Sam Maguire permutations

[fearbrags]

Are Meath out of the race for Sam ?

Yes, first time ever. It's a sad state of affairs for Meath football.

First time ever is a bit of a confused statement. As this is only year two of this experiment.

I don't think it is confusing.It's the first time in their history that they can't compete for Sam as they are in a B/Intermediate competition.

Well they were competing for ""Sam""  Today but lost 

[blanketattack]

All the years up until 1928, Meath didn't compete for Sam either.

[westbound]

Are Meath out of the race for Sam ?

Yes, first time ever. It's a sad state of affairs for Meath football.

did you forget about every year pre 2001 that they lost a leinster championship match?

[sam03/05]

what date do they make the draw?

May 2nd I believe.

Sound , thats decent , gives time for everyone to prep and supporters time to make plans .

How could they do draw May 2nd - most of the winners and losers of provincials won't have been decided

[An Fhairche Abu]

what date do they make the draw?

May 2nd I believe.

Sound , thats decent , gives time for everyone to prep and supporters time to make plans .

How could they do draw May 2nd - most of the winners and losers of provincials won't have been decided

This is the GAA, don't expect it to make sense. I didn't believe it when I first heard it either but here we are.

[orchardarmy02]

the provincial finalists will have been decided so it could take place

[square_ball]

Makes perfect sense to do the draw as soon as they possibly can.

Pot 1 - Ulster/Leinster/Munster/Connacht Winners
Pot 2 - Ulster/Leinster/Munster/Connacht Runners Up
Pot 3&4 teams will be confirmed by then as well

Failing to see what the issue is. Good call by the GAA to do the draw on 2nd May. It will give teams an idea of who they are facing and can prepare accordingly from there.

[seafoid]

There isn't any coherence to the groups, apart from group 2 being poor
It shouldn't matter when a team got beaten. Tyrone and Mayo were both beaten by D1 teams.

[armaghniac]

Makes perfect sense to do the draw as soon as they possibly can.

Pot 1 - Ulster/Leinster/Munster/Connacht Winners
Pot 2 - Ulster/Leinster/Munster/Connacht Runners Up
Pot 3&4 teams will be confirmed by then as well

Failing to see what the issue is. Good call by the GAA to do the draw on 2nd May. It will give teams an idea of who they are facing and can prepare accordingly from there.

Also they should indicate the dates of the games once the teams are known, e.g. Saturday/Sunday and which weekend. This would facilitate teams, fans, and things like club game scheduling in the counties.

[Redhand Santa]

The Munster and Connaught finalists will be involved in matches the first weekend (20th/21st May). The Leinster/Ulster finalists will be involved in games the second weekend.

[square_ball]

From my reading of it Kildare and Cork are in danger of dropping out if both Offaly and Down win their semi finals. Kildare will drop out if either Down or Offaly win their semi final. Of course in saying all that Kildare could guarantee their place by beating the Dubs. . .

Edit: I see that has already been pointed out by inroundthesquare on the previous page.

[sam03/05]

Makes sense to do the draw next week
As teams have to organise logistics, hotels etc as two of the games involve travel

[Bord na Mona man]

The architects of the Tailteann Cup probably didn't envisage that so quickly it could potentially have Cork, Meath and Kildare in it.
These are counties that the number crunchers want to see going well because they put bums on seats and are good revenue streams.

[weareros]

Makes perfect sense to do the draw as soon as they possibly can.

Pot 1 - Ulster/Leinster/Munster/Connacht Winners
Pot 2 - Ulster/Leinster/Munster/Connacht Runners Up
Pot 3&4 teams will be confirmed by then as well

Failing to see what the issue is. Good call by the GAA to do the draw on 2nd May. It will give teams an idea of who they are facing and can prepare accordingly from there.

Yes, even if teams are not known, the structure ensures the draw can be made as pot 1/2 are provincial finalists, and 3/4 are based on 7 best league seedlings apart from Westmeath. So a group could be. It's an open draw so that's no issue with teams meeting again apart from provincial finalists.

Sample group:
Provincial winner
Different province Provincial runner up
No 1 ranked league team
No 5 ranked league team

[blanketattack]

The architects of the Tailteann Cup probably didn't envisage that so quickly it could potentially have Cork, Meath and Kildare in it.
These are counties that the number crunchers want to see going well because they put bums on seats and are good revenue streams.

Cork footballers putting bums on seats?
That barely happens at the best of times, unless you mean there's some scheme with free tickets for tramps.