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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: Today at 11:57:40 AM »
I see former Senator Sam Marshall has joined the UUP.
Any hope it might be a sign of a more pragmatic approach from the organisation?

Ian

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« on: Today at 11:53:58 AM »
This is daft, any club that's not doing an open draw is not doing in fairly, its very simple, put the names into a hat and if members don't put their names in then they are not involved. Tickets should be allocated fairly, and if not as a member you bring that up at the next agm, there is no reason why the body of the members wouldn't agree with it

There are not to many games that you even need to do that for. Maybe an AIF, maybe. Certainly it would only exist in Dublin. Most other counties would have piles of tickets for games including AIF. I never had a bother getting tickets for the AIF and had spares for those not paid up members.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: Today at 11:50:14 AM »
This is interesting

https://www.ft.com/content/2f343703-90c2-4bbc-bbe2-1199f685b9b4

Britain undermines its own case in Northern Ireland Maximalist demands obscure reasonable options for improving the Brexit deal THE EDITORIAL BOARD Add to myFT Loyalists hold a protest against the Northern Ireland protocol and the so-called Irish Sea border at Belfast Harbour earlier this month © Charles McQuillan/Getty Share on Twitter (opens new window) Share on Facebook (opens new window) Share on LinkedIn (opens new window) Share Save The editorial board JULY 25 2021 404 Print this page One can hardly blame the EU for a sense of irritation at the latest British effort to relitigate the Northern Ireland protocol of its Brexit deal. This is a mess created entirely by the prime minister. He advocated Brexit without any consideration for its consequences in the province, careless of the point that it was the common membership of the EU that made the Good Friday Agreement possible. He then scuppered a Brexit deal that would have maintained the integrity of the UK. As prime minister he betrayed the very Unionists whose cause he had championed and negotiated a deal that left Northern Ireland in the single market for goods ó leaving trade between Britain and the province subject to customs and regulatory checks. Having denied the protocol would lead to a regulatory border between Britain and Northern Ireland, he now proclaims the rules he said did not exist are in fact too onerous to be borne. His latest gambit is to demand substantial renegotiation of the arrangement under the threat of activating a provision allowing the UK unilaterally to abandon certain key provisions of the protocol as they apply to checks on goods moving between Britain and Northern Ireland. Though this threat should be taken seriously, EU officials are understandably unwilling to reward what they see as bad faith by a government trying to relitigate a deal it wishes it had not signed. Brussels has rejected calls for renegotiation of the protocol, though it remains willing to discuss narrow issues to improve the implementation.
 It is understandable if the EU is not feeling terribly charitable towards Boris Johnson or the Democratic Unionist party, which is using the threat of instability to try to recoup lost political ground and unpick a deal they always opposed because its impact (as widely envisaged) will be to pull Northern Irelandís businesses away from the UK and further into the EUís orbit. Opinion: David Allen Green: the Northern Ireland Protocol And yet within the maximalist British demands there are some legitimate points. An overzealous EU interpretation of rules is out of proportion to the threat to the integrity of the single market from British goods arriving in Northern Ireland.

 The risk is theoretical rather than real, not least because there is as yet no significant regulatory divergence. Furthermore there are concerns of a future risk to medicine supplies (Northern Ireland is within the NHS) because of the different approval regimes. Likewise the British request for lighter treatment for goods that are destined to stay in Northern Ireland is worth consideration. There are several other issues that can be eased by a more risk-based approach to the protocol.  Brussels can defensibly argue that the UK can remove many problems by signing up to EU sanitary and phytosanitary rules. This conflicts with the UKís desire for free trade deals, but choosing to prioritise that over a solution is, Brussels might argue, Boris Johnsonís choice.

And yet for all this there is a need to recognise a problem. So while the EU should rightly reject structural changes to its agreement, it does make sense to ask (as it already has in a few areas) whether it cannot be more imaginative in implementing regulations to draw the sting of the most heartfelt and visible grievances. The nation best placed to broker compromise is Ireland, which can only lose from renewed instability in the North. Having fought for the protocol, Dublin is understandably treading a careful line. But if your neighbourís semi-detached house is on fire, at some point it ceases to be relevant whether or not they started the blaze.

But we're not on fire in that sense and it's interesting that the UFU and the fisheries industries are quiet as church mice on the NI protocol. They know it's a good thing for them but won't publically say if for fear of the loyalist backlash.

The perceived issues with the protocol are constitutional for loyalists who once again believe everything the DUP who led them down this path say.

Yeah a lot of the issues are constitutional but some of the paperwork and checks are OTT. I think if Nats recognised that it might help to take the sting out of it a small bit.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: Today at 10:54:48 AM »
Surely that is going to spell the end then for either Baily or Lindelof, unless he is going to change tactics.

Two international defenders hardly going to sit around for league cup games.

Lindelof as cover. Bailey on the 1st boat home. Complete balloon.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« on: Today at 09:51:00 AM »
Tickets out this am. Glad I am a paid up member of my club.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: Today at 09:49:46 AM »
Got my tickets this morning.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« on: Today at 09:48:33 AM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

There's also plenty of balloons running up and down the country 'supporting' their county, who wouldn't lift a finger to help their local club.

You know the type - young fella always has the most up to date strip, been at every McKenna Cup match since the big snow of 47 but the only players he could name on the club team are the 2 boys playing for the county.

I know who I'd rather give a ticket to.

What about the club members who never go to a county game? Have they any more right to a county ticket than a predominantly county supporter?

I know of lots of people who donít really have much association with their local club, for a number of reasons. A lot of clubs are clannish, two or three families running the show, looking after themselves. Itís hard to feel involved if you werenít a top player or donít come from a local footballing dynasty. Or maybe your kids donít play, so youíre less likely to stay involved.

Firstly, I'd always prioritise the members of the association over the non-members.

Lets face it - a county match is a nice day out, but it's not exactly work and it does little to help the association other than the price of the ticket (which in our example is a moot point - as the tickets will be sold anyway).

Someone who coaches the kids teams, washes the jerseys, turns up at club fundraisers, takes a job on the committee etc is IMO far more crucial to the GAA than some Nigel who only follows the county team

And should be treated as such when tickets are being allocated - no matter how many times said Nigel has seen the county team play this year

So there should be a pecking order when it comes to AI tickets?

One club member who helps out with the u-10ís is more entitled to a ticket than one who cuts the grass? Surely contributing to the club via membership or lotto is important too, even if they donít participate in club activities as such. Not everyone has the time, knowledge or experience  to coach or sit as secretary/treasurer etc.

Also, you do have the time.  You have exactly the same amount of time available as everyone else.

You choose not to allot that time to actively participating in the GAA.

So the GAA chooses not to allot you a ticket for big games.

Couldn't be fairer.

How could you make a case for the opposite?

Itís not the GAA who allocates tickets though. Itís through the clubs. And once it goes to clubs, itís anything goes. We all know that. If youíre the secretaryís nephew, treasurerís mistress, youíll get a ticket. You can make an argument that those who coach, wash jerseies etc are more entitled to tickets, but thereís nothing in the GAA constitution/rules stating any of that.

So, you might have a person who is a club member but live in the next town, works abnormal hours or has caring responsibilities etc, and heís no hope of getting a ticket? Well, what is that person going to do in that case? Maybe theyíll take their £25 annual fee and keep it in their pocket. Or when the lads come round asking for lotto or selling tickets for the big club draw/dinner, theyíll be told to get stuffed?

You're that whinging **** that every club has. Points out all the flaws but ask him to brush the changing rooms or volunteer and you'd run a mile. GAA would be far better off without your sorts.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Football Championships 2021
« on: July 26, 2021, 10:45:32 AM »
Time this Championship was cancelled as well as the Leinster one. Was embarrassed for Cork yesterday.

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General discussion / Re: Lions Tour
« on: July 24, 2021, 08:18:30 PM »
Was a good game. Didnít think the lions would do it to be honest.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: July 24, 2021, 08:16:36 PM »
Weíre fighting two pandemics. Coronavirus and Stupidity.

Pharmaceutical companies are actually developing a vaccine at the moment for stupidity, I suggest you take it trailer, the likes of you will create many variants of stupidity.  ;D

Trust me. You need it more than me

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: July 24, 2021, 02:42:08 PM »
Weíre fighting two pandemics. Coronavirus and Stupidity.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: July 23, 2021, 07:33:11 PM »
35 Euro for an Ulster Final ticket.

Bargain.

Tell that to a young family of 5 or 6 plus their day out on top of that!!

Yawn. Some families over 4 think everything should be free because there is more of them.
If you can't afford £30 each a ticket you can't afford the price of the Car it would take to transport them all to Dublin, nor the diesel.

This should go down well.

Ack for fucks sake did you ever hear such whinging.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: July 23, 2021, 01:34:19 PM »
Heard on radio if we can get 47,000 more people vaccinated in NI then hospitals admissions will for Covid will drop by 20%.

If hospital admissions continue to rise the government will take action. And I would fully support those who are unvaccinated to have restrictions put on their everyday life. People need protecting. The vaccination program will not run indefinitely so people need to choose if they are happy with those limitations or not. If they are then that is fine but if they complain they should be shot down immediately.

Would you be happy for the unvaccinated to be thrown into some kind of internment camp for peopleís protection?

No. But we ALL have a responsibility to protect each other. So if people want to smoke they have to do that in a safe environment that protects those who don't wish to smoke. If Motorcyclists want to race their bikes they do that on closed roads. We take precautions everyday for a whole range of things. Covid is no different. We have to wear masks, endure lockdowns etc. This shouldn't be a surprise to the unvaccinated.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2021
« on: July 23, 2021, 01:16:25 PM »
Should tickets not go through the clubs? Club members should get the jump on tickets before the bandwagon support

Many club members don't go near a game all year until there's a final.

There's also plenty of balloons running up and down the country 'supporting' their county, who wouldn't lift a finger to help their local club.

You know the type - young fella always has the most up to date strip, been at every McKenna Cup match since the big snow of 47 but the only players he could name on the club team are the 2 boys playing for the county.

I know who I'd rather give a ticket to.

What about the club members who never go to a county game? Have they any more right to a county ticket than a predominantly county supporter?

I know of lots of people who donít really have much association with their local club, for a number of reasons. A lot of clubs are clannish, two or three families running the show, looking after themselves. Itís hard to feel involved if you werenít a top player or donít come from a local footballing dynasty. Or maybe your kids donít play, so youíre less likely to stay involved.

Firstly, I'd always prioritise the members of the association over the non-members.

Lets face it - a county match is a nice day out, but it's not exactly work and it does little to help the association other than the price of the ticket (which in our example is a moot point - as the tickets will be sold anyway).

Someone who coaches the kids teams, washes the jerseys, turns up at club fundraisers, takes a job on the committee etc is IMO far more crucial to the GAA than some Nigel who only follows the county team

And should be treated as such when tickets are being allocated - no matter how many times said Nigel has seen the county team play this year

So there should be a pecking order when it comes to AI tickets?

One club member who helps out with the u-10ís is more entitled to a ticket than one who cuts the grass? Surely contributing to the club via membership or lotto is important too, even if they donít participate in club activities as such. Not everyone has the time, knowledge or experience  to coach or sit as secretary/treasurer etc.

Yes, there absolutely should.

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Nigels

I can't speak for any other county, but within Derry for example, I don't know of any of these Nigels well definitely not in the last few years. Take the last few years, games away down the country in Div 3 / 4. Derry might have had 20 max supporters. Not a single one of them would be the type of county supporter you seem to be fixated on. Each and everyone would be club men. Having ago at people for supporting their county the length and breadth of the country (especially a county like Derry when so many abandoned the county men in Div 3 and 4) is bizarre

You are making no sense.

You said yourself that none of the supporters who followed Derry are the type I was talking about.

So how am I having a go at them???

Weird.

So Derry wasn't in your thoughts at all then? Gotcha. The other counties clubmen will be glad to have you as a spokesman

Here, just join your local club and ask for tickets through them. It doesn't cost much and sure it's a few pound to the local community. Don't get so worked up about it.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: July 23, 2021, 01:11:51 PM »
35 Euro for an Ulster Final ticket.

Bargain.

Tell that to a young family of 5 or 6 plus their day out on top of that!!

Yawn. Some families over 4 think everything should be free because there is more of them.
If you can't afford £30 each a ticket you can't afford the price of the Car it would take to transport them all to Dublin, nor the diesel.

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