Connacht Senior Football Championship 2021

Started by Cunny Funt, June 18, 2021, 12:01:15 AM

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caprea

Quote from: Nanderson on July 11, 2021, 06:13:33 PM
Quote from: caprea on July 11, 2021, 06:04:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2021, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2021, 03:40:38 PM
Expected mismatch Mayo 5-20 Leitrim 0-11
And some floorts think this is the best system ::)

It's not clear it isn't. An open national draw will still produce uncompetitive  hidings.

A senior, intermediate and junior championship could kill interest among players in weaker counties as they never again will get the chance to test themselves against the best players.

Eventually the Intercounty system will be abandoned.
See result today for why we shouldnt have the weakest teams playing the strongest counties just to test themselves. Nobody wins

That would mean last years munster final result could never happen. It would hurt weaker countries not help.

My main point is that Intercounty has run its course. Kerry and Dublin won Intercounty football historically and they are still the two with the only realistic hopes of winning Sam for this year and next.

Rossfan

I don't think the Leitrim and Sligo lads were too interested in  testing themselves when the draw was made.
Their thoughts turned to 2022 immediately.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Cunny Funt

Whatever about other weaker teams testing themselves against better teams Leitrim was in no position to do it. They had rotten form in Div 4, no win and conceded 22 points per game. The comments by Hyland before the game more or less confimed they did little preparation for league or championship year.

Mayo on the other hand are flying fit and in the terms of strength and conditioning they look ready to give Dublin another rattle providing they beat Galway first.

Rossfan

When is that special Congrss? October presumably?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Eire90

Quote from: caprea on July 11, 2021, 06:04:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2021, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2021, 03:40:38 PM
Expected mismatch Mayo 5-20 Leitrim 0-11
And some floorts think this is the best system ::)

It's not clear it isn't. An open national draw will still produce uncompetitive  hidings.

A senior, intermediate and junior championship could kill interest among players in weaker counties as they never again will get the chance to test themselves against the best players.

Eventually the Intercounty system will be abandoned.


That is true but with an open national draw they might get to a quarter final with luck of the draw but will probably get a hammering then

Eire90

If intercounty was abolished would that kill of the GAA as most casuals only follow counties .Personally i am looking forward to club championships hopefully rte and tg4 show a lot of games.

caprea

Quote from: Eire90 on July 11, 2021, 07:00:37 PM
If intercounty was abolished would that kill of the GAA as most casuals only follow counties .Personally i am looking forward to club championships hopefully rte and tg4 show a lot of games.

A lot of casuals are there for the pints and the day out and a bit of excitement.

twohands!!!

19 teams gone from the championship after today.

All 7 Division 4 teams.
All 8 Division 3 teams.
3 Division 2 teams - 2 of these were losses to Division 1 teams and the other loss was to a Division 2 team.
1 Division 1 team - lost to another Division 1 team.

Even after today's 1 pointer, the average winning margin was 12 points. The mean winning margin was 11 points.

I was looking at the results of the McDonagh Cup and the difference when teams are playing against opposition of a similar level is stark.
One of the groups in the Joe McDonagh ended up with 3 teams all on 2 points, then Down and Kerry were level on scoring difference of +2 and on their total scored over 2 games (both on 54 points) Kerry will play in the final because they scored 3 goals to Down's 2. In the other group Westmeath won 2 games, Carlow one and Kildare lost both. Carlow's win over Kildare was only after extra-time and Westmeath's win over Kildare was only by a point. Average winning margin 4.5 points ; mean winning margin 4.5 points [this is based on the result after extra time in the drawn game]

Rudi

Hows about 11 teams at senior level, 11 at intermediate, 10 at junior. Each team plays each other once. Top team plays 4th team in All Ireland semi, 2 plays 3. 2 promoted, 2 relegated. Bit like inter county club scene. Scrap provincial series, fbd etc. More time for clubs league, championship too.
A team like Leitrim could possibly win the Junior championship, Down or Derry win the Intermediate & use this as a springboard to move up the ranks. A ban on collective inter county training for a 6 month time frame.

lenny

Quote from: Rudi on July 11, 2021, 08:42:24 PM
Hows about 11 teams at senior level, 11 at intermediate, 10 at junior. Each team plays each other once. Top team plays 4th team in All Ireland semi, 2 plays 3. 2 promoted, 2 relegated. Bit like inter county club scene. Scrap provincial series, fbd etc. More time for clubs league, championship too.
A team like Leitrim could possibly win the Junior championship, Down or Derry win the Intermediate & use this as a springboard to move up the ranks. A ban on collective inter county training for a 6 month time frame.

I've said that on here a few times. It's perfect at club level. No reason it wouldn't work well at county.

the goal was on

Bans on collective training a non runner as they only help create a bigger gap. Some counties will get to breach it, and others won't be allowed by there county boards. Look at Derry training collectively right through covid since October compared to some
Others that didn't start training until April . Big part of Derry's success this year

Rudi

Quote from: the goal was on on July 11, 2021, 10:01:16 PM
Bans on collective training a non runner as they only help create a bigger gap. Some counties will get to breach it, and others won't be allowed by there county boards. Look at Derry training collectively right through covid since October compared to some
Others that didn't start training until April . Big part of Derry's success this year

Serious financial fine or outright year ban would fix that. The Gaa are incredibly lenient in that regard. Derry looked well coached & intensity levels were impressive today, could very well be down to what you have said.

Wildweasel74


Rossfan

Quote from: Rudi on July 11, 2021, 08:42:24 PM
Hows about 11 teams at senior level, 11 at intermediate, 10 at junior. Each team plays each other once. Top team plays 4th team in All Ireland semi, 2 plays 3. 2 promoted, 2 relegated. Bit like inter county club scene. Scrap provincial series, fbd etc. More time for clubs league, championship too.
A team like Leitrim could possibly win the Junior championship, Down or Derry win the Intermediate & use this as a springboard to move up the ranks. A ban on collective inter county training for a 6 month time frame.
You were going well there till the last sentence ;D
Seeing as a scatter of Counties allegedly broke a training ban during a pandemic no hope of them complying with a ban.
And sure if they're found out the manager might get suspended.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Eire90

Quote from: Rudi on July 11, 2021, 08:42:24 PM
Hows about 11 teams at senior level, 11 at intermediate, 10 at junior. Each team plays each other once. Top team plays 4th team in All Ireland semi, 2 plays 3. 2 promoted, 2 relegated. Bit like inter county club scene. Scrap provincial series, fbd etc. More time for clubs league, championship too.
A team like Leitrim could possibly win the Junior championship, Down or Derry win the Intermediate & use this as a springboard to move up the ranks. A ban on collective inter county training for a 6 month time frame.

I would go with top 6 teams into playoff top 2 bye into semis