East wall #Irelandisfull

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tonto1888

Quote from: weareros on December 19, 2023, 02:13:09 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 19, 2023, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: weareros on December 19, 2023, 11:50:51 AMI'm all for supporting refugees but some right scumbags from other countries have been let in unmonitored. This lad is still living openly in Ballagh - a town that has done more than any other town in Ireland to support refugees.

https://www.galwaybeo.ie/news/ireland-news/convicted-rape-gang-leader-roamed-6190565.amp

He's not a Refugee though, he's from another EU Country.
I know. It's the lack of monitoring of an individual like this by the authorities I had an issue with. Proud of my hometown for their welcoming of Syrian refugees. It's the right thing to do and I hope we as a country will give shelter to poor Palestinian refugeees too.

did he come over from the UK?

weareros

Quote from: tonto1888 on December 19, 2023, 02:56:29 PM
Quote from: weareros on December 19, 2023, 02:13:09 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 19, 2023, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: weareros on December 19, 2023, 11:50:51 AMI'm all for supporting refugees but some right scumbags from other countries have been let in unmonitored. This lad is still living openly in Ballagh - a town that has done more than any other town in Ireland to support refugees.

https://www.galwaybeo.ie/news/ireland-news/convicted-rape-gang-leader-roamed-6190565.amp

He's not a Refugee though, he's from another EU Country.
I know. It's the lack of monitoring of an individual like this by the authorities I had an issue with. Proud of my hometown for their welcoming of Syrian refugees. It's the right thing to do and I hope we as a country will give shelter to poor Palestinian refugeees too.

did he come over from the UK?

Don't know. But the UK judge asked that they not be let back to Britain once they served their sentences.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/praise-for-police-as-judge-jails-slovakian-rape-gang-1871754

whitey

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2023, 02:14:40 PM
Quote from: weareros on December 19, 2023, 02:13:09 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 19, 2023, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: weareros on December 19, 2023, 11:50:51 AMI'm all for supporting refugees but some right scumbags from other countries have been let in unmonitored. This lad is still living openly in Ballagh - a town that has done more than any other town in Ireland to support refugees.

https://www.galwaybeo.ie/news/ireland-news/convicted-rape-gang-leader-roamed-6190565.amp

He's not a Refugee though, he's from another EU Country.
I know. It's the lack of monitoring of an individual like this by the authorities I had an issue with. Proud of my hometown for their welcoming of Syrian refugees. It's the right thing to do and I hope we as a country will give shelter to poor Palestinian refugeees too.

Will we turn on the Palestinian refugees if they get into trouble? Or just that individual?

If rigorous vetting occurs in advance of their arrival, the likelihood of hardened criminals entering the country is greatly reduced

It not like regular decent law abiding people turn into criminals once they are granted asylum in their host country

trailer

Quote from: whitey on December 19, 2023, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2023, 02:14:40 PM
Quote from: weareros on December 19, 2023, 02:13:09 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 19, 2023, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: weareros on December 19, 2023, 11:50:51 AMI'm all for supporting refugees but some right scumbags from other countries have been let in unmonitored. This lad is still living openly in Ballagh - a town that has done more than any other town in Ireland to support refugees.

https://www.galwaybeo.ie/news/ireland-news/convicted-rape-gang-leader-roamed-6190565.amp

He's not a Refugee though, he's from another EU Country.
I know. It's the lack of monitoring of an individual like this by the authorities I had an issue with. Proud of my hometown for their welcoming of Syrian refugees. It's the right thing to do and I hope we as a country will give shelter to poor Palestinian refugeees too.

Will we turn on the Palestinian refugees if they get into trouble? Or just that individual?

If rigorous vetting occurs in advance of their arrival, the likelihood of hardened criminals entering the country is greatly reduced

It not like regular decent law abiding people turn into criminals once they are granted asylum in their host country


Plenty of Irish criminals in America.

whitey

Quote from: trailer on December 19, 2023, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 19, 2023, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2023, 02:14:40 PM
Quote from: weareros on December 19, 2023, 02:13:09 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 19, 2023, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: weareros on December 19, 2023, 11:50:51 AMI'm all for supporting refugees but some right scumbags from other countries have been let in unmonitored. This lad is still living openly in Ballagh - a town that has done more than any other town in Ireland to support refugees.

https://www.galwaybeo.ie/news/ireland-news/convicted-rape-gang-leader-roamed-6190565.amp

He's not a Refugee though, he's from another EU Country.
I know. It's the lack of monitoring of an individual like this by the authorities I had an issue with. Proud of my hometown for their welcoming of Syrian refugees. It's the right thing to do and I hope we as a country will give shelter to poor Palestinian refugeees too.

Will we turn on the Palestinian refugees if they get into trouble? Or just that individual?

If rigorous vetting occurs in advance of their arrival, the likelihood of hardened criminals entering the country is greatly reduced

It not like regular decent law abiding people turn into criminals once they are granted asylum in their host country


Plenty of Irish criminals in America.

Yes-and they're almost immediately deported if caught


And they are not fed and housed at the taxpayers expanse either

Rossfan

How in the name of fcuk can someone be "vetted in advance" if
1 They live in the CTA and can come here on the spur of the moment
2 Ditto for EU
3 They turn up unannounced and ask for International Protection.

As for the US deporting Irish criminals...
How many Irish illegal aliens are flouting the law in the US?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

whitey

Quote from: Rossfan on December 19, 2023, 06:42:19 PMHow in the name of fcuk can someone be "vetted in advance" if
1 They live in the CTA and can come here on the spur of the moment
2 Ditto for EU
3 They turn up unannounced and ask for International Protection.

As for the US deporting Irish criminals...
How many Irish illegal aliens are flouting the law in the US?

It can be done....there just isn't a will to do it in order to appease the open borders crowd

FFS there was some shower up in arms when the Guards started actually enforcing the law at Dublin Airport

https://www.newstalk.com/news/migrant-charity-voices-fears-over-garda-passport-checks-at-plane-steps-1435085

For CTA residents if you are establishing residency (as opposed to visiting for a weekend) do you  not need a PPS Number? If they aren't doing a background check at that stage.....we'll then they should

If the same people are given housing benefit-should they not be vetted?

Would you want someone living next to you like that Slovakian from Ballaghadereen?

There's no solution that will catch every undesirable, but there seems to be little to no effort being made to weed out the bad ones

Funny how the number seeking International Protection fell off a Cliff when the Guards actually enforced EXISTING LAWS.




whitey


Itchy

Seems on Twitter we can see a lot of cosying up between the Irish far right (the ones turning up everywhere at protests, whether they be at hotels or at libraries) with British far right like little Tommy Robinson and indeed loyalists from the 6 counties. So just so you know who you are in bed with if you are off that persuasion.

Itchy

And would it surprise anyone to read this about the Fianna Fail councillor who's down in galway playing up to the racists burning hotels...

https://www.ontheditch.com/council-says-it-wont-act/

Milltown Row2

Quote from: whitey on December 19, 2023, 07:24:57 PMhttps://news.sky.com/story/amp/is-immigration-to-ireland-out-of-control-many-in-the-land-of-a-hundred-thousand-welcomes-are-worried-13025649




Hey Rossfan-read what this Syrian from Ballyhaunis has to say

I suppose he's a right wing extremist

"These problems are the inability of the government to provide housing, community infrastructure, services - particularly a fair and efficient health service to every person living in this country.

"So if every asylum seeker left this country tomorrow, we'd still have those problems.

"It's the policy vacuum that's the fundamental cause of the tensions that we've seen in the past few weeks."

Good post, thanks for highlighting where the problem lies. The government lol
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

tonto1888

Quote from: whitey on December 19, 2023, 07:07:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 19, 2023, 06:42:19 PMHow in the name of fcuk can someone be "vetted in advance" if
1 They live in the CTA and can come here on the spur of the moment
2 Ditto for EU
3 They turn up unannounced and ask for International Protection.

As for the US deporting Irish criminals...
How many Irish illegal aliens are flouting the law in the US?

It can be done....there just isn't a will to do it in order to appease the open borders crowd

FFS there was some shower up in arms when the Guards started actually enforcing the law at Dublin Airport

https://www.newstalk.com/news/migrant-charity-voices-fears-over-garda-passport-checks-at-plane-steps-1435085

For CTA residents if you are establishing residency (as opposed to visiting for a weekend) do you  not need a PPS Number? If they aren't doing a background check at that stage.....we'll then they should

If the same people are given housing benefit-should they not be vetted?

Would you want someone living next to you like that Slovakian from Ballaghadereen?

There's no solution that will catch every undesirable, but there seems to be little to no effort being made to weed out the bad ones

Funny how the number seeking International Protection fell off a Cliff when the Guards actually enforced EXISTING LAWS.





What law were the guards enforcing?

whitey

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2023, 09:27:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 19, 2023, 07:24:57 PMhttps://news.sky.com/story/amp/is-immigration-to-ireland-out-of-control-many-in-the-land-of-a-hundred-thousand-welcomes-are-worried-13025649




Hey Rossfan-read what this Syrian from Ballyhaunis has to say

I suppose he's a right wing extremist

"These problems are the inability of the government to provide housing, community infrastructure, services - particularly a fair and efficient health service to every person living in this country.

"So if every asylum seeker left this country tomorrow, we'd still have those problems.

"It's the policy vacuum that's the fundamental cause of the tensions that we've seen in the past few weeks."

Good post, thanks for highlighting where the problem lies. The government lol

You must have skipped over this part

This is coming from a Syrian living in Ireland

But even here, the recent surge in immigration to Ireland hasn't gone unnoticed, and Mr Cherbatji is open to voicing concerns.

"In the last two or three years, it seems to be out of control, the level of immigration," he says.

"There are no strict controls like there were before. I don't know what's changed regarding the government side of it.

"Look, immigration is okay, but as long as it's controlled, as long as there is Garda [police] vetting behind it.

"We don't want people who have dangerous backgrounds, or some sort of different backgrounds, landing as your next-door neighbour."


Milltown Row2

Quote from: whitey on December 19, 2023, 10:28:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2023, 09:27:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 19, 2023, 07:24:57 PMhttps://news.sky.com/story/amp/is-immigration-to-ireland-out-of-control-many-in-the-land-of-a-hundred-thousand-welcomes-are-worried-13025649




Hey Rossfan-read what this Syrian from Ballyhaunis has to say

I suppose he's a right wing extremist

"These problems are the inability of the government to provide housing, community infrastructure, services - particularly a fair and efficient health service to every person living in this country.

"So if every asylum seeker left this country tomorrow, we'd still have those problems.

"It's the policy vacuum that's the fundamental cause of the tensions that we've seen in the past few weeks."

Good post, thanks for highlighting where the problem lies. The government lol

You must have skipped over this part

This is coming from a Syrian living in Ireland

But even here, the recent surge in immigration to Ireland hasn't gone unnoticed, and Mr Cherbatji is open to voicing concerns.

"In the last two or three years, it seems to be out of control, the level of immigration," he says.

"There are no strict controls like there were before. I don't know what's changed regarding the government side of it.

"Look, immigration is okay, but as long as it's controlled, as long as there is Garda [police] vetting behind it.

"We don't want people who have dangerous backgrounds, or some sort of different backgrounds, landing as your next-door neighbour."



Read it, someone who was afforded refugee status doesn't want anyone else here..

If only the Americans did checks on ignorant grunts, we'd end up with you still living here.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Eire90

Cllr William O'Leary is the latest member of the Fianna Fáil party to speak against refugees. He told the bigots in Fermoy last night that it's 'state sponsored' re housing IPA's & those who benefit off it are 'no better than the English landlords & as bad as drug cartels'.