of these employees are on a first name basis with Most of the Dublin players and Management.

FFS wasn’t Dean Rocks grandfather the head groundskeeper for years at Croke Park
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 11, 2021, 07:40:38 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40346108.html%3ftype=amp

Meath winning second half again is irrelevant,  Jim gavin's planes , Aslan junkie fella, imelda may , I could go on and on , it has nothing to do with the football being played . I am a gaa member,  croke park  is hq , take your bias Dublin shite out of it . Sin e .


So I see you are retracting the statement that Meath management complained about the half time music. That was a falsehood.

Instead, it was a couple of Meath fans objected to David Bowie’s ‘Let’s Dance’ !!   😆

So let’s ignore the fact that music is always played when teams return to the field but if a team comes out too early or too late, they may miss that. Although not a single player would ever even notice.

You’re an embarrassment to your county players, but your conspiracy nonsense is absolutely hilarious

I’m off to listen to Let’s Dance, to really rev me up for the day 🥰
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 11, 2021, 08:12:05 AM
The home team is entitled to have who ever they want as half time entertainment. You don't have the Dubs complaining about half time entertainment when they play away from home.
That's interesting but are all games involving Dublin regarded as home games? What about semis and finals? Do Dublin "host" those games?

The games are in county Dublin. The games are played in the same venue Dublin play their home games in the League. Dublin players live in and are from Dublin. I'd bet most that are employed in Croke Park are from Dublin. I'd bet most of these employees are on a first name basis with Most of the Dublin players and Management.

FFS wasn’t Dean Rocks grandfather the head groundskeeper for years at Croke Park

If that's true he'd be revolving in his grave at Rocks asking for €1000s to coach amateur teams in free-taking
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 11, 2021, 09:07:41 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40346108.html%3ftype=amp

Meath winning second half again is irrelevant,  Jim gavin's planes , Aslan junkie fella, imelda may , I could go on and on , it has nothing to do with the football being played . I am a gaa member,  croke park  is hq , take your bias Dublin shite out of it . Sin e .

As for the Meath poster there in with his tuppence in typical alpha Meath bravado . If ye woke the fook up and took them to navan it would be ye that would be contesting sat semi final but ye keep believing it is in the interest of fairness and the like of the faux doctor boylan . I'm sure ye will eventually beat them , fools . Bow to your master's

Must of missed this, wow... Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel, would be satisfied with winning the next 1000 Leinster's championships, as long as Meath never win another one. People talk about Leinster not meaning anything anymore, it does, means a lot, especially those who suffered Leinster embarrassing defeats.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Dubhaltach on August 11, 2021, 10:58:12 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40346108.html%3ftype=amp

Meath winning second half again is irrelevant,  Jim gavin's planes , Aslan junkie fella, imelda may , I could go on and on , it has nothing to do with the football being played . I am a gaa member,  croke park  is hq , take your bias Dublin shite out of it . Sin e .


So I see you are retracting the statement that Meath management complained about the half time music. That was a falsehood.

Instead, it was a couple of Meath fans objected to David Bowie’s ‘Let’s Dance’ !!   😆

So let’s ignore the fact that music is always played when teams return to the field but if a team comes out too early or too late, they may miss that. Although not a single player would ever even notice.

You’re an embarrassment to your county players, but your conspiracy nonsense is absolutely hilarious

I’m off to listen to Let’s Dance, to really rev me up for the day 🥰

Not true Hound. I remember the exact same thing happening with 'Let's Dance' at the Mayo Dublin Semi final in 2019. Very unlikely that both Mayo and Meath would have just 'came out too early.'

While this had little impact on the result, its just another one of the small advantages Dublin enjoy year in year out.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 11, 2021, 11:27:54 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40346108.html%3ftype=amp

Meath winning second half again is irrelevant,  Jim gavin's planes , Aslan junkie fella, imelda may , I could go on and on , it has nothing to do with the football being played . I am a gaa member,  croke park  is hq , take your bias Dublin shite out of it . Sin e .


So I see you are retracting the statement that Meath management complained about the half time music. That was a falsehood.

Instead, it was a couple of Meath fans objected to David Bowie’s ‘Let’s Dance’ !!   😆

So let’s ignore the fact that music is always played when teams return to the field but if a team comes out too early or too late, they may miss that. Although not a single player would ever even notice.

You’re an embarrassment to your county players, but your conspiracy nonsense is absolutely hilarious

I’m off to listen to Let’s Dance, to really rev me up for the day 🥰

Not true Hound. I remember the exact same thing happening with 'Let's Dance' at the Mayo Dublin Semi final in 2019. Very unlikely that both Mayo and Meath would have just 'came out too early.'

While this had little impact on the result, its just another one of the small advantages Dublin enjoy year in year out.
There was music being played throughout half time kn 2019
When that song came on, both teams were out
It’s not feckin MollyMalone!
Nobody pays any attention to the song playing when a team comes out as it’s drowned out by the cheers
It didn’t have little impact, it had no impact
It is not a small advantage, it is no advantage.

I agree it’s in your heads alright.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 11, 2021, 11:59:51 AM
Game day is all about familiarity. Players pack their kit bags in a certain way. They have a mental timeline of going from their home to the match. They have routines that fill the day on match day. This carries into the ground as to where a player sits, dressing room stretches and warm ups.

Now if the music blaring from the PA adds to that familiarity, it's all a help. It adds to the continued familiarity and the routine.

Once again, we are forgetting these are home matches for Dublin. 90% of the people employed in Croke Park are from Dublin. What do you expect? If the game was in McHale Park, the Mayo PA would do exactly the same. I don't understand how nobody sees this. This has been the case going on close on two decades now.

The Hill is open this weekend because the home team is playing. In previous years when there was a season ticket, No other county could buy Hill season tickets? Why? The answer is obvious.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 11, 2021, 12:06:59 PM
Game day is all about familiarity. Players pack their kit bags in a certain way. They have a mental timeline of going from their home to the match. They have routines that fill the day on match day. This carries into the ground as to where a player sits, dressing room stretches and warm ups.

Now if the music blaring from the PA adds to that familiarity, it's all a help. It adds to the continued familiarity and the routine.

Once again, we are forgetting these are home matches for Dublin. 90% of the people employed in Croke Park are from Dublin. What do you expect? If the game was in McHale Park, the Mayo PA would do exactly the same. I don't understand how nobody sees this. This has been the case going on close on two decades now.

The Hill is open this weekend because the home team is playing. No other county could buy Hill season tickets? Why? The answer is obvious.
You're reaching with the music shite. But agreed with the rest of your post. Broader point though, the only way to properly resolve the CP home advantage is to have a neutral stadium fit to hold All Ireland Finals… where are we gonna get that?  The hill only opening this weekend for Dubs is a disgrace plain and simple. 
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 11, 2021, 12:13:11 PM
Game day is all about familiarity. Players pack their kit bags in a certain way. They have a mental timeline of going from their home to the match. They have routines that fill the day on match day. This carries into the ground as to where a player sits, dressing room stretches and warm ups.

Now if the music blaring from the PA adds to that familiarity, it's all a help. It adds to the continued familiarity and the routine.

Once again, we are forgetting these are home matches for Dublin. 90% of the people employed in Croke Park are from Dublin. What do you expect? If the game was in McHale Park, the Mayo PA would do exactly the same. I don't understand how nobody sees this. This has been the case going on close on two decades now.

The Hill is open this weekend because the home team is playing. In previous years when there was a season ticket, No other county could buy Hill season tickets? Why? The answer is obvious.

The Hill shouldn't be open this weekend if it is not open for any other match during Covid, that much is clear. As for complaining about the music, I don't think the PA playing 'The Rare Oul Times' at half time will have any impact on the Mayo players.   
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2021, 12:14:03 PM
Game day is all about familiarity. Players pack their kit bags in a certain way. They have a mental timeline of going from their home to the match. They have routines that fill the day on match day. This carries into the ground as to where a player sits, dressing room stretches and warm ups.

Now if the music blaring from the PA adds to that familiarity, it's all a help. It adds to the continued familiarity and the routine.

Once again, we are forgetting these are home matches for Dublin. 90% of the people employed in Croke Park are from Dublin. What do you expect? If the game was in McHale Park, the Mayo PA would do exactly the same. I don't understand how nobody sees this. This has been the case going on close on two decades now.

The Hill is open this weekend because the home team is playing. No other county could buy Hill season tickets? Why? The answer is obvious.
You're reaching with the music shite. But agreed with the rest of your post. Broader point though, the only way to properly resolve the CP home advantage is to have a neutral stadium fit to hold All Ireland Finals… where are we gonna get that?  The hill only opening this weekend for Dubs is a disgrace plain and simple.

Once Casement is open if the Dubs are playing it could be played there for semi finals, Croker should be still for finals though
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 11, 2021, 12:23:55 PM
Game day is all about familiarity. Players pack their kit bags in a certain way. They have a mental timeline of going from their home to the match. They have routines that fill the day on match day. This carries into the ground as to where a player sits, dressing room stretches and warm ups.

Now if the music blaring from the PA adds to that familiarity, it's all a help. It adds to the continued familiarity and the routine.

Once again, we are forgetting these are home matches for Dublin. 90% of the people employed in Croke Park are from Dublin. What do you expect? If the game was in McHale Park, the Mayo PA would do exactly the same. I don't understand how nobody sees this. This has been the case going on close on two decades now.

The Hill is open this weekend because the home team is playing. No other county could buy Hill season tickets? Why? The answer is obvious.
You're reaching with the music shite. But agreed with the rest of your post. Broader point though, the only way to properly resolve the CP home advantage is to have a neutral stadium fit to hold All Ireland Finals… where are we gonna get that?  The hill only opening this weekend for Dubs is a disgrace plain and simple.

Running onto the pitch to familiar music ads to a continuation of routine. It's a very small thing, but it is still a thing. Running out to a very familiar setting of a home game on the other hand is a big thing.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 11, 2021, 12:43:48 PM
Game day is all about familiarity. Players pack their kit bags in a certain way. They have a mental timeline of going from their home to the match. They have routines that fill the day on match day. This carries into the ground as to where a player sits, dressing room stretches and warm ups.

Now if the music blaring from the PA adds to that familiarity, it's all a help. It adds to the continued familiarity and the routine.

Once again, we are forgetting these are home matches for Dublin. 90% of the people employed in Croke Park are from Dublin. What do you expect? If the game was in McHale Park, the Mayo PA would do exactly the same. I don't understand how nobody sees this. This has been the case going on close on two decades now.

The Hill is open this weekend because the home team is playing. No other county could buy Hill season tickets? Why? The answer is obvious.
You're reaching with the music shite. But agreed with the rest of your post. Broader point though, the only way to properly resolve the CP home advantage is to have a neutral stadium fit to hold All Ireland Finals… where are we gonna get that?  The hill only opening this weekend for Dubs is a disgrace plain and simple.

Or maybe have Dublin play in CP for the NFL final, provincial finals, All Ireland semi finals and finals only. Play home league games in Parnell Park, I'm sure fans wouldn't mind not getting a ticket to one game every year.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 11, 2021, 01:35:47 PM
Anyone hear a rumour about one of our star players and a quad injury ruling him out ?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 11, 2021, 01:46:13 PM
Anyone hear a rumour about one of our star players and a quad injury ruling him out ?

Yes one of the attacking defenders.  Will find out soon enough if rumours are true. Previous rumours had Lee Keegan and Aidan O'Shea ruled out for the year and both was fine.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 11, 2021, 02:53:28 PM
Which one of you did this? :)

https://www.allirelandversusdublin.com/
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 11, 2021, 09:07:37 PM
Quote
Which one of you did this? :)

https://www.allirelandversusdublin.com/[/ :D :Dquote]

Looks like Cluxtons handy work
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2021, 10:54:54 PM
I say this as a person without a inch of will to wish injury upon anyone, but why the f*** can it never be Dublin who pick up these f***** injuries

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/2021/08/11/mayo-facing-major-injury-concern-ahead-of-clash-against-dublin/?fbclid=IwAR2KRq7-cYy2QYYI3WxgpzSehtqFKzvLsrsVH-Ftr-YTAyNQfUxtLvCmbiY
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 11, 2021, 11:43:51 PM
Had a chance,  now we have none .
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 12, 2021, 12:16:08 AM
If Mullin doesn't play it will be a straight swap with Eoghan McLaughlin whom didn't start the Connacht final.

The poll here kinda shows how much of 50/50 game this is. For the December final I can Imagine it was 60/40 in favour of Dublin.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 12, 2021, 08:32:41 AM
I say this as a person without a inch of will to wish injury upon anyone, but why the f*** can it never be Dublin who pick up these f***** injuries

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/2021/08/11/mayo-facing-major-injury-concern-ahead-of-clash-against-dublin/?fbclid=IwAR2KRq7-cYy2QYYI3WxgpzSehtqFKzvLsrsVH-Ftr-YTAyNQfUxtLvCmbiY

Huge loss if accurate, top top footballer.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 12, 2021, 09:56:52 AM
Had a chance,  now we have none .

Exactly. :(
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 12, 2021, 10:55:44 AM
Stay at home so lads, Christ
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 12, 2021, 10:58:57 AM

The poll here kinda shows how much of 50/50 game this is.

The poll kinda shows that there are more Mayo posters than Dublin posters.

The Poll kinda shows that all the rest hope Mayo win or are just pulling the piss.

Saying this game was 50/50 is laughable.  ;D

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Rossfan on August 12, 2021, 11:09:16 AM
If ye do happen to win could I ask ye to please don't wreck the Stadium as ourselves and the Biffos want to watch our Final in comfort.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 12, 2021, 01:03:43 PM
Genuinely hope the reports of Oisin’s injury is exaggerated and he’s ok for Saturday. His clash with Con is mouth watering.

Who picked up Kilkenny in the final last year? Would Coen be expected to have the job this time? If I was Mayo, I’d be strongly tempted to have Coen manmark Fenton, but then not sure what you’d do with Kilkenny.

If Dublin win, my hunch is that Costello will be the star man, so also very interested to see what Mayo do with him.

Not sure the Dublin defence match ups will be important as the other end, as I’d rate our defenders pretty similar in ability (albeit hindsight will almost inevitably say different. All are good defenders, but all capable of being turned. It was interesting to hear Andy Moran during the week saying he much preferred being on Cooper or Philly than Fitz (the latter the one who usually marked him). It’s funny that Tommy Conroy didn’t have the greatest game v Galway, but everyone could see the potential there and media are certainly bigging him up as Mayo’s biggest scoring threat.

After Ruane’s swashbuckling performance v Galway, most are predicting McCarthy will pick him up. That will be interesting too.
Conor Loftus is flying under the radar at the moment, I think there’s a big game in him.

Starting to get excited.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thewobbler on August 12, 2021, 01:04:56 PM
Paddy Durcan kept Kilkenny out of the game in the first half. When he didn’t reappear after the break, Kilkenny was one of the main reasons for the gap emerging.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: WhoDat on August 12, 2021, 01:29:10 PM
any truth that oisin mullin is gone for the season? whatever chance mayo had before is surely significantly diminished without him? he's their x factor player at the moment.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 12, 2021, 01:47:11 PM
any truth that oisin mullin is gone for the season? whatever chance mayo had before is surely significantly diminished without him? he's their x factor player at the moment.

Time will tell, Eoghan McLaughlin coming in will be a very able replacement. A blow to be sure but I’m not counting Mayo out in any case
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: MayoBuck on August 12, 2021, 01:58:55 PM
any truth that oisin mullin is gone for the season? whatever chance mayo had before is surely significantly diminished without him? he's their x factor player at the moment.

There seems to be 2 stories going round. One is he's gone for the season, the other is it's a minor knock and he'll probably start.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 12, 2021, 02:03:24 PM
Genuinely hope the reports of Oisin’s injury is exaggerated and he’s ok for Saturday. His clash with Con is mouth watering.

Who picked up Kilkenny in the final last year? Would Coen be expected to have the job this time? If I was Mayo, I’d be strongly tempted to have Coen manmark Fenton, but then not sure what you’d do with Kilkenny.

If Dublin win, my hunch is that Costello will be the star man, so also very interested to see what Mayo do with him.

Not sure the Dublin defence match ups will be important as the other end, as I’d rate our defenders pretty similar in ability (albeit hindsight will almost inevitably say different. All are good defenders, but all capable of being turned. It was interesting to hear Andy Moran during the week saying he much preferred being on Cooper or Philly than Fitz (the latter the one who usually marked him). It’s funny that Tommy Conroy didn’t have the greatest game v Galway, but everyone could see the potential there and media are certainly bigging him up as Mayo’s biggest scoring threat.

After Ruane’s swashbuckling performance v Galway, most are predicting McCarthy will pick him up. That will be interesting too.
Conor Loftus is flying under the radar at the moment, I think there’s a big game in him.

Starting to get excited.
Hope Mullin is fit for sure, some baller. Durcan was on Kilkenny until he got injured last year I think?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 12, 2021, 02:04:31 PM
any truth that oisin mullin is gone for the season? whatever chance mayo had before is surely significantly diminished without him? he's their x factor player at the moment.

Time will tell, Eoghan McLaughlin coming in will be a very able replacement. A blow to be sure but I’m not counting Mayo out in any case
Would McLaughlin not start anyway? Very good player imo.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 12, 2021, 02:40:01 PM
Likely Mayo starting team if Mullin is out.

Robert Hennelly;
Lee Keegan, Padraig O'Hora, Michael Plunkett;
Paddy Durcan, Eoghan McLaughlin, Stephen Coen;
Mattie Ruane, Conor Loftus;
Kevin McLoughlin Aidan O'Shea, Diarmuid O'Connor;
Tommy Conroy, Darren McHale, Ryan O'Donoghue.

Good mix of young and experience. Plenty of power, pace and physicality to match Dublin.


The biggest question mark before this semi final is about Dublin. Can they turn on form like a tap? The way they performed v Meath, Kildare and Wexford will not be good enough to win this semi-final on Saturday evening.


Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Louther on August 12, 2021, 02:52:34 PM
Mullin would be a massive miss and I’m sure if he any way right they’ll try and get part of the game out of him but the whispers don’t seem favourable.

Big test for Dublin and generally they answer these tests. Will expect big games from Fenton, McCarthy and Kilkenny to set the agenda.

Can still see Dublin by 4/5pts.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: joemamas on August 12, 2021, 03:20:35 PM
Likely Mayo starting team if Mullin is out.

Robert Hennelly;
Lee Keegan, Padraig O'Hora, Michael Plunkett;
Paddy Durcan, Eoghan McLaughlin, Stephen Coen;
Mattie Ruane, Conor Loftus;
Kevin McLoughlin Aidan O'Shea, Diarmuid O'Connor;
Tommy Conroy, Darren McHale, Ryan O'Donoghue.

Good mix of young and experience. Plenty of power, pace and physicality to match Dublin.


The biggest question mark before this semi final is about Dublin. Can they turn on form like a tap? The way they performed v Meath, Kildare and Wexford will not be good enough to win this semi-final on Saturday evening.
Deflated with news of Mullin. If he and Cillian O Connor were playing I would be quite confident, but they are not.......

As for the above line out, Hard to see O Hora (who had a blinder V Galway) being fully fit to last anywhere near 70 mins.
Coen has a great attitude, super fit, and can fill in a number of positions (but IMO does not have the football skill set for intercounty, e.g. mark V galway)
Darren McHale, Bryan Walsh and DOC were very poor, the latter's reputation perhaps deservidly so kept him on the field as long as it did. Other two replaced at halftime.

Only good news is that Mayo have had some time to plan on Mullin's abscence.

Whatever the score, as always they will fight to the bitter end and will no doubt make us proud to be Mayomen, as this long journey moves on to on yet another chapter. I have no doubt that the success of the last Ten years has and will result in the cultivation of some wonderful footballers in Mayo as long as they are coached and managed properly.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 12, 2021, 04:37:37 PM

 I have no doubt that the success of the last Ten years has and will result in the cultivation of some wonderful footballers in Mayo as long as they are coached and managed properly.

You mean like they are coached and managed properly in the Dublin set-up that has been heavily funded the last decade and a half?

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: rrhf on August 12, 2021, 04:44:19 PM
Really looking forward to this game. Langan is a big loss if not playing. Huge ask for Mayo but a big opportunity also. 
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: joemamas on August 12, 2021, 05:18:18 PM

 I have no doubt that the success of the last Ten years has and will result in the cultivation of some wonderful footballers in Mayo as long as they are coached and managed properly.

You mean like they are coached and managed properly in the Dublin set-up that has been heavily funded the last decade and a half?

No, I mean that we do not revert to the idiots who were responsible for the shannanigans we had at county board for the last few decades, and the nonsense that resulted from their actions.
I.E Manager selection, Buddy system same folks having control of county board, just in different positions.
we have moved on thankfully.
Yes Money and funding a big factor, but the lack of this has impacted more counties other than Mayo,
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 12, 2021, 05:29:37 PM
Evan Comerford;
Michael Fitzsimons,
David Byrne,
Jonny Cooper;
Brian Howard,
John Small,
Seán McMahon;
Brian Fenton,
James McCarthy;
Paddy Small,
Ciarán Kilkenny,
Niall Scully;
Cormac Costello,
Con O’Callaghan,
Dean Rock.


That was the Dublin team v Kildare the last day.

Outside of Fitzimons I'd have the defence is ordinary enough. Cian O'Sullivan's boots have yet to be filled IMO. The key battle in this game is Fenton v Ruane. Hopefully Coen will manage McCarthy.

In saying all that if Horan starts the next day without K.McLoughlin in a sweeper role we too, with our suspect defence will be torn asunder by the like of Costello, Scully and O'Callaghan.

Did Dublin name thier referree for the match yet?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 12, 2021, 05:42:57 PM
If Mayo play a sweeper, that gifts Dublin a sweeper (I.e. 6 backs against 5 forwards). We’ll be hoping that happens but not expecting it.

Whingeing about the ref already. Not untypical of some Mayo fans.
I’ve heard it’s Conor Lane. Would be very close to the bottom of my wish list.  But I haven’t checked if that’s true.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 12, 2021, 06:14:32 PM
Evan Comerford;
Michael Fitzsimons,
David Byrne,
Jonny Cooper;
Brian Howard,
John Small,
Seán McMahon;
Brian Fenton,
James McCarthy;
Paddy Small,
Ciarán Kilkenny,
Niall Scully;
Cormac Costello,
Con O’Callaghan,
Dean Rock.


That was the Dublin team v Kildare the last day.

Outside of Fitzimons I'd have the defence is ordinary enough. Cian O'Sullivan's boots have yet to be filled IMO. The key battle in this game is Fenton v Ruane. Hopefully Coen will manage McCarthy.

In saying all that if Horan starts the next day without K.McLoughlin in a sweeper role we too, with our suspect defence will be torn asunder by the like of Costello, Scully and O'Callaghan.

Did Dublin name thier referree for the match yet?

I would hold back McLoughlin alright
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 12, 2021, 06:29:14 PM
Lighten up, the ref thing was meant as a joke. Ye are getting fierce sensitive.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: greatpoint on August 12, 2021, 06:52:59 PM
Dublin to win relatively comfortably, more like last year’s final than the 2019 semi.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 12, 2021, 07:57:55 PM
If Mayo play a sweeper, that gifts Dublin a sweeper (I.e. 6 backs against 5 forwards). We’ll be hoping that happens but not expecting it.

Whingeing about the ref already. Not untypical of some Mayo fans.
I’ve heard it’s Conor Lane. Would be very close to the bottom of my wish list.  But I haven’t checked if that’s true.

It is Conor Lane.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 12, 2021, 08:44:28 PM
Oisin out , 100%.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 12, 2021, 08:46:31 PM
Oisin out , 100%.

Could we worst, could have twenty players out like Tyrone have
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 12, 2021, 09:09:07 PM
Might as well have 20 players .

Btw I dont know what to believe now,  there's some amount of fuckery going on through the WhatsApp and what have ya , I was told two completely different stories inside ten mins of each other.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Tubberman on August 12, 2021, 09:23:19 PM
Might as well have 20 players .

Btw I dont know what to believe now,  there's some amount of fuckery going on through the WhatsApp and what have ya , I was told two completely different stories inside ten mins of each other.

So what % are you at now Larry?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 12, 2021, 09:31:27 PM
Never been as confused but yes I believe my first source and not the other ridiculous made up stuff.

Oisin out , eoghan in .
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 12, 2021, 09:47:19 PM
Never been as confused but yes I believe my first source and not the other ridiculous made up stuff.

Oisin out , eoghan in .

And I have full faith in him and the rest of the lads to step up.

Seamie OShea had a great response when asked about COC injury.

He says, it’s very cut throat, but when you’re not there you’re not there. Simple as. It’s an opportunity for others to step up, and I believe they will. Oisín Mullin is a brilliant footballer, but that’s it. He’s not superman either.

Depress yourselves all ye want, we have as good a chance as anyone (for the next 48 hours at least). Enjoy it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 12, 2021, 09:49:38 PM
All we know at this stage is that Oisín is injured. If it's year-ending or not we don't know yet. I'll continue to hope he's not badly injured and will play some part on Saturday. What we don't want is O'Hora AND himself not at full throttle.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 12, 2021, 09:53:21 PM
Never been as confused but yes I believe my first source and not the other ridiculous made up stuff.

Oisin out , eoghan in .

And I have full faith in him and the rest of the lads to step up.

Seamie OShea had a great response when asked about COC injury.

He says, it’s very cut throat, but when you’re not there you’re not there. Simple as. It’s an opportunity for others to step up, and I believe they will. Oisín Mullin is a brilliant footballer, but that’s it. He’s not superman either.

Depress yourselves all ye want, we have as good a chance as anyone (for the next 48 hours at least). Enjoy it.


+1

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 12, 2021, 10:00:15 PM
Anyone here with Hill tickets?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 12, 2021, 10:01:47 PM
Fair play mayo88, I'd love to have your enthusiasm right now but you're right these lads representing our county are a special bunch of lads who are moving along nicely.  When I get inside croke park on sat I will roar on both the women and men like most of our support. 

But for now I'm fairly depressed for the simple reason with a full deck this year I think we could of killed them good and proper , cillian was massive obviously but to then take oisin out of the equation,  ffs does it ever fall like this for Dublin,  even their suspensions get lifted ffs .

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 12, 2021, 10:03:53 PM
Anyone here with Hill tickets?


Some of our gang are on the hill .
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 12, 2021, 10:13:31 PM
Any idea how many they’re letting on the hill?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 13, 2021, 11:19:08 AM
On one hand, Mayo minus the all-time scorer, are 50/50 by this poll and it seems mad...on the other hand in the Leinster Final I was there and Dublin were doing things I haven't seen them do in the guts of a decade...

I do think they will up their game and probably didn't need to in Leinster but I don't know if they can flick a switch and just turn into the team we know they can be.

As stated here, if Mayo had everyone then I would really fancy them, but the hope will kill the #Mayo4Sam fans again. Dubs by 5+

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 13, 2021, 11:45:36 AM
On one hand, Mayo minus the all-time scorer, are 50/50 by this poll and it seems mad...on the other hand in the Leinster Final I was there and Dublin were doing things I haven't seen them do in the guts of a decade...

I do think they will up their game and probably didn't need to in Leinster but I don't know if they can flick a switch and just turn into the team we know they can be.

As stated here, if Mayo had everyone then I would really fancy them, but the hope will kill the #Mayo4Sam fans again. Dubs by 5+

Once again - the poll means nothing other than huge bias and hope.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: rosnarun on August 13, 2021, 12:09:38 PM
If your serious about winning an All-ireland you have to be able to take that hard blows . like mullen and Cillian.
bth teams have lost alot of their experienced players so its a new Game
No Excuses .
Verdict mayo may have to win by 5 or more and force dublin out of their tika tacka soccer style game plan
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 13, 2021, 12:33:43 PM
If your serious about winning an All-ireland you have to be able to take that hard blows . like mullen and Cillian.
bth teams have lost alot of their experienced players so its a new Game
No Excuses .
Verdict mayo may have to win by 5 or more and force dublin out of their tika tacka soccer style game plan

+1
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 13, 2021, 01:11:37 PM
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Verdict mayo may have to win by 5 or more and force dublin out of their tika tacka soccer style game plan

Nail on the head. We’ve to replicate 2012 to win.

 My fear is Horan might show too much respect for the Dubs in the first quarter and try and contain Dublin, it’s a hard call though given our own fucked up start to matches. We might be as well off trying a blitz to start and try and get a lead going into the water break.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Cobra on August 13, 2021, 01:53:10 PM
I fancy Mayo....
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 13, 2021, 02:16:11 PM
Any teams named yet?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 13, 2021, 02:23:51 PM
On one hand, Mayo minus the all-time scorer, are 50/50 by this poll and it seems mad...on the other hand in the Leinster Final I was there and Dublin were doing things I haven't seen them do in the guts of a decade...

I do think they will up their game and probably didn't need to in Leinster but I don't know if they can flick a switch and just turn into the team we know they can be.

As stated here, if Mayo had everyone then I would really fancy them, but the hope will kill the #Mayo4Sam fans again. Dubs by 5+

It was pre Jim Gavin era stuff from Dublin against both Meath, Kildare.

The poll reflects what posters have seen with Dublin this year. Unsure waiting for them to click. Most Mayo supporters should know this semi final is there for them to win.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 13, 2021, 02:44:23 PM
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Verdict mayo may have to win by 5 or more and force dublin out of their tika tacka soccer style game plan

Nail on the head. We’ve to replicate 2012 to win.

 My fear is Horan might show too much respect for the Dubs in the first quarter and try and contain Dublin, it’s a hard call though given our own fucked up start to matches. We might be as well off trying a blitz to start and try and get a lead going into the water break.

Honestly I think it’s the opposite. We may fear Horan being too naive and gung ho, but I can guarantee you there is not a single head in that Mayo camp with a single inch of fear of Dublin.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 13, 2021, 02:59:51 PM
Once again it’s the Dubs and Mayo, and once again Mayo will be trying to get over a hurdle they have seldom managed since before the 1950s. Some people are saying the Dubs are there for the taking but I guess an amount of that is wishful thinking. Tomorrow will tell.

COYBIB
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 13, 2021, 03:01:07 PM
I hope ye are right but the blow of losing Oisin is too big
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 13, 2021, 03:22:44 PM
Once again it’s the Dubs and Mayo, and once again Mayo will be trying to get over a hurdle they have seldom managed since before the 1950s. Some people are saying the Dubs are there for the taking but I guess an amount of that is wishful thinking. Tomorrow will tell.

COYBIB

TV stations have to sell advertising, Newspapers have to be sold, tickets have to be sold. Interest has to be generated by a dying GAA.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 13, 2021, 04:29:05 PM
Once again it’s the Dubs and Mayo, and once again Mayo will be trying to get over a hurdle they have seldom managed since before the 1950s. Some people are saying the Dubs are there for the taking but I guess an amount of that is wishful thinking. Tomorrow will tell.

COYBIB

We are missing cillian and now oisin with the possibility of o hora too . Who honestly thinks we can beat Dublin with two star players out , ffs its absolutely crazy to suggest this . Full deck we had every chance but I think anyone who predicts a mayo win now needs a dose of reality . Bonkers
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 13, 2021, 04:43:16 PM
Some people are saying the Dubs are there for the taking but I guess an amount of that is wishful thinking. Tomorrow will tell.


Not about wishing they are there for the taking. It's up to opposition to exploit a very vulnerable Dublin and it won't speak volumes for the main challengers Mayo and Kerry if they don't.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: rosnarun on August 13, 2021, 04:49:04 PM
Once again it’s the Dubs and Mayo, and once again Mayo will be trying to get over a hurdle they have seldom managed since before the 1950s. Some people are saying the Dubs are there for the taking but I guess an amount of that is wishful thinking. Tomorrow will tell.

COYBIB

TV stations have to sell advertising, Newspapers have to be sold, tickets have to be sold. Interest has to be generated by a dying GAA.
Adying GAA. thats crazy talk . maybe the top level is becpmimg fractured but Hurling was ever thus .
Look at the grass roots level things have Never been as good.
any who cant see that GAA is by far the most dominant sport in the country is making the figures fit the facts .
the biggest real problem the gaa have at the moment is ensuring the facilites coaches and referees for all who want to play .
a fra cry fromFull Croke park but thats the strenght of the GAA
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 13, 2021, 09:56:58 PM
Just leaving Terryland park, with my Mayo jersey on, Galway United have beaten Dublin club Shelbourne (who were unbeaten all season until now) 3-0.

Good omen? 🤔
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Rossfan on August 13, 2021, 10:00:43 PM
No.
Them soccer crowd probably had bet on themselves to lose 3 -0.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 13, 2021, 10:16:59 PM
No.
Them soccer crowd probably had bet on themselves to lose 3 -0.

Ah now, they’re not Limerick or Athlone !
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: WhoDat on August 13, 2021, 10:23:43 PM
have been hearing all is not well in the dublin camp too...wonder is there any truth to that
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 13, 2021, 10:47:16 PM
Once again it’s the Dubs and Mayo, and once again Mayo will be trying to get over a hurdle they have seldom managed since before the 1950s. Some people are saying the Dubs are there for the taking but I guess an amount of that is wishful thinking. Tomorrow will tell.

COYBIB

TV stations have to sell advertising, Newspapers have to be sold, tickets have to be sold. Interest has to be generated by a dying GAA.
Adying GAA. thats crazy talk . maybe the top level is becpmimg fractured but Hurling was ever thus .
Look at the grass roots level things have Never been as good.
any who cant see that GAA is by far the most dominant sport in the country is making the figures fit the facts .
the biggest real problem the gaa have at the moment is ensuring the facilites coaches and referees for all who want to play .
a fra cry fromFull Croke park but thats the strenght of the GAA

Apologies, the dying intercounty football game.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 13, 2021, 10:49:49 PM
have been hearing all is not well in the dublin camp too...wonder is there any truth to that

And pray tell me where have you been hearing all of this?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 13, 2021, 11:19:08 PM
Great chance for Mayo tomorrow. I think they win by 4. Tommy Conroy and Ryan O'Donoghue in top form and keep O'Shea inside. The dubs goalie and full back line is their weakness.  Ryan O'Donoghue is top class freetaker. Only one free missed in 3 games and will need same again tomorrow. The dubs look poor this year. Mayo need to take advantage.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 13, 2021, 11:39:47 PM
Bloody nora , give me a swig of whatever youre drinking lad
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 13, 2021, 11:45:35 PM
Mullen and O'Hora will be fit for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 13, 2021, 11:56:30 PM
mullen is out for up to four months , wont tog again this year, sin e.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: WhoDat on August 14, 2021, 12:10:03 AM
have been hearing all is not well in the dublin camp too...wonder is there any truth to that

And pray tell me where have you been hearing all of this?

from people i know who are involved with the dublin club scene. heard it from a couple of separate sources now.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 07:11:11 AM
Anyone get sight of program screenshots yet?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: RedHand88 on August 14, 2021, 07:47:37 AM
have been hearing all is not well in the dublin camp too...wonder is there any truth to that

And pray tell me where have you been hearing all of this?

from people i know who are involved with the dublin club scene. heard it from a couple of separate sources now.

Maybe source B also heard it from source A and source A was making it up?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 08:06:34 AM
Reading this morning that the Basquel brothers are Mayomen!
Well, almost. Their father is from Mountbrown, not far from Westport.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 14, 2021, 08:13:27 AM
Reading this morning that the Basquel brothers are Mayomen!
Well, almost. Their father is from Mountbrown, not far from Westport.

In 2016 when Ballyboden St Enda's won the Club AI, there was talk of poaching them. Just talk!
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: WhoDat on August 14, 2021, 09:23:08 AM
have been hearing all is not well in the dublin camp too...wonder is there any truth to that

And pray tell me where have you been hearing all of this?

from people i know who are involved with the dublin club scene. heard it from a couple of separate sources now.

Maybe source B also heard it from source A and source A was making it up?

or maybe it's not beyond the realms of possibility that farrell is not managing the egos as well as gavin. i mean, cluxton has walked away without formal explanation, presumed to be throwing a strop because of the covid breach a few months ago, that i know for sure. wouldn't have happened under gavin.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 09:42:19 AM
Mayo's hope is largely based on the trouble within the Dublin camp and the deterioration of their form this year. Even with Dublin's defections and retirements they logically shouldn't beat Dublin when you look at the teamsheets. I just don't see where they can get the scores needed to beat Dublin they don't have enough score takers up front unless they can score 2 or 3 goals.

I just hope that the game is at least competitive going into the final quarter and we find out if Dublin still have the same levels of motivation and desire down the stretch. Mayo will need to play with a manic desire for 75+ minutes just to have a chance. 
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Tubberman on August 14, 2021, 09:44:32 AM
Reading this morning that the Basquel brothers are Mayomen!
Well, almost. Their father is from Mountbrown, not far from Westport.

Plenty of Basquels back that way, and they don't pronounce it with the French sounding emphasis at the end!
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 09:56:24 AM
Reading this morning that the Basquel brothers are Mayomen!
Well, almost. Their father is from Mountbrown, not far from Westport.

Plenty of Basquels back that way, and they don't pronounce it with the French sounding emphasis at the end!

😄


Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2021, 10:52:18 AM
Mayo to pull away in the end and win by 5, with a clean sheet. Ryan O’Donoghue man of the match.

Mayo 2-13 Dublin 0-14.

And that’s the bottom line, cos Stone Cold Mayo4Sam14 said so
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 14, 2021, 11:01:44 AM
Quote
Bloody nora , give me a swig of whatever youre drinking lad

When Larry is pessimistic it’s a good sign.

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 14, 2021, 11:06:47 AM
Wet ball today, should suit us culchies
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2021, 11:07:57 AM
Mayo 26, any sign of Dublin’s?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AVy4xmVJqKz4stXgT3BLldo3EFHmhhqt/view?usp=drivesdk
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 11:11:22 AM
Dublin have basically started their strongest team with not much firepower to bring off the bench. In fact both benches look ordinary in comparision to previous encounters between the sides.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2021, 11:27:36 AM
Anyone have an indo sub? https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/same-old-failing-will-come-back-to-haunt-mayo-in-another-tilt-at-the-champions-40750285.html
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 14, 2021, 12:41:50 PM
4 changes to both sides from last Decembers All-Ireland final.

Stephen Cluxton; Michael Fitzsimons, David Byrne, Jonny Cooper; Eoin Murchan, John Small  Robbie McDaid; Brian Fenton , James McCarthy; Niall Scully Ciaran Kilkenny , Seán Bugler  Paddy Small, Con O'Callaghan Dean Rock



Mayo: David Clarke; Chris Barrett, Oisin Mullin Lee Keegan; Patrick Durcan, Stephen Coen Eoghan McLaughlin; Conor Loftus  Matthew Ruane; Kevin McLoughlin, Ryan O'Donoghue , Diarmuid O'Connor; Tommy Conroy, Aidan O'Shea, Cillian O'Connor
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 01:20:56 PM
Same team for the Dubs. But question as to whether Murchan will start.  Robbie McDaid back on the bench.

Oisin not in the 26.
I see Brendan Harrison on the bench, has he been a sub all along this year?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Tubberman on August 14, 2021, 01:25:27 PM
No, first appearance in 26 this year, hasnt played intercounty in 2 years,  hard to see him play more than 15 or 20
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2021, 03:41:48 PM
Talk of Mullin togging after all? 🤔
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 03:48:12 PM
Talk of Mullin togging after all? 🤔
As far as I know the 26 has to be handed in to the GAA on Wednesday or Thursday. Nobody not in the 26 can play any part, but you can change your starting line up. The only exception is if your keeper gets injured a replacement can come in. (Not sure if there are now temp additional exceptions coz of covid, but don’t think so). 

So the question is whether the 26 given to the program guys is the same as the 26 given to the GAA!?
Also when both teams hand in their 26 before the deadline, are they then shared with the opposition? Maybe not, as if they were shared there’d be no reason not to share with the media at the same time.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2021, 03:56:33 PM
Talk of Mullin togging after all? 🤔
As far as I know the 26 has to be handed in to the GAA on Wednesday or Thursday. Nobody not in the 26 can play any part, but you can change your starting line up. The only exception is if your keeper gets injured a replacement can come in. (Not sure if there are now temp additional exceptions coz of covid, but don’t think so). 

So the question is whether the 26 given to the program guys is the same as the 26 given to the GAA!?
Also when both teams hand in their 26 before the deadline, are they then shared with the opposition? Maybe not, as if they were shared there’d be no reason not to share with the media at the same time.

I thought there was changes to that rule since covid times?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: twohands!!! on August 14, 2021, 03:58:04 PM
Talk of Mullin togging after all? 🤔
As far as I know the 26 has to be handed in to the GAA on Wednesday or Thursday. Nobody not in the 26 can play any part, but you can change your starting line up. The only exception is if your keeper gets injured a replacement can come in. (Not sure if there are now temp additional exceptions coz of covid, but don’t think so). 

So the question is whether the 26 given to the program guys is the same as the 26 given to the GAA!?
Also when both teams hand in their 26 before the deadline, are they then shared with the opposition? Maybe not, as if they were shared there’d be no reason not to share with the media at the same time.

Nearly 100% that the rules around the 26 haven't been changed due to COVID.
Also my understanding was that the panel of 26 goes to Croke Park and they send it on to the printers of the program.
The panel of 26 isn't shared with the opposition.

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 14, 2021, 05:56:42 PM
Mayo starting as selected. One late change for Dublin Eoin Murchan is in from the start.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 06:06:39 PM
Who u supposed to social distance in the hill 16 end, they on top of each other. I never think Paul McStay played for Mayo, he's always got Dublin blinkers on.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: clarshack on August 14, 2021, 06:09:49 PM
Dublin look well up for this.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 06:10:18 PM
This looks ominous already, Dublin have upped the physicality and Mayo can’t get the ball.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 14, 2021, 06:10:47 PM
Who u supposed to social distance in the hill 16 end, they on top of each other. I never think Paul McStay played for Mayo, he's always got Dublin blinkers on.

Paul McStay played for Celtic!
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 06:17:49 PM
Kevin McStay, Dublin different today compared to previous games all year.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 14, 2021, 06:19:34 PM
19 mins played. Dublin 0-6 Mayo 0-2
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 14, 2021, 06:24:38 PM
Kevin McStay, Dublin different today compared to previous games all year.

Kevin you'll remember put his name in the hat for the Mayo job and was resoundingly turned down. He has fallen out of love for his county of birth and you notice this in commentary and his written columns.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 06:24:42 PM
O'Shea missed 2 easy ones
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Nanderson on August 14, 2021, 06:26:10 PM
O'Shea missed 2 easy ones
O'Shea probably wishes he could play Sligo or leitrim every week and he'd be the GOAT
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: CK_Redhand on August 14, 2021, 06:26:16 PM
O'Shea missed 2 easy ones
First from his preferred side could he have claimed a mark?  Can't remember if the pass was from outside 45.

Second was woeful.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 06:26:42 PM
Mayo feeling the absence of O’Connor already but Dublin well on top.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 14, 2021, 06:27:02 PM
Aidan O’Shea is just a liability for Mayo whenever he plays against the Dubs in Croker..
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 14, 2021, 06:27:53 PM
O'Shea missed 2 easy ones
O'Shea probably wishes he could play Sligo or leitrim every week and he'd be the GOAT

He also likes playing against Down.  ;D
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 14, 2021, 06:28:04 PM
Jesus do Dublin fans have to boo, whistle or shout everytimr myo go forward
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 14, 2021, 06:29:14 PM
Is Conor Lane auditioning for Dublin Joe’s job? He is awful.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 06:31:29 PM
It's just who they are, sure it's conor McGregor country, the whistles in the bck ground plus a tit with a bell is very off-putting.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: armaghniac on August 14, 2021, 06:31:47 PM
I thought it was Tyrone who wasn't going to show up at the semi, are Mayo out in sympathy?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 06:33:18 PM
Kilkenny pulling the strings, Fenton and O’Callaghan have been poor again but Dublin still well in control. Paddy Small must be one of best men in the country at winning a soft free kick he can be infuriating.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 06:36:26 PM
This game looks over, wonder why Dublin been so poor up to today.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: An Watcher on August 14, 2021, 06:36:30 PM
Pure shite, gaelic football is dead
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 06:40:58 PM
Terrible misses by Mayo is what is mainly missing from making this a close game.
A goal could change things.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 14, 2021, 06:41:28 PM
Terrible misses by Mayo is what is mainly missing from making this a close game.
A goal could change things.

😂😂😂
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 14, 2021, 06:41:39 PM
Half time Dublin 0-10 Mayo 0-4. Mayo can be thankful the margin at the break is only 6 points.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 14, 2021, 06:42:45 PM
Terrible misses by Mayo is what is mainly missing from making this a close game.
A goal could change things.

Are you kidding me, a close game?  ;D
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2021, 06:43:05 PM
I’d rather watch mayo get bet by 20 points by Kerry, at least they were good at football. This is rugby, pass around for 10 minutes, head down and charge, as many steps as you like. Free in. Clock work.

And could someone riddle me this. Last week: hill closed, stands at 25%. This week hill at 100%, the rest of the stadium at 25%.

It’d sicken you.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: twohands!!! on August 14, 2021, 06:44:20 PM
Dublin completely controlling the tempo of the game.
They know well the last thing you want playing Mayo is to get into a helter-skelter fast paced game with them.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: JoG2 on August 14, 2021, 06:44:29 PM
This game looks over, wonder why Dublin been so poor up to today.

40 odd championship wins on the bounce, they've done what they needed to do so far . Dublin are an absolute machine. Mayo without COC was always gonna be a one sided affair in fairness
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 06:44:53 PM
Terrible misses by Mayo is what is mainly missing from making this a close game.
A goal could change things.

Dublin have built a lead up and now they have just began sucking the life out of the game in the last 10 Look in absolutely no danger whatsoever.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: twohands!!! on August 14, 2021, 06:47:18 PM
Terrible misses by Mayo is what is mainly missing from making this a close game.
A goal could change things.

Dublin have built a lead up and now they have just began sucking the life out of the game in the last 10 Look in absolutely no danger whatsoever.

Dublin know Mayo will have to take more risks in the second half and space will open up more for the Dublin forwards.
Don't be surprised if Dublin have 3 or more goal chances in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 14, 2021, 06:49:55 PM
That 1st half performance by Mayo was almost a carbon copy of their 1st half performance in the Connacht final.

Dublin was very good 1st half v Meath only to fade badly 2nd half so we'll see what's in store for the 2nd half today.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 06:50:46 PM
What a non event of a match. The injuries were always going to make it difficult for Mayo, but Jesus, they're not putting up any sort of fight. All the talk has been of how this is finally the year where Dublin are there for the taking, but Mayo don't look up for it at all.

Such a weird year, people say Dublin are regressing and yet they'll be in the AI final without any sort of a challenge. And Kerry are the heir apparent in many people's eyes, and yet they haven't had a challenge either and seem like they'll not even get a semi final to play.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 14, 2021, 06:54:53 PM
I’d rather watch mayo get bet by 20 points by Kerry, at least they were good at football. This is rugby, pass around for 10 minutes, head down and charge, as many steps as you like. Free in. Clock work.

And could someone riddle me this. Last week: hill closed, stands at 25%. This week hill at 100%, the rest of the stadium at 25%.

It’d sicken you.

It's unreal. The amount of bending over backwards to please the dubs is unbelievable. It's a disgrace.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 06:57:54 PM
I’d rather watch mayo get bet by 20 points by Kerry, at least they were good at football. This is rugby, pass around for 10 minutes, head down and charge, as many steps as you like. Free in. Clock work.

And could someone riddle me this. Last week: hill closed, stands at 25%. This week hill at 100%, the rest of the stadium at 25%.

It’d sicken you.
You do realize it’s Mayo playing the shite defensive football?
Leaving Aido completely isolated. Not interested in giving him support so he could layofff. He’s never been prolific at point scoring, unreal to expect him to turn into one today.  And if he has runners then it could open up goal chances for himself, which he is good at.
Maybe Mayo will change tactics in the second half and give us the exciting game that Dubs v Mayo usually produces.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 07:01:10 PM
Aidan O’Shea having a nightmare.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 07:03:00 PM
Mayo have at least injected a bit more pace and intensity since half time. Comerford looks good from the kick outs.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 07:07:29 PM
Another great advertisement for bringing in a rule change about passing the ball backwards. Horrible stuff to watch.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: joemamas on August 14, 2021, 07:11:36 PM
Another great advertisement for bringing in a rule change about passing the ball backwards. Horrible stuff to watch.

Totally agree.
If it was not Mayo playing, I would have turned it off.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 07:12:06 PM
Absolutely brutal showing by AOS
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 07:12:23 PM
Mayo just haven't scoring forwards
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: CK_Redhand on August 14, 2021, 07:12:47 PM
How was that a yellow and not a black for O'Callaghan?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 14, 2021, 07:14:35 PM
Why do mayo always leave it until the are way behind to bring some intensity to  game. Shooting by mayo is criminal. AOS has to be one of the most overrated players in last 10 years
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 14, 2021, 07:15:24 PM
How was that a yellow and not a black for O'Callaghan?

Took the words out of my mouth. Has the black card been done away with for certain teams. T
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 07:15:50 PM
Game on now. There for Mayo if they can grab it. And stop kicking shite wides. 
Dubs need a score badly.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 14, 2021, 07:15:52 PM
Water break come at wrong time for Mayo

Dublin are there for the taking though

A Mayo goal would make it interesting
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 14, 2021, 07:16:23 PM
Absolutely brutal showing by AOS

Sort of half watchin but hes had a mare yes??
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 14, 2021, 07:16:26 PM
All to play for now. 52 mins gone Dublin 0-10 Mayo 0-7
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 07:16:44 PM
Dublin have very little to come off the bench. There’s still a chance but with Mayo it’s the hope that kills you.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: CK_Redhand on August 14, 2021, 07:18:36 PM
Small steps don't count
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 07:20:37 PM
Not side to side, plus high, that's a red card. Small was always a dirty bollix
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: armaghniac on August 14, 2021, 07:21:52 PM
Not side to side, plus high, that's a red card.

Not square. An honest attempt at a shoulder perhaps, but it did not connect square.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: clarshack on August 14, 2021, 07:22:15 PM
Very high from Small. Red card all day long.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: An Watcher on August 14, 2021, 07:22:19 PM
Shocking coverage from rte.  Let's see it ffs
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: mrdeeds on August 14, 2021, 07:22:35 PM
Awful act.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 14, 2021, 07:22:51 PM
In no word was that a fair or legal challenge. Shoulder straight to the jaw. Hope the lad is OK.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: joemamas on August 14, 2021, 07:22:59 PM
Shocking coverage from rte.  Let's see it ffs

Agreed pathetic
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: clarshack on August 14, 2021, 07:23:27 PM
Lane hasn’t helped Mayo today.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 07:24:30 PM
Replay shows hitting him mostly high with an elbow. Not remotely side to side. Kevin McStay should be ashamed of himself, wouldn't let that bollix be classified as from Mayo.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: joemamas on August 14, 2021, 07:25:08 PM
As a Mayo really passed off that Mcstay did not have the balls to call it like it was .
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: CK_Redhand on August 14, 2021, 07:25:33 PM
How was that a yellow and not a black for O'Callaghan?

Took the words out of my mouth. Has the black card been done away with for certain teams. T
And again for scully. Does the ref not know the rules?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: mrdeeds on August 14, 2021, 07:25:51 PM
Replay show high hitting him mostly high with an elbow. Not remotely side to side. Kevin McStay should be ashamed if himself, wouldn't let that bollix be classified as from Mayo.

Yeah what was he on about? Then Lane let play continue and nearly a goal with a player seriously injured on ground.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 07:26:59 PM
If Small had pulled out he’d be crucified as a coward but I thought the challenge was high since you could see him eyeing the man up. Definitely a free kick and could have been red but these things always look worse in slow motion and the fact that the Mayo player got a bad injury from it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 14, 2021, 07:29:15 PM
3 point game once again. 64 mins played Dublin 0-12 Mayo 0-9
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 07:29:44 PM
Dubs getting worse as each sub is slightly weaker than the player he replaces
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: shantygael on August 14, 2021, 07:30:51 PM
Mayo playing better without o'Se
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 07:31:27 PM
No way that was over carried. Mayo’s game if they can just grasp it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 07:32:52 PM
Christ, only 2 second half points for Dublin. Really didn't think they'd look this bad in the second half, especially given they were in a comfortable lead.

Good fightback from Mayo tbf to them, much improved on the first half. Very telling that they're doing all this after their big name O'Shea being took off, he wasn't adding much at all.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: RedHand88 on August 14, 2021, 07:33:24 PM
Tyrone would have beat Dublin.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 14, 2021, 07:34:16 PM
Lead down to 1 point. Dublin 0-12 Mayo 0-11. 7 minutes added.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: shantygael on August 14, 2021, 07:36:54 PM
Tyrone would have beat Dublin.
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Aye,for positive  results
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 07:39:10 PM
Incredible cynicism from the Dublin man there, how on earth is that not a black card
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 07:39:25 PM
Definite black for Byrne I thought.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 07:39:42 PM
Conor Lane been a f**king joke today
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Nanderson on August 14, 2021, 07:39:56 PM
A jersey tug is only a tick offence. Not a black card
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 07:40:18 PM
Dublin incredibly rattled
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: CK_Redhand on August 14, 2021, 07:40:26 PM
3 blacks and a red now missed / ignored by ref
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 07:41:12 PM
Shows what teams can do if they put pressure on the team in possession. It’s not easy to play keep ball unless you let it be easy.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Nanderson on August 14, 2021, 07:41:41 PM
3 blacks and a red now missed / ignored by ref
Last one was cynical but its not a black card
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 07:42:30 PM
Some stones on Hennelly there tbf
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 14, 2021, 07:43:30 PM
0-13 each. Extra time to be played
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 14, 2021, 07:43:59 PM
Never want to hear about tyrone being a dirty team again. That Dublin team is a disgrace with their antics and the ref is joke
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: laoislad on August 14, 2021, 07:44:31 PM
Never want to hear about tyrone being a dirty team again. That Dublin team is a disgrace with their antics and the ref is joke
Why do you f**kers have to bring Tyrone into every f**king conversation?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: RedHand88 on August 14, 2021, 07:44:39 PM
Never want to hear about tyrone being a dirty team again. That Dublin team is a disgrace with their antics and the ref is joke
For a team that has played some wonderful football in the last decade, Dublin in their decline are behaving like absolute tramps.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: CK_Redhand on August 14, 2021, 07:44:59 PM
Ref blows it up 90 seconds early. Doing everything to keep Dublin in the championship
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 07:45:00 PM
Diarmuid took a right dive, but fully deserved draw for Mayo. Dubs very poor. Mayo might do us a favour to avoid a Kerry hammering.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: clarshack on August 14, 2021, 07:45:06 PM
James McCarthy struck off the ball there at the end.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 07:45:08 PM
Some kick by Hennelly Dublin can’t live with Mayo intensity. Dubs look completely rattled now.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 14, 2021, 07:45:25 PM
The empire is crumbling.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: RedHand88 on August 14, 2021, 07:45:31 PM
Never want to hear about tyrone being a dirty team again. That Dublin team is a disgrace with their antics and the ref is joke

+1. This is f***ing disgraceful.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 07:45:34 PM
Why the fcuk is Tyrone getting brought up multiple times here, nothing to do with this game
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: armaghniac on August 14, 2021, 07:45:48 PM
Never want to hear about tyrone being a dirty team again. That Dublin team is a disgrace with their antics and the ref is joke

They likely watched Tyrone videos, but not in a poorly ventilated video room.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 07:46:03 PM
A jersey tug is only a tick offence. Not a black card
Bizarre so many people still don’t get this. A deliberate pull back vs a deliberate pull down. 

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2021, 07:46:05 PM
I’m the best part of a decade defending Robbie Hennelly to the death, oh my god my heart

I can’t handle this 😂
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 07:46:12 PM
Dublin have got to be a unlikeable bunch
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: mrdeeds on August 14, 2021, 07:46:33 PM
Dublin filthy and cynical. Disgraceful. Horrible.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: laoislad on August 14, 2021, 07:46:44 PM
Why the fcuk is Tyrone getting brought up multiple times here, nothing to do with this game
+1
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2021, 07:46:46 PM
Dublin have got a unlikely bunch

I assume you meant unlikable?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 14, 2021, 07:46:53 PM
Tyrone would have beat Dublin.

Fantastic match and some gipe still has time to bring Trone into it
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: clarshack on August 14, 2021, 07:47:39 PM
Would Mayo have the legs on the Dubs for extra time?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: CK_Redhand on August 14, 2021, 07:47:56 PM
A jersey tug is only a tick offence. Not a black card
Bizarre so many people still don’t get this. A deliberate pull back vs a deliberate pull down.
I saw an off the ball foul but didn't see if it was a jersey tug or pull down. Apologies.

Explain the red and other 2 blacks for me.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Nanderson on August 14, 2021, 07:47:59 PM
A jersey tug is only a tick offence. Not a black card
Bizarre so many people still don’t get this. A deliberate pull back vs a deliberate pull down.
Grinds my gears. Just because a player ends up on the ground doesn't make it a black card
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: SouthDublinBro on August 14, 2021, 07:48:26 PM
Mayo playing better without o'Se

 :-X Can't question the talisman. Sure he clawed them back himself from his sheer aura on the bench.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 14, 2021, 07:48:47 PM
Never want to hear about tyrone being a dirty team again. That Dublin team is a disgrace with their antics and the ref is joke
Why do you f**kers have to bring Tyrone into every f**king conversation?

Because every single incident tyrone are involved in is broadcasted and called out. In this game there has been a player taken off to hospital, 3 black carss missed. A strike to the throat and constant off the ball fouling.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 07:49:14 PM
Is there any fball left in Philly McMahon, cause he just in there to shit stir.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: laoislad on August 14, 2021, 07:49:37 PM
Never want to hear about tyrone being a dirty team again. That Dublin team is a disgrace with their antics and the ref is joke
Why do you f**kers have to bring Tyrone into every f**king conversation?

Because every single incident tyrone are involved in is broadcasted and called out. In this game there has been a player taken off to hospital, 3 black carss missed. A strike to the throat and constant off the ball fouling.
Nobody cares.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 14, 2021, 07:49:59 PM
Level game like the poll on this thread. Dublin faded badly in that 2nd half much like they did v Meath. Made a number of unforced errors in that 2nd half and Mayo grew in confidence with every error they made.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 07:50:12 PM
Kerry will be happiest of all watching that match, they will easily handle either of these teams in the final. Mayo have not even played well yet somehow have got a draw. You would think given the shenanigans with the other fixture that a replay would have been the sensible decision.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Nanderson on August 14, 2021, 07:50:36 PM
A jersey tug is only a tick offence. Not a black card
Bizarre so many people still don’t get this. A deliberate pull back vs a deliberate pull down.
I saw an off the ball foul but didn't see if it was a jersey tug or pull down. Apologies.

Explain the red and other 2 blacks for me.
Con yellow was exact same as byrnes, just a pull of the player off the ball. That shoulder was a red all day. Didnt see the scully one
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 14, 2021, 07:50:47 PM
Never want to hear about tyrone being a dirty team again. That Dublin team is a disgrace with their antics and the ref is joke
Why do you f**kers have to bring Tyrone into every f**king conversation?

Because every single incident tyrone are involved in is broadcasted and called out. In this game there has been a player taken off to hospital, 3 black carss missed. A strike to the throat and constant off the ball fouling.
Nobody cares.

Clearly you do as you replied.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: clarshack on August 14, 2021, 07:50:59 PM
Never want to hear about tyrone being a dirty team again. That Dublin team is a disgrace with their antics and the ref is joke
Why do you f**kers have to bring Tyrone into every f**king conversation?

Because every single incident tyrone are involved in is broadcasted and called out. In this game there has been a player taken off to hospital, 3 black carss missed. A strike to the throat and constant off the ball fouling.
Nobody cares.

Nobody cares about Laois either.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 14, 2021, 07:51:55 PM
Dublin dirt that half was unreal, but unfortunately and rather incredibly missed by the ref.

But fair play to Mayo. Unreal half. But Dublin really bottling it like they haven’t done in a decade.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 07:53:00 PM
Would Mayo have the legs on the Dubs for extra time?

Based on the second half it’s Dublin who can’t live with Mayos physical intensity. Perhaps it’s just good old fashioned desire but they looked much the hungrier team. They had nothing to lose up until now but now they have to go try and win it which is another story altogether.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: laoislad on August 14, 2021, 07:53:32 PM
Never want to hear about tyrone being a dirty team again. That Dublin team is a disgrace with their antics and the ref is joke
Why do you f**kers have to bring Tyrone into every f**king conversation?

Because every single incident tyrone are involved in is broadcasted and called out. In this game there has been a player taken off to hospital, 3 black carss missed. A strike to the throat and constant off the ball fouling.
Nobody cares.

Nobody cares about Laois either.
I couldn’t care less if you do or not that’s the difference  ;D
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: bennydorano on August 14, 2021, 07:54:26 PM
A jersey tug is only a tick offence. Not a black card
Bizarre so many people still don’t get this. A deliberate pull back vs a deliberate pull down.
Grinds my gears. Just because a player ends up on the ground doesn't make it a black card
Balls, cycnical
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 07:54:58 PM
Mayo a tad lucky to get a re-take for the last free
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tintin25 on August 14, 2021, 07:56:06 PM
Mayo a tad lucky to get a re-take for the last free

Definitely - Dublin player nowhere near him
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 07:57:00 PM
A jersey tug is only a tick offence. Not a black card
Bizarre so many people still don’t get this. A deliberate pull back vs a deliberate pull down.
I saw an off the ball foul but didn't see if it was a jersey tug or pull down. Apologies.

Explain the red and other 2 blacks for me.
Con yellow was exact same as byrnes, just a pull of the player off the ball. That shoulder was a red all day. Didnt see the scully one
Correct. And in fairness most people watching it first time (incl commentators on both channels) thought it was shoulder to shoulder on first viewing.
50/50s went with Mayo after that.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 14, 2021, 07:57:24 PM
Mayo experiencing what it’s like to be reffed in South Armagh by a South Armagh ref.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 07:57:40 PM
Mayo a tad lucky to get a re-take for the last free

Classic example of a referee trying to compensate for earlier mistakes and evening it up.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Jules on August 14, 2021, 07:58:08 PM
Dublin forgot that the objective is to put the ball over the bar. Trying to play a different game and got caught up in trying to pass the time out. Horrible to watch.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: shantygael on August 14, 2021, 08:01:30 PM
Wrong call on basquel
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 08:01:49 PM
Great chance now for Mayo need to make this advantage count.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 08:03:18 PM
He, walked across the guys run but again he could say that was the direction he was naturally going. He meant it but a debatable black,
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 08:05:15 PM
Mayo had played any in the first half, would they seen the game out in normal time.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 14, 2021, 08:05:24 PM
All the momemtum with Mayo now they lead by 3. Dublin 0-14 Mayo 0-17
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: RedHand88 on August 14, 2021, 08:05:49 PM
This is incredible.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 08:06:03 PM
Dublin looked cooked.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 08:06:33 PM
Not yet, they always good for a goal.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 08:06:55 PM
Dubs are done. Time to reset and beg McCaffrey and Mannion to come back next year!
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 08:07:06 PM
Need score a few more with the man up.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: laoislad on August 14, 2021, 08:08:40 PM
Dubs are done. Time to reset and beg McCaffrey and Mannion to come back next year!
Or forget about the Football and concentrate on the Hurling?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 14, 2021, 08:10:46 PM
Half time in extra time. Dublin 0-14 Mayo 0-17.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: lenny on August 14, 2021, 08:11:07 PM
Dubs are done. Time to reset and beg McCaffrey and Mannion to come back next year!

And cluxton
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 08:11:17 PM
Fair play Mayo, they made the extra man count and rattled off a few on the trot.

Think Dublin will need a goal the way they're going, Mayo just need to keep it tight and keep up that intensity
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 08:11:39 PM
Pure athleticism and physical aggression has got Mayo back into this. Just have to avoid stage fright now and theyll be the team to take down the invincibles. Let’s hope so.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 08:11:49 PM
Cooper off injured early in 2nd half was a big loss. He was our organizer. Been at sea since.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 08:13:05 PM
Dubs are done. Time to reset and beg McCaffrey and Mannion to come back next year!
Or forget about the Football and concentrate on the Hurling?
Con, CKK and Costello would make a fine FF line for the hurlers alright. 🙃
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Eire90 on August 14, 2021, 08:13:37 PM
wtf rte player suddenly says game cant be showing due to rights restrictions so show all the game and first peroid of extra time then says cant show due to rights
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 14, 2021, 08:15:44 PM
Paddy small is nothing but a tr**p in this game. That was a strike.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: clarshack on August 14, 2021, 08:15:51 PM
That should have been another red for Dublin.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 08:16:18 PM
Kevin McStay, please f**k off, a punch to the face accidental or not a red card.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 08:16:34 PM
That should have been another red for Dublin.

Exact same as Diarmuid O’Connors. Neither a red card.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 08:16:46 PM
Dubs have a huge challenge to overcome now, and I can't see it the way they're playing. Looking seriously rattled - aimless passing, poor tackling etc, all things you wouldn't associate with recent Dublin teams.

If Mayo can keep a clean sheet, they should have this in the bag.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: mrdeeds on August 14, 2021, 08:17:26 PM
That should have been another red for Dublin.

Exact same as Diarmuid O’Connors. Neither a red card.

Wasn't the same. Closed fist.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 08:19:13 PM
That should have been another red for Dublin.

Exact same as Diarmuid O’Connors. Neither a red card.
Exactly. 
Bizarre the absolute nonsense that people come up with.
Are they not happy enough that the Dubs are finallly bet?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: MK on August 14, 2021, 08:19:21 PM
Dubs are done. Time to reset and beg McCaffrey and Mannion to come back next year!

And cluxton
And Jim Gavin.

Dessies future not looking good....looks like Cluxton's decision was 100% correct
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 08:20:49 PM
Mayo have outscored Dublin 0-12 to 0-4 since O'Shea was subbed off
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 14, 2021, 08:21:53 PM
That should have been another red for Dublin.

Exact same as Diarmuid O’Connors. Neither a red card.
Exactly. 
Bizarre the absolute nonsense that people come up with.
Are they not happy enough that the Dubs are finallly bet?

How was it anywhere near similar. Dub player was bending down and got challenged. A mayo player was standing up and got high challenge with a closed fist which hit him in the jaw.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 08:21:58 PM
Bit of a John Terry moment coming for Aido. Can bask in the glory of the achievements of others.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 08:22:42 PM
Keegan has been awesome. Thought he was near finished. But oh no!
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 08:23:14 PM
Mayo have played like savages unbelievable intensity levels. Keegan and the entire defence have been immense.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: David McKeown on August 14, 2021, 08:23:49 PM
3 minutes in a 10 minute period.  Its like seeing 11 minutes at the end of a second half
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 08:24:33 PM
McCarthy right in front of the ref, absolutely brainless from such an experienced player

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 08:25:24 PM
The run is finally over. It was a slow death tbf
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: RedHand88 on August 14, 2021, 08:25:49 PM
This is absolutely disgraceful from Dublin. They are terrible terrible losers. Pure dirt.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: armaghniac on August 14, 2021, 08:26:00 PM
I thought it was Tyrone who wasn't going to show up at the semi, are Mayo out in sympathy?

I am taking the unusual step of replying to my own post.
Mayo showed up in style, they were just a bit late arriving.

Well done Mayo, well deserved. And to do it with players missing and your captain not having a good day is an even greater measure of Mayo.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 14, 2021, 08:26:18 PM
Well done Mayo.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 14, 2021, 08:26:34 PM
McCarthy right in front of the ref, absolutely brainless from such an experienced player

Shows how class less some of these dubs are. First time they are beaten and they act like thugs.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 14, 2021, 08:26:44 PM
Thats the Dublin dominance over, fitting that Mayo took them out. FT Dublin 0-14 Mayo 0-17.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on August 14, 2021, 08:27:31 PM
Congratulations to all the Mayo posters on here.  Now for god's sake go on and win the thing.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: clarshack on August 14, 2021, 08:27:55 PM
So Fenton finally loses a championship game.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 08:28:31 PM
End of an era unbelievable hunger and the subs made a massive impact.  Brilliant for Mayo hope they can win it now.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Nanderson on August 14, 2021, 08:28:46 PM
Dublin players will be have to look for full time jobs now and find a new car to buy
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: laoislad on August 14, 2021, 08:28:51 PM
Split Mayo in two.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tonto1888 on August 14, 2021, 08:29:02 PM
That was quite the shock
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 14, 2021, 08:29:13 PM
Jaysus if they dont win it now......

Congrats. Huge performance
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 08:29:44 PM
Have to eat my own words from the first half, I really didn't see any way back for Mayo then, but tbf to them they put in a hell of a performance since. It was a right hammering over the last 55 minutes, Dublin were non existent. Dublin didn't exactly go down with grace either, a fairly dirty and cynical showing from the second half onward.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on August 14, 2021, 08:29:51 PM
Superb Mayo! Heroic. Now go and beat Kerry(if it is to be Kerry).

Fair play to the Dubs too, end of a long run but what a run. They'll be back soon enough I suspect.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: pbat on August 14, 2021, 08:30:17 PM
Problem Horan has now is that to win the All Ireland he has to drop his captain.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Eire90 on August 14, 2021, 08:30:49 PM
Dublin still a good team and still capable of winning next years all ireland
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 08:31:30 PM
Would really love to see Mayo go on and finish the job now, it would be the most Mayo thing ever to end Dublin's historic run, only to lose to Kerry again. Still think it's an awful tough task for them, but with that sort of heart they showed today, who knows honestly.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2021, 08:32:14 PM
Problem Horan has now is that to win the All Ireland he has to drop his captain.

It's shocking how much better Mayo played when O'Shea was taken off, he wasn't offering anything when he was on the pitch.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 08:32:16 PM
Congrats to each and every one of the Mayo supporters on here.

Enjoy the celebrations! 

What a performance by Keegan
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 14, 2021, 08:32:19 PM
Congratulations to all the Mayo posters on here.  Now for god's sake go on and win the thing.

+1
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: RedHand88 on August 14, 2021, 08:32:23 PM
Dublin still a good team and still capable of winning next years all ireland

Meh. Not convinced. They had no good performances this year.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tonto1888 on August 14, 2021, 08:32:26 PM
Would really love to see Mayo go on and finish the job now, it would be the most Mayo thing ever to end Dublin's historic run, only to lose to Kerry again. Still think it's an awful tough task for them, but with that sort of heart they showed today, who knows honestly.

Like Cullyhanna beating cross in the Armagh semi final and losing the final a few years ago
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Capt Pat on August 14, 2021, 08:32:52 PM
Well done to Mayo but this is not the final, they still have to get over Kerry.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 14, 2021, 08:33:05 PM
The false empire built on Bertie's corruption and privilege has crumbled at last. Back to your soccer
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: HiMucker on August 14, 2021, 08:34:17 PM
Padraig O'Hora! Some confidence there in that interview. Great to see. Hope they go and do it now.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 14, 2021, 08:34:34 PM
McCarthy right in front of the ref, absolutely brainless from such an experienced player

Shows how class less some of these dubs are. First time they are beaten and they act like thugs.

Dublin behaved and played like Dublin of the late 90’s/early 2000’s.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 14, 2021, 08:35:26 PM
Well done to Mayo but this is not the final, they still have to get over Kerry.

Or Tyrone.

Oops, mentioned them again  :-[
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: From the Bunker on August 14, 2021, 08:39:13 PM
Fair due to all the Mayo Posters who called today's result.

I could not for the life of me see it coming.

Sometimes it's great to be wrong!  ;D
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: RedHand88 on August 14, 2021, 08:40:22 PM
Fair due to all the Mayo Posters who called today's result.

I could not for the life of me see it coming.

Sometimes it's great to be wrong!  ;D

Congratulations! Now please win the thing, unless Tyrone do manage to make it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 08:41:01 PM
Well done to Mayo but this is not the final, they still have to get over Kerry.

Jeez let them enjoy the moment that’s for another day. Ended an empire.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 14, 2021, 08:42:17 PM
Congrats to the Mayo supporters, throughly deserved victory.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Thastheball on August 14, 2021, 08:43:05 PM
Mayo a tad lucky to get a re-take for the last free

Great result, but how this has not been highlighted beggars belief, no way was he interfered with to merit a retake. Thought the ref was shocking. Still great to see Mayo being the team to stop Dublin. Its only right it was them.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 14, 2021, 08:45:15 PM
Fair due to all the Mayo Posters who called today's result.

I could not for the life of me see it coming.

Sometimes it's great to be wrong!  ;D

If you watched a handful of Dublins games this year you would have seen Dublin was there for the taking. Credit to Mayo took the bull by the horns and got the job done.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 14, 2021, 08:46:44 PM
I’d rather watch mayo get bet by 20 points by Kerry, at least they were good at football. This is rugby, pass around for 10 minutes, head down and charge, as many steps as you like. Free in. Clock work.

And could someone riddle me this. Last week: hill closed, stands at 25%. This week hill at 100%, the rest of the stadium at 25%.

It’d sicken you.
Absolutely great to see the Dubs beat. Double standards are a joke
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: bridgegael on August 14, 2021, 08:47:00 PM
Mayo a tad lucky to get a re-take for the last free

Great result, but how this has not been highlighted beggars belief, no way was he interfered with to merit a retake. Thought the ref was shocking. Still great to see Mayo being the team to stop Dublin. Its only right it was them.

As he was running up to take it, the ref ran towards him with hand up to stop him from taking it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: rodney trotter on August 14, 2021, 08:50:45 PM
Great win for Mayo. Tommy Conroy and O Donoghue stepped up and kicked some great scores.

Dublin discipline really poor. The  Small brothers both could have got red
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on August 14, 2021, 08:51:12 PM
Well done to Mayo, showed tremendous character to win that after the 1st half performance.  Horan has had some dubious days on the line in CP but credit to him today, he made a few big calls there today and mostly all for the better. 
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: CK_Redhand on August 14, 2021, 08:51:42 PM
Mayo a tad lucky to get a re-take for the last free

Great result, but how this has not been highlighted beggars belief, no way was he interfered with to merit a retake. Thought the ref was shocking. Still great to see Mayo being the team to stop Dublin. Its only right it was them.

As he was running up to take it, the ref ran towards him with hand up to stop him from taking it.
No mention on rte of it being blown up 90 seconds early. Mayo might have got a couple of lucky calls but bad decisions went mostly in Dublin's favour
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 14, 2021, 08:51:57 PM
Philly McMahon comes on and costs Dublin the game with his shite antics. The world is healing.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2021, 08:55:08 PM
Nice kick up the whole for Aidan OShea there
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thejuice on August 14, 2021, 08:55:15 PM
I guess the Meath game wasn’t a mirage.

Its clearly a deliberate tactic to contain Dublin for the first half and then push up on them and up the tempo. Dublins wider panels inexperience in these sorts of pressure situations showed itself. James McCarthy at the end for the 45 is hard to understand. The ball was still going in and he was throwing knees into his opponent. Madness.

Referees performance was not the best but there was a lot of cynical stuff going on to make it hard for him.

I’d put Kerry as strong favourites but they haven’t been tested yet in the championship so far.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 08:55:32 PM
The body count will be high after that match but those Mayo players were warriors today. Conroy came of age in the last half hour and O’Donoghue stepped up as well. Hopefully Eoin McLoughlin is ok and it was just a concussion.

Are Cillian O’Connor and Mullin gone for the season?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 14, 2021, 08:55:40 PM
Philly McMahon comes on and costs Dublin the game with his shite antics. The world is healing.

Was thinking that myself. You’d have to be p!ssed’s of with him if you were a dub.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 08:57:50 PM
The Dubs bench was really poor. If that’s the level of player coming through then I don’t see Dublin winning All Ireland’s over the next few years. Cluxton seen it coming.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Main Street on August 14, 2021, 08:59:34 PM
Power play from Mayo all the way, brilliant to watch.
The Dubs just need more funding from Central, parachute money.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: reddgnhand on August 14, 2021, 09:00:06 PM
Well done Mayo fantastic performance and hats off to Dublin will we ever see the likes again.What they have achieved has been unreal. They will still win a few more of that there's no doubt.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: bennydorano on August 14, 2021, 09:03:55 PM
Well done to Mayo but this is not the final, they still have to get over Kerry.
Uneasy is the head that wears the crown.

Delighted for Mayo but I would fancy Kerry very strongly, would be delighted to proven wrong.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 14, 2021, 09:06:36 PM
From a long way out there was shades of a 2012 about that semi-final. Mayo was able to afford a fairly average 1st half and still exploit the clear weakness with that Dublin team that was clearly visible after their performances in this years Leinster championship.

As for the final and if its Kerry I would expect Mayo will have a big plan in place to curb the influence of the two Cliffords and Sean O'Shea and the Kerry defence can be got at so Mayo have a real fighting chance to finally land Sam Maguire.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 09:07:19 PM
Well done to Mayo but this is not the final, they still have to get over Kerry.
Uneasy is the head that wears the crown.

Delighted for Mayo but I would fancy Kerry very strongly, would be delighted to proven wrong.

Kerry will be strong favourites, I think when the dust settles most people will see that. However Mayo will gain great confidence and energy from that performance. It’s a much more appealing spectacle for a neutral than watching Dublin suck the life out of the game through long spells of aimless possession. The best defence up against the best attack.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 14, 2021, 09:13:39 PM
Mayo have a first half like that and the Cliffords and O’Shea and co will have the game out of sight. Bring what they did later in the game and they have every chance. Would love to see them do it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: SouthDublinBro on August 14, 2021, 09:14:15 PM
Better team won on the day. Good luck to Mayo in the final. Kerry CAN'T be allowed to win Sam playing just 3 games.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Rossfan on August 14, 2021, 09:17:46 PM
Didn't see that coming at ht.
Dublin seem to only have a half of football in them these days.
The neighbours plodded away and fair play never gave up.
Weren't flattered by the margin.
If they only had a few forwards they'd be some team.

PS if ye have no Ballaghs on the 26 ye'll win Sam ;)
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Fionntamhnach on August 14, 2021, 09:21:10 PM
Comhghairdeas Mhaigh Eo.End of an era for the Dubs IMO.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 14, 2021, 09:21:52 PM
Well done to Mayo but this is not the final, they still have to get over Kerry.
Uneasy is the head that wears the crown.

Delighted for Mayo but I would fancy Kerry very strongly, would be delighted to proven wrong.

Kerry will be strong favourites, I think when the dust settles most people will see that. However Mayo will gain great confidence and energy from that performance. It’s a much more appealing spectacle for a neutral than watching Dublin suck the life out of the game through long spells of aimless possession. The best defence up against the best attack.

Shouldn't be strong favourites, any team that are good enough to take out Dublin will be well noted by the punters.

Team with the best defence is normally what wins the majority of All Ireland finals.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thewobbler on August 14, 2021, 09:23:25 PM
Fucken yes, yes, yes
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: grounded on August 14, 2021, 09:26:14 PM
Well done Mayo. Hope they go all the way now.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 14, 2021, 09:27:15 PM
Philly McMahon comes on and costs Dublin the game with his shite antics. The world is healing.

Was thinking that myself. You’d have to be p!ssed’s of with him if you were a dub.

Been a long time coming. Before the throw in for the start of extra time he was caught in camera nipping a mayo man who then returned the favour. Phily was then shouting at the ref showing him what happened to him. Horrendous man on the pitch.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: clarshack on August 14, 2021, 09:27:37 PM
I’d say Cluxton will come out now and say he retired before the start of the championship.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: weareros on August 14, 2021, 09:37:13 PM
Amazing performance by Mayo and big congrats to all from the Plains of the Yews. Fitting really that they were the team to bring Dublin’s reign to an end, given that they were their only real rival during that time. Dublin were super champions, but you could see the class of subs coming on were nowhere near the level of the past. Horan has done some job rebuilding Mayo. I see all-Ireland as 50/50 given the strength of Mayo’s backs against a potent Kerry forward line (assuming no semi goes ahead).
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Rudi on August 14, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2021, 09:49:19 PM
No man has gotten more stick, from our fans and other. But he’s showed up and performed year in and out. Well we wouldn’t be in a final without him today. Three gargantuan points and not a stray kickout all day.

Round of applause for Hennelly today 👏🏻💚❤️
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 14, 2021, 09:51:40 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

I never thought he was great. A vastly overrated player. When the chips were down, he was nowhere to be found.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: mrdeeds on August 14, 2021, 09:53:00 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

I never thought he was great. A vastly overrated player. When the chips were down, he was nowhere to be found.

Ah lads as much as I'm happy to see Mayo winning don't rewrite History. Today was his first championship loss.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 10:07:25 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

I never thought he was great. A vastly overrated player. When the chips were down, he was nowhere to be found.

Judging a players merit on one match is not being fair. By any metric Fenton has been the outstanding midfield player of his generation most rational observers will see that. Just another example of anti Dubs bias clouding somebody’s judgement. It’s understandable that the country revel in the Dubs defeat but I think this group of players will only get the credit they deserve in years to come. Right now it’s just very good for Gaelic football that they were beaten.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Rudi on August 14, 2021, 10:07:48 PM
No man has gotten more stick, from our fans and other. But he’s showed up and performed year in and out. Well we wouldn’t be in a final without him today. Three gargantuan points and not a stray kickout all day.

Round of applause for Hennelly today 👏🏻💚❤️

I was in Castlebar the night we beat Mayo, Hennelly had a bad evening. The Mayo fans reaction  to him was disgusting, I felt bad for him. Tonight he can have his head held high.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: reddgnhand on August 14, 2021, 10:10:14 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

I never thought he was great. A vastly overrated player. When the chips were down, he was nowhere to be found.

Ah lads as much as I'm happy to see Mayo winning don't rewrite History. Today was his first championship loss.

Had to laugh at this shite. He's a fantastic footballer. I'd love to have the medals that lad has and be called underrated.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: joemamas on August 14, 2021, 10:19:11 PM
Congrats to the Mayo supporters, throughly deserved victory.

Thanks
Shocked especially after the first half.
You always provide honest and interesting blogs on Galway, unlike some of new WUM.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 14, 2021, 10:32:23 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

I never thought he was great. A vastly overrated player. When the chips were down, he was nowhere to be found.

Judging a players merit on one match is not being fair. By any metric Fenton has been the outstanding midfield player of his generation most rational observers will see that. Just another example of anti Dubs bias clouding somebody’s judgement. It’s understandable that the country revel in the Dubs defeat but I think this group of players will only get the credit they deserve in years to come. Right now it’s just very good for Gaelic football that they were beaten.

It’s not based on one match. I always thought he was overrated.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: joemamas on August 14, 2021, 10:33:16 PM
On an amusing note, I live in NY suburbs
New neighbors moved in today, no idea who they are, not Irish anyhow.
They must think I am certifiable
TV room nearest one to their house, volume was at about 99
and my wife informed after the game that she could hear me outside yelling over the TV,
Both moving company workers and the new neighbors game more than a few worried glances.
Only time I missed a Mayo All Ireland was last December.
Been a lot of trips home, a lot of longer trips back,
Still so happy to be part of the Long Journey, and to be able to support our wonderful warriors, especially over the last ten years.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: reddgnhand on August 14, 2021, 10:35:07 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

I never thought he was great. A vastly overrated player. When the chips were down, he was nowhere to be found.

Judging a players merit on one match is not being fair. By any metric Fenton has been the outstanding midfield player of his generation most rational observers will see that. Just another example of anti Dubs bias clouding somebody’s judgement. It’s understandable that the country revel in the Dubs defeat but I think this group of players will only get the credit they deserve in years to come. Right now it’s just very good for Gaelic football that they were beaten.

It’s not based on one match. I always thought he was overrated.
Based on what?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Sportacus on August 14, 2021, 10:36:41 PM
Delighted for Hennelly.  He’s a really good goalkeeper.  Why did James McCarthy throw his man to the ground when they lumped in the 45 needing a goal.  Why concede an obvious free out?  For a man with so much experience I can’t fathom why he did that.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 14, 2021, 10:40:43 PM
Delighted for Hennelly.  He’s a really good goalkeeper.  Why did James McCarthy throw his man to the ground when they lumped in the 45 needing a goal.  Why concede an obvious free out?  For a man with so much experience I can’t fathom why he did that.

Couldn't understand it or why the Dublin players sarcastically clapped at the ref. Even he couldn't ignore it as it was right in front of him
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 14, 2021, 10:46:55 PM
No man has gotten more stick, from our fans and other. But he’s showed up and performed year in and out. Well we wouldn’t be in a final without him today. Three gargantuan points and not a stray kickout all day.

Round of applause for Hennelly today 👏🏻💚❤️
Just came on here to post the same thing. Clean sheet and showed some balls the kick the equaliser there. Fair play to him he deserves plenty of praise tonight.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: omagh_gael on August 14, 2021, 10:47:31 PM
Best moment of the match? O'Connor's sliding volley back to McLaughlin for his point. The most Mayo score ever!
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Blowitupref on August 14, 2021, 10:53:00 PM
Best moment of the match? O'Connor's sliding volley back to McLaughlin for his point. The most Mayo score ever!

It was one of game changing moments of the contest.


 (https://ibb.co/52gnG3W)
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 10:56:38 PM
Just hearing O’Horas interview, that man should be captain. He was the definition of a warrior today.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thewobbler on August 14, 2021, 11:02:32 PM
One of the best players I’ve ever seen, changed that game tonight by himself. Keegan went to a sort of 6, sort of 11, position at half time and drove Mayo through sheer will. Apparently done, apparently playing corner back because Mayo had nobody else, he just picked it up and ran with it.

Mayo defeated the greatest team of all time because of him. Their best forward out for the season. Their superstar defender injured beforehand. Their other talisman stunk the place out and thankfully Horan had the sense to replace him.  And unfazed, Keegan kept driving them on and on.

Like every team in history, Dublin just weren’t the same when they weren’t in control. Much as I’m delighted to see them finally dethroned, honestly I’m still in awe of them. They play perfect football. But Mayo just kind of fucked on perfect. By sheer will.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: omagh_gael on August 14, 2021, 11:05:15 PM
Just watched the Hennelly 45, can't for the life of me see how that was retaken? Someone said earlier that Lane was moving towards him to tell Jim to wait, that's not true. Also, commentators saying McMahon ran across the ball, that was well before he kicked it. Any minor scuffle off camera was way behind Hennelly.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 11:10:16 PM
Just watched the Hennelly 45, can't for the life of me see how that was retaken? Someone said earlier that Lane was moving towards him to tell Jim to wait, that's not true. Also, commentators saying McMahon ran across the ball, that was well before he kicked it. Any minor scuffle off camera was way behind Hennelly.

There was no infringement, it was a classic case of a referee trying to atone for his previous errors. Thankfully he did order a retake though. He also should have played at least another minute but copped out as the game was getting out of control after the McCarthy swipe. Poor day out for Lane but it was still the right result.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 14, 2021, 11:11:46 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

I never thought he was great. A vastly overrated player. When the chips were down, he was nowhere to be found.

Judging a players merit on one match is not being fair. By any metric Fenton has been the outstanding midfield player of his generation most rational observers will see that. Just another example of anti Dubs bias clouding somebody’s judgement. It’s understandable that the country revel in the Dubs defeat but I think this group of players will only get the credit they deserve in years to come. Right now it’s just very good for Gaelic football that they were beaten.

It’s not based on one match. I always thought he was overrated.
Based on what?

Uh, my opinion
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thewobbler on August 14, 2021, 11:15:37 PM
Lane kind of proved the problems with football in a nutshell. 15 v 14 is unfair. A man getting cleaned out off the ball is part of the game. The right rules, even three-quarter commonsense rules, say to let it roll. But when a team thinks they can do itv repeatedly without punishment then it’s unfair. Which is why the black card was invented.

Refs don’t want to change the course of a game. But eventually they have to step in.

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thewobbler on August 14, 2021, 11:16:42 PM
Fenton is probably the greatest player of all time m.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: mrdeeds on August 14, 2021, 11:23:49 PM
Fenton is probably the greatest player of all time m.

Yeah I agree and I'm no Dublin fan.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 11:28:29 PM
Fenton is probably the greatest player of all time m.

As a midfielder he’s the best I’ve seen anyway.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2021, 11:40:20 PM
G seriously, I remember seeing Jack O'Shea and he was better than Fenton, Don't think he get too much change out of Anthony Tohill either.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: sidelineball on August 14, 2021, 11:53:25 PM
Never want to hear about tyrone being a dirty team again. That Dublin team is a disgrace with their antics and the ref is joke

They likely watched Tyrone videos, but not in a poorly ventilated video room.

Armagh followed Covid protocols?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 14, 2021, 11:55:28 PM
Fenton is probably the greatest player of all time m.

As a midfielder he’s the best I’ve seen anyway.
I’d like to thank both you guys for your rational and impartial analysis today. 

I was mainly watching Sky’s coverage and just caught O’Hora’s interview now. As some of the Mayo lads may remember, I’ve been a big fan of O’Hora even before he became a starter for Mayo. His interview was absolute gold. He’s an example of what makes this the very best game of all.

Bizarre as it may sound, Mayo are my second fav team, and I’ve zero family connection. But they play proper football. Apart from the first half today, when they played more defensive than I’ve ever seen them!  But from minute 36 on, they reverted to type and had too much for us. A couple of lucky breaks perhaps, but I can’t begrudge them that after the OGs and post hitting of the past. They were certainly due one!

You’ll be up against it in the final, but no harm going in as underdogs. Just don’t get any more injuries in training!


Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: dublin7 on August 15, 2021, 12:02:21 AM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

If Basquel scores that goal at the start of the 2nd half the game is done, but all year dubs have been doing things and making errors they never made before. They tried to play keep ball but Mayo pushed up on them and before they new it they were being over run by a far hungrier team.

Despite their struggles all over the pitch from the 2nd half onwards( Rudi's f**king ignorance & Dublin bitterness aside) Brian Fenton was immense tonight and had one of his best ever games in a Dublin jersey. That was an awesome display by him and at times he was the one Dublin player carrying the fight to Mayo.

That was a great win for Mayo tonight and their fans/players should enjoy the victory (especially the fan who backed a draw over 70min at 40-1 and put a tenner on it)

I'd fear for Mayo in the final though. 13 points in 70min won't be anywhere close enough to beat Kerry and Comerford in the goal didn't have a save to make. Without goals that Mayo side won't beat Kerry and after finally beating Dublin they need to push on. Unfortunately for them tonight was only a semi final and no trophies were handed out tonight
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 15, 2021, 12:02:37 AM
There’s very few things players on that Dublin team today I have time for but Fenton is just extraordinary. Once in a lifetime talent. There was one ball he was plucked out of the sky that had me thinking the comeback was dead in the water
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: sidelineball on August 15, 2021, 12:04:28 AM
Split Mayo in two.

I bet this seemed very funny in your head “Laois”lad
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thewobbler on August 15, 2021, 12:16:19 AM
There’s very few things players on that Dublin team today I have time for but Fenton is just extraordinary. Once in a lifetime talent. There was one ball he was plucked out of the sky that had me thinking the comeback was dead in the water

I remember that one. Was watching the game with my mate who is only sort of GAA. Mayo had pushed up everywhere. I said to him, watch while Comerford hits Fenton. And he was about a metre above.

Extraordinary player.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: mouview on August 15, 2021, 12:18:39 AM
McCarthy right in front of the ref, absolutely brainless from such an experienced player

Shows how class less some of these dubs are. First time they are beaten and they act like thugs.

Dublin behaved and played like Dublin of the late 90’s/early 2000’s.

And the 70s/80s. McCarthy a throwback to the era when his father was playing, utter tr**p.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 15, 2021, 12:41:48 AM
G seriously, I remember seeing Jack O'Shea and he was better than Fenton, Don't think he get too much change out of Anthony Tohill either.

Yes I’d agree with that. Jacko and Tohill were far superior
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 15, 2021, 12:44:55 AM
I'd fear for Mayo in the final though. 13 points in 70min won't be anywhere close enough to beat Kerry and Comerford in the goal didn't have a save to make. Without goals that Mayo side won't beat Kerry and after finally beating Dublin they need to push on. Unfortunately for them tonight was only a semi final and no trophies were handed out tonight
Not sure if Mayo will need them but goals will be easier to create and score against Kerrys defence than Dublins. And have you taken into account that Mayo have good man markers in O Hora, Durcan, Keegan to hold The Cliffords and O'Shea to low scores?

physicality, conditioning stakes can Kerry match Mayo is the main question I'd ask if this is to be the final pairing.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thewobbler on August 15, 2021, 12:49:10 AM
G seriously, I remember seeing Jack O'Shea and he was better than Fenton, Don't think he get too much change out of Anthony Tohill either.

Yes I’d agree with that. Jacko and Tohill were far superior

At what though?

I’m old enough to have watched every important game that Tohill played in. Right back to macrory cup. And he was magnificent. Absolutely magnificent.

But in a team of all time greats, Fenton still stands out. His fielding. His energy. His distribution. His aura.

I’m not saying he’s definitely the best midfielder of all time.

But anyone who discounts him from such a conversation isn’t thinking straight. They’re mellowing.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: dublin7 on August 15, 2021, 12:53:19 AM
I'd fear for Mayo in the final though. 13 points in 70min won't be anywhere close enough to beat Kerry and Comerford in the goal didn't have a save to make. Without goals that Mayo side won't beat Kerry and after finally beating Dublin they need to push on. Unfortunately for them tonight was only a semi final and no trophies were handed out tonight
Not sure if Mayo will need them but goals will be easier to create and score against Kerrys defence than Dublins. And have you taken into account that Mayo have good man markers in O Hora, Durcan, Keegan to hold The Cliffords and O'Shea to low scores?

Physically, conditioning stakes can Kerry match Mayo is the main question I'd ask if this is to be the final pairing.
Kerry will score goals.Its clearly something they've been working on this year and they've been banging nthem in all season.

Looking at them they remind of the dubs in 2011. Then they were the young up and coming team and Kerry the veterans. Now the roles are reversed but the dubs are out.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Halfquarter on August 15, 2021, 01:37:35 AM
End of Dublin's decade of dominance was sad to see, but not as sad as I thought it would be

Joe Brolly

August 14 2021 09:44 PM


In the 38th minute, with Dublin five up, and moving gloomily towards another anti-climactic win, the game went into a dumb phase. A sort of footballing purgatory, with Dublin holding possession, going backwards, backwards, backwards and nothing in particular happening. For ten long minutes this continued.


Then, something extraordinary happened. Aidan O’Shea was taken off. It felt like a clarion call for a new era. Mayo’s young team — having seemed to accept their fate for the first three-quarters of the game — were suddenly unburdened, and went into full-on championship mode.

Dublin, stuck in a negative rut, could not respond and for the rest of the game they were blown away. Eight times Dublin fisted the ball to a Mayo man.

When Davy Byrne soloed over his own end line in the 77th minute to give Mayo the chance to equalise with the last kick of the game, Rob Hennelly nailed the ’45 imperiously and the Dubs were done.

Hennelly was unrecognisable from the psychological wreck we have come to know. Here, he played magnificently throughout, his inch perfect kick-outs quarterbacking Mayo on their way, complemented by two superb frees from around 60 metres and then that killer ’45.

Dublin overcarried, got caught in the tackle, mis-passed the ball constantly with foot and hand, and might have gotten away with it, until the removal of O’Shea and the realisation by this vibrant young Mayo team that this was the moment.

The heart of this team is Pádraig O’Hora. Having dismissed Galway’s main threat Shane Walsh in the Connacht final with an emphatic slam to the turf after Walsh had pulled him back, he underlined Alex Ferguson’s credo that the game is first and foremost about character. I met him out walking his dog last week in Ballina, bouncing along with his ponytail and smiling broadly. “Give them hell,” I said. “I will,” he said.


Do not let the pink boots fool you. This man is a terrific bit of stuff and a natural leader. In Croke Park, he took the great Ciarán Kilkenny apart, physically and more importantly mentally, so that long before the end Kilkenny had accepted his fate.

Keegan likewise is a leader and with O’Hora at his side, Mayo have two men who are not afraid to win. It was this negation of Dublin’s attacking threat that gave them the confidence to surge on in the last quarter and throughout extra-time.

Enda Hession came in as a sub and immediately showed his team-mates the way, making a series of electrifying drives through the heart of the Dublin defence.

Most teams are beaten by Dublin before they start. Witness Kildare coming to lose by not too much in the Leinster final. When Mayo drove at them, it soon became clear that this Dublin team had reached the end of its natural life. Kicking the ball into the goalkeeper’s hands.

Driving goal chances wide. Fouling when it was as easy to tackle cleanly. But mostly, going backwards, backwards, ever backwards. It was sad to see but not as sad as I thought it would be.

This was because Mayo inspired us and sent us away with hope that this unprecedented period of dominance by one team, this era of oppression, is over.

They played with freedom and concentration and manliness and for the first time in seven years Dublin lost in championship, a decade of tyranny over the game that I hope will never be repeated.



Up front, Ryan O’Donoghue showed that he is also a natural leader, playing with composure and grit, refusing to let the game get the better of him.





Most pleasing for me was the arrival into the big time of Tommy Conroy, an electrifying, passionate, emotional young player who nailed down the Dublin coffin with three glorious points coming down the stretch. He must have suffered after his mauling and early removal against Dublin in last year’s final. His performance here showed strength of character and a young man with spirit and a sense of adventure.

Tommy Goals they call him in Mayo. When he starts doing that in Croke Park they really will be in business. He will need to against Kerry.

All that remains to be said is three cheers for this Dublin team and their astonishing contribution to the game.

Sunday Independent
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 15, 2021, 01:51:17 AM
End of Dublin's decade of dominance was sad to see, but not as sad as I thought it would be

Joe Brolly

August 14 2021 09:44 PM


In the 38th minute, with Dublin five up, and moving gloomily towards another anti-climactic win, the game went into a dumb phase. A sort of footballing purgatory, with Dublin holding possession, going backwards, backwards, backwards and nothing in particular happening. For ten long minutes this continued.


Then, something extraordinary happened. Aidan O’Shea was taken off. It felt like a clarion call for a new era. Mayo’s young team — having seemed to accept their fate for the first three-quarters of the game — were suddenly unburdened, and went into full-on championship mode.

Dublin, stuck in a negative rut, could not respond and for the rest of the game they were blown away. Eight times Dublin fisted the ball to a Mayo man.

When Davy Byrne soloed over his own end line in the 77th minute to give Mayo the chance to equalise with the last kick of the game, Rob Hennelly nailed the ’45 imperiously and the Dubs were done.

Hennelly was unrecognisable from the psychological wreck we have come to know. Here, he played magnificently throughout, his inch perfect kick-outs quarterbacking Mayo on their way, complemented by two superb frees from around 60 metres and then that killer ’45.

Dublin overcarried, got caught in the tackle, mis-passed the ball constantly with foot and hand, and might have gotten away with it, until the removal of O’Shea and the realisation by this vibrant young Mayo team that this was the moment.

The heart of this team is Pádraig O’Hora. Having dismissed Galway’s main threat Shane Walsh in the Connacht final with an emphatic slam to the turf after Walsh had pulled him back, he underlined Alex Ferguson’s credo that the game is first and foremost about character. I met him out walking his dog last week in Ballina, bouncing along with his ponytail and smiling broadly. “Give them hell,” I said. “I will,” he said.


Do not let the pink boots fool you. This man is a terrific bit of stuff and a natural leader. In Croke Park, he took the great Ciarán Kilkenny apart, physically and more importantly mentally, so that long before the end Kilkenny had accepted his fate.

Keegan likewise is a leader and with O’Hora at his side, Mayo have two men who are not afraid to win. It was this negation of Dublin’s attacking threat that gave them the confidence to surge on in the last quarter and throughout extra-time.

Enda Hession came in as a sub and immediately showed his team-mates the way, making a series of electrifying drives through the heart of the Dublin defence.

Most teams are beaten by Dublin before they start. Witness Kildare coming to lose by not too much in the Leinster final. When Mayo drove at them, it soon became clear that this Dublin team had reached the end of its natural life. Kicking the ball into the goalkeeper’s hands.

Driving goal chances wide. Fouling when it was as easy to tackle cleanly. But mostly, going backwards, backwards, ever backwards. It was sad to see but not as sad as I thought it would be.

This was because Mayo inspired us and sent us away with hope that this unprecedented period of dominance by one team, this era of oppression, is over.

They played with freedom and concentration and manliness and for the first time in seven years Dublin lost in championship, a decade of tyranny over the game that I hope will never be repeated.



Up front, Ryan O’Donoghue showed that he is also a natural leader, playing with composure and grit, refusing to let the game get the better of him.





Most pleasing for me was the arrival into the big time of Tommy Conroy, an electrifying, passionate, emotional young player who nailed down the Dublin coffin with three glorious points coming down the stretch. He must have suffered after his mauling and early removal against Dublin in last year’s final. His performance here showed strength of character and a young man with spirit and a sense of adventure.

Tommy Goals they call him in Mayo. When he starts doing that in Croke Park they really will be in business. He will need to against Kerry.

All that remains to be said is three cheers for this Dublin team and their astonishing contribution to the game.

Sunday Independent

Joe in 'sucking the hole off Dublin' shocker
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: MayoBuck on August 15, 2021, 04:31:35 AM
Great win for us! A few thoughts after travelling home from Croker and reading through the comments...

On Hennelly retaking the 45, everyone around me in the stand assumed it was because all the substitutions hadn't taken place. Darren Coen had come on for Mayo but Stephen Coen hadn't left the pitch so we had 16 players on at the time. Surely correct that it wasn't allowed be taken?

Don't know why there are people criticising Fenton. He was one of Dublin's best players, some huge catches in midfield in the 2nd half under pressure. If I was to pick a few Dublin stars that underperformed, it would be Con and after halftime Kilkenny and McCarthy.

It was a real collective effort from us, hard to pick out 1 individual. Hennelly, Keegan, O'Hora, Ryan O'Donoghue and Tommy Conroy the best of the starters. I thought Enda Hession was unreal when he came on, Oisín Mullin-esque speed and ball carrying ability.

Darren McHale and Aido had nightmares. I can only imagine missing 2 easy chances into the hill against Dublin would rock your confidence and he didn't recover.

We'll be underdogs in the final no doubt, but no reason we can't win it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 15, 2021, 05:47:44 AM
Best moment of the match? O'Connor's sliding volley back to McLaughlin for his point. The most Mayo score ever!

It was one of game changing moments of the contest.


 (https://ibb.co/52gnG3W)
anyone a link to a video of this?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 15, 2021, 05:49:34 AM
Never want to hear about tyrone being a dirty team again. That Dublin team is a disgrace with their antics and the ref is joke

They likely watched Tyrone videos, but not in a poorly ventilated video room.

Armagh followed Covid protocols?
Unfortunately so and it cost them a place in the Ulster final.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 15, 2021, 06:01:54 AM
That was unreal. I thought travelling up yesterday that it would be one of those days, you know that we'd end up losing by one or two. We were terrible in the first half. Our attack was shocking and Dublin seemed to be able to do what they wanted, when they wanted, despite our defence doing their best under the circumstances.

There was a pep in the step after half time I thought, even before AOS, who I agree had an absolute nightmare was hauled off. It was a brave move by Horan and fair fucks to him it was an inspired one and it worked. The team seemed to discover the second half against Galway form again. Yes, it took a retaken 45 by Hennelly in the 7th minute of injury time to finally draw level, but all the momentum was with Mayo for quite a while beforehand. To see Dublin scoring 0-3 in a second half was proof of that.

As MayoBuck said above, it is hard to pick out one individual performance, they were all brilliant when they finally got motoring. O'Hora was brilliant though, well deserved motm, he definitely was mine anyway. Keegan got Sky motm, and one could have sais he deserved it.

I will admit to criticsm of Hennelly, but since Clarke retired it's like he has been freed from the psychology of it all and shows what he can do. Afterall he is only human and I'm sure the debate had to have an effect on him. He showed some balls to kick that 45 in the 77th minute.

The 'ref' was woeful. I hope to Christ he's never given an inter-county game again. Dublin could easily be down to 13 men at different stages in the game. I am biased of course, but I felt he rode us for a lot of the game. How he didn't stop the game at the very least when McLaughlin was assaulted is beyond me. Thankfully Dublin fluffed their lines and missed.

On Dublin themselves they hadn't the bench they had when they were in their peak and it showed there. None of their subs fazed me and I'm sure that helped our lads' cause no end as well.

To summarise, it was the most Mayo-like of wins, so it probably wasn't as 'unreal' as I opened the post with.  :)

And yes, there is the presence of Kerry (or Tyrone if the GAA come to an agreement) yet to come, but this thread is about yesterday. And my voice is still coming back after it. ;D
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2021, 08:26:07 AM
First of, we’ll done Mayo, was looking forward to this game, but completely forgot all about as we were out celebrating a 50th and 60th birthday party with everyone then back to mine for a knees up! Didn’t record it either ffs!

Can we split Mayo now and complain about their net spend?

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: sidelineball on August 15, 2021, 09:02:49 AM
Never want to hear about tyrone being a dirty team again. That Dublin team is a disgrace with their antics and the ref is joke

They likely watched Tyrone videos, but not in a poorly ventilated video room.

Armagh followed Covid protocols?
Unfortunately so and it cost them a place in the Ulster final.

Plenty of video evidence to suggest otherwise.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Gold on August 15, 2021, 09:32:57 AM
G seriously, I remember seeing Jack O'Shea and he was better than Fenton, Don't think he get too much change out of Anthony Tohill either.

Yes I’d agree with that. Jacko and Tohill were far superior

At what though?

I’m old enough to have watched every important game that Tohill played in. Right back to macrory cup. And he was magnificent. Absolutely magnificent.

But in a team of all time greats, Fenton still stands out. His fielding. His energy. His distribution. His aura.

I’m not saying he’s definitely the best midfielder of all time.

But anyone who discounts him from such a conversation isn’t thinking straight. They’re mellowing.

Fenton is fantastic at high fielding and gave an exhibition yesterday! He's very relaxed on the ball and usually strokes over a point or more a game

Because Dublin play the analysed to the hilt, slow passing, possession game he never appears swashbuckling like a Tohill or Jacko did.

Fenton is safety  on the ball in the methodical handpassing unit that is Dublin but I agree If up against Tohill he'd be like a wee boy.

I've never seen anything like Tohill.  His strength, fielding,  power, pace and drive was simply awesome

Totally different sport in a way now.....the drive, drive, drive forward element of the game is gone
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Estimator on August 15, 2021, 09:42:26 AM
Joe's article from the Gaelic Life before the game!!

Joe Brolly: The inevitable Dublin victory
Posted: 8:30 pm August 13, 2021

THE famed Dublin surgeon and All-Ireland winner David Hickey said last year he had “no time for this Mayo team, they are a tragic outfit. They win All-Star awards and Player of the Year awards and all that sort of crap. Dublin win All-Irelands.”

Mayo have now played in five All-Ireland finals since 2012 (six if you count replays) and lost all of them. The team embodies, as does their manager, the culture of the individual that is at the heart of Mayo’s dysfunction.

Before Pat Gilroy, Dublin were precisely the same. The dyed hair. The partying in Coppers. The promotional work. The paid appearances. The ‘look at me’ stuff. Gazza not Ronaldo

Gilroy had a simple philosophy when he took over the Dubs, who were at that time very similar to this Mayo group. He told them “If you are not completely happy to sacrifice yourself for the team, find another pastime.” He ruthlessly got rid of those players who set themselves apart from the group. As he later explained “They just weren’t suited to serving a cause. It wasn’t their fault. But they could not be accommodated. Otherwise, it is like cancer. Leave even a little bit of it in and it will spread and eventually kill the culture.”

By Gilroy’s arrival, Dublin had played extremely entertaining football for over a decade and like Mayo, had gotten nowhere. Their most recent All-Ireland was 1995, a full 15 years earlier.

In the noughties, they had played a lot of highly enjoyable football, but always wilted on the biggest days.

“We would have won a couple of All-Irelands at least if we hadn’t come up against such brilliant Kerry and Tyrone teams,” was the constant refrain. “We had no luck.”

In the last quarter of those big games, when they had looked as though they might go on and win, they failed. Yet they were ‘heroes’ in Dublin and around the country. Their culture of victimhood (‘Poor me’) made them the plucky losers everyone loved. Mayo’s ‘curse’ is the same.

When Pat was asked to take over, he was initially reluctant, and only did so having got assurances from Dublin’s chairman John Costello that he had his full backing for what Pat had promised would be a painful transformation of the culture.

He left his glitzy corner-forward Bernard Brogan on the bench for four successive league games. “He wouldn’t tackle,” said Gilroy. “After four games on the bench, he was the hardest tackler on the team.” He dropped Diarmuid Connolly altogether in 2010. Connolly missed a training session two days after the Leinster final. Pat met him that night:

Pat: You’re out Dermo. You can stay on as number 40 on the panel with no chance of playing or you can f**k off.

Dairmuid: I’ll f**k off so.

Pat: good choice.

They were clubmates and teammates. They were friends. They had played together in the St Vincent’s team that won the All-Ireland Club final against Nemo in 2008. Connolly was a big star. That didn’t matter. The group was the only thing that did.

On the morning of the 2010 quarter-final, the Dublin bus drove past Connolly, sitting outside Gaffney’s in Fairview, having a pint. Later that afternoon, the team made their first serious statement, beating Tyrone in the All-Ireland quarter final.

At the start of 2011, Diarmuid met Pat, apologised and asked to be taken back. Pat said he would have to ask the group.

The group said yes, on condition he get himself properly fit. For two months, Diarmuid trained alone, fanatically, until he was in the shape of his life. When he came back in, no one trained harder.

He dropped Jayo, a Hill 16 icon. Jayo remains bitter about it to this day.

One night, Gilroy went into a bar in the city and bumped into Mark Vaughan, the bleached blonde full-forward from Kilmacud Crokes with the sensational skills and flamboyant on-field persona. The next day he dropped him from the panel. Permanently.

Celebrity appearances were banned. From now on, sponsorship money would go into a shared players’ pool.

By 2011 they were ready to play serious football. In September, they were All-Ireland champions, beating the Kerry team that had beaten them by 17 points in the quarter-final two years earlier.

It was, Gilroy recalls, a very painful transition. In particular, dropping Connolly caused Gilroy great personal angst and friction in the club and county. But there was no other way.

Like that pre-Gilroy Dublin, a number of the senior Mayo players succumbed at an early stage of their careers to what Hickey calls “the curse of individuality.”

Horan has a charmed group of untouchables, who will never be taken off regardless of performance. This is corrosive to the culture. The others feel they are dispensable and when they are unable to logically justify the disparity in treatment, they become aggrieved, the bonds of togetherness essential for serious success are not forged and the project is doomed.

So, in 2012, they were crushed by Donegal. In 2014, by a very young Kerry team who galloped through them in the semi-final replay. Kildare beat them in 2018. They shook their heads and refused to go to war in the dying moments against Dublin in 2015, 2016 and 2017. This group is doomed and will not win an All-Ireland until the celebrity culture is banished by a manager who is not himself a part of the celebrity culture.

Holmes and Connelly tried but were ejected after one season by a coup spearheaded by the charmed inner circle. Rochford brought them closer than anyone with the excellence of his coaching. But they were doomed to fail, inevitably losing out when it came to the crunch, because Rochford did not have the courage to take on the problem.

Instead, the players quietly got rid of him after two seasons, preferring to go back to the comfort of their first coach. Never mind that he was tried and failed. Things would be just the way they liked them under Horan. Another three years of plucky failures, plenty of commercial opportunities, lots of TV time, TikTok videos and a smattering of All-Star awards.

Dublin’s culture means victory is inevitable on Saturday. This Mayo group truly does not understand the joy of football, which is all in the journey, not in the anti-climax of a victory.

They are a team that does not operate in the real world. They do not face the truth and deal with it. Instead, they are happy with the instant gratification that comes from awards and a victory here and there. A league title. A Connacht title. Padraig O’Hora has come in (belatedly) and is made of the right stuff. As are Keegan, O’Donoghue, Mullan and a few others. But it is not enough.

To beat Dublin, you cannot have any weak characters. As Alex Ferguson famously said “sport, in the end, is about character.”

Dublin, like the All-Blacks or South Africa, serve a cause bigger than themselves. They have total respect for the game and the opposition. They do everything in their body to achieve the perfect performance. The needs of others are considered ahead of their own. It is inspiring and humbling. They provide us with a guidebook not just for sport but life.

We are lucky to have them as role models, this special, devoted, selfless collective, where the team is the star and TikTok is the sound of a clock.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 15, 2021, 10:03:47 AM
Fenton is probably the greatest player of all time m.

Not even the greatest Dublin player of all time. Certainly the most privileged tho.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: JoG2 on August 15, 2021, 10:10:44 AM
Fenton is probably the greatest player of all time m.

Not even the greatest Dublin player of all time. Certainly the most privileged tho.

And he'd swap it all to be a Tyrone man with multiple troll accounts on a GAA message board..
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: rosnarun on August 15, 2021, 10:13:20 AM
G seriously, I remember seeing Jack O'Shea and he was better than Fenton, Don't think he get too much change out of Anthony Tohill either.

Yes I’d agree with that. Jacko and Tohill were far superior
Tohills not even in the argument .only a nordie would think he is
my top 3 would be from my living memory only ,though  I just love the legend of Mick o connell but i only ever saw him play once ,
Jack o shea
Dara o se
Then Fenton - tjhen only Dub toplay close to his abilty yesterday after the 1st half and not a tr**p
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: SouthDublinBro on August 15, 2021, 10:14:16 AM
Like that pre-Gilroy Dublin, a number of the senior Mayo players succumbed at an early stage of their careers to what Hickey calls “the curse of individuality.”

Horan has a charmed group of untouchables, who will never be taken off regardless of performance. This is corrosive to the culture. The others feel they are dispensable and when they are unable to logically justify the disparity in treatment, they become aggrieved, the bonds of togetherness essential for serious success are not forged and the project is doomed.

To beat Dublin, you cannot have any weak characters. As Alex Ferguson famously said “sport, in the end, is about character.”

He was dead right. Mayo weren't able to do it until they dropped Aidan O'Shea and Cillian O'Connor.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: MayoBuck on August 15, 2021, 10:15:15 AM
Tomás Ó Se had some great lines in his article too...

Same old failing will come back to haunt Mayo in another tilt at the champions

‘The Dubs may be vulnerable, but they’re also cold-blooded and street-wise. Do you not think Brian Fenton and Con O’Callaghan have it in them to lift their form half a dozen notches now?’

How sobering it is to think that we’re now 17 years on from that moment Michael Lyster so famously turned to Colm O’Rourke at half-time in the ’04 All-Ireland final and suggested they were “looking at a murder scene”.

All bar a single county wanted Mayo to beat us that day, particularly after their final experiences of ’89, ’96 and ’97. Even back then, people were talking of the gap to ’51 as some kind of terrible aberration for such a proud football county.

Yet here we are today, that great lake of time now stretching to an ocean of 70 years.

Most neutrals would love to see them reach the mountain-top, but I’d hazard a guess most realists don’t see it happening any time soon. Why? Put me down for precisely the same reasons we were so confident against them in ’04.

Reasons, I don’t doubt, Dublin are putting their faith in today.


I think we all find entertainment in the venom that’s still so palpable between these two teams. They don’t much like one another, that’s crystal clear.

Yes, there’s a level of competitive respect there but make no mistake the over-riding feeling between them isn’t far off hatred. Now I imagine there’ll be plenty of people ready to take offence at that word. I get it. Hatred isn’t a good thing. Hatred isn’t anything to be encouraged.

But trust me on this. In serious sport, hatred is never far beneath the surface in relationships between fierce rivals. It’s an energy source, a power.

Remember the tunnel incident at half-time in last December’s All-Ireland final? There were just two points in the game at the time and the Mayo lads clearly took exception to something Philly McMahon said, all hell suddenly breaking loose.

Plenty of people are appalled when they see that kind of stuff but there’s not a senior inter-county hurler or footballer in the country who’d be among them. The field is a hot place to be in championship especially and, if a bit of pushing and shoving makes you queasy, it’s time to hand back the jersey.




Now I’m only speculating but my take on that was that Philly, a wise old head on his shoulders, reckoned it was time to rattle a few Mayo cages with the game too close for comfort from the Dubs’ point of view (they led by two points).


Remember what then happened when the game resumed?

Down to 14 men because of Robbie McDaid’s sin-binning, Dublin completely controlled the next quarter.

That was Mayo’s moment to put the squeeze on Dublin, but it seemed to me that they just didn’t have the know-how. To drive that hammer home, they needed to get scores. But that third quarter was, essentially, when they lost the final.

So the reason I don’t see Mayo getting across the line this evening is the same reason they haven’t got across the line against Dublin in league or championship since 2012. Namely, they just don’t have the scoring power.

If they’re relying today on Tommy Conroy and Ryan O’Donoghue to do things that no Mayo men have done against marquee opposition in 20 years, then they might as well be putting their faith in a scratch-card.


That’s not meant to be offensive. They’re both good players, but this is Dublin. This is the all-too-familiar reality check. Put it this way: Conroy and O’Donoghue both struggled against Galway. A Galway team we now recognise as bang average.

The only reason Mayo won that game was that Galway could not sustain their intensity for 70-odd minutes. But Dublin will. They always do. Dublin’s work-rate is never up for debate. Look at the tackles Cormac Costello gets in around his own ’45.

I was listening to Andy Moran on a podcast this week and something he said struck me as an unwitting explanation as to why Mayo just can’t close this deal. Andy knows his stuff, to be fair, and his view was that Mayo would have to get goals to win this game. I agree totally.

But he then listed six Mayo players he reckoned carried a potential goal threat and the first four he named were two defenders and two midfielders. Think about that. If you’re depending on your backs and midfielders to worry Dublin in an attacking sense, you might as well be trying to climb Everest with only a rope. It seems to me that Dublin just need energy right now and the sight of Mayo is going to give it to them.


Yes, there’s a perfectly plausible conversation doing the rounds that Mayo might just catch them here. It’s plausible because, if anything, the Dubs have looked a little bored so far. Leinster never stretches them and it’s clear as day that it’s not exactly the most harmonious camp by recent Dublin standards.

The list is long.

McMahon having to miss training because of his work as a performance coach with Bohemians; Kevin McManamon over in Tokyo for nearly a month with the Olympic boxers; Stephen Cluxton still doing his Greta Garbo thing when it’s clear Dessie Farrell wants him back; Eric Lowndes leaving the panel in mid-season without as much as a sentence of explanation.

Or even Dean Rock being taken off the last day against Kildare and choosing not to sit with the other players in what looked to me a minor act of petulance.

It all feels or appears to be that bit looser, which might be down to the players as much as the new management.

But can you imagine any of that happening on Jim Gavin’s watch? Not a hope. No squad is ever entirely happy because the players not getting game-time will, inevitably, be inclined to bitch. But this feels something deeper than that.


This feels like a process of transition that is hitting trouble.

All of which is why people are giving Mayo such a big shout here. I get that. And let me be clear, I expect Mayo will run them close. They invariably do.

But beat them?

The Dubs may be vulnerable, but they’re also cold-blooded and streetwise. Do you not think Brian Fenton and Con O’Callaghan have it in them to lift their form half a dozen notches now as we arrive at the business end of championship? Of course they do. And Mayo know that better than anyone.

I’m assuming they’ll put Paddy Durcan on Ciarán Kilkenny and Oisín Mullin on O’Callaghan or maybe vice versa. But Durcan and Mullin were two of the players Andy Moran identified as potential goal threats for Mayo. If they’re having to keep tabs on Kilkenny and O’Callaghan?

I can’t see it.

What Mayo wouldn’t do to have a young Lee Keegan on hand now, the kind of player who could keeps tabs on a superstar like Diarmuid Connolly and still nail 1-2 of his own. That Keegan doesn’t exist anymore.


He can’t really do both anymore.

I think James Horan has shown a remarkable ability to regenerate this team, so much so it’s hard to argue that they’re significantly weaker than they were a few years ago.

Yes Cillian O’Connor’s absence is being felt, especially from frees. I watched Mayo’s first half against Galway again this week and it’s fair to say that they were shocking. Just taking stupid options, kicking awful wides, spilling deplorable handpasses and missing the kind of frees O’Connor kicks in his sleep.

With over half an hour of that game gone, Mayo had a miserly 0-4 on the board.

Yes, the second half was a different story with the likes of Matthew Ruane especially thundering into the game. But I don’t doubt the Dubs will be giving Brian Fenton earache now about just how well Ruane is playing. That’s how this always works.

When we were going so poorly in ’09, the only thing my brothers Darragh and Marc kept hearing before our quarter-final against Dublin was how Ciarán Whelan and Bernard Brogan were both flying. Fair to say by the end of that week, the two boys were primed for war. Trust me, that’s how Fenton will be feeling this week. He’ll be looking at what he considers a pretender to his throne and thinking, ‘No, not today buddy!’


Kildare asked nothing of Dublin. They never pressed up on Evan Comerford’s kick-outs, which is fine if you’ve built a lead.

Then – by all means – hold your shape, stay defensively tight. But if you’re chasing a game and still refuse to push bodies forward then you’re, essentially, just accepting your fate.

Mayo will ask questions. I don’t doubt that.

They know just how important Cluxton has been to this Dublin story and will aim to find profit in his absence now.

Across all of the All-Ireland finals Cluxton played for Dublin, you could count on one hand his second-half kick-outs that were lost.

Cluxton’s second-half showings in those finals were almost flawless.


Mayo forced him to go long six times in last year’s first half and all six failed to end up in Dublin hands. That should have been the foundation stone on which Mayo made a profit. But they couldn’t. And come the second half? Every single Cluxton kick was on the money.

It makes sense for Mayo to go after Evan Comerford’s kicks this evening. He’s a fine goalkeeper, but we can’t really say if he’s a readymade replacement for the greatest number one of all when he hasn’t yet weathered a fraction of Cluxton’s wars.

The trouble for Mayo is their scoring purple patches don’t tend to come against Dublin or Kerry and, until that changes, they’re not getting their hands on Sam. Not a hope.

Mayo greatest strength is their work-rate and they have so many defensive players that we’d love to have in Kerry. But, let’s face it, they’d kill for Kerry’s six forwards too. And forwards, ultimately, win All-Irelands.

I’ve massive time for Horan as a manager by the way, but he can only work with the talent at his disposal. And Mayo seem to be regenerating only in the areas they’re already strong in. The marquee forward they’ve craved for a decade now has yet to be unveiled.


Yes, Cillian O’Connor has been an outstanding player, but he’s never been the game-changer in a final that the likes of Kilkenny and O’Callaghan have been for Dublin.

Now I hasten to add, that can still be said of David Clifford and Seánie O’Shea in Kerry too. The difference, of course, is that O’Connor has spent a decade trying to get over that line, the Kerry boyos are just starting.

Which is the big problem for Mayo now. In my opinion, they were a trickier opponent back in my day when the likes of Moran and Ciarán McDonald were still playing. They were certainly more unpredictable.

I expect Mayo to try running the legs off Dublin today because, man for man, they just don’t have the stuff to outplay them.

People are making an argument for them on the basis that Dublin seem to have regressed spectacularly. I’m more inclined to think they’ve just been a little distracted until now. But that changes here.


The Dubs may not be what they were, but that doesn’t mean they can’t make it seven in a row. All that talk of an unhappy camp isn’t legal tender until they lose.

They categorically don’t like Mayo and rest assured that will give them energy this evening.

An energy I just can’t see the Connacht champions overcoming.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 15, 2021, 10:21:14 AM
Fenton is probably the greatest player of all time m.

Not even the greatest Dublin player of all time. Certainly the most privileged tho.

And he'd swap it all to be a Tyrone man with multiple troll accounts on a GAA message board..

I don't have any other accounts. Feeling tetchy?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: JoG2 on August 15, 2021, 10:31:12 AM
Fenton is probably the greatest player of all time m.

Not even the greatest Dublin player of all time. Certainly the most privileged tho.

And he'd swap it all to be a Tyrone man with multiple troll accounts on a GAA message board..

I don't have any other accounts. Feeling tetchy?

 I don't believe you...  :-X
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 15, 2021, 10:36:30 AM
G seriously, I remember seeing Jack O'Shea and he was better than Fenton, Don't think he get too much change out of Anthony Tohill either.

Yes I’d agree with that. Jacko and Tohill were far superior
Tohills not even in the argument .only a nordie would think he is
my top 3 would be from my living memory only ,though  I just love the legend of Mick o connell but i only ever saw him play once ,
Jack o shea
Dara o se
Then Fenton - tjhen only Dub toplay close to his abilty yesterday after the 1st half and not a tr**p

The fact that only you brought a partitionist view into it, suggests you’re not including Tohill for that very reason.

Tohill was absolute all rounder. Awesome strength, superb fielder, could drive forward, could take scores, and free taker. Jacko, fantastic. Those are the top two.

After that you’re looking at Dara O’Se, Michael Murphy (even though he didn’t always play at midfield), Liam Hayes and Sean Cavanagh. Fenton is way down that list.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 15, 2021, 10:41:51 AM
@MayoBuck Tomás  Ó Sé more often than not gives the kiss of death on whatever team he predicts. As soon as I seen him writing Mayo off the more confident I was of a Mayo win.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thewobbler on August 15, 2021, 10:41:59 AM
G seriously, I remember seeing Jack O'Shea and he was better than Fenton, Don't think he get too much change out of Anthony Tohill either.

Yes I’d agree with that. Jacko and Tohill were far superior
Tohills not even in the argument .only a nordie would think he is
my top 3 would be from my living memory only ,though  I just love the legend of Mick o connell but i only ever saw him play once ,
Jack o shea
Dara o se
Then Fenton - tjhen only Dub toplay close to his abilty yesterday after the 1st half and not a tr**p

The fact that only you brought a partitionist view into it, suggests you’re not including Tohill for that very reason.

Tohill was absolute all rounder. Awesome strength, superb fielder, could drive forward, could take scores, and free taker. Jacko, fantastic. Those are the top two.

After that you’re looking at Dara O’Se, Michael Murphy (even though he didn’t always play at midfield), Liam Hayes and Sean Cavanagh. Fenton is way down that list.

Is that the same Darragh O’Se who got cleaned out of sight 3 times by Kevin Hughes in Croke?

People enjoy a strange romanticism about retired players.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 15, 2021, 10:42:08 AM
Tomás Ó Se had some great lines in his article too...

Same old failing will come back to haunt Mayo in another tilt at the champions

‘The Dubs may be vulnerable, but they’re also cold-blooded and street-wise. Do you not think Brian Fenton and Con O’Callaghan have it in them to lift their form half a dozen notches now?’

How sobering it is to think that we’re now 17 years on from that moment Michael Lyster so famously turned to Colm O’Rourke at half-time in the ’04 All-Ireland final and suggested they were “looking at a murder scene”.

All bar a single county wanted Mayo to beat us that day, particularly after their final experiences of ’89, ’96 and ’97. Even back then, people were talking of the gap to ’51 as some kind of terrible aberration for such a proud football county.

Yet here we are today, that great lake of time now stretching to an ocean of 70 years.

Most neutrals would love to see them reach the mountain-top, but I’d hazard a guess most realists don’t see it happening any time soon. Why? Put me down for precisely the same reasons we were so confident against them in ’04.

Reasons, I don’t doubt, Dublin are putting their faith in today.


I think we all find entertainment in the venom that’s still so palpable between these two teams. They don’t much like one another, that’s crystal clear.

Yes, there’s a level of competitive respect there but make no mistake the over-riding feeling between them isn’t far off hatred. Now I imagine there’ll be plenty of people ready to take offence at that word. I get it. Hatred isn’t a good thing. Hatred isn’t anything to be encouraged.

But trust me on this. In serious sport, hatred is never far beneath the surface in relationships between fierce rivals. It’s an energy source, a power.

Remember the tunnel incident at half-time in last December’s All-Ireland final? There were just two points in the game at the time and the Mayo lads clearly took exception to something Philly McMahon said, all hell suddenly breaking loose.

Plenty of people are appalled when they see that kind of stuff but there’s not a senior inter-county hurler or footballer in the country who’d be among them. The field is a hot place to be in championship especially and, if a bit of pushing and shoving makes you queasy, it’s time to hand back the jersey.




Now I’m only speculating but my take on that was that Philly, a wise old head on his shoulders, reckoned it was time to rattle a few Mayo cages with the game too close for comfort from the Dubs’ point of view (they led by two points).


Remember what then happened when the game resumed?

Down to 14 men because of Robbie McDaid’s sin-binning, Dublin completely controlled the next quarter.

That was Mayo’s moment to put the squeeze on Dublin, but it seemed to me that they just didn’t have the know-how. To drive that hammer home, they needed to get scores. But that third quarter was, essentially, when they lost the final.

So the reason I don’t see Mayo getting across the line this evening is the same reason they haven’t got across the line against Dublin in league or championship since 2012. Namely, they just don’t have the scoring power.

If they’re relying today on Tommy Conroy and Ryan O’Donoghue to do things that no Mayo men have done against marquee opposition in 20 years, then they might as well be putting their faith in a scratch-card.


That’s not meant to be offensive. They’re both good players, but this is Dublin. This is the all-too-familiar reality check. Put it this way: Conroy and O’Donoghue both struggled against Galway. A Galway team we now recognise as bang average.

The only reason Mayo won that game was that Galway could not sustain their intensity for 70-odd minutes. But Dublin will. They always do. Dublin’s work-rate is never up for debate. Look at the tackles Cormac Costello gets in around his own ’45.

I was listening to Andy Moran on a podcast this week and something he said struck me as an unwitting explanation as to why Mayo just can’t close this deal. Andy knows his stuff, to be fair, and his view was that Mayo would have to get goals to win this game. I agree totally.

But he then listed six Mayo players he reckoned carried a potential goal threat and the first four he named were two defenders and two midfielders. Think about that. If you’re depending on your backs and midfielders to worry Dublin in an attacking sense, you might as well be trying to climb Everest with only a rope. It seems to me that Dublin just need energy right now and the sight of Mayo is going to give it to them.


Yes, there’s a perfectly plausible conversation doing the rounds that Mayo might just catch them here. It’s plausible because, if anything, the Dubs have looked a little bored so far. Leinster never stretches them and it’s clear as day that it’s not exactly the most harmonious camp by recent Dublin standards.

The list is long.

McMahon having to miss training because of his work as a performance coach with Bohemians; Kevin McManamon over in Tokyo for nearly a month with the Olympic boxers; Stephen Cluxton still doing his Greta Garbo thing when it’s clear Dessie Farrell wants him back; Eric Lowndes leaving the panel in mid-season without as much as a sentence of explanation.

Or even Dean Rock being taken off the last day against Kildare and choosing not to sit with the other players in what looked to me a minor act of petulance.

It all feels or appears to be that bit looser, which might be down to the players as much as the new management.

But can you imagine any of that happening on Jim Gavin’s watch? Not a hope. No squad is ever entirely happy because the players not getting game-time will, inevitably, be inclined to bitch. But this feels something deeper than that.


This feels like a process of transition that is hitting trouble.

All of which is why people are giving Mayo such a big shout here. I get that. And let me be clear, I expect Mayo will run them close. They invariably do.

But beat them?

The Dubs may be vulnerable, but they’re also cold-blooded and streetwise. Do you not think Brian Fenton and Con O’Callaghan have it in them to lift their form half a dozen notches now as we arrive at the business end of championship? Of course they do. And Mayo know that better than anyone.

I’m assuming they’ll put Paddy Durcan on Ciarán Kilkenny and Oisín Mullin on O’Callaghan or maybe vice versa. But Durcan and Mullin were two of the players Andy Moran identified as potential goal threats for Mayo. If they’re having to keep tabs on Kilkenny and O’Callaghan?

I can’t see it.

What Mayo wouldn’t do to have a young Lee Keegan on hand now, the kind of player who could keeps tabs on a superstar like Diarmuid Connolly and still nail 1-2 of his own. That Keegan doesn’t exist anymore.


He can’t really do both anymore.

I think James Horan has shown a remarkable ability to regenerate this team, so much so it’s hard to argue that they’re significantly weaker than they were a few years ago.

Yes Cillian O’Connor’s absence is being felt, especially from frees. I watched Mayo’s first half against Galway again this week and it’s fair to say that they were shocking. Just taking stupid options, kicking awful wides, spilling deplorable handpasses and missing the kind of frees O’Connor kicks in his sleep.

With over half an hour of that game gone, Mayo had a miserly 0-4 on the board.

Yes, the second half was a different story with the likes of Matthew Ruane especially thundering into the game. But I don’t doubt the Dubs will be giving Brian Fenton earache now about just how well Ruane is playing. That’s how this always works.

When we were going so poorly in ’09, the only thing my brothers Darragh and Marc kept hearing before our quarter-final against Dublin was how Ciarán Whelan and Bernard Brogan were both flying. Fair to say by the end of that week, the two boys were primed for war. Trust me, that’s how Fenton will be feeling this week. He’ll be looking at what he considers a pretender to his throne and thinking, ‘No, not today buddy!’


Kildare asked nothing of Dublin. They never pressed up on Evan Comerford’s kick-outs, which is fine if you’ve built a lead.

Then – by all means – hold your shape, stay defensively tight. But if you’re chasing a game and still refuse to push bodies forward then you’re, essentially, just accepting your fate.

Mayo will ask questions. I don’t doubt that.

They know just how important Cluxton has been to this Dublin story and will aim to find profit in his absence now.

Across all of the All-Ireland finals Cluxton played for Dublin, you could count on one hand his second-half kick-outs that were lost.

Cluxton’s second-half showings in those finals were almost flawless.


Mayo forced him to go long six times in last year’s first half and all six failed to end up in Dublin hands. That should have been the foundation stone on which Mayo made a profit. But they couldn’t. And come the second half? Every single Cluxton kick was on the money.

It makes sense for Mayo to go after Evan Comerford’s kicks this evening. He’s a fine goalkeeper, but we can’t really say if he’s a readymade replacement for the greatest number one of all when he hasn’t yet weathered a fraction of Cluxton’s wars.

The trouble for Mayo is their scoring purple patches don’t tend to come against Dublin or Kerry and, until that changes, they’re not getting their hands on Sam. Not a hope.

Mayo greatest strength is their work-rate and they have so many defensive players that we’d love to have in Kerry. But, let’s face it, they’d kill for Kerry’s six forwards too. And forwards, ultimately, win All-Irelands.

I’ve massive time for Horan as a manager by the way, but he can only work with the talent at his disposal. And Mayo seem to be regenerating only in the areas they’re already strong in. The marquee forward they’ve craved for a decade now has yet to be unveiled.


Yes, Cillian O’Connor has been an outstanding player, but he’s never been the game-changer in a final that the likes of Kilkenny and O’Callaghan have been for Dublin.

Now I hasten to add, that can still be said of David Clifford and Seánie O’Shea in Kerry too. The difference, of course, is that O’Connor has spent a decade trying to get over that line, the Kerry boyos are just starting.

Which is the big problem for Mayo now. In my opinion, they were a trickier opponent back in my day when the likes of Moran and Ciarán McDonald were still playing. They were certainly more unpredictable.

I expect Mayo to try running the legs off Dublin today because, man for man, they just don’t have the stuff to outplay them.

People are making an argument for them on the basis that Dublin seem to have regressed spectacularly. I’m more inclined to think they’ve just been a little distracted until now. But that changes here.


The Dubs may not be what they were, but that doesn’t mean they can’t make it seven in a row. All that talk of an unhappy camp isn’t legal tender until they lose.

They categorically don’t like Mayo and rest assured that will give them energy this evening.

An energy I just can’t see the Connacht champions overcoming.

“ my opinion, they were a trickier opponent back in my day when the likes of Moran and Ciarán McDonald were still playing. They were certainly more unpredictable.”

When they were losing finals by 20+ points?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 15, 2021, 10:46:17 AM
Anyone who doesn’t think Brian Fenton is up there as one of the best midfielders ever is either clueless or just blindingly anti-Dub.

On another note, any news of McLaughlin? That was some hit he took, hopefully all is ok.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 15, 2021, 10:49:35 AM
G seriously, I remember seeing Jack O'Shea and he was better than Fenton, Don't think he get too much change out of Anthony Tohill either.

Yes I’d agree with that. Jacko and Tohill were far superior
Tohills not even in the argument .only a nordie would think he is
my top 3 would be from my living memory only ,though  I just love the legend of Mick o connell but i only ever saw him play once ,
Jack o shea
Dara o se
Then Fenton - tjhen only Dub toplay close to his abilty yesterday after the 1st half and not a tr**p

Tohill was a better all round footballer than Darragh O'Se in almost all aspects of the game bar his physicality and fielding prowess. In terms of athleticism and skill Tohill was superior not to mention his ability as a free taker. Darragh O'Se was a very good player who played behind a great forward line but I don't think too many would place him above Tohill.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 15, 2021, 10:52:05 AM
G seriously, I remember seeing Jack O'Shea and he was better than Fenton, Don't think he get too much change out of Anthony Tohill either.

Yes I’d agree with that. Jacko and Tohill were far superior
Tohills not even in the argument .only a nordie would think he is
my top 3 would be from my living memory only ,though  I just love the legend of Mick o connell but i only ever saw him play once ,
Jack o shea
Dara o se
Then Fenton - tjhen only Dub toplay close to his abilty yesterday after the 1st half and not a tr**p

The fact that only you brought a partitionist view into it, suggests you’re not including Tohill for that very reason.

Tohill was absolute all rounder. Awesome strength, superb fielder, could drive forward, could take scores, and free taker. Jacko, fantastic. Those are the top two.

After that you’re looking at Dara O’Se, Michael Murphy (even though he didn’t always play at midfield), Liam Hayes and Sean Cavanagh. Fenton is way down that list.

Is that the same Darragh O’Se who got cleaned out of sight 3 times by Kevin Hughes in Croke?

People enjoy a strange romanticism about retired players.

Peter Canavan couldn’t get a score off Enda McNulty for years. Does that mean Canavan shouldn’t be considered one of the greatest forwards who played the game?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 15, 2021, 10:53:02 AM
Anyone who doesn’t think Brian Fenton is up there as one of the best midfielders ever is either clueless or just blindingly anti-Dub.

On another note, any news of McLaughlin? That was some hit he took, hopefully all is ok.

He absolutely is, 100%

Broken jaw apparently
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thewobbler on August 15, 2021, 10:58:29 AM
G seriously, I remember seeing Jack O'Shea and he was better than Fenton, Don't think he get too much change out of Anthony Tohill either.

Yes I’d agree with that. Jacko and Tohill were far superior
Tohills not even in the argument .only a nordie would think he is
my top 3 would be from my living memory only ,though  I just love the legend of Mick o connell but i only ever saw him play once ,
Jack o shea
Dara o se
Then Fenton - tjhen only Dub toplay close to his abilty yesterday after the 1st half and not a tr**p

The fact that only you brought a partitionist view into it, suggests you’re not including Tohill for that very reason.

Tohill was absolute all rounder. Awesome strength, superb fielder, could drive forward, could take scores, and free taker. Jacko, fantastic. Those are the top two.

After that you’re looking at Dara O’Se, Michael Murphy (even though he didn’t always play at midfield), Liam Hayes and Sean Cavanagh. Fenton is way down that list.

Is that the same Darragh O’Se who got cleaned out of sight 3 times by Kevin Hughes in Croke?

People enjoy a strange romanticism about retired players.

Peter Canavan couldn’t get a score off Enda McNulty for years. Does that mean Canavan shouldn’t be considered one of the greatest forwards who played the game?

No, that’s not a fair comparator. In almost every major Tyrone game of the 90s and 00s, Canavan was a hugely influential figure.

Whereas when Kerry had it put up to them during that time, Darragh O’Se usually went missing.

O’Se was a Rolls Royce of a footballer. So elegant. But there wasn’t one aspect of his game was superior to Fenton.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 15, 2021, 11:06:41 AM
G seriously, I remember seeing Jack O'Shea and he was better than Fenton, Don't think he get too much change out of Anthony Tohill either.

Yes I’d agree with that. Jacko and Tohill were far superior
Tohills not even in the argument .only a nordie would think he is
my top 3 would be from my living memory only ,though  I just love the legend of Mick o connell but i only ever saw him play once ,
Jack o shea
Dara o se
Then Fenton - tjhen only Dub toplay close to his abilty yesterday after the 1st half and not a tr**p

The fact that only you brought a partitionist view into it, suggests you’re not including Tohill for that very reason.

Tohill was absolute all rounder. Awesome strength, superb fielder, could drive forward, could take scores, and free taker. Jacko, fantastic. Those are the top two.

After that you’re looking at Dara O’Se, Michael Murphy (even though he didn’t always play at midfield), Liam Hayes and Sean Cavanagh. Fenton is way down that list.

Is that the same Darragh O’Se who got cleaned out of sight 3 times by Kevin Hughes in Croke?

People enjoy a strange romanticism about retired players.

Peter Canavan couldn’t get a score off Enda McNulty for years. Does that mean Canavan shouldn’t be considered one of the greatest forwards who played the game?

Canavan's peak was mid to late 90's but he was still one of the top forwards of all time nobody would argue that point. It's nonsensical to pick out a few games over a players entire career and use that as a metric of their ability. Your opinion on Fenton is just blatantly anti Dub.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: 6th sam on August 15, 2021, 11:17:27 AM
G seriously, I remember seeing Jack O'Shea and he was better than Fenton, Don't think he get too much change out of Anthony Tohill either.

Yes I’d agree with that. Jacko and Tohill were far superior
Tohills not even in the argument .only a nordie would think he is
my top 3 would be from my living memory only ,though  I just love the legend of Mick o connell but i only ever saw him play once ,
Jack o shea
Dara o se
Then Fenton - tjhen only Dub toplay close to his abilty yesterday after the 1st half and not a tr**p

The fact that only you brought a partitionist view into it, suggests you’re not including Tohill for that very reason.

Tohill was absolute all rounder. Awesome strength, superb fielder, could drive forward, could take scores, and free taker. Jacko, fantastic. Those are the top two.

After that you’re looking at Dara O’Se, Michael Murphy (even though he didn’t always play at midfield), Liam Hayes and Sean Cavanagh. Fenton is way down that list.

Is that the same Darragh O’Se who got cleaned out of sight 3 times by Kevin Hughes in Croke?

People enjoy a strange romanticism about retired players.

Peter Canavan couldn’t get a score off Enda McNulty for years. Does that mean Canavan shouldn’t be considered one of the greatest forwards who played the game?

No, that’s not a fair comparator. In almost every major Tyrone game of the 90s and 00s, Canavan was a hugely influential figure.

Whereas when Kerry had it put up to them during that time, Darragh O’Se usually went missing.

O’Se was a Rolls Royce of a footballer. So elegant. But there wasn’t one aspect of his game was superior to Fenton.
Would agree . Though it’s impossible to compare different eras . Tohill was absolutely brilliant. Fenton and Jacko is in same mould . Darragh o’sé isn’t in that league
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 15, 2021, 11:48:57 AM
Anyone who doesn’t think Brian Fenton is up there as one of the best midfielders ever is either clueless or just blindingly anti-Dub.

On another note, any news of McLaughlin? That was some hit he took, hopefully all is ok.

He absolutely is, 100%

Broken jaw apparently
FFS. Ye are having no luck this year. Hopefully Mullin is back for final.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: RedHand88 on August 15, 2021, 11:49:55 AM
Anyone who doesn’t think Brian Fenton is up there as one of the best midfielders ever is either clueless or just blindingly anti-Dub.

On another note, any news of McLaughlin? That was some hit he took, hopefully all is ok.

He absolutely is, 100%

Broken jaw apparently
FFS. Ye are having no luck this year. Hopefully Mullin is back for final.

Bad luck is nothing to do with it. It was a dirty dirty act.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Sportacus on August 15, 2021, 11:58:20 AM
Ach I really hope he’s ok for the final and it’s not a broken jaw.  How the ref let play continue I do not know.
I remember Dublin emptying Peter Crowley with a late hit in the last play of the semi-final a few years ago and the ref ignored it that day as well and it swung the game. 
Yesterday was ridiculous, the ref actually kept looking back, it was clear McLaughlin hit the ground like a sack of spuds, but he let Dublin if for a goal chance anyway.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 15, 2021, 12:09:48 PM
Well done Mayo.

You have been in lockstep with Dublin over the last ten glorious years and have never let us out of your sights. It’s appropriate that you are the ones who were there the day the music died. It was a tough game with neither side holding back but I’m sure that’s the way Mayo would want it – a victory handed to them on a plate would be no use to them. I believe all Dublin supporters will be wishing you all the best in the Final.

As a Dublin fan the last ten years have been a golden era which back in the early 2000s none of us would ever have foreseen. We were blessed to be able to follow the best Gaelic football team that ever was or probably ever will be. The scale of Dublin’s achievement can be appreciated by considering that Mayo’s stunning performance last night would have to be replicated in almost every significant game between now and 2030.     
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: SouthDublinBro on August 15, 2021, 12:18:08 PM
Again full credit to Mayo for beating what was in front of them but that was certainly not the best Mayo performance I've seen nor is this quite as an impressive achievement as many Mayo fans seem to be heralding it as. Bear in mind the fact that Meath came extremely close to exposing this Dublin team last month.

Mayo did not beat THE Dublin that had dominated the sport for so long. They beat the shadow of that team for whom the hunger was gone. Congrats on your semi final win. I will be rooting for you against Kerry but this game and feeling will be ultimately forgotten if you don't go on to lift Sam.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Sportacus on August 15, 2021, 12:23:42 PM
Well done Mayo.

You have been in lockstep with Dublin over the last ten glorious years and have never let us out of your sights. It’s appropriate that you are the ones who were there the day the music died. It was a tough game with neither side holding back but I’m sure that’s the way Mayo would want it – a victory handed to them on a plate would be no use to them. I believe all Dublin supporters will be wishing you all the best in the Final.

As a Dublin fan the last ten years have been a golden era which back in the early 2000s none of us would ever have foreseen. We were blessed to be able to follow the best Gaelic football team that ever was or probably ever will be. The scale of Dublin’s achievement can be appreciated by considering that Mayo’s stunning performance last night would have to be replicated in almost every significant game between now and 2030.     
Sorry but that’s just a patronising euphemism towards Mayo.  James McCarthy elbowed O’Connor in the throat, McLaughlin out stone cold with possible broken jaw, McCarthy throwing his man to the ground, McMahon being a dick, and god knows what else.  Don’t be giving it the aul no quarter asked nor given treatment. 
The ‘spade a spade’ for me is Dublin have had some fine teams, great players and we’re wxtremely modest and gracious victors, and hats off to them breaking all records, but you have to call out yesterday for what it was.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 15, 2021, 12:28:16 PM
Well done to Mayo. I called the mayo win early in week. The dubs massive decline this year.  Aidan O'Shea taking himself off was changing of the game. Matt Ruane definitely player of the year. Class act. Well done to Ryan O'Donoghue and Tommy Conroy.  Great leadership.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: WhoDat on August 15, 2021, 12:47:36 PM
i said before the game that i heard the dub camp wasnt happy and i believe that to be true. clear identity crisis since gavin left and cluxton's disappearing act. farrell doesn't have a handle on the egos.

mayo showed great courage and conviction. horan brilliant on the sideline. subbing o'shea when he was having a nightmare was a big call and it changed the game. he has built a seriously pacey squad there. their fitness and pace was frightening at times.

hope the mcloughlin lad is ok. that was a dirty hit and of course conor lane didn't blow it up. a clown of a ref who is shocking even at club level.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 15, 2021, 01:25:07 PM
As the game went on, I got increasingly thick with the Dublin side's cynical play. It got worse as the game slipped away from them. Lane was fluting about waving black and yellow cards but taking no decisive action.
I honestly thought Dublin were a disgrace to their county.
Then the game ended...
I may be wrong but I think every Dublin players stayed on the field and congratulated their opponents. They were certainly gracious in defeat. They had tried every means possible to win but accepted their defeat like gunuine sportsmen.
A point that should be noted.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Rudi on August 15, 2021, 01:26:50 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

If Basquel scores that goal at the start of the 2nd half the game is done, but all year dubs have been doing things and making errors they never made before. They tried to play keep ball but Mayo pushed up on them and before they new it they were being over run by a far hungrier team.

Despite their struggles all over the pitch from the 2nd half onwards( Rudi's f**king ignorance & Dublin bitterness aside) Brian Fenton was immense tonight and had one of his best ever games in a Dublin jersey. That was an awesome display by him and at times he was the one Dublin player carrying the fight to Mayo.

That was a great win for Mayo tonight and their fans/players should enjoy the victory (especially the fan who backed a draw over 70min at 40-1 and put a tenner on it)

I'd fear for Mayo in the final though. 13 points in 70min won't be anywhere close enough to beat Kerry and Comerford in the goal didn't have a save to make. Without goals that Mayo side won't beat Kerry and after finally beating Dublin they need to push on. Unfortunately for them tonight was only a semi final and no trophies were handed out tonight

Its understandable your in bad form after a championship loss, if you ever cared to read my posts, I always speak in high terms about how great this Dublin team is. The best team I have ever seen & I ain't a young fella. Some super players Kilkenny, Mannion, Callaghan, Fenton, O Sullivan, Brogan, Flynn & others to numerous to mention. I coach myself & always mention the Dublin way of playing, 30 yard pass ball bouncing in front of the man. I have defended the financial doping of the squad on other threads.
Last night didn't like the keep ball 10 mins before half time, would rather if they pushed on, they were dirty in the second half & Philly, McCarthy & others let themselves down. I like Fenton as a player he was ok last night, thought all the Dublin players disappeared a bit in the second half & extra time, dont think Farrell is up to much as a manager. Again I admire this Dublin side over the last 10 years, some of them acted the maggot last night & deserved to be on the losing side.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 15, 2021, 01:29:14 PM
G seriously, I remember seeing Jack O'Shea and he was better than Fenton, Don't think he get too much change out of Anthony Tohill either.

Yes I’d agree with that. Jacko and Tohill were far superior
Tohills not even in the argument .only a nordie would think he is
my top 3 would be from my living memory only ,though  I just love the legend of Mick o connell but i only ever saw him play once ,
Jack o shea
Dara o se
Then Fenton - tjhen only Dub toplay close to his abilty yesterday after the 1st half and not a tr**p

The fact that only you brought a partitionist view into it, suggests you’re not including Tohill for that very reason.

Tohill was absolute all rounder. Awesome strength, superb fielder, could drive forward, could take scores, and free taker. Jacko, fantastic. Those are the top two.

After that you’re looking at Dara O’Se, Michael Murphy (even though he didn’t always play at midfield), Liam Hayes and Sean Cavanagh. Fenton is way down that list.

Is that the same Darragh O’Se who got cleaned out of sight 3 times by Kevin Hughes in Croke?

People enjoy a strange romanticism about retired players.

Peter Canavan couldn’t get a score off Enda McNulty for years. Does that mean Canavan shouldn’t be considered one of the greatest forwards who played the game?

Canavan's peak was mid to late 90's but he was still one of the top forwards of all time nobody would argue that point. It's nonsensical to pick out a few games over a players entire career and use that as a metric of their ability. Your opinion on Fenton is just blatantly anti Dub.

I didn’t. Wobbler did that. I was merely responding 

Anti Dub me hole. Can someone not have an opinion now without being called anti-something?  :o
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 15, 2021, 01:36:00 PM
That cod acting around by the Dublin defense that led to the 45 wouldn’t have happened under Gilroy or Gavin.

What was McCarthy thinking flinging the Mayo player to the ground right in front of the referee

At that stage they had gotten away with holy blue murder so he probably thought he’d get away with that too

If you look at the final Mayo possession of the game, the Dublin number 15 (I think) attempted to dispossess the Mayo player from behind by punching him in the ribs.....more than once
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: MayoBuck on August 15, 2021, 01:49:45 PM
Well done Mayo.

You have been in lockstep with Dublin over the last ten glorious years and have never let us out of your sights. It’s appropriate that you are the ones who were there the day the music died. It was a tough game with neither side holding back but I’m sure that’s the way Mayo would want it – a victory handed to them on a plate would be no use to them. I believe all Dublin supporters will be wishing you all the best in the Final.

As a Dublin fan the last ten years have been a golden era which back in the early 2000s none of us would ever have foreseen. We were blessed to be able to follow the best Gaelic football team that ever was or probably ever will be. The scale of Dublin’s achievement can be appreciated by considering that Mayo’s stunning performance last night would have to be replicated in almost every significant game between now and 2030.     

No I'd have preferred less broken jaws to be honest.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: MayoBuck on August 15, 2021, 01:53:46 PM
As the game went on, I got increasingly thick with the Dublin side's cynical play. It got worse as the game slipped away from them. Lane was fluting about waving black and yellow cards but taking no decisive action.
I honestly thought Dublin were a disgrace to their county.
Then the game ended...
I may be wrong but I think every Dublin players stayed on the field and congratulated their opponents. They were certainly gracious in defeat. They had tried every means possible to win but accepted their defeat like gunuine sportsmen.
A point that should be noted.

I heard rte on about this too. Doesn't every team do that win or lose? It would be bizarre if they just walked off the pitch without shaking hands. That's basic etiquette even in my 5 a side soccer.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: dublin7 on August 15, 2021, 02:06:15 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

If Basquel scores that goal at the start of the 2nd half the game is done, but all year dubs have been doing things and making errors they never made before. They tried to play keep ball but Mayo pushed up on them and before they new it they were being over run by a far hungrier team.

Despite their struggles all over the pitch from the 2nd half onwards( Rudi's f**king ignorance & Dublin bitterness aside) Brian Fenton was immense tonight and had one of his best ever games in a Dublin jersey. That was an awesome display by him and at times he was the one Dublin player carrying the fight to Mayo.

That was a great win for Mayo tonight and their fans/players should enjoy the victory (especially the fan who backed a draw over 70min at 40-1 and put a tenner on it)

I'd fear for Mayo in the final though. 13 points in 70min won't be anywhere close enough to beat Kerry and Comerford in the goal didn't have a save to make. Without goals that Mayo side won't beat Kerry and after finally beating Dublin they need to push on. Unfortunately for them tonight was only a semi final and no trophies were handed out tonight

Its understandable your in bad form after a championship loss, if you ever cared to read my posts, I always speak in high terms about how great this Dublin team is. The best team I have ever seen & I ain't a young fella. Some super players Kilkenny, Mannion, Callaghan, Fenton, O Sullivan, Brogan, Flynn & others to numerous to mention. I coach myself & always mention the Dublin way of playing, 30 yard pass ball bouncing in front of the man. I have defended the financial doping of the squad on other threads.
Last night didn't like the keep ball 10 mins before half time, would rather if they pushed on, they were dirty in the second half & Philly, McCarthy & others let themselves down. I like Fenton as a player he was ok last night, thought all the Dublin players disappeared a bit in the second half & extra time, dont think Farrell is up to much as a manager. Again I admire this Dublin side over the last 10 years, some of them acted the maggot last night & deserved to be on the losing side.

You’re slagging off Fenton for his efforts last night. Your as anti dub as benny cake if you think Fenton went missing last night. Some of his fielding was outstanding and he fought right to the end.

Despite what people think the dubs don’t have an unlimited pool of professional superstars and this defeat has been in the post all season. Younger players need time to find their feet and the Dublin players looked mentally tired and making uncharacteristic mistakes they didn’t make in previous seasons

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: WhoDat on August 15, 2021, 02:16:05 PM
fenton was about the only dublin player who showed up last night
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 15, 2021, 02:28:07 PM
Well done Mayo.

You have been in lockstep with Dublin over the last ten glorious years and have never let us out of your sights. It’s appropriate that you are the ones who were there the day the music died. It was a tough game with neither side holding back but I’m sure that’s the way Mayo would want it – a victory handed to them on a plate would be no use to them. I believe all Dublin supporters will be wishing you all the best in the Final.

As a Dublin fan the last ten years have been a golden era which back in the early 2000s none of us would ever have foreseen. We were blessed to be able to follow the best Gaelic football team that ever was or probably ever will be. The scale of Dublin’s achievement can be appreciated by considering that Mayo’s stunning performance last night would have to be replicated in almost every significant game between now and 2030.     

No I'd have preferred less broken jaws to be honest.

The O'Connor brothers have broken many a jaw over the years.  Them mayo lads would be used to the big hits in training
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 15, 2021, 02:49:33 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

If Basquel scores that goal at the start of the 2nd half the game is done, but all year dubs have been doing things and making errors they never made before. They tried to play keep ball but Mayo pushed up on them and before they new it they were being over run by a far hungrier team.

Despite their struggles all over the pitch from the 2nd half onwards( Rudi's f**king ignorance & Dublin bitterness aside) Brian Fenton was immense tonight and had one of his best ever games in a Dublin jersey. That was an awesome display by him and at times he was the one Dublin player carrying the fight to Mayo.

That was a great win for Mayo tonight and their fans/players should enjoy the victory (especially the fan who backed a draw over 70min at 40-1 and put a tenner on it)

I'd fear for Mayo in the final though. 13 points in 70min won't be anywhere close enough to beat Kerry and Comerford in the goal didn't have a save to make. Without goals that Mayo side won't beat Kerry and after finally beating Dublin they need to push on. Unfortunately for them tonight was only a semi final and no trophies were handed out tonight

Its understandable your in bad form after a championship loss, if you ever cared to read my posts, I always speak in high terms about how great this Dublin team is. The best team I have ever seen & I ain't a young fella. Some super players Kilkenny, Mannion, Callaghan, Fenton, O Sullivan, Brogan, Flynn & others to numerous to mention. I coach myself & always mention the Dublin way of playing, 30 yard pass ball bouncing in front of the man. I have defended the financial doping of the squad on other threads.
Last night didn't like the keep ball 10 mins before half time, would rather if they pushed on, they were dirty in the second half & Philly, McCarthy & others let themselves down. I like Fenton as a player he was ok last night, thought all the Dublin players disappeared a bit in the second half & extra time, dont think Farrell is up to much as a manager. Again I admire this Dublin side over the last 10 years, some of them acted the maggot last night & deserved to be on the losing side.

You’re slagging off Fenton for his efforts last night. Your as anti dub as benny cake if you think Fenton went missing last night. Some of his fielding was outstanding and he fought right to the end.

Despite what people think the dubs don’t have an unlimited pool of professional superstars and this defeat has been in the post all season. Younger players need time to find their feet and the Dublin players looked mentally tired and making uncharacteristic mistakes they didn’t make in previous seasons

Get a grip, man. “He was ok last night” is slagging someone off?  You’re a hyper sensitive Dub. Any slight criticism of any Dublin player or their performance  and you’re out with the claws.  Take off your blue glasses and accept  that people have an opinion that might differ from yours.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 15, 2021, 02:54:29 PM
I’m kind of surprised Dublin7 hasn’t discussed the dirt on show last night. He’s usually very vocal on such matters with other teams.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: JoG2 on August 15, 2021, 02:56:43 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

If Basquel scores that goal at the start of the 2nd half the game is done, but all year dubs have been doing things and making errors they never made before. They tried to play keep ball but Mayo pushed up on them and before they new it they were being over run by a far hungrier team.

Despite their struggles all over the pitch from the 2nd half onwards( Rudi's f**king ignorance & Dublin bitterness aside) Brian Fenton was immense tonight and had one of his best ever games in a Dublin jersey. That was an awesome display by him and at times he was the one Dublin player carrying the fight to Mayo.

That was a great win for Mayo tonight and their fans/players should enjoy the victory (especially the fan who backed a draw over 70min at 40-1 and put a tenner on it)

I'd fear for Mayo in the final though. 13 points in 70min won't be anywhere close enough to beat Kerry and Comerford in the goal didn't have a save to make. Without goals that Mayo side won't beat Kerry and after finally beating Dublin they need to push on. Unfortunately for them tonight was only a semi final and no trophies were handed out tonight

Its understandable your in bad form after a championship loss, if you ever cared to read my posts, I always speak in high terms about how great this Dublin team is. The best team I have ever seen & I ain't a young fella. Some super players Kilkenny, Mannion, Callaghan, Fenton, O Sullivan, Brogan, Flynn & others to numerous to mention. I coach myself & always mention the Dublin way of playing, 30 yard pass ball bouncing in front of the man. I have defended the financial doping of the squad on other threads.
Last night didn't like the keep ball 10 mins before half time, would rather if they pushed on, they were dirty in the second half & Philly, McCarthy & others let themselves down. I like Fenton as a player he was ok last night, thought all the Dublin players disappeared a bit in the second half & extra time, dont think Farrell is up to much as a manager. Again I admire this Dublin side over the last 10 years, some of them acted the maggot last night & deserved to be on the losing side.

You’re slagging off Fenton for his efforts last night. Your as anti dub as benny cake if you think Fenton went missing last night. Some of his fielding was outstanding and he fought right to the end.

Despite what people think the dubs don’t have an unlimited pool of professional superstars and this defeat has been in the post all season. Younger players need time to find their feet and the Dublin players looked mentally tired and making uncharacteristic mistakes they didn’t make in previous seasons

Get a grip, man. “He was ok last night” is slagging someone off?  You’re a hyper sensitive Dub. Any slight criticism of any Dublin player or their performance  and you’re out with the claws.  Take off your blue glasses and accept  that people have an opinion that might differ from yours.

Apart from you binliddery on Covid Benny, you should do a sporting Podcast. Pick a sportsperson, Messi, Cillian O'C, Fenton etc and do a special on each. I know I'd listen for the craic.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 15, 2021, 03:05:59 PM
How many are we saying was in the stadium? It definitely wasn’t 24,000
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 15, 2021, 03:14:41 PM
Well done Mayo.

You have been in lockstep with Dublin over the last ten glorious years and have never let us out of your sights. It’s appropriate that you are the ones who were there the day the music died. It was a tough game with neither side holding back but I’m sure that’s the way Mayo would want it – a victory handed to them on a plate would be no use to them. I believe all Dublin supporters will be wishing you all the best in the Final.

As a Dublin fan the last ten years have been a golden era which back in the early 2000s none of us would ever have foreseen. We were blessed to be able to follow the best Gaelic football team that ever was or probably ever will be. The scale of Dublin’s achievement can be appreciated by considering that Mayo’s stunning performance last night would have to be replicated in almost every significant game between now and 2030.     

No I'd have preferred less broken jaws to be honest.

The O'Connor brothers have broken many a jaw over the years.  Them mayo lads would be used to the big hits in training

List them all like a good ladeen.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 15, 2021, 03:15:43 PM
Dublin went out but not with Grace. I loved the way Dublin gave played past 7 or, 8 yrs with good attacking half backs and a great forward line. Past 3/4 yrs alot of these great players are gone and Dublin have fell away. They become a very unlikeable team past couple of yrs, mostly down to McMahon and Cooper. Somebody said Mayo didn't beat the great Dublin team but again this is not the great Mayo Team of 5yrs ago either. The 2 Smalls should seen the line, David Byrne should had 2 yellow also. The black card offence would need revisited again I fear. Dublin actual black card was 50/50. But a blatant pull bck by Byrne should be a black card offense. Didn't see the Mccarthy incidents so can't comment. In all I thought Dublin were pretty underhand at times last night.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Halfquarter on August 15, 2021, 03:27:37 PM
Dublin went out but not with Grace. I loved the way Dublin gave played past 7 or, 8 yrs with good attacking half backs and a great forward line. Past 3/4 yrs alot of these great players are gone and Dublin have fell away. They become a very unlikeable team past couple of yrs, mostly down to McMahon and Cooper. Somebody said Mayo didn't beat the great Dublin team but again this is not the great Mayo Team of 5yrs ago either. The 2 Smalls should seen the line, David Byrne should had 2 yellow also. The black card offence would need revisited again I fear. Dublin actual black card was 50/50. But a blatant pull bck by Byrne should be a black card offense. Didn't see the Mccarthy incidents so can't comment. In all I thought Dublin were pretty underhand at times last night.

The Dubs can be as dirty as they want too, because there are no consequences for them , Referees have being turning a blind eye for years.

A few black cards last night when the game was over does not make up for the cynicism of the last few years.

Philly was sent on last night to cause trouble, not to play football, it backfired spectacularly.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 15, 2021, 03:39:40 PM
Well done Mayo.

You have been in lockstep with Dublin over the last ten glorious years and have never let us out of your sights. It’s appropriate that you are the ones who were there the day the music died. It was a tough game with neither side holding back but I’m sure that’s the way Mayo would want it – a victory handed to them on a plate would be no use to them. I believe all Dublin supporters will be wishing you all the best in the Final.

As a Dublin fan the last ten years have been a golden era which back in the early 2000s none of us would ever have foreseen. We were blessed to be able to follow the best Gaelic football team that ever was or probably ever will be. The scale of Dublin’s achievement can be appreciated by considering that Mayo’s stunning performance last night would have to be replicated in almost every significant game between now and 2030.     
Sorry but that’s just a patronising euphemism towards Mayo.  James McCarthy elbowed O’Connor in the throat, McLaughlin out stone cold with possible broken jaw, McCarthy throwing his man to the ground, McMahon being a dick, and god knows what else.  Don’t be giving it the aul no quarter asked nor given treatment. 
The ‘spade a spade’ for me is Dublin have had some fine teams, great players and we’re wxtremely modest and gracious victors, and hats off to them breaking all records, but you have to call out yesterday for what it was.
Yep have to say, the Dubs don’t like it when it’s not going their way, you’d expect better from James McCarthy. Absolute thuggery and the foul at the last was plain stupid.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 15, 2021, 03:43:40 PM
Dublin went out but not with Grace. I loved the way Dublin gave played past 7 or, 8 yrs with good attacking half backs and a great forward line. Past 3/4 yrs alot of these great players are gone and Dublin have fell away. They become a very unlikeable team past couple of yrs, mostly down to McMahon and Cooper. Somebody said Mayo didn't beat the great Dublin team but again this is not the great Mayo Team of 5yrs ago either. The 2 Smalls should seen the line, David Byrne should had 2 yellow also. The black card offence would need revisited again I fear. Dublin actual black card was 50/50. But a blatant pull bck by Byrne should be a black card offense. Didn't see the Mccarthy incidents so can't comment. In all I thought Dublin were pretty underhand at times last night.

I think Byrne did get two yellows. One in normal time and one in ET. I thought the commentators said there was a new rule where yellow cards were erased come extra time

He should have gone for that jersey tug though
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 15, 2021, 03:47:57 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

If Basquel scores that goal at the start of the 2nd half the game is done, but all year dubs have been doing things and making errors they never made before. They tried to play keep ball but Mayo pushed up on them and before they new it they were being over run by a far hungrier team.

Despite their struggles all over the pitch from the 2nd half onwards( Rudi's f**king ignorance & Dublin bitterness aside) Brian Fenton was immense tonight and had one of his best ever games in a Dublin jersey. That was an awesome display by him and at times he was the one Dublin player carrying the fight to Mayo.

That was a great win for Mayo tonight and their fans/players should enjoy the victory (especially the fan who backed a draw over 70min at 40-1 and put a tenner on it)

I'd fear for Mayo in the final though. 13 points in 70min won't be anywhere close enough to beat Kerry and Comerford in the goal didn't have a save to make. Without goals that Mayo side won't beat Kerry and after finally beating Dublin they need to push on. Unfortunately for them tonight was only a semi final and no trophies were handed out tonight

Its understandable your in bad form after a championship loss, if you ever cared to read my posts, I always speak in high terms about how great this Dublin team is. The best team I have ever seen & I ain't a young fella. Some super players Kilkenny, Mannion, Callaghan, Fenton, O Sullivan, Brogan, Flynn & others to numerous to mention. I coach myself & always mention the Dublin way of playing, 30 yard pass ball bouncing in front of the man. I have defended the financial doping of the squad on other threads.
Last night didn't like the keep ball 10 mins before half time, would rather if they pushed on, they were dirty in the second half & Philly, McCarthy & others let themselves down. I like Fenton as a player he was ok last night, thought all the Dublin players disappeared a bit in the second half & extra time, dont think Farrell is up to much as a manager. Again I admire this Dublin side over the last 10 years, some of them acted the maggot last night & deserved to be on the losing side.

You’re slagging off Fenton for his efforts last night. Your as anti dub as benny cake if you think Fenton went missing last night. Some of his fielding was outstanding and he fought right to the end.

Despite what people think the dubs don’t have an unlimited pool of professional superstars and this defeat has been in the post all season. Younger players need time to find their feet and the Dublin players looked mentally tired and making uncharacteristic mistakes they didn’t make in previous seasons

Get a grip, man. “He was ok last night” is slagging someone off?  You’re a hyper sensitive Dub. Any slight criticism of any Dublin player or their performance  and you’re out with the claws.  Take off your blue glasses and accept  that people have an opinion that might differ from yours.

Apart from you binliddery on Covid Benny, you should do a sporting Podcast. Pick a sportsperson, Messi, Cillian O'C, Fenton etc and do a special on each. I know I'd listen for the craic.

You forgot De Gea  8)
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 15, 2021, 04:02:24 PM
Great chance for Mayo tomorrow. I think they win by 4. Tommy Conroy and Ryan O'Donoghue in top form and keep O'Shea inside. The dubs goalie and full back line is their weakness.  Ryan O'Donoghue is top class freetaker. Only one free missed in 3 games and will need same again tomorrow. The dubs look poor this year. Mayo need to take advantage.

Well I wasn't wrong.  ;)
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: JoG2 on August 15, 2021, 04:03:11 PM
Fair play to Mayo. Horan is an excellent manager. Fair play to Cora for rightly calling out the ref at the end of the 70 mins. Hennelly deserves credit for 3 excellent frees.
Dublin were an indisciplined pack of bully boys, sore losers, no bench & where was the great Brian Fenton? When the going got tough he disappeared. Last time we will see Pilly on a pitch, maybe a late late appearance with Tubs.
Again fair play to Mayo enjoy a great win.

If Basquel scores that goal at the start of the 2nd half the game is done, but all year dubs have been doing things and making errors they never made before. They tried to play keep ball but Mayo pushed up on them and before they new it they were being over run by a far hungrier team.

Despite their struggles all over the pitch from the 2nd half onwards( Rudi's f**king ignorance & Dublin bitterness aside) Brian Fenton was immense tonight and had one of his best ever games in a Dublin jersey. That was an awesome display by him and at times he was the one Dublin player carrying the fight to Mayo.

That was a great win for Mayo tonight and their fans/players should enjoy the victory (especially the fan who backed a draw over 70min at 40-1 and put a tenner on it)

I'd fear for Mayo in the final though. 13 points in 70min won't be anywhere close enough to beat Kerry and Comerford in the goal didn't have a save to make. Without goals that Mayo side won't beat Kerry and after finally beating Dublin they need to push on. Unfortunately for them tonight was only a semi final and no trophies were handed out tonight

Its understandable your in bad form after a championship loss, if you ever cared to read my posts, I always speak in high terms about how great this Dublin team is. The best team I have ever seen & I ain't a young fella. Some super players Kilkenny, Mannion, Callaghan, Fenton, O Sullivan, Brogan, Flynn & others to numerous to mention. I coach myself & always mention the Dublin way of playing, 30 yard pass ball bouncing in front of the man. I have defended the financial doping of the squad on other threads.
Last night didn't like the keep ball 10 mins before half time, would rather if they pushed on, they were dirty in the second half & Philly, McCarthy & others let themselves down. I like Fenton as a player he was ok last night, thought all the Dublin players disappeared a bit in the second half & extra time, dont think Farrell is up to much as a manager. Again I admire this Dublin side over the last 10 years, some of them acted the maggot last night & deserved to be on the losing side.

You’re slagging off Fenton for his efforts last night. Your as anti dub as benny cake if you think Fenton went missing last night. Some of his fielding was outstanding and he fought right to the end.

Despite what people think the dubs don’t have an unlimited pool of professional superstars and this defeat has been in the post all season. Younger players need time to find their feet and the Dublin players looked mentally tired and making uncharacteristic mistakes they didn’t make in previous seasons

Get a grip, man. “He was ok last night” is slagging someone off?  You’re a hyper sensitive Dub. Any slight criticism of any Dublin player or their performance  and you’re out with the claws.  Take off your blue glasses and accept  that people have an opinion that might differ from yours.

Apart from you binliddery on Covid Benny, you should do a sporting Podcast. Pick a sportsperson, Messi, Cillian O'C, Fenton etc and do a special on each. I know I'd listen for the craic.

You forgot De Gea  8)

 ;D A 2 hour special!
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Nanderson on August 15, 2021, 04:06:49 PM
Dublin went out but not with Grace. I loved the way Dublin gave played past 7 or, 8 yrs with good attacking half backs and a great forward line. Past 3/4 yrs alot of these great players are gone and Dublin have fell away. They become a very unlikeable team past couple of yrs, mostly down to McMahon and Cooper. Somebody said Mayo didn't beat the great Dublin team but again this is not the great Mayo Team of 5yrs ago either. The 2 Smalls should seen the line, David Byrne should had 2 yellow also. The black card offence would need revisited again I fear. Dublin actual black card was 50/50. But a blatant pull bck by Byrne should be a black card offense. Didn't see the Mccarthy incidents so can't comment. In all I thought Dublin were pretty underhand at times last night.

I think Byrne did get two yellows. One in normal time and one in ET. I thought the commentators said there was a new rule where yellow cards were erased come extra time

He should have gone for that jersey tug though
What rule would have meant he had to go for a jersey tug? A jersey tug is only a noting offence
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: MayoBuck on August 15, 2021, 05:05:23 PM
Keegan got black carded in the 2016 replay for a cynical pull back, even though it didn't meet one of the black card offences. Con and David Byrne did something similar yesterday. Scully clearly hand tripped Diarmuid O'Connor, although it was during wrestling off the ball so not really cynical play.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 15, 2021, 05:39:50 PM
Keegan got black carded in the 2016 replay for a cynical pull back, even though it didn't meet one of the black card offences. Con and David Byrne did something similar yesterday. Scully clearly hand tripped Diarmuid O'Connor, although it was during wrestling off the ball so not really cynical play.

Ocallaghan should have got the sin bin
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 15, 2021, 05:56:53 PM
Just had a funny thought there.

If Dean Rock had missed that free kick in the 2017 when Keegan threw the GPS at him would it have been retaken?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: rodney trotter on August 15, 2021, 05:58:41 PM
 A double jaw fracture McLaughlin got from the challenge https://t.co/2l6eXaIFQH?amp=1
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 15, 2021, 06:10:01 PM
Wonder if the gaa will take action against small. Actually I know the answer will be no but the ref missed a red card offence resulting in a player with a broken jaw.

That Dublin team has been getting away with cynical play for years. Bad enough about the funding, home venue every game etc but to add in favouritism from the ref no wonder they went unbeaten for years. Christ it took some serious fouling for the ref to give out a few cards when the game was almost over.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 15, 2021, 06:26:45 PM
Wonder if the gaa will take action against small. Actually I know the answer will be no but the ref missed a red card offence resulting in a player with a broken jaw.

That Dublin team has been getting away with cynical play for years. Bad enough about the funding, home venue every game etc but to add in favouritism from the ref no wonder they went unbeaten for years. Christ it took some serious fouling for the ref to give out a few cards when the game was almost over.

But it’s them dirty effin nordie's killing the game with their thuggery and boring football /s
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: clarshack on August 15, 2021, 07:12:29 PM
Wonder if the gaa will take action against small. Actually I know the answer will be no but the ref missed a red card offence resulting in a player with a broken jaw.

That Dublin team has been getting away with cynical play for years. Bad enough about the funding, home venue every game etc but to add in favouritism from the ref no wonder they went unbeaten for years. Christ it took some serious fouling for the ref to give out a few cards when the game was almost over.

Last night reminded me of the Dubs in the bad old days of the Pillar era when the likes of Whelo would just bust some man straight from the the throw-in and get away with it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: fearbrags on August 15, 2021, 07:37:21 PM
History repeating ?
On August 18, 1985, John Finn's jaw was broken in an off-the-ball incident during the All-Ireland football semi-final between Mayo and Dublin
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: dublin7 on August 15, 2021, 08:23:33 PM
Small should be suspended. Whatever suspension Diarmuid O'Connor got for his elbow against Galway that got him a red card would be fair enough.

If we are looking for more recent comparisons then whatever suspension was applied to Niall Morgan who wasn't sent off for breaking Paddy Andrews jaw last season
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Eire90 on August 15, 2021, 08:33:26 PM
Last nights result makes next years championship more interesting from a storyline perspective the whole can the dubs bounce back and regain the title thing.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on August 15, 2021, 09:09:01 PM
Wonder if the gaa will take action against small. Actually I know the answer will be no but the ref missed a red card offence resulting in a player with a broken jaw.

That Dublin team has been getting away with cynical play for years. Bad enough about the funding, home venue every game etc but to add in favouritism from the ref no wonder they went unbeaten for years. Christ it took some serious fouling for the ref to give out a few cards when the game was almost over.

Last night reminded me of the Dubs in the bad old days of the Pillar era when the likes of Whelo would just bust some man straight from the the throw-in and get away with it.

Last time Dublin lost regularly. So was it always there?

Dubs lost their cool, then the plot, then the game
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 15, 2021, 09:28:00 PM
Wonder if the gaa will take action against small. Actually I know the answer will be no but the ref missed a red card offence resulting in a player with a broken jaw.

That Dublin team has been getting away with cynical play for years. Bad enough about the funding, home venue every game etc but to add in favouritism from the ref no wonder they went unbeaten for years. Christ it took some serious fouling for the ref to give out a few cards when the game was almost over.

100% agree with your last paragraph. Apparently one of the Dublin players spat in the face of one of the Mayo players in the tunnel after the game as well. Hope he hasn't Covid if true.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 15, 2021, 09:30:05 PM
Wonder if the gaa will take action against small. Actually I know the answer will be no but the ref missed a red card offence resulting in a player with a broken jaw.

That Dublin team has been getting away with cynical play for years. Bad enough about the funding, home venue every game etc but to add in favouritism from the ref no wonder they went unbeaten for years. Christ it took some serious fouling for the ref to give out a few cards when the game was almost over.

100% agree with your last paragraph. Apparently one of the Dublin players spat in the face of one of the Mayo players in the tunnel after the game as well. Hope he hasn't Covid if true.

Where have you heard this?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 15, 2021, 09:50:26 PM
Wonder if the gaa will take action against small. Actually I know the answer will be no but the ref missed a red card offence resulting in a player with a broken jaw.

That Dublin team has been getting away with cynical play for years. Bad enough about the funding, home venue every game etc but to add in favouritism from the ref no wonder they went unbeaten for years. Christ it took some serious fouling for the ref to give out a few cards when the game was almost over.

Last night reminded me of the Dubs in the bad old days of the Pillar era when the likes of Whelo would just bust some man straight from the the throw-in and get away with it.

Last time Dublin lost regularly. So was it always there?

Dubs lost their cool, then the plot, then the game

Apparently Kilkenny lost his shit in the dressing room. Called Dessie Farrell an imposter and fanny-pad and told him to fcuk off back to milking a living from the GPA. Gravy train heading south.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2021, 10:10:03 PM
How many Dublin players were on the field at the end? 12 or 13?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 15, 2021, 10:26:56 PM
How many Dublin players were on the field at the end? 12 or 13?


13. Should've been 12 but actually 14 if you count the ref
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 15, 2021, 10:29:43 PM
Sunday game showing a few more strikes by the small brothers. Absolute tramps, closed fist off the ball strikes.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: WhoDat on August 15, 2021, 10:30:49 PM
Wonder if the gaa will take action against small. Actually I know the answer will be no but the ref missed a red card offence resulting in a player with a broken jaw.

That Dublin team has been getting away with cynical play for years. Bad enough about the funding, home venue every game etc but to add in favouritism from the ref no wonder they went unbeaten for years. Christ it took some serious fouling for the ref to give out a few cards when the game was almost over.

100% agree with your last paragraph. Apparently one of the Dublin players spat in the face of one of the Mayo players in the tunnel after the game as well. Hope he hasn't Covid if true.

who was spitting? find it hard to believe as dublin headed back into the dressing rooms while mayo stayed on the pitch a while after
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Halfquarter on August 15, 2021, 10:31:58 PM
Ach I really hope he’s ok for the final and it’s not a broken jaw.  How the ref let play continue I do not know.
I remember Dublin emptying Peter Crowley with a late hit in the last play of the semi-final a few years ago and the ref ignored it that day as well and it swung the game. 
Yesterday was ridiculous, the ref actually kept looking back, it was clear McLaughlin hit the ground like a sack of spuds, but he let Dublin if for a goal chance anyway.

Disgusting piece of thuggery from Small,double broken jaw for McLaughlin, will miss the All Ireland.

As for McStay not calling it out, he’s gone way down in my estimation.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on August 15, 2021, 10:33:43 PM
Just had a funny thought there.

If Dean Rock had missed that free kick in the 2017 when Keegan threw the GPS at him would it have been retaken?

Quite possibly, if one or other of the teams had more than fifteen players on the pitch at the time, which is why Lane ordered the retake last night.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 15, 2021, 10:34:39 PM
Wonder if the gaa will take action against small. Actually I know the answer will be no but the ref missed a red card offence resulting in a player with a broken jaw.

That Dublin team has been getting away with cynical play for years. Bad enough about the funding, home venue every game etc but to add in favouritism from the ref no wonder they went unbeaten for years. Christ it took some serious fouling for the ref to give out a few cards when the game was almost over.

100% agree with your last paragraph. Apparently one of the Dublin players spat in the face of one of the Mayo players in the tunnel after the game as well. Hope he hasn't Covid if true.

who was spitting? find it hard to believe as dublin headed back into the dressing rooms while mayo stayed on the pitch a while after

I know, that's why I said apparently. I'm not naming amyone in case it isn't true. Hopefully it isn't true.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on August 15, 2021, 10:35:46 PM
Ach I really hope he’s ok for the final and it’s not a broken jaw.  How the ref let play continue I do not know.
I remember Dublin emptying Peter Crowley with a late hit in the last play of the semi-final a few years ago and the ref ignored it that day as well and it swung the game. 
Yesterday was ridiculous, the ref actually kept looking back, it was clear McLaughlin hit the ground like a sack of spuds, but he let Dublin if for a goal chance anyway.

Disgusting piece of thuggery from Small,double broken jaw for McLaughlin, will miss the All Ireland.

As for McStay not calling it out, he’s gone way down in my estimation.

I'm amazed how many people thought it was a fair challenge when they first saw it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: imtommygunn on August 15, 2021, 10:36:05 PM
Has John small not been sent off more times than anyone else in all Ireland finals? Not new for him to not be the cleanest.

Every winning team in Gaelic has players who has no angels in them. McCarthy and small in particular for Dublin, Tomas O’Se, Peter Crowley for Kerry, McGee in particular for Donegal, Tyrone had a few, Armagh had a few etc. Not specific to Dublin. Mayo have one or two as well lol. I wouldn’t say a couple of boys being dirty hallions ruins their reputation. Pretty much every successful Gaa team in history has a few.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: ardtole on August 15, 2021, 10:37:00 PM
Ach I really hope he’s ok for the final and it’s not a broken jaw.  How the ref let play continue I do not know.
I remember Dublin emptying Peter Crowley with a late hit in the last play of the semi-final a few years ago and the ref ignored it that day as well and it swung the game. 
Yesterday was ridiculous, the ref actually kept looking back, it was clear McLaughlin hit the ground like a sack of spuds, but he let Dublin if for a goal chance anyway.

Disgusting piece of thuggery from Small,double broken jaw for McLaughlin, will miss the All Ireland.

As for McStay not calling it out, he’s gone way down in my estimation.

McStay was terrible last night. Has he a chip on his shoulder after being overlooked for the mayo job?.

I couldnt believe what I was hearing at times. If he is covering the final, I think id switch over to sky
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: WhoDat on August 15, 2021, 10:41:02 PM
mcstay was a parody on the commentary. preoccupied with appearing unbiased and subsequently way overcompensated
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 15, 2021, 10:44:22 PM
How many Dublin players were on the field at the end? 12 or 13?

13, Byrne got two yellows but one in normal and extra time so wasn’t a red
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Never beat the deeler on August 15, 2021, 10:46:28 PM
A double jaw fracture McLaughlin got from the challenge https://t.co/2l6eXaIFQH?amp=1

where did you hear this? The article you have linked doesn't mention it
Thanks
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: straightred on August 15, 2021, 10:46:40 PM
So the 45 was retaken because Mayo had 16 players on the pitch. Seems strange to penalise Dublin for a Mayo mistake ?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Never beat the deeler on August 15, 2021, 10:49:38 PM
A double jaw fracture McLaughlin got from the challenge https://t.co/2l6eXaIFQH?amp=1

where did you hear this? The article you have linked doesn't mention it
Thanks

Just spotted the same article was tweeted from the RTE account with "double jaw fracture" in the headline. Looks like it was subsequently amended.
Off The Ball had Pilar Caffrey on and he was still claiming it wasn't a foul as he had watched it multiple times. You couldn't make it up
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: gallsman on August 15, 2021, 10:53:04 PM
Sunday game showing a few more strikes by the small brothers. Absolute tramps, closed fist off the ball strikes.

There was only one from Paddy that I recall, that was featured prominently in the live coverage of the game. It was on the ball as he fouled, you know, the man with the ball. Should have been red.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2021, 10:57:15 PM
Ach I really hope he’s ok for the final and it’s not a broken jaw.  How the ref let play continue I do not know.
I remember Dublin emptying Peter Crowley with a late hit in the last play of the semi-final a few years ago and the ref ignored it that day as well and it swung the game. 
Yesterday was ridiculous, the ref actually kept looking back, it was clear McLaughlin hit the ground like a sack of spuds, but he let Dublin if for a goal chance anyway.

Disgusting piece of thuggery from Small,double broken jaw for McLaughlin, will miss the All Ireland.

As for McStay not calling it out, he’s gone way down in my estimation.

I'm amazed how many people thought it was a fair challenge when they first saw it.

I don't think it was a clear-cut foul. It looked more like Small went to meet him shoulder to shoulder but McLaughlin changed stance at the last minute.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 15, 2021, 11:00:34 PM
Sunday game showing a few more strikes by the small brothers. Absolute tramps, closed fist off the ball strikes.

There was only one from Paddy that I recall, that was featured prominently in the live coverage of the game. It was on the ball as he fouled, you know, the man with the ball. Should have been red.

There was another one where it looked like a high challenge but it was a closed fist to the jaw by paddy. Then the other one was another closed fist to the jaw at the end of the 2nd half, same time as McCarthy elbow strike.

https://twitter.com/josephg99507130/status/1427017817556234248?s=19
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: gallsman on August 15, 2021, 11:14:04 PM
Ach I really hope he’s ok for the final and it’s not a broken jaw.  How the ref let play continue I do not know.
I remember Dublin emptying Peter Crowley with a late hit in the last play of the semi-final a few years ago and the ref ignored it that day as well and it swung the game. 
Yesterday was ridiculous, the ref actually kept looking back, it was clear McLaughlin hit the ground like a sack of spuds, but he let Dublin if for a goal chance anyway.

Disgusting piece of thuggery from Small,double broken jaw for McLaughlin, will miss the All Ireland.

As for McStay not calling it out, he’s gone way down in my estimation.

I'm amazed how many people thought it was a fair challenge when they first saw it.

I don't think it was a clear-cut foul. It looked more like Small went to meet him shoulder to shoulder but McLaughlin changed stance at the last minute.

Calling it thuggery is nonsense. He wasn't trying to smash hits jaw with a shoulder ffs.

Small went to do him and lined him up, as he's perfectly entitled to do. He fucked up the angle and was reckless, smacking McLaughlin square in the jaw, causing a horrific injury. Red card all day long and a hefty suspension. That's all there is to it. How Conor Lane didn't stop the game for the head injury I'll never know. McLaughlin was out and flat on the ground in milliseconds.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Never beat the deeler on August 15, 2021, 11:29:24 PM
Ach I really hope he’s ok for the final and it’s not a broken jaw.  How the ref let play continue I do not know.
I remember Dublin emptying Peter Crowley with a late hit in the last play of the semi-final a few years ago and the ref ignored it that day as well and it swung the game. 
Yesterday was ridiculous, the ref actually kept looking back, it was clear McLaughlin hit the ground like a sack of spuds, but he let Dublin if for a goal chance anyway.

Disgusting piece of thuggery from Small,double broken jaw for McLaughlin, will miss the All Ireland.

As for McStay not calling it out, he’s gone way down in my estimation.

I'm amazed how many people thought it was a fair challenge when they first saw it.

I don't think it was a clear-cut foul. It looked more like Small went to meet him shoulder to shoulder but McLaughlin changed stance at the last minute.

Calling it thuggery is nonsense. He wasn't trying to smash hits jaw with a shoulder ffs.

Small went to do him and lined him up, as he's perfectly entitled to do. He fucked up the angle and was reckless, smacking McLaughlin square in the jaw, causing a horrific injury. Red card all day long and a hefty suspension. That's all there is to it. How Conor Lane didn't stop the game for the head injury I'll never know. McLaughlin was out and flat on the ground in milliseconds.

This is pretty much my view on it, and Billy Joe Padden had the same sentiment on Off the Ball. If you are going in to hit someone hard and fair, the onus is on you not to hit the player high. If you (accidentally or otherwise) hit the player in the face, it should be a suspension. Player safety should be paramount as it is in other physical team sports like rugby and AFL.
Watching it on TV, it never looked to me like it was square as McL was facing Small, and it looked like straight into the chest. Was clear Eoghan was in trouble and ref should have stopped play
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 15, 2021, 11:41:45 PM
Quite funny that over the past ten seasons Mayo seem to have operated on a strict two years on two years off in regards to All Ireland finals

2012,13
2014,15
2016,17
2018,19
2020,21
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 15, 2021, 11:43:58 PM
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How many Dublin players were on the field at the end? 12 or 13?

I was never much use at the sums but not bad at the auld English so zero “players” is me answer.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 15, 2021, 11:44:29 PM
Also worth noting that, in those ten seasons, Mayo have contested as many finals as Dublin have. So if they could win after all it would be great!
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 15, 2021, 11:45:29 PM
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How many Dublin players were on the field at the end? 12 or 13?

I was never much use at the sums but not bad at the auld English so zero “players” is me answer.

Ah no, I’d give Fenton is due credit in all fairness
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: RedHand88 on August 15, 2021, 11:46:15 PM
Ach I really hope he’s ok for the final and it’s not a broken jaw.  How the ref let play continue I do not know.
I remember Dublin emptying Peter Crowley with a late hit in the last play of the semi-final a few years ago and the ref ignored it that day as well and it swung the game. 
Yesterday was ridiculous, the ref actually kept looking back, it was clear McLaughlin hit the ground like a sack of spuds, but he let Dublin if for a goal chance anyway.

Disgusting piece of thuggery from Small,double broken jaw for McLaughlin, will miss the All Ireland.

As for McStay not calling it out, he’s gone way down in my estimation.

I'm amazed how many people thought it was a fair challenge when they first saw it.

I don't think it was a clear-cut foul. It looked more like Small went to meet him shoulder to shoulder but McLaughlin changed stance at the last minute.

So it's McLaughlins fault.

Christ.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 15, 2021, 11:46:38 PM
I’ll be honest in saying that I thought in real time it was a great hit. I’ve hated how sanitised the game has become in recent years where every little personal foul is penalised and petty challenges are punished with yellow cards. I like to see a bit of physicality in the game and perfectly timed ‘big hits’ have almost become a thing of the past. The biggest mistake Lane made was in not stopping the play when it was clear that McLoughlin had suffered a heavy hit. Then taken his time and consulted with his officials. When he allowed play to continue he almost had to double down on that original decision and therefore took no action.

I still think Small was perfectly entitled to go for the hit but the connection was not square on the shoulder and he intentionally left a bit on the opponent. It’s desperate for McLoughlin firstly to suffer such a bad injury and then to miss out on the blue riband event of the GAA calendar as a result but with the abuse that Lane has received since, referees will be very cautious about allowing a degree of physical contact going forward. The easy option will be to blow the whistle if in doubt which does nothing for the game as a spectacle. The abuse that Lane has got from some highly paid media pundits sitting in their ivory towers has been way over the top. He made some poor decisions but he’ll not be feeling good since the match.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Stall the Bailer on August 16, 2021, 12:08:06 AM
The angle Small was coming at meant he never could hit him fair, it was always going to be a frontal charge at best. A side by side was not possible. The first booking in game was a yellow for this as no contact was made with the head. In the small tackle it should have been red. The angle Lane had may have been poor to see the contact to head, but he should have known it wasn't a side to side shoulder.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 16, 2021, 01:12:08 AM
Utter filth-bag tackle from Small.  Dublin have actively coached such thuggery since Pillar's day, an exponent of dirtbag thuggery himself. The Dubs have always got away with it. Ciaran Whelan, the perrenial failure, was 100% thug and part-time player. Anyone remember him choosing to punch the Tyrone player in the jaw rather than compete for the ball at 2005 AIQF thrown-in?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 16, 2021, 01:33:54 AM
Sunday game showing a few more strikes by the small brothers. Absolute tramps, closed fist off the ball strikes.

Which Tyrone “tr**p” broke Paddy Andrews’ jaw? The sanctimonious bull**it from Tyrone supporters is sickening. Come on Kerry.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 16, 2021, 01:47:11 AM
Sunday game showing a few more strikes by the small brothers. Absolute tramps, closed fist off the ball strikes.

Which Tyrone “tr**p” broke Paddy Andrews’ jaw? The sanctimonious bull**it from Tyrone supporters is sickening. Come on Kerry.

Calm yourself.. loser
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 16, 2021, 06:56:17 AM
Sunday game showing a few more strikes by the small brothers. Absolute tramps, closed fist off the ball strikes.

Which Tyrone “tr**p” broke Paddy Andrews’ jaw? The sanctimonious bull**it from Tyrone supporters is sickening. Come on Kerry.
Morgan tackle just missed his shoulder. Small was a full frontal challenge. Bit of a difference. If you called out Morgan for it then you should have no issue calling out small.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2021, 07:29:13 AM
Agree with a few sentiments here. Definitely a red card but highly unlikely small went to do what he did. Small goes for big hits and takes chances with them. Remember his photo of the hit on keaney in the club? Red card all day long and definitely a bit on the wreckless side but highly unlikely he meant it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: mouview on August 16, 2021, 09:22:14 AM
Has John small not been sent off more times than anyone else in all Ireland finals? Not new for him to not be the cleanest.

Every winning team in Gaelic has players who has no angels in them. McCarthy and small in particular for Dublin, Tomas O’Se, Peter Crowley for Kerry, McGee in particular for Donegal, Tyrone had a few, Armagh had a few etc. Not specific to Dublin. Mayo have one or two as well lol. I wouldn’t say a couple of boys being dirty hallions ruins their reputation. Pretty much every successful Gaa team in history has a few.

Ahem... Galway 98 - 01 were a superb team that concentrated on playing the game as it should. Don't know had they few if any players sent off in that time. (Maybe De Paor v NY IIRC).
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2021, 09:25:16 AM
Tbf most of them weren't dirty but the big guy in midfield O'Domhnaill ? wasn't the cleanest IIRC and I could be wrong but was never sure on Divilly... They were one of the cleanest tbf.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 16, 2021, 09:58:01 AM
First time logging in since Friday, Haven't read any of the previous comments on this thread yet about the match, I don't think i will, i can only imagine, if the same as social media afterwards... I just don't have the energy, presumably Small and McMahon coming in for stick, etc,  but nothing new there, win or lose.

Well I am sure you all delighted also. Congratulations to Mayo, better team overall on the day, congrats to the Mayo fans on here also, some are decent skins.

On Dublin, gave me, my family and my friends the best decade of our lives supporting them. Owe nobody nothing. Will be back next year and be there or there abouts (Hoping Mannion and Jack come back!!) but after next year, i can see a decline again, and again and could be some barren years ahead. to my knowledge, nothing coming through to the talent of what there has been there the last few years. Good yes, but Fenton, Con, Kilkenny good, no.

Best of luck Mayo in the final.

I will add, and i know this will not go down well, The Small hit, a great hit, dont care what anyone says and wont change my mind, one of the best hits ever, pity about the goal chance after it.....  A pity the about the injury too, unfortunate, GAA going soft, people going soft. ..
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 16, 2021, 10:24:43 AM
Has John small not been sent off more times than anyone else in all Ireland finals? Not new for him to not be the cleanest.

Every winning team in Gaelic has players who has no angels in them. McCarthy and small in particular for Dublin, Tomas O’Se, Peter Crowley for Kerry, McGee in particular for Donegal, Tyrone had a few, Armagh had a few etc. Not specific to Dublin. Mayo have one or two as well lol. I wouldn’t say a couple of boys being dirty hallions ruins their reputation. Pretty much every successful Gaa team in history has a few.

Tyrone players like Ricey, Gormley and Jordan gave a bit of verbals but no out and out thugs on the team like Whelan and Small.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: gallsman on August 16, 2021, 10:30:13 AM

I will add, and i know this will not go down well, The Small hit, a great hit, dont care what anyone says and wont change my mind, one of the best hits ever, pity about the goal chance after it.....  A pity the about the injury too, unfortunate, GAA going soft, people going soft. ..

This kind of attitude is a problem in the GAA. You are not allowed shoulder people in the jaw. End of discussion. It was a disgraceful hit
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 16, 2021, 10:39:42 AM
Has John small not been sent off more times than anyone else in all Ireland finals? Not new for him to not be the cleanest.

Every winning team in Gaelic has players who has no angels in them. McCarthy and small in particular for Dublin, Tomas O’Se, Peter Crowley for Kerry, McGee in particular for Donegal, Tyrone had a few, Armagh had a few etc. Not specific to Dublin. Mayo have one or two as well lol. I wouldn’t say a couple of boys being dirty hallions ruins their reputation. Pretty much every successful Gaa team in history has a few.

Tyrone players like Ricey, Gormley and Jordan gave a bit of verbals but no out and out thugs on the team like Whelan and Small.

I'll just leave this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQFCW1QeUcY
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 16, 2021, 10:41:31 AM

I will add, and i know this will not go down well, The Small hit, a great hit, dont care what anyone says and wont change my mind, one of the best hits ever, pity about the goal chance after it.....  A pity the about the injury too, unfortunate, GAA going soft, people going soft. ..

This kind of attitude is a problem in the GAA. You are not allowed shoulder people in the jaw. End of discussion. It was a disgraceful hit

No its not. Small he wanted to dispossess the player, lined it up perfectly, unfortunate about the last second contact. If it happened in a Kerry Tyrone or Leitrim Sligo  match I wouldn't be logging in here looking for blood, but because its Dublin, because its Small, because people love putting the boot in.

One of my club players went viral due to be on the receiving end of a monster monster hit, quite similar, but we were not looking for blood after it because who the team or player was.

O Se called Dublin defenders and defending savages, or bunch of savages, hes right. Tough hard defending, that threads the line and pops over the line from time to time. It has been a key component of our success, wouldn't have it any other way.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Whishtup on August 16, 2021, 11:08:54 AM
Not a fan of the 'hit' in football or hurling on someone whose body is in any way 'open'.  But it's nearly expected at this stage . The difference of a couple of inches makes it look bad but I'm sure there was no intent to strike the head.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: gallsman on August 16, 2021, 11:10:05 AM

I will add, and i know this will not go down well, The Small hit, a great hit, dont care what anyone says and wont change my mind, one of the best hits ever, pity about the goal chance after it.....  A pity the about the injury too, unfortunate, GAA going soft, people going soft. ..

This kind of attitude is a problem in the GAA. You are not allowed shoulder people in the jaw. End of discussion. It was a disgraceful hit
Can it be called disgraceful if he didn’t mean it but just fucked up the angle?
I mean if you’re arguing that it isn’t thuggery, how can it be disgraceful?

Because it was reckless. Intent is irrelevant. Outcome and consequence matter. Small is responsible for a fellow footballer having a double jaw fracture and missing an all-Ireland final.

Again, it can't be called thuggery, and shouldn't be, as I don't for a second think he lined up McLaughlin looking to do him serious injury.

If you can't see the difference between those two things, you're part of the problem.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: gallsman on August 16, 2021, 11:15:52 AM

I will add, and i know this will not go down well, The Small hit, a great hit, dont care what anyone says and wont change my mind, one of the best hits ever, pity about the goal chance after it.....  A pity the about the injury too, unfortunate, GAA going soft, people going soft. ..

This kind of attitude is a problem in the GAA. You are not allowed shoulder people in the jaw. End of discussion. It was a disgraceful hit

No its not. Small he wanted to dispossess the player, lined it up perfectly, unfortunate about the last second contact. If it happened in a Kerry Tyrone or Leitrim Sligo  match I wouldn't be logging in here looking for blood, but because its Dublin, because its Small, because people love putting the boot in.

One of my club players went viral due to be on the receiving end of a monster monster hit, quite similar, but we were not looking for blood after it because who the team or player was.

O Se called Dublin defenders and defending savages, or bunch of savages, hes right. Tough hard defending, that threads the line and pops over the line from time to time. It has been a key component of our success, wouldn't have it any other way.

He didn't line it up perfectly in the slightest. He fucked it up completely. Besides, your original post mentioned no error on Small's part. You described it as a "great hit" and "one of the best hits ever" so you've already started your backtracking to be honest

Nobody is disputing that he's allowed to line him up and plant him, but he is responsible for his actions, and actions have consequences.

Nobody is out looking for blood, people simply would like to see the rules of the game enforced. There is no scenario where Small's hit shouldn't have been a straight red card. With due respect to your clubman, the hit he took wasn't in an All Ireland semi final watched live by hundreds of thousands of people and covered by the national press, so your, I guess comparison, is pretty pointless.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: dublin7 on August 16, 2021, 11:16:04 AM
Sunday game showing a few more strikes by the small brothers. Absolute tramps, closed fist off the ball strikes.

Which Tyrone “tr**p” broke Paddy Andrews’ jaw? The sanctimonious bull**it from Tyrone supporters is sickening. Come on Kerry.
Morgan tackle just missed his shoulder. Small was a full frontal challenge. Bit of a difference. If you called out Morgan for it then you should have no issue calling out small.

Just missed his shoulder. Classic!! John Small should receive the same suspension Morgan got after his cheap shot. Unfortunately for John the rest of the country (especially Mayo fans) are demanding retribution so while Morgan got away scott free he'll get a suspension. A one game ban similar to the suspension given to Diarmuid O'Connor for his elbow to the galway player is only right in this instance

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/dublin-s-paddy-andrews-out-for-at-least-six-weeks-with-broken-jaw-1.3831776

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 16, 2021, 11:28:28 AM
Sunday game showing a few more strikes by the small brothers. Absolute tramps, closed fist off the ball strikes.

Which Tyrone “tr**p” broke Paddy Andrews’ jaw? The sanctimonious bull**it from Tyrone supporters is sickening. Come on Kerry.
Morgan tackle just missed his shoulder. Small was a full frontal challenge. Bit of a difference. If you called out Morgan for it then you should have no issue calling out small.

Just missed his shoulder. Classic!! John Small should receive the same suspension Morgan got after his cheap shot. Unfortunately for John the rest of the country (especially Mayo fans) are demanding retribution so while Morgan got away scott free he'll get a suspension. A one game ban similar to the suspension given to Diarmuid O'Connor for his elbow to the galway player is only right in this instance

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/dublin-s-paddy-andrews-out-for-at-least-six-weeks-with-broken-jaw-1.3831776
Morgan came in from the side, badly timed and could have had no complaints if he had been given a card.
But it’s not on the same level as that tackle by small which was frontal In my opinion. That said, While I think it was badly timed and reckless it happens regularly. It’s the injuries and stage of the competition that has given this more media attention.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 16, 2021, 11:48:52 AM

I will add, and i know this will not go down well, The Small hit, a great hit, dont care what anyone says and wont change my mind, one of the best hits ever, pity about the goal chance after it.....  A pity the about the injury too, unfortunate, GAA going soft, people going soft. ..

This kind of attitude is a problem in the GAA. You are not allowed shoulder people in the jaw. End of discussion. It was a disgraceful hit
Can it be called disgraceful if he didn’t mean it but just fucked up the angle?
I mean if you’re arguing that it isn’t thuggery, how can it be disgraceful?

Because it was reckless. Intent is irrelevant. Outcome and consequence matter. Small is responsible for a fellow footballer having a double jaw fracture and missing an all-Ireland final.

Again, it can't be called thuggery, and shouldn't be, as I don't for a second think he lined up McLaughlin looking to do him serious injury.

If you can't see the difference between those two things, you're part of the problem.
You are saying that he tried to challenge him fairly but a slight error in the execution caused a bad injury. If he didn’t mean it, it’s harsh to call it disgraceful.

Small was directly in front of him as he lined him up

That chances of executing a clean and fair shoulder to shoulder challenge  were borderline impossible given the angles

Whether he meant it or not is immaterial. He took it and missed it and it’s a straight red all day long

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: iorras on August 16, 2021, 11:54:40 AM
I can see why Lane missed it, I thought it was a good hit on live viewing during the match, there is no VAR/TMO so we cant check except with his linesman so he cant guess if he should give a card or not for something that seemed to look ok to him at the time, but he ABSOLUTLEY should have blown his whistle when he saw the aftermath of the hit. Himself and Deegan the king clown himself can have no excuses for that.

Most Dubs fans appear to be premiership fans first and foremost and inhabit that world of  "my team always right, your team always wrong" the predicates that cesspit. So the one eyedness doesn't surprise me. Small f*cked up what he was trying to do with devastating consequences for Eoghan McLoughlin, up to the GAA to decide if he should be sanctioned for that or not but the referee has to stop play to check on the player after that hit.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 16, 2021, 11:55:35 AM
If there is a witch hunt here for some players.

Also Aiden O Shea should receive a 8 weeks suspension for entering the pitch of play. If you recall this similar incident:

https://www.the42.ie/darren-hughes-monaghan-ban-4690277-Jun2019/

If this is the game we are playing now looking for bans then, Personally, I don't think he should miss the final, but those are the rules what...

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 16, 2021, 12:01:32 PM
I can see why Lane missed it, I thought it was a good hit on live viewing during the match, there is no VAR/TMO so we cant check except with his linesman so he cant guess if he should give a card or not for something that seemed to look ok to him at the time, but he ABSOLUTLEY should have blown his whistle when he saw the aftermath of the hit. Himself and Deegan the king clown himself can have no excuses for that.

Most Dubs fans appear to be premiership fans first and foremost and inhabit that world of  "my team always right, your team always wrong" the predicates that cesspit. So the one eyedness doesn't surprise me. Small f*cked up what he was trying to do with devastating consequences for Eoghan McLoughlin, up to the GAA to decide if he should be sanctioned for that or not but the referee has to stop play to check on the player after that hit.

Never liked the Premiership to be honest. Numerous incidents in the game , numerous incidents in Mayo Dublin games over the last few years. . .

Nobody will change my mind on the Small shoulder, if anything, at worse, it was a free for Mayo..

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: gallsman on August 16, 2021, 12:02:50 PM

I will add, and i know this will not go down well, The Small hit, a great hit, dont care what anyone says and wont change my mind, one of the best hits ever, pity about the goal chance after it.....  A pity the about the injury too, unfortunate, GAA going soft, people going soft. ..

This kind of attitude is a problem in the GAA. You are not allowed shoulder people in the jaw. End of discussion. It was a disgraceful hit
Can it be called disgraceful if he didn’t mean it but just fucked up the angle?
I mean if you’re arguing that it isn’t thuggery, how can it be disgraceful?

Because it was reckless. Intent is irrelevant. Outcome and consequence matter. Small is responsible for a fellow footballer having a double jaw fracture and missing an all-Ireland final.

Again, it can't be called thuggery, and shouldn't be, as I don't for a second think he lined up McLaughlin looking to do him serious injury.

If you can't see the difference between those two things, you're part of the problem.
You are saying that he tried to challenge him fairly but a slight error in the execution caused a bad injury. If he didn’t mean it, it’s harsh to call it disgraceful.

I would say it was a bit more than a "slight error" in execution. He messed it up badly. And yes, outcome and consequence matter, and sound be taken into consideration for the punishment.

As for Aidan O'Shea, he should absolutely have been sent off for being in the field of play at that stage. I find the fact it was completely overlooked by TSG last night a bit surprising. But TheGreatest is playing a game of whataboutery here. The O'Shea incident is completely separate to the Small one. But if you want to play that game, I also look forward to Paddy Small's lengthy ban for his close fisted clothesline to the neck
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 16, 2021, 12:04:49 PM
Not a fan of the 'hit' in football or hurling on someone whose body is in any way 'open'.  But it's nearly expected at this stage . The difference of a couple of inches makes it look bad but I'm sure there was no intent to strike the head.
I 100% agree.

The Dublin club one referenced above I thought was a horrible watch.  And I’m sure everyone has seen similar where a player receives the aptly named hospital pass, and is wide open to a ‘fair shoulder’ to wipe him out. And if the opposing player doesn’t take that opportunity, he’ll be berated by his teammates and supporters. It’s part of the game and big physical hits can be a great watch, but there should be something in the rules about care for the opponent, in particular in relation to contact with the head. No doubt it’s a bit odd that rugby rules provide for this, but GAA rules don’t, given how much more physical their game is with their continuous monster hits.

Re the Small one, if you slow the action down frame by frame, you’ll see that the first contact shoulder to shoulder. Eoghan’s body is slightly turning as he’s hit, and it immediately starts to crumple. John’s knees are bent slightly, the way people are taught to give the ‘fair shoulder’, so then his shoulder rises to contact perfectly with Eoghan’s head. Horrendous outcome and I wish him all the very best for his recovery.

Even James Horan said afterwards that he wasn’t sure it was a foul, but was very upset that the play wasn’t stopped immediately as the player was clearly in a bad way.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2021, 12:07:01 PM
If there is a witch hunt here for some players.

Also Aiden O Shea should receive a 8 weeks suspension for entering the pitch of play. If you recall this similar incident:

https://www.the42.ie/darren-hughes-monaghan-ban-4690277-Jun2019/

If this is the game we are playing now looking for bans then, Personally, I don't think he should miss the final, but those are the rules what...

I actually agree with this. He shouldn't have been on the pitch and the fact that he just stayed there was a bit ridiculous.

Small should have went. It was wreckless. He hardly meant to do what he did in the end but it was a red. I only actually saw it on the highlights last night. If Dublin had scored that goal  >:( It actually wasn't terrible reffing to miss it in real time because it was that quick you could see why it was missed but it was terrible reffing to not stop the game.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: dublin7 on August 16, 2021, 12:17:07 PM
I can see why Lane missed it, I thought it was a good hit on live viewing during the match, there is no VAR/TMO so we cant check except with his linesman so he cant guess if he should give a card or not for something that seemed to look ok to him at the time, but he ABSOLUTLEY should have blown his whistle when he saw the aftermath of the hit. Himself and Deegan the king clown himself can have no excuses for that.

Most Dubs fans appear to be premiership fans first and foremost and inhabit that world of  "my team always right, your team always wrong" the predicates that cesspit. So the one eyedness doesn't surprise me. Small f*cked up what he was trying to do with devastating consequences for Eoghan McLoughlin, up to the GAA to decide if he should be sanctioned for that or not but the referee has to stop play to check on the player after that hit.

Never liked the Premiership to be honest. Numerous incidents in the game , numerous incidents in Mayo Dublin games over the last few years. . .

Nobody will change my mind on the Small shoulder, if anything, at worse, it was a free for Mayo..

Small's shoulder looked alright in real time, but if he gets a one match ban for it retrospectively then fair enough. Looking at all the crying and whinging over the tackle and what's turning into a witch hunt for John Small has turned this into a farce and completely over the top.

The Mayo lad was there to be shouldered when he got the ball and if that was a player on your team who didn't take the chance to shoulder him then you'd be giving out to him.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tonto1888 on August 16, 2021, 12:28:34 PM
If there is a witch hunt here for some players.

Also Aiden O Shea should receive a 8 weeks suspension for entering the pitch of play. If you recall this similar incident:

https://www.the42.ie/darren-hughes-monaghan-ban-4690277-Jun2019/

If this is the game we are playing now looking for bans then, Personally, I don't think he should miss the final, but those are the rules what...

I actually agree with this. He shouldn't have been on the pitch and the fact that he just stayed there was a bit ridiculous.

Small should have went. It was wreckless. He hardly meant to do what he did in the end but it was a red. I only actually saw it on the highlights last night. If Dublin had scored that goal  >:( It actually wasn't terrible reffing to miss it in real time because it was that quick you could see why it was missed but it was terrible reffing to not stop the game.

I agree with this. I’m really time I thought it was a good hard, but fair hit. Definitely should have stopped the game though.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Stall the Bailer on August 16, 2021, 12:28:51 PM
Not a fan of the 'hit' in football or hurling on someone whose body is in any way 'open'.  But it's nearly expected at this stage . The difference of a couple of inches makes it look bad but I'm sure there was no intent to strike the head.
I 100% agree.

The Dublin club one referenced above I thought was a horrible watch.  And I’m sure everyone has seen similar where a player receives the aptly named hospital pass, and is wide open to a ‘fair shoulder’ to wipe him out. And if the opposing player doesn’t take that opportunity, he’ll be berated by his teammates and supporters. It’s part of the game and big physical hits can be a great watch, but there should be something in the rules about care for the opponent, in particular in relation to contact with the head. No doubt it’s a bit odd that rugby rules provide for this, but GAA rules don’t, given how much more physical their game is with their continuous monster hits.

Re the Small one, if you slow the action down frame by frame, you’ll see that the first contact shoulder to shoulder. Eoghan’s body is slightly turning as he’s hit, and it immediately starts to crumple. John’s knees are bent slightly, the way people are taught to give the ‘fair shoulder’, so then his shoulder rises to contact perfectly with Eoghan’s head. Horrendous outcome and I wish him all the very best for his recovery.

Even James Horan said afterwards that he wasn’t sure it was a foul, but was very upset that the play wasn’t stopped immediately as the player was clearly in a bad way.
It has to be side by side not shoulder to shoulder. Small hit with shoulder but contact was never going to be side by side.
Only a split second for Small to decide if a shoulder tackle was on and when you commit it needs to be safe. I feel it was never on due the angle he was running at.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Keyser soze on August 16, 2021, 12:30:45 PM
I don't see anything wrong with this tackle. Shoulder to shoulder as far as I can see. How anyone can see a high tackle or frontal shoulder in this is beyond me. Not even a free let alone a bookable offence. Game should have been stopped though.



 
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Keyser soze on August 16, 2021, 12:42:26 PM
He wasn't ready to ship a tackle and was hit shoulder to shoulder just as he turned, unfortunate for him and terrible he was injured and will miss the final which nobody wants to see, but if tackles like that are punished by a red card the game will become non contact.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 16, 2021, 12:48:07 PM
He wasn't ready to ship a tackle and was hit shoulder to shoulder just as he turned, unfortunate for him and terrible he was injured and will miss the final which nobody wants to see, but if tackles like that are punished by a red card the game will become non contact.

Sounds like the immaculate conception

Get hit shoulder to shoulder and break your jaw

Biggest miracle involving Mayo since the one in Knock in 1879
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 16, 2021, 12:57:43 PM
It's sad the way how the analysis and focus on this match now seems to be centred so much on one single incident where plenty of the arguments are just full of agendas and tribalism.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: mrdeeds on August 16, 2021, 01:00:47 PM
People keep saying fair shoulder is nonsense. The word shoulder doesn't appear in rules anymore.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: RedHand88 on August 16, 2021, 01:01:41 PM
He wasn't ready to ship a tackle and was hit shoulder to shoulder just as he turned, unfortunate for him and terrible he was injured and will miss the final which nobody wants to see, but if tackles like that are punished by a red card the game will become non contact.

Never ever ever let this man near a whistle.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armamike on August 16, 2021, 01:10:48 PM
The tackle wasn't shoulder to shoulder. If it was then the Mayo player would have badly winded at worst.   Whether it was deliberate, only Small can answer that one.  But it was extremely reckless given the standing position the Mayo player was in. 
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: 6th sam on August 16, 2021, 01:34:57 PM
Players have a duty not to jeopardise safety of opponent, but it was presumably a genuine attempt at shoulder to shoulder . The consequences of direct blow to the head by well conditioned adults at speed are so severe( in this case jaw fracture, and missing final ) that authorities need to try to eradicate it from the game and severely punish the offender. Players will then realise that if they are going to try to execute a tackle that is high risk , they could get red. If we therefore miss out on the small number of brilliant shoulder to shoulder hits we’ve seen over the years , so be it.
The ref could easily have missed this , as it’s a difficult sport to referee. Split second decision, and as he thought it was a perfect shoulder (which others also thought) , he was keen to let play go on, and missed the fact that McLaughlin’s fall indicated a serious head injury. He doesn’t warrant the abuse
He has received for these split second decisions.
That said , Dublin play on/over the edge and seem to get away with it more than others.  Paddy Small’s clenched swinging fist to the head, McCarthy’s elbow,  and his attack to the head (black ) were all red card high risk offences . Some Dublin players let themselves down badly on Saturday , and though robust play is part and parcel of the game but Head injuries are dangerous and deliberate head strike or high risk tackles need to be heavily punished. McCarthy is a superb player and doesn’t need this in his game , as it clearly distracted him from actually trying to win the game. They reminded me of ciarán whelan back in the day, great footballer , but got distracted by trying to be the the hard man, he was often not punished by the referee, but was punished by his lack of success in big games.

Regarding Aidan O’Shea, was the full time whistle not blown and as captain he was trying to avoid his players risking red?

Btw , fair play to Mayo. Want to see them
Finish the job now
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on August 16, 2021, 01:41:29 PM
Wonder if the gaa will take action against small. Actually I know the answer will be no but the ref missed a red card offence resulting in a player with a broken jaw.

That Dublin team has been getting away with cynical play for years. Bad enough about the funding, home venue every game etc but to add in favouritism from the ref no wonder they went unbeaten for years. Christ it took some serious fouling for the ref to give out a few cards when the game was almost over.

Last night reminded me of the Dubs in the bad old days of the Pillar era when the likes of Whelo would just bust some man straight from the the throw-in and get away with it.

Last time Dublin lost regularly. So was it always there?

Dubs lost their cool, then the plot, then the game

Apparently Kilkenny lost his shit in the dressing room. Called Dessie Farrell an imposter and fanny-pad and told him to fcuk off back to milking a living from the GPA. Gravy train heading south.

Certainly there are rumblings of discontent with Farrell across the board but I would wonder how you heard that.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Applesisapples on August 16, 2021, 01:59:35 PM
Agree with a few sentiments here. Definitely a red card but highly unlikely small went to do what he did. Small goes for big hits and takes chances with them. Remember his photo of the hit on keaney in the club? Red card all day long and definitely a bit on the wreckless side but highly unlikely he meant it.
Rugby has outlawed these types of challenges and they put the onus squarely on the player to tackle safely. In other words if there is a risk that you mistime a tackle then you have to accept the consequences if it is wrong. No room for lack of intent. Conor Lane was poor for both teams throughout, but it has to be said in this day and age with 4 umpires, 2 linesmen and a fourth official that is not acceptable. Lane was close by as was Deegan and play should have been halted.There was so much being said rightly around the Tyrone Covid out break regarding player safety, yet we can not make the game safe on the field. I do not think for one minute that Small intended to injure McLaughlin but he did not have to consider the outcome of his actions and that is a failure of the rule makers.The modern player in both hurling and football as with rugby is so strong and well conditioned in general they can dish out these hits, but at a basic level the human body is not built to take high impact collisions.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: twohands!!! on August 16, 2021, 02:30:14 PM
Agree with a few sentiments here. Definitely a red card but highly unlikely small went to do what he did. Small goes for big hits and takes chances with them. Remember his photo of the hit on keaney in the club? Red card all day long and definitely a bit on the wreckless side but highly unlikely he meant it.
Rugby has outlawed these types of challenges and they put the onus squarely on the player to tackle safely. In other words if there is a risk that you mistime a tackle then you have to accept the consequences if it is wrong. No room for lack of intent. Conor Lane was poor for both teams throughout, but it has to be said in this day and age with 4 umpires, 2 linesmen and a fourth official that is not acceptable. Lane was close by as was Deegan and play should have been halted.There was so much being said rightly around the Tyrone Covid out break regarding player safety, yet we can not make the game safe on the field. I do not think for one minute that Small intended to injure McLaughlin but he did not have to consider the outcome of his actions and that is a failure of the rule makers.The modern player in both hurling and football as with rugby is so strong and well conditioned in general they can dish out these hits, but at a basic level the human body is not built to take high impact collisions.


By rights the standing rules committee should bring in specific rules on player safety and having a duty of care to your opponent.

As a thought experiment - would the game of football be massively damaged if the shoulder charge was made completely illegal?
Is it worth having the rule in the game when you have outcomes like McLaughlin suffered?
Even in terms of coaching I think coaches would nearly be better off instructing players not to attempt a shoulder, given that such a high number of them end up in fouls against and yellow cards.
Personally I think that if you made the shoulder completely illegal, in about a year or two no-one would notice.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thewobbler on August 16, 2021, 02:37:59 PM
Agree with a few sentiments here. Definitely a red card but highly unlikely small went to do what he did. Small goes for big hits and takes chances with them. Remember his photo of the hit on keaney in the club? Red card all day long and definitely a bit on the wreckless side but highly unlikely he meant it.
Rugby has outlawed these types of challenges and they put the onus squarely on the player to tackle safely. In other words if there is a risk that you mistime a tackle then you have to accept the consequences if it is wrong. No room for lack of intent. Conor Lane was poor for both teams throughout, but it has to be said in this day and age with 4 umpires, 2 linesmen and a fourth official that is not acceptable. Lane was close by as was Deegan and play should have been halted.There was so much being said rightly around the Tyrone Covid out break regarding player safety, yet we can not make the game safe on the field. I do not think for one minute that Small intended to injure McLaughlin but he did not have to consider the outcome of his actions and that is a failure of the rule makers.The modern player in both hurling and football as with rugby is so strong and well conditioned in general they can dish out these hits, but at a basic level the human body is not built to take high impact collisions.


By rights the standing rules committee should bring in specific rules on player safety and having a duty of care to your opponent.

As a thought experiment - would the game of football be massively damaged if the shoulder charge was made completely illegal?
Is it worth having the rule in the game when you have outcomes like McLaughlin suffered?
Even in terms of coaching I think coaches would nearly be better off instructing players not to attempt a shoulder, given that such a high number of them end up in fouls against and yellow cards.
Personally I think that if you made the shoulder completely illegal, in about a year or two no-one would notice.


I think we should also ban all other forms of tackling too, as that should give us 100% success in eradicating injuries. In fact we should just have a free taking contest.

People need to catch themselves the f**k on. It was a freak accident.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Keyser soze on August 16, 2021, 02:50:31 PM
Agree with a few sentiments here. Definitely a red card but highly unlikely small went to do what he did. Small goes for big hits and takes chances with them. Remember his photo of the hit on keaney in the club? Red card all day long and definitely a bit on the wreckless side but highly unlikely he meant it.
Rugby has outlawed these types of challenges and they put the onus squarely on the player to tackle safely. In other words if there is a risk that you mistime a tackle then you have to accept the consequences if it is wrong. No room for lack of intent. Conor Lane was poor for both teams throughout, but it has to be said in this day and age with 4 umpires, 2 linesmen and a fourth official that is not acceptable. Lane was close by as was Deegan and play should have been halted.There was so much being said rightly around the Tyrone Covid out break regarding player safety, yet we can not make the game safe on the field. I do not think for one minute that Small intended to injure McLaughlin but he did not have to consider the outcome of his actions and that is a failure of the rule makers.The modern player in both hurling and football as with rugby is so strong and well conditioned in general they can dish out these hits, but at a basic level the human body is not built to take high impact collisions.


By rights the standing rules committee should bring in specific rules on player safety and having a duty of care to your opponent.

As a thought experiment - would the game of football be massively damaged if the shoulder charge was made completely illegal?
Is it worth having the rule in the game when you have outcomes like McLaughlin suffered?
Even in terms of coaching I think coaches would nearly be better off instructing players not to attempt a shoulder, given that such a high number of them end up in fouls against and yellow cards.
Personally I think that if you made the shoulder completely illegal, in about a year or two no-one would notice.


I think we should also ban all other forms of tackling too, as that should give us 100% success in eradicating injuries. In fact we should just have a free taking contest.

People need to catch themselves the f**k on. It was a freak accident.

Also running fast and turning on a wet day....mucho dangerous.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 16, 2021, 03:02:03 PM
Someone need bring out the rule book on a shoulder tackle, I thought it was changed yrs ago to side to side hit. Small to me went to hit him as hard as he could, foul means or fair. It's no witch hunt on Small, he done was he intended to do, hit him as hard as possible. I thought was red in real time, and only seen the real damage on the slow mo. Which showed him get him straight on, although the Mayo guy has turned slightly into it. The damage to the face possible done more by the high elbow which seemed to follow through. Ref had a nightmare, if he said this one happened to fast to even deem it a free, the fist to the face by his brother late on, the ref had no excuse not to red card, he not f**king blind. In short Dublin were pure dirt.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: johnnycool on August 16, 2021, 03:08:42 PM
If there is a witch hunt here for some players.

Also Aiden O Shea should receive a 8 weeks suspension for entering the pitch of play. If you recall this similar incident:

https://www.the42.ie/darren-hughes-monaghan-ban-4690277-Jun2019/

If this is the game we are playing now looking for bans then, Personally, I don't think he should miss the final, but those are the rules what...

Probably do Mayo a favour if O'Shea got a ban. The game is all about pace and his best days are behind him.

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: twohands!!! on August 16, 2021, 03:13:32 PM
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Provided that he has at least one foot on the ground, a player may make a shoulder to shoulder charge on an opponent-
 (a) who is in possession of the ball, or
 (b) who is playing the ball, or
 (c) when both players are moving in the direction of the ball to play it.

Current rule in the rule book.

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armamike on August 16, 2021, 03:18:57 PM
What's O'Shea like coming off the bench?  And i don't mean the boxing  :D
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Applesisapples on August 16, 2021, 03:56:34 PM
Agree with a few sentiments here. Definitely a red card but highly unlikely small went to do what he did. Small goes for big hits and takes chances with them. Remember his photo of the hit on keaney in the club? Red card all day long and definitely a bit on the wreckless side but highly unlikely he meant it.
Rugby has outlawed these types of challenges and they put the onus squarely on the player to tackle safely. In other words if there is a risk that you mistime a tackle then you have to accept the consequences if it is wrong. No room for lack of intent. Conor Lane was poor for both teams throughout, but it has to be said in this day and age with 4 umpires, 2 linesmen and a fourth official that is not acceptable. Lane was close by as was Deegan and play should have been halted.There was so much being said rightly around the Tyrone Covid out break regarding player safety, yet we can not make the game safe on the field. I do not think for one minute that Small intended to injure McLaughlin but he did not have to consider the outcome of his actions and that is a failure of the rule makers.The modern player in both hurling and football as with rugby is so strong and well conditioned in general they can dish out these hits, but at a basic level the human body is not built to take high impact collisions.


By rights the standing rules committee should bring in specific rules on player safety and having a duty of care to your opponent.

As a thought experiment - would the game of football be massively damaged if the shoulder charge was made completely illegal?
Is it worth having the rule in the game when you have outcomes like McLaughlin suffered?
Even in terms of coaching I think coaches would nearly be better off instructing players not to attempt a shoulder, given that such a high number of them end up in fouls against and yellow cards.
Personally I think that if you made the shoulder completely illegal, in about a year or two no-one would notice.


I think we should also ban all other forms of tackling too, as that should give us 100% success in eradicating injuries. In fact we should just have a free taking contest.

People need to catch themselves the f**k on. It was a freak accident.
It was by no means a freak accident, if you allow a player running at speed to shoulder another with out regard to his safety then that is reckless as is your attitude.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on August 16, 2021, 05:29:21 PM
As a Mayo man, have to say I'm delighted with that result. Horan made the right calls, and brought on the right replacements.
Make no mistake - we were not playing to our full potential for the first 40 minutes of that match. It started gradually in the second half but we were 5 points down with 8 minutes of Normal time remaining, and Diarmuid runs past 4 Dubs to keep that ball in play which McLoughlin slots over.

On the McLaughlin incident - in real time it looked dodgy enough to me on the Telly and the replays confirmed it. I've no idea what Small's real intentions were, but he should have been off from that point.
I don't expect he intended to break Eoghan's jaw but regardless it was late and it was high, and if you're out by a fraction of a second and you catch the man other than on the shoulder, you're in the wrong.
Worse than all that is how play was allowed to continue when there was a player clearly injured on the ground. I know the refs have a tough enough job but that was incompetence of the highest level. It really is time for TMO or if the GAA is worried about slowing down games, then get more officials. A Second ref should be there as when you break it down - you've a lad probably in his forties or fifties running continually after 28 lads half his age (30 if its an Ulster Final) and expecting him to see everything on a pitch that's over 12,500 square meters, as well as having to apply additional and sometimes subjective rules every year, such as Forward marks, changes to black card rules etc. It's no wonder there is little consistency on how games are officiated.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 16, 2021, 05:36:25 PM
For all the lads on here saying they are sure Small didn't intend to the hurt the lad, Small isn't (or hasn't so far) exactly done a Son Heung-min on it.

But shur expect nothing different from Dublin anyhow, i doubt Rock ever apologised to John Finn.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tonto1888 on August 16, 2021, 05:43:22 PM
Wonder if the gaa will take action against small. Actually I know the answer will be no but the ref missed a red card offence resulting in a player with a broken jaw.

That Dublin team has been getting away with cynical play for years. Bad enough about the funding, home venue every game etc but to add in favouritism from the ref no wonder they went unbeaten for years. Christ it took some serious fouling for the ref to give out a few cards when the game was almost over.

Last night reminded me of the Dubs in the bad old days of the Pillar era when the likes of Whelo would just bust some man straight from the the throw-in and get away with it.

Last time Dublin lost regularly. So was it always there?

Dubs lost their cool, then the plot, then the game

Apparently Kilkenny lost his shit in the dressing room. Called Dessie Farrell an imposter and fanny-pad and told him to fcuk off back to milking a living from the GPA. Gravy train heading south.

Certainly there are rumblings of discontent with Farrell across the board but I would wonder how you heard that.

in his imagination I would imagine
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 16, 2021, 06:39:04 PM
For all the lads on here saying they are sure Small didn't intend to the hurt the lad, Small isn't (or hasn't so far) exactly done a Son Heung-min on it.

But shur expect nothing different from Dublin anyhow, i doubt Rock ever apologised to John Finn.

Yerra should the Mayo lads are all angels.  How many jaws/noses have the O'Connors broken? Brendan Harrison spear tackle a lad years and yet his man got the line. Colm Boyle got Damien Comer with a dirty  shoulder on Comer and McNulty from Tyrone got broken jaw. Tom Cunnifee breaking Peter Harte collarbone in 2013. Larry Finnerty wee lad and Walsh taken out against Galway. OShea scrapping on pitch and in tunnels punching lads in back of head. Poor mayo
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 16, 2021, 06:42:02 PM
If there is a witch hunt here for some players.

Also Aiden O Shea should receive a 8 weeks suspension for entering the pitch of play. If you recall this similar incident:

https://www.the42.ie/darren-hughes-monaghan-ban-4690277-Jun2019/

If this is the game we are playing now looking for bans then, Personally, I don't think he should miss the final, but those are the rules what...

Probably do Mayo a favour if O'Shea got a ban. The game is all about pace and his best days are behind him.

Agree would be in Kerry favour for O'Shea to play. Nothing will be done as Mayo lads have a free reign for this craic.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 16, 2021, 06:51:39 PM
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Yerra should the Mayo lads are all angels.  How many jaws/noses have the O'Connors broken? Brendan Harrison spear tackle a lad years and yet his man got the line. Colm Boyle got Damien Comer with a dirty  shoulder on Comer and McNulty from Tyrone got broken jaw. Tom Cunnifee breaking Peter Harte collarbone in 2013. Larry Finnerty wee lad and Walsh taken out against Galway. OShea scrapping on pitch and in tunnels punching lads in bad of head. Poor mayo

Tom Cuniffes one was within the rules, ditto Boyle, I don’t recall mcnulty broken jaw. The rest of your list is clutching at straws. The Dublin jaw breaker on our lad went unpunished during the match and lads appear to be defending small. Many’s the time our lads (fully agree we are no angels), get sent off for foul play, that’s fair enough, we take our medicine.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 16, 2021, 07:02:16 PM
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Yerra should the Mayo lads are all angels.  How many jaws/noses have the O'Connors broken? Brendan Harrison spear tackle a lad years and yet his man got the line. Colm Boyle got Damien Comer with a dirty  shoulder on Comer and McNulty from Tyrone got broken jaw. Tom Cunnifee breaking Peter Harte collarbone in 2013. Larry Finnerty wee lad and Walsh taken out against Galway. OShea scrapping on pitch and in tunnels punching lads in bad of head. Poor mayo

Tom Cuniffes one was within the rules, ditto Boyle, I don’t recall mcnulty broken jaw. The rest of your list is clutching at straws. The Dublin jaw breaker on our lad went unpunished during the match and lads appear to be defending small. Many’s the time our lads (fully agree we are no angels), get sent off for foul play, that’s fair enough, we take our medicine.

Agree Small should got the line.  Boyle tackle against Tyrone definitely not in rules. Tyrone lad done exact in same and he got the line. It was Hugh Pat McGeary got jaw broken. McNulty got line for similar challenge on Lee Keegan
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: dec on August 16, 2021, 07:09:32 PM
In Rugby they now crack down very hard on any contact above the shoulder, football should do the same.

If you make contact with the head or neck of an opponent you should be sent off.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 16, 2021, 07:15:32 PM
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If you make contact with the head or neck of an opponent you should be sent off.

Agreed
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 16, 2021, 07:17:38 PM
In Rugby they now crack down very hard on any contact above the shoulder, football should do the same.

If you make contact with the head or neck of an opponent you should be sent off.

Lane should have stopped game instantly.  Problem players go down a lot in games clutching the head(usually when winning) . Same in hurlingNo excuse for not stopping game though. I think if player is clutching head should be taken off for 10 minutes to ensure no concussions etc. McLaughlan was genuine injury but onus should be players not seriously injured  not to hold head
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2021, 07:19:33 PM
Wonder if the gaa will take action against small. Actually I know the answer will be no but the ref missed a red card offence resulting in a player with a broken jaw.

That Dublin team has been getting away with cynical play for years. Bad enough about the funding, home venue every game etc but to add in favouritism from the ref no wonder they went unbeaten for years. Christ it took some serious fouling for the ref to give out a few cards when the game was almost over.

Last night reminded me of the Dubs in the bad old days of the Pillar era when the likes of Whelo would just bust some man straight from the the throw-in and get away with it.

Last time Dublin lost regularly. So was it always there?

Dubs lost their cool, then the plot, then the game

Apparently Kilkenny lost his shit in the dressing room. Called Dessie Farrell an imposter and fanny-pad and told him to fcuk off back to milking a living from the GPA. Gravy train heading south.

Certainly there are rumblings of discontent with Farrell across the board but I would wonder how you heard that.

in his imagination I would imagine

Fanny pad ;D I haven’t heard that insult in many many years. (I suspect dessie Farrell hasn’t either!)

I don’t think Farrell has done a great job tbh but always on a hiding to nothing.

I think almost anyone agrees blatant red...
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 16, 2021, 07:22:01 PM
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It was Hugh Pat McGeary got jaw broken. McNulty got line for similar challenge on Lee Keegan

When was this jaw break? Are you getting body parts mixed up?

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 16, 2021, 08:57:48 PM
The media is filled with Paul Caffrey opinions, is it because he's the best person for the media to talk to now that Dublin are back to the flaky team as they were under his management?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: joemamas on August 16, 2021, 09:01:36 PM
The media is filled with Paul Caffrey opinions, is it because he's the best person for the media to talk to now that Dublin are back to the flaky team as they were under his management?

Funny I thought the same thing, why are they resurrecting this clown. Can you ever forget his ill advised shoulder on the Mayo coach back in 2006, I think
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 16, 2021, 09:16:52 PM
In Rugby they now crack down very hard on any contact above the shoulder, football should do the same.

If you make contact with the head or neck of an opponent you should be sent off.

Yes. I’ve said that for years.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 16, 2021, 09:18:09 PM
The media is filled with Paul Caffrey opinions, is it because he's the best person for the media to talk to now that Dublin are back to the flaky team as they were under his management?

Funny I thought the same thing, why are they resurrecting this clown. Can you ever forget his ill advised shoulder on the Mayo coach back in 2006, I think

Correct on the late John Morrison RIP
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2021, 09:23:05 PM
The media is filled with Paul Caffrey opinions, is it because he's the best person for the media to talk to now that Dublin are back to the flaky team as they were under his management?

Funny I thought the same thing, why are they resurrecting this clown. Can you ever forget his ill advised shoulder on the Mayo coach back in 2006, I think

Yeah, the Mill at the Hill.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 16, 2021, 09:23:09 PM
The media is filled with Paul Caffrey opinions, is it because he's the best person for the media to talk to now that Dublin are back to the flaky team as they were under his management?

Funny I thought the same thing, why are they resurrecting this clown. Can you ever forget his ill advised shoulder on the Mayo coach back in 2006, I think

I remember seeing Caffrey on duty at Croke Park, think it  was the Donegal Dublin semi 2011. Coming back from the shop I  spotted him and Jesus it was tempting to run into the back of  him with a hefty shoulder. But I would’ve dropped me chips, so I thought, feck him
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 16, 2021, 09:59:27 PM
The media is filled with Paul Caffrey opinions, is it because he's the best person for the media to talk to now that Dublin are back to the flaky team as they were under his management?

Maybe try David Hickeys opinion instead he will inflame the Mayo supporters and the anti Dubs even more.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360697.html
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 16, 2021, 10:51:34 PM
The media is filled with Paul Caffrey opinions, is it because he's the best person for the media to talk to now that Dublin are back to the flaky team as they were under his management?

Maybe try David Hickeys opinion instead he will inflame the Mayo supporters and the anti Dubs even more.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360697.html

Fu cking Hell. What Hickey at?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: tyrone08 on August 16, 2021, 11:00:35 PM
The media is filled with Paul Caffrey opinions, is it because he's the best person for the media to talk to now that Dublin are back to the flaky team as they were under his management?

Maybe try David Hickeys opinion instead he will inflame the Mayo supporters and the anti Dubs even more.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360697.html

Fu cking Hell

Brilliant read, what an embarrassing and deluded outburst
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 16, 2021, 11:01:02 PM
The media is filled with Paul Caffrey opinions, is it because he's the best person for the media to talk to now that Dublin are back to the flaky team as they were under his management?

Maybe try David Hickeys opinion instead he will inflame the Mayo supporters and the anti Dubs even more.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360697.html

Fu cking Hell

I read less biased opinions from drunk people on Reservoir of Dubs blog 
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo Border on August 16, 2021, 11:17:10 PM
Embarrassing from the doctor. And completely unsporting in his rant. One would have expected better.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 16, 2021, 11:52:22 PM
honyevalley, back up your earlier statement about Mayo breaking jaws or else retract it.

Thanks in advance. Things don’t go unnoticed here that easy ya know, I’ve learned that lesson meself.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: jmk on August 16, 2021, 11:56:58 PM
Embarrassing from the doctor. And completely unsporting in his rant. One would have expected better.
That's a bizarre take by Hickey on the refereeing decisions in a game where Dublin should have had 3 red cards and at least 1 more black card
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 16, 2021, 11:59:28 PM
Pillar Caffery is a Jackeen. And a very bitter one at that.

The thing is, a vast majority of the Dubs are sound. I live amongst ye, same for Larry on here. We are settled in and make our crust here, I’ve great time for the real fans, and I don’t think as a Mayo man I’ll let it pass that I’ve got nothing, and I mean nothing but support and congrats from me locals, all Dublin folks,  since the win, so thanks for that to the Dublin lads, and to hound, the greatest and sdb and the others on here.

The limited tickets at the weekend added to the occasion imo, the rael Dublin supporters were out in force, magnanimous at the end. Bit like the league crew we get to Castlebar every other year.

Ye were great champions and if we go on to beat Kerry or Tyrone  (which I think we will) we will remember it was the Dublin team that set the bar for us.

Long live the GAA, it’s the only proper culture remaining in this country and long may it continue.

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 17, 2021, 06:44:39 AM
Embarrassing from the doctor. And completely unsporting in his rant. One would have expected better.

+1
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 17, 2021, 06:54:15 AM
Of course Hickey is biased, like most on here are too, I am too, made some valid points though..., but games over, Mayo beat Dublin for only the 3rd time in Championship and deservingly so.

I tell you which player of Mayo I like now, Padraig O Hora  A different breed of Mayo player, different mindset.

Also you all you are making out that Mayo are the angels of the game, Mayo are well able to dish it out, have done over the last few and have to do it when playing Dublin, but there is and has been a Mayo media love for a good few years now.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Tubberman on August 17, 2021, 07:26:15 AM
Embarrassing from the doctor. And completely unsporting in his rant. One would have expected better.

Unfortunately,  i wouldn't expect any better from him.
Do you not remember his comments before last year's final?
He might be a doctor,  but he's classless and ignorant.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: WhoDat on August 17, 2021, 07:46:29 AM
is that man actually a doctor? because he doesnt seem to have 2 brain cells to rub together
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Silver hill on August 17, 2021, 08:17:26 AM
People…be cool!
There’s nothing that Hickey has said there that can’t be argued either way. His 4 points are valid.
I think it’s great that he gives an actual real opinion on what he’s actually believes rather than a sanitised, pc correct one. How novel is that in today’s woke world.
He’s correct to call out O’Shea. Thus far he has failed Mayo as a footballer and seems more interested in increasing his social media profile as an ‘influencer’. (Whatever that is).
Needs to keep his head down and earn the right to do that sort of shite when he has a few crosses in the back pocket.
Hickey is also correct about the perennial loser tag; stating the obvious but that won’t disappear until they actual win one.
Would be an unmitigated disaster if Kerry nip this one from them this year.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2021, 08:50:36 AM
Of course Hickey is biased, like most on here are too, I am too, made some valid points though..., but games over, Mayo beat Dublin for only the 3rd time in Championship and deservingly so.

I tell you which player of Mayo I like now, Padraig O Hora  A different breed of Mayo player, different mindset.

Also you all you are making out that Mayo are the angels of the game, Mayo are well able to dish it out, have done over the last few and have to do it when playing Dublin, but there is and has been a Mayo media love for a good few years now.

The thing I would say about the media love. Philly McMahon is getting a lot of abuse now about his da and stuff online - and people who are doing that need a good look at themselves. I like who the guy comes across media wise etc but on the pitch he is a dirty hallion. He has been a bit of a media darling too.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 17, 2021, 09:12:30 AM
Of course Hickey is biased, like most on here are too, I am too, made some valid points though..., but games over, Mayo beat Dublin for only the 3rd time in Championship and deservingly so.

I tell you which player of Mayo I like now, Padraig O Hora  A different breed of Mayo player, different mindset.

Also you all you are making out that Mayo are the angels of the game, Mayo are well able to dish it out, have done over the last few and have to do it when playing Dublin, but there is and has been a Mayo media love for a good few years now.

The thing I would say about the media love. Philly McMahon is getting a lot of abuse now about his da and stuff online - and people who are doing that need a good look at themselves. I like who the guy comes across media wise etc but on the pitch he is a dirty hallion. He has been a bit of a media darling too.

Only in his capacity of what he is doing off the field, and maybe they feel they have to give him a voice, but behind it would care too much for him, and probably look down on him also.

Dublin have always been made out as a rough team, going back as far as the 70s. Philly and a few others get a lot of abuse win, lose , draw, nearly always after Mayo games etc,  id say he the most abused player, online , in the history of the sport, driven by the media, the likes of the 42, Sports Joe, Off the ball, etc , stir the pot, post pictures up online, freeze frame, with snide comments, just so they can get likes and comments under their posts, and then keep reposting the same posts. Going on years and is agenda driven, given the demographics of some of the people behind these so called " media " sites.

The end of the day, he will finish with 12 Leinster, 8 All Irelands, 5 National leagues, 2 all stars. Maybe one more if he's lucky and will always be remembered and always be a hero in the eyes of the Dubs.

Whereas Mayo are celebrating beating the Dubs for only the third time like its an All Ireland final win, remains to be seen how they fair in yet another final.





Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: johnnycool on August 17, 2021, 09:16:26 AM
Of course Hickey is biased, like most on here are too, I am too, made some valid points though..., but games over, Mayo beat Dublin for only the 3rd time in Championship and deservingly so.

I tell you which player of Mayo I like now, Padraig O Hora  A different breed of Mayo player, different mindset.

Also you all you are making out that Mayo are the angels of the game, Mayo are well able to dish it out, have done over the last few and have to do it when playing Dublin, but there is and has been a Mayo media love for a good few years now.

The thing I would say about the media love. Philly McMahon is getting a lot of abuse now about his da and stuff online - and people who are doing that need a good look at themselves. I like who the guy comes across media wise etc but on the pitch he is a dirty hallion. He has been a bit of a media darling too.

Every successful team needs a philly, like it or not. He's there to intimidate anyone who's lacking in a bit of "self belief" but he can play ball too when needed.

Morons on twitter having a go at his da would probably have run out of the field if there wasn't a paling round it in their playing days..

Best ignored.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 17, 2021, 09:17:24 AM
Dr. Hickey gave me a good laugh. Just as I was coming down from the high, he is one of the reasons why you'd want to stay on the high until the day of the final.

P.S. highorlow's post - 100% agree with it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2021, 09:20:31 AM
Of course Hickey is biased, like most on here are too, I am too, made some valid points though..., but games over, Mayo beat Dublin for only the 3rd time in Championship and deservingly so.

I tell you which player of Mayo I like now, Padraig O Hora  A different breed of Mayo player, different mindset.

Also you all you are making out that Mayo are the angels of the game, Mayo are well able to dish it out, have done over the last few and have to do it when playing Dublin, but there is and has been a Mayo media love for a good few years now.

The thing I would say about the media love. Philly McMahon is getting a lot of abuse now about his da and stuff online - and people who are doing that need a good look at themselves. I like who the guy comes across media wise etc but on the pitch he is a dirty hallion. He has been a bit of a media darling too.

Every successful team needs a philly, like it or not. He's there to intimidate anyone who's lacking in a bit of "self belief" but he can play ball too when needed.

Morons on twitter having a go at his da would probably have run out of the field if there wasn't a paling round it in their playing days..

Best ignored.

Oh aye I would agree.  As I said before almost every successful winning team has them (ok I said every successful team has them but a Galway boy pulled me on it lol). Most really good corner backs have a bit of a nasty(or maybe devilish a better term) streak in them. He has a good media profile but is far from a saint. (Tomas O'Se like that too - great footballer but dirty hallion as well)

Anyone having a go at someone's da like that needs a good boot up the arse. I hope Philly tracks them down lol.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armamike on August 17, 2021, 10:13:15 AM
Great champions know how to win and lose.  Dublin didn't cover themselves in much glory on Saturday.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 17, 2021, 10:24:43 AM
Great champions know how to win and lose.  Dublin didn't cover themselves in much glory on Saturday.

Yes they did, they fought until the very end, gave it everything, wasn't good enough as Mayo were better.

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 17, 2021, 10:29:51 AM
I live in Dublin; in Donnycarney, as true blue as you'll find.
It is a long tradition that Donnycarney fans march together to Croke Park on AI day.
Okay so far...?

My nephew and his young son were waiting at the church bus stop to get down to Fairview. The young lad was wearing the Mayo colours, flag, hat, scarf etc. The Dubs started teasing him but when his father told them he was from Birmingham and really hadn't a clue about Gaelic football, they decided to 'adopt' him.
So the procession started again.... with the lad out in front waving his flag and the crowd, marching behind, singing Dublin songs and teasing him and him dizzy with excitement.
They led the pair up to the stile they needed to enter the stand. One accompanied them and directed them to their seats.
The lad's pockets were a good bit heavier also.
I never had a minute's bother either with my Mayo flag hanging outside and everyone local knows I support my native county. Mind you, the arguments could be fierce-- but only in the local pub after a game!  ;D
Genuine Dub supporters are as good as you'll find anywhere.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Rossfan on August 17, 2021, 10:43:20 AM
Genuine GAA supporters are grand.
It's the bandwagon/big day types can be arseholes.

On that subject a sour grapes comnent....a certain Midland County seem to have gained 14,500 new supporters recently while there was only 1 spectator at the u20 Final ::)
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: WhoDat on August 17, 2021, 11:09:42 AM
Great champions know how to win and lose.  Dublin didn't cover themselves in much glory on Saturday.

Yeah they did, they fought until the very end, gave it everything, wasn't good enough as Mayo were better.

i didn't see much fighting for anything out there from the dubs (apart from dirty, sneaky hits on opponents). fenton gave it a go, but apart from him, they were complacent all over the pitch and outright lazy at times.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thewobbler on August 17, 2021, 11:13:29 AM
Great champions know how to win and lose.  Dublin didn't cover themselves in much glory on Saturday.

Yeah they did, they fought until the very end, gave it everything, wasn't good enough as Mayo were better.

i didn't see much fighting for anything out there from the dubs (apart from dirty, sneaky hits on opponents). fenton gave it a go, but apart from him, they were complacent all over the pitch and outright lazy at times.

Lol. You do realise that they took an AI semi final to extra time?

Lazy my hole.

Mayo’s bench was better than Dublin’s on the day. Added legs to an already fit team. That’s all that happened.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 17, 2021, 11:19:23 AM

I’ve just read David Hickey’s comments in the Irish Examiner: “There were four atrocious decisions that swung the game”.  All four points were valid and are ones with which I agree. You’d need to be pretty thin-skinned to get heated up about them.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360697.html
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 17, 2021, 11:19:44 AM
I live in Dublin; in Donnycarney, as true blue as you'll find.
It is a long tradition that Donnycarney fans march together to Croke Park on AI day.
Okay so far...?

My nephew and his young son were waiting at the church bus stop to get down to Fairview. The young lad was wearing the Mayo colours, flag, hat, scarf etc. The Dubs started teasing him but when his father told them he was from Birmingham and really hadn't a clue about Gaelic football, they decided to 'adopt' him.
So the procession started again.... with the lad out in front waving his flag and the crowd, marching behind, singing Dublin songs and teasing him and him dizzy with excitement.
They led the pair up to the stile they needed to enter the stand. One accompanied them and directed them to their seats.
The lad's pockets were a good bit heavier also.
I never had a minute's bother either with my Mayo flag hanging outside and everyone local knows I support my native county. Mind you, the arguments could be fierce-- but only in the local pub after a game!  ;D
Genuine Dub supporters are as good as you'll find anywhere.

Could be neighbors
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 17, 2021, 11:26:22 AM
Great champions know how to win and lose.  Dublin didn't cover themselves in much glory on Saturday.

Yes they did, they fought until the very end, gave it everything, wasn't good enough as Mayo were better.

Four points in the last 55 minutes was giving it everything?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 17, 2021, 11:30:55 AM
As a Mayo man, have to say I'm delighted with that result. Horan made the right calls, and brought on the right replacements.
Make no mistake - we were not playing to our full potential for the first 40 minutes of that match. It started gradually in the second half but we were 5 points down with 8 minutes of Normal time remaining, and Diarmuid runs past 4 Dubs to keep that ball in play which McLoughlin slots over.

On the McLaughlin incident - in real time it looked dodgy enough to me on the Telly and the replays confirmed it. I've no idea what Small's real intentions were, but he should have been off from that point.
I don't expect he intended to break Eoghan's jaw but regardless it was late and it was high, and if you're out by a fraction of a second and you catch the man other than on the shoulder, you're in the wrong.
Worse than all that is how play was allowed to continue when there was a player clearly injured on the ground. I know the refs have a tough enough job but that was incompetence of the highest level. It really is time for TMO or if the GAA is worried about slowing down games, then get more officials. A Second ref should be there as when you break it down - you've a lad probably in his forties or fifties running continually after 28 lads half his age (30 if its an Ulster Final) and expecting him to see everything on a pitch that's over 12,500 square meters, as well as having to apply additional and sometimes subjective rules every year, such as Forward marks, changes to black card rules etc. It's no wonder there is little consistency on how games are officiated.
Very good ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 17, 2021, 11:35:12 AM
The media is filled with Paul Caffrey opinions, is it because he's the best person for the media to talk to now that Dublin are back to the flaky team as they were under his management?
Dangerous to think Dublin are back to being a flaky team. Definitely beatable now and hopefully more teams will realise that, but at the end of the day it took everything Mayo had and the rub of the green with Hennelly’s 45 and O’Connor’s volley to beat the flaky Dubs… Wouldn’t like to bet against them winning Sam next year. 
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: mup on August 17, 2021, 11:43:36 AM
Great champions know how to win and lose.  Dublin didn't cover themselves in much glory on Saturday.

This is it in a nutshell. We've heard over the past several years how humble Dublin are. That didn't show last Saturday.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 17, 2021, 11:47:59 AM
Great champions know how to win and lose.  Dublin didn't cover themselves in much glory on Saturday.

This is it in a nutshell. We've heard over the past several years how humble Dublin are. That didn't show last Saturday.
Easy to be humble when you’re winning. McCarthy’s black card in particular was just petulant and stupid, there was half a possibility of nicking a goal and he gives away a cheap and needless free out. Would have expected more from him.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: thewobbler on August 17, 2021, 11:49:03 AM
It seems that the number of people on this thread who watched this game with a sole pursuit of finding evidence to match their personal agendas, is off the scale.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 17, 2021, 11:51:33 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360697.html?fbclid=IwAR1JKhEA_3wu6PTL9V3ItouAk5EXhAfteblEpkIlnm2Hp1syts5dkQVdpGY

Bitter as feck..
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 17, 2021, 11:58:18 AM

I’ve just read David Hickey’s comments in the Irish Examiner: “There were four atrocious decisions that swung the game”.  All four points were valid and are ones with which I agree. You’d need to be pretty thin-skinned to get heated up about them.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360697.html


 He must have a magic TV that only shows one side of a game

I could match his 4 “atrocious decisions” with 14 atrocious decisions that went against Mayo
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: WhoDat on August 17, 2021, 12:15:24 PM
Great champions know how to win and lose.  Dublin didn't cover themselves in much glory on Saturday.

Yeah they did, they fought until the very end, gave it everything, wasn't good enough as Mayo were better.

i didn't see much fighting for anything out there from the dubs (apart from dirty, sneaky hits on opponents). fenton gave it a go, but apart from him, they were complacent all over the pitch and outright lazy at times.

Lol. You do realise that they took an AI semi final to extra time?

Lazy my hole.

Mayo’s bench was better than Dublin’s on the day. Added legs to an already fit team. That’s all that happened.

dublin didn't take it to extra time, mayo did. they were the team who were behind and had to make up a deficit. dublin scored 2 points in the second half and tried to play keep ball for about 40 minutes. is that fighting for a win?
they didn't fight for anything, the fight was coming all from the other side who clawed it back, while the dubs started throwing slaps to make up for what they were lacking.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 17, 2021, 12:22:12 PM
The media is filled with Paul Caffrey opinions, is it because he's the best person for the media to talk to now that Dublin are back to the flaky team as they were under his management?
Dangerous to think Dublin are back to being a flaky team. Definitely beatable now and hopefully more teams will realise that, but at the end of the day it took everything Mayo had and the rub of the green with Hennelly’s 45 and O’Connor’s volley to beat the flaky Dubs… Wouldn’t like to bet against them winning Sam next year.

They are flaky again. Back to that side taking pop shots, composure gone, losing all discipline in the melting point, team made weaker with each sub they make.

Would say more about the competition and their lack of quality if they allowed that flaky Dublin side retain the All-Ireland title next year.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: timmyot501 on August 17, 2021, 12:22:54 PM
After the game I did feel that Lane had a disaster all round.  He is just a poor ref.
The Hennelly retake excuse offered by McStay that Philly ran across the kicker seemed ludicrus to me.  The 16 men still on the field is more plausable.  Imagine Hennelly nailed the first one and was then been made retake??

Hickey has a point though with the Comerford over carrying free.  That was a joke.  And the basquel black seemed harsh to me too. 

But to think these decisions cost Dublin the match can be counter-acted by more Lane madness on the day on the other side.  Dublin defo should have had a few black cards in normal time which would have benefited mayo.  Lane just lost control of the whole ocassion.

Fair play to Mayo for sticking at it in the second half.  I had them written off after 20 minutes.  The game was heading into boredom mode at that stage.  Dublin could have finished them when they were on top but decided to play keep ball with a full half remaining.  For that alone I was happy to see the Mayo revival.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 17, 2021, 12:33:11 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360697.html?fbclid=IwAR1JKhEA_3wu6PTL9V3ItouAk5EXhAfteblEpkIlnm2Hp1syts5dkQVdpGY

Bitter as feck..

Which comments specifically show David Hickey to be "bitter as feck"? Have a look at the last couple of paragraphs about Offaly's great win on Sunday.

Irish Examiner

Dublin football great Dr David Hickey expects Mayo to win the All-Ireland title but believes the performance of referee Conor Lane significantly contributed to Dublin’s demise on Saturday.

Three-time All-Ireland winner Hickey, who described Mayo as a “tragic outfit” prior to last December’s final clash with Dublin, is adamant the officiating worked in the favour of the Connacht champions.

“There were four atrocious decisions that swung the game. Number one, the (Rob Hennelly’s) 50 that was missed. It was allowed to be retaken because Mayo had 16 men on the field when it was taken. Dublin were penalised for a Mayo transgression, because (Stephen) Coen didn’t come off in time.

“Number two, the black card for (Colm) Basquel. He passed the ball and a Mayo man ran into his back. He’s not obliged to step aside. A free that was awarded to Dublin was reversed and Mayo scored at the other end.

“Number three, the overcarrying free given against our goalkeeper (Evan Comerford) was an absolute disgrace. And number four, there is a lot of talk about John Small. The hit on Brian Howard just before half-time that effectively put him out of the game was a cowardly attack from behind. He was finished after that.”

As far as tactics go, Hickey cited the decision of James Horan to take off captain Aidan O’Shea in the 49th minute as a key moment.

“I have to congratulate Mayo. The turning point for me was when O’Shea was taken off and I was impressed when that man Horan did that. I don’t think O’Shea has ever played well in big games. Hickey predicts Mayo will beat Kerry who he expects will see off Tyrone on Saturday week.

“I think they stuck to their guns last Saturday and they were very impressive in extra-time but Dublin being down a man in extra-time on a wet day is an impossible situation. I don’t think they’re all that good, to be honest about it, and I think Dublin would beat them if they played again tomorrow.

“But I think they have a good chance of beating Kerry now although their history shows that when they have a big win in an All-Ireland semi-final, they think they are there. They did the same in 2012 when they beat us and they didn’t turn up in the final.

“Providing they want it enough, they will win the All-Ireland. They’re moving well at the moment and I think they’re a better footballing team than Kerry are. I think your man (Pádraig) O’Hora is more than capable of taking care of (David) Clifford.”

The Raheny man anticipates Dublin will return strong next year with so many having experienced championship defeat for the first time. He doesn’t like how they are now being dismissed now that they have finally been defeated and perceived as a dirty team.

“This is not an epitaph. They lost three championship games out of 60-odd (championship) games. No other team in any other sports, the Los Angeles Lakers, the New York Yankees, Manchester United, goes 60 games without a defeat.

“I think this Dublin team will regroup. They have had 10 years without a break. They have been involved in almost every game that has mattered. They have won 95% of their games so I don’t think they have much to worry about.

“Every winning streak comes to an end. In that position, you probably do believe a bit of the propaganda that says you’re unbeatable but these are a great bunch of fellas, I’m very proud of them as a former Dublin footballer and it’s very clear that they are the greatest team to have ever played football.

“They have done it in style. Everyone is now looking to demonise their reputation but to me they’re an impeccable group of young fellas who have done wonderful social work around the city and are always available to publicise stuff. They’re an exemplary bunch of lads.”

Asked if he envisages Stephen Cluxton returning to the panel and Hickey’s response is firmly in the negative.

“I think the fella who should come back is Paul Mannion. Paul is too good to be out of it. I don’t know what Jack (McCaffrey) is at but his career is important to him and he’s at the high end of medicine so it probably doesn’t lend itself (to football). But Paul Mannion should be coaxed back.”

The performance of the weekend for Hickey was Offaly’s U20 All-Ireland final victory against Roscommon.

“The best team I have seen play football this year is the Offaly U20s. They are a breath of fresh air in football. I was so happy.

“They wiped the floor with Dublin, they wiped the floor with Cork, and they beat a very good Roscommon team. That Cork team was very good — their game against Kerry was great.

“They’re playing beautiful football and I hope they don’t split up now because of economic reasons or whatever. I hope most of them can stay together, progress at senior level, and in a couple of years or so be a real challenge to Dublin.”

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 17, 2021, 01:00:29 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360697.html?fbclid=IwAR1JKhEA_3wu6PTL9V3ItouAk5EXhAfteblEpkIlnm2Hp1syts5dkQVdpGY

Bitter as feck..

Which comments specifically show David Hickey to be "bitter as feck"? Have a look at the last couple of paragraphs about Offaly's great win on Sunday.

Irish Examiner

Dublin football great Dr David Hickey expects Mayo to win the All-Ireland title but believes the performance of referee Conor Lane significantly contributed to Dublin’s demise on Saturday.

Three-time All-Ireland winner Hickey, who described Mayo as a “tragic outfit” prior to last December’s final clash with Dublin, is adamant the officiating worked in the favour of the Connacht champions.

“There were four atrocious decisions that swung the game. Number one, the (Rob Hennelly’s) 50 that was missed. It was allowed to be retaken because Mayo had 16 men on the field when it was taken. Dublin were penalised for a Mayo transgression, because (Stephen) Coen didn’t come off in time.

“Number two, the black card for (Colm) Basquel. He passed the ball and a Mayo man ran into his back. He’s not obliged to step aside. A free that was awarded to Dublin was reversed and Mayo scored at the other end.

“Number three, the overcarrying free given against our goalkeeper (Evan Comerford) was an absolute disgrace. And number four, there is a lot of talk about John Small. The hit on Brian Howard just before half-time that effectively put him out of the game was a cowardly attack from behind. He was finished after that.”

As far as tactics go, Hickey cited the decision of James Horan to take off captain Aidan O’Shea in the 49th minute as a key moment.

“I have to congratulate Mayo. The turning point for me was when O’Shea was taken off and I was impressed when that man Horan did that. I don’t think O’Shea has ever played well in big games. Hickey predicts Mayo will beat Kerry who he expects will see off Tyrone on Saturday week.

“I think they stuck to their guns last Saturday and they were very impressive in extra-time but Dublin being down a man in extra-time on a wet day is an impossible situation. I don’t think they’re all that good, to be honest about it, and I think Dublin would beat them if they played again tomorrow.

“But I think they have a good chance of beating Kerry now although their history shows that when they have a big win in an All-Ireland semi-final, they think they are there. They did the same in 2012 when they beat us and they didn’t turn up in the final.

“Providing they want it enough, they will win the All-Ireland. They’re moving well at the moment and I think they’re a better footballing team than Kerry are. I think your man (Pádraig) O’Hora is more than capable of taking care of (David) Clifford.”

The Raheny man anticipates Dublin will return strong next year with so many having experienced championship defeat for the first time. He doesn’t like how they are now being dismissed now that they have finally been defeated and perceived as a dirty team.

“This is not an epitaph. They lost three championship games out of 60-odd (championship) games. No other team in any other sports, the Los Angeles Lakers, the New York Yankees, Manchester United, goes 60 games without a defeat.

“I think this Dublin team will regroup. They have had 10 years without a break. They have been involved in almost every game that has mattered. They have won 95% of their games so I don’t think they have much to worry about.

“Every winning streak comes to an end. In that position, you probably do believe a bit of the propaganda that says you’re unbeatable but these are a great bunch of fellas, I’m very proud of them as a former Dublin footballer and it’s very clear that they are the greatest team to have ever played football.

“They have done it in style. Everyone is now looking to demonise their reputation but to me they’re an impeccable group of young fellas who have done wonderful social work around the city and are always available to publicise stuff. They’re an exemplary bunch of lads.”

Asked if he envisages Stephen Cluxton returning to the panel and Hickey’s response is firmly in the negative.

“I think the fella who should come back is Paul Mannion. Paul is too good to be out of it. I don’t know what Jack (McCaffrey) is at but his career is important to him and he’s at the high end of medicine so it probably doesn’t lend itself (to football). But Paul Mannion should be coaxed back.”

The performance of the weekend for Hickey was Offaly’s U20 All-Ireland final victory against Roscommon.

“The best team I have seen play football this year is the Offaly U20s. They are a breath of fresh air in football. I was so happy.

“They wiped the floor with Dublin, they wiped the floor with Cork, and they beat a very good Roscommon team. That Cork team was very good — their game against Kerry was great.

“They’re playing beautiful football and I hope they don’t split up now because of economic reasons or whatever. I hope most of them can stay together, progress at senior level, and in a couple of years or so be a real challenge to Dublin.”
Crying about 4 refereeing decisions that cost them the game while ignoring the calls that did go in their favour, Dublin could have been a few more men down…. Also “ I don’t think they’re all that good, to be honest about it, and I think Dublin would beat them if they played again tomorrow.”

That is bitter as feck…
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: RedHand88 on August 17, 2021, 01:02:45 PM
It was very much a Father Ted Golden Cleric sort of speech.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: seafoid on August 17, 2021, 01:06:50 PM
"They have done it in style. Everyone is now looking to demonise their reputation but to me they’re an impeccable group of young fellas who have done wonderful social work around the city and are always available to publicise stuff. They’re an exemplary bunch of lads.”

https://youtu.be/F8NDnRke_dY
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 17, 2021, 01:17:08 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360697.html?fbclid=IwAR1JKhEA_3wu6PTL9V3ItouAk5EXhAfteblEpkIlnm2Hp1syts5dkQVdpGY

Bitter as feck..

Which comments specifically show David Hickey to be "bitter as feck"? Have a look at the last couple of paragraphs about Offaly's great win on Sunday.

Irish Examiner

Dublin football great Dr David Hickey expects Mayo to win the All-Ireland title but believes the performance of referee Conor Lane significantly contributed to Dublin’s demise on Saturday.

Three-time All-Ireland winner Hickey, who described Mayo as a “tragic outfit” prior to last December’s final clash with Dublin, is adamant the officiating worked in the favour of the Connacht champions.

“There were four atrocious decisions that swung the game. Number one, the (Rob Hennelly’s) 50 that was missed. It was allowed to be retaken because Mayo had 16 men on the field when it was taken. Dublin were penalised for a Mayo transgression, because (Stephen) Coen didn’t come off in time.

“Number two, the black card for (Colm) Basquel. He passed the ball and a Mayo man ran into his back. He’s not obliged to step aside. A free that was awarded to Dublin was reversed and Mayo scored at the other end.

“Number three, the overcarrying free given against our goalkeeper (Evan Comerford) was an absolute disgrace. And number four, there is a lot of talk about John Small. The hit on Brian Howard just before half-time that effectively put him out of the game was a cowardly attack from behind. He was finished after that.”

As far as tactics go, Hickey cited the decision of James Horan to take off captain Aidan O’Shea in the 49th minute as a key moment.

“I have to congratulate Mayo. The turning point for me was when O’Shea was taken off and I was impressed when that man Horan did that. I don’t think O’Shea has ever played well in big games. Hickey predicts Mayo will beat Kerry who he expects will see off Tyrone on Saturday week.

“I think they stuck to their guns last Saturday and they were very impressive in extra-time but Dublin being down a man in extra-time on a wet day is an impossible situation. I don’t think they’re all that good, to be honest about it, and I think Dublin would beat them if they played again tomorrow.

“But I think they have a good chance of beating Kerry now although their history shows that when they have a big win in an All-Ireland semi-final, they think they are there. They did the same in 2012 when they beat us and they didn’t turn up in the final.

“Providing they want it enough, they will win the All-Ireland. They’re moving well at the moment and I think they’re a better footballing team than Kerry are. I think your man (Pádraig) O’Hora is more than capable of taking care of (David) Clifford.”

The Raheny man anticipates Dublin will return strong next year with so many having experienced championship defeat for the first time. He doesn’t like how they are now being dismissed now that they have finally been defeated and perceived as a dirty team.

“This is not an epitaph. They lost three championship games out of 60-odd (championship) games. No other team in any other sports, the Los Angeles Lakers, the New York Yankees, Manchester United, goes 60 games without a defeat.

“I think this Dublin team will regroup. They have had 10 years without a break. They have been involved in almost every game that has mattered. They have won 95% of their games so I don’t think they have much to worry about.

“Every winning streak comes to an end. In that position, you probably do believe a bit of the propaganda that says you’re unbeatable but these are a great bunch of fellas, I’m very proud of them as a former Dublin footballer and it’s very clear that they are the greatest team to have ever played football.

“They have done it in style. Everyone is now looking to demonise their reputation but to me they’re an impeccable group of young fellas who have done wonderful social work around the city and are always available to publicise stuff. They’re an exemplary bunch of lads.”

Asked if he envisages Stephen Cluxton returning to the panel and Hickey’s response is firmly in the negative.

“I think the fella who should come back is Paul Mannion. Paul is too good to be out of it. I don’t know what Jack (McCaffrey) is at but his career is important to him and he’s at the high end of medicine so it probably doesn’t lend itself (to football). But Paul Mannion should be coaxed back.”

The performance of the weekend for Hickey was Offaly’s U20 All-Ireland final victory against Roscommon.

“The best team I have seen play football this year is the Offaly U20s. They are a breath of fresh air in football. I was so happy.

“They wiped the floor with Dublin, they wiped the floor with Cork, and they beat a very good Roscommon team. That Cork team was very good — their game against Kerry was great.

“They’re playing beautiful football and I hope they don’t split up now because of economic reasons or whatever. I hope most of them can stay together, progress at senior level, and in a couple of years or so be a real challenge to Dublin.”
Crying about 4 refereeing decisions that cost them the game while ignoring the calls that did go in their favour, Dublin could have been a few more men down…. Also “ I don’t think they’re all that good, to be honest about it, and I think Dublin would beat them if they played again tomorrow.”

That is bitter as feck…
The bit about taking O’Shea off smacks of a dig as well. Poor form but to be fair they aren’t used to losing. I wouldn’t pass too much remarks on it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Armagh18 on August 17, 2021, 02:38:33 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360697.html?fbclid=IwAR1JKhEA_3wu6PTL9V3ItouAk5EXhAfteblEpkIlnm2Hp1syts5dkQVdpGY

Bitter as feck..

Which comments specifically show David Hickey to be "bitter as feck"? Have a look at the last couple of paragraphs about Offaly's great win on Sunday.

Irish Examiner

Dublin football great Dr David Hickey expects Mayo to win the All-Ireland title but believes the performance of referee Conor Lane significantly contributed to Dublin’s demise on Saturday.

Three-time All-Ireland winner Hickey, who described Mayo as a “tragic outfit” prior to last December’s final clash with Dublin, is adamant the officiating worked in the favour of the Connacht champions.

“There were four atrocious decisions that swung the game. Number one, the (Rob Hennelly’s) 50 that was missed. It was allowed to be retaken because Mayo had 16 men on the field when it was taken. Dublin were penalised for a Mayo transgression, because (Stephen) Coen didn’t come off in time.

“Number two, the black card for (Colm) Basquel. He passed the ball and a Mayo man ran into his back. He’s not obliged to step aside. A free that was awarded to Dublin was reversed and Mayo scored at the other end.

“Number three, the overcarrying free given against our goalkeeper (Evan Comerford) was an absolute disgrace. And number four, there is a lot of talk about John Small. The hit on Brian Howard just before half-time that effectively put him out of the game was a cowardly attack from behind. He was finished after that.”

As far as tactics go, Hickey cited the decision of James Horan to take off captain Aidan O’Shea in the 49th minute as a key moment.

“I have to congratulate Mayo. The turning point for me was when O’Shea was taken off and I was impressed when that man Horan did that. I don’t think O’Shea has ever played well in big games. Hickey predicts Mayo will beat Kerry who he expects will see off Tyrone on Saturday week.

“I think they stuck to their guns last Saturday and they were very impressive in extra-time but Dublin being down a man in extra-time on a wet day is an impossible situation. I don’t think they’re all that good, to be honest about it, and I think Dublin would beat them if they played again tomorrow.

“But I think they have a good chance of beating Kerry now although their history shows that when they have a big win in an All-Ireland semi-final, they think they are there. They did the same in 2012 when they beat us and they didn’t turn up in the final.

“Providing they want it enough, they will win the All-Ireland. They’re moving well at the moment and I think they’re a better footballing team than Kerry are. I think your man (Pádraig) O’Hora is more than capable of taking care of (David) Clifford.”

The Raheny man anticipates Dublin will return strong next year with so many having experienced championship defeat for the first time. He doesn’t like how they are now being dismissed now that they have finally been defeated and perceived as a dirty team.

“This is not an epitaph. They lost three championship games out of 60-odd (championship) games. No other team in any other sports, the Los Angeles Lakers, the New York Yankees, Manchester United, goes 60 games without a defeat.

“I think this Dublin team will regroup. They have had 10 years without a break. They have been involved in almost every game that has mattered. They have won 95% of their games so I don’t think they have much to worry about.

“Every winning streak comes to an end. In that position, you probably do believe a bit of the propaganda that says you’re unbeatable but these are a great bunch of fellas, I’m very proud of them as a former Dublin footballer and it’s very clear that they are the greatest team to have ever played football.

“They have done it in style. Everyone is now looking to demonise their reputation but to me they’re an impeccable group of young fellas who have done wonderful social work around the city and are always available to publicise stuff. They’re an exemplary bunch of lads.”

Asked if he envisages Stephen Cluxton returning to the panel and Hickey’s response is firmly in the negative.

“I think the fella who should come back is Paul Mannion. Paul is too good to be out of it. I don’t know what Jack (McCaffrey) is at but his career is important to him and he’s at the high end of medicine so it probably doesn’t lend itself (to football). But Paul Mannion should be coaxed back.”

The performance of the weekend for Hickey was Offaly’s U20 All-Ireland final victory against Roscommon.

“The best team I have seen play football this year is the Offaly U20s. They are a breath of fresh air in football. I was so happy.

“They wiped the floor with Dublin, they wiped the floor with Cork, and they beat a very good Roscommon team. That Cork team was very good — their game against Kerry was great.

“They’re playing beautiful football and I hope they don’t split up now because of economic reasons or whatever. I hope most of them can stay together, progress at senior level, and in a couple of years or so be a real challenge to Dublin.”
Crying about 4 refereeing decisions that cost them the game while ignoring the calls that did go in their favour, Dublin could have been a few more men down…. Also “ I don’t think they’re all that good, to be honest about it, and I think Dublin would beat them if they played again tomorrow.”

That is bitter as feck…
The bit about taking O’Shea off smacks of a dig as well. Poor form but to be fair they aren’t used to losing. I wouldn’t pass too much remarks on it.
Agreed. Although taking O’Shea off was the right call and was shown to be, obviously.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 17, 2021, 02:42:46 PM
Decisions go for you and against you in big games, Dublin have got their fair share of calls over the years, some for , some against.

Il only begrudge decision, the Hennelly point, but its all buts, if he scored first time, would Lane had made him take it again? However Mayo the better team after half time,  still think Dublin threw it away and could have easily won it, should of won the game.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on August 17, 2021, 03:38:38 PM
Decisions go for you and against you in big games, Dublin have got their fair share of calls over the years, some for , some against.

Il only begrudge decision, the Hennelly point, but its all buts, if he scored first time, would Lane had made him take it again? However Mayo the better team after half time,  still think Dublin threw it away and could have easily won it, should of won the game.

What I've heard, and it makes sense if you look back because Deegan is still standing about 4 yards away from him on the 45 and on the pitch when he takes the kick, and you can see Deegan pointing when Robbie is about to make contact. That's interference from an official, really.

EDIT - bit I omitted from the above was that as he was running up Deegan was telling him not to take it.
If you look back at the first take on Youtube, you'll see what I mean.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2021, 07:23:05 PM
Decisions go for you and against you in big games, Dublin have got their fair share of calls over the years, some for , some against.

Il only begrudge decision, the Hennelly point, but its all buts, if he scored first time, would Lane had made him take it again? However Mayo the better team after half time,  still think Dublin threw it away and could have easily won it, should of won the game.

What I've heard, and it makes sense if you look back because Deegan is still standing about 4 yards away from him on the 45 and on the pitch when he takes the kick, and you can see Deegan pointing when Robbie is about to make contact. That's interference from an official, really.

EDIT - bit I omitted from the above was that as he was running up Deegan was telling him not to take it.
If you look back at the first take on Youtube, you'll see what I mean.

As far as I’m concerned it’s not even a debate. It’s clear on video that the referee runs up to tell him to stop before he makes contact with the ball. It had to be retaken.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2021, 07:27:04 PM
Imagine he scored the first one and missed the retake.

Is there any chance of O’Shea getting banned from the final for going on the pitch during that schemuzzle?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
Imagine he scored the first one and missed the retake.

Is there any chance of O’Shea getting banned from the final for going on the pitch during that schemuzzle?

Probably not but he absolutely should be.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on August 17, 2021, 07:29:24 PM
Imagine he scored the first one and missed the retake.

Is there any chance of O’Shea getting banned from the final for going on the pitch during that schemuzzle?

Probably not but he absolutely should be.

Probably not as the Ref had actually blown up the game before he came on.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 17, 2021, 07:34:35 PM
Game was up, subs can be on the field unless runs have changed
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: seafoid on August 17, 2021, 07:40:49 PM
I hope 2021 isn't a rerun of 2006
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 17, 2021, 07:45:06 PM
Imagine he scored the first one and missed the retake.

Is there any chance of O’Shea getting banned from the final for going on the pitch during that schemuzzle?

No.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on August 17, 2021, 07:46:21 PM
Game was up, subs can be on the field unless runs have changed
Correct. if you look at this clip, you'll see lane on 11 seconds telling the players to clear the pitch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOfpG57P554

Then at 22 seconds you see him holding out his arms to signal the end of the game. I've not seen the Sky version but it looks like RTE kept the clock running when the game was signaled as over.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2021, 07:56:55 PM
Game was up, subs can be on the field unless runs have changed

No, Lane blew it up after he lost control of that situation.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: FearAnFhírinne on August 17, 2021, 08:19:15 PM
Game was up, subs can be on the field unless runs have changed

No, Lane blew it up after he lost control of that situation.

He blew it up before that. He had lost control of the game long before that, in reality.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: highorlow on August 17, 2021, 09:44:14 PM
Time RTE got rid of the Dublin commentator for matches, he is brutal, McStay is as bad.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: rodney trotter on August 17, 2021, 10:02:35 PM
I don't think Darragh Maloney knows much of the rules. He's more of a soccer commentator,
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: fearbrags on August 18, 2021, 03:47:40 AM
I don't think Darragh Maloney knows much of the rules. He's more of a soccer commentator,

Does anyone know  the rules??  Clearly Conor Lane didn't on Saturday anyways ?   From reading here there are  various interpretations of the rules (some miles a part) ;)
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 18, 2021, 08:21:36 AM
Time RTE got rid of the Dublin commentator for matches, he is brutal, McStay is as bad.

Mayo people are never happy. Ye won. You enjoy the victory 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 18, 2021, 09:17:27 AM
Time RTE got rid of the Dublin commentator for matches, he is brutal, McStay is as bad.

We won't hear Moloney anymore this year. He only commentates on Dublin matches. We'll probably have Marty 'monologue' Morrissey and Dessie Dolan for the final! :-X
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 18, 2021, 09:32:39 AM
Time RTE got rid of the Dublin commentator for matches, he is brutal, McStay is as bad.

Mayo people are never happy. Ye won. You enjoy the victory 🤣🤣🤣

Worse than the Dubs. Always giving out, no one can do wrong in Mayo..
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 18, 2021, 09:38:33 AM
Time RTE got rid of the Dublin commentator for matches, he is brutal, McStay is as bad.

We won't hear Moloney anymore this year. He only commentates on Dublin matches. We'll probably have Marty 'monologue' Morrissey and Dessie Dolan for the final! :-X

Dessie will have wear half n half Jersey for final. Has serious horn for Kerry and Mayo.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Gael85 on August 18, 2021, 02:15:24 PM
Congrats to Mayo on the win Saturday.  Well deserved the win. Make sure ye push on and win the final.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: yellowcard on August 18, 2021, 03:17:10 PM
Time RTE got rid of the Dublin commentator for matches, he is brutal, McStay is as bad.

We won't hear Moloney anymore this year. He only commentates on Dublin matches. We'll probably have Marty 'monologue' Morrissey and Dessie Dolan for the final! :-X

Moloney is probably the best of the commentators on RTE but there is not much competition. Marty is ok for interviewing fans and doing a bit of the light hearted stuff around matches but he is not a serious commentator and Ger Canning would need to be put out to pasture at this stage.   
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 19, 2021, 10:26:23 AM
Time RTE got rid of the Dublin commentator for matches, he is brutal, McStay is as bad.

We won't hear Moloney anymore this year. He only commentates on Dublin matches. We'll probably have Marty 'monologue' Morrissey and Dessie Dolan for the final! :-X

Moloney is probably the best of the commentators on RTE but there is not much competition. Marty is ok for interviewing fans and doing a bit of the light hearted stuff around matches but he is not a serious commentator and Ger Canning would need to be put out to pasture at this stage.   

Moloney is probably the best of an average lot. Marty is ok, but still ahead of Canning, who  is brutal. I just can’t listen to him. I switch to the Irish language commentary or mute.

It’s time RTE brought in a few decent commentators.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: chrissears on August 19, 2021, 01:58:56 PM
Changing the subject here, I cannot believe the tactics Dublin used in the first half, we were seven points down at one stage and they started hand-passing the ball around the backs like there was 3 or 4 minutes left of the whole game. If they attacked, they could have been out of sight. Very strange but delighted all the same.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on August 19, 2021, 02:43:29 PM
It's been a feature of Dublin's play all year, unfortunately.  Sort of got me wondering whether it was a ploy to preserve the energy of the starting 15 given that the bench is clearly not as strong as in previous years.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: blanketattack on August 20, 2021, 04:37:52 PM
The media is filled with Paul Caffrey opinions, is it because he's the best person for the media to talk to now that Dublin are back to the flaky team as they were under his management?

Funny I thought the same thing, why are they resurrecting this clown. Can you ever forget his ill advised shoulder on the Mayo coach back in 2006, I think

I remember seeing Caffrey on duty at Croke Park, think it  was the Donegal Dublin semi 2011. Coming back from the shop I  spotted him and Jesus it was tempting to run into the back of  him with a hefty shoulder. But I would’ve dropped me chips, so I thought, feck him

Is that a euphemism for cacking your pants?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: armaghniac on August 20, 2021, 05:03:15 PM
Moloney is probably the best of an average lot. Marty is ok, but still ahead of Canning, who  is brutal. I just can’t listen to him. I switch to the Irish language commentary or mute.

It’s time RTE brought in a few decent commentators.

There is a lot of streaming nowadays, perhaps this could identify a couple of new generation people with an aptitude for commentary.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 20, 2021, 06:52:12 PM
The media is filled with Paul Caffrey opinions, is it because he's the best person for the media to talk to now that Dublin are back to the flaky team as they were under his management?

Funny I thought the same thing, why are they resurrecting this clown. Can you ever forget his ill advised shoulder on the Mayo coach back in 2006, I think

I remember seeing Caffrey on duty at Croke Park, think it  was the Donegal Dublin semi 2011. Coming back from the shop I  spotted him and Jesus it was tempting to run into the back of  him with a hefty shoulder. But I would’ve dropped me chips, so I thought, feck him

Is that a euphemism for cacking your pants?

No I literally would’ve dropped me bag of chips. He got  lucky that day, so he did    ;D
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Down Follower on August 21, 2021, 12:10:52 AM
Moloney is probably the best of an average lot. Marty is ok, but still ahead of Canning, who  is brutal. I just can’t listen to him. I switch to the Irish language commentary or mute.

It’s time RTE brought in a few decent commentators.

There is a lot of streaming nowadays, perhaps this could identify a couple of new generation people with an aptitude for commentary.

BBC commentary is very good actually. Their half time analysis is even better.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: armaghniac on August 21, 2021, 01:44:33 AM
Moloney is probably the best of an average lot. Marty is ok, but still ahead of Canning, who  is brutal. I just can’t listen to him. I switch to the Irish language commentary or mute.

It’s time RTE brought in a few decent commentators.

There is a lot of streaming nowadays, perhaps this could identify a couple of new generation people with an aptitude for commentary.

BBC commentary is very good actually. Their half time analysis is even better.

Niblock goes on and on. In this gaelic football match the team has the football on the gaelic football pitch.... Does he think we are blind? Half time analysis is pretty good to be sure and they don't have a token woman.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 21, 2021, 08:17:23 PM
Moloney is probably the best of an average lot. Marty is ok, but still ahead of Canning, who  is brutal. I just can’t listen to him. I switch to the Irish language commentary or mute.

It’s time RTE brought in a few decent commentators.

There is a lot of streaming nowadays, perhaps this could identify a couple of new generation people with an aptitude for commentary.

BBC commentary is very good actually. Their half time analysis is even better.

Niblock goes on and on. In this gaelic football match the team has the football on the gaelic football pitch.... Does he think we are blind? Half time analysis is pretty good to be sure and they don't have a token woman.

Cora Staunton is one of the best pundits in the country
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: An Watcher on August 22, 2021, 12:12:35 AM
Only person to call out the Dubs for their dirty antics last week, fair play Cora
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on August 22, 2021, 03:34:01 AM
Yes, nobody else in sports media has suggested Dublin did anything else except play fair. 
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 23, 2021, 09:29:16 AM
Did they show the dangerous bodyslam that could of broken a players neck or the breaking of the hurl on the Sunday game last night?

Was there calls for a suspension?

Was there calls to introduce a TMO ref?

Was there any online abuse calling some of the Limerick players scumbags and tinkers?

No.. because they are not Dubs and certainly not from Ballymun.

Ah sure thats hurling ..

A lot of people in Ireland don't watch or follow the GAA outside a passing interest in their own counties, but when Dublin play there is Hyper mass Hysteria across the country,  anything involving Dublin gets mentioned,  even to songs that are played at half time. The media know this, they get the clicks after every Dublin game, they promote it and drive the agenda, especially the non traditional media, posting the same thing over and over again, building up the hysteria online, comments under their posts. I am sure this filters into the minds of the GAA hierarchy and match day officials too!

The Sunday game is a scripted cesspit. Bring back Seo sport.

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 23, 2021, 09:45:23 AM
Did they show the dangerous bodyslam that could of broken a players neck or the breaking of the hurl on the Sunday game last night?

Was there calls for a suspension?

Was there calls to introduce a TMO ref?

Was there any online abuse calling some of the Limerick players scumbags and tinkers?


No.. because they are not Dubs and certainly not from Ballymun.

Ah sure thats hurling ..

A lot of people in Ireland don't watch or follow the GAA outside a passing interest in their own counties, but when Dublin play there is Hyper mass Hysteria across the country,  anything involving Dublin gets mentioned,  even to songs that are played at half time. The media know this, they get the clicks after every Dublin game, they promote it and drive the agenda, especially the non traditional media, posting the same thing over and over again, building up the hysteria online, comments under their posts. I am sure this filters into the minds of the GAA hierarchy and match day officials too!

The Sunday game is a scripted cesspit. Bring back Seo sport.

Yes. I didn’t see the match and I’ve seen the hurl breaking incident multiple times
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 23, 2021, 10:15:56 AM
Did they show the dangerous bodyslam that could of broken a players neck or the breaking of the hurl on the Sunday game last night?

Was there calls for a suspension?

Was there calls to introduce a TMO ref?

Was there any online abuse calling some of the Limerick players scumbags and tinkers?

No.. because they are not Dubs and certainly not from Ballymun.

Ah sure thats hurling ..

A lot of people in Ireland don't watch or follow the GAA outside a passing interest in their own counties, but when Dublin play there is Hyper mass Hysteria across the country,  anything involving Dublin gets mentioned,  even to songs that are played at half time. The media know this, they get the clicks after every Dublin game, they promote it and drive the agenda, especially the non traditional media, posting the same thing over and over again, building up the hysteria online, comments under their posts. I am sure this filters into the minds of the GAA hierarchy and match day officials too!

The Sunday game is a scripted cesspit. Bring back Seo sport.

If the players from Ballymun are having their feelings hurt by people calling them names online , maybe they should just stop assaulting people and play the game fair and square
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 23, 2021, 10:30:03 AM
Did they show the dangerous bodyslam that could of broken a players neck or the breaking of the hurl on the Sunday game last night?

Was there calls for a suspension?

Was there calls to introduce a TMO ref?

Was there any online abuse calling some of the Limerick players scumbags and tinkers?

No.. because they are not Dubs and certainly not from Ballymun.

Ah sure thats hurling ..

A lot of people in Ireland don't watch or follow the GAA outside a passing interest in their own counties, but when Dublin play there is Hyper mass Hysteria across the country,  anything involving Dublin gets mentioned,  even to songs that are played at half time. The media know this, they get the clicks after every Dublin game, they promote it and drive the agenda, especially the non traditional media, posting the same thing over and over again, building up the hysteria online, comments under their posts. I am sure this filters into the minds of the GAA hierarchy and match day officials too!

The Sunday game is a scripted cesspit. Bring back Seo sport.

If the players from Ballymun are having their feelings hurt by people calling them names online , maybe they should just stop assaulting people and play the game fair and square

I wouldn't say they are bothered at all, maybe other people from Ballymun are though, my point is the hypocrisy and the other points i addressed above, which Ireland has abundance of.

Sorry I didn't see any assault, must of missed that one and they have played the game fairly for a decade with 8 All Ireland medals..
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 23, 2021, 10:31:37 AM
Did they show the dangerous bodyslam that could of broken a players neck or the breaking of the hurl on the Sunday game last night?

Was there calls for a suspension?

Was there calls to introduce a TMO ref?

Was there any online abuse calling some of the Limerick players scumbags and tinkers?

No.. because they are not Dubs and certainly not from Ballymun.

Ah sure thats hurling ..

A lot of people in Ireland don't watch or follow the GAA outside a passing interest in their own counties, but when Dublin play there is Hyper mass Hysteria across the country,  anything involving Dublin gets mentioned,  even to songs that are played at half time. The media know this, they get the clicks after every Dublin game, they promote it and drive the agenda, especially the non traditional media, posting the same thing over and over again, building up the hysteria online, comments under their posts. I am sure this filters into the minds of the GAA hierarchy and match day officials too!

The Sunday game is a scripted cesspit. Bring back Seo sport.

If the players from Ballymun are having their feelings hurt by people calling them names online , maybe they should just stop assaulting people and play the game fair and square

I wouldn't say they are bothered at all, maybe other people from Ballymun are though, my point is the hypocrisy and the other points i addressed above, which Ireland has abundance of.

Sorry I didn't see any assault, must of missed that one and they have played the game fairly for a decade with 8 All Ireland medals..

LOL

Eye gouging, biting, head butting , breaking oppositions players noses and jaws (some in off the ball incidents)

You must have a very warped understanding of what playing the game fairly entails

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 23, 2021, 10:36:05 AM
Did they show the dangerous bodyslam that could of broken a players neck or the breaking of the hurl on the Sunday game last night?

Was there calls for a suspension?

Was there calls to introduce a TMO ref?

Was there any online abuse calling some of the Limerick players scumbags and tinkers?

No.. because they are not Dubs and certainly not from Ballymun.

Ah sure thats hurling ..

A lot of people in Ireland don't watch or follow the GAA outside a passing interest in their own counties, but when Dublin play there is Hyper mass Hysteria across the country,  anything involving Dublin gets mentioned,  even to songs that are played at half time. The media know this, they get the clicks after every Dublin game, they promote it and drive the agenda, especially the non traditional media, posting the same thing over and over again, building up the hysteria online, comments under their posts. I am sure this filters into the minds of the GAA hierarchy and match day officials too!

The Sunday game is a scripted cesspit. Bring back Seo sport.

If the players from Ballymun are having their feelings hurt by people calling them names online , maybe they should just stop assaulting people and play the game fair and square

I wouldn't say they are bothered at all, maybe other people from Ballymun are though, my point is the hypocrisy and the other points i addressed above, which Ireland has abundance of.

Sorry I didn't see any assault, must of missed that one and they have played the game fairly for a decade with 8 All Ireland medals..

LOL

Eye gouging, biting, head butting , breaking oppositions players noses and jaws (some in off the ball incidents)

In the game last week? I don't think so. Over the 10 years of battles maybe some stuff has happened all right, but when the entire country is against you, and opposition teams want to try and rough you up you have to defend yourself, you must be able to give and to take it when it comes your way. Plenty of incidents went to other way too, Thinking O Carroll and Paddy Andrews. Its a rough tough do or die game, shit will go down.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 23, 2021, 10:39:45 AM
Did they show the dangerous bodyslam that could of broken a players neck or the breaking of the hurl on the Sunday game last night?

Was there calls for a suspension?

Was there calls to introduce a TMO ref?

Was there any online abuse calling some of the Limerick players scumbags and tinkers?

No.. because they are not Dubs and certainly not from Ballymun.

Ah sure thats hurling ..

A lot of people in Ireland don't watch or follow the GAA outside a passing interest in their own counties, but when Dublin play there is Hyper mass Hysteria across the country,  anything involving Dublin gets mentioned,  even to songs that are played at half time. The media know this, they get the clicks after every Dublin game, they promote it and drive the agenda, especially the non traditional media, posting the same thing over and over again, building up the hysteria online, comments under their posts. I am sure this filters into the minds of the GAA hierarchy and match day officials too!

The Sunday game is a scripted cesspit. Bring back Seo sport.

If the players from Ballymun are having their feelings hurt by people calling them names online , maybe they should just stop assaulting people and play the game fair and square

I wouldn't say they are bothered at all, maybe other people from Ballymun are though, my point is the hypocrisy and the other points i addressed above, which Ireland has abundance of.

Sorry I didn't see any assault, must of missed that one and they have played the game fairly for a decade with 8 All Ireland medals..

LOL

Eye gouging, biting, head butting , breaking oppositions players noses and jaws (some in off the ball incidents)

In the game last week? I don't think so. Over the 10 years of battles maybe some stuff has happened all right, but when the entire country is against you, and opposition teams want to try and rough you up you have to defend yourself, you must be able to give and to take it when it comes your way. Plenty of incidents went to other way too, Thinking O Carroll and Paddy Andrews. Its a rough tough do or die game, shit will go down.

They did what they felt they needed to do to win, which including intentionally injuring opposition players. If you think that’s okay and that they should be commended for behaving like that, then I’d take a serious look in the mirror
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on August 23, 2021, 10:53:22 AM
Did they show the dangerous bodyslam that could of broken a players neck or the breaking of the hurl on the Sunday game last night?

Was there calls for a suspension?

Was there calls to introduce a TMO ref?

Was there any online abuse calling some of the Limerick players scumbags and tinkers?

No.. because they are not Dubs and certainly not from Ballymun.

Ah sure thats hurling ..

A lot of people in Ireland don't watch or follow the GAA outside a passing interest in their own counties, but when Dublin play there is Hyper mass Hysteria across the country,  anything involving Dublin gets mentioned,  even to songs that are played at half time. The media know this, they get the clicks after every Dublin game, they promote it and drive the agenda, especially the non traditional media, posting the same thing over and over again, building up the hysteria online, comments under their posts. I am sure this filters into the minds of the GAA hierarchy and match day officials too!

The Sunday game is a scripted cesspit. Bring back Seo sport.

If the players from Ballymun are having their feelings hurt by people calling them names online , maybe they should just stop assaulting people and play the game fair and square

I wouldn't say they are bothered at all, maybe other people from Ballymun are though, my point is the hypocrisy and the other points i addressed above, which Ireland has abundance of.

Sorry I didn't see any assault, must of missed that one and they have played the game fairly for a decade with 8 All Ireland medals..

LOL

Eye gouging, biting, head butting , breaking oppositions players noses and jaws (some in off the ball incidents)

In the game last week? I don't think so. Over the 10 years of battles maybe some stuff has happened all right, but when the entire country is against you, and opposition teams want to try and rough you up you have to defend yourself, you must be able to give and to take it when it comes your way. Plenty of incidents went to other way too, Thinking O Carroll and Paddy Andrews. Its a rough tough do or die game, shit will go down.

They did what they felt they needed to do to win, which including intentionally injuring opposition players. If you think that’s okay and that they should be commended for behaving like that, then I’d take a serious look in the mirror

To be fair the Mayo boys are no Angel's.  Lads tackling with closed fists, high elbows, spear tackles,breaking collarbones, choking opposition players which RTE  seem to ignore. Sean Cavanagh fouled constantly by Lee Keegan in 2016 yet he 2 yellows and the line.Can you imagine outcry if Tyrone done that stuff?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 23, 2021, 11:48:24 AM
Did they show the dangerous bodyslam that could of broken a players neck or the breaking of the hurl on the Sunday game last night?

Was there calls for a suspension?

Was there calls to introduce a TMO ref?

Was there any online abuse calling some of the Limerick players scumbags and tinkers?

No.. because they are not Dubs and certainly not from Ballymun.

Ah sure thats hurling ..

A lot of people in Ireland don't watch or follow the GAA outside a passing interest in their own counties, but when Dublin play there is Hyper mass Hysteria across the country,  anything involving Dublin gets mentioned,  even to songs that are played at half time. The media know this, they get the clicks after every Dublin game, they promote it and drive the agenda, especially the non traditional media, posting the same thing over and over again, building up the hysteria online, comments under their posts. I am sure this filters into the minds of the GAA hierarchy and match day officials too!

The Sunday game is a scripted cesspit. Bring back Seo sport.

If the players from Ballymun are having their feelings hurt by people calling them names online , maybe they should just stop assaulting people and play the game fair and square

I wouldn't say they are bothered at all, maybe other people from Ballymun are though, my point is the hypocrisy and the other points i addressed above, which Ireland has abundance of.

Sorry I didn't see any assault, must of missed that one and they have played the game fairly for a decade with 8 All Ireland medals..

LOL

Eye gouging, biting, head butting , breaking oppositions players noses and jaws (some in off the ball incidents)

In the game last week? I don't think so. Over the 10 years of battles maybe some stuff has happened all right, but when the entire country is against you, and opposition teams want to try and rough you up you have to defend yourself, you must be able to give and to take it when it comes your way. Plenty of incidents went to other way too, Thinking O Carroll and Paddy Andrews. Its a rough tough do or die game, shit will go down.

They did what they felt they needed to do to win, which including intentionally injuring opposition players. If you think that’s okay and that they should be commended for behaving like that, then I’d take a serious look in the mirror

To be fair the Mayo boys are no Angel's.  Lads tackling with closed fists, high elbows, spear tackles,breaking collarbones, choking opposition players which RTE  seem to ignore. Sean Cavanagh fouled constantly by Lee Keegan in 2016 yet he 2 yellows and the line.Can you imagine outcry if Tyrone done that stuff?

And more often than not the referee took appropriate action....note the 2 very early and soft yellows Mayo got in the opening minutes of the 2012 Final against Donegal.

Many neutral observers have said that (apart from the missed red card on Small) the referee bottled at least 3 or 4 black/red cards against Dublin last Saturday. Why does the big team get the big calls?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 23, 2021, 06:16:38 PM
Personally think the mayo Dublin niggle went too far , I also think its naive to think some of these so called personal battles were just part of the game , I dont know but I'd have a wager some of them players mentioned genuinely despise each other.   It wasn't healthy , philly McMahon is a horrible individual and that off the field nicely nice shite doesnt wash with me , hes a wrong un . Look back at that flying kick into cillian in 2015 , seriously messed up that kind of shit .
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: MayoBuck on August 23, 2021, 08:24:18 PM
Personally think the mayo Dublin niggle went too far , I also think its naive to think some of these so called personal battles were just part of the game , I dont know but I'd have a wager some of them players mentioned genuinely despise each other.   It wasn't healthy , philly McMahon is a horrible individual and that off the field nicely nice shite doesnt wash with me , hes a wrong un . Look back at that flying kick into cillian in 2015 , seriously messed up that kind of shit .

Wasn't that cooper on Diarmuid O'Connor in 2015?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 23, 2021, 09:35:00 PM
Personally think the mayo Dublin niggle went too far , I also think its naive to think some of these so called personal battles were just part of the game , I dont know but I'd have a wager some of them players mentioned genuinely despise each other.   It wasn't healthy , philly McMahon is a horrible individual and that off the field nicely nice shite doesnt wash with me , hes a wrong un . Look back at that flying kick into cillian in 2015 , seriously messed up that kind of shit .

Wasn't that cooper on Diarmuid O'Connor in 2015?

You're right , mcmahon was throwing the head that day
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on August 24, 2021, 09:36:45 AM
Personally think the mayo Dublin niggle went too far , I also think its naive to think some of these so called personal battles were just part of the game , I dont know but I'd have a wager some of them players mentioned genuinely despise each other.   It wasn't healthy , philly McMahon is a horrible individual and that off the field nicely nice shite doesnt wash with me , hes a wrong un . Look back at that flying kick into cillian in 2015 , seriously messed up that kind of shit .

Wasn't that cooper on Diarmuid O'Connor in 2015?
Ah here Buck, don’t be disturbing Larry’s ramblings with facts. It’s what in the head that counts.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on August 24, 2021, 10:01:40 AM
Personally think the mayo Dublin niggle went too far , I also think its naive to think some of these so called personal battles were just part of the game , I dont know but I'd have a wager some of them players mentioned genuinely despise each other.   It wasn't healthy , philly McMahon is a horrible individual and that off the field nicely nice shite doesnt wash with me , hes a wrong un . Look back at that flying kick into cillian in 2015 , seriously messed up that kind of shit .

Wasn't that cooper on Diarmuid O'Connor in 2015?
Ah here Buck, don’t be disturbing Larry’s ramblings with facts. It’s what in the head that counts.

Point still stands though , kick still happened albeit I got the player wrong , . McMahon was the worst that day for sure , threw the head into aido , was he even punished for that?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 24, 2021, 10:47:33 AM
:) Mayo lads on the receiving end of a lot of it.

If i was going into battle, id want Philly Mc (in his prime) by my side no problem...

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 24, 2021, 11:26:29 AM
Personally think the mayo Dublin niggle went too far , I also think its naive to think some of these so called personal battles were just part of the game , I dont know but I'd have a wager some of them players mentioned genuinely despise each other.   It wasn't healthy , philly McMahon is a horrible individual and that off the field nicely nice shite doesnt wash with me , hes a wrong un . Look back at that flying kick into cillian in 2015 , seriously messed up that kind of shit .

Wasn't that cooper on Diarmuid O'Connor in 2015?
Ah here Buck, don’t be disturbing Larry’s ramblings with facts. It’s what in the head that counts.

Point still stands though , kick still happened albeit I got the player wrong , . McMahon was the worst that day for sure , threw the head into aido , was he even punished for that?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the42.ie/ciaran-whelan-sunday-game-2305835-Sep2015/%3famp=1

A potentially career ending tackle and it wasn’t in poor Johnny’s nature

Again-players only get away with what they’re let get away with

That was a stonewall red and the ref bottled it followed up by a whitewash by the mighty Dubs media machine

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.balls.ie/amp/gaa/gif-a-lot-of-people-think-johnny-cooper-should-have-been-sent-off-for-this-306846

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 24, 2021, 11:40:47 AM
Personally think the mayo Dublin niggle went too far , I also think its naive to think some of these so called personal battles were just part of the game , I dont know but I'd have a wager some of them players mentioned genuinely despise each other.   It wasn't healthy , philly McMahon is a horrible individual and that off the field nicely nice shite doesnt wash with me , hes a wrong un . Look back at that flying kick into cillian in 2015 , seriously messed up that kind of shit .

Wasn't that cooper on Diarmuid O'Connor in 2015?
Ah here Buck, don’t be disturbing Larry’s ramblings with facts. It’s what in the head that counts.

Point still stands though , kick still happened albeit I got the player wrong , . McMahon was the worst that day for sure , threw the head into aido , was he even punished for that?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the42.ie/ciaran-whelan-sunday-game-2305835-Sep2015/%3famp=1

A potentially career ending tackle and it wasn’t in poor Johnny’s nature

Again-players only get away with what they’re let get away with

That was a stonewall red and the ref bottled it followed up by a whitewash by the mighty Dubs media machine

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.balls.ie/amp/gaa/gif-a-lot-of-people-think-johnny-cooper-should-have-been-sent-off-for-this-306846

Yeah but he wasn't.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Rossfan on August 24, 2021, 12:24:08 PM
Time to close this thread and let the Rhus get on with the Final.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: rrhf on August 24, 2021, 12:42:36 PM
Did they show the dangerous bodyslam that could of broken a players neck or the breaking of the hurl on the Sunday game last night?

Was there calls for a suspension?

Was there calls to introduce a TMO ref?

Was there any online abuse calling some of the Limerick players scumbags and tinkers?

No.. because they are not Dubs and certainly not from Ballymun.

Ah sure thats hurling ..

A lot of people in Ireland don't watch or follow the GAA outside a passing interest in their own counties, but when Dublin play there is Hyper mass Hysteria across the country,  anything involving Dublin gets mentioned,  even to songs that are played at half time. The media know this, they get the clicks after every Dublin game, they promote it and drive the agenda, especially the non traditional media, posting the same thing over and over again, building up the hysteria online, comments under their posts. I am sure this filters into the minds of the GAA hierarchy and match day officials too!

The Sunday game is a scripted cesspit. Bring back Seo sport.

If the players from Ballymun are having their feelings hurt by people calling them names online , maybe they should just stop assaulting people and play the game fair and square

I wouldn't say they are bothered at all, maybe other people from Ballymun are though, my point is the hypocrisy and the other points i addressed above, which Ireland has abundance of.

Sorry I didn't see any assault, must of missed that one and they have played the game fairly for a decade with 8 All Ireland medals..

LOL

Eye gouging, biting, head butting , breaking oppositions players noses and jaws (some in off the ball incidents)

In the game last week? I don't think so. Over the 10 years of battles maybe some stuff has happened all right, but when the entire country is against you, and opposition teams want to try and rough you up you have to defend yourself, you must be able to give and to take it when it comes your way. Plenty of incidents went to other way too, Thinking O Carroll and Paddy Andrews. Its a rough tough do or die game, shit will go down.
Dubs were never soft even in the noughties when they were not winning all irelands.  Whelan amongst other gave some pretty big hits during that period..
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 24, 2021, 01:52:45 PM
Did they show the dangerous bodyslam that could of broken a players neck or the breaking of the hurl on the Sunday game last night?

Was there calls for a suspension?

Was there calls to introduce a TMO ref?

Was there any online abuse calling some of the Limerick players scumbags and tinkers?

No.. because they are not Dubs and certainly not from Ballymun.

Ah sure thats hurling ..

A lot of people in Ireland don't watch or follow the GAA outside a passing interest in their own counties, but when Dublin play there is Hyper mass Hysteria across the country,  anything involving Dublin gets mentioned,  even to songs that are played at half time. The media know this, they get the clicks after every Dublin game, they promote it and drive the agenda, especially the non traditional media, posting the same thing over and over again, building up the hysteria online, comments under their posts. I am sure this filters into the minds of the GAA hierarchy and match day officials too!

The Sunday game is a scripted cesspit. Bring back Seo sport.

If the players from Ballymun are having their feelings hurt by people calling them names online , maybe they should just stop assaulting people and play the game fair and square

I wouldn't say they are bothered at all, maybe other people from Ballymun are though, my point is the hypocrisy and the other points i addressed above, which Ireland has abundance of.

Sorry I didn't see any assault, must of missed that one and they have played the game fairly for a decade with 8 All Ireland medals..

LOL

Eye gouging, biting, head butting , breaking oppositions players noses and jaws (some in off the ball incidents)

In the game last week? I don't think so. Over the 10 years of battles maybe some stuff has happened all right, but when the entire country is against you, and opposition teams want to try and rough you up you have to defend yourself, you must be able to give and to take it when it comes your way. Plenty of incidents went to other way too, Thinking O Carroll and Paddy Andrews. Its a rough tough do or die game, shit will go down.
Dubs were never soft even in the noughties when they were not winning all irelands.  Whelan amongst other gave some pretty big hits during that period..

True, but they were perceived as much, maybe it was more a mental frailty more so than anything, its funny because i use to think the same of Tyrone in 00s, tough men.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: iorras on August 24, 2021, 02:00:40 PM
I dont think Dublin were ever considered tough back in the day, filthy yes, but not tough, theres a difference
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: imtommygunn on August 24, 2021, 02:17:41 PM
They weren't filthy in the noughties. Tbh they weren't that bad in the 90s either. They weren't good in the 70s and 80s mind you. While in a few cases they didn't cover themselves in glory this year I wouldn't say they were filthy either. They have a few boys in Cooper, McCarthy, Small and McMahon who are no angels but at what point is a team filthy? I would have said you require a lot more than that to be considered filthy.

The 2011-2020 team should in no way be considered filthy because they weren't.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 24, 2021, 02:19:34 PM
They weren't filthy in the noughties. Tbh they weren't that bad in the 90s either. They weren't good in the 70s and 80s mind you. While in a few cases they didn't cover themselves in glory this year I wouldn't say they were filthy either. They have a few boys in Cooper, McCarthy, Small and McMahon who are no angels but at what point is a team filthy? I would have said you require a lot more than that to be considered filthy.

The 2011-2020 team should in no way be considered filthy because they weren't.

When they were winning they weren’t

But they disgraced themselves last Saturday when the writing was in the wall
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 24, 2021, 02:35:31 PM
They weren't filthy in the noughties. Tbh they weren't that bad in the 90s either. They weren't good in the 70s and 80s mind you. While in a few cases they didn't cover themselves in glory this year I wouldn't say they were filthy either. They have a few boys in Cooper, McCarthy, Small and McMahon who are no angels but at what point is a team filthy? I would have said you require a lot more than that to be considered filthy.

The 2011-2020 team should in no way be considered filthy because they weren't.

When they were winning they weren’t

But they disgraced themselves last Saturday when the writing was in the wall

No they didnt. Went down fighting, didnt surrender to what was maybe inevitable
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 24, 2021, 02:41:55 PM
I dont think Dublin were ever considered tough back in the day, filthy yes, but not tough, theres a difference
Back in the day the flaky Dubs normally crumbled when they encountered true toughest. Dessie Farrell was part of those flaky Dublin teams and on the evidence of this year as manager he's bringing them back to that unwanted flaky era again.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: imtommygunn on August 24, 2021, 02:43:32 PM
They weren't filthy in the noughties. Tbh they weren't that bad in the 90s either. They weren't good in the 70s and 80s mind you. While in a few cases they didn't cover themselves in glory this year I wouldn't say they were filthy either. They have a few boys in Cooper, McCarthy, Small and McMahon who are no angels but at what point is a team filthy? I would have said you require a lot more than that to be considered filthy.

The 2011-2020 team should in no way be considered filthy because they weren't.

When they were winning they weren’t

But they disgraced themselves last Saturday when the writing was in the wall

They weren't winning that much in the 90s or the noughties. If you took Keith Barr and arguably Tommy Carr out in the 90s they weren't that bad at all. Noughties weren't that bad either.

I think the Mayo game is being over egged a bit. McCarthy lost the rag a bit and Small to be honest goes for big hits so has that in him. The main thing I would wonder about is why McMahon was sent in there and you look at what he was at when he went on but that aside a few boys lost the rag a wee bit and it wasn't that bad. The Small thing was nothing to do with defeat. They weren't beat at that stage.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: gallsman on August 24, 2021, 02:44:46 PM
In fairness, I've always maintained Jonny Cooper should be red carded before the game even starts. He commit the fouls soon enough, so might as well get it over and done with.

That said, the incident with O'Connor was a rarity. He gets away with a lot of fouls (until the Clifford one two years ago) bit he's very rarely outright dirty.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 24, 2021, 02:52:54 PM
They weren't filthy in the noughties. Tbh they weren't that bad in the 90s either. They weren't good in the 70s and 80s mind you. While in a few cases they didn't cover themselves in glory this year I wouldn't say they were filthy either. They have a few boys in Cooper, McCarthy, Small and McMahon who are no angels but at what point is a team filthy? I would have said you require a lot more than that to be considered filthy.

The 2011-2020 team should in no way be considered filthy because they weren't.

When they were winning they weren’t

But they disgraced themselves last Saturday when the writing was in the wall

No they didnt. Went down fighting, didnt surrender to what was maybe inevitable

Elbows to the neck, shoulders to the jaw, punches to the face-delightful behaviour entirely

Again I have no problem with them-my problem is with the referee copping out and not issuing the appropriate cards thereby keeping them in the game
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 24, 2021, 03:04:46 PM
They weren't filthy in the noughties. Tbh they weren't that bad in the 90s either. They weren't good in the 70s and 80s mind you. While in a few cases they didn't cover themselves in glory this year I wouldn't say they were filthy either. They have a few boys in Cooper, McCarthy, Small and McMahon who are no angels but at what point is a team filthy? I would have said you require a lot more than that to be considered filthy.

The 2011-2020 team should in no way be considered filthy because they weren't.

When they were winning they weren’t

But they disgraced themselves last Saturday when the writing was in the wall

No they didnt. Went down fighting, didnt surrender to what was maybe inevitable

Elbows to the neck, shoulders to the jaw, punches to the face-delightful behavior entirely

Again I have no problem with them-my problem is with the referee copping out and not issuing the appropriate cards thereby keeping them in the game

Elbows and punches, common occurrences between Dublin and Mayo by both sides, tbh I didn't see them, I don't watch the Sunday game as its poison so may have missed them there, didnt see them from the upper Hogan.

The shoulder a legitimate attempt at playing the game, trying to disposes the player while giving him a right clatter. Unfortunate the player got hurt, but going over old ground there.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 24, 2021, 03:05:57 PM
You should all bring up the 83 team while your at it :)

The dirty dozen what.....
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 24, 2021, 03:09:04 PM
They weren't filthy in the noughties. Tbh they weren't that bad in the 90s either. They weren't good in the 70s and 80s mind you. While in a few cases they didn't cover themselves in glory this year I wouldn't say they were filthy either. They have a few boys in Cooper, McCarthy, Small and McMahon who are no angels but at what point is a team filthy? I would have said you require a lot more than that to be considered filthy.

The 2011-2020 team should in no way be considered filthy because they weren't.

When they were winning they weren’t

But they disgraced themselves last Saturday when the writing was in the wall

No they didnt. Went down fighting
, didnt surrender to what was maybe inevitable

Best example of unintentional irony I have ever come across. :D :D
Not quite as bad as the closing minutes of the '17 final but close.

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 24, 2021, 03:12:23 PM
They weren't filthy in the noughties. Tbh they weren't that bad in the 90s either. They weren't good in the 70s and 80s mind you. While in a few cases they didn't cover themselves in glory this year I wouldn't say they were filthy either. They have a few boys in Cooper, McCarthy, Small and McMahon who are no angels but at what point is a team filthy? I would have said you require a lot more than that to be considered filthy.

The 2011-2020 team should in no way be considered filthy because they weren't.

When they were winning they weren’t

But they disgraced themselves last Saturday when the writing was in the wall

No they didnt. Went down fighting
, didnt surrender to what was maybe inevitable

Best example of unintentional irony I have ever come across. :D :D
Not quite as bad as the closing minutes of the '17 final but close.

Well 17 final Dublin were definitely cynical closing out the game. All of us would do the same, Dont say you wouldnt, whatever it takes to get across the line.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 24, 2021, 03:17:39 PM
They weren't filthy in the noughties. Tbh they weren't that bad in the 90s either. They weren't good in the 70s and 80s mind you. While in a few cases they didn't cover themselves in glory this year I wouldn't say they were filthy either. They have a few boys in Cooper, McCarthy, Small and McMahon who are no angels but at what point is a team filthy? I would have said you require a lot more than that to be considered filthy.

The 2011-2020 team should in no way be considered filthy because they weren't.

When they were winning they weren’t

But they disgraced themselves last Saturday when the writing was in the wall

No they didnt. Went down fighting
, didnt surrender to what was maybe inevitable

Best example of unintentional irony I have ever come across. :D :D
Not quite as bad as the closing minutes of the '17 final but close.

Well 17 final Dublin were definitely cynical closing out the game. All of us would do the same, Dont say you wouldnt, whatever it takes to get across the line.

Would that include eye gouging, biting and head butting?

Again fair enough-but don’t start playing the victim when you get called out over it
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on August 24, 2021, 03:52:39 PM
They weren't filthy in the noughties. Tbh they weren't that bad in the 90s either. They weren't good in the 70s and 80s mind you. While in a few cases they didn't cover themselves in glory this year I wouldn't say they were filthy either. They have a few boys in Cooper, McCarthy, Small and McMahon who are no angels but at what point is a team filthy? I would have said you require a lot more than that to be considered filthy.

The 2011-2020 team should in no way be considered filthy because they weren't.

When they were winning they weren’t

But they disgraced themselves last Saturday when the writing was in the wall

No they didnt. Went down fighting
, didnt surrender to what was maybe inevitable

Best example of unintentional irony I have ever come across. :D :D
Not quite as bad as the closing minutes of the '17 final but close.

Well 17 final Dublin were definitely cynical closing out the game. All of us would do the same, Dont say you wouldnt, whatever it takes to get across the line.

Would that include eye gouging, biting and head butting?

Again fair enough-but don’t start playing the victim when you get called out over it

Havent seen any of those allegations above, so not sure if they are true.

Not playing the victim at all, i know Dublin dish it out, and to dish it out you must be able to take it too.

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 24, 2021, 04:23:47 PM
Again-I have no problem with them “dishing it out”

I have a problem with referees bottling the big calls and refusing to issue cards where appropriate

Neutral observers point to (approx) 2 red and 3 black cards that the ref missed against Dublin last Saturday.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 24, 2021, 05:02:43 PM
They weren't filthy in the noughties. Tbh they weren't that bad in the 90s either. They weren't good in the 70s and 80s mind you. While in a few cases they didn't cover themselves in glory this year I wouldn't say they were filthy either. They have a few boys in Cooper, McCarthy, Small and McMahon who are no angels but at what point is a team filthy? I would have said you require a lot more than that to be considered filthy.

The 2011-2020 team should in no way be considered filthy because they weren't.

When they were winning they weren’t

But they disgraced themselves last Saturday when the writing was in the wall

They weren't winning that much in the 90s or the noughties. If you took Keith Barr and arguably Tommy Carr out in the 90s they weren't that bad at all. Noughties weren't that bad either.

I think the Mayo game is being over egged a bit. McCarthy lost the rag a bit and Small to be honest goes for big hits so has that in him. The main thing I would wonder about is why McMahon was sent in there and you look at what he was at when he went on but that aside a few boys lost the rag a wee bit and it wasn't that bad. The Small thing was nothing to do with defeat. They weren't beat at that stage.

You obviously forget Whelan’s antics in the noughties. The dirtiest hallion in the game at that time. Disgraceful the things he got away with.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: imtommygunn on August 24, 2021, 05:17:27 PM
Ah yes forgot him and maybe Johnny Magee. They weren’t significantly dirty though even still.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: gallsman on August 24, 2021, 07:11:37 PM
Whelan threw a few boxes in his time (was it Nigel Nestor he smacked before the throw in one time?) but I'd never have said he'd have been particularly filthy.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on August 24, 2021, 07:13:57 PM
Whelan threw a few boxes in his time (was it Nigel Nestor he smacked before the throw in one time?) but I'd never have said he'd have been particularly filthy.

Took Mcgarrity out of the game in 06

Another straight red not given

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wvGVM0CUHWs
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: BennyCake on August 24, 2021, 09:47:31 PM
Whelan threw a few boxes in his time (was it Nigel Nestor he smacked before the throw in one time?) but I'd never have said he'd have been particularly filthy.

He busted Nestor’s nose from the throw in. Not even sure he got yellow for it. Went after a Westmeath player and elbowed  him in the face in front of the referee. Karate kicked a Wexford player in the chest, finally earning a red card, after half a dozen assaults in the same game.

It wasn’t what he did that was the most shocking , but what he actually got away with
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 24, 2021, 11:09:40 PM
Whelan threw a few boxes in his time (was it Nigel Nestor he smacked before the throw in one time?) but I'd never have said he'd have been particularly filthy.

Took Mcgarrity out of the game in 06

Another straight red not given

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wvGVM0CUHWs
He wasn't too brave when David Brady came on and tweaked his lugs for him. Stayed out of his way for the rest of the game.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on September 07, 2021, 11:04:37 AM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on September 07, 2021, 01:34:23 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.
Thanks for that.

What a complete moron ‘Liamy MacNally’ is! 😂

Let’s hope they win the final, otherwise I can only imagine the drivel he would direct at Tyrone….
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: larryin89 on September 07, 2021, 01:37:37 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.
Thanks for that.

What a complete moron ‘Liamy MacNally’ is! 😂

Let’s hope they win the final, otherwise I can only imagine the drivel he would direct at Tyrone….

Why is he a moron ?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Hound on September 07, 2021, 01:57:09 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.
Thanks for that.

What a complete moron ‘Liamy MacNally’ is! 😂

Let’s hope they win the final, otherwise I can only imagine the drivel he would direct at Tyrone….

Why is he a moron ?
Did you not read his tripe?

"For too long everyone has accepted the thuggery that Dublin players mete out

The other sad development is the acceptance of dirty tactics as practiced by several GAA teams, including Dublin and Kerry
"

So Dublin and Kerry are the dirtbirds and Mayo are as white as the driven snow! There’s no Mayo lads who ever hit off the ball, never go in with high challenges, Mayo are clean and pure.
Utter naïve garbage.

Says no sportsmanship about Dublin, but Lee Keegan “pulses Gaelic perfection”! Lee of course very sportingly threw his GPS monitor at Dean Rock when taking an important free and has never handled an opponent in his life.

Then the usual moronic tripe that Leitrim being bad is somehow Dubin’s fault. A team with 2 Connacht titles in its history when Mayo and Galway are approaching 50 each. In a province with 5 counties, they’ve reached the Connacht final twice in 50 years. Staggering. But it's Dublin’s fault that Leitirm cannot compete at all with Mayo and Galway!

Yep Liamy is a moron, to be sure.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on September 07, 2021, 02:19:26 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.
Thanks for that.

What a complete moron ‘Liamy MacNally’ is! 😂

Let’s hope they win the final, otherwise I can only imagine the drivel he would direct at Tyrone….

Why is he a moron ?
Did you not read his tripe?

"For too long everyone has accepted the thuggery that Dublin players mete out

The other sad development is the acceptance of dirty tactics as practiced by several GAA teams, including Dublin and Kerry
"

So Dublin and Kerry are the dirtbirds and Mayo are as white as the driven snow! There’s no Mayo lads who ever hit off the ball, never go in with high challenges, Mayo are clean and pure.
Utter naïve garbage.

Says no sportsmanship about Dublin, but Lee Keegan “pulses Gaelic perfection”! Lee of course very sportingly threw his GPS monitor at Dean Rock when taking an important free and has never handled an opponent in his life.

Then the usual moronic tripe that Leitrim being bad is somehow Dubin’s fault. A team with 2 Connacht titles in its history when Mayo and Galway are approaching 50 each. In a province with 5 counties, they’ve reached the Connacht final twice in 50 years. Staggering. But it's Dublin’s fault that Leitirm cannot compete at all with Mayo and Galway!

Yep Liamy is a moron, to be sure.

To much logic for some people to understand.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on September 07, 2021, 02:25:04 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.

A drunken Facebook rant, that's all that is. Shows the true mindset of Mayo and Mayo people in general, always somebody else fault.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on September 07, 2021, 02:30:57 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.

I have no problem with Dublin or how they play the game

I have a problem with the match officials not doing their jobs

Realistically the last day-he missed 4 red cards for Dublin and one for Mayo

(1 for McCarthy, 2 for John Small and one for Paddy Small. DOC could have gotten a red for a very high challenge near the end. Dublin yellow for the pull back was a yellow, but  a few years ago Keegan was given a lack for exactly the same foul)
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: rosnarun on September 07, 2021, 05:01:05 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.


I have no problem with Dublin or how they play the game

I have a problem with the match officials not doing their jobs

Realistically the last day-he missed 4 red cards for Dublin and one for Mayo

(1 for McCarthy, 2 for John Small and one for Paddy Small. DOC could have gotten a red for a very high challenge near the end. Dublin yellow for the pull back was a yellow, but  a few years ago Keegan was given a lack for exactly the same foul)
rules have changed a bit since i thinki .  even if ht didnt get a clack for vring the man down he should definetly have got one for 3rd man tackle lis Basquel did.
another thing i notoiced  was there was a 3rd man tackle abour 15 to 20 yards behind the play if it was a free then surely it should have taken place where the ball was not ging the offending tack the advantage bu bring it out of scoring range?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on September 07, 2021, 05:51:25 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.

I have no problem with Dublin or how they play the game

I have a problem with the match officials not doing their jobs

Realistically the last day-he missed 4 red cards for Dublin and one for Mayo

(1 for McCarthy, 2 for John Small and one for Paddy Small. DOC could have gotten a red for a very high challenge near the end. Dublin yellow for the pull back was a yellow, but  a few years ago Keegan was given a lack for exactly the same foul)

I remember the dubs and mayo 2019 I think. Matthew Ruane punched O'Callaghan  in stomach, Kevin McLoughlin stood  on Neil Scully and O'connor got his customary high tackle and got the line. It bit rich coming from mayo. One of the most cynical outfits  and get away with 9/10 times. Yet to see referee pull them up on constantly standing over opposition taking quick frees. Kevin McLoughlin King of this.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on September 07, 2021, 06:00:30 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.
Thanks for that.

What a complete moron ‘Liamy MacNally’ is! 😂

Let’s hope they win the final, otherwise I can only imagine the drivel he would direct at Tyrone….

I hate see what he write if they lost. Some lads never happy.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on September 07, 2021, 06:09:12 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.

I have no problem with Dublin or how they play the game

I have a problem with the match officials not doing their jobs

Realistically the last day-he missed 4 red cards for Dublin and one for Mayo

(1 for McCarthy, 2 for John Small and one for Paddy Small. DOC could have gotten a red for a very high challenge near the end. Dublin yellow for the pull back was a yellow, but  a few years ago Keegan was given a lack for exactly the same foul)

I remember the dubs and mayo 2019 I think. Matthew Ruane punched O'Callaghan  in stomach, Kevin McLoughlin stood  on Neil Scully and O'connor got his customary high tackle and got the line. It bit rich coming from mayo. One of the most cynical outfits  and get away with 9/10 times. Yet to see referee pull them up on constantly standing over opposition taking quick frees. Kevin McLoughlin King of this.

We could go on and on

Johnny Coopers leg break attempt on DOC

Tom Parsons getting 7 stitches after an otb incident with “the Saint”

Mayo player getting a broker nose in an other OTB incident with “the Saint”

Colm Boyle getting 3 thumps in the face off “the Saint” after winning the penalty during the drawn semi final game

MDMA clothes lining COC and then body slamming him to the ground


But back to the Liam McNally article you accused me of writing-more than one neutral observer of that game claim that the referee missed at least 3 if not 4 straight reds for the Dubs

Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 07, 2021, 06:54:56 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.

I have no problem with Dublin or how they play the game

I have a problem with the match officials not doing their jobs

Realistically the last day-he missed 4 red cards for Dublin and one for Mayo

(1 for McCarthy, 2 for John Small and one for Paddy Small. DOC could have gotten a red for a very high challenge near the end. Dublin yellow for the pull back was a yellow, but  a few years ago Keegan was given a lack for exactly the same foul)

I remember the dubs and mayo 2019 I think. Matthew Ruane punched O'Callaghan  in stomach, Kevin McLoughlin stood  on Neil Scully and O'connor got his customary high tackle and got the line. It bit rich coming from mayo. One of the most cynical outfits  and get away with 9/10 times. Yet to see referee pull them up on constantly standing over opposition taking quick frees. Kevin McLoughlin King of this.

We could go on and on

Johnny Coopers leg break attempt on DOC

Tom Parsons getting 7 stitches after an otb incident with “the Saint”

Mayo player getting a broker nose in an other OTB incident with “the Saint”

Colm Boyle getting 3 thumps in the face off “the Saint” after winning the penalty during the drawn semi final game

MDMA clothes lining COC and then body slamming him to the ground


But back to the Liam McNally article you accused me of writing-more than one neutral observer of that game claim that the referee missed at least 3 if not 4 straight reds for the Dubs

What your point lads, that Dublin and Mayo thrive on thuggery behaviour?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on September 08, 2021, 06:41:59 AM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.

I have no problem with Dublin or how they play the game

I have a problem with the match officials not doing their jobs

Realistically the last day-he missed 4 red cards for Dublin and one for Mayo

(1 for McCarthy, 2 for John Small and one for Paddy Small. DOC could have gotten a red for a very high challenge near the end. Dublin yellow for the pull back was a yellow, but  a few years ago Keegan was given a lack for exactly the same foul)

I remember the dubs and mayo 2019 I think. Matthew Ruane punched O'Callaghan  in stomach, Kevin McLoughlin stood  on Neil Scully and O'connor got his customary high tackle and got the line. It bit rich coming from mayo. One of the most cynical outfits  and get away with 9/10 times. Yet to see referee pull them up on constantly standing over opposition taking quick frees. Kevin McLoughlin King of this.

We could go on and on

Johnny Coopers leg break attempt on DOC

Tom Parsons getting 7 stitches after an otb incident with “the Saint”

Mayo player getting a broker nose in an other OTB incident with “the Saint”

Colm Boyle getting 3 thumps in the face off “the Saint” after winning the penalty during the drawn semi final game

MDMA clothes lining COC and then body slamming him to the ground


But back to the Liam McNally article you accused me of writing-more than one neutral observer of that game claim that the referee missed at least 3 if not 4 straight reds for the Dubs

Its like the WWF...

Id say the Mayo lads are just blowing off steam and taking the opportunity to say and write these type of articles etc as they have beaten Dublin, finally, Dublin have inflicted a lot of hurt on Mayo people (and players :) )over the years.

Dublin are no angels we all know that, Us Dublin fans know that, but they deliver all Irelands and gave the fans the best decade of their lives which probably wont be replicated for awhile.

Beating  Dublin counts for nothing though unless the AI is won, its not Kerry, its not Dublin, in 2012, to my knowledge Donegal were favorites, now Mayo are favorites to take it home and best of luck to them.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: shark on September 08, 2021, 09:32:18 AM
No dog in this fight. Watched, and enjoyed, all of the Mayo Dublin games as a neutral observer. The whinging here is pathetic. But nowhere close to that article in Mayo News, which is like something I'd expect from an eight year old in the playground. All of the top teams are well able to give it, and take it.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: Rossfan on September 09, 2021, 11:39:04 AM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/no-punishment-for-john-small-over-mclaughlin-challenge-but-james-mccarthy-hit-with-ban-for-oconnor-incident-40832011.html
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: TheGreatest on September 09, 2021, 12:17:52 PM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/no-punishment-for-john-small-over-mclaughlin-challenge-but-james-mccarthy-hit-with-ban-for-oconnor-incident-40832011.html

Not sure why John Small even mentioned here, did nothing wrong...

Yeah yeah yeah..
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on September 11, 2021, 01:36:45 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.

I have no problem with Dublin or how they play the game

I have a problem with the match officials not doing their jobs

Realistically the last day-he missed 4 red cards for Dublin and one for Mayo

(1 for McCarthy, 2 for John Small and one for Paddy Small. DOC could have gotten a red for a very high challenge near the end. Dublin yellow for the pull back was a yellow, but  a few years ago Keegan was given a lack for exactly the same foul)

I remember the dubs and mayo 2019 I think. Matthew Ruane punched O'Callaghan  in stomach, Kevin McLoughlin stood  on Neil Scully and O'connor got his customary high tackle and got the line. It bit rich coming from mayo. One of the most cynical outfits  and get away with 9/10 times. Yet to see referee pull them up on constantly standing over opposition taking quick frees. Kevin McLoughlin King of this.



We could go on and on

Johnny Coopers leg break attempt on DOC

Tom Parsons getting 7 stitches after an otb incident with “the Saint”

Mayo player getting a broker nose in an other OTB incident with “the Saint”

Colm Boyle getting 3 thumps in the face off “the Saint” after winning the penalty during the drawn semi final game

MDMA clothes lining COC and then body slamming him to the ground


But back to the Liam McNally article you accused me of writing-more than one neutral observer of that game claim that the referee missed at least 3 if not 4 straight reds for the Dubs

Your not wrong.  I just wondering  did Mcnally write articles on Mayo cynical play?
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: whitey on September 11, 2021, 02:15:38 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.

I have no problem with Dublin or how they play the game

I have a problem with the match officials not doing their jobs

Realistically the last day-he missed 4 red cards for Dublin and one for Mayo

(1 for McCarthy, 2 for John Small and one for Paddy Small. DOC could have gotten a red for a very high challenge near the end. Dublin yellow for the pull back was a yellow, but  a few years ago Keegan was given a lack for exactly the same foul)

I remember the dubs and mayo 2019 I think. Matthew Ruane punched O'Callaghan  in stomach, Kevin McLoughlin stood  on Neil Scully and O'connor got his customary high tackle and got the line. It bit rich coming from mayo. One of the most cynical outfits  and get away with 9/10 times. Yet to see referee pull them up on constantly standing over opposition taking quick frees. Kevin McLoughlin King of this.



We could go on and on

Johnny Coopers leg break attempt on DOC

Tom Parsons getting 7 stitches after an otb incident with “the Saint”

Mayo player getting a broker nose in an other OTB incident with “the Saint”

Colm Boyle getting 3 thumps in the face off “the Saint” after winning the penalty during the drawn semi final game

MDMA clothes lining COC and then body slamming him to the ground


But back to the Liam McNally article you accused me of writing-more than one neutral observer of that game claim that the referee missed at least 3 if not 4 straight reds for the Dubs

Your not wrong.  I just wondering  did Mcnally write articles on Mayo cynical play?

Probably not

His article is a bunch of manure

My contention is that if you play on the edge be prepared to accept the consequences.

The ref (according to several neutral observers) bottled 4 red cards for Dublin during the semifinal
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on September 11, 2021, 02:36:18 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.

I have no problem with Dublin or how they play the game

I have a problem with the match officials not doing their jobs

Realistically the last day-he missed 4 red cards for Dublin and one for Mayo

(1 for McCarthy, 2 for John Small and one for Paddy Small. DOC could have gotten a red for a very high challenge near the end. Dublin yellow for the pull back was a yellow, but  a few years ago Keegan was given a lack for exactly the same foul)

I remember the dubs and mayo 2019 I think. Matthew Ruane punched O'Callaghan  in stomach, Kevin McLoughlin stood  on Neil Scully and O'connor got his customary high tackle and got the line. It bit rich coming from mayo. One of the most cynical outfits  and get away with 9/10 times. Yet to see referee pull them up on constantly standing over opposition taking quick frees. Kevin McLoughlin King of this.



We could go on and on

Johnny Coopers leg break attempt on DOC

Tom Parsons getting 7 stitches after an otb incident with “the Saint”

Mayo player getting a broker nose in an other OTB incident with “the Saint”

Colm Boyle getting 3 thumps in the face off “the Saint” after winning the penalty during the drawn semi final game

MDMA clothes lining COC and then body slamming him to the ground


But back to the Liam McNally article you accused me of writing-more than one neutral observer of that game claim that the referee missed at least 3 if not 4 straight reds for the Dubs

Your not wrong.  I just wondering  did Mcnally write articles on Mayo cynical play?

Probably not

His article is a bunch of manure

My contention is that if you play on the edge be prepared to accept the consequences.

The ref (according to several neutral observers) bottled 4 red cards for Dublin during the semifinal

Listen I be be worrying about the referee tonight.  Enjoy the celebrations tonight 👌
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: hoynevalley on September 11, 2021, 04:42:17 PM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.

I have no problem with Dublin or how they play the game

I have a problem with the match officials not doing their jobs

Realistically the last day-he missed 4 red cards for Dublin and one for Mayo

(1 for McCarthy, 2 for John Small and one for Paddy Small. DOC could have gotten a red for a very high challenge near the end. Dublin yellow for the pull back was a yellow, but  a few years ago Keegan was given a lack for exactly the same foul)

Con O'Callaghan should got black on Keegan. Byrne on McLoughlin pulled the jersey and McLoughlin dived to ground . That is not black card.
Title: Re: Mayo v Dublin: AISF21 (Saturday 14th August)
Post by: dublin7 on September 12, 2021, 12:55:50 AM
https://www.mayonews.ie/comment-opinion/de-facto/37273-mayo-dismantling-appalling-gaa-structures

I think whitey wrote this.

I have no problem with Dublin or how they play the game

I have a problem with the match officials not doing their jobs

Realistically the last day-he missed 4 red cards for Dublin and one for Mayo

(1 for McCarthy, 2 for John Small and one for Paddy Small. DOC could have gotten a red for a very high challenge near the end. Dublin yellow for the pull back was a yellow, but  a few years ago Keegan was given a lack for exactly the same foul)

Con O'Callaghan should got black on Keegan. Byrne on McLoughlin pulled the jersey and McLoughlin dived to ground . That is not black card.
Does it really matter? Mayo got the benefit of a dodgy referee, but against Tyrone they got found out. Without a top quality forward they'll won f**k all even with help from the officials