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Any word when ccc are meeting to agree a fixture plan? Surely now we know T20 final is on 30th May and ACL start date confirmed as 5th June, the least we can expect is a fixture plan so lads can plan accordingly for a hectic summer.

It has been confirmed. 5th June. Then following weekend is a double weekend, Friday and Sunday.

That may not happen on that following Sunday. Tyrone are due to play that day in the second round of the championship irrespective if they win this Sunday or not

[The grief however is much easier to figure out when you consider that for a few weeks teams are expected to play 2 games a week for a number of weeks. With the latest start ever now proposed this will only be worse than ever.]

What is the plan for senior football now? 29th May? Would be latest start to a season ever. Madness.

Think going forward from next year club senior football needs to start regardless of Tyrone U-20s. County Board needs to show leadership on this issue.

I can't understand the grief the county board gets about this, it is the county committee made up of all club delegates that decided no club ball until U20"s are over, certain clubs refuse to play without their U20's, the CB can't overrule the wishes of the clubs at county committee level. It is these clubs that need to be held accountable or else the full league set up needs changed, the county board put options to clubs about this but proposed changes got shot down. It looks like senior league won't start until 5th June

I can see both sides but id have to imagine its a very finite number of clubs affected by the players they're missing so it has to be oldfashionedness etc. keeping the change from coming from the masses.

The grief however is much easier to figure out when you consider that for a few weeks teams are expected to play 2 games a week for a number of weeks. With the latest start ever now proposed this will only be worse than ever.

Wasnt all this change for player welfare? I know in our own club its impossible to get even the club physio when it gets to this time of year as lads are being flogged with games after having trained for 8-9 months and then trying to balance work/games/rehab particularly in that busy spell is very difficult.

But with all this said at least poor little Ardboe dont have to play their early league fixtures without 2/3young boys. Im being sarcastic here and using Ardboe as an example but the point stands. A proper restructure is needed

When I looked at the proposals at the end of last year regarding the restructuring of the leagues to decouple Senior and 2nds football it was apparent that we are putting the wrong people in post to come up with these plans. People will vote for 4game leagues etc because they want any kind of change. but the right change isn't being put onto paper for voting.
 

Round 2 & 3 will be played on Friday 12th and Sunday 14th and then one more double game week at a later stage. That concludes the leagues for first week in September including July break. Hardly that excessive when you actually look at it.

Madness to start like that. No games for 8 months then 3 games in 9 days.

Would it not make more sense to go Friday 5th, Friday 12, Wednesday 17, Sunday 21 then back to Fridays again. That way we would have 6 played before the holiday break

So the ordinary club player gets a brutal schedule of games fired at them as usual. None of our county managers would let their teams play twice in 48 hours but the county board expect the club player to do it

Surely spread the games out to midweek rather than 2 over a weekend is the more logical thing to do.

In addition to this, Tyrone's 2nd fixture in the championship (irrespective if they win or lose their first one) is down for 13/14th June

That's some mgmt team Derrytresk have.. not sure they have the squad depth to challenge though

Who is all involved in the set up? That was a good start to the season for the Hill

I believe the best solution is that every game remains for 2 points and use the 2nd set of fixtures whereby 'county heavy' teams play each other and are all at a 'lesser disadvantage' than playing teams with no county representation

Senior club fixtures are out

Round 1

Eglish v Donaghmore
Edendork v Loughmacrory
Trillick v Errigal Ciaran
Coalisland v Ardboe
Dungannon v Omagh
Galbally v An Charraig Mhór
Moortown v Clonoe
An Droim Mór v Killycloghe

Round 2

Omagh v An Droim Mór
An Charraig Mhór v Dungannon
Moortown v Galbally
Donaghmore v Killyclogher
Loughmacrory v Clonoe
Ardboe v Edendork
Errigal v Coalisland
Trillick v Eglish

Round 3
Edendork v Errigal Ciaran
Loughmacrory v Trillick
Clonoe v Eglish
Killyclogher v Ardboe
An Droim Mór v Coalisland
Donaghmore v Dungannon
An Charraig Mhór v Moortown
Galbally v Omagh


Round 4
Errigal Ciaran v Loughmacrory
Trillick v Donaghmore
Omagh v Killyclogher
Ardboe v An Droim Mór
Eglish v Galbally
Coalisland v Clonoe
Dungannon v Moortown
Edendork v An Charraig Mhór

Round 5

Errigal Ciaran v Eglish
Clonoe v Dungannon
Moortown v Edendork
Loughmacrory v An Droim Mór
Omagh v Ardboe
An Charraig Mhór v Trillick
Galbally v Donaghmore
Killyclogher v Coalisland

Are these fixtures confirmed? Are they all Starred  fixtures....?

Few senior clubs with county men have got the raw end of the deal if these fixtures are confirmed....

Fianna with 4 county men play Clonoe & Ardboe who have none plus Killyclogher who have 1 - hardly fair

Edendork (4 men) play Ardboe & Moortown with no men plus Carmen with 1 man - again very unfair

Eglish (3 men) play Galbally & Clonoe who both have none - not fair either

Donaghmore (4 men) play Galbally with none, Clarkes with 1 and Killyclogher with 1 - unfair again

Lough (4 men) play Clonoe with none and Dromore with 1 - again unfair

Surely there is a cluster of teams with 3+ county men - is the obvious thing not to have them all play each other for the starred game system.

There must be a reasonable explanation for these games above but I simply can't see how it is fair.

Teams getting punished for having county men is not fair

Clubs that have more county players than other clubs have always had that disadvantage which is why the county board have brought in the new rule this season that a win in a starred game is worth 2 points but a win in a non starred game is worth 3 points.

Surely that seems fair?

Clubs with county players should be playing other clubs with county players and if there is a 1 or 2 disadvantage then that can't be avoided.

But to ask clubs with 3/4/5 county men to play clubs with none it is just not fair - plain and simple.

There are quite a few clubs in Tyrone with 3+ county players. Surely the obvious thing to do is to have them play each other in the starred series and therefore any possible disadvantages are at a minimum.

Donegal have the best player in the competition in Finbar Roarty. They were unlucky in the final last year but should beat Tyrone.

Roarty is a very special player. But will Jim let him play as the seniors play Down 4 days later in USFC?

This applies to 3/4 Donegal players who are involved in both teams

Senior club fixtures are out

Round 1

Eglish v Donaghmore
Edendork v Loughmacrory
Trillick v Errigal Ciaran
Coalisland v Ardboe
Dungannon v Omagh
Galbally v An Charraig Mhór
Moortown v Clonoe
An Droim Mór v Killycloghe

Round 2

Omagh v An Droim Mór
An Charraig Mhór v Dungannon
Moortown v Galbally
Donaghmore v Killyclogher
Loughmacrory v Clonoe
Ardboe v Edendork
Errigal v Coalisland
Trillick v Eglish

Round 3
Edendork v Errigal Ciaran
Loughmacrory v Trillick
Clonoe v Eglish
Killyclogher v Ardboe
An Droim Mór v Coalisland
Donaghmore v Dungannon
An Charraig Mhór v Moortown
Galbally v Omagh


Round 4
Errigal Ciaran v Loughmacrory
Trillick v Donaghmore
Omagh v Killyclogher
Ardboe v An Droim Mór
Eglish v Galbally
Coalisland v Clonoe
Dungannon v Moortown
Edendork v An Charraig Mhór

Round 5

Errigal Ciaran v Eglish
Clonoe v Dungannon
Moortown v Edendork
Loughmacrory v An Droim Mór
Omagh v Ardboe
An Charraig Mhór v Trillick
Galbally v Donaghmore
Killyclogher v Coalisland

Are these fixtures confirmed? Are they all Starred  fixtures....?

Few senior clubs with county men have got the raw end of the deal if these fixtures are confirmed....

Fianna with 4 county men play Clonoe & Ardboe who have none plus Killyclogher who have 1 - hardly fair

Edendork (4 men) play Ardboe & Moortown with no men plus Carmen with 1 man - again very unfair

Eglish (3 men) play Galbally & Clonoe who both have none - not fair either

Donaghmore (4 men) play Galbally with none, Clarkes with 1 and Killyclogher with 1 - unfair again

Lough (4 men) play Clonoe with none and Dromore with 1 - again unfair

Surely there is a cluster of teams with 3+ county men - is the obvious thing not to have them all play each other for the starred game system.

There must be a reasonable explanation for these games above but I simply can't see how it is fair.

Teams getting punished for having county men is not fair

24th April weekend im hearing

Was always Friday May 1st as the earliest start date assuming 20's didn't get to Ulster Final then a 1 week delay for every stage after that

Tyrone have went to Ulster GAA before about the calendar issues and Ulster came back with the current group stage nonsense at U17 and U20 level. Ridiculous amount of games to get to the Quarter Final stage - harder to get knocked out than it is to win the damn thing.
The Sigerson system is a much better one and it is the one being adapted at Senior level, so I would say it will come in at U17 and U20 at some stage.

Sigerson system is a very good one - think Derry & Down use it for their club senior championship also

The U20 competition needs a total revamp and that is even with Tyrone benefitting from the system in the last 2 seasons.

U20/21 was always straight KO up until starting 2024 seasons (I think I am correct)

Tyrone won it in 2022 and were beat in 2023 in first round by Down but no second chance.

There possibly was an argument for a back door system to allow a second game but to change the system to this one now is laughable. A group stage to get to 1/4 then semi then final !!

Unbelievable to be honest.

Did Tyrone lose in group stage in 2024?

I know they did last year but ended up wining the AI....

It has served us well admittedly but if it was straight KO or 1 back door game then arguably our club leagues could maybe start earlier

The U20 competition is far too prolonged and drawn out in my opinion

Knew there were more but couldn't think. How could i have left out Murnin and Joey...Murning will be close to fitness for Tyrone game, not sure if he'll start but could get last 15 mins. Where does Mackin fit into this Armagh team if fit?. Getting the injured men back just strengthens the bench

Hughes

Burns
McKay
McCambridge/McGrane

McQuillan
TK
Burns

Crealey
Murnin

McCormack
McMullen
McCabbe

Conaty
Duffy
McConville

Mackin maybe instead of Duffy in that workhorse role? O O'Neill and Turbo brilliant bench options and Grugan if fit

Forker or Grugan available?

Great Armagh performance in the Athletic Grounds, don't think that result was expected. I said last week after the game in Newry Armagh won without our big guns playing well, they played much better 2nite. Aaron Haughey (taken off last week) was my MOTM, some performance by him, Eoin Duffy excellent again. Their wasn't a bad performance on the Armagh side tbf. I thought we played at an intensity Cavan couldn't match.

El Classico next week in the AG should be a clinker.

2 x El Classico games in the AG in the space of 5 days - brilliant.

The best place in Ulster to watch a game, bar none.

Tyrone are capable of scoring heavily in AG and possibly getting around 24/25 points but can our leaky defence keep Armagh below that.

Doubtful if we go on current form as Armagh scored heavily in most games against better defensive set ups than Tyrone at the moment

Senior set up seemingly away to Portugal for 5 days next week in preparation for championship.

Hopefully it has the right effect going forward for the remainder of the season

Worst Tyrone team I've seen for years; stupid passes, carrying into trouble, constantly giving the ball away

Easily the worst tyrone team in last 15 years

They were never as bad as this 15 years ago !

Been supporting Tyrone since 1984 and the lowest point for me was the Division 3 defeat to Antrim at Coalisland in November 1993. We aren't at that stage yet but worringly we are now closer to that level  than being a decent Division 1 team again.

Not sure you are correct on that. No way were Tyrone playing Division 3 in 1993 if they were in the national league division 1 final in 1992 v Derry.
Back then was it not 1A & 1B as Division 1 and the top 2 in each section played the NFL semi final. Antrim were possibly in 1B but I stand corrected but definitely sure Tyrone were not in Div 3