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Whatever your political affiliations that's too classless to be true.

Just on the ICE and deportations and immigrant numbers, US is so politicised it's hard to believe any numbers comes out of there, especially from the WH. Everything has a slant on it. Obama was a dem, but during Trump's first term the spiel was he threw far more people into cages and deported, than Trump every did. Now it's the dem's sat on their hands and let things go so badly that it requires masked agents to go round the streets rounding up people. Which is it? Or is it not the dems but just Biden and Kamala? Fake news indeed.

I live in Massachusetts

Rapists murderers and drug dealers are being released into the community due to sanctuary policies

I find that equally as offensive as what ICE is doing

[who is permitted to be in the country? If a citizen with such a history moves in next door, should we be less concerned than we would be if they were an illegal immigrant]

Sorry whitey, but there's no equivalency or equal level of disgrace. While i've stated multiple times that I think people who've served sentences for violent crimes should absolutely be held and handed over even where ICE doesn't have a judicial warrant (and they are in some places with other sanctuary policies), they are still free to pick the convicts up the second they walk out through the prison gates. It's not like ICE under Biden and Obama weren't targeting criminals either. The issue is that under Trump they're going after all kinds of law-abiding people who've been here for years, paying taxes and living blameless, productive lives, literally abducting them out of their jobs and personal lives without warning.

But to get back to the serious offenders you're focussed on, is an illegal immigrant who is also a convicted murderer or rapist more dangerous to the community than a citizen or someone else who is permitted to be in the country? If a citizen with such a history moves in next door, should we be less concerned than we would be if they were an illegal immigrant?  What percentage of rapists and murderers who have served their time are illegal immigrants?


I completely disagree-Democrats releasing people into the community who are drug dealers, murderers or rapists is equally as outrageous what Trump is currently doing with ICE

If a rapist was moving in next door to me and there was a legal mechanism by which it could be prevented and the authorities refused to enforce that mechanism then that would be a huge problem

We can't deport people who are in the country legally

We can deport people who are in the country illegally

So if we can get shut of a rapist, a murderer or a drug dealer why wouldn't we?

It was a good post, but obviously he thinks there's bad guys only on one side

I'm sure as a "liberal" living in Deep Red Texas, Puckoon is driven absolutely insane by the flat out fvckery he witnesses on a daily basis

As a "conservative" living in Massachusetts I deal with the other side of the same coin

My question for Puckoon and J70 and others where was there outrage when child rapists and murderers were released into their communities under sanctuary policies?


They are justifiably outraged now with what's happening with ICE, but when their side did something equally as outrageous....what did we hear?

Crickets!

Ugh.

Nowhere near Deep state Texas. No where near Texas, in fact. Live in one of the swingiest counties in one of the swingiest states.

As a recently minted American citizen, I have had the opportunity to vote in only one election - so personally carry no responsibility for any politician in office either past or present.

I am in firm agreement with deportation for heinous crimes. In fact, as I was swearing my green card application in many many years ago I recall bemusement at the activities for which the green card could be revoked as well as having to indicate that I had never been a member of the German National Socialist Party after 1936 (I believe that was the date, I am recalling from memory). Drug Trafficking, Heinous Sex Crimes, and I believe habitual drunkeness were still valid green card revocation reasons.

A vote is a serious thing. In so much as a sanctuary city not releasing career criminals for deportation is not something I would vote for - it is not my primary issue on the current political spectrum. It would be pretty high on the list, if we had an option to vote against it. Trump will never be that option.

I think you're willfully conflating sanctuary city omission with the current ICE activity. They are not the same.

The democrats are not Mother Theresa. They are far from it. Even she had her detractors.

Apologies-I mixed you up with another poster

When I was in Ireland last August my Uncle, who's very well read and informed, was shaking his head

"I just can't understand how 77,000,000 people would vote for Trump....it makes no sense whatsoever". He was truly confounded

I told him that if he had lived through 4 years of Joe and Kamala it would make all the sense in the world.

I think we all agree.....what ICE is doing is disgraceful

But what Democratic cities and states are doing is equally as disgraceful in my opinion and swung swing voters into camp Trump

I wouldn't call that conflating the two.

I'm pointing out that Trumps election and subsequent actions were simply a reaction to 4 years of catastrophic mismanagement of immigration by the Democrats

Did you actually read it?

 "This Obama appointed judge went on to praise him for 'family devotion and willingness to perform work that it claimed Americans find undesirable.'"....LOL....a guy who raped and sodomized a disabled woman getting praised by the judge

You might disagree with the sanctuary policies but you vote for the people who are responsible for them

How's that any different from people who vote for Trump yet disagree with what ICE is doing?

So the issue is NOT the two years for the immigration charge? It's the "praise"?

If so, yeah, that's fucked up on its surface, although it would be interesting to see the actual full quote and context of the statement and case, rather than a short rage-baiting article.

I'm sure there are some swing voters who voted for Trump but dislike what ICE is doing. However, you assured us a few posts back that (according to a poll Smerconish cited) almost all Trump voters DO like what ICE is doing. Which is it?

There are "bad guys" on both sides of the political divide

Most of the posters one here, (especially the ones who live in Ireland) seem to think that the Democrats are the reincarnation of Mother Teresa

Well from my vantage point any Democratic politician who enacts policies that allow an illegal with multiple charges of child rape walk free to spite Trump are just despicable as he is

And the people who vote for them are no better than the people who vote for Trump

Would you f**k up in thinking anyone on here condones rapist murders and so on?

You are mentally deranged

They support and vote for politicians who have declared their cities and states "sanctuaries"

Sanctuary cities and states release child rapists and murderers to the community-FACT-rather than hand them over to ICE for deportation

How would you like this Buck living next door to you?

https://www.wwlp.com/news/crime/undocumented-ecuadoran-charged-with-over-20-child-sex-crimes-in-mass/amp/

" Avila was arraigned in Lawrence District Court on December 18, 2020, for over 20 offenses, including indecent assault and battery on a child under 14, rape of a child with force, and aggravated statutory rape of a child. Later that day, ICE Boston lodged an immigration detainer with the Lawrence Police Department against Avila, but the Lawrence District Court refused to honor the detainer. Avila was released from custody on bail on March 17, 2021"

So was he convicted or not?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/3917059/obama-judge-light-sentence-praise-of-illegal-immigrant-raped-woman-cerebral-palsy/

An Obama-appointed judge in Michigan has come under fire from the Trump administration and conservatives on social media for sparing an illegal immigrant who raped a disabled woman from another two years in prison and openly praising him.

Edys Renan Membreno Diaz, a Honduran national who entered the United States at least seven separate times, was convicted for raping and sodomizing a woman suffering from cerebral palsy and cognitive delays in the laundry room of her apartment building. He was sentenced in 2022.

This is the party you support and vote for

Did you actually read it?

He wasn't spared the two years on the rape. It was on the immigration offense.

You want to start dueling hard cases?

Did you actually read it?

 "This Obama appointed judge went on to praise him for 'family devotion and willingness to perform work that it claimed Americans find undesirable.'"....LOL....a guy who raped and sodomized a disabled woman getting praised by the judge

You might disagree with the sanctuary policies but you vote for the people who are responsible for them

How's that any different from people who vote for Trump yet disagree with what ICE is doing?

Would you f**k up in thinking anyone on here condones rapist murders and so on?

You are mentally deranged

They support and vote for politicians who have declared their cities and states "sanctuaries"

Sanctuary cities and states release child rapists and murderers to the community-FACT-rather than hand them over to ICE for deportation

How would you like this Buck living next door to you?

https://www.wwlp.com/news/crime/undocumented-ecuadoran-charged-with-over-20-child-sex-crimes-in-mass/amp/

" Avila was arraigned in Lawrence District Court on December 18, 2020, for over 20 offenses, including indecent assault and battery on a child under 14, rape of a child with force, and aggravated statutory rape of a child. Later that day, ICE Boston lodged an immigration detainer with the Lawrence Police Department against Avila, but the Lawrence District Court refused to honor the detainer. Avila was released from custody on bail on March 17, 2021"

So was he convicted or not?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/3917059/obama-judge-light-sentence-praise-of-illegal-immigrant-raped-woman-cerebral-palsy/

An Obama-appointed judge in Michigan has come under fire from the Trump administration and conservatives on social media for sparing an illegal immigrant who raped a disabled woman from another two years in prison and openly praising him.

Edys Renan Membreno Diaz, a Honduran national who entered the United States at least seven separate times, was convicted for raping and sodomizing a woman suffering from cerebral palsy and cognitive delays in the laundry room of her apartment building. He was sentenced in 2022.

This is the party you support and vote for

Would you f**k up in thinking anyone on here condones rapist murders and so on?

You are mentally deranged

They support and vote for politicians who have declared their cities and states "sanctuaries"

Sanctuary cities and states release child rapists and murderers to the community-FACT-rather than hand them over to ICE for deportation

How would you like this Buck living next door to you?

https://www.wwlp.com/news/crime/undocumented-ecuadoran-charged-with-over-20-child-sex-crimes-in-mass/amp/

" Avila was arraigned in Lawrence District Court on December 18, 2020, for over 20 offenses, including indecent assault and battery on a child under 14, rape of a child with force, and aggravated statutory rape of a child. Later that day, ICE Boston lodged an immigration detainer with the Lawrence Police Department against Avila, but the Lawrence District Court refused to honor the detainer. Avila was released from custody on bail on March 17, 2021"

So was he convicted or not?

It doesn't say-Seems to me
like he was out on bail the whole time

It was a good post, but obviously he thinks there's bad guys only on one side

I'm sure as a "liberal" living in Deep Red Texas, Puckoon is driven absolutely insane by the flat out fvckery he witnesses on a daily basis

As a "conservative" living in Massachusetts I deal with the other side of the same coin

My question for Puckoon and J70 and others where was there outrage when child rapists and murderers were released into their communities under sanctuary policies?


They are justifiably outraged now with what's happening with ICE, but when their side did something equally as outrageous....what did we hear?

Crickets!

Horseshit.

I've told you multiple times over the years that I think illegal immigrants convicted of serious crimes should be deported immediately after completion of their sentences.

And I've said several times in the past few days that I'm fully in favour of ICE going after those kind of people.

And just so there's zero misunderstanding, at the same time I support so-called sanctuary city policies that encourage engagement with law enforcement and the judicial system by leaving immigration status out of the equation when reporting crimes or serving as a witness or giving a statement.

Fair enough but you still vote for and support the people who let murderers and child rapists back into the community


How is that any different than people disagreeing with what ICE is doing yet would still vote for Trump based on his other policies?

Would you f**k up in thinking anyone on here condones rapist murders and so on?

You are mentally deranged

They support and vote for politicians who have declared their cities and states "sanctuaries"

Sanctuary cities and states release child rapists and murderers to the community-FACT-rather than hand them over to ICE for deportation

How would you like this Buck living next door to you?

https://www.wwlp.com/news/crime/undocumented-ecuadoran-charged-with-over-20-child-sex-crimes-in-mass/amp/

" Avila was arraigned in Lawrence District Court on December 18, 2020, for over 20 offenses, including indecent assault and battery on a child under 14, rape of a child with force, and aggravated statutory rape of a child. Later that day, ICE Boston lodged an immigration detainer with the Lawrence Police Department against Avila, but the Lawrence District Court refused to honor the detainer. Avila was released from custody on bail on March 17, 2021"

I'm sure there are a million stories you could throw up, hell your own president has this!

March 2023 indictment in New York
He faced 34 criminal charges of falsifying business records in the first degree related to payments made to Stormy Daniels before the 2016 presidential election. The trial began on April 15, 2024; Trump was found guilty on all 34 counts on May 30, 2024

But no one is condoning what you have said! Again a twisted mentally deranged individual, get help

As a law abiding taxpaying legal resident of the state of Massachusetts I absolutely have a right to be completely outraged at what's happening in my state

And neither you, nor any other misinformed do gooder from 3000 miles away will silence me

You still didn't answer the question though-would you want this guy living next door to you when he should have been handed over to ICE and DEPORTED

Would you f**k up in thinking anyone on here condones rapist murders and so on?

You are mentally deranged

They support and vote for politicians who have declared their cities and states "sanctuaries"

Sanctuary cities and states release child rapists and murderers to the community-FACT-rather than hand them over to ICE for deportation

How would you like this Buck living next door to you?

https://www.wwlp.com/news/crime/undocumented-ecuadoran-charged-with-over-20-child-sex-crimes-in-mass/amp/

" Avila was arraigned in Lawrence District Court on December 18, 2020, for over 20 offenses, including indecent assault and battery on a child under 14, rape of a child with force, and aggravated statutory rape of a child. Later that day, ICE Boston lodged an immigration detainer with the Lawrence Police Department against Avila, but the Lawrence District Court refused to honor the detainer. Avila was released from custody on bail on March 17, 2021"

It was a good post, but obviously he thinks there's bad guys only on one side

I'm sure as a "liberal" living in Deep Red Texas, Puckoon is driven absolutely insane by the flat out fvckery he witnesses on a daily basis

As a "conservative" living in Massachusetts I deal with the other side of the same coin

My question for Puckoon and J70 and others where was there outrage when child rapists and murderers were released into their communities under sanctuary policies?


They are justifiably outraged now with what's happening with ICE, but when their side did something equally as outrageous....what did we hear?

Crickets!

So anyways

As a law abiding tax paying citizen of the state of Massachusetts I'm furious that a 6 time child rapist was not handed over to ICE for deportation

If the facility he was being held at handed him over to ICE, then they would not need to go out into the community to try and apprehend him.

And now all these other (otherwise law abiding) undocumented persons get caught up in the net

Maybe this was just the excuse Trump
Was looking for to go in and terrorize these Blue cities and paint people like Ptitzker into a corner for 2028, but Trumps 100% correct in wanting to apprehend them and deport them

There's no "And now...".

Nor is Trump looking for an excuse to expand beyond hardened criminals.

Or painting Pritzer into a corner.

He campaigned on massive round ups. Those who voted for him are either bigots who don't like seeing all the brown people around them, or they were uninformed.

They're producing and putting out basic snuff videos showing their masked thugs abducting young mothers and hard working roofers off the street. They're gloating about it. They're lying about the people in question. They're disregarding court orders. No one is forcing them to do any of it, not is there any security or safety issue associated with targeting those poor people.

f**k them, and f**k anyone who tries to offer excuses for what they're doing.

There's no "safety or security issue associated" with a 6 time child rapist being let walk free to re enter his community......seriously, what planet are you on?

I'm sure someone is going to get murdered or raped by one of these thugs between now and the next election. I could almost write the ad for the Republicans


(FWIW-I was listening to Smerconish yesterday and he quoted a poll that said 80-90% of Trump voters supported his immigration enforcement policies)

Come on! You know very well that the hardened criminals (which I referred to in that post) is not what I was referring to. The whole point of my bloody post (and the one I made yesterday on this topic) is that Trump has expanded it way beyond that category of people.

If Trump voters support this, they're racist scum, end of story. They can stick their supposed Christian values and faith up their holes.

And you know very well that I completely disagree with what ICE is doing

What I just can't understand is why Democratic politicians are going to the mat for child rapists and murderers.

What are they hoping to gain?

Did they learn nothing from 4 years of open borders Joe and the "Border Czar"?

So anyways

As a law abiding tax paying citizen of the state of Massachusetts I'm furious that a 6 time child rapist was not handed over to ICE for deportation

If the facility he was being held at handed him over to ICE, then they would not need to go out into the community to try and apprehend him.

And now all these other (otherwise law abiding) undocumented persons get caught up in the net

Maybe this was just the excuse Trump
Was looking for to go in and terrorize these Blue cities and paint people like Ptitzker into a corner for 2028, but Trumps 100% correct in wanting to apprehend them and deport them

There's no "And now...".

Nor is Trump looking for an excuse to expand beyond hardened criminals.

Or painting Pritzer into a corner.

He campaigned on massive round ups. Those who voted for him are either bigots who don't like seeing all the brown people around them, or they were uninformed.

They're producing and putting out basic snuff videos showing their masked thugs abducting young mothers and hard working roofers off the street. They're gloating about it. They're lying about the people in question. They're disregarding court orders. No one is forcing them to do any of it, not is there any security or safety issue associated with targeting those poor people.

f**k them, and f**k anyone who tries to offer excuses for what they're doing.

There's no "safety or security issue associated" with a 6 time child rapist being let walk free to re enter his community......seriously, what planet are you on?

I'm sure someone is going to get murdered or raped by one of these thugs between now and the next election. I could almost write the ad for the Republicans


(FWIW-I was listening to Smerconish yesterday and he quoted a poll that said 80-90% of Trump voters supported his immigration enforcement policies)

So anyways

As a law abiding tax paying citizen of the state of Massachusetts I'm furious that a 6 time child rapist was not handed over to ICE for deportation

If the facility he was being held at handed him over to ICE, then they would not need to go out into the community to try and apprehend him.

And now all these other (otherwise law abiding) undocumented persons get caught up in the net

Maybe this was just the excuse Trump
Was looking for to go in and terrorize these Blue cities and paint people like Ptitzker into a corner for 2028, but Trumps 100% correct in wanting to apprehend them and deport them

See how it works? I claim you say something, you didn't but I'll use your method of thinking and it should work?

Stick to what people say/post don't make stuff up..

If you think ICE is working, good for you

That post makes absolutely no sense

You made a false claim against me

I made a false claim against you

I was able to laugh it off and you got yourself all up in a heap over it and threw your rattle
Out of the pram