Gets underway in 8 days.
Mayo the defending champions and will be expected to retain the title, 10/11 outright odds suggests that too.
Galway, like Mayo last year really shouldn't have allowed themselves to drop to Div 2 and now might have a point to prove. Will draw encouragement that they only lost the Connacht final by 1 point in November and now will Likely be up against Mayo without Cillian O'Connor.
Roscommon have good recent record for winning Connacht titles after league relegation but the short time frame from the end of the league to the start of the championship will probably end any hopes of that happening again?
Leitrim, Sligo who will give Mayo the best game? Both Div 4 teams and neither was good enough to even push for promotion.
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Hard to disagree with any of that Cunny.
Hopefully the Ros v Galway game won't reflect League form but hard to see our lads improving sufficiently in 3 weeks.
The Laythrums will let the Rhubarbs know they were in a game but the inevitable end result.
Of course we'll be all rooting for Sligo in game 1 but that won't help them.
Mayo will be favourites to beat Sligo and Leitrim. That's maybe where the run might end though.
Ros and Galway are both going in slightly down in themselves it seems as both were relegated from Division 1 of the league. If Mayo do get to the Connacht final, then Ros or Galway will fancy their chances against a Mayo team whose defensive issues are very problematic and without Cillian O'Connor also who is a massive loss. They'll also have the advantage of playing the top teams all summer long as well.
Weirdly enough for me, I expect Mayo to beat Sligo and Leitrim. They're both Division 4 teams and the only win between them was for Sligo - against Leitrim. The gap should be too big. Apologies to the Sligo folk here but that's how I view it anyway.
P.S. Given the above worries I have for Mayo it probably won't be and it'll be heart in mouth stuff for us. :-\
Sligo and Leitrim have no chance, that's not disrespectful that's just the way of it. Mayo are the best team in the province, even without Cillian O'Connor they have the only proven set of players. Mayo mightn't have enough to get past Dublin alright especially with their chief scorer out, but they won't fear whoever comes through the other semi-final.
No idea where Galway will be after that Monaghan game, there has been nothing between Galway and Roscommon over the last 5 years in Connacht but if Galway don't win, we'll be looking at a new management team next year and that's not maybe. Hoping that Galway will show up big for the summer but it's a hope more than expectation unfortunately.
Agree with that. With Galway you just don't know what you're going to get. Our consistency of performance isn't there.
At least with Mayo ye know ye will perform to some extent - evidenced by 9 semi final appearances in the past 10 seasons.
If we manage to get past Roscommon (very close to call) realistically I would expect us to lose to Mayo in the final but it wouldn't be beyond the bounds of possibility either that we could sneak it on our day.
We would have absolutely no chance of downing Dublin in an AI semi final though.
If we lose to Ros - I don't see them beating Mayo in the final.
Don't think they're good enough to beat both ourselves and Mayo this year.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 21, 2021, 01:25:16 PM
Sligo and Leitrim have no chance, that's not disrespectful that's just the way of it. Mayo are the best team in the province, even without Cillian O'Connor they have the only proven set of players. Mayo mightn't have enough to get past Dublin alright especially with their chief scorer out, but they won't fear whoever comes through the other semi-final.
No idea where Galway will be after that Monaghan game, there has been nothing between Galway and Roscommon over the last 5 years in Connacht but if Galway don't win, we'll be looking at a new management team next year and that's not maybe. Hoping that Galway will show up big for the summer but it's a hope more than expectation unfortunately.
PJ got a three year term when ratified which would mean his term would include 2022.
Unless he walks, I think he will get one last year.
If his record as manager reads zero championship wins topped off with relegation from Division One on the evening of July 4th his position is untenable.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 21, 2021, 08:41:47 PM
If his record as manager reads zero championship wins topped off with relegation from Division One on the evening of July 4th his position is untenable.
Agreed.
11 years ago today we lost the mighty man himself.
R.I.P Dermot.
If I could misquote....
Most of all to play it fairly
To win or lose with equal grace
To play the game like Dermot Earley
Quote from: Rossfan on June 23, 2021, 03:07:30 PM
11 years ago today we lost the mighty man himself.
R.I.P Dermot.
If I could misquote....
Most of all to play it fairly
To win or lose with equal grace
To play the game like Dermot Earley
d'imigh uainn an buachaill beo
Togha fir b' ea é gan amhras ar bith
Mayo team named.
1. Rob Hennelly
2. Enda Hession
3. Oisín Mullen
4. Lee Keegan
5. Paddy Durcan
6. Michael Plunkett
7. Eoghan McLaughlin
8. Matthew Ruane
9. Conor Loftus
10. Kevin McLoughlin
11. Darren McHale
12. Bryan Walsh
13. Tommy Conroy
14. Aidan O'Shea (c)
15. Ryan O'Donoghue
I'd prefer Aidan O'Shea in midfield and Loftus in the forwards.
Sligo are 100 to 1 to win on the weekend! :-[
Quote from: MayoBuck on June 24, 2021, 01:47:49 PM
I'd prefer Aidan O'Shea in midfield and Loftus in the forwards.
I've a feeling that's what will happen on the day.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 24, 2021, 01:51:14 PM
Sligo are 100 to 1 to win on the weekend! :-[
Now all the other counties bar Dublin are Sligo
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Quote from: From the Bunker on June 24, 2021, 01:51:14 PM
Sligo are 100 to 1 to win on the weekend! :-[
Now all the other counties bar Dublin are Sligo
You need a cold shower with all your talk of the jackeens ♥️😂😂👀
If nothing else perhaps Kerry winning the All Ireland would spare us from tens of posts per day about Dublin
Quote from: MayoBuck on June 24, 2021, 01:47:49 PM
I'd prefer Aidan O'Shea in midfield and Loftus in the forwards.
I just prefer Aidan O Shea in midfield.
Quote from: galwayman on June 24, 2021, 05:43:23 PM
If nothing else perhaps Kerry winning the All Ireland would spare us from tens of posts per day about Dublin
Not expecting your own crowd to win it?
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Quote from: From the Bunker on June 24, 2021, 01:51:14 PM
Sligo are 100 to 1 to win on the weekend! :-[
And Mayo to win by 16 or more points is 11/10
Who will be Mayo free taker now that Cillian is gone? Ryan O'Donoghue?
Quote from: inroundthesquare on June 24, 2021, 08:09:30 PM
Who will be Mayo free taker now that Cillian is gone? Ryan O'Donoghue?
I thought they'd start Paul Towey and put him on the frees. Probably the best free taker they have on paper now - albeit he is a rookie.
Quote from: galwayman on June 24, 2021, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: inroundthesquare on June 24, 2021, 08:09:30 PM
Who will be Mayo free taker now that Cillian is gone? Ryan O'Donoghue?
I thought they'd start Paul Towey and put him on the frees. Probably the best free taker they have on paper now - albeit he is a rookie.
Unlikely the Mayo named 15 starts given Horan's history of team selection.
Quote from: galwayman on June 24, 2021, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: inroundthesquare on June 24, 2021, 08:09:30 PM
Who will be Mayo free taker now that Cillian is gone? Ryan O'Donoghue?
I thought they'd start Paul Towey and put him on the frees. Probably the best free taker they have on paper now - albeit he is a rookie.
Ryan O'Donoghue or Conor Loftus I'd say. Dont think Towey will be a starter this year.
Quote from: galwayman on June 24, 2021, 05:43:23 PM
If nothing else perhaps Kerry winning the All Ireland would spare us from tens of posts per day about Dublin
Tho if kerry win the all ireland people will think inter county football has been saved
Quote from: Eire90 on June 25, 2021, 10:31:22 AM
Quote from: galwayman on June 24, 2021, 05:43:23 PM
If nothing else perhaps Kerry winning the All Ireland would spare us from tens of posts per day about Dublin
Tho if kerry win the all ireland people will think inter county football has been saved
Happy to see Dublin win 10 in a row if it means there's changes.
Same here :-\
I cheer Dublin on every year. It pisses me off that Meath caught them on an off day in 2010. They would be now going for 17 in a row instead of a diluted 11.
Nearly two decades of a province left to turn into a wasteland.
Kerry winning an AI this year would put reform back another ten years, Just like Meath's blip did in Leinster in 2010.
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Quote from: galwayman on June 24, 2021, 05:43:23 PM
If nothing else perhaps Kerry winning the All Ireland would spare us from tens of posts per day about Dublin
Tho if kerry win the all ireland people will think inter county football has been saved
Happy to see Dublin win 10 in a row if it means there's changes.
tbf i think most of us would, kerry winning isnt going to help anyone who has the interest of gaelic games at heart
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2021, 03:16:49 PM
I cheer Dublin on every year. It pisses me off that Meath caught them on an off day in 2010. They would be now going for 17 in a row instead of a diluted 11.
Nearly two decades of a province left to turn into a wasteland.
Kerry winning an AI this year would put reform back another ten years, Just like Meath's blip did in Leinster in 2010.
You're very angry individual. You and the seafoid are turning every thread into Dublin this, Dublin that. Are you member of GAA club, get your club to put motion at county convention instead of hiding behind the keyboard and telling us you havent gone to a mayo game in xxx years and club will be blacklisted bull dung. At least John Connellan is walking the walk and his motions will see changes to funding.
Quote from: macker15 on June 25, 2021, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2021, 03:16:49 PM
I cheer Dublin on every year. It pisses me off that Meath caught them on an off day in 2010. They would be now going for 17 in a row instead of a diluted 11.
Nearly two decades of a province left to turn into a wasteland.
Kerry winning an AI this year would put reform back another ten years, Just like Meath's blip did in Leinster in 2010.
You're very angry individual. You and the seafoid are turning every thread into Dublin this, Dublin that. Are you member of GAA club, get your club to put motion at county convention instead of hiding behind the keyboard and telling us you havent gone to a mayo game in xxx years and club will be blacklisted bull dung. At least John Connellan is walking the walk and his motions will see changes to funding.
I am quite a happy individual. One can only be happy wanting Dublin to win. It's a win win (probably not enough wins in there) situation.
Dublin can have their All-Irelands, but they can't say they've Connacht medals. 8) Mayo should win today, but the true test awaits in the Connacht final.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 26, 2021, 10:24:43 AM
Dublin can have their All-Irelands, but they can't say they've Connacht medals. 8) Mayo should win today, but the true test awaits in the Connacht final.
Mayo don't have to many of them the last 6 years!
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 26, 2021, 10:24:43 AM
Dublin can have their All-Irelands, but they can't say they've Connacht medals. 8) Mayo should win today, but the true test awaits in the Connacht final.
Ah Farr.... ignoring the existence of Laythrum :o
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 26, 2021, 01:22:37 AM
Quote from: macker15 on June 25, 2021, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2021, 03:16:49 PM
I cheer Dublin on every year. It pisses me off that Meath caught them on an off day in 2010. They would be now going for 17 in a row instead of a diluted 11.
Nearly two decades of a province left to turn into a wasteland.
Kerry winning an AI this year would put reform back another ten years, Just like Meath's blip did in Leinster in 2010.
You're very angry individual. You and the seafoid are turning every thread into Dublin this, Dublin that. Are you member of GAA club, get your club to put motion at county convention instead of hiding behind the keyboard and telling us you havent gone to a mayo game in xxx years and club will be blacklisted bull dung. At least John Connellan is walking the walk and his motions will see changes to funding.
I am quite a happy individual. One can only be happy wanting Dublin to win. It's a win win (probably not enough wins in there) situation.
🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏
Is Paul Towey any relation to John O'Mahony wife?
Quote from: macker15 on June 25, 2021, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2021, 03:16:49 PM
I cheer Dublin on every year. It pisses me off that Meath caught them on an off day in 2010. They would be now going for 17 in a row instead of a diluted 11.
Nearly two decades of a province left to turn into a wasteland.
Kerry winning an AI this year would put reform back another ten years, Just like Meath's blip did in Leinster in 2010.
You're very angry individual. You and the seafoid are turning every thread into Dublin this, Dublin that. Are you member of GAA club, get your club to put motion at county convention instead of hiding behind the keyboard and telling us you havent gone to a mayo game in xxx years and club will be blacklisted bull dung. At least John Connellan is walking the walk and his motions will see changes to funding.
Btw, how did John Connellan's motion fare out? I presume it was debated as Congress.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 26, 2021, 02:33:55 PM
Quote from: macker15 on June 25, 2021, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2021, 03:16:49 PM
I cheer Dublin on every year. It pisses me off that Meath caught them on an off day in 2010. They would be now going for 17 in a row instead of a diluted 11.
Nearly two decades of a province left to turn into a wasteland.
Kerry winning an AI this year would put reform back another ten years, Just like Meath's blip did in Leinster in 2010.
You're very angry individual. You and the seafoid are turning every thread into Dublin this, Dublin that. Are you member of GAA club, get your club to put motion at county convention instead of hiding behind the keyboard and telling us you havent gone to a mayo game in xxx years and club will be blacklisted bull dung. At least John Connellan is walking the walk and his motions will see changes to funding.
Btw, how did John Connellan's motion fare out? I presume it was debated as Congress.
In motion for 2022.
Mayo should win 20-30 points. Would see many Sligo breaking the Sligo tackle. Mayo are serious conditioned side.
Game over. O Shea coasted through for a easy goal. He did serious damage a few years against Sligo at full forward, midfield today
No card for Aido's elbow to the head? Wow
Quote from: greatpoint on June 26, 2021, 04:49:01 PM
No card for Aido's elbow to the head? Wow
swatted that annoying little bollocks away very nicely
Quote from: greatpoint on June 26, 2021, 04:49:01 PM
No card for Aido's elbow to the head? Wow
Mayo lads have free reign for that stuff. If sligo done would be red card.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 26, 2021, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on June 26, 2021, 04:49:01 PM
No card for Aido's elbow to the head? Wow
swatted that annoying little bollocks away very nicely
You can hardly condone that behaviour? I know Cillian O'Connor is off the pitch so the elbow count would naturally suffer.
Quote from: greatpoint on June 26, 2021, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 26, 2021, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on June 26, 2021, 04:49:01 PM
No card for Aido's elbow to the head? Wow
swatted that annoying little bollocks away very nicely
You can hardly condone that behaviour? I know Cillian O'Connor is off the pitch so the elbow count would naturally suffer.
Sunday game panel will highlight it tomorrow night 🙄🙄
Half time Sligo 0-8 Mayo 3-13. Expected one sided contest, Could be 20 plus point winning margin but depends on the mood from Mayo 2nd half and if they will ease off or not. O'Donogue filling in on frees well.
Sligo 0-12 Mayo 3-23. The 20 point winning margin achieved, a contest that was as good as over after 15 mins.
Ruthless by Mayo. The laytrum or Galweigan boys will hardly bothered training. Just give the cup to the rhubarbs
Cillian at the game today
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Well done Mayo tonight. That was a comprehensive victory. Almost as impressive as Kerry's hammering of Clare.
I always thought that the Leinster championship was a joke based on posters opinions here. Turns out the Munster/Connacht championship is just as farcical
Quote from: dublin7 on June 26, 2021, 09:32:24 PM
Well done Mayo tonight. That was a comprehensive victory. Almost as impressive as Kerry's hammering of Clare.
I always thought that the Leinster championship was a joke based on posters opinions here. Turns out the Munster/Connacht championship is just as farcical
Today was the All-Ireland finalists hammering a Div 4 team that was hammered themselves in their shield final against Wexford.
Connacht winners the last 6 years. Mayo 2,Galway 2 and Roscommon 2.
Yep feckin Rhubarbs on a 1 in a row run or 1 out of last 5.
Puts Dublin's 15 out of 16/10 in a row in the halfpenny place.
Sligo have fallen some distance. Bar Murphy and Carrabine, they haven't a player that would get near the Mayo panel.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 26, 2021, 09:39:28 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 26, 2021, 09:32:24 PM
Well done Mayo tonight. That was a comprehensive victory. Almost as impressive as Kerry's hammering of Clare.
I always thought that the Leinster championship was a joke based on posters opinions here. Turns out the Munster/Connacht championship is just as farcical
Today was the All-Ireland finalists hammering a Div 4 team that was hammered themselves in their shield final against Wexford.
Connacht winners the last 6 years. Mayo 2,Galway 2 and Roscommon 2.
Exactly. It just shows how farcical the championship is when it's based on a provincial system.
Quote from: dublin7 on June 26, 2021, 09:44:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 26, 2021, 09:39:28 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 26, 2021, 09:32:24 PM
Well done Mayo tonight. That was a comprehensive victory. Almost as impressive as Kerry's hammering of Clare.
I always thought that the Leinster championship was a joke based on posters opinions here. Turns out the Munster/Connacht championship is just as farcical
Today was the All-Ireland finalists hammering a Div 4 team that was hammered themselves in their shield final against Wexford.
Connacht winners the last 6 years. Mayo 2,Galway 2 and Roscommon 2.
Exactly. It just shows how farcical the championship is when it's based on a provincial system.
Hammerings happens in all team sports systems.
A 5 five team provincial championship having the last 6 titles shared between 3 teams is far from a farcical.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 26, 2021, 10:03:16 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 26, 2021, 09:44:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 26, 2021, 09:39:28 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 26, 2021, 09:32:24 PM
Well done Mayo tonight. That was a comprehensive victory. Almost as impressive as Kerry's hammering of Clare.
I always thought that the Leinster championship was a joke based on posters opinions here. Turns out the Munster/Connacht championship is just as farcical
Today was the All-Ireland finalists hammering a Div 4 team that was hammered themselves in their shield final against Wexford.
Connacht winners the last 6 years. Mayo 2,Galway 2 and Roscommon 2.
Exactly. It just shows how farcical the championship is when it's based on a provincial system.
Hammerings happens in all team sports systems.
A 5 five team provincial championship having the last 6 titles shared between 3 teams is far from a farcical.
So what your saying is the likes of Leitrim/Sligo and London just have to suck it up as the winners each year might be different. I'm just glad it not a dubs fan suggesting that
They'd be slaughtered for such arrogance
Quote from: Itchy on June 26, 2021, 09:44:10 PM
Sligo have fallen some distance. Bar Murphy and Carrabine, they haven't a player that would get near the Mayo panel.
They have. I'm surprised that Peter Naughton didn't get more of a run being two footed and all but that's neither here nor there now.
It went as expected. Mayo impressed in the first half, it was over as a contest after Aidan got his first goal. While I didn't see it on TV, it appeared that Sligo were in poor fitness and struggled to come to terms with the movement of the Mayo team, whereas Mayo harried and hounded the Sligo players all through the game. Delighted for Darren McHale, he has been one of the top performers in the Mayo club scene for the last few years. He will face much sterner opposition while wearing the green and red though. Job done, move on to Leitrim.
Quote from: dublin7 on June 26, 2021, 10:32:10 PM
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Quote from: dublin7 on June 26, 2021, 09:44:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 26, 2021, 09:39:28 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 26, 2021, 09:32:24 PM
Well done Mayo tonight. That was a comprehensive victory. Almost as impressive as Kerry's hammering of Clare.
I always thought that the Leinster championship was a joke based on posters opinions here. Turns out the Munster/Connacht championship is just as farcical
Today was the All-Ireland finalists hammering a Div 4 team that was hammered themselves in their shield final against Wexford.
Connacht winners the last 6 years. Mayo 2,Galway 2 and Roscommon 2.
Exactly. It just shows how farcical the championship is when it's based on a provincial system.
Hammerings happens in all team sports systems.
A 5 five team provincial championship having the last 6 titles shared between 3 teams is far from a farcical.
So what your saying is the likes of Leitrim/Sligo and London just have to suck it up as the winners each year might be different. I'm just glad it not a dubs fan suggesting that
They'd be slaughtered for such arrogance
Carry on, I made the mistake in thinking you were giving an serious opinion.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 26, 2021, 10:49:40 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 26, 2021, 09:44:10 PM
Sligo have fallen some distance. Bar Murphy and Carrabine, they haven't a player that would get near the Mayo panel.
They have. I'm surprised that Peter Naughton didn't get more of a run being two footed and all but that's neither here nor there now.
It went as expected. Mayo impressed in the first half, it was over as a contest after Aidan got his first goal. While I didn't see it on TV, it appeared that Sligo were in poor fitness and struggled to come to terms with the movement of the Mayo team, whereas Mayo harried and hounded the Sligo players all through the game. Delighted for Darren McHale, he has been one of the top performers in the Mayo club scene for the last few years. He will face much sterner opposition while wearing the green and red though. Job done, move on to Leitrim.
Their fitness and conditioning was very poor. They have a long road ahead of them to get back to a place where they are competitive in Connacht.
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Quote from: Blowitupref on June 26, 2021, 10:03:16 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 26, 2021, 09:44:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 26, 2021, 09:39:28 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 26, 2021, 09:32:24 PM
Well done Mayo tonight. That was a comprehensive victory. Almost as impressive as Kerry's hammering of Clare.
I always thought that the Leinster championship was a joke based on posters opinions here. Turns out the Munster/Connacht championship is just as farcical
Today was the All-Ireland finalists hammering a Div 4 team that was hammered themselves in their shield final against Wexford.
Connacht winners the last 6 years. Mayo 2,Galway 2 and Roscommon 2.
Exactly. It just shows how farcical the championship is when it's based on a provincial system.
Hammerings happens in all team sports systems.
A 5 five team provincial championship having the last 6 titles shared between 3 teams is far from a farcical.
So what your saying is the likes of Leitrim/Sligo and London just have to suck it up as the winners each year might be different. I'm just glad it not a dubs fan suggesting that
They'd be slaughtered for such arrogance
Carry on, I made the mistake in thinking you were giving an serious opinion.
Provincial championships are a waste of time. Routine hammerings handed out in 3 of the provinces every year that achieve nothing for anybody. Yet only Dublin and Leinster championship gets criticised for it's hammerings here.
At least in hurling they have different tournaments for sides of different abilities and it's run on a league basis rather than knock out like all the main competitions in other sports
Without Googling tell me the teams in each of the McDonagh, Christy Ring, Nickey Rackard and Lory Meagher competitions.
Who are the reigning Champions in each competition?
How many of these games are covered on Live TV?
Has any county progressed since the emergence of these competitions?
Leinster was engineered to be a waste of time.
The other provinces still have the capacity for great drama such as Leitrim in 94 or Tipp last year.
Other sports such as the 6N and EPL also have structural inequalities. Which countries have won the least Grand Slams? How many titles have Liverpool and Man Utd won compared to.West Ham and Tottenham ?
The fairest way is a 32 county open draw all Ireland with luck of draw weaker teams could get at least to quarter finals
i dont see why hurling are still running provincials championships linked to all ireland aswell hurling should get rid of provincials and have a national draw
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Quote from: From the Bunker on June 27, 2021, 10:54:10 AM
Without Googling tell me the teams in each of the McDonagh, Christy Ring, Nickey Rackard and Lory Meagher competitions.
Who are the reigning Champions in each competition?
How many of these games are covered on Live TV?
Has any county progressed since the emergence of these competitions?
I don't know off the top of my head at least but by playing against sides of similar ability they have a chance of a trophy to aim for at the start of every championship season. Is that not the point of competitive sport! You're always moaning no one can win the All Ireland anymore and you want Dublin to keep winning so things will change.
Lack of tv coverage is such a ridiculous argument against change. How many times have Leitrim, Wicklow, Wexford, footballers been on tv? If they get a 2 minutes highlights package on the Sunday game they're lucky.
I bet Sligo were delighted their humiliation was broadcast on tv last night. It probably made the defeat slightly lees depressing knowing they had the game recorded and they could watch it back today
Quote from: seafoid on June 27, 2021, 10:56:08 AM
Leinster was engineered to be a waste of time.
The other provinces still have the capacity for great drama such as Leitrim in 94 or Tipp last year.
Other sports such as the 6N and EPL also have structural inequalities. Which countries have won the least Grand Slams? How many titles have Liverpool and Man Utd won compared to.West Ham and Tottenham ?
The EPL is an excellent example of how to run a competition. Teams compete against each other in a league format on a home and away basis and everyone plays the exact same number of games against the exact same opposition. If you're a good team you challenge for the trophies. If you're not good enough for that level you drop down a level to play against teams closer to your level the following season.
The only difference being teams in the EPL can buy/sell players to improve dramatically and quickly themselves where as in GAA transfers don't exist (expect for Seanie Johnston)
Quote from: dublin7 on June 27, 2021, 01:48:32 PM
at least but by playing against sides of similar ability they have a chance of a trophy to aim for.
Already have that, it's called NFL Div 3,4. And for the record neither Sligo, Leitrim were good enough to challenge for Div 4 title.
Quote from: Eire90 on June 27, 2021, 11:40:53 AM
The fairest way is a 32 county open draw all Ireland with luck of draw weaker teams could get at least to quarter finals
And play it in November .....
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Quote from: dublin7 on June 27, 2021, 01:48:32 PM
at least but by playing against sides of similar ability they have a chance of a trophy to aim for.
Already have that, it's called NFL Div 3,4. And for the record neither Sligo, Leitrim were good enough to challenge for Div 4 title.
So you're saying they deserve to be hammered in the championship come summer. Fair enough. Good to know come later on in the year
Quote from: dublin7 on June 27, 2021, 06:21:31 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 27, 2021, 01:57:43 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 27, 2021, 01:48:32 PM
at least but by playing against sides of similar ability they have a chance of a trophy to aim for.
Already have that, it's called NFL Div 3,4. And for the record neither Sligo, Leitrim were good enough to challenge for Div 4 title.
So you're saying they deserve to be hammered in the championship come summer. Fair enough. Good to know come later on in the year
no why would you play it november unless you want two all ireland champiosnhips per year
Anybody notice the Sligo 11, Cian Lally, coming on.
Substitution was delayed as he didn't have his gumshield - you'd be raging as a manger - but then as he ran onto the field he just stuck it in his sock.
Every time the camera was on him he seemed to be smirking.
Later on, he fell over and got a very soft free. You could see he wasn't wearing the gum shield.
It's a while since I played, and gumshields weren't compulsory
Would it be common that players would leave them out and play on?
Or did the ref miss it cos it would be that rare that he wouldn't notice
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2021, 09:41:07 PM
Yep feckin Rhubarbs on a 1 in a row run or 1 out of last 5.
Puts Dublin's 15 out of 16/10 in a row in the halfpenny place.
Mayo have been the best team in connacht since 2011 , we have played in finals of 12,13, 16,17 and 20. semi finals of 11,12,13,14,15,16,17,19 & 20.
i think galway got to semi in 18 but apart from that both galway and ros have been very poor when winning nestor cup . I personally dont mind if others see it different but the truth is never has there been a sustained period where a team in connacht been clear cut better than the rest .
After winning a few in a row I expect the Rhubarbs started to look at peaking for the closing stages of the AI and let us and Galway scrap away for Nestor.
Anyway on to the Hyde next Sunday where we'll see have Ros shaken off the lethargy evident in the NFL and last November.
If we have then uts a 50/50 game.
If we haven't there will be only 1 winner and we'll be left soul searching to see has this present squad reached the end of the line.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 28, 2021, 12:42:35 PM
After winning a few in a row I expect the Rhubarbs started to look at peaking for the closing stages of the AI and let us and Galway scrap away for Nestor.
Anyway on to the Hyde next Sunday where we'll see have Ros shaken off the lethargy evident in the NFL and last November.
If we have then uts a 50/50 game.
If we haven't there will be only 1 winner and we'll be left soul searching to see has this present squad reached the end of the line.
its a hard one to call, Galway looked so poor v kerry but looked a lot better v dublin . Their game with Monaghan still has me scratching my head , how galway didnt close it out with been the better team and a few points ahead coming down the stretch is worrying for them especially with it being such a meaningful game .Roscommon were sluggish in the league in what i saw and didnt look like they had much about them , have they lost a bit of belief ?
id make galway favs , gun to my head id stick my euro on galway by 6 . knockout championship will give it an edge though obviously and cunningham seems to have that part mastered.
This game is 50/50, you couldn't know what way either team will show up.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 28, 2021, 01:45:54 PM
You couldn't know what way either team will show up.
The plus side of both sides recent form is that there is the possibility of it being a tight exciting game.
Whoever wins the will be hoping the win will give them momentum to take on Mayo in Castlebar.
This is Cunningham's last year of his term - would be no great surprise if he moved on - the Connacht title in 2019 seems like millenia ago at this stage.
PJ has one year left and I think even with the relegation and if Galway lose this game he will get to see his term out.
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on June 27, 2021, 10:31:41 PM
Anybody notice the Sligo 11, Cian Lally, coming on.
Substitution was delayed as he didn't have his gumshield - you'd be raging as a manger - but then as he ran onto the field he just stuck it in his sock.
Every time the camera was on him he seemed to be smirking.
Later on, he fell over and got a very soft free. You could see he wasn't wearing the gum shield.
It's a while since I played, and gumshields weren't compulsory
Would it be common that players would leave them out and play on?
Or did the ref miss it cos it would be that rare that he wouldn't notice
Stefan Campbell for Armagh was given a yellow card for not wearing one against Tyrone
I think Roscommon are similar to ourselves in that you don't know what you're going to get from game to game.
A base level of consistency of performance that Dublin (obviously), Kerry (Cork blip apart) and Mayo provide just isn't there.
We are the type of team that could scrape a result against Mayo or Kerry on the one hand (on a given day), then just as easily lose to them by 15-20 points another day. We don't seem to have the quality to perform on a consistent basis.
I have no idea what to expect from us on Sunday either. Completely 50-50 game I think.
If I were Mayo I would be very wary of playing Galway or Roscommon
Quote from: Solo_run on June 28, 2021, 04:13:43 PM
If I were Mayo I would be very wary of playing Galway or Roscommon
There is zero evidence to suggest either would trouble them unfortunately.
Quote from: Solo_run on June 28, 2021, 02:19:46 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on June 27, 2021, 10:31:41 PM
Anybody notice the Sligo 11, Cian Lally, coming on.
Substitution was delayed as he didn't have his gumshield - you'd be raging as a manger - but then as he ran onto the field he just stuck it in his sock.
Every time the camera was on him he seemed to be smirking.
Later on, he fell over and got a very soft free. You could see he wasn't wearing the gum shield.
It's a while since I played, and gumshields weren't compulsory
Would it be common that players would leave them out and play on?
Or did the ref miss it cos it would be that rare that he wouldn't notice
Stefan Campbell for Armagh was given a yellow card for not wearing one against Tyrone
The enforcement can vary from ref to ref. I've definitely seen lads at intercounty without them on occasion.
The reason it was brought in was on those occasions where things go wrong it can end up costing a lot of money to fix.
I remember talking to a dentist a few years back and he was saying the rule about gum shields should have been brought in years ago.
He was saying that when things do go wrong a gum shield will reduce the odds of being injured and even when there is an injury it will reduce the severity.
He was also saying that its nuts that other sports - rugby, soccer, basketball don't have gum shields as mandatory.
Quote from: galwayman on June 28, 2021, 04:36:22 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on June 28, 2021, 04:13:43 PM
If I were Mayo I would be very wary of playing Galway or Roscommon
There is zero evidence to suggest either would trouble them unfortunately.
I think Galway have more of a point to prove and they will be annoyed they were relegated. I like Galway but I am glad Monaghan stayed up as I wouldn't have liked Armagh playing against them had they gone down.
Relegation and the loss to Armagh will have quite a damaging effect on Roscommon's morale and where they are as a team. They lost their relegation play-off convincingly and whilst Galways will be annoyed they missed their opportunity to stay in the division.
I think it will be a Galway and Mayo final and unlike last year you will get a championship game beforehand
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 28, 2021, 02:12:22 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 28, 2021, 01:45:54 PM
You couldn't know what way either team will show up.
The plus side of both sides recent form is that there is the possibility of it being a tight exciting game.
Whoever wins the will be hoping the win will give them momentum to take on Mayo in Castlebar.
This is Cunningham's last year of his term - would be no great surprise if he moved on - the Connacht title in 2019 seems like millenia ago at this stage.
PJ has one year left and I think even with the relegation and if Galway lose this game he will get to see his term out.
Cunningham got an extension but may walk after a defeat on Sunday. https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/anthony-cunningham-given-two-year-extension-as-roscommon-boss-39782916.html
Another defeat and poor performance could well see him walk.
If he does we'll have another Autumn of drama and farce based on our record of manager appointments!
Quote from: Rossfan on June 28, 2021, 09:23:29 PM
Another defeat and poor performance could well see him walk.
If he does we'll have another Autumn of drama and farce based on our record of manager appointments!
Instead of Sligo McEntee would have been perfect for Roscommon
Why so?
Not as worried about the sluggish league performances as many in the county and the Roscommon Herald as ever makes for depressing reading this week. Put simply a county of our resources cannot be all things and extra emphasis on league has resulted in flat championship in modern times. I have faith AC knows what he is doing and the way Gary had the young Bridgets team flying fit in the championship last year gives me hope that we are timing things for a good old assault on Connacht.
On the last 3 occasions Roscommon have been relegated, we've won the Connacht title. Good league form doesn't usually translate to championship for us recently.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 28, 2021, 02:12:22 PM
PJ has one year left and I think even with the relegation and if Galway lose this game he will get to see his term out.
No quotes from the manager as he left the media duties this week to Concannon but the mood music is certainly being set for staying on regardless of the result, quotes that "
"We have a very young team...everybody is learning" and "
there may be eight, nine, 10 players either making their debut or their second Championship game for Galway, nobody realises that" were the main talking points out of his interview, blaming inexperience for the loss against Monaghan down the stretch. All fair enough points I suppose but you need to go out and perform regardless, you have what you have and it's their panel that they picked, don't know if that's the type of talk you'd like to hear going into a knockout championship game but won't matter much if they show up on Sunday.
Ronan Steede is gone from the Galway panel, slightly surprising as even when he had a very rocky start to the FBD and league in 2020 Joyce stuck with him and was mad to get him into the setup. Steede got more up to speed after that and was playing well pre COVID although I appreciate that may as well be ten years ago at this stage. Would have thought he'd be a bench option at least.
"Championship is the only thing that matters" has been the mantra from both managers ahead of this match and remains to be seen what happens to the unlucky manager to lose out, lack of a backdoor is a killer really, Rossies and Galway may not be in the top tier of counties but certainly would fancy themselves against any of other teams outside the top 8.
I genuinely wouldn't like to have to call it, any number of scenarios are just as likely to be honest, Rossies could come storming out with a 2017 style performance, Galway could win narrowly in a tight game, either of the teams are liable to just not show up on the day and take a good beating as well.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 02, 2021, 10:14:54 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 28, 2021, 02:12:22 PM
PJ has one year left and I think even with the relegation and if Galway lose this game he will get to see his term out.
No quotes from the manager as he left the media duties this week to Concannon but the mood music is certainly being set for staying on regardless of the result, quotes that "“We have a very young team...everybody is learning" and "there may be eight, nine, 10 players either making their debut or their second Championship game for Galway, nobody realises that" were the main talking points out of his interview, blaming inexperience for the loss against Monaghan down the stretch. All fair enough points I suppose but you need to go out and perform regardless, you have what you have and it’s their panel that they picked, don’t know if that’s the type of talk you’d like to hear going into a knockout championship game but won’t matter much if they show up on Sunday.
Ronan Steede is gone from the Galway panel, slightly surprising as even when he had a very rocky start to the FBD and league in 2020 Joyce stuck with him and was mad to get him into the setup. Steede got more up to speed after that and was playing well pre COVID although I appreciate that may as well be ten years ago at this stage. Would have thought he'd be a bench option at least.
“Championship is the only thing that matters” has been the mantra from both managers ahead of this match and remains to be seen what happens to the unlucky manager to lose out, lack of a backdoor is a killer really, Rossies and Galway may not be in the top tier of counties but certainly would fancy themselves against any of other teams outside the top 8.
I genuinely wouldn’t like to have to call it, any number of scenarios are just as likely to be honest, Rossies could come storming out with a 2017 style performance, Galway could win narrowly in a tight game, either of the teams are liable to just not show up on the day and take a good beating as well.
have many Galway player left the panel by their own choice.
Galway don't seem to have the strength in Depth they used to or if im being honest theforst team they had a few years back. The Zip seems to be gone from them
Galway (SF v Roscommon): C Gleeson; S O Ceallaigh, S Mulkerrin, L Silke; K Molloy, D McHugh, J Heaney; P Conroy, M Tierney; D Comer, P Cooke, F O Laoi; R Finnerty, S Walsh, P O Ceallaigh.
Gleeson getting the nod over Power. Assuming they line out as selected, a first Championship start for Comer since Dublin in 2018, hard to believe.
Quote from: rosnarun on July 02, 2021, 10:39:48 AM
have many Galway player left the panel by their own choice.
Galway don't seem to have the strength in Depth they used to or if im being honest theforst team they had a few years back. The Zip seems to be gone from them
A lot of players have left as a result of their own choice for a number of reasons, some of those that left were the solid, tough players that are required on every team the likes of Cathal Sweeney, Declan Kyne. A good number of players form just fell off a cliff as well, Ian Burke notably went from All Star form to offering very little, Sean Andy made a nice start to IC in 2018 but rapidly downhill after that. Injuries have destroyed Comer, for Galway we can't be without those difference making and game changing players, just do not have the replacements. John Daly another lad who you'd be looking to build a team around, cruciate injury.
Good oul Indo :D
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/damien-comer-returns-to-galway-team-for-connacht-semi-final-against-sligo-40605698.html
I wish we could pick a keeper and stick with him, not much between either of them but we need to be more consistent with whoever is picked.
Roscommon starting team and subs for Sunday.
Colm Lavin - Eire Og
David Murray - Padraig Pearses
Brian Stack - St Brigids
Conor Daly - Padraig Pearses
Niall Daly - Padraig Pearses
Conor Hussey - Mícheal Glaveys
Sean Mullooly - Strokestown
Enda Smith - Boyle
Eddie Nolan - St Brigids
Niall Kilroy - Fuerty
Ciaran Murtagh - St Faithleachs
Shane Killoran - Elphin
Diarmuid Murtagh - St Faithleachs
Donie Smith - Boyle
Conor Cox - Eire Og
Subs : Patrick O Malley, David Neary, Fergal Lennon, Richard Hughes, Ronan Daly, Tadgh O Rourke, Cathal Cregg, Cian McKeon, Conor Devaney, Ciaran Lennon, Ultan Harney.
2 bald men fighting over a comb
Quote from: rosnarun on July 02, 2021, 10:39:48 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 02, 2021, 10:14:54 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 28, 2021, 02:12:22 PM
PJ has one year left and I think even with the relegation and if Galway lose this game he will get to see his term out.
No quotes from the manager as he left the media duties this week to Concannon but the mood music is certainly being set for staying on regardless of the result, quotes that ""We have a very young team...everybody is learning" and "there may be eight, nine, 10 players either making their debut or their second Championship game for Galway, nobody realises that" were the main talking points out of his interview, blaming inexperience for the loss against Monaghan down the stretch. All fair enough points I suppose but you need to go out and perform regardless, you have what you have and it's their panel that they picked, don't know if that's the type of talk you'd like to hear going into a knockout championship game but won't matter much if they show up on Sunday.
Ronan Steede is gone from the Galway panel, slightly surprising as even when he had a very rocky start to the FBD and league in 2020 Joyce stuck with him and was mad to get him into the setup. Steede got more up to speed after that and was playing well pre COVID although I appreciate that may as well be ten years ago at this stage. Would have thought he'd be a bench option at least.
"Championship is the only thing that matters" has been the mantra from both managers ahead of this match and remains to be seen what happens to the unlucky manager to lose out, lack of a backdoor is a killer really, Rossies and Galway may not be in the top tier of counties but certainly would fancy themselves against any of other teams outside the top 8.
I genuinely wouldn't like to have to call it, any number of scenarios are just as likely to be honest, Rossies could come storming out with a 2017 style performance, Galway could win narrowly in a tight game, either of the teams are liable to just not show up on the day and take a good beating as well.
have many Galway player left the panel by their own choice.
Galway don't seem to have the strength in Depth they used to or if im being honest theforst team they had a few years back. The Zip seems to be gone from them
The first team is stronger if anything. Mulkerrin, Tierney and Kelly are 3 of the best underage players we've seen in Connacht for a while. Two other very promising 19 year olds on the bench. Cooke back is big and they'd hopefully have John Daly back shortly who is absolutely essential, probably moreso than any player.
The issue compared to the settled side years ago is inexperience, a general lack of bite and what looks like a lot of tactical deficiencies sadly. The team has now come back from two lockdowns completely unfit, as Joyce seems to be the only manager in Ireland naive enough to take covid protocol seriously. Defensive setup has left a lot to be desired at times also
Quote from: Manning18 on July 02, 2021, 02:50:44 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 02, 2021, 10:39:48 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 02, 2021, 10:14:54 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 28, 2021, 02:12:22 PM
PJ has one year left and I think even with the relegation and if Galway lose this game he will get to see his term out.
No quotes from the manager as he left the media duties this week to Concannon but the mood music is certainly being set for staying on regardless of the result, quotes that ""We have a very young team...everybody is learning" and "there may be eight, nine, 10 players either making their debut or their second Championship game for Galway, nobody realises that" were the main talking points out of his interview, blaming inexperience for the loss against Monaghan down the stretch. All fair enough points I suppose but you need to go out and perform regardless, you have what you have and it's their panel that they picked, don't know if that's the type of talk you'd like to hear going into a knockout championship game but won't matter much if they show up on Sunday.
Ronan Steede is gone from the Galway panel, slightly surprising as even when he had a very rocky start to the FBD and league in 2020 Joyce stuck with him and was mad to get him into the setup. Steede got more up to speed after that and was playing well pre COVID although I appreciate that may as well be ten years ago at this stage. Would have thought he'd be a bench option at least.
"Championship is the only thing that matters" has been the mantra from both managers ahead of this match and remains to be seen what happens to the unlucky manager to lose out, lack of a backdoor is a killer really, Rossies and Galway may not be in the top tier of counties but certainly would fancy themselves against any of other teams outside the top 8.
I genuinely wouldn't like to have to call it, any number of scenarios are just as likely to be honest, Rossies could come storming out with a 2017 style performance, Galway could win narrowly in a tight game, either of the teams are liable to just not show up on the day and take a good beating as well.
have many Galway player left the panel by their own choice.
Galway don't seem to have the strength in Depth they used to or if im being honest theforst team they had a few years back. The Zip seems to be gone from them
The first team is stronger if anything. Mulkerrin, Tierney and Kelly are 3 of the best underage players we've seen in Connacht for a while. Two other very promising 19 year olds on the bench. Cooke back is big and they'd hopefully have John Daly back shortly who is absolutely essential, probably moreso than any player.
The issue compared to the settled side years ago is inexperience, a general lack of bite and what looks like a lot of tactical deficiencies sadly. The team has now come back from two lockdowns completely unfit, as Joyce seems to be the only manager in Ireland naive enough to take covid protocol seriously. Defensive setup has left a lot to be desired at times also
Cunningham has done the same with Roscommon from what I have seen. Mayo the very opposite of both Galway, Roscommon. Flying fit and full of running.
Yeah it was open knowledge Mayo were training through the first lockdown, never mind the second. I could understand PJ making the mistake once but it happening twice is unforgiveable. Even the way he talks about covid in interviews you get the impression he thinks there should be no GAA at all and it's unfair making players play
Quote from: Manning18 on July 02, 2021, 08:41:26 PM
Yeah it was open knowledge Mayo were training through the first lockdown, never mind the second. I could understand PJ making the mistake once but it happening twice is unforgiveable. Even the way he talks about covid in interviews you get the impression he thinks there should be no GAA at all and it's unfair making players play
Aye that's it. Mayo were training during lockdown and Galway weren't
You leave Frankie Dolan in the ha'penny place when it comes to having a chip on your shoulder about Mayo!
I'm looking forward to tomorrow's game I must say. Hopefully it'll be close. Personally I can't call it as both teams are going in on the back of disappointing league campaigns. While Galway won the league game, I think Anthony Cunningham might use that game to spur the Roscommon team on. A lot depends on the old cliché 'which team turns up'.
Where Ultan Harney disappear to, good player at u-21 level? Cathal Compton play no more either?
Harney has had a catalogue of injuries but is on the bench tomorrow.
Compton injured this year too and apparently left the panel as he was trying to establish a business.
Hard to see our lads being turned from flat, tired oul performances to flying Championship one in 3 weeks.
But when least expected we can so often surprise.
Galway can be hit and miss too so anything possible on the day.
Can't see us doing it but as ever it's sport which can be so illogical (except when playing Dublin) so you never know.
ROS ABÚ💛💛💛💙💙
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 03, 2021, 09:45:38 AM
Where Ultan Harney disappear to, good player at u-21 level? Cathal Compton play no more either?
Harney tore his cruciate.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 03, 2021, 09:45:38 AM
Where Ultan Harney disappear to, good player at u-21 level? Cathal Compton play no more either?
Ultan has had multiple hamstring injuries, osteitis pubis , stress fracture in his back, cruciate injury and bulged disks in his neck in recent years.
Compton pulls his hamstring every couple of months. Don't think his hamstring are able for it
Quote from: Rossfan on July 03, 2021, 10:00:05 AM
Harney has had a catalogue of injuries but is on the bench tomorrow.
Compton injured this year too and apparently left the panel as he was trying to establish a business.
Hard to see our lads being turned from flat, tired oul performances to flying Championship one in 3 weeks.
But when least expected we can so often surprise.
Galway can be hit and miss too so anything possible on the day.
Can't see us doing it but as ever it's sport which can be so illogical (except when playing Dublin) so you never know.
ROS ABÚ💛💛💛💙💙
Still remember Roscommon beating Dublin in Parnell park around 2002. Thry wouldn't get near them in Croker
Galway subs today.
B Power.
S A O Kelly
J Duane
J Glynn
C Sweeney
G O Donnell
E Brannigan
T Flynn
P Costello
D Conneely
T Culhane
Joyce is known for making late changes so won't be a surprise if one of two of that above list starts
Could counties please stop hitting this guy poacher please...
Mayo will make dog shite of the winner of this game. Poor spectacle.
Willie Heggarty on Shannonside, pissing rain at Hyde Park.
"There will be no need for a water break, all the players will have to is open their mouth"
That was point for young Murtagh not given.
Quote from: joemamas on July 04, 2021, 01:30:05 PM
Willie Heggarty on Shannonside, pissing rain at Hyde Park.
"There will be no need for a water break, all the players will have to is open their mouth"
;D ;D ;D ;D
20 minutes played Roscommon 0-2 Galway 0-2. Tactical cagey affair thus far played in testing conditions.
Half time Roscommon 0-7 Galway 1-5. In a tight contest that goal could make a big difference. Roscommon won't be pleased with their defending on it.
We're not playing well. Not sure we deserve to be a point up.
Shane Walsh looks injured to me. Doesn't seem to be really moving off the ball.
We'll do well to get out of this with a win.
Mayo will beat whoever wins today regardless
Quote from: galwayman on July 04, 2021, 02:04:57 PM
We're not playing well. Not sure we deserve to be a point up.
Shane Walsh looks injured to me. Doesn't seem to be really moving off the ball.
We'll do well to get out of this with a win.
Mayo will beat whoever wins today regardless
Comer may have picked up a knock earlier, his movement off the ball, and his tackling is pretty much zero.
Larry Finnerty young buck with point for the galweigans
Galway basic kicking of the ball is symbol of county football.
The rossies getting ratty. Galway need ensure no red cards.
Roscommon 0-9 Galway 1-10. 55 minutes played.
FT Roscommon 0-12 Galway 2-11. 2nd goal a total gift ended the game as a contest. That Galway performance today won't get close to beating Mayo in the final.
Woeful stuff.
Roscommon defensive tactics were self-defeating; also terrible to watch
To be fair to both sets of players the conditions were absolutely horrendous.
Awful game, awful conditions. Galway needed to dig it out and they did, not a great performance, certainly not good enough for Mayo. Unless Rossies got a few points up that system wasn't going to do the job really. That said I wouldn't have any criticism of it though, if they did get a good lead from say a goal, Galway would have been up against it trying to break it down, the handling conditions there in the Hyde today were appalling.
Shane Walsh injury is typical, as soon as Galway got second goal if he had a strain he should have been hooked.
McHugh has grown reasonably into CHB role, I would have been skeptical as to how he'd get on but he's improved a lot. The Kelly's are two really good lads, couldn't have enough of those players involved in a county setup.
Tierney has the talent alright, will hopefully kick on.
Edit:
Forgot to mention for all that McHugh is playing alright, Galway look very exposed to teams that can run at pace straight into the middle of the defence with players to off load to, I would say that this is probably what Mayo do better than nearly any other team, if the Galway mgt don't come up with a structure to combat this then it'll be a long day in McHale Park on the 25th.
Conditions certainly played its part but that was such a low quality match between too sides low on confidence after relegation 3 weeks ago.
The goals was the obvious difference, first one Peter Cooke allowed to drift in unchallenged and it was a comedy of errors by Roscommon on the 2nd goal. Big part of Galway display was defensively, they never allowed Roscommon to get a goal that they needed, tackled in packs and marked the Murtaghs and Cox out of the game.
That win should be enough to keep Joyce on for another year but unless they improve its hard to see them beating Mayo in the final. It will likely be the end of the road for Anthony Cunningham as Roscommon manager.
Deserved win for Galway. I was optimistic at half time as after Galway goal, we started to play and string good scores together. We did miss a lot too, and had what looked a good point waved wide, and looked like opposite happened for Galway in second half. Very disjointed second half and apart from Cregg's 2 minutes before injury when he stole in for a score, subs did not work. AC did not have a great day on the line and how Kiloran and Diarmuid were taken off before Cox is a mystery. As for the new defensive Poacher tactics, just awful to watch. Adds nothing to our game, other than signal to opposition we are afraid. It's been a poor year and I suppose the best that can be said is we are put out of our misery. Congrats to Galway, they will know themselves that a huge improvement is needed for a Mayo even without COC. But Shane Walsh would be a bigger loss for Galway. But like last year, Galway can always raise their game for Mayo.
Quote from: weareros on July 04, 2021, 05:13:16 PM
Deserved win for Galway. I was optimistic at half time as after Galway goal, we started to play and string good scores together. We did miss a lot too, and had what looked a good point waved wide, and looked like opposite happened for Galway in second half. Very disjointed second half and apart from Cregg's 2 minutes before injury when he stole in for a score, subs did not work. AC did not have a great day on the line and how Kiloran and Diarmuid were taken off before Cox is a mystery. As for the new defensive Poacher tactics, just awful to watch. Adds nothing to our game, other than signal to opposition we are afraid. It's been a poor year and I suppose the best that can be said is we are put out of our misery. Congrats to Galway, they will know themselves that a huge improvement is needed for a Mayo even without COC. But Shane Walsh would be a bigger loss for Galway. But like last year, Galway can always raise their game for Mayo.
Gracious words weareros- fair play.
You're right - Shane is just totally irreplaceable.
It was obvious watching him he was carrying a hamstring today - I really don't think he should have played today. He seems to have aggravated it now too which is a disaster for the Connacht final.
Quote from: galwayman on July 04, 2021, 05:29:07 PM
Quote from: weareros on July 04, 2021, 05:13:16 PM
Deserved win for Galway. I was optimistic at half time as after Galway goal, we started to play and string good scores together. We did miss a lot too, and had what looked a good point waved wide, and looked like opposite happened for Galway in second half. Very disjointed second half and apart from Cregg's 2 minutes before injury when he stole in for a score, subs did not work. AC did not have a great day on the line and how Kiloran and Diarmuid were taken off before Cox is a mystery. As for the new defensive Poacher tactics, just awful to watch. Adds nothing to our game, other than signal to opposition we are afraid. It's been a poor year and I suppose the best that can be said is we are put out of our misery. Congrats to Galway, they will know themselves that a huge improvement is needed for a Mayo even without COC. But Shane Walsh would be a bigger loss for Galway. But like last year, Galway can always raise their game for Mayo.
Gracious words weareros- fair play.
You're right - Shane is just totally irreplaceable.
It was obvious watching him he was carrying a hamstring today - I really don't think he should have played today. He seems to have aggravated it now too which is a disaster for the Connacht final.
You could see he was really reluctant to shoot today which isn't like him so he obviously wasn't 100%, hopefully he hasn't done too much damage. The young lads really stood up today while our more senior players were quiet enough, Molloy, McHugh, the Kellys and Tierney were really good. Gleeson needs to get rid of the ball a lot quicker, he's not comfortable on the ball and his distribution is dodgy. Huge improvements to be made in a lot of areas but a step in the right direction anyway.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 04, 2021, 03:38:04 PM
Conditions certainly played its part but that was such a low quality match between too sides low on confidence after relegation 3 weeks ago.
The goals was the obvious difference, first one Peter Cooke allowed to drift in unchallenged and it was a comedy of errors by Roscommon on the 2nd goal. Big part of Galway display was defensively, they never allowed Roscommon to get a goal that they needed, tackled in packs and marked the Murtaghs and Cox out of the game.
That win should be enough to keep Joyce on for another year but unless they improve its hard to see them beating Mayo in the final. It will likely be the end of the road for Anthony Cunningham as Roscommon manager.
He might end up as the new Galway hurling manager.
As Weareros said we've been put out of our misery which has been ongoing since last November.
Galway deserved the win if only for attacking with a bit of pace while we went on with thoul sideways backward walking pace watery shite football.
Don't know if AC will stay but he displayed a lack of confidence in himself by hiring that Poacher.
We seem to be on an inevitable slide as happens with small Counties when a set of good players run out of steam.
Hard luck on Cathal Cregg lasting only 2 minutes on what is probably his last Ros game after 13 or14 years.
Hard luck to the Rossies, our neighbours.
Straight knockout reminds me of the late 90s. The long drive home and nothing til the following year.
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 03, 2021, 02:24:55 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on July 02, 2021, 08:41:26 PM
Yeah it was open knowledge Mayo were training through the first lockdown, never mind the second. I could understand PJ making the mistake once but it happening twice is unforgiveable. Even the way he talks about covid in interviews you get the impression he thinks there should be no GAA at all and it's unfair making players play
Aye that's it. Mayo were training during lockdown and Galway weren't
You leave Frankie Dolan in the ha'penny place when it comes to having a chip on your shoulder about Mayo!
The GAA asked every team during lockdown one were they collectively training. 28 said no and 4 said no comment, including Mayo. Do you play a bit of ball? It's not exactly hard to hear these things. Perhaps you need to branch out your social circle a bit? What exactly would I, as a Galway person, have a chip about Mayo about? The 3 All Ireland's in 272 GAA seasons is it?
Quote from: seafoid on July 04, 2021, 06:21:16 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 04, 2021, 03:38:04 PM
Conditions certainly played its part but that was such a low quality match between too sides low on confidence after relegation 3 weeks ago.
The goals was the obvious difference, first one Peter Cooke allowed to drift in unchallenged and it was a comedy of errors by Roscommon on the 2nd goal. Big part of Galway display was defensively, they never allowed Roscommon to get a goal that they needed, tackled in packs and marked the Murtaghs and Cox out of the game.
That win should be enough to keep Joyce on for another year but unless they improve its hard to see them beating Mayo in the final. It will likely be the end of the road for Anthony Cunningham as Roscommon manager.
He might end up as the new Galway hurling manager.
There's nearly as much chance of you or I getting it as Cunningham. He was hounded out the last time - he won't ever get it again.
No complaints about the result, a degree of inevitability about it from a long way off. Negative tactics taking 15 back behind the ball, the likes of Diarmuid looked leg weary taking on shots he would normally get. Despite the current group been together for quite sometime we still can't defend individually or collectively. Today Enda, Stack, Mullolly & C Daly can be happy with their performances. The free taker for Galway looks like a great find, Galway will be well able for Mayo. Judging them on a hard wet pitch would be dumb. They showed more positivity than ourselves & deserved their result.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/kevin-mcstay-i-was-surprised-by-roscommon-s-defensive-set-up-1.4612125
Roscommon have had two championship games in two years and lost both. What does that do for the best group the county has produced since 1990? There is no new wave coming up behind them because the underage development has not been at a level to allow for that.
So it becomes a predictable shuffle. A team goes forward for a few years and then slips back dramatically.
I don't see things changing when the pandemic has passed because by then morale will be shot. Roscommon made a huge effort to make it to that next level but they are back at square one now.
I am not sure that crowds will come back in the numbers we take for granted. Why go to watch Leitrim or Sligo or Roscommon get pulverized by Galway and Mayo over the next few years? These teams and counties are lost: they are out of solutions.
If the GAA doesn't step in then we will have two or three counties dominating and the vast majority in retreat. Many counties will look at the cost of participation in terms of finance and time and figure it is not worth it.
The top teams are like a runaway train. Galway and maybe one or two others might catch it. But don't pretend that makes an All-Ireland championship.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/kevin-mcstay-i-was-surprised-by-roscommon-s-defensive-set-up-1.4612125
Appearing in the last four regularly and bossing your province. That was the ambition I had for us in Roscommon. There are so many counties like Roscommon. I met them regularly in Division 2 and the lower tiers of Division 1. It was a discussion we often had. Can we become consistent enough to get to the next level? And we couldn't do that.
The best we could do was win a Connacht title and then get a draw with Mayo in an All-Ireland quarter final. Now, Roscommon have not played in an All-Ireland semi-final in 30 years. 1991. It is a long time ago. And they haven't got a result in Croke Park in 40 years.
Monaghan have been the most consistent of the middle-tier group. Yet they have made it to just one All-Ireland semi-final. It is a poor return from the collective.
So there is a clear gap that all these teams are trying to bridge. Right now, Galway look best placed, with Armagh also looking very promising. But it is not happening for most counties and there is little sign of it happening.
I feel this is the biggest challenge facing the GAA. If they could fix this and get those 10 or 11 teams competing properly then we would have a full hearted, unpredictable All-Ireland football championship, with 16 teams capable of competing with one another and producing shock results.
This is a deep rooted issue and it is really sucking the life out of squads throughout the land. Management, players, supporters and the county boards are finding it increasingly hard to even touch that dream - summer days in Croke Park, giddiness in the county, flags out. Those are becoming rare sights - everywhere.
Galway have grabbed hold of this possibility and I think their potential is predicated on the five young lads that Galway brought through.
In 2017 Roscommon won the Under-17 Connacht final against their team. Three years later they were annihilated in the Under-20 final. And Galway got those five central players - the Kelly brothers, Tierney, Sean Mulkerrin and Dylan McHugh from that group. Roscommon had zero players on the match day 26 on Sunday.
Quote from: seafoid on July 06, 2021, 11:40:43 AM
In 2017 Roscommon won the Under-17 Connacht final against their team. Three years later they were annihilated in the Under-20 final. And Galway got those five central players - the Kelly brothers, Tierney, Sean Mulkerrin and Dylan McHugh from that group. Roscommon had zero players on the match day 26 on Sunday.
His research is poor there. Sean Kelly, Mulkerrin, Dylan McHugh was not on the Galway u20 team last year they are all older than that.
Matthew Tierney was on the Galway U17 team in 2017 none of the rest was.
2 cliches spring to mind.
Paper never refused ink and
Don't let the facts get in the way
Very very poor stuff from McStay (Finnerty & O'Laoi are younger then McHugh & Sean Kelly) although its bizare that Roscommon a county with a smaller playing population then most don't have a player from their u17 side that reached the AI final that year. Any on the bench?
Galway only had 4 starters from the 2019 Connacht final that started last Sunday, that's one hell of a change.
Galway didn't do as well under their own longer kickouts as I'd have expected although reckon they won more then they lost overall. Sean Kelly excellent as usual, Molloy showing signs that he looks comfortable at this level and a very good 2nd half form McHugh after an average 1st half. Good to get a result without Conroy, Walsh & Comer contributing heavily. Tierney & Paul Kelly both look more than comfortable at this level. I doubt Paul Kelly will be allowed to play for the u20's against Mayo next week, wonder will Culhane be allowed? Forgot about Cathal Sweeney too. They'd be huge losses to the team.
Galway going to have to play a lot better to beat Mayo, can't afford to defend like they did in that first half which was pathetic stuff; Defending in the 2nd half a lot better. Its a shame that it doesn't look like John Daly will play any part, his recovery from this injury is taking a long time.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 06, 2021, 01:52:44 PM
Very very poor stuff from McStay (Finnerty & O'Laoi are younger then McHugh & Sean Kelly) although its bizare that Roscommon a county with a smaller playing population then most don't have a player from their u17 side that reached the AI final that year. Any on the bench?
Galway only had 4 starters from the 2019 Connacht final that started last Sunday, that's one hell of a change.
Galway didn't do as well under their own longer kickouts as I'd have expected although reckon they won more then they lost overall. Sean Kelly excellent as usual, Molloy showing signs that he looks comfortable at this level and a very good 2nd half form McHugh after an average 1st half. Good to get a result without Conroy, Walsh & Comer contributing heavily. Tierney & Paul Kelly both look more than comfortable at this level. I doubt Paul Kelly will be allowed to play for the u20's against Mayo next week, wonder will Culhane be allowed? Forgot about Cathal Sweeney too. They'd be huge losses to the team.
Galway going to have to play a lot better to beat Mayo, can't afford to defend like they did in that first half which was pathetic stuff; Defending in the 2nd half a lot better. Its a shame that it doesn't look like John Daly will play any part, his recovery from this injury is taking a long time.
Injuries, retirements and players opting out has played its part there.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2021, 01:17:49 PM
2 cliches spring to mind.
Paper never refused ink and
Don't let the facts get in the way
That's typical. Focus on a mistake.The argument in the article is bang on
Football is a mess
We had years of if gurus in the media ochóning "Fixtures are a n
mess" but not 1 offering any possible solution.
Now that that's been put to bed it's Football (inter Co) is a mess but again not a solution offered.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 06, 2021, 11:51:47 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 06, 2021, 11:40:43 AM
In 2017 Roscommon won the Under-17 Connacht final against their team. Three years later they were annihilated in the Under-20 final. And Galway got those five central players - the Kelly brothers, Tierney, Sean Mulkerrin and Dylan McHugh from that group. Roscommon had zero players on the match day 26 on Sunday.
His research is poor there. Sean Kelly, Mulkerrin, Dylan McHugh was not on the Galway u20 team last year they are all older than that.
Matthew Tierney was on the Galway U17 team in 2017 none of the rest was.
Was just going to post the same. A bit of basic research would have told him that. Sean Kelly is 4 years older than Paul ffs.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 06, 2021, 01:52:44 PM
Very very poor stuff from McStay (Finnerty & O'Laoi are younger then McHugh & Sean Kelly) although its bizare that Roscommon a county with a smaller playing population then most don't have a player from their u17 side that reached the AI final that year. Any on the bench?
Galway only had 4 starters from the 2019 Connacht final that started last Sunday, that's one hell of a change.
Galway didn't do as well under their own longer kickouts as I'd have expected although reckon they won more then they lost overall. Sean Kelly excellent as usual, Molloy showing signs that he looks comfortable at this level and a very good 2nd half form McHugh after an average 1st half. Good to get a result without Conroy, Walsh & Comer contributing heavily. Tierney & Paul Kelly both look more than comfortable at this level. I doubt Paul Kelly will be allowed to play for the u20's against Mayo next week, wonder will Culhane be allowed? Forgot about Cathal Sweeney too. They'd be huge losses to the team.
Galway going to have to play a lot better to beat Mayo, can't afford to defend like they did in that first half which was pathetic stuff; Defending in the 2nd half a lot better. Its a shame that it doesn't look like John Daly will play any part, his recovery from this injury is taking a long time.
Paul Kelly and Cathal Sweeney are ineligible having played on Sunday. I assume Tomo wasn't used on Sunday because of the upcoming u20 game.
He would be ahead of Costello in the pecking order of forward subs I would imagine.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2021, 03:19:23 PM
We had years of if gurus in the media ochóning "Fixtures are a n
mess" but not 1 offering any possible solution.
Now that that's been put to bed it's Football (inter Co) is a mess but again not a solution offered.
It's going to have to involve money. Ros have very little compared to Dublin.
After that the choices come down to amalgamating counties or dividing Dublin into 5 counties....
I would prefer the latter.
MacHale park chosen as a test event. 3,750 will be at the Mayo v Leitrim game on Sunday now instead of 500. The plan is to have 5,000 at Connacht final will be some mad rush for tickets.
Quote from: seafoid on July 06, 2021, 02:28:08 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2021, 01:17:49 PM
2 cliches spring to mind.
Paper never refused ink and
Don't let the facts get in the way
That's typical. Focus on a mistake.The argument in the article is bang on
Football is a mess
Football might be a mess, but Roscommon should be able to match Galway.
Galway are no world beaters, liable to implode when the pressure comes on.
Mayo v Leitrim tickets on sale now.
https://am.ticketmaster.com/gaa/cfsf1107
Mayo camp hit by covid, some players isolating after being close contacts with a confirmed case 😥
Quote from: Tubberman on July 08, 2021, 09:54:25 PM
Mayo camp hit by covid, some players isolating after being close contacts with a confirmed case 😥
A spokesman for Mayo GAA has confirmed to The Connaught Telegraph that a statement on the matter will be made by the organisation tomorrow.
It is understood a number of squad members have been in isolation as a result of being in close contact with a person who tested positive for the virus.
jeez ill never understand why most of us hear these rumours long before it comes , next thing ya know we will be told leroy is out for the season .
Quote from: Tubberman on July 08, 2021, 09:54:25 PM
Mayo camp hit by covid, some players isolating after being close contacts with a confirmed case 😥
FFS.
Quote from: larryin89 on July 08, 2021, 10:27:22 PM
jeez ill never understand why most of us hear these rumours long before it comes , ]next thing ya know we will be told leroy is out for the season
That rumour is shoulder injury in training, not confirmed by the media yet though
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0709/1234028-mayo-working-with-hse-on-covid-19-issue/
I'm hearing one is a prominent member of the team. Not going to name names for obvious reasons.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 09, 2021, 10:31:16 AM
I'm hearing one is a prominent member of the team. Not going to name names for obvious reasons.
No harm to give the other lad a game though...
If it was a Connacht final or an AISF I'd say they'd have said nothing.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 09, 2021, 11:00:30 AM
If it was a Connacht final or an AISF I'd say they'd have said nothing.
Nah, someone would let something outta the bag locally and it would spread like wildflower anyways.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 09, 2021, 11:27:31 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 09, 2021, 11:00:30 AM
If it was a Connacht final or an AISF I'd say they'd have said nothing.
Nah, someone would let something outta the bag locally and it would spread like wildflower anyways.
Connacht people are honest and decent ( even Rhubarbs)
Leitrim team for Sunday.
Brendan Flynn - Leitrim Gaels
Conor Reynolds - Annaduff
Donal Wrynn - Fenagh St Caillin’s
Oisín Madden - Mohill
Cillian McGloin - Melvin Gaels
Paddy Maguire - Glencar/Manorhamilton
David Bruen - Leitrim Gaels
Jack Gilheany - Fenagh St Caillin’s
Mark Plunkett - Aughawillan
Conor Dolan - Glencar/Manorhamilton
Shane Moran - Ballinamore Sean O’Heslins
Tom Prior - Ballinamore Sean O’Heslins
Darragh Rooney - Melvin Gaels
Keith Beirne - Mohill
Shane Quinn - Mohill
Mayo
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E52XPRVXMAAtPAp?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 03, 2021, 02:24:55 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on July 02, 2021, 08:41:26 PM
Yeah it was open knowledge Mayo were training through the first lockdown, never mind the second. I could understand PJ making the mistake once but it happening twice is unforgiveable. Even the way he talks about covid in interviews you get the impression he thinks there should be no GAA at all and it's unfair making players play
Aye that's it. Mayo were training during lockdown and Galway weren't
You leave Frankie Dolan in the ha'penny place when it comes to having a chip on your shoulder about Mayo!
Lookey here, after almost causing a mini scandal when the country was wound tighter than a banjo string in December, the same lads at it again. The rules don't apply to some
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-kit-van-banned-for-one-game-after-vehicle-busted-in-covert-operation-against-sligo-40631926.html
Did you get the covid news on whatsapp like everyone else prior or are you still being excluded from the football chats?
If that Mayo team starts as selected it will only be 4 changes to the team from the win over Sligo. One of the 4 is injured and another 1 probably wouldn't have started anyway.
Quote from: Manning18 on July 09, 2021, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 03, 2021, 02:24:55 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on July 02, 2021, 08:41:26 PM
Yeah it was open knowledge Mayo were training through the first lockdown, never mind the second. I could understand PJ making the mistake once but it happening twice is unforgiveable. Even the way he talks about covid in interviews you get the impression he thinks there should be no GAA at all and it's unfair making players play
Aye that's it. Mayo were training during lockdown and Galway weren't
You leave Frankie Dolan in the ha'penny place when it comes to having a chip on your shoulder about Mayo!
Lookey here, after almost causing a mini scandal when the country was wound tighter than a banjo string in December, the same lads at it again. The rules don't apply to some
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-kit-van-banned-for-one-game-after-vehicle-busted-in-covert-operation-against-sligo-40631926.html
Did you get the covid news on whatsapp like everyone else prior or are you still being excluded from the football chats?
Cant wait to bate ye
Quote from: Manning18 on July 09, 2021, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 03, 2021, 02:24:55 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on July 02, 2021, 08:41:26 PM
Yeah it was open knowledge Mayo were training through the first lockdown, never mind the second. I could understand PJ making the mistake once but it happening twice is unforgiveable. Even the way he talks about covid in interviews you get the impression he thinks there should be no GAA at all and it's unfair making players play
Aye that's it. Mayo were training during lockdown and Galway weren't
You leave Frankie Dolan in the ha'penny place when it comes to having a chip on your shoulder about Mayo!
Lookey here, after almost causing a mini scandal when the country was wound tighter than a banjo string in December, the same lads at it again. The rules don't apply to some
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-kit-van-banned-for-one-game-after-vehicle-busted-in-covert-operation-against-sligo-40631926.html
Did you get the covid news on whatsapp like everyone else prior or are you still being excluded from the football chats?
And what the hell is wrong not being in a WhatsApp chat? I for one amn't in any.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 09, 2021, 01:41:38 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on July 09, 2021, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 03, 2021, 02:24:55 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on July 02, 2021, 08:41:26 PM
Yeah it was open knowledge Mayo were training through the first lockdown, never mind the second. I could understand PJ making the mistake once but it happening twice is unforgiveable. Even the way he talks about covid in interviews you get the impression he thinks there should be no GAA at all and it's unfair making players play
Aye that's it. Mayo were training during lockdown and Galway weren't
You leave Frankie Dolan in the ha'penny place when it comes to having a chip on your shoulder about Mayo!
Lookey here, after almost causing a mini scandal when the country was wound tighter than a banjo string in December, the same lads at it again. The rules don't apply to some
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-kit-van-banned-for-one-game-after-vehicle-busted-in-covert-operation-against-sligo-40631926.html
Did you get the covid news on whatsapp like everyone else prior or are you still being excluded from the football chats?
And what the hell is wrong not being in a WhatsApp chat? I for one amn't in any.
He was trying to goade me saying I was making stuff up. As I said to him already any lad at all with his ear in any football circles knew Mayo were training during both lockdowns, it was common knowledge and they said as much to Croke park after lockdown one. No big deal but toys were thrown simply because it was mentioned
Quote from: larryin89 on July 09, 2021, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on July 09, 2021, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 03, 2021, 02:24:55 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on July 02, 2021, 08:41:26 PM
Yeah it was open knowledge Mayo were training through the first lockdown, never mind the second. I could understand PJ making the mistake once but it happening twice is unforgiveable. Even the way he talks about covid in interviews you get the impression he thinks there should be no GAA at all and it's unfair making players play
Aye that's it. Mayo were training during lockdown and Galway weren't
You leave Frankie Dolan in the ha'penny place when it comes to having a chip on your shoulder about Mayo!
Lookey here, after almost causing a mini scandal when the country was wound tighter than a banjo string in December, the same lads at it again. The rules don't apply to some
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-kit-van-banned-for-one-game-after-vehicle-busted-in-covert-operation-against-sligo-40631926.html
Did you get the covid news on whatsapp like everyone else prior or are you still being excluded from the football chats?
Cant wait to bate ye
As long as its by fair means this year Larry nobody will get too upset. The roll of honour won't be changing afterwards, so take any small victories you can get. A right good game between the teams and plenty of tickets to go around would be a good tonic
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 09, 2021, 10:31:16 AM
I'm hearing one is a prominent member of the team. Not going to name names for obvious reasons.
Doesn't much matter for this game anyway as ye will win it handy.
With numbers creeping up now though - the fear is it could have a big effect come the business end (akin to the u20 AI semi finals last year).
Mayo team for Sunday:
1. Rory Byrne (Castlebar Mitchels),
2. Enda Hession (Garrymore),
3. Padraig O'Hora (Ballina Stephenites),
4. Michael Plunkett (Ballintubber),
5. Paddy Durcan (Castlebar Mitchels),
6. Oisín Mullin (Kilmaine),
7. Eoghan McLaughlin (Westport),
8. Matthew Ruane (Breaffy),
9. Stephen Coen (Hollymount/Carramore),
10. Conor Loftus (Crossmolina Deel Rovers),
11. Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy),
12. Bryan Walsh (Ballintubber),
13. Tommy Conroy (The Neale),
14. Darren McHale (Knockmore),
15. Ryan O'Donoghue (Belmullet)
Keegan injured his shoulder during the week and Diarmuid O'Connor is till out with his hamstring so Hennelly, McLoughlin, Brickenden and Jordan Flynn could be close contacts of the covid case???
Colm Keys said there will be more Covid testing of the panel today so there might be a few more changes depending on results.
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 09, 2021, 02:30:24 PM
Colm Keys said there will be more Covid testing of the panel today so there might be a few more changes depending on results.
That makes sense to catch everyone in the outbreak.
Any news folks ? Plenty of rumour that's for sure
It's been a really poor championship overall so far. I don't know how Sky are suppose to bill up Mayo v Leitrim. The Sky interviewer asking Donaghy how he thought Mayo v leitrim would go, a pointless question.
This is heading for a 20 point win for Mayo. Leading 7-1 after 17 minutes.
Depressing stuff the gap between Leitrim & Mayo is huge. Thinking about switching over to Netflix or going for a cycle or something. Feed up of the mis matches.
1-10 to 1 now, 24mins gone
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2021, 02:20:36 PM
This is heading for a 20 point win for Mayo. Leading 7-1 after 17 minutes.
Did anyone expect anything else? It's like a senior team playing a junior team.
Mayo are hoors for tactical fouling. Fair enough against the bigger teams but Leitrim ffs.
should their be a mercy rule
Will someone tell those shower of c%nts to ease up. They have no mercy.
HT Mayo:3-11 Leitrim 0-4
Good to see Leitrim not playing defensive football, fair play
The Intercounty system has told us all its ever going to tell us.
This is hard viewing. Could go down as the biggest miss match of all time
Div 4 and div 3 teams should not be playing to win Sam... embarrassing
Mayo might come undone by the ease in which they have won.
is the GAA obsession with imaginary borders holding the game back (i know counties are based on imaginary borders too)
QuoteMayo might come undone by the ease in which they have won.
Why?
Quote from: highorlow on July 11, 2021, 03:08:02 PM
QuoteMayo might come undone by the ease in which they have won.
Why?
Because they have been pissing all over teams in division two that aren't going anywhere. In the championship they have played nobody. Galway have at least played division one teams they have had a tougher championship game against Roscommon. Mayo haven't been tested yet this season and Galway might catch them.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2021, 03:02:46 PM
Div 4 and div 3 teams should not be playing to win Sam... embarrassing
Pat Spillane was a joke at half time and fair play to Sean Cavanagh for calling him on it. Pat's simple plan is give more money to Leitrim and they'll improve. As Sean pointed out you could give counties like Carlow, Leitrm and Wicklow millions and they still won't win Sam
Quote from: dublin7 on July 11, 2021, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2021, 03:02:46 PM
Div 4 and div 3 teams should not be playing to win Sam... embarrassing
Pat Spillane was a joke at half time and fair play to Sean Cavanagh for calling him on it. Pat's simple plan is give more money to Leitrim and they'll improve. As Sean pointed out you could give counties like Carlow, Leitrm and Wicklow millions and they still won't win Sam
I didn't hear him say that. He thought the problem was Leitrim didn't play enough games in order to improve
Quote from: dublin7 on July 11, 2021, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2021, 03:02:46 PM
Div 4 and div 3 teams should not be playing to win Sam... embarrassing
Pat Spillane was a joke at half time and fair play to Sean Cavanagh for calling him on it. Pat's simple plan is give more money to Leitrim and they'll improve. As Sean pointed out you could give counties like Carlow, Leitrm and Wicklow millions and they still won't win Sam
Yeah you're right, better keep giving Dublin all that money instead, they need it so badly like.
Quote from: caprea on July 11, 2021, 03:28:03 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 11, 2021, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2021, 03:02:46 PM
Div 4 and div 3 teams should not be playing to win Sam... embarrassing
Pat Spillane was a joke at half time and fair play to Sean Cavanagh for calling him on it. Pat's simple plan is give more money to Leitrim and they'll improve. As Sean pointed out you could give counties like Carlow, Leitrm and Wicklow millions and they still won't win Sam
I didn't hear him say that. He thought the problem was Leitrim didn't play enough games in order to improve
Would they not play as many as Mayo leading up to this game?
i think spillane called for provincial round robins
I'd imagine Leitrim GAA wouldn't turn down the likes of the €13million 4 x floodlight pitch including one as a 4g pitch that Dublin GAA are about to build in tyrellstown (old hollystown golf club).
Quote from: highorlow on July 11, 2021, 03:36:43 PM
I'd imagine Leitrim GAA wouldn't turn down the likes of the €13million 4 x floodlight pitch including one as a 4g pitch that Dublin GAA are about to build in tyrellstown (old hollystown golf club).
Would they win Sam if they did get it?
QuoteWould they win Sam if they did get it?
And your point is?
I watched 5 minutes of that game and Leitrim weren't exactly throwing themselves in front of shots.
Expected mismatch Mayo 5-20 Leitrim 0-11
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2021, 03:38:42 PM
Quote from: highorlow on July 11, 2021, 03:36:43 PM
I'd imagine Leitrim GAA wouldn't turn down the likes of the €13million 4 x floodlight pitch including one as a 4g pitch that Dublin GAA are about to build in tyrellstown (old hollystown golf club).
Would they win Sam if they did get it?
Is that the bar for getting assistance with infrastructure?
Quote from: J70 on July 11, 2021, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2021, 03:38:42 PM
Quote from: highorlow on July 11, 2021, 03:36:43 PM
I'd imagine Leitrim GAA wouldn't turn down the likes of the €13million 4 x floodlight pitch including one as a 4g pitch that Dublin GAA are about to build in tyrellstown (old hollystown golf club).
Would they win Sam if they did get it?
Is that the bar for getting assistance with infrastructure?
Of course counties should get funding, but at least give them a competition they have a chance to compete in and maybe win.
Quote from: highorlow on July 11, 2021, 03:40:07 PM
QuoteWould they win Sam if they did get it?
And your point is?
You made the point that Dublin is getting this new complex, it wouldn't matter if Leitrim had this times two, they don't have the numbers to get any use out of it. I've said before all counties should have these complex's and based on playing numbers
It will and won't make a div 4 team win Sam.
It's very simple, div3 and div 4 play their own championship and when they win that they prove themselves in the bigger championship. Anyone that thinks today's game is serving a purpose for either team is thick
Quote from: Solo_run on July 11, 2021, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: highorlow on July 11, 2021, 03:08:02 PM
QuoteMayo might come undone by the ease in which they have won.
Why?
Because they have been pissing all over teams in division two that aren't going anywhere. In the championship they have played nobody. Galway have at least played division one teams they have had a tougher championship game against Roscommon. Mayo haven't been tested yet this season and Galway might catch them.
That's my big concern. Whoever won between Galway and Ros would be looking at our inefficiencies.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2021, 03:40:38 PM
Expected mismatch Mayo 5-20 Leitrim 0-11
And some floorts think this is the best system ::)
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 11, 2021, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on July 11, 2021, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: highorlow on July 11, 2021, 03:08:02 PM
QuoteMayo might come undone by the ease in which they have won.
Why?
Because they have been pissing all over teams in division two that aren't going anywhere. In the championship they have played nobody. Galway have at least played division one teams they have had a tougher championship game against Roscommon. Mayo haven't been tested yet this season and Galway might catch them.
That's my big concern. Whoever won between Galway and Ros would be looking at our inefficiencies.
Side with the biggest concern will be Galway. Less than convincing in that win against Roscommon and main player Shane Walsh even if he plays won't be 100%
Sad but true
Leitrim's 1994 Connacht title is the equal of anything Mayo have achieved since.
Quote from: seafoid on July 11, 2021, 04:53:48 PM
Sad but true
Leitrim's 1994 Connacht title is the equal of anything Mayo have achieved since.
Nothing sad about that. Great achievement by that Leitrim team.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2021, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2021, 03:40:38 PM
Expected mismatch Mayo 5-20 Leitrim 0-11
And some floorts think this is the best system ::)
It's not clear it isn't. An open national draw will still produce uncompetitive hidings.
A senior, intermediate and junior championship could kill interest among players in weaker counties as they never again will get the chance to test themselves against the best players.
Eventually the Intercounty system will be abandoned.
Quote from: caprea on July 11, 2021, 06:04:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2021, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2021, 03:40:38 PM
Expected mismatch Mayo 5-20 Leitrim 0-11
And some floorts think this is the best system ::)
It's not clear it isn't. An open national draw will still produce uncompetitive hidings.
A senior, intermediate and junior championship could kill interest among players in weaker counties as they never again will get the chance to test themselves against the best players.
Eventually the Intercounty system will be abandoned.
See result today for why we shouldnt have the weakest teams playing the strongest counties just to test themselves. Nobody wins
Quote from: Nanderson on July 11, 2021, 06:13:33 PM
Quote from: caprea on July 11, 2021, 06:04:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2021, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2021, 03:40:38 PM
Expected mismatch Mayo 5-20 Leitrim 0-11
And some floorts think this is the best system ::)
It's not clear it isn't. An open national draw will still produce uncompetitive hidings.
A senior, intermediate and junior championship could kill interest among players in weaker counties as they never again will get the chance to test themselves against the best players.
Eventually the Intercounty system will be abandoned.
See result today for why we shouldnt have the weakest teams playing the strongest counties just to test themselves. Nobody wins
That would mean last years munster final result could never happen. It would hurt weaker countries not help.
My main point is that Intercounty has run its course. Kerry and Dublin won Intercounty football historically and they are still the two with the only realistic hopes of winning Sam for this year and next.
I don't think the Leitrim and Sligo lads were too interested in testing themselves when the draw was made.
Their thoughts turned to 2022 immediately.
Whatever about other weaker teams testing themselves against better teams Leitrim was in no position to do it. They had rotten form in Div 4, no win and conceded 22 points per game. The comments by Hyland before the game more or less confimed they did little preparation for league or championship year.
Mayo on the other hand are flying fit and in the terms of strength and conditioning they look ready to give Dublin another rattle providing they beat Galway first.
When is that special Congrss? October presumably?
Quote from: caprea on July 11, 2021, 06:04:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2021, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2021, 03:40:38 PM
Expected mismatch Mayo 5-20 Leitrim 0-11
And some floorts think this is the best system ::)
It's not clear it isn't. An open national draw will still produce uncompetitive hidings.
A senior, intermediate and junior championship could kill interest among players in weaker counties as they never again will get the chance to test themselves against the best players.
Eventually the Intercounty system will be abandoned.
That is true but with an open national draw they might get to a quarter final with luck of the draw but will probably get a hammering then
If intercounty was abolished would that kill of the GAA as most casuals only follow counties .Personally i am looking forward to club championships hopefully rte and tg4 show a lot of games.
Quote from: Eire90 on July 11, 2021, 07:00:37 PM
If intercounty was abolished would that kill of the GAA as most casuals only follow counties .Personally i am looking forward to club championships hopefully rte and tg4 show a lot of games.
A lot of casuals are there for the pints and the day out and a bit of excitement.
19 teams gone from the championship after today.
All 7 Division 4 teams.
All 8 Division 3 teams.
3 Division 2 teams - 2 of these were losses to Division 1 teams and the other loss was to a Division 2 team.
1 Division 1 team - lost to another Division 1 team.
Even after today's 1 pointer, the average winning margin was 12 points. The mean winning margin was 11 points.
I was looking at the results of the McDonagh Cup and the difference when teams are playing against opposition of a similar level is stark.
One of the groups in the Joe McDonagh ended up with 3 teams all on 2 points, then Down and Kerry were level on scoring difference of +2 and on their total scored over 2 games (both on 54 points) Kerry will play in the final because they scored 3 goals to Down's 2. In the other group Westmeath won 2 games, Carlow one and Kildare lost both. Carlow's win over Kildare was only after extra-time and Westmeath's win over Kildare was only by a point. Average winning margin 4.5 points ; mean winning margin 4.5 points [this is based on the result after extra time in the drawn game]
Hows about 11 teams at senior level, 11 at intermediate, 10 at junior. Each team plays each other once. Top team plays 4th team in All Ireland semi, 2 plays 3. 2 promoted, 2 relegated. Bit like inter county club scene. Scrap provincial series, fbd etc. More time for clubs league, championship too.
A team like Leitrim could possibly win the Junior championship, Down or Derry win the Intermediate & use this as a springboard to move up the ranks. A ban on collective inter county training for a 6 month time frame.
Quote from: Rudi on July 11, 2021, 08:42:24 PM
Hows about 11 teams at senior level, 11 at intermediate, 10 at junior. Each team plays each other once. Top team plays 4th team in All Ireland semi, 2 plays 3. 2 promoted, 2 relegated. Bit like inter county club scene. Scrap provincial series, fbd etc. More time for clubs league, championship too.
A team like Leitrim could possibly win the Junior championship, Down or Derry win the Intermediate & use this as a springboard to move up the ranks. A ban on collective inter county training for a 6 month time frame.
I've said that on here a few times. It's perfect at club level. No reason it wouldn't work well at county.
Bans on collective training a non runner as they only help create a bigger gap. Some counties will get to breach it, and others won't be allowed by there county boards. Look at Derry training collectively right through covid since October compared to some
Others that didn't start training until April . Big part of Derry's success this year
Quote from: the goal was on on July 11, 2021, 10:01:16 PM
Bans on collective training a non runner as they only help create a bigger gap. Some counties will get to breach it, and others won't be allowed by there county boards. Look at Derry training collectively right through covid since October compared to some
Others that didn't start training until April . Big part of Derry's success this year
Serious financial fine or outright year ban would fix that. The Gaa are incredibly lenient in that regard. Derry looked well coached & intensity levels were impressive today, could very well be down to what you have said.
You got proof of that?
Quote from: Rudi on July 11, 2021, 08:42:24 PM
Hows about 11 teams at senior level, 11 at intermediate, 10 at junior. Each team plays each other once. Top team plays 4th team in All Ireland semi, 2 plays 3. 2 promoted, 2 relegated. Bit like inter county club scene. Scrap provincial series, fbd etc. More time for clubs league, championship too.
A team like Leitrim could possibly win the Junior championship, Down or Derry win the Intermediate & use this as a springboard to move up the ranks. A ban on collective inter county training for a 6 month time frame.
You were going well there till the last sentence ;D
Seeing as a scatter of Counties allegedly broke a training ban during a pandemic no hope of them complying with a ban.
And sure if they're found out the manager might get suspended.
Quote from: Rudi on July 11, 2021, 08:42:24 PM
Hows about 11 teams at senior level, 11 at intermediate, 10 at junior. Each team plays each other once. Top team plays 4th team in All Ireland semi, 2 plays 3. 2 promoted, 2 relegated. Bit like inter county club scene. Scrap provincial series, fbd etc. More time for clubs league, championship too.
A team like Leitrim could possibly win the Junior championship, Down or Derry win the Intermediate & use this as a springboard to move up the ranks. A ban on collective inter county training for a 6 month time frame.
I would go with top 6 teams into playoff top 2 bye into semis
Quote from: Rudi on July 11, 2021, 08:42:24 PM
Hows about 11 teams at senior level, 11 at intermediate, 10 at junior. Each team plays each other once. Top team plays 4th team in All Ireland semi, 2 plays 3. 2 promoted, 2 relegated. Bit like inter county club scene. Scrap provincial series, fbd etc. More time for clubs league, championship too.
A team like Leitrim could possibly win the Junior championship, Down or Derry win the Intermediate & use this as a springboard to move up the ranks. A ban on collective inter county training for a 6 month time frame.
This is a suggestion worthy of consideration IMO.
Especially given all the current hand-wringing about teams not having had a proper opportunity to work on developing their squads and tactics due to the restrictions of this season and last.
Guaranteed ten games, at something like your actual level, with the carrot of promotion to the next level for next year, as well as knock-out stage and trophy for the current?
Quote from: J70 on July 12, 2021, 01:41:35 PM
Quote from: Rudi on July 11, 2021, 08:42:24 PM
Hows about 11 teams at senior level, 11 at intermediate, 10 at junior. Each team plays each other once. Top team plays 4th team in All Ireland semi, 2 plays 3. 2 promoted, 2 relegated. Bit like inter county club scene. Scrap provincial series, fbd etc. More time for clubs league, championship too.
A team like Leitrim could possibly win the Junior championship, Down or Derry win the Intermediate & use this as a springboard to move up the ranks. A ban on collective inter county training for a 6 month time frame.
This is a suggestion worthy of consideration IMO.
Especially given all the current hand-wringing about teams not having had a proper opportunity to work on developing their squads and tactics due to the restrictions of this season and last.
Guaranteed ten games, at something like your actual level, with the carrot of promotion to the next level for next year, as well as knock-out stage and trophy for the current?
It's not new, this is the way the clubs work within each county, inter county hurling & ladies football. I'm taking an U15 team at the moment, we have 3 divisions to cater for different standards within our county championship. A club team winning an intermediate or junior championship is a big deal, should be at county too, if its marketed & done right. At the moment the powers that be seem only interested in the elite.
If there is a Second or even a Third tier competition, it will only be there to get these counties out of the way.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 12, 2021, 06:40:14 PM
If there is a Second or even a Third tier competition, it will only be there to get these counties out of the way.
As opposed to the farces we've been treated to so far?
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 12, 2021, 06:40:14 PM
If there is a Second or even a Third tier competition, it will only be there to get these counties out of the way.
Well it's not like it's they get any benefit out of the current system.
One argument put against a tiered championship is the lack of media coverage for smaller counties. Tomas O'Se was writing in the Indo on Saturday how so many teams are out already and the only coverage they got on the Sunday Game was a few short sentences as a quick summing up. For teams like Leitrim and Sligo having their games against Mayo on tv only makes the humiliation worse and is more likely to put off young kids watching from playing for their county
Quote from: dublin7 on July 12, 2021, 06:52:07 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 12, 2021, 06:40:14 PM
If there is a Second or even a Third tier competition, it will only be there to get these counties out of the way.
Well it's not like it's they get any benefit out of the current system.
If it weren't for Covid and the Tailteann Cup was running, the following teams would be in it this year.
Laois
Limerick
Fermanagh
Longford
Wicklow
Cavan
Tipperary
Antrim
Louth
Carlow
Sligo
Waterford
Wexford
Leitrim
London
Westmeath - if they get to the Leinster final, they would go into the "senior" qualifiers [assuming they don't win the Leinster final]
Either 15 or 16 teams depending on how Westmeath do, which would mean either 14 or 15 games [assuming extra-time/finish on the day] over 4 weekends to get a winner.
The vast majority of the games would probably be seriously competitive - you might get some hammerings but I'd imagine overall there would be a lot less compared to the results against Division 1 and Division 2 teams in the qualifiers.[ Look at the margins in Division 3 and Divison 4 over the years to see how competitive the games would likely be] There would be stronger teams and weaker teams but I'd imagine before the draw was made you'd have most of the players in most of the squads thinking - we have a chance to win this. Even those on the weakest teams would be thinking - if we get a kind draw we might win a game or two - which mightn't sound like much but if you've gone a number of years without a championship win as has happened to a couple of counties, you'd take any sort of championship win.
Cavan and Tipp wouldn't have been in it this year.
The GAA had decided to exempt them for winning Ulster and Munster last year.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 12, 2021, 06:40:14 PM
If there is a Second or even a Third tier competition, it will only be there to get these counties out of the way.
Another way to do it would be to have a mixture of counties and amalgamations in the all Ireland. You would also have to split Dublin into 5 or 6 teams.
Leutrim won't beat Mayo but an amalgamation of Leitrim, Roscommon and Longford might.
The status quo is broken so it's either Tailteann Cup or something based on population/clubs /playing population that aims for a competitive competition
Connacht final to be switched to Croke Park to allow a decent size crowd to attend?
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 13, 2021, 07:04:06 PM
Connacht final to be switched to Croke Park to allow a decent size crowd to attend?
18,000 according to Herr Prenty.
good idea IMO , although some will complain.
Quote from: fearsiuil on July 13, 2021, 07:44:56 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 13, 2021, 07:04:06 PM
Connacht final to be switched to Croke Park to allow a decent size crowd to attend?
18,000 according to Herr Prenty.
final set for Croke Park and that's the expected crowd.
Play it in wembley, 62000 allowed there, another prenty joke.
Such a stupid idea. We can only have 3500 in MacHale park, yet 18000 people from Galway and Mayo can pack on to buses and trains to Dublin for a match.
These Covid rules don't make much sense.
Quote from: giveballaghback on July 13, 2021, 08:39:44 PM
Play it in wembley, 62000 allowed there, another prenty joke.
Imagine the security issues, those rough hoors from Mayo would make the English hooligans look like choir boys ;D
brilliant idea , john prenty is a legend , i cannot for the life of me understand his critics .have you even seen the dome ?
Quote from: larryin89 on July 13, 2021, 09:37:27 PM
brilliant idea , john prenty is a legend , i cannot for the life of me understand his critics .have you even seen the dome ?
Remains to be seen will it be nothing more than a vanity project.
Switching the Connacht final to Croke Park was a no brainer. Last number of Mayo v Galway championship matches had 20k plus in attendance and it would have been a nightmare for Prenty and Co with just 5,000 tickets to pass around.
Hmmm I think we had a better chance in Castlebar to be honest.
Can't see us winning in Croker.
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 13, 2021, 09:27:18 PM
Such a stupid idea. We can only have 3500 in MacHale park, yet 18000 people from Galway and Mayo can pack on to buses and trains to Dublin for a match.
These Covid rules don't make much sense.
Gives one a sore head trying to understand the logic of some rules.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 13, 2021, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 13, 2021, 09:27:18 PM
Such a stupid idea. We can only have 3500 in MacHale park, yet 18000 people from Galway and Mayo can pack on to buses and trains to Dublin for a match.
These Covid rules don't make much sense.
Gives one a sore head trying to understand the logic of some rules.
size of stadium seems obvious tbh
Quote from: larryin89 on July 13, 2021, 11:02:06 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 13, 2021, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 13, 2021, 09:27:18 PM
Such a stupid idea. We can only have 3500 in MacHale park, yet 18000 people from Galway and Mayo can pack on to buses and trains to Dublin for a match.
These Covid rules don't make much sense.
Gives one a sore head trying to understand the logic of some rules.
size of stadium seems obvious tbh
Packed buses and trains to Dublin would be the issue, remember we were told by NPHET the problem isn't the crowd inside stadiums but what happens before and after the match.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 13, 2021, 11:08:22 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on July 13, 2021, 11:02:06 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 13, 2021, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 13, 2021, 09:27:18 PM
Such a stupid idea. We can only have 3500 in MacHale park, yet 18000 people from Galway and Mayo can pack on to buses and trains to Dublin for a match.
These Covid rules don't make much sense.
Gives one a sore head trying to understand the logic of some rules.
size of stadium seems obvious tbh
Packed buses and trains to Dublin would be the issue, remember we were told by NPHET the problem isn't the crowd inside stadiums but what happens before and after the match.
Mayo could probably fill their allocation just with their Dublin based supporters
Quote from: galwayman on July 13, 2021, 10:37:54 PM
Hmmm I think we had a better chance in Castlebar to be honest.
Can't see us winning in Croker.
I imagine Mayo are happy enough alright. They've a great recent record in CP (Dublin apart) while Galway have always had a decent record up in Castlebar.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 13, 2021, 11:08:22 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on July 13, 2021, 11:02:06 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 13, 2021, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 13, 2021, 09:27:18 PM
Such a stupid idea. We can only have 3500 in MacHale park, yet 18000 people from Galway and Mayo can pack on to buses and trains to Dublin for a match.
These Covid rules don't make much sense.
packed buses and trains are not permitted either .
social distancing is at 2m .
mchale park is allowed 3500 .
most complaining wouldnt get a ticket and most infuriating aspect to me is the ones complaining didnt bother their holes last sunday whilst there were people like myself went to the bother of taxi into heuston and train to castlebar . left malahide in dublin at 6:30 am , then discovered we had to get bus transfer to portarlington . and to think these absolute hypocrites were sat on their couch 20 miles down the rd and coulnt be arsed cause it was raining and them starting a castlebar or nowhere this evening . f...ing Irish
Gives one a sore head trying to understand the logic of some rules.
size of stadium seems obvious tbh
Packed buses and trains to Dublin would be the issue, remember we were told by NPHET the problem isn't the crowd inside stadiums but what happens before and after the match.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 13, 2021, 11:22:30 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 13, 2021, 10:37:54 PM
Hmmm I think we had a better chance in Castlebar to be honest.
Can't see us winning in Croker.
I imagine Mayo are happy enough alright. They've a great recent record in CP (Dublin apart) while Galway have always had a decent record up in Castlebar.
Mayo will be thrilled with this move, up to Galway to step it up now, Mayo will perform well in CP.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 13, 2021, 11:08:22 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on July 13, 2021, 11:02:06 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 13, 2021, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 13, 2021, 09:27:18 PM
Such a stupid idea. We can only have 3500 in MacHale park, yet 18000 people from Galway and Mayo can pack on to buses and trains to Dublin for a match.
These Covid rules don't make much sense.
Gives one a sore head trying to understand the logic of some rules.
size of stadium seems obvious tbh
Packed buses and trains to Dublin would be the issue, remember we were told by NPHET the problem isn't the crowd inside stadiums but what happens before and after the match.
Only 50% capacity allowed ;)
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 12, 2021, 06:40:14 PM
If there is a Second or even a Third tier competition, it will only be there to get these counties out of the way.
Football's biggest problem is the lack of competition. This is a curse. Dublin.or Kerry is Cholera or the Plague.
When will we see Sam up.North again ?
https://youtu.be/Jwv2B4W9brk
Then the county system. Dublin is c 40 times bigger than Leitrim. If Dublin leverages its population and financial power the system doesn't work.
For most counties the Disposable Heroes quote applies :
"The height of mediocrity is the challenge
Crawling through the entrails of imbalance."
https://youtu.be/kqB-wf49Xsc
Shunting D3 and 4 into another competition won't fix the problems.
Dublin has to be subdivided. I also think smaller counties should amalgamate for championship only.
https://www.northernsun.com/Organize-Button-%280332%29.html
Quote from: seafoid on July 14, 2021, 08:01:15 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 12, 2021, 06:40:14 PM
If there is a Second or even a Third tier competition, it will only be there to get these counties out of the way.
Football's biggest problem is the lack of competition. This is a curse. Dublin.or Kerry is Cholera or the Plague.
When will we see Sam up.North again ?
https://youtu.be/Jwv2B4W9brk
Then the county system. Dublin is c 40 times bigger than Leitrim. If Dublin leverages its population and financial power the system doesn't work.
For most counties the Disposable Heroes quote applies :
"The height of mediocrity is the challenge
Crawling through the entrails of imbalance."
https://youtu.be/kqB-wf49Xsc
Shunting D3 and 4 into another competition won't fix the problems.
Dublin has to be subdivided. I also think smaller counties should amalgamate for championship only.
https://www.northernsun.com/Organize-Button-%280332%29.html
If only there was a really successful model somewhere in the gaa whereby tams are placed in tiers based on their ability and can compete against similar standard teams.
Once again the GAA put the people first and show they are of the people.
Fair dues!
IF I get a ticket and IF I go then I'll drive.
Just logged on to ticketmaster GAA section, 1,008 in front of me in the queue. What time are the tickets on sale at??
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 19, 2021, 09:51:02 AM
Just logged on to ticketmaster GAA section, 1,008 in front of me in the queue. What time are the tickets on sale at??
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Quote from: AnGaelGearmanach on July 19, 2021, 10:03:00 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 19, 2021, 09:51:02 AM
Just logged on to ticketmaster GAA section, 1,008 in front of me in the queue. What time are the tickets on sale at??
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incorrect , they are being purchased since 11 am . you really shouldnt ever post such details unless you are certain of correct details
Will the 18,000 sell out, 35 euro for tickets with no discount for OAPs and students will likely turn plenty away.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 19, 2021, 12:18:12 PM
Will the 18,000 sell out, 35 euro for tickets with no discount for OAPs and students will likely turn plenty away.
Will sell out surely. How long has it been since we got to watch an inter-county game at this stage?
Quote from: AnGaelGearmanach on July 19, 2021, 12:20:11 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 19, 2021, 12:18:12 PM
Will the 18,000 sell out, 35 euro for tickets with no discount for OAPs and students will likely turn plenty away.
Will sell out surely. How long has it been since we got to watch an inter-county game at this stage?
I wouldn't bet on it. Seems there have been very disappointing attendances at most other games to date
No single tickets available, only pods of 2/3/4/5. Were there single tickets available when they went on sale?
Quote from: bucko on July 19, 2021, 10:58:41 PM
No single tickets available, only pods of 2/3/4/5. Were there single tickets available when they went on sale?
I don't think so, which is rather unfortunate for the Connacht Council seeing they won't be getting any money from me.
conor lane for sunday
Galways last championship win in Croke Park was against Kerry in 2018.
R Lavelle;
D Kyne, S A O'Ceallaigh, E Kerin;
C Sweeney, G Bradshaw, S Kelly
P Conroy, T Flynn;
E Brannigan, M Daly, J Heaney;
I Burke D Comer S Walsh
Maybe 4 or 5 of that team will start Sunday and a few others on the bench?
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2021, 01:08:26 PM
Galways last championship win in Croke Park was against Kerry in 2018.
R Lavelle;
D Kyne, S A O'Ceallaigh, E Kerin;
C Sweeney, G Bradshaw, S Kelly
P Conroy, T Flynn;
E Brannigan, M Daly, J Heaney;
I Burke D Comer S Walsh
Maybe 4 or 5 of that team will start Sunday and a few others on the bench?
better side than the present one imo
Tickets and any amount of them still on sale .
Bohemians sell out 8k in 90mins.
I love GAA like everyone else on here but the supporter culture would sicken your hole , honestly wait till you see the demand for the semi v dubs if we did happen to win on sunday.
Quote from: larryin89 on July 23, 2021, 11:27:02 AM
Tickets and any amount of them still on sale .
Bohemians sell out 8k in 90mins.
I love GAA like everyone else on here but the supporter culture would sicken your hole , honestly wait till you see the demand for the semi v dubs if we did happen to win on sunday.
Do Mayo people think provincial finals are beneath them or what? I get that it's a long enough jaunt to Croker for ye but surely after a year of not getting to games you's could sell out a limited capacity croker? Especially since you can guarantee an AISF or final will sell out should you get there
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 23, 2021, 11:31:27 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on July 23, 2021, 11:27:02 AM
Tickets and any amount of them still on sale .
Bohemians sell out 8k in 90mins.
I love GAA like everyone else on here but the supporter culture would sicken your hole , honestly wait till you see the demand for the semi v dubs if we did happen to win on sunday.
Do Mayo people think provincial finals are beneath them or what? I get that it's a long enough jaunt to Croker for ye but surely after a year of not getting to games you's could sell out a limited capacity croker? Especially since you can guarantee an AISF or final will sell out should you get there
I think a lot of people have got comfortable watching games on TV. I know a couple of people who were season ticket holders pre Covid and went to every league and championship game. Yet they didn't bother go to the Leitrim game and aren't travelling to croke park this weekend either.
Also the fact there are no kids tickets will rule out a lot of families that would want to go.
Quote from: larryin89 on July 23, 2021, 11:27:02 AM
Tickets and any amount of them still on sale .
Bohemians sell out 8k in 90mins.
I love GAA like everyone else on here but the supporter culture would sicken your hole , honestly wait till you see the demand for the semi v dubs if we did happen to win on sunday.
What price was the Bohemians tickets? Had a feeling the 35€ price would turn plenty away from the Connacht final and especially with no concession for children and OAPs.
And you can only buy "pods" of tickets.
The 2 pods and 3 pods probably all sold.
No family is going to buy a pod of 5 or 6 at €175 or €210. And drive 500kms as well.
The single supporter isn't going to pay for 4,5 or 6 either.
And of course Galway football people aren't noted for big turn outs.
Not to mention a virus circulating like wildfire.
PS no shops/ bars etc will be open in Croke Park.
Galway team v Mayo
Connor Gleeson (Dunmore McHales)
Sean Kelly (Moycullen)
Sean Mulkerrin (Oileain Arann)
Liam Silke (Corofin)
Kieran Molloy (Corofin)
Dylan McHugh (Corofin)
Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
Paul Conroy (St James')
Matthew Tierney (Oughterard)
Damien Comer (Annaghdown)
Peter Cooke (Moycullen)
Cathal Sweeney (Salthill-Knocknacarra)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill-Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Paul Kelly (Moycullen)
Point still stands , cause all the moaning about price etc whilst it is valid the same people wont be bothered about price for the next game again if we did happen to win. It's such a fooking fair weather culture and if you deny that perhaps you dont have the experience of attending games. They are such a fickle bunch in general and not really soulful supporters imo , iys all very blaise win or lose .
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 23, 2021, 12:51:25 PM
Galway team v Mayo
Connor Gleeson (Dunmore McHales)
Sean Kelly (Moycullen)
Sean Mulkerrin (Oileain Arann)
Liam Silke (Corofin)
Kieran Molloy (Corofin)
Dylan McHugh (Corofin)
Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
Paul Conroy (St James')
Matthew Tierney (Oughterard)
Damien Comer (Annaghdown)
Peter Cooke (Moycullen)
Cathal Sweeney (Salthill-Knocknacarra)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill-Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Paul Kelly (Moycullen)
Didn't feature in last years Connacht final. Finnerty and Sweeney with Mayo connections.
Quote from: larryin89 on July 23, 2021, 12:52:02 PM
Point still stands , cause all the moaning about price etc whilst it is valid the same people wont be bothered about price for the next game again if we did happen to win. It's such a fooking fair weather culture and if you deny that perhaps you dont have the experience of attending games. They are such a fickle bunch in general and not really soulful supporters imo , iys all very blaise win or lose .
Mayo fans or fans in general? I'm not going up because nobody in my tiny social bubble will go with me and I'm not paying for 2 tickets.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 23, 2021, 01:33:20 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on July 23, 2021, 12:52:02 PM
Point still stands , cause all the moaning about price etc whilst it is valid the same people wont be bothered about price for the next game again if we did happen to win. It's such a fooking fair weather culture and if you deny that perhaps you dont have the experience of attending games. They are such a fickle bunch in general and not really soulful supporters imo , iys all very blaise win or lose .
Mayo fans or fans in general? I'm not going up because nobody in my tiny social bubble will go with me and I'm not paying for 2 tickets.
Yeah it's a bit shitty that people who would be going to games on their own are effectively excluded unless they buy a second ticket.
Mayo team named. Diarmuid O'Connor is back in. Padraig O'Hora is full back.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 23, 2021, 03:01:50 PM
Mayo team named. Diarmuid O'Connor is back in. Padraig O'Hora is full back.
I'm surprised at eogan mcloughlin not starting ,mind you JH is inclined to make a couple of changes to named team by throw in .
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 23, 2021, 11:48:48 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on July 23, 2021, 11:27:02 AM
Tickets and any amount of them still on sale .
Bohemians sell out 8k in 90mins.
I love GAA like everyone else on here but the supporter culture would sicken your hole , honestly wait till you see the demand for the semi v dubs if we did happen to win on sunday.
What price was the Bohemians tickets? Had a feeling the 35€ price would turn plenty away from the Connacht final and especially with no concession for children and OAPs.
To answer my own question.
(https://i.ibb.co/9ZdL6P8/Screenshot-20210723-155810-2.png) (https://ibb.co/sWXGn7m)
Also they didn't sell single tickets either saying it is to ensure maximum safe capacity, while also adhering to social-distancing requirements.
How many would they sell if the game was 150km+ away?
Probably the week that's in it and the sun, but very low key build up to the Connacht final nationally.
So I went on my once a year visit to mayogaablog to at least see if those strange folk had a bitta discussion. By god anytime you check in on it, they never actually let you down. There's a lad on there complaining about Galway protesting against the 1902 Connacht final. And without even an ounce of self awareness or irony, says that "the Galway delegation didn't turn up for the hearing, not the first time they didn't turn up on the big day". This a county that's failed to win its last 13 finals talking about one that's won the third most All Ireland's.
A quick skim gave plenty of laughs but that's the pick of them. Tommy Tiernan (who's had very interesting views on plain old life living in mayo in recent podcasts) would do well to steer better laughs
Quote from: Manning18 on July 23, 2021, 11:51:50 PM
Probably the week that's in it and the sun, but very low key build up to the Connacht final nationally.
So I went on my once a year visit to mayogaablog to at least see if those strange folk had a bitta discussion. By god anytime you check in on it never actually lets you down. There's a lad on there complaining about Galway protesting against the 1902 Connacht final. And without even an ounce of self awareness or irony, says that "the Galway delegation didn't turn up for the hearing, not the first time they didn't turn up on the big day". This a county that's failed to win its last 13 finals talking about one that's won the third most All Ireland's.
A quick skim gave plenty of laughs but that's the pick of them. Tommy Tiernan (who's had very interesting views on plain old life living in mayo in recent podcasts) would do well to steer better laughs
Throwing stones in glass houses and all that! ::)
29,449 attended the last Mayo v Galway Connacht championship match that had supporters. Now 21 hours before this encounter tickets are still on sale on for a 18,000 capped capacity.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 24, 2021, 03:58:01 PM
29,449 attended the last Mayo v Galway Connacht championship match that had supporters. Now 21 hours before this encounter tickets are still on sale on for a 18,000 capped capacity.
People have better things to be doing than spending the guts of their day travelling to and from Dublin on a nice day. Covid has made many realise the cost of bringing a family to such an event. When you can relax, stay at home and enjoy your morning and evening and watch the game in comfort on TV, Even have a beer and no worries about driving.
I honestly think it's the weather. A wet boring week and noone and nobody would have anything better to do but get excited for this. As it is people are giddy with other activities and the idea of a warm car/train etc to Dublin for a ridiculously early throw in and no easy prospect of a few pints beforehand has the more casual ones put off. Plus there seems to be a full slate of games for club players despite, in my own case, a Galway hurling game alongside. Probably better I missed it from the looks of it
Have a spare ticket for today's match if anyone knows of anyone looking to go, happy to give it away so as it doesn't go to waste.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 24, 2021, 03:58:01 PM
29,449 attended the last Mayo v Galway Connacht championship match that had supporters. Now 21 hours before this encounter tickets are still on sale on for a 18,000 capped capacity.
Galway not going to travel to see their team hammered. Mayo fans waiting for the semi final. Galway haven't knockout senior championship game in Croke Park since 2001.
I didnt realise that RTE still broadcast games in SD on the Island. Takes away from the game a bit
Water break 18 minutes played. Galway 0-3 Mayo 0-4
Coen switched off?
Should Hennelly have followed the ball out for that goal instead of backing off?
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 25, 2021, 01:52:16 PM
Should Hennelly have followed the ball out for that goal instead of backing off?
A poor reaction by the Mayo defence. Clearly expected a point.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2021, 01:55:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 25, 2021, 01:52:16 PM
Should Hennelly have followed the ball out for that goal instead of backing off?
A poor reaction by the Mayo defence. Clearly expected a point.
None of the Mayo defence reacted. Shane Walsh ran from a long way out to get that ball and his marker just stood looking at him
Great run from Walsh for the he 2nd goal. Left O'Shea for dead.
Looks like Walsh just got done.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 25, 2021, 01:52:16 PM
Should Hennelly have followed the ball out for that goal instead of backing off?
Not a chance, he would've been caught in no man's land. That's a defenders ball all day long. Whatever about Hennelly mistakes but he gets scrutiny no other keeper would
Looks like the only way Mayo can stop Shane Walsh is to take him out with a cheap shot off the ball. Pity it's not like yesterday and the officals can have a word at half time and then hand out a red card
That Galway 11 looks like a good one.
Presently we look like a team in transition. :-\
Half time Galway 2-5 Mayo 0-6. Deserved lead, Mayo shot selection and decision making has been very poor.
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2021, 02:01:09 PM
Looks like Walsh just got done.
O'Hora slammed him UFC style.
Aidan O'Shea does not possess an ounce of footballing skill
Finnerty and Kelly are serious losses for Galway. Especially Kelly who is Galway's best marker and runner out of defence.
Bit of a rumble in the tunnel at half time
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 25, 2021, 02:15:53 PM
Aidan O'Shea does not possess an ounce of footballing skill
Well that's just not true at all
He's played some brilliant passes while doing the deeper playmaker role, if we had an AOS to play in every line of midfield/attack we'd be doing well
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 25, 2021, 02:17:40 PM
Finnerty and Kelly are serious losses for Galway. Especially Kelly who is Galway's best marker and runner out of defence.
Especially having too less subs to bring on in this heat
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 25, 2021, 02:15:53 PM
Aidan O'Shea does not possess an ounce of footballing skill
Based on what?
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 25, 2021, 02:11:17 PM
Presently we look like a team in transition. :-\
Trans Mayo
Self ID
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 25, 2021, 02:15:53 PM
Aidan O'Shea does not possess an ounce of footballing skill
He hasn't got the legs to play midfield in Croke Park. Dubs ran him all over the pitch and he couldn't cope. Galway doing the same. They'd be better putting him in FF. At least then he's a focal point for a leaderless Mayo forward lime and his lack of pace isn't an issue
Galway have already used 2 subs and that could be a problem in this heat. Mayo causing problems for Galway kick outs and if they push up on the kick outs in the 2nd half they can get back into this
"Tá luas ag Shane Walsh". Having the upper hand over Mayo sounds better as Gaeilge.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1419283894629711877
Perfect start to the 2nd half for Mayo. Scored penalty 2-5 to 1-6.
Quote from: David McKeown on July 25, 2021, 01:33:27 PM
I didnt realise that RTE still broadcast games in SD on the Island. Takes away from the game a bit
RTE1&2 are broadcast in both formats
I'm watching it on RTE1 in HD. It might depend on your location and what box/method you're using
Hennelly would scare the shite out of you
Mayo 1 point in front 49 minutes played.
Galway need the water break badly. Their lack of experience is killing them in the 2nd half. Need someone to step up Walsh has disappeared since that cheap shot in the 1st half
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 25, 2021, 02:44:29 PM
Hennelly would scare the shite out of you
At the same time, we didn't lose a single kick out in the first half. For as bad as we were, it would've been a whole different story if those were being turned over
Jaysus. The water break came at the wrong time for Mayo though...
Well at least O'Shea knows how to tackle, a lost art.
Conroy had a stinker first half but he kept going and kept his confidence and it's clicking
53 minutes played Mayo 1-11 Galway 2-5. Mayo look the most likely winner now.
Some tackle by that full back. As well timed as you would ever see that one
Dirty dig on Swanny there
Anyone want to even try and make up an excuse for that being a free out?
Nothing wrong with that for me, it's just a great example of cute forward play. The defender shouldn't be getting done like that.
That 2nd Mayo goal should seal the win for Mayo. The defending by Galway very poor.
You don't have to buy a free off Conor Lane, he gifts them.
Mayo goal disallowed for nothing
Quote from: Schkite on July 25, 2021, 03:03:20 PM
Nothing wrong with that for me, it's just a great example of cute forward play. The defender shouldn't be getting done like that.
Seamus Darby would've liked that one.
Galway look like a team in transition. ???
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 25, 2021, 03:10:40 PM
Galway look like a team in transition. ???
It's Division one V Division two and there's a big gap in standard
Galway should stick to the... er... I don't know, what are they good at these days?
Mayo 2-14 Galway 2-8. Congratulations to Mayo, Connacht title retained against a Galway side that faded badly 2nd half.
Will PJ survive the winter?
Yet another game that adds to the questions about his managerial skills.
Galway's conditioning is not at an intercounty level. Is it at a senior club level? Maybe. They were gassed with 20 minutes left to play. It's not a professional (in the GAA sense) set-up. Could say more but I'll leave it at that.
Nice trial run of Aidan OShea giving a speech on the steps of the Hogan
By Christ that was as sweet as you'd get. Terrific performance in the second half. Didn't see it coming at half time I must say. K Mc has to start the next day. Mattie Ruane my motm.
As for PJ - lol.
Mayo winning by a margin of 6 points is probably what I would have expected before the match. Only Dublin have beaten Mayo in Croke Park the last 8 years and I didn't see that Galway side changing that. Fitness, conditioning, pace and energy to the fore in that Mayo victory and when the game was in the melting pot Horan v Joyce on the sideline was a total mismatch.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 25, 2021, 03:25:58 PM
By Christ that was as sweet as you'd get. Terrific performance in the second half. Didn't see it coming at half time I must say. K Mc has to start the next day. Mattie Ruane my motm.
As for PJ - lol.
Kevin Mc coming on fresh at HT was a better option today.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 25, 2021, 03:33:45 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 25, 2021, 03:25:58 PM
By Christ that was as sweet as you'd get. Terrific performance in the second half. Didn't see it coming at half time I must say. K Mc has to start the next day. Mattie Ruane my motm.
As for PJ - lol.
Kevin Mc coming on fresh at HT was a better option today.
Yeah I'd be thinking the same. He's one lad you can rely on coming off the bench. At 32 years old, his speed may not be as effective early on.
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 25, 2021, 03:19:35 PM
Will PJ survive the winter?
Yet another game that adds to the questions about his managerial skills.
He shouldn't but with the incompetence of Galway county board I won't be surprised if they keep him on for another year.
What kind of crowd be let in the next day, and more importantly how many organs will I need to trade to get one?
Disastrous second half.
When you look at the players we brought in off the bench it shows the lack of quality we have.
Duane coming in for Shane Walsh summed it up.
Chasing the game and we bring on a below average defender for our main attacking threat.
Quote from: galwayman on July 25, 2021, 03:58:31 PM
Disastrous second half.
When you look at the players we brought in off the bench it shows the lack of quality we have.
Duane coming in for Shane Walsh summed it up.
Chasing the game and we bring on a below average defender for our main attacking threat.
To be fair that was not a tactical switch. PJ had given up the ghost at that stage. The early injuries did not help Galway!
Congrats to Mayo, no contest once the real championship stuff started in the second half.
Don't know what to say about Galway, very disappointing performance, hard to be optimistic at the minute really, not near the top level across all sectors both on and off the pitch.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 25, 2021, 04:04:30 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 25, 2021, 03:58:31 PM
Disastrous second half.
When you look at the players we brought in off the bench it shows the lack of quality we have.
Duane coming in for Shane Walsh summed it up.
Chasing the game and we bring on a below average defender for our main attacking threat.
To be fair that was not a tactical switch. PJ had given up the ghost at that stage. The early injuries did not help Galway!
It amounted to waving the white flag all the same.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 25, 2021, 04:06:07 PM
Congrats to Mayo, no contest once the real championship stuff started in the second half.
Don't know what to say about Galway, very disappointing performance, hard to be optimistic at the minute really, not near the top level across all sectors both on and off the pitch.
Injuries did not help Galway. Mayo are a decade at this level. They may have new guys, but there are a lot on and off the field who know the score at this stage. Shane Walsh got the extra attention (legal and Illegal) that players of his caliber will get. The difference in being a good player and a great player is how you deal with that.
Mayo move 2 ahead in the eternal competition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connacht_Senior_Football_Championship#Top_winners
That's 24 ahead of the Rossies
It would be nice if they could turn regional dominance into a Sam.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 25, 2021, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 25, 2021, 04:06:07 PM
Congrats to Mayo, no contest once the real championship stuff started in the second half.
Don't know what to say about Galway, very disappointing performance, hard to be optimistic at the minute really, not near the top level across all sectors both on and off the pitch.
Injuries did not help Galway. Mayo are a decade at this level. They may have new guys, but there are a lot on and off the field who know the score at this stage. Shane Walsh got the extra attention (legal and Illegal) that players of his caliber will get. The difference in being a good player and a great player is how you deal with that.
Granted but what happened to Walsh in the first half should result in discipline for the offender, he had to get an injection at HT to keep playing apparently, if you just let teams take out the opposition top players illegally then where will we end up?
Didn't make any difference to the result but by the same token there's a big difference between tough play and t**ker play.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 25, 2021, 04:28:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 25, 2021, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 25, 2021, 04:06:07 PM
Congrats to Mayo, no contest once the real championship stuff started in the second half.
Don't know what to say about Galway, very disappointing performance, hard to be optimistic at the minute really, not near the top level across all sectors both on and off the pitch.
Injuries did not help Galway. Mayo are a decade at this level. They may have new guys, but there are a lot on and off the field who know the score at this stage. Shane Walsh got the extra attention (legal and Illegal) that players of his caliber will get. The difference in being a good player and a great player is how you deal with that.
Granted but what happened to Walsh in the first half should result in discipline for the offender, he had to get an injection at HT to keep playing apparently, if you just let teams take out the opposition top players illegally then where will we end up?
Didn't make any difference to the result but by the same token there's a big difference between tough play and t**ker play.
Did not know that? That made a big difference then as he was running the show in the 1st half!
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 25, 2021, 04:28:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 25, 2021, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 25, 2021, 04:06:07 PM
Congrats to Mayo, no contest once the real championship stuff started in the second half.
Don't know what to say about Galway, very disappointing performance, hard to be optimistic at the minute really, not near the top level across all sectors both on and off the pitch.
Injuries did not help Galway. Mayo are a decade at this level. They may have new guys, but there are a lot on and off the field who know the score at this stage. Shane Walsh got the extra attention (legal and Illegal) that players of his caliber will get. The difference in being a good player and a great player is how you deal with that.
Granted but what happened to Walsh in the first half should result in discipline for the offender, he had to get an injection at HT to keep playing apparently, if you just let teams take out the opposition top players illegally then where will we end up?
Didn't make any difference to the result but by the same token there's a big difference between tough play and t**ker play.
Who took Walsh out?
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2021, 04:24:20 PM
Mayo move 2 ahead in the eternal competition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connacht_Senior_Football_Championship#Top_winners
That's 24 ahead of the Rossies
It would be nice if they could turn regional dominance into a Sam.
They've never really dominated the regional stuff bar the 2011-15 era.
Shane Walsh quiet in the 2nd half but heard PJ on the radio there and said he had to get an injection to be able to go back out after HT so just wasn't right.
Oops didn't read above that it was mentioned.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 25, 2021, 02:15:53 PM
Aidan O'Shea does not possess an ounce of footballing skill
I presume that you are trying to win the ultimate wind-up merchant competition.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 25, 2021, 04:47:09 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2021, 04:24:20 PM
Mayo move 2 ahead in the eternal competition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connacht_Senior_Football_Championship#Top_winners
That's 24 ahead of the Rossies
It would be nice if they could turn regional dominance into a Sam.
They've never really dominated the regional stuff bar the 2011-15 era.
5 finals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship_finals#Finals
On the game itself, Mayo seemed to be rocked by the concession of the first goal until the halftime break. They did start well initially and Galway grew in confidence after that first goal too. But Mayo seemed a beaten docket at halftime. Then, the second half started and Mayo got their goal and brought it back to 2. Mayo grew in confidence, McLoughlin and McLaughlin coming on worked a treat. Kevin seemed to be under every breaking ball in the third quarter. Galway were winning all the breaking ball in the first half. Fair dues to Horan we can't blame him today as he got all his matchups correct at halftime. He also must have given them a right rollicking at halftime because they fought like the Mayo teams of the last decade did all throughout the second half also. While Galway's injuries didn't help them, I still can't believe they only scored 3 points from frees in the second half. THE proverbial game of two halves.
Hearing PJ interviewed and it doesn't sound like he's planning on leaving. If he stays major changes are needed in the backroom team and preparation but it's all got a stink of jobs for the boys about it at the moment.
Fair play he stuck to the regulations when other teams were training away but it's done him no favours in the end.
Congrats to Mayo. A game of two halves indeed. I was preparing the old "Mayo have gone backwards after playing slow error strewn football in Div 2" post. But fairly proved me wrong in second half and could have had a couple more goals. Flying fit and physically strong. New lads now fully integrated into Horan's setup. For Galway, if Shane Walsh is not motoring Galway are not motoring. Will be very interesting to see where Mayo are and where Dublin are in the semi.
Grits teeth....congrats Mayo (no westros involved I think). Great second half but Galway were dismal in that 2nd.
Not a great day for Keegan looking back on the highlights, he was probably at fault for both goals. For the 2nd one Shane Walsh was at a tight angle after running 50m and he left Comer to double up on him. He doesn't have many bad days so hopefully saving something for the semi!
We did have some good fortune with the 2 Galway injuries in the first half. O'Hora surprised me with how good he was. Mullin and Ruane probably the 2 standout players overall.
The Connacht final is what it is but football is weird now. Galway hit rock bottom around 2010 and started a rebuild job that is still ongoing. Mayo have been orbiting the summit since 2012 without getting to do the deed.
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2021, 08:26:17 PM
The Connacht final is what it is but football is weird now. Galway hit rock bottom around 2010 and started a rebuild job that is still ongoing. Mayo have been orbiting the summit since 2012 without getting to do the deed.
What is it that ye're building that is going on 11 years without any structure?
Quote from: Tubberman on July 25, 2021, 09:20:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2021, 08:26:17 PM
The Connacht final is what it is but football is weird now. Galway hit rock bottom around 2010 and started a rebuild job that is still ongoing. Mayo have been orbiting the summit since 2012 without getting to do the deed.
What is it that ye're building that is going on 11 years without any structure?
Difference is there hasn't been any continuity in the background in Galway in all of that time in terms of many things including S&C etc.
It's all been left completely down to whichever manager happens to be in charge at a given time. We have had 5 managers in that time.
There are a lot of things within Galway GAA being run shambolically unfortunately.
Kevin Walsh produced a comprehensive document for the county board listing changes that he felt needed to be made in lots of areas for the betterment of Galway football.
That was pretty much binned it seems.
Our county board have been masters of incompetence for a long time.
Our player development is miles behind where it should be.
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2021, 08:26:17 PM
The Connacht final is what it is but football is weird now. Galway hit rock bottom around 2010 and started a rebuild job that is still ongoing. Mayo have been orbiting the summit since 2012 without getting to do the deed.
Meath, Kildare, Cork, Donegal, Tyrone and even Kerry have been rebuilding the last decade!
So have Dublin, but their re-building is called transition!
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 25, 2021, 07:41:15 PM
Not a great day for Keegan looking back on the highlights, he was probably at fault for both goals. For the 2nd one Shane Walsh was at a tight angle after running 50m and he left Comer to double up on him. He doesn't have many bad days so hopefully saving something for the semi!
We did have some good fortune with the 2 Galway injuries in the first half. O'Hora surprised me with how good he was. Mullin and Ruane probably the 2 standout players overall.
O'Hora is super, built for the big game, far too long getting into the team. Anyone who watched him win the kickass reality tv comp would know the bigger the challenge, the better he'll do.
Where do Mayo unearth all the defenders? About time someone told Oisin about second season syndrome!! What's a player. Great corner back, even better centre back. Do you 'waste' his half back attributes by putting him on Con again? That's a big decision given how well he did on Con last year.
I don't know what the right position is for Keegan. But the current position he's playing is not it. If he's anywhere near corner back, he is a weak link and the Dubs will target him. I'd put him at half forward on one of Howard or McCarthy (whoever;s playing half back) and tell him not to shoot unless unmissable.
(apologies to any Kildare fan reading this)
That tackle o'hora did in the first half was as good as you'd see. It's rare you see dispossessions like that these days. (Although O'Shea did a couple of good ones too).
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2021, 10:18:49 PM
That tackle o'hora did in the first half was as good as you'd see. It's rare you see dispossessions like that these days. (Although O'Shea did a couple of good ones too).
His 'tackle' on Shane Walsh was hardly one for the annals.
Quote from: mouview on July 26, 2021, 12:38:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2021, 10:18:49 PM
That tackle o'hora did in the first half was as good as you'd see. It's rare you see dispossessions like that these days. (Although O'Shea did a couple of good ones too).
His 'tackle' on Shane Walsh was hardly one for the annals.
Walsh should have kept his hands to himself then instead of trying to grab him to the ground.
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 25, 2021, 07:41:15 PM
Not a great day for Keegan looking back on the highlights, he was probably at fault for both goals. For the 2nd one Shane Walsh was at a tight angle after running 50m and he left Comer to double up on him. He doesn't have many bad days so hopefully saving something for the semi!
We did have some good fortune with the 2 Galway injuries in the first half. O'Hora surprised me with how good he was. Mullin and Ruane probably the 2 standout players overall.
He doesn't get enough credit but James Horan has done a great job with Mayo considering that this is practically a new Mayo side and they are effectively still going through a transition process. They can go into a semi final against Dublin with no pressure or expectation and I wouldn't be surprised if they take Dublin down to the wire although I'm not sure if they can actually beat them. Remarkable consistency from Mayo though who are now in their 10th AI semi final in 11 years.
Lee Keegan does not appear to be at the same level as he was a few years back when he was one of the best defenders in the country but they have other newer players who have stepped up very effectively and Durcan could well be the best defender in the country at the minute.
Quote from: mouview on July 26, 2021, 12:38:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2021, 10:18:49 PM
That tackle o'hora did in the first half was as good as you'd see. It's rare you see dispossessions like that these days. (Although O'Shea did a couple of good ones too).
His 'tackle' on Shane Walsh was hardly one for the annals.
Was it not Keegan? There seems to be some confusion over who it was. Surprised it wasn't even mentioned on TSG last night.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 26, 2021, 10:56:29 AM
Quote from: mouview on July 26, 2021, 12:38:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2021, 10:18:49 PM
That tackle o'hora did in the first half was as good as you'd see. It's rare you see dispossessions like that these days. (Although O'Shea did a couple of good ones too).
His 'tackle' on Shane Walsh was hardly one for the annals.
Was it not Keegan? There seems to be some confusion over who it was. Surprised it wasn't even mentioned on TSG last night.
It wasn't, but give a dog a name and it'll stick etc as we see here from SouthDublinBro and the likes. Terrible the way the camera zoomed in on him despite him not involved at all.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 26, 2021, 10:56:29 AM
Quote from: mouview on July 26, 2021, 12:38:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2021, 10:18:49 PM
That tackle o'hora did in the first half was as good as you'd see. It's rare you see dispossessions like that these days. (Although O'Shea did a couple of good ones too).
His 'tackle' on Shane Walsh was hardly one for the annals.
Was it not Keegan? There seems to be some confusion over who it was. Surprised it wasn't even mentioned on TSG last night.
No, it was O'Hora, and from the video i saw (albeit camera was at a distance so it's not clear what exactly happened), it looks like O'Hora was jogging past Walsh, and Walsh grabbed him around the neck from behind to pull him back, and O'Hora grabbed him and pulled him/threw him to the ground. O'Hora got up and jogged on, Walsh must have come down hard on his shoulder
Quote from: Tubberman on July 25, 2021, 09:20:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2021, 08:26:17 PM
The Connacht final is what it is but football is weird now. Galway hit rock bottom around 2010 and started a rebuild job that is still ongoing. Mayo have been orbiting the summit since 2012 without getting to do the deed.
What is it that ye're building that is going on 11 years without any structure?
It seemed to be going ok until around 2018 but has lost it way since then.
I wouldn't be happy with losing all Irelands either , however. A loss is a loss.
Galway lost 3 in the 70s.
Quote from: seafoid on July 26, 2021, 11:04:51 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 25, 2021, 09:20:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2021, 08:26:17 PM
The Connacht final is what it is but football is weird now. Galway hit rock bottom around 2010 and started a rebuild job that is still ongoing. Mayo have been orbiting the summit since 2012 without getting to do the deed.
What is it that ye're building that is going on 11 years without any structure?
It seemed to be going ok until around 2018 but has lost it way since then.
I wouldn't be happy with losing all Irelands either , however. A loss is a loss.
Galway lost 3 in the 70s.
Where have you gone Michael Donnellan? A county turns it's lonely eyes to you.
Quote from: yellowcard on July 26, 2021, 09:40:35 AM
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 25, 2021, 07:41:15 PM
Not a great day for Keegan looking back on the highlights, he was probably at fault for both goals. For the 2nd one Shane Walsh was at a tight angle after running 50m and he left Comer to double up on him. He doesn't have many bad days so hopefully saving something for the semi!
We did have some good fortune with the 2 Galway injuries in the first half. O'Hora surprised me with how good he was. Mullin and Ruane probably the 2 standout players overall.
He doesn't get enough credit but James Horan has done a great job with Mayo considering that this is practically a new Mayo side and they are effectively still going through a transition process. They can go into a semi final against Dublin with no pressure or expectation and I wouldn't be surprised if they take Dublin down to the wire although I'm not sure if they can actually beat them. Remarkable consistency from Mayo though who are now in their 10th AI semi final in 11 years.
Lee Keegan does not appear to be at the same level as he was a few years back when he was one of the best defenders in the country but they have other newer players who have stepped up very effectively and Durcan could well be the best defender in the country at the minute.
Horan has never lost a game in Connacht as Manager. He has 100% success in winning Connacht titles. Roachford had a 0% success in Connacht titles. And I still would rate Roachford.
Horan has turned things around quickly - or so it seems. But it must be remembered that this group has not played Tyrone, Donegal, Kerry in Championship football. Mayo's championship form over the two years has been based on playing Connacht teams and Tipperary!
He lost one - Roscommon 2019.
Quote from: Tubberman on July 26, 2021, 11:45:04 AM
He lost one - Roscommon 2019.
Yeah, forgot about that - getting old! So he about 85% success. :-\
It was definitely O'Hora that 'tackled' Shane, it happened in front of where we were sitting. Disaster of a day, to go in at half time 5 points up and not score from play in the second half is unforgivable at this level. The goalkeeping/kick out situation at this stage is laughable, Gleeson had a howler of a day yesterday, Power might not be the answer either but his distribution is streets ahead of Gleeson. Sean Kelly going off was a hammer blow, he's grown into one of our most important players. We have a real lack of scoring forwards at the minute, Cathal Sweeney was sweeping, Cooke seems to have lost the ability/confidence to score, teams have come to terms with Comers brute force now, he needs to develop another side to his game. Finnerty going off was another blow and he was replaced with another sweeper which didn't make a lot of sense, put all the pressure of scoring on to an already under pressure Shane Walsh. Paul Kelly was anonymous but he'll come good eventually, first proper season and he's still u-20. Some very baffling decisions made by the sideline, an injured Shane replaced by Johnny Duane when we were in need of scores, Mike Farragher has been a brilliant player for Corofin but hasn't played a minutes ball over the whole league and championship, don't think he made the match day squad even and he was brought on yesterday? I also spotted Sean Andy Kelly at the match as a supporter, another defection from the panel it seems. To be honest I think this job came too soon for P.J. but that said I think he'll stay on, they haven't had a straight forward year yet with Covid disruptions etc so maybe he deserves that last roll of the dice but do we have the time to give him that chance, I don't know. If he does stay on he need to seriously rethink the S and C side of things, he needs a proper coach like Dave Morris or Rochford and he needs to get those players that opted out to come back, without the likes of Adrian Varley, Ian Burke, Ronan Steede, Michael Daly etc our panel is very bare.
All due respect to a legend of the game, we have seen nothing that indicates Galway are going to improve from here, will be an absolute dogfight to get back to Div One next year as well.
Not entirely his fault - Galway football problems are of a more systemic nature I feel and outside of a few players a lot of them have just not done it at Senior level - but the cold facts are what they are, Mayo have made a team transition without skipping a beat, people on about all the young players that have started for Galway, the Mayo young lads have come in and are winning, they look absolutely miles ahead in terms of conditioning, attitude and aggression.
Depressing enough really, I don't know do many people even care, if you look at the pathetic fund raising return from earlier in the year, the shambles that is the county website, everything points to a two bob operation.
For the people I see on social media trying to go on about Mayo's failure to land the big one to make themselves feel a bit better about the hames we are in at the moment it makes me cringe.
Mayo are the ones rightly laughing at us, 10 semi finals in 11 years, they are the only show in town West of the Shannon at the top table, Galway have had one good year in twenty and failed utterly to build off the back of that. Expecting some out of nowhere event like 98 to happen again is a Fools errant, we're hopelessly exposed in CP all the time and I've yet to hear a coherent plan about how Galway football is going to be turned around, forget the underage wins, we had those before and made no use of them, what's the plan to get Galway consistently playing in the later stages the Senior Championship?
Quote from: Duine Eile on July 26, 2021, 02:28:03 PM
It was definitely O'Hora that 'tackled' Shane, it happened in front of where we were sitting. Disaster of a day, to go in at half time 5 points up and not score from play in the second half is unforgivable at this level. The goalkeeping/kick out situation at this stage is laughable, Gleeson had a howler of a day yesterday, Power might not be the answer either but his distribution is streets ahead of Gleeson. Sean Kelly going off was a hammer blow, he's grown into one of our most important players. We have a real lack of scoring forwards at the minute, Cathal Sweeney was sweeping, Cooke seems to have lost the ability/confidence to score, teams have come to terms with Comers brute force now, he needs to develop another side to his game.
Comer needs to be closer to goal. He spent most of the 2nd half yesterday stuck out on the wing. Heard Kevin Walsh interviewed after the game and he said (correctly IMO) that Comer is a power athlete not an endurance athlete. You can't have him chasing lads up and down the pitch. He's not built to do that. Get him closer to goal and let him use his power over short bursts where he is still very dangerous. The one time he went in close to goal in the 2nd half he hit the crossbar and was fair unlucky to see it somehow not bounce in or over the bar but straight up in the air and out.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 26, 2021, 02:54:11 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on July 26, 2021, 02:28:03 PM
It was definitely O'Hora that 'tackled' Shane, it happened in front of where we were sitting. Disaster of a day, to go in at half time 5 points up and not score from play in the second half is unforgivable at this level. The goalkeeping/kick out situation at this stage is laughable, Gleeson had a howler of a day yesterday, Power might not be the answer either but his distribution is streets ahead of Gleeson. Sean Kelly going off was a hammer blow, he's grown into one of our most important players. We have a real lack of scoring forwards at the minute, Cathal Sweeney was sweeping, Cooke seems to have lost the ability/confidence to score, teams have come to terms with Comers brute force now, he needs to develop another side to his game.
Ya I'd agree with that re Comer, I also don't think Shane Walsh is a no 14, his speed and ball carrying ability is wasted in there.
Comer needs to be closer to goal. He spent most of the 2nd half yesterday stuck out on the wing. Heard Kevin Walsh interviewed after the game and he said (correctly IMO) that Comer is a power athlete not an endurance athlete. You can't have him chasing lads up and down the pitch. He's not built to do that. Get him closer to goal and let him use his power over short bursts where he is still very dangerous. The one time he went in close to goal in the 2nd half he hit the crossbar and was fair unlucky to see it somehow not bounce in or over the bar but straight up in the air and out.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 26, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
All due respect to a legend of the game, we have seen nothing that indicates Galway are going to improve from here, will be an absolute dogfight to get back to Div One next year as well.
Not entirely his fault - Galway football problems are of a more systemic nature I feel and outside of a few players a lot of them have just not done it at Senior level - but the cold facts are what they are, Mayo have made a team transition without skipping a beat, people on about all the young players that have started for Galway, the Mayo young lads have come in and are winning, they look absolutely miles ahead in terms of conditioning, attitude and aggression.
Depressing enough really, I don't know do many people even care, if you look at the pathetic fund raising return from earlier in the year, the shambles that is the county website, everything points to a two bob operation.
For the people I see on social media trying to go on about Mayo's failure to land the big one to make themselves feel a bit better about the hames we are in at the moment it makes me cringe.
Mayo are the ones rightly laughing at us, 10 semi finals in 11 years, they are the only show in town West of the Shannon at the top table, Galway have had one good year in twenty and failed utterly to build off the back of that. Expecting some out of nowhere event like 98 to happen again is a Fools errant, we're hopelessly exposed in CP all the time and I've yet to hear a coherent plan about how Galway football is going to be turned around, forget the underage wins, we had those before and made no use of them, what's the plan to get Galway consistently playing in the later stages the Senior Championship?
Not saying it would be a panacea or anything, but one thing I would like to see is a more competitive domestic championship. Corofin's dominance has been a real drag on player development at club level I feel over the past decade and the championship has subsequently been of poor standard. With Moycullen - M/M contesting the most recent final maybe the portents in this area are about to change. It mightn't help our hurling counterparts too much but at least the championship there is of a much higher calibre and helps identify players with county potential.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 26, 2021, 06:27:04 AM
Quote from: mouview on July 26, 2021, 12:38:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2021, 10:18:49 PM
That tackle o'hora did in the first half was as good as you'd see. It's rare you see dispossessions like that these days. (Although O'Shea did a couple of good ones too).
His 'tackle' on Shane Walsh was hardly one for the annals.
Walsh should have kept his hands to himself then instead of trying to grab him to the ground.
Exactly Farr. Walsh lost.
Before the throw in Finnerty made a show of toughing up to O Hora. Barging into him and giving him the bumpers. For me, that told me he was terrified of The Swan - which he should have been. Swanee just laughed in his face. Finnerty, I suspect was happy to get an injury and get replaced asap.
Swanee got a right clatter later. Par for the course with him. He hurts people but not going to moan if he gets hurt as well. He's used to it.
Quote from: mouview on July 26, 2021, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 26, 2021, 11:04:51 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 25, 2021, 09:20:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2021, 08:26:17 PM
The Connacht final is what it is but football is weird now. Galway hit rock bottom around 2010 and started a rebuild job that is still ongoing. Mayo have been orbiting the summit since 2012 without getting to do the deed.
What is it that ye're building that is going on 11 years without any structure?
It seemed to be going ok until around 2018 but has lost it way since then.
I wouldn't be happy with losing all Irelands either , however. A loss is a loss.
Galway lost 3 in the 70s.
Where have you gone Michael Donnellan? A county turns it's lonely eyes to you.
Bímse buan ar buairt gach ló,
Ag caoi go crua is ag tuar na ndeor
Mar scaoileadh uaim an buachaill beo
Is ná ríomhtar tuairisc uaidh, mo bhrón
Quote from: mouview on July 26, 2021, 04:06:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 26, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
All due respect to a legend of the game, we have seen nothing that indicates Galway are going to improve from here, will be an absolute dogfight to get back to Div One next year as well.
Not entirely his fault - Galway football problems are of a more systemic nature I feel and outside of a few players a lot of them have just not done it at Senior level - but the cold facts are what they are, Mayo have made a team transition without skipping a beat, people on about all the young players that have started for Galway, the Mayo young lads have come in and are winning, they look absolutely miles ahead in terms of conditioning, attitude and aggression.
Depressing enough really, I don't know do many people even care, if you look at the pathetic fund raising return from earlier in the year, the shambles that is the county website, everything points to a two bob operation.
For the people I see on social media trying to go on about Mayo's failure to land the big one to make themselves feel a bit better about the hames we are in at the moment it makes me cringe.
Mayo are the ones rightly laughing at us, 10 semi finals in 11 years, they are the only show in town West of the Shannon at the top table, Galway have had one good year in twenty and failed utterly to build off the back of that. Expecting some out of nowhere event like 98 to happen again is a Fools errant, we're hopelessly exposed in CP all the time and I've yet to hear a coherent plan about how Galway football is going to be turned around, forget the underage wins, we had those before and made no use of them, what's the plan to get Galway consistently playing in the later stages the Senior Championship?
Not saying it would be a panacea or anything, but one thing I would like to see is a more competitive domestic championship. Corofin's dominance has been a real drag on player development at club level I feel over the past decade and the championship has subsequently been of poor standard. With Moycullen - M/M contesting the most recent final maybe the portents in this area are about to change. It mightn't help our hurling counterparts too much but at least the championship there is of a much higher calibre and helps identify players with county potential.
Crossmaglen's multiple club all Irelands didn't do anything for Armagh.Similar for Athenry and Portumna in the hurling. Or St Thomas' ?
6 teams on a similar level develop over time and can generate a very decent pick.
Sure Galway wouldn't have won in 98 without being beaten by Mayo in 97.
Quote from: seafoid on July 27, 2021, 07:52:38 AM
Quote from: mouview on July 26, 2021, 04:06:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 26, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
All due respect to a legend of the game, we have seen nothing that indicates Galway are going to improve from here, will be an absolute dogfight to get back to Div One next year as well.
Not entirely his fault - Galway football problems are of a more systemic nature I feel and outside of a few players a lot of them have just not done it at Senior level - but the cold facts are what they are, Mayo have made a team transition without skipping a beat, people on about all the young players that have started for Galway, the Mayo young lads have come in and are winning, they look absolutely miles ahead in terms of conditioning, attitude and aggression.
Depressing enough really, I don't know do many people even care, if you look at the pathetic fund raising return from earlier in the year, the shambles that is the county website, everything points to a two bob operation.
For the people I see on social media trying to go on about Mayo's failure to land the big one to make themselves feel a bit better about the hames we are in at the moment it makes me cringe.
Mayo are the ones rightly laughing at us, 10 semi finals in 11 years, they are the only show in town West of the Shannon at the top table, Galway have had one good year in twenty and failed utterly to build off the back of that. Expecting some out of nowhere event like 98 to happen again is a Fools errant, we're hopelessly exposed in CP all the time and I've yet to hear a coherent plan about how Galway football is going to be turned around, forget the underage wins, we had those before and made no use of them, what's the plan to get Galway consistently playing in the later stages the Senior Championship?
Not saying it would be a panacea or anything, but one thing I would like to see is a more competitive domestic championship. Corofin's dominance has been a real drag on player development at club level I feel over the past decade and the championship has subsequently been of poor standard. With Moycullen - M/M contesting the most recent final maybe the portents in this area are about to change. It mightn't help our hurling counterparts too much but at least the championship there is of a much higher calibre and helps identify players with county potential.
Crossmaglen's multiple club all Irelands didn't do anything for Armagh.Similar for Athenry and Portumna in the hurling. Or St Thomas' ?
6 teams on a similar level develop over time and can generate a very decent pick.
Sure Galway wouldn't have won in 98 without being beaten by Mayo in 97.
Are you arguing that a competitive championship would help or wouldn't make a difference. I genuinely can't tell from your post
Quote from: seafoid on July 27, 2021, 07:52:38 AM
Quote from: mouview on July 26, 2021, 04:06:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 26, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
All due respect to a legend of the game, we have seen nothing that indicates Galway are going to improve from here, will be an absolute dogfight to get back to Div One next year as well.
Not entirely his fault - Galway football problems are of a more systemic nature I feel and outside of a few players a lot of them have just not done it at Senior level - but the cold facts are what they are, Mayo have made a team transition without skipping a beat, people on about all the young players that have started for Galway, the Mayo young lads have come in and are winning, they look absolutely miles ahead in terms of conditioning, attitude and aggression.
Depressing enough really, I don't know do many people even care, if you look at the pathetic fund raising return from earlier in the year, the shambles that is the county website, everything points to a two bob operation.
For the people I see on social media trying to go on about Mayo's failure to land the big one to make themselves feel a bit better about the hames we are in at the moment it makes me cringe.
Mayo are the ones rightly laughing at us, 10 semi finals in 11 years, they are the only show in town West of the Shannon at the top table, Galway have had one good year in twenty and failed utterly to build off the back of that. Expecting some out of nowhere event like 98 to happen again is a Fools errant, we're hopelessly exposed in CP all the time and I've yet to hear a coherent plan about how Galway football is going to be turned around, forget the underage wins, we had those before and made no use of them, what's the plan to get Galway consistently playing in the later stages the Senior Championship?
Not saying it would be a panacea or anything, but one thing I would like to see is a more competitive domestic championship. Corofin's dominance has been a real drag on player development at club level I feel over the past decade and the championship has subsequently been of poor standard. With Moycullen - M/M contesting the most recent final maybe the portents in this area are about to change. It mightn't help our hurling counterparts too much but at least the championship there is of a much higher calibre and helps identify players with county potential.
Crossmaglen's multiple club all Irelands didn't do anything for Armagh.Similar for Athenry and Portumna in the hurling. Or St Thomas' ?
6 teams on a similar level develop over time and can generate a very decent pick.
Sure Galway wouldn't have won in 98 without being beaten by Mayo in 97.
Did Armagh not win an AI in 02 and rake of Ulsters in the noughties with the same stars on both teams- McConville, Belleew etc...
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kevin-mcstay-mayo-firmly-in-the-all-ireland-mix-as-they-prepare-for-defining-test-1.4630842
Afterwards, the stats I got from RTÉ told a bleak tale for the losing team. Galway were destroyed in their long kick-out, winning just 38 per cent. Mayo won 75 per cent of their own long restarts. That is game, set and match. From those possessions Mayo scored 2-8. Why is that happening?
Well, they have one of the best kick-out presses in the game. They force teams to kick long and then they employ the overload, where they can get five or six around the dropping ball. Again, they get there quickly. They cover ground.
It was a 0-11 swing in the second half of a Connacht final. Galway went 30 minutes without a score. They didn't score from play in the second half. It is a shocking indictment. It ended bizarrely with Mayo's James Carr tapping a goal chance over the bar as though to spare them embarrassment. I don't know why he didn't go for it. He hit a cracking goal down in Limerick in a qualifier against Galway so he has the instinct.
That moment should be the enduring memory of the day for this Galway team. Last thing they want is Mayo sympathy. It is their third successive defeat in a Connacht final. They can't launch properly until they sort out the backyard. They have had a bad season.
And like a few other counties – Armagh, Donegal – they have to go off this winter and ask the right questions in order to arrive at the correct answers. In a few facets of the game they are well off the standard.
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 27, 2021, 08:17:43 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 27, 2021, 07:52:38 AM
Quote from: mouview on July 26, 2021, 04:06:02 PM
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All due respect to a legend of the game, we have seen nothing that indicates Galway are going to improve from here, will be an absolute dogfight to get back to Div One next year as well.
Not entirely his fault - Galway football problems are of a more systemic nature I feel and outside of a few players a lot of them have just not done it at Senior level - but the cold facts are what they are, Mayo have made a team transition without skipping a beat, people on about all the young players that have started for Galway, the Mayo young lads have come in and are winning, they look absolutely miles ahead in terms of conditioning, attitude and aggression.
Depressing enough really, I don't know do many people even care, if you look at the pathetic fund raising return from earlier in the year, the shambles that is the county website, everything points to a two bob operation.
For the people I see on social media trying to go on about Mayo's failure to land the big one to make themselves feel a bit better about the hames we are in at the moment it makes me cringe.
Mayo are the ones rightly laughing at us, 10 semi finals in 11 years, they are the only show in town West of the Shannon at the top table, Galway have had one good year in twenty and failed utterly to build off the back of that. Expecting some out of nowhere event like 98 to happen again is a Fools errant, we're hopelessly exposed in CP all the time and I've yet to hear a coherent plan about how Galway football is going to be turned around, forget the underage wins, we had those before and made no use of them, what's the plan to get Galway consistently playing in the later stages the Senior Championship?
Not saying it would be a panacea or anything, but one thing I would like to see is a more competitive domestic championship. Corofin's dominance has been a real drag on player development at club level I feel over the past decade and the championship has subsequently been of poor standard. With Moycullen - M/M contesting the most recent final maybe the portents in this area are about to change. It mightn't help our hurling counterparts too much but at least the championship there is of a much higher calibre and helps identify players with county potential.
Crossmaglen's multiple club all Irelands didn't do anything for Armagh.Similar for Athenry and Portumna in the hurling. Or St Thomas' ?
6 teams on a similar level develop over time and can generate a very decent pick.
Sure Galway wouldn't have won in 98 without being beaten by Mayo in 97.
Did Armagh not win an AI in 02 and rake of Ulsters in the noughties with the same stars on both teams- McConville, Belleew etc...
Cross won about 15 county titles after 2003. Armagh won 0 all Irelands during this time.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/galway-failed-to-reckon-with-fact-that-mayo-always-turn-up-at-croke-park-1.4630169
And so Mayo go through to their 10th All-Ireland semi-final in 11 years.
For a bit of context, consider the fact that before 2011 they had been in 10 All-Ireland semi-finals in the previous 30 years.
Quote from: seafoid on July 27, 2021, 09:23:43 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/galway-failed-to-reckon-with-fact-that-mayo-always-turn-up-at-croke-park-1.4630169
And so Mayo go through to their 10th All-Ireland semi-final in 11 years.
For a bit of context, consider the fact that before 2011 they had been in 10 All-Ireland semi-finals in the previous 30 years.
How about 2 semi-finals in 25 years 1955-1980
hard to know where to go from here, but first off congrats to Mayo and James Horan. Credit to James Horan for his lead in rebuilding this Mayo team, and in fairness to Mayo they have been putting the effort in with the Mayo Coaching plan.
I really think it's time for PJ to go, fundamentally he didn't have much experience in coaching coming into the role and it's showing. He seems to want to be the manager of a Galway team that wins an all ireland, but does he want to be a great coach/manager ? How come he never managed a club team prior to getting the Galway gig ? compared to Horan who has gone on to do a Msc in Coaching and has a couple of stints managing teams.
As a county how can we expect to compete with Mayo when we're not investing the same in s&c as Mayo are ?
I don't want to be slating the county board, but the structures are wrong to me, we're a big dual county like Cork and Dublin, we should have a CEO to run the whole operation. Where does the buck stop? Is it the football committee or the county committee, or in between ? For some reason HQ don't think we need a ceo. imho Gottchse should be promoted to CEO. The last CEO didn't work out, but that's no reason not to appoint another one.
We need a person of the calibre of Lukasz Kirszenstein overseeing an S&C programme, someone who has experience working in a professional sports environment. If it's good enough for the hurlers, why not the footballers ? the s&c coach should be independent of the county manager and they need to be fulltime.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 27, 2021, 09:39:57 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 27, 2021, 09:23:43 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/galway-failed-to-reckon-with-fact-that-mayo-always-turn-up-at-croke-park-1.4630169
And so Mayo go through to their 10th All-Ireland semi-final in 11 years.
For a bit of context, consider the fact that before 2011 they had been in 10 All-Ireland semi-finals in the previous 30 years.
How about 2 semi-finals in 25 years 1955-1980
We are well on our way to emulating that or even bettering it based on Sundays display. One would hope the second half "display" provokes the much desired response from the powers that be in Galway football - recent history suggests not....................
Quote from: thebackbar1 on July 27, 2021, 09:59:46 AM
hard to know where to go from here, but first off congrats to Mayo and James Horan. Credit to James Horan for his lead in rebuilding this Mayo team, and in fairness to Mayo they have been putting the effort in with the Mayo Coaching plan.
I really think it's time for PJ to go, fundamentally he didn't have much experience in coaching coming into the role and it's showing. He seems to want to be the manager of a Galway team that wins an all ireland, but does he want to be a great coach/manager ? How come he never managed a club team prior to getting the Galway gig ? compared to Horan who has gone on to do a Msc in Coaching and has a couple of stints managing teams.
As a county how can we expect to compete with Mayo when we're not investing the same in s&c as Mayo are ?
I don't want to be slating the county board, but the structures are wrong to me, we're a big dual county like Cork and Dublin, we should have a CEO to run the whole operation. Where does the buck stop? Is it the football committee or the county committee, or in between ? For some reason HQ don't think we need a ceo. imho Gottchse should be promoted to CEO. The last CEO didn't work out, but that's no reason not to appoint another one.
We need a person of the calibre of Lukasz Kirszenstein overseeing an S&C programme, someone who has experience working in a professional sports environment. If it's good enough for the hurlers, why not the footballers ? the s&c coach should be independent of the county manager and they need to be fulltime.
Picking all Ireland winners to manage the county team is hit and miss. Conor Hayes, Noel Lane and Anthony Cunningham all tried with the hurlers but left disillusioned.
Quote from: seafoid on July 27, 2021, 07:52:38 AM
Quote from: mouview on July 26, 2021, 04:06:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 26, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
All due respect to a legend of the game, we have seen nothing that indicates Galway are going to improve from here, will be an absolute dogfight to get back to Div One next year as well.
Not entirely his fault - Galway football problems are of a more systemic nature I feel and outside of a few players a lot of them have just not done it at Senior level - but the cold facts are what they are, Mayo have made a team transition without skipping a beat, people on about all the young players that have started for Galway, the Mayo young lads have come in and are winning, they look absolutely miles ahead in terms of conditioning, attitude and aggression.
Depressing enough really, I don't know do many people even care, if you look at the pathetic fund raising return from earlier in the year, the shambles that is the county website, everything points to a two bob operation.
For the people I see on social media trying to go on about Mayo's failure to land the big one to make themselves feel a bit better about the hames we are in at the moment it makes me cringe.
Mayo are the ones rightly laughing at us, 10 semi finals in 11 years, they are the only show in town West of the Shannon at the top table, Galway have had one good year in twenty and failed utterly to build off the back of that. Expecting some out of nowhere event like 98 to happen again is a Fools errant, we're hopelessly exposed in CP all the time and I've yet to hear a coherent plan about how Galway football is going to be turned around, forget the underage wins, we had those before and made no use of them, what's the plan to get Galway consistently playing in the later stages the Senior Championship?
Not saying it would be a panacea or anything, but one thing I would like to see is a more competitive domestic championship. Corofin's dominance has been a real drag on player development at club level I feel over the past decade and the championship has subsequently been of poor standard. With Moycullen - M/M contesting the most recent final maybe the portents in this area are about to change. It mightn't help our hurling counterparts too much but at least the championship there is of a much higher calibre and helps identify players with county potential.
Crossmaglen's multiple club all Irelands didn't do anything for Armagh.Similar for Athenry and Portumna in the hurling. Or St Thomas' ?
6 teams on a similar level develop over time and can generate a very decent pick.
Sure Galway wouldn't have won in 98 without being beaten by Mayo in 97.
Didn't do anything?
Crossmaglen Ulster titles 1996, 1998, 1999, 2004, 2006 and All-Ireland titles 1997, 1999, 2000, 2007
Armagh Ulster titles 1999, 2000, 2002, '04, '05, '06. All Ireland in 2002 and Division 1 title in 2005. In that period of time lost by 1 point to the eventual All-Ireland champions a few times.
When did Galway last retain a Connacht title? how many All-Ireland semi final appearances in the last 20 years? how many times did they lose to the eventual All-Ireland champions by 1 score?
When you answer those questions you should realise with all the club and underage All Ireland success there is no doubt that Galway seniors have been and continues to be the great underachievers of the last two decades.
Quote from: seafoid on July 27, 2021, 07:52:38 AM
Quote from: mouview on July 26, 2021, 04:06:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 26, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
All due respect to a legend of the game, we have seen nothing that indicates Galway are going to improve from here, will be an absolute dogfight to get back to Div One next year as well.
Not entirely his fault - Galway football problems are of a more systemic nature I feel and outside of a few players a lot of them have just not done it at Senior level - but the cold facts are what they are, Mayo have made a team transition without skipping a beat, people on about all the young players that have started for Galway, the Mayo young lads have come in and are winning, they look absolutely miles ahead in terms of conditioning, attitude and aggression.
Depressing enough really, I don't know do many people even care, if you look at the pathetic fund raising return from earlier in the year, the shambles that is the county website, everything points to a two bob operation.
For the people I see on social media trying to go on about Mayo's failure to land the big one to make themselves feel a bit better about the hames we are in at the moment it makes me cringe.
Mayo are the ones rightly laughing at us, 10 semi finals in 11 years, they are the only show in town West of the Shannon at the top table, Galway have had one good year in twenty and failed utterly to build off the back of that. Expecting some out of nowhere event like 98 to happen again is a Fools errant, we're hopelessly exposed in CP all the time and I've yet to hear a coherent plan about how Galway football is going to be turned around, forget the underage wins, we had those before and made no use of them, what's the plan to get Galway consistently playing in the later stages the Senior Championship?
Not saying it would be a panacea or anything, but one thing I would like to see is a more competitive domestic championship. Corofin's dominance has been a real drag on player development at club level I feel over the past decade and the championship has subsequently been of poor standard. With Moycullen - M/M contesting the most recent final maybe the portents in this area are about to change. It mightn't help our hurling counterparts too much but at least the championship there is of a much higher calibre and helps identify players with county potential.
Crossmaglen's multiple club all Irelands didn't do anything for Armagh.Similar for Athenry and Portumna in the hurling. Or St Thomas' ?
6 teams on a similar level develop over time and can generate a very decent pick.
Sure Galway wouldn't have won in 98 without being beaten by Mayo in 97.
I think you're confirming what I'm saying Seaf? For the best part of a decade, Corofin's dominance has been almost total, such that many clubs have been half-hearted in their preparation and the c'ship itself became largely predictable and lacklustre, and a turn-off for supporters. Only in later years did Annaghdown, Tuam and Mountbellew mount a belated challenge.
Thomas' have achieved an admirable 3-in-a-row in hurling but have been pushed all the way in that time by such as Sarsfields, Mellows, Cappataggle and of late Turlough'. The knockout stages are always competitive and the semi-finals are very often the best days out on the domestic scene, drawing large crowds. You don't have nearly the same excitement or attraction in the big ball game.
Quote from: thebackbar1 on July 27, 2021, 09:59:46 AM
hard to know where to go from here, but first off congrats to Mayo and James Horan. Credit to James Horan for his lead in rebuilding this Mayo team, and in fairness to Mayo they have been putting the effort in with the Mayo Coaching plan.
I really think it's time for PJ to go, fundamentally he didn't have much experience in coaching coming into the role and it's showing. He seems to want to be the manager of a Galway team that wins an all ireland, but does he want to be a great coach/manager ? How come he never managed a club team prior to getting the Galway gig ? compared to Horan who has gone on to do a Msc in Coaching and has a couple of stints managing teams.
As a county how can we expect to compete with Mayo when we're not investing the same in s&c as Mayo are ?
I don't want to be slating the county board, but the structures are wrong to me, we're a big dual county like Cork and Dublin, we should have a CEO to run the whole operation. Where does the buck stop? Is it the football committee or the county committee, or in between ? For some reason HQ don't think we need a ceo. imho Gottchse should be promoted to CEO. The last CEO didn't work out, but that's no reason not to appoint another one.
We need a person of the calibre of Lukasz Kirszenstein overseeing an S&C programme, someone who has experience working in a professional sports environment. If it's good enough for the hurlers, why not the footballers ? the s&c coach should be independent of the county manager and they need to be fulltime.
I'm ambivalent about PJ staying or going. A new manager is not suddenly going to win Sam next year and our best young players, our mainstays for the years ahead, will need a couple of years experience yet to reach their potential. If the team could somehow improve next year, they might be in a better shape for a new manager to push on further.
Don't think too many are impressed with the hurlers S&C in the wake of Saturday's result, whatever Kirzenstein must have been doing with them.
i thought the hurlers didnt lack fitness against Waterford ? they weren't playing for each other a totally different thing.
Winning Sam is a nice goal, but i would be happy with instilling a process of continual improvement.
The team haven't improved in the last two years, so i can't see why that would change next year unless something changes.
If some of our best young players don't get good coaching now they may move on and forget about intercounty football.
Steve Hansen to Ireland after NZ beat them again in the RWC.
"Just because you've played for a long time, you might not have learned things you don't want to learn or you might have learned nothing along the way"
Quote from: thebackbar1 on July 27, 2021, 10:46:47 AM
i thought the hurlers didnt lack fitness against Waterford ? they weren't playing for each other a totally different thing.
Winning Sam is a nice goal, but i would be happy with instilling a process of continual improvement.
The team haven't improved in the last two years, so i can't see why that would change next year unless something changes.
If some of our best young players don't get good coaching now they may move on and forget about intercounty football.
The hurlers lacked pace though and bite, especially in the middle third when the game was still in the balance. This was obvious in the game against Dublin but not rectified afterwards, a very blatant management failure. Picking Loftus, who's too nice a player and who was replaced v BAC, and Linnane, a practical debutant with a history of leg injuries, was a disaster waiting to happen. Don't agree they didn't play for each other, they combined well enough in the closing stretches; not a lot you can do earlier in the game, on a sweltering day when you're being bossed out of it.
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Quote from: thebackbar1 on July 27, 2021, 10:46:47 AM
i thought the hurlers didnt lack fitness against Waterford ? they weren't playing for each other a totally different thing.
Winning Sam is a nice goal, but i would be happy with instilling a process of continual improvement.
The team haven't improved in the last two years, so i can't see why that would change next year unless something changes.
If some of our best young players don't get good coaching now they may move on and forget about intercounty football.
The hurlers lacked pace though and bite, especially in the middle third when the game was still in the balance. This was obvious in the game against Dublin but not rectified afterwards, a very blatant management failure. Picking Loftus, who's too nice a player and who was replaced v BAC, and Linnane, a practical debutant with a history of leg injuries, was a disaster waiting to happen. Don't agree they didn't play for each other, they combined well enough in the closing stretches; not a lot you can do earlier in the game, on a sweltering day when you're being bossed out of it.
They were also sloppy.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/nicky-english-if-cork-reach-croke-park-it-could-open-up-for-them-1.4629985
"Their touch was poor and they looked very slow. They made numerous mistakes, handling errors, poor distribution and left themselves open to a serious beating from a good team."
They have some psychological issues going back as far as the 2018 all Ireland final. They shouldn't be getting beaten by the likes of the Dubs and the Deise.
The S&C of the Galway set-up is trailing miles behind the top sides. I remember the first league game this year. I was shocked at the condition of the Kerry players. And that was even before a ball was thrown in. They were bursting out of their jerseys. Even lads who were a bit skinny last year. And they then proceeded to run us off and then hockey us off the pitch.
Look at the physical transformation of someone like Tommy Conroy for Mayo from last year to this. He's piled on muscle. An equivalent on the Galway side would be Robert Finnerty who is a very talented player but doesn't look any different this year than he did last. The body looks the same. There is no physical development there. Unless someone else can see it but I can't.
Galway can live with the other counties even in their current condition but there is a significant gap now to the top 3 maybe 4 sides at a push. You can stay with them for 50 odd minutes but they will burn you off in the last 20. A problem probably exacerbated by playing on a pitch like CP which suits teams that can keep running hard for 70+ minutes.
Also Mark Ronaldson made a good point in his article last week. How are so many players walking off the Galway panel? He said he couldn't remember the last time a Mayo player made himself unavailable to the county team. Granted it's easier to stay involved when there is the possibility of maybe competing for an AI title. But those missing players would have been very handy for Galway off the bench at the very least last weekend. Instead we had players coming on that hadn't togged out for Galway in 2 years and fans didn't even know were still on the panel.
Ye Galway lads are fairly beating yereselves up over the team's performances and overall set up!
Seems no panic or concern in Roscommon.... the only team Galway have bet (twice!) in the covid times.
Maybe we should be more concerned but I suppose underage exploits and forthcoming club championships have taken over.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 27, 2021, 12:02:31 PM
Ye Galway lads are fairly beating yereselves up over the team's performances and overall set up!
Seems no panic or concern in Roscommon.... the only team Galway have bet (twice!) in the covid times.
Maybe we should be more concerned but I suppose underage exploits and forthcoming club championships have taken over.
If there's no gut check for Galway GAA after this year then what's the point of competing at all really? It's plainly not good enough, I feel as bad about the footballers today as I did after the Mayo match in 2013, feels like we're going nowhere, there's no identity, no plan, nothing positive to point at really.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 27, 2021, 12:02:31 PM
Ye Galway lads are fairly beating yereselves up over the team's performances and overall set up!
Seems no panic or concern in Roscommon.... the only team Galway have bet (twice!) in the covid times.
Maybe we should be more concerned but I suppose underage exploits and forthcoming club championships have taken over.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/kevin-mcstay-i-was-surprised-by-roscommon-s-defensive-set-up-against-galway-1.4612125
Roscommon have had two championship games in two years and lost both. What does that do for the best group the county has produced since 1990? There is no new wave coming up behind them because the underage development has not been at a level to allow for that.
So it becomes a predictable shuffle. A team goes forward for a few years and then slips back dramatically.
I don't see things changing when the pandemic has passed because by then morale will be shot. Roscommon made a huge effort to make it to that next level but they are back at square one now.
I am not sure that crowds will come back in the numbers we take for granted. Why go to watch Leitrim or Sligo or Roscommon get pulverized by Galway and Mayo over the next few years? These teams and counties are lost: they are out of solutions.
If the GAA doesn't step in then we will have two or three counties dominating and the vast majority in retreat. Many counties will look at the cost of participation in terms of finance and time and figure it is not worth it.
The top teams are like a runaway train.
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Quote from: seafoid on July 27, 2021, 07:52:38 AM
Quote from: mouview on July 26, 2021, 04:06:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 26, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
All due respect to a legend of the game, we have seen nothing that indicates Galway are going to improve from here, will be an absolute dogfight to get back to Div One next year as well.
Not entirely his fault - Galway football problems are of a more systemic nature I feel and outside of a few players a lot of them have just not done it at Senior level - but the cold facts are what they are, Mayo have made a team transition without skipping a beat, people on about all the young players that have started for Galway, the Mayo young lads have come in and are winning, they look absolutely miles ahead in terms of conditioning, attitude and aggression.
Depressing enough really, I don't know do many people even care, if you look at the pathetic fund raising return from earlier in the year, the shambles that is the county website, everything points to a two bob operation.
For the people I see on social media trying to go on about Mayo's failure to land the big one to make themselves feel a bit better about the hames we are in at the moment it makes me cringe.
Mayo are the ones rightly laughing at us, 10 semi finals in 11 years, they are the only show in town West of the Shannon at the top table, Galway have had one good year in twenty and failed utterly to build off the back of that. Expecting some out of nowhere event like 98 to happen again is a Fools errant, we're hopelessly exposed in CP all the time and I've yet to hear a coherent plan about how Galway football is going to be turned around, forget the underage wins, we had those before and made no use of them, what's the plan to get Galway consistently playing in the later stages the Senior Championship?
Not saying it would be a panacea or anything, but one thing I would like to see is a more competitive domestic championship. Corofin's dominance has been a real drag on player development at club level I feel over the past decade and the championship has subsequently been of poor standard. With Moycullen - M/M contesting the most recent final maybe the portents in this area are about to change. It mightn't help our hurling counterparts too much but at least the championship there is of a much higher calibre and helps identify players with county potential.
Crossmaglen's multiple club all Irelands didn't do anything for Armagh.Similar for Athenry and Portumna in the hurling. Or St Thomas' ?
6 teams on a similar level develop over time and can generate a very decent pick.
Sure Galway wouldn't have won in 98 without being beaten by Mayo in 97.
Didn't do anything?
Crossmaglen Ulster titles 1996, 1998, 1999, 2004, 2006 and All-Ireland titles 1997, 1999, 2000, 2007
Armagh Ulster titles 1999, 2000, 2002, '04, '05, '06. All Ireland in 2002 and Division 1 title in 2005. In that period of time lost by 1 point to the eventual All-Ireland champions a few times.
When did Galway last retain a Connacht title? how many All-Ireland semi final appearances in the last 20 years? how many times did they lose to the eventual All-Ireland champions by 1 score?
When you answer those questions you should realise with all the club and underage All Ireland success there is no doubt that Galway seniors have been and continues to be the great underachievers of the last two decades.
The greatest underachievers of the last 2 decades is a very wide field.
Mayo winning an All Ireland is something that might provoke something positive in Galway.
I was disgusted with that 2nd half performance, Mayo didn't even have to work too hard to get all their scores. I don't recall Mayo kicking any points from difficult angles in the 2nd half or from distance, they were all within the scoring zone. No pressure applied on so many of those scores, Conroy waltzed past 3 or 4 Galway defenders and not a hand laid on him. Kevin McLaughlin's point another one where Durcan, Mullin and then McLaughlin were not confronted with any Galway player and Mayo didn't even attack with any great intensity, indicative of what went on in the 2nd half, as for Ruane's goal they should be embarrassed.
Its fairly obvious to anyone who's watched football the last decade that any team who has aspirations of winning an All Ireland that you need a fair degree of athleticism running through the team and sadly its something Galway really lack. Felt sorry for Comer, playing that man wing forward in Croke Park is ridiculous. Look at Durcan, Mullin, Ruane, Eoghan McLaughlin & Diarmuid O'Connor; These lads will run all day long and do it at pace in the middle 3rd of the pitch and it helps create so many easy scores for Mayo. Galway just don't have enough players who can replicate that. I think Paul Kelly & Cathal Sweeney are capable of it but their still both u20 and are probably a couple of years of matching the Mayo lads. Cooke & Tierney I'm sure will both get fitter but neither are blessed with great pace. McDaid has the pace and power to live with the Mayo lads but he's no use if he can't stay fit, John Daly too is a powerful runner. I can't believe we're in 2021 and still moaning about kickouts, Mayo won 9 I think on Sunday which is farcical, Gleeson is just not upto it. I appreciate its the lack of strategy too but on several occasions Gleeson just kicked it over the side-line, given how many Mayo won in the first half it was some sort of miracle Galway were 5 points up at half time.
Its probably not all doom and gloom as we're making out as there is plenty of talent there and a fair bit coming through but doesn't matter a jot unless the right people are in charge.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 26, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
All due respect to a legend of the game, we have seen nothing that indicates Galway are going to improve from here, will be an absolute dogfight to get back to Div One next year as well.
Not entirely his fault - Galway football problems are of a more systemic nature I feel and outside of a few players a lot of them have just not done it at Senior level - but the cold facts are what they are, Mayo have made a team transition without skipping a beat, people on about all the young players that have started for Galway, the Mayo young lads have come in and are winning, they look absolutely miles ahead in terms of conditioning, attitude and aggression.
Depressing enough really, I don't know do many people even care, if you look at the pathetic fund raising return from earlier in the year, the shambles that is the county website, everything points to a two bob operation.
For the people I see on social media trying to go on about Mayo's failure to land the big one to make themselves feel a bit better about the hames we are in at the moment it makes me cringe.
Mayo are the ones rightly laughing at us, 10 semi finals in 11 years, they are the only show in town West of the Shannon at the top table, Galway have had one good year in twenty and failed utterly to build off the back of that. Expecting some out of nowhere event like 98 to happen again is a Fools errant, we're hopelessly exposed in CP all the time and I've yet to hear a coherent plan about how Galway football is going to be turned around, forget the underage wins, we had those before and made no use of them, what's the plan to get Galway consistently playing in the later stages the Senior Championship?
D2 North will feature Meath, Down and Derry. Nothing special
I wonder if Corofins dominance is undermining the county's efforts
In Mayo there are typically 4 or 5 teams that have a realistic shot at winning it and recent finals have rarely had more than a kick of a ball between the teams at the end.
Think of a lad like Ruane from Breaffy....he's competing year in year out with the likes of the O Connors, Andy Moran, Paddy Durcan, Lee Keegan, and O Hora.
Even though Breaffy haven't won it yet, consistently playing against some of the best players in the country in close games is worth a year in the gym
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Quote from: Rossfan on July 27, 2021, 12:02:31 PM
Ye Galway lads are fairly beating yereselves up over the team's performances and overall set up!
Seems no panic or concern in Roscommon.... the only team Galway have bet (twice!) in the covid times.
Maybe we should be more concerned but I suppose underage exploits and forthcoming club championships have taken over.
If there's no gut check for Galway GAA after this year then what's the point of competing at all really? It's plainly not good enough, I feel as bad about the footballers today as I did after the Mayo match in 2013, feels like we're going nowhere, there's no identity, no plan, nothing positive to point at really.
+1
Saw Swanee earlier. Arm in sling inside his pullover.
Quote from: moysider on July 27, 2021, 07:01:51 PM
Saw Swanee earlier. Arm in sling inside his pullover.
Karma.
Quote from: mouview on July 27, 2021, 08:14:53 PM
Quote from: moysider on July 27, 2021, 07:01:51 PM
Saw Swanee earlier. Arm in sling inside his pullover.
Karma.
hopefully farragher breaks his leg so for injuring ohora? is that the shit you're resorting to?
Walsh tried to take down ohora, but ohora took him down instead. he didn't go out to get him. not sure the same can be said for the 'challenge' on ohora.
The maroon or green and red glasses are going to colour the opinion on this but if we're going to allow players to body slam the opposition at every coming together or jersey pull then let's go whole hog on it and just allow a violent free for all, might be one way to beat the Dubs!
What happened happened, O'Hora is a trained fighter and got away with it, best of luck to him. The officials did nothing or felt that there was nothing to do as the Mayo fans would make out, that's the only thing that matters really, It's starting to sound like whinging from Galway now so we should leave it off to the teams left and concentrate on our own myriad problems, Sunday is done and dusted.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 27, 2021, 09:12:11 PM
The maroon or green and red glasses are going to colour the opinion on this but if we're going to allow players to body slam the opposition at every coming together or jersey pull then let's go whole hog on it and just allow a violent free for all, might be one way to beat the Dubs!
What happened happened, O'Hora is a trained fighter and got away with it, best of luck to him. The officials did nothing or felt that there was nothing to do as the Mayo fans would make out, that's the only thing that matters really, It's starting to sound like whinging from Galway now so we should leave it off to the teams left and concentrate on our own myriad problems, Sunday is done and dusted.
Still does not make it ok! Believe me Dublin pulled some strokes themselves to get over the line the last ten years. What must be done, must be done. It takes a strong 7 officials to deal with these big calls in a big game.
QuoteThe maroon or green and red glasses are going to colour the opinion on this but if we're going to allow players to body slam the opposition at every coming together or jersey pull then let's go whole hog on it and just allow a violent free for all, might be one way to beat the Dubs!
What happened happened, O'Hora is a trained fighter and got away with it, best of luck to him. The officials did nothing or felt that there was nothing to do as the Mayo fans would make out, that's the only thing that matters really, It's starting to sound like whinging from Galway now so we should leave it off to the teams left and concentrate on our own myriad problems, Sunday is done and dusted.
The officials don't do their jobs. Finnerty started handbags with O'Hora from the get go under the eyes of umpires and linesmen. The refs are afraid to hand out yellow cards to early. If it was a club game they'd have both got yellows and it might have stopped the off the ball carry on.
Galway should've learned and had yer lesson years ago via Colm Boyle on Comer not to get involved in the fisticuffs against us.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 27, 2021, 09:12:11 PM
The maroon or green and red glasses are going to colour the opinion on this but if we're going to allow players to body slam the opposition at every coming together or jersey pull then let's go whole hog on it and just allow a violent free for all, might be one way to beat the Dubs!
What happened happened, O'Hora is a trained fighter and got away with it, best of luck to him. The officials did nothing or felt that there was nothing to do as the Mayo fans would make out, that's the only thing that matters really, It's starting to sound like whinging from Galway now so we should leave it off to the teams left and concentrate on our own myriad problems, Sunday is done and dusted.
Agreed. Some pretty distasteful views going about on this now so better to bury it.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 27, 2021, 09:12:11 PM
The maroon or green and red glasses are going to colour the opinion on this but if we're going to allow players to body slam the opposition at every coming together or jersey pull then let's go whole hog on it and just allow a violent free for all, might be one way to beat the Dubs!
What happened happened, O'Hora is a trained fighter and got away with it, best of luck to him. The officials did nothing or felt that there was nothing to do as the Mayo fans would make out, that's the only thing that matters really, It's starting to sound like whinging from Galway now so we should leave it off to the teams left and concentrate on our own myriad problems, Sunday is done and dusted.
Compared to what O' Shea and the O Connors have had to put up with from Dublin over the years, Galway should pack it in altogether if theyre getting their underpants in a knot over what happened last Sunday.
Quote from: highorlow on July 27, 2021, 11:02:22 PM
QuoteThe maroon or green and red glasses are going to colour the opinion on this but if we're going to allow players to body slam the opposition at every coming together or jersey pull then let's go whole hog on it and just allow a violent free for all, might be one way to beat the Dubs!
What happened happened, O'Hora is a trained fighter and got away with it, best of luck to him. The officials did nothing or felt that there was nothing to do as the Mayo fans would make out, that's the only thing that matters really, It's starting to sound like whinging from Galway now so we should leave it off to the teams left and concentrate on our own myriad problems, Sunday is done and dusted.
The officials don't do their jobs. Finnerty started handbags with O'Hora from the get go under the eyes of umpires and linesmen. The refs are afraid to hand out yellow cards to early. If it was a club game they'd have both got yellows and it might have stopped the off the ball carry on.
Galway should've learned and had yer lesson years ago via Colm Boyle on Comer not to get involved in the fisticuffs against us.
That incident was a classic fair shoulder, superbly done, as far from needless fisticuffs as you could get. A couple of years later Comer similarly buried Diarmiud O'Connor in a match ye lost in Salthill, so what's to learn on this lesson apart from if you don't ruthlessly come with everything it's a waste of time? I'd always be of the opinion that Slyvie Linanne's maxim that "
ye'll win nothing if ye haven't a few tinkers in the team" is generally correct and Galway lack any lads who'll go through a wall and the rules to win at the minute.
In fairness ye have earned the right to be so arrogantly dismissive, Mayo are miles ahead so ye can say what ye want, doesn't look like Galway will be in any position to have bragging rights any time soon.
Quote from: whitey on July 28, 2021, 12:07:19 AM
Compared to what O' Shea and the O Connors have had to put up with from Dublin over the years, Galway should pack it in altogether if theyre getting their underpants in a knot over what happened last Sunday.
Yeah, the two O'Connors are a pair of put upon angels alright.
Whether we should pack it in is a question worth answering though, certainly not fit for purpose at the moment anyway.
We will be back on our arse soon enough. For all our Big talk, it amounts to nothing without the Canister. In relation to Galway, better to be well beaten and sore than to lose by a point (Like last year), think you are not far away and be mildly content drifting into another year.
As for Mayo winning Sam driving Galway on. I think it would drive Mayo on even more.
And if you are sickened listening to us now. Can you image us after winning an AI?
All the talk about Mayo's S&C superiority got me thinking about Colm McMenamin. He could run like the duracell bunny but was never a great scorer.
Quote from: whitey on July 28, 2021, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 27, 2021, 09:12:11 PM
The maroon or green and red glasses are going to colour the opinion on this but if we're going to allow players to body slam the opposition at every coming together or jersey pull then let's go whole hog on it and just allow a violent free for all, might be one way to beat the Dubs!
What happened happened, O'Hora is a trained fighter and got away with it, best of luck to him. The officials did nothing or felt that there was nothing to do as the Mayo fans would make out, that's the only thing that matters really, It's starting to sound like whinging from Galway now so we should leave it off to the teams left and concentrate on our own myriad problems, Sunday is done and dusted.
Compared to what O' Shea and the O Connors have had to put up with from Dublin over the years, Galway should pack it in altogether if theyre getting their underpants in a knot over what happened last Sunday.
A golden unwritten rule among boxers is never to practice their art outside of the ring. O'Hora, and I hadn't realised he had MMA training until subsequent to the match, slammed Walsh on the ground in a manner that could have caused serious shoulder or neck injuries. The fact that he has martial arts training means that he should have enough discipline to react only in a self-defensive manner, not aggressively. It's unlikely that Walsh (of all people) was putting O'Hora under too much duress. Imagine the outcry there would be if a trained boxer broke a player's jaw or neck during a match with a punch?
Best of luck to Mayo from here on, sincerely I want to see them win Sam, but the above incident I find distasteful and one that warrants further investigation.
Quote from: seafoid on July 28, 2021, 10:27:43 AM
All the talk about Mayo's S&C superiority got me thinking about Colm McMenamin. He could run like the duracell bunny but was never a great scorer.
Jez Seafoid, that nearly quarter of a century since Colm donned the jersey? Hardly relevant to any discussion today.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2021, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 28, 2021, 10:27:43 AM
All the talk about Mayo's S&C superiority got me thinking about Colm McMenamin. He could run like the duracell bunny but was never a great scorer.
Jez Seafoid, that nearly quarter of a century since Colm donned the jersey? Hardly relevant to any discussion today.
Not if the 6 or 7 gym bunnies recruited by Horan score 0-4 each against Dublin. But if they don't I think it should be mentioned.
Quote from: seafoid on July 28, 2021, 03:42:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2021, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 28, 2021, 10:27:43 AM
All the talk about Mayo's S&C superiority got me thinking about Colm McMenamin. He could run like the duracell bunny but was never a great scorer.
Jez Seafoid, that nearly quarter of a century since Colm donned the jersey? Hardly relevant to any discussion today.
Not if the 6 or 7 gym bunnies recruited by Horan score 0-4 each against Dublin. But if they don't I think it should be mentioned.
Don't be worrying yourself about Mayo and
the 6 or 7 gym bunnies recruited by Horan score 0-4 each against Dublin. We'll be brought swiftly down to earth in a few weeks time.
The media will jump once again on the
Great Mayo/Dublin rivalry. A rivalry that is one of the most one sided since 2012 in League and Championship.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2021, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 28, 2021, 03:42:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2021, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 28, 2021, 10:27:43 AM
All the talk about Mayo's S&C superiority got me thinking about Colm McMenamin. He could run like the duracell bunny but was never a great scorer.
Jez Seafoid, that nearly quarter of a century since Colm donned the jersey? Hardly relevant to any discussion today.
Not if the 6 or 7 gym bunnies recruited by Horan score 0-4 each against Dublin. But if they don't I think it should be mentioned.
Don't be worrying yourself about Mayo and the 6 or 7 gym bunnies recruited by Horan score 0-4 each against Dublin. We'll be brought swiftly down to earth in a few weeks time.
The media will jump once again on the Great Mayo/Dublin rivalry. A rivalry that is one of the most one sided since 2012 in League and Championship.
is there any team you hate more than Mayo.
you going on with same shite for years and mayo keep getting better and better.
Losing all Irelands and is a pleasure most counties know nothing look at how long since such strong counties have even got there
where as mayo have just Qualified for their 10th out of 11 Semi-finals with a new exciiting team and you cant even bring yourself to say its a good thing . ::)
Quote from: rosnarun on July 28, 2021, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2021, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 28, 2021, 03:42:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2021, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 28, 2021, 10:27:43 AM
All the talk about Mayo's S&C superiority got me thinking about Colm McMenamin. He could run like the duracell bunny but was never a great scorer.
Jez Seafoid, that nearly quarter of a century since Colm donned the jersey? Hardly relevant to any discussion today.
Not if the 6 or 7 gym bunnies recruited by Horan score 0-4 each against Dublin. But if they don't I think it should be mentioned.
Don't be worrying yourself about Mayo and the 6 or 7 gym bunnies recruited by Horan score 0-4 each against Dublin. We'll be brought swiftly down to earth in a few weeks time.
The media will jump once again on the Great Mayo/Dublin rivalry. A rivalry that is one of the most one sided since 2012 in League and Championship.
is there any team you hate more than Mayo.
you going on with same shite for years and mayo keep getting better and better.
Losing all Irelands and is a pleasure most counties know nothing look at how long since such strong counties have even got there
where as mayo have just Qualified for their 10th out of 11 Semi-finals with a new exciiting team and you cant even bring yourself to say its a good thing . ::)
10 out of 11 semi final appearances is a remarkable achievement. Mayo in fairness have produced great teams over the last 11 years. I was at the Connacht final in 2011, didn't think that Mayo team were up to much, they certainly proved me wrong. They have a knack of producing tight, aggressive, pacy defenders.
Quote from: rosnarun on July 28, 2021, 05:52:58 PM
is there any team you hate more than Mayo.
you going on with same shite for years and mayo keep getting better and better.
Losing all Irelands and is a pleasure most counties know nothing look at how long since such strong counties have even got there
where as mayo have just Qualified for their 10th out of 11 Semi-finals with a new exciiting team and you cant even bring yourself to say its a good thing . ::)
I have nothing but the height of admiration for Mayo football, especially since 2011. Nothing filled me with more joy than McLoughlin, O'Sea, Keegan and Hennelly getting to enjoy winning a Connacht Championship in Croker.
I'm only calling it as it is. No one will be happier if we put Dublin on their arse, but this will be a waste of time if we hand Kerry a handy AI like Donegal did in 2014 and we did for Donegal in 2012.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2021, 06:35:05 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 28, 2021, 05:52:58 PM
is there any team you hate more than Mayo.
you going on with same shite for years and mayo keep getting better and better.
Losing all Irelands and is a pleasure most counties know nothing look at how long since such strong counties have even got there
where as mayo have just Qualified for their 10th out of 11 Semi-finals with a new exciiting team and you cant even bring yourself to say its a good thing . ::)
I have nothing but the height of admiration for Mayo football, especially since 2011. Nothing filled me with more joy than McLoughlin, O'Sea, Keegan and Hennelly getting to enjoy winning a Connacht Championship in Croker.
I'm only calling it as it is. No one will be happier if we put Dublin on their arse, but this will be a waste of time if we hand Kerry a handy AI like Donegal did in 2014 and we did for Donegal in 2012.
Easy tiger ... nothing easy about 2012. 8)
Quote from: StephenC on July 28, 2021, 09:49:18 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2021, 06:35:05 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 28, 2021, 05:52:58 PM
is there any team you hate more than Mayo.
you going on with same shite for years and mayo keep getting better and better.
Losing all Irelands and is a pleasure most counties know nothing look at how long since such strong counties have even got there
where as mayo have just Qualified for their 10th out of 11 Semi-finals with a new exciiting team and you cant even bring yourself to say its a good thing . ::)
I have nothing but the height of admiration for Mayo football, especially since 2011. Nothing filled me with more joy than McLoughlin, O'Sea, Keegan and Hennelly getting to enjoy winning a Connacht Championship in Croker.
I'm only calling it as it is. No one will be happier if we put Dublin on their arse, but this will be a waste of time if we hand Kerry a handy AI like Donegal did in 2014 and we did for Donegal in 2012.
Easy tiger ... nothing easy about 2012. 8)
Ah come on we gave ye a 7 point start!
As good a team as Mayo has to get to 10 semi and not win 1 final once. Is very poor no matter the opposition.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 29, 2021, 12:03:34 AM
As good a team as Mayo has to get to 10 semi and not win 1 final once. Is very poor no matter the opposition.
Apart from Donegal in 2014 remind me of all the other teams that have beaten Dublin when this poor Mayo team couldn't???
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2021, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: StephenC on July 28, 2021, 09:49:18 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2021, 06:35:05 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 28, 2021, 05:52:58 PM
is there any team you hate more than Mayo.
you going on with same shite for years and mayo keep getting better and better.
Losing all Irelands and is a pleasure most counties know nothing look at how long since such strong counties have even got there
where as mayo have just Qualified for their 10th out of 11 Semi-finals with a new exciiting team and you cant even bring yourself to say its a good thing . ::)
I have nothing but the height of admiration for Mayo football, especially since 2011. Nothing filled me with more joy than McLoughlin, O'Sea, Keegan and Hennelly getting to enjoy winning a Connacht Championship in Croker.
I'm only calling it as it is. No one will be happier if we put Dublin on their arse, but this will be a waste of time if we hand Kerry a handy AI like Donegal did in 2014 and we did for Donegal in 2012.
Easy tiger ... nothing easy about 2012. 8)
Ah come on we gave ye a 7 point start!
Get up the yard.
Quote from: Rudi on July 28, 2021, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 28, 2021, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2021, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 28, 2021, 03:42:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2021, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 28, 2021, 10:27:43 AM
All the talk about Mayo's S&C superiority got me thinking about Colm McMenamin. He could run like the duracell bunny but was never a great scorer.
Jez Seafoid, that nearly quarter of a century since Colm donned the jersey? Hardly relevant to any discussion today.
Not if the 6 or 7 gym bunnies recruited by Horan score 0-4 each against Dublin. But if they don't I think it should be mentioned.
Don't be worrying yourself about Mayo and the 6 or 7 gym bunnies recruited by Horan score 0-4 each against Dublin. We'll be brought swiftly down to earth in a few weeks time.
The media will jump once again on the Great Mayo/Dublin rivalry. A rivalry that is one of the most one sided since 2012 in League and Championship.
is there any team you hate more than Mayo.
you going on with same shite for years and mayo keep getting better and better.
Losing all Irelands and is a pleasure most counties know nothing look at how long since such strong counties have even got there
where as mayo have just Qualified for their 10th out of 11 Semi-finals with a new exciiting team and you cant even bring yourself to say its a good thing . ::)
10 out of 11 semi final appearances is a remarkable achievement. Mayo in fairness have produced great teams over the last 11 years. I was at the Connacht final in 2011, didn't think that Mayo team were up to much, they certainly proved me wrong. They have a knack of producing tight, aggressive, pacy defenders.
Its a serious achievement, everyone in the county pulls in the same direction. How often do you hear of a Mayo man not making himself available whereas in Galway its a familiar theme every year.
I'm sure Mayo will look back with regret to not winning the big one but they've exhausted all options when it comes to talent and made the most out of what they've got, just probably a forward light of winning 2 or 3 All Irelands.
Sometimes a very good team is unlucky to come up against a very dominant team and unable to win Sam.
This happened to Roscommon and Monaghan in the late 70s/80s and is happening to Mayo now.
Sometimes success is about timing.
Quote from: Crete Boom on July 29, 2021, 02:14:49 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 29, 2021, 12:03:34 AM
As good a team as Mayo has to get to 10 semi and not win 1 final once. Is very poor no matter the opposition.
Apart from Donegal in 2014 remind me of all the other teams that have beaten Dublin when this poor Mayo team couldn't???
Dublin lost 3 games in the AI series(es) 2010 to 2020 incl.
Won around 30 and a draw or 2.
Definitely a runner for team of the decade.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 29, 2021, 12:03:34 AM
As good a team as Mayo has to get to 10 semi and not win 1 final once. Is very poor no matter the opposition.
Kildare FM are plugging Kildare's first Leinster Final for 4 years but football is going through a very strange phase.
The Dubs won and stayed at the top.
Nobody else got a look in.
Kerry lost 4 in a row, previously 2 was the maximum.
Everybody got hammered.
Mayo deserve credit for standing up to them.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 29, 2021, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: Crete Boom on July 29, 2021, 02:14:49 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 29, 2021, 12:03:34 AM
As good a team as Mayo has to get to 10 semi and not win 1 final once. Is very poor no matter the opposition.
Apart from Donegal in 2014 remind me of all the other teams that have beaten Dublin when this poor Mayo team couldn't???
Dublin lost 3 games in the AI series(es) 2010 to 2020 incl.
Won around 30 and a draw or 2.
Hard to lose when you play at home all the time
Quote from: seafoid on July 29, 2021, 10:13:59 AM
Sometimes a very good team is unlucky to come up against a very dominant team and unable to win Sam.
This happened to Roscommon and Monaghan in the late 70s/80s and is happening to Mayo now.
Sometimes success is about timing.
absolutely no comparison , ros contested one all ireland , as for monaghan , seriously ?
https://www.facebook.com/734989616564617/posts/4666650883398451/?d=n
Good interview but him crying about getting injured by O'Hora is a joke tbh, he initiated the off the ball tussle and came out the worst.
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 20, 2021, 10:14:50 AM
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Good interview but him crying about getting injured by O'Hora is a joke tbh, he initiated the off the ball tussle and came out the worst.
I agree completely that you shouldn't be crying about foul play that officials missed, especially this long after. But to say Walsh initiated it based on one clip is a bit silly. You're ignoring everything that went before, and if you blindly/wrongly took it that nothing went before, it doesn't mean O'Hora's foul play in that incident was justified.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/shane-walsh-calls-for-gaa-to-look-at-introducing-a-tmo-1.4705031
It's not yet three months since his Connacht final effectively ended before half-time when Walsh was involved in an off-the-ball incident with Mayo defender Pádraig O'Hora. Such was the hurt in his shoulder he required a pain-killing injection at half-time, and although he played on, his influence – which had included 1-1 in the first half – was obviously hindered.
"The news after it was that I cracked the bone in the shoulder, and torn ligaments, and there was a lot of bruising around the shoulder," Walsh says. "So I missed the next eight weeks about. Missed our first club championship game, back for the last two. But my fitness wasn't where I'd like it to be because I was in a sling for the guts of three or four weeks as well. Not too fond of it. It kind of happens in games too, but frustrating.
"I was trying to get anything to numb the pain in the shoulder to be honest. After the initial incident happened, I thought I was fine. I thought it might be just the bang after I was pulled to the ground. But I kicked a free just after that with my left foot and the shock from the nerves – it sent a trigger up to my right shoulder. Initially I was in agony. I said I'd get to half-time, I was trying then to do anything, said if I could numb it at all, I'll deal with the repercussions afterwards. That's the bullish notions you get when you're in the middle of a game."
For all the talk of championship structure , Walsh believes another pressing issue is to give more support for referees, whether that's a Television Match Official (TMO) or Video Assistant Referee (VAR).
"I'd probably be one who would be in favour of a TMO coming into GAA because there is an awful lot of stuff like that going on. For me, it's very frustrating. Your championship game is taken away from you in a couple of seconds. In fairness, if it happens on the ball, you're unlucky and it happens. But it wasn't on the ball.
Quote from: seafoid on October 22, 2021, 12:31:39 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/shane-walsh-calls-for-gaa-to-look-at-introducing-a-tmo-1.4705031
It's not yet three months since his Connacht final effectively ended before half-time when Walsh was involved in an off-the-ball incident with Mayo defender Pádraig O'Hora. Such was the hurt in his shoulder he required a pain-killing injection at half-time, and although he played on, his influence – which had included 1-1 in the first half – was obviously hindered.
"The news after it was that I cracked the bone in the shoulder, and torn ligaments, and there was a lot of bruising around the shoulder," Walsh says. "So I missed the next eight weeks about. Missed our first club championship game, back for the last two. But my fitness wasn't where I'd like it to be because I was in a sling for the guts of three or four weeks as well. Not too fond of it. It kind of happens in games too, but frustrating.
"I was trying to get anything to numb the pain in the shoulder to be honest. After the initial incident happened, I thought I was fine. I thought it might be just the bang after I was pulled to the ground. But I kicked a free just after that with my left foot and the shock from the nerves – it sent a trigger up to my right shoulder. Initially I was in agony. I said I'd get to half-time, I was trying then to do anything, said if I could numb it at all, I'll deal with the repercussions afterwards. That's the bullish notions you get when you're in the middle of a game."
For all the talk of championship structure , Walsh believes another pressing issue is to give more support for referees, whether that's a Television Match Official (TMO) or Video Assistant Referee (VAR).
"I'd probably be one who would be in favour of a TMO coming into GAA because there is an awful lot of stuff like that going on. For me, it's very frustrating. Your championship game is taken away from you in a couple of seconds. In fairness, if it happens on the ball, you're unlucky and it happens. But it wasn't on the ball.
Following that logic Walsh would have also been black carded for his initial foul on O Hora
Oisin Mullin away down under by the looks of it. Shame but best of luck to him
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 04, 2021, 11:13:27 AM
Oisin Mullin away down under by the looks of it. Shame but best of luck to him
Only for Covid he would have been away a few years ago it seems. Be interesting to see can he establish himself out there or return back to Mayo in a few years.
Any hints from Bekan as to whether the trip to London will be the cancelled 2020 one by Ros or the 2022 sequenced one?
Is the NY trip still happening now that NY want to play in the Tailteann?
Mullin will be a loss to the Rhus right enough.