Flat Track Bullies

[APM]

Cahir O'Kane called it right in the Irish News a few months back. Great team for hammering weaker counties out the gate! Will beat teams that similar in standard to them (Donegal, Monaghan etc).  But they haven't beaten Kerry, Dublin or Mayo in the Championship for 10 years. 

[Owen Brannigan]

Cahir O'Kane called it right in the Irish News a few months back. Great team for hammering weaker counties out the gate! Will beat teams that similar in standard to them (Donegal, Monaghan etc).  But they haven't beaten Kerry, Dublin or Mayo in the Championship for 10 years.

Who?

[Cunny Funt]

Redhand88 locking the Tyrone v Kerry match day thread is poor form.

[APM]

Cahir O'Kane called it right in the Irish News a few months back. Great team for hammering weaker counties out the gate! Will beat teams that similar in standard to them (Donegal, Monaghan etc).  But they haven't beaten Kerry, Dublin or Mayo in the Championship for 10 years.

Who?

Journalist in the Irish News - anyway, apologies for the separate thread, but the other one was locked.

[Hound]

Redhand88 locking the Tyrone v Kerry match day thread is poor form.

And then he denied it 😁🙄

[yellowcard]

Will Harte resign, surely his time is up?

He has been a great manager but it must be time for somebody else to get a chance. The Tyrone support seemed very muted at the game today even when they were ahead, there was more noise from the Kerry supporters and that is saying something as they rarely travel in numbers unless they are in an AI final.

[t_mac]

Redhand88 locking the Tyrone v Kerry match day thread is poor form.

And then he denied it 😁🙄

Pathetic stuff.

[greatpoint]

Cahir O'Kane called it right in the Irish News a few months back. Great team for hammering weaker counties out the gate! Will beat teams that similar in standard to them (Donegal, Monaghan etc).  But they haven't beaten Kerry, Dublin or Mayo in the Championship for 10 years.

Donegal beat Tyrone well this year and should have seen the game out last year from the position they were in. But Tyrone's issue seems to be Croke Park.

[Angelo]

Will Harte resign, surely his time is up?

He has been a great manager but it must be time for somebody else to get a chance. The Tyrone support seemed very muted at the game today even when they were ahead, there was more noise from the Kerry supporters and that is saying something as they rarely travel in numbers unless they are in an AI final.

This is the thing I don't get?

Will a new man bring us any further? I don't think so, I don't think today was lost on the line, a combination of scandalous refereeing and a mental implosion from Tyrone lost us the game. Mayo have changed manager three times in the past 6 seasons, has it brought them any closer? Realistically speaking Dublin look very likely to win the next two or three with little heat, maybe by that time a young Kerry side will be reaching their peak but I can't really see anyone beat them now.

Is it just change for the sake of change with Tyrone that you're advocating Harte to go?

[tonto1888]

Will Harte resign, surely his time is up?

He has been a great manager but it must be time for somebody else to get a chance. The Tyrone support seemed very muted at the game today even when they were ahead, there was more noise from the Kerry supporters and that is saying something as they rarely travel in numbers unless they are in an AI final.

This is the thing I don't get?

Will a new man bring us any further? I don't think so, I don't think today was lost on the line, a combination of scandalous refereeing and a mental implosion from Tyrone lost us the game. Mayo have changed manager three times in the past 6 seasons, has it brought them any closer? Realistically speaking Dublin look very likely to win the next two or three with little heat, maybe by that time a young Kerry side will be reaching their peak but I can't really see anyone beat them now.

Is it just change for the sake of change with Tyrone that you're advocating Harte to go?

What decisions were scandalous

[Angelo]

Will Harte resign, surely his time is up?

He has been a great manager but it must be time for somebody else to get a chance. The Tyrone support seemed very muted at the game today even when they were ahead, there was more noise from the Kerry supporters and that is saying something as they rarely travel in numbers unless they are in an AI final.

This is the thing I don't get?

Will a new man bring us any further? I don't think so, I don't think today was lost on the line, a combination of scandalous refereeing and a mental implosion from Tyrone lost us the game. Mayo have changed manager three times in the past 6 seasons, has it brought them any closer? Realistically speaking Dublin look very likely to win the next two or three with little heat, maybe by that time a young Kerry side will be reaching their peak but I can't really see anyone beat them now.

Is it just change for the sake of change with Tyrone that you're advocating Harte to go?

What decisions were scandalous

The successive frees against Tyrone at the start of the half in the scoring area, the contrast to what was allowed against Tyrone in the second half. The calling up of play and booking of Sludden when Tyrone were in possession in a dangerous and Sludden had been pulled down and held down off the ball. Deegan booked him, gave a throw ball, Kerry won it and went down the pitch and got a nonsense free probably summed up his performance perfectly, not only was it one sided it was unashamed and not even subtle.

I'll have to see that game on TV but what he was letting go off the ball on Petey Harte, right in front of his eyes any time he made a run or a move without sanction to then awarding Kerry a number of frees 60 yards from play. He even blew against Donnelly for a free out to Kerry form something off the ball when Tyrone were on the attack.

I thought 2015 was bad with Deegan but he went all out to cap that today.

[tyrone08]

Will Harte resign, surely his time is up?

He has been a great manager but it must be time for somebody else to get a chance. The Tyrone support seemed very muted at the game today even when they were ahead, there was more noise from the Kerry supporters and that is saying something as they rarely travel in numbers unless they are in an AI final.

This is the thing I don't get?

Will a new man bring us any further? I don't think so, I don't think today was lost on the line, a combination of scandalous refereeing and a mental implosion from Tyrone lost us the game. Mayo have changed manager three times in the past 6 seasons, has it brought them any closer? Realistically speaking Dublin look very likely to win the next two or three with little heat, maybe by that time a young Kerry side will be reaching their peak but I can't really see anyone beat them now.

Is it just change for the sake of change with Tyrone that you're advocating Harte to go?

What decisions were scandalous

Seriously hope this is a joke. Anyway for the record the following-

The first 3 kerry frees in m 2nd half. Commentators were perplexed to as to what they were given for.

Kerry goal where he over carried it. Commentators again questioned.

Kerry free out where mcshane was challenged by 4 players. One of which jumped on mcshane back while he was picking the ball up

Shall I go on?

[tonto1888]

Will Harte resign, surely his time is up?

He has been a great manager but it must be time for somebody else to get a chance. The Tyrone support seemed very muted at the game today even when they were ahead, there was more noise from the Kerry supporters and that is saying something as they rarely travel in numbers unless they are in an AI final.

This is the thing I don't get?

Will a new man bring us any further? I don't think so, I don't think today was lost on the line, a combination of scandalous refereeing and a mental implosion from Tyrone lost us the game. Mayo have changed manager three times in the past 6 seasons, has it brought them any closer? Realistically speaking Dublin look very likely to win the next two or three with little heat, maybe by that time a young Kerry side will be reaching their peak but I can't really see anyone beat them now.

Is it just change for the sake of change with Tyrone that you're advocating Harte to go?

What decisions were scandalous

The successive frees against Tyrone at the start of the half in the scoring area, the contrast to what was allowed against Tyrone in the second half. The calling up of play and booking of Sludden when Tyrone were in possession in a dangerous and Sludden had been pulled down and held down off the ball. Deegan booked him, gave a throw ball, Kerry won it and went down the pitch and got a nonsense free probably summed up his performance perfectly, not only was it one sided it was unashamed and not even subtle.

I'll have to see that game on TV but what he was letting go off the ball on Petey Harte, right in front of his eyes any time he made a run or a move without sanction to then awarding Kerry a number of frees 60 yards from play. He even blew against Donnelly for a free out to Kerry form something off the ball when Tyrone were on the attack.

I thought 2015 was bad with Deegan but he went all out to cap that today.

The stuff against Harte was poor alright. The free you talk about against Donnelly was a free if I remember rightly. You're not complaining about the same thing but Tyrone getting a free, and I think scoring from in the same circumstances.
The talk off Deegan riding Tyrone, and his scandalous decisions, is way over the top

[Angelo]

Will Harte resign, surely his time is up?

He has been a great manager but it must be time for somebody else to get a chance. The Tyrone support seemed very muted at the game today even when they were ahead, there was more noise from the Kerry supporters and that is saying something as they rarely travel in numbers unless they are in an AI final.

This is the thing I don't get?

Will a new man bring us any further? I don't think so, I don't think today was lost on the line, a combination of scandalous refereeing and a mental implosion from Tyrone lost us the game. Mayo have changed manager three times in the past 6 seasons, has it brought them any closer? Realistically speaking Dublin look very likely to win the next two or three with little heat, maybe by that time a young Kerry side will be reaching their peak but I can't really see anyone beat them now.

Is it just change for the sake of change with Tyrone that you're advocating Harte to go?

What decisions were scandalous

The successive frees against Tyrone at the start of the half in the scoring area, the contrast to what was allowed against Tyrone in the second half. The calling up of play and booking of Sludden when Tyrone were in possession in a dangerous and Sludden had been pulled down and held down off the ball. Deegan booked him, gave a throw ball, Kerry won it and went down the pitch and got a nonsense free probably summed up his performance perfectly, not only was it one sided it was unashamed and not even subtle.

I'll have to see that game on TV but what he was letting go off the ball on Petey Harte, right in front of his eyes any time he made a run or a move without sanction to then awarding Kerry a number of frees 60 yards from play. He even blew against Donnelly for a free out to Kerry form something off the ball when Tyrone were on the attack.

I thought 2015 was bad with Deegan but he went all out to cap that today.

The stuff against Harte was poor alright. The free you talk about against Donnelly was a free if I remember rightly. You're not complaining about the same thing but Tyrone getting a free, and I think scoring from in the same circumstances.
The talk off Deegan riding Tyrone, and his scandalous decisions, is way over the top

Tyrone didn't get the same number of frees in the scoring range and I think at least three of the frees Tyrone got were from Kerry players touching the ball on the ground. When you consider the attention McShane and Donnelly got physically off the Kerry players without an award to the ridiculously soft frees Kerry got at the other end, it doesn't add up.

Kerry got so confident with it as the game came on they would just fling themselves at the ground, it was as bad a stitch up job as I've seen. We've had a few bad refs in recent years, most of them have been in games we've won. Of the games we've lost we might have had a decision or two to quibble about but they didn't fleece us. The last time we got fleeced was 4 years ago in an All Ireland semi final with Kerry by the same man in the middle today.

[tonto1888]

Will Harte resign, surely his time is up?

He has been a great manager but it must be time for somebody else to get a chance. The Tyrone support seemed very muted at the game today even when they were ahead, there was more noise from the Kerry supporters and that is saying something as they rarely travel in numbers unless they are in an AI final.

This is the thing I don't get?

Will a new man bring us any further? I don't think so, I don't think today was lost on the line, a combination of scandalous refereeing and a mental implosion from Tyrone lost us the game. Mayo have changed manager three times in the past 6 seasons, has it brought them any closer? Realistically speaking Dublin look very likely to win the next two or three with little heat, maybe by that time a young Kerry side will be reaching their peak but I can't really see anyone beat them now.

Is it just change for the sake of change with Tyrone that you're advocating Harte to go?

What decisions were scandalous

The successive frees against Tyrone at the start of the half in the scoring area, the contrast to what was allowed against Tyrone in the second half. The calling up of play and booking of Sludden when Tyrone were in possession in a dangerous and Sludden had been pulled down and held down off the ball. Deegan booked him, gave a throw ball, Kerry won it and went down the pitch and got a nonsense free probably summed up his performance perfectly, not only was it one sided it was unashamed and not even subtle.

I'll have to see that game on TV but what he was letting go off the ball on Petey Harte, right in front of his eyes any time he made a run or a move without sanction to then awarding Kerry a number of frees 60 yards from play. He even blew against Donnelly for a free out to Kerry form something off the ball when Tyrone were on the attack.

I thought 2015 was bad with Deegan but he went all out to cap that today.

The stuff against Harte was poor alright. The free you talk about against Donnelly was a free if I remember rightly. You're not complaining about the same thing but Tyrone getting a free, and I think scoring from in the same circumstances.
The talk off Deegan riding Tyrone, and his scandalous decisions, is way over the top

Tyrone didn't get the same number of frees in the scoring range and I think at least three of the frees Tyrone got were from Kerry players touching the ball on the ground. When you consider the attention McShane and Donnelly got physically off the Kerry players without an award to the ridiculously soft frees Kerry got at the other end, it doesn't add up.

Kerry got so confident with it as the game came on they would just fling themselves at the ground, it was as bad a stitch up job as I've seen. We've had a few bad refs in recent years, most of them have been in games we've won. Of the games we've lost we might have had a decision or two to quibble about but they didn't fleece us. The last time we got fleeced was 4 years ago in an All Ireland semi final with Kerry by the same man in the middle today.

In the first ten mins of the second half you got two frees, both of which were scored and neither for a hand on the ball in the ground. One was given from the other end of the field which you were complaining about Kerry getting