Poll
Question:
Do you agree with the new Summer League for Club teams?
Option 1: Yes, gives the club players plenty of matches
votes: 23
Option 2: No, rather play challenge matches
votes: 4
Option 3: Waste of time, won't be taken seriously
votes: 19
A thread for all you Fermanagh people out there.
Not sure how many Fermanagh folk are on the board. What does everyone think of the performance of all Fermanagh clubs in the Ulster club on sunday?
well from a non Fermanagh person but someone who has alot of time for our close neighbours... i was impressed from watching Enniskillen Gaels yesterday.... Paul Brewster oustanding in the middle of the field..he really did retire too early for Fermanagh...
Neil Cox at full back done well on Eoin Gormley...Thought Ryan McCloskey was also good. Disappointed in Colm Bradley,Cormac McGinley won that particular battle and would have expected more from Ronan McCabe.Michael Lilly had a hard time marking Canavan,But then who wouldnt.
The Big Full Forward Rory Judge is a vgood freetaker,and That point number 17 (also named Judge) scored from nearly the corner flag was as good as score as ive ever seen.
Paul Brewster is still the best midfielder in Fermanagh but due to work commitments he has retired from the intercounty scene. The number 17 was Matthew Keenan. He's a tidy forward who had a great game yesterday. The Gaels will be pretty disappointed as Errigal weren't that impressive. If Canavan wasn't available I'd say the Gaels might have sneaked a victory. Simon Bradley has called time on management so It'll be interesting to see who will take on the reigns in 2007.
I've heard a lot of people calling for Paul Brewster to be given a chance with the county again, is this a serious possibility? was he not struggling to make the Gaels team before the county final? is Stevie Maguire 100% does anybody know, he could be a massive addition again
ps thank god the Rory Gallagher debate for us will be over, he's a total waste of talent but he is a total arrogant arsehole, did anyone see the photo's of him in the local paper - typical him on the field with the water bottle running it through his hair and flicking his neck back, the man's a disaster for morale and spirit on any team, Cavan are welcome to him.
Any ideas on whose going to win the relegation play off this weekend between St Pat's and Tempo ? Don't expect there'll be too much between them at the end of it.
Quick questions for my waterlogged neighbours, where is the Knocks Grattans hurling club based, and also considering that there is two divisions in senior and junior (Erne Cup) football, how is the Division 3 titles in both grades determined?
Knocks Gratton is the Donagh hurling club I believe but I'm not 100 % sure.
For the Division 3 finals the bottom 4 teams in Division 2 play off. The 4th bottom plays the bottom team and the 2nd bottom plays the 3rd bottom team in the semi finals with the winners playing in the final. St Joseph's won the Div 3 Senior League title this year.
Knocks is a townland situated between Donagh and Lisnaskea.
Good men, thanks.
First post on this board in a month boys that's a bad sign. Maybe a good sign that Fermanagh people are too busy working but I doubt it.
A few St Pats boys have told me that Mickey Culbert has agreed to manage them for the next year, bit of a shock that one? Will he make much of a difference?
Does anyone know if he is actually a good manager or what style of manager he is?
Mickey Culbert was a pretty succesful manager with St. Galls especially in the Ulster club where they competed with the top clubs in the province. He had a couple of good years managing Antrim. He didn't really bring them on though but I suppose any man would struggle when you consider the amount of internal politics that takes place within Antrim football. I'd say he'll do a decent job with Donagh but I'm not sure if he'll be able to unearth any unhidden talent. They're a small enough club and they kind of struggle when Shane McDermott, Eamon Maguire and Fergal O'Reilly are with the Fermanagh set up. They just survived in Division one this year by beating Tempo in the relegation play off last week. Fair play to Donagh though. They have ambitious plans and it's good to see a Fermanagh club looking to adopt a professional approach to it's football.
Anyone know what the story is with the rumour that Boho Fabers are to be ressurected?
Is there a split in Derrygonnelly?
hello all. Happy new year.
Still over here in Oz but was wondering why Clucker was not on the McKenna cup panel?? Whats the story??
Looks a good enough panel though i would have gave Aidy Little another chance. Adding Collie Curran as a selector can only be a good thing because the man has a wealth of experience.
Panel as expected. Just hope that we can unearth another forward or two especially a target man for full forward. Sure here's hoping!!!
McCluskey has commitments ith Dungannon Swifts after which he will return to the squad.
c**k and Bull.... Great memories and large black areas of lost time
Quote from: FermGael on January 04, 2007, 03:24:11 AM
Looks a good enough panel though i would have gave Aidy Little another chance.
Think Aidy did the cruciate as far as i know
Any news at all this weather lads??
Any new names appear from the recent Mckenna cup games?
And who is captain this year?
Is there no fermanagh men left on the board??
bump
Charlie Mulgrew has reverted to a near full strength side for the Ernesider's league clash with Limerick in Clones.
Following a mixed McKenna Cup campaign which saw a number of fringe players tried out, Mulgrew has gone for the strongest available selection for the tie with the Shannonsiders.
Back into the team come Barry Owen, Mark Little and Martin McGrath, all of whom started on the bench against St. Mary's in the final McKenna Cup game.
Fermanagh (NFL v Limerick) - Christopher Breen, Niall Bogue, Barry Owens, Shane Goan, Raymond Johnston, Hugh Brady, Peter Sherry, Martin McGrath, James Sherry, Mark Little, Shaun Doherty, Eamon Maguire, Ciaran McElroy, Mark Murphy, Ciaran O'Reilly. Subs - Niall Tinney, Paul Johnston, Damien Kelly, Thomas McElroy, Ryan McCluskey, Shane McCabe, Jonathan McGurn, Colm Bradley, Brian Og Maguire, Shane Lyons, Paul McCusker, Shane O'Brien, Barry Mulrone, Ryan Keenan, Fergal Reilly.
Looks like a good squad. Hopefully a good result on Sunday will set us on the way for at least avoiding a bottom 2 finish
Where'd you get your team news?
Hogan stand
Not a bad line out that, it will be interesting to see how Womble (Murphy) gets on at full forward, he has a great pair of hands.
Does anyone know who this year's captain is? Herad a rumour on another, quite rubbish, GAA site that it was going to be Johnny McGurn, doubt that very much after he upped and left for the US loast summer
Happy enough with the team for Sunday. The defence as always looks pretty strong with Barry Owens leading from full back. I'm glad to see James Sherry back in midfield with Marty McGrath. Although I admit he has struggled with his form over the last year I feel the McGrath and Sherry midfield partnership is the best we have on offer. I hope Mulgrew sticks with the two of them and gives them an opportunity to gel together in the centre of the field.
As always the big problem area for Fermanagh as been the forward line and the inability to turn possession into scores. Tom Brewster will be a big miss for his physical presence. Hopefully guys like Ciaran McElroy and O'Reilly can contribute important scores for the team. With Eamon Maguire in the side we always have a chance. Womble at full forward is an excellent move and hopefully he'll result in being an good target man.
With regards who will be this year's captain, I haven't heard too much although it is very unlikely to be Johnny McGurn. It'll probably be Owens or McGrath owing to the experience they have gained over the last number of years.
This will be a very difficult game for Fermanagh but it is a game they must win. Hopefully if its a dry day and with a vocal 'home crowd' behind them, Fermanagh should win this game!!
Quote from: OdoSkimodo on January 02, 2007, 01:50:14 PM
Anyone know what the story is with the rumour that Boho Fabers are to be ressurected?
Is there a split in Derrygonnelly?
Yes Boho St Fabers are hoping to be resurected this year in the bottom division andare gunning for the Harps
They want to bring the championship back home
2007 Championship Draw
Quinn Direct SFC
Prelim Round to be played June 22/23/24 (Provisional Dates)
(a) Newtownbutler v Belcoo
(b) Teemore v Roslea
(c) Devenish v Lisnaskea
(d) Irvinestown v Enniskillen
Quarter Finals to be played July 26/27/28 (Provisional Dates)
Tempo v Teemore/Roslea
Derrygonnelly v Irvinestown/Enniskillen
Newtownbutler/Belcoo v St Patricks
Brookeboro v Devenish/Lisnaskea
Intermediate Football Champiopnship
Prelim Round to be played June 22/23/24 (Provisional Dates)
Maguiresbridge v Erne Gaels
St Joseph's v Adrumsee
Derrylin v Kinawley
Semi Finals to be played July 26/27/28 (Provisional Dates)
Coa v St Joseph's/Adrumsee
Derrylin/Kinawley v Maguiresbridge/Erne Gaels
Junior Football Championship
Prelim Round to be played July 31st Provisionally
Lisnaskea v Maguiresbridge
Teemore v Irvinestown
Adrumsee v Derrygonnelly
First Round to be played August 7th Provisionally
Lisnaskea/Maguiresbridge v Derrylin
St Josephs v Devenish
Kinawley v Erne Gaels
Belnaleck v St Patricks
Brookeboro v Newtownbutler
Adrumsee/Derrygonnelly v Roslea
Belcoo v Tempo
Teemore/Irvinestown v Enniskillen
Theres not too many Fermanagh folk on the board but heres the weekend results anyway.
B. Mc Caffrey & Sons Erne Cup Div 1
Rnd 1
Roslea 2-9, Coa 1-13;
Derrygonnelly 1-17, Devenish 1-8;
Newtownbutler Lisnaskea
Tempo (off) Teemore
B. Mc Caffrey & Sons Erne Cup Div 2
Rnd 1
Belcoo 1-10, Maguiresbridge 1-7;
Belnaleck 2-7, Kinawley 1-10;
Brookeboro (off) Erne Gaels
Derrylin (off) Tempo
Irvinestown 0-7, Enniskillen 3-6;
St Josephs 2-9, Aughadrumsee 1-8;
St. Patricks 1-17, Derrygonnelly 0-5
Manor House Hotel SFL Div 1
Rnd 1
Derrygonnelly 2-10, Belcoo 2-10;
St. Patricks 2-13, Irvinestown 0-8;
Devenish 1-10, Lisnaskea 1-9;
Enniskillen 0-9, Roslea 0-11;
Newtownbutler 0-15, Teemore 2-5
Fermanagh Herald SFL Div 2
Rnd 1
St. Josephs 0-8, Brookeboro 0-4;
Derrylin 2-10, Erne Gaels 2-9;
Aughadrumasee 0-4, Kinawley 0-11;
Maguiresbridge 0-4, Tempo 0-17;
Were Boho St fabers not playin at the wekend?
Well dudes, any idea of how we'll get on in the Championship. I predict a 5/6 point defeat at the hands of Tyrone followed by a morale boosting win over London and finishing with a comprehensive defeat by someone like Wicklow!!!
Any word on how the challenge match with Galway went at the weekend?
From Hoganstand
O'Connor offers advice to Fermanagh
Struggling Fermanagh hope to benefit from a talk given to them over the weekend by Kerry's double All-Ireland winning manager Jack O'Connor.
O'Connor, who stepped down as Kingdom boss after leading them to a second All-Ireland title in three years last autumn, met up with the Fermanagh squad at a team bonding session in Mayo last weekend.
O'Connor took in a training session and a challenge match against Galway before giving the Fermanagh players advice on how to achieve a winning mentality. The players were said to be delighted with his input and are hopeful that it will help to turn their fortunes around ahead of the Ulster SFC opener against Tyrone on May 20.
It's only three years ago since the Erne County reached the All-Ireland semi-final, but they have slipped considerably since then and a terrible run of seven consecutive defeats in Division 1A of the NFL this spring saw them relegated to Division 3 for next year.
No mention of the result, though I'd say we were beat!
Anyone know who is this year's captain?
Fermanagh were beaten by a point by Galway at the weekend. Good enough performance I believe with some of the regular starters not on. Theres hope for the summer yet lads, just keep the faith!!
I thought this years captain was Tom Brewster although I'm not sure where I heard this so I'm probably wrong!
That's an encouraging enough result against Galway even though twas only a challenge. Tom Brew was captain for the league games I believe, but again not 100%
Here what's this about Fermanagh getting Jack O'Connor to take your training sessions? Sure that man could never handle Tyrone in the championship. You'd be better getting Micko, or taking them yerselves.
Lads, that challenge down in Galway was a good boost for morale. Hopefully we can put in a good performance against Tyrone and see what happens....Tyrone are defo there for the taking. We're defo not as bad as our Division 1 and McKenna cup campaign suggested. We're defo not great either but we have good, honest footballers who with the right attitude can go places.
Quote from: terrierblue on April 26, 2007, 01:33:30 PM
Lads, that challenge down in Galway was a good boost for morale. Hopefully we can put in a good performance against Tyrone and see what happens....Tyrone are defo there for the taking. We're defo not as bad as our Division 1 and McKenna cup campaign suggested. We're defo not great either but we have good, honest footballers who with the right attitude can go places.
Big speak.................one swallow does not a summer make. Whats the mood this week, is everyone loving charlie or is he public enemy no.1 again??
I wouldnt say tyrone are there for the taking. Its a while to the championship and tyrone have had a few weeks of hard training and have another few weeks yet. They will be missing McGuigan and Mulligan, but should cope handy enough and hopefully when they get these 2 back then a 'Sam' challenge will really begin. I wouldnt read too much into Tyrones supposed downfall, it wasnt too long ago that in the mckenna cup they were tanking teams all about the place, and although they didnt shine in the league they still drew with kerry down there and beat the dubs in croker. People fail to realise that tyrone were chopping and changing 5/6 players for every game, trying out new players etc. Ive a sneaky feeling it'll be another long summer for the red hands!
Quote from: Bensars on April 26, 2007, 01:44:28 PM
Quote from: terrierblue on April 26, 2007, 01:33:30 PM
Lads, that challenge down in Galway was a good boost for morale. Hopefully we can put in a good performance against Tyrone and see what happens....Tyrone are defo there for the taking. We're defo not as bad as our Division 1 and McKenna cup campaign suggested. We're defo not great either but we have good, honest footballers who with the right attitude can go places.
Big speak.................one swallow does not a summer make. Whats the mood this week, is everyone loving charlie or is he public enemy no.1 again??
I'd be very surprised if Charlie is still at the helm after the summer although if we repeat the run of 2004 he might be around for another while yet
Manor House Hotel SFL Div 1
Rnd 4
St. Patricks 1-10, Derrygonnelly 2-08;
Teemore 3-09, Devenish 0-13;
Newtownbutler 1-19, Enniskillen 4-03;
Irvinestown 1-11, Lisnaskea 2-10;
Belcoo 3-08, Roslea 0-5
Fermanagh Herald SFL Div 2
Rnd 4
Maguiresbridge 0-09, Brookeboro 1-11;
Erne Gaels 1-08, Kinawley 2-08;
Aughadrumasee 0-07, St. Josephs 2-07;
Derrylin 0-6, Tempo 0-09;
Another terrible result for Enniskillen Gaels, is that now four defeats from four?
Belcoo look to be going well, is Steven Maguire playing?
Nobody seems to know his situation exactly
Any results from the weekend?
Division 1
Enniskillen 3-13 Irvinestown 2-07
Teemore 1-07 Roslea 0-07
Lisnaskea 1-07 St Patricks 0-13
Devenish 1-04 Derrygonnelly 0-05 (I think)
Division 2
Brookeborough 1-06 Tempo 0-09
St Josephs 1-06 Kinawley 2-07
Aughadrumsee 1-06 Derrylin 0-12
Maguirebridge 1-08 Erne Gaels 1-10
Bump!
Any news from our few fermanagh posters, seen a few posts on hoganstand regarding players leaving the panel to go to the US but it's news to me.
Senior League's shaping up well, still nearly anyone could win, Enniskillen look in big trouble though. Shams definitely gone
A few boys have headed off to the states but no-one on the county panel I don't think. Just a few club players from the likes of Kinawley, Derrylin and Skea. Mark Little was meant to go apparently but according to sources he isn't. Leagues shaping up well with the top of Div 1 extremley tight and the Gales stuck near the bottom but you would expect them to get out of it. Tempo are nearly certain to win Div 2 outright with Ederney/Brookborugh battling it out for the 2nd remaining spot!
I heard Mark Little and Cecil were due to go to the states but have now postponed the trip until the championship is over. This could be this weekend when Skea play an in form Devenish side. I'm surprised to see them doing so well this year as they have been fighting relegation over the last few seasons. Division one is tight this year. You'd expect Irvinestown to go down but who will join them is not so easy to say. Enniskillen, although in a relegation position have two games in hand and should pull themselves to safety. Tempo are guaranteed to get promoted and I reckon Brookeboro will join them. Ederney are going well this year but I don't think they're good enough to go up.
Championship time this weekend and some interesting ties lie ahead. Here are my predicitions.
Friday 22nd June 2007
Intermediate & Senior Football Championships
@ Lisnaskea
Kevin Courtney (Garage/Mace) IFC @ 6.45pm
Derrylin v Kinawley - Kinawley
Quinn Direct SFC @ 8.15pm
Teemore v Roslea - Teemore
Saturday 23rd June 2007
Intermediate & Senior Football Championships
@ Irvinestown
Kevin Courtney (Garage/Mace) IFC @ 6.45pm
Maguiresbridge v Erne Gaels - The Bridge
Quinn Direct SFC @ 8.15pm
Devenish v Lisnaskea - Devenish
Sunday 24th June 2007
Intermediate & Senior Football Championships
@ Teemore
Kevin Courtney (Garage/Mace) IFC @ 2.30pm
St. Josephs v Aghadrumsee - St. Josephs
Quinn Direct SFC @ 4pm
Newtownbutler v Belcoo - Newtown
@ Tempo
Quinn Direct SFC @ 7pm
Irvinestown v Enniskillen Gaels - Enniskillen
That will do Skea some harm in the league, any word on the Fermanagh training lately?
Are they keeping it together or having a good break?
Things have gone a bit quiet with regards the Fermanagh squad. I haven't heard a whole pile although they're still training away up in Lissan. Marty McGrath will be a big loss for the rest of the season. I suspect McBarron and James Sherry will form the midfield partnership in our qualifier game with Womble sitting on the edge of the square. I wonder who we'll get in the draw this weekend? Knowing our luck it'll be one of the big guns although with the new rules with regards the tommy murphy cup there are no easy teams in the draw this year!!
No them days are gone, thought he might try Owens out there you'd never know, though I'd be happy with two of Womble, McBarron and Sherry. Probably the first two with Sherry at chf
Aye, I'd defo have Sherry/McBarron in Midfield and Murphy in at FF. Gonna be tough whoever we get. We just don't have any scoring forwards and don't seem to have unearthed any either. Bradley shouldn't start, he was poor the last day out and doesn't appear to be anywhere fit for Inter-County. Expected so much more outta him having seen him play in Macrory and in Ulster Club campaigns with the Gaels but he's gone downhill.
Yeah Bradley's form has dipped over the last few seasons. Although he isn't old he has played constant football for the last 10-15 years and I reckon he's burnt out. He has lost a yard of pace which was his main weapon. On his day he was one of the best forwards in Ulster. We are really struggling for forwards. Is there anyone in the county who could do a job for Fermanagh but haven't been given a go at senior level? John Carrigan has been performing well for Belcoo this year. Seamus Quigley is a seriously good footballer but I'm not sure if the motivation is there to play for the county. James Connolly and Brendy McBrien are the main forward men for Newtown but both are lacking in height.
Quigley is an outstanding talent but I'm afraid will never be a county player, absolutely no dedication and no respect... for anything!
McBrien is quick alright but had a chance a few years back and seemed to hide in games, or couldn't get into them, either way he missed that boat.
Is Stevie Maguire finished for good or what?
Can't see Maguire togging out again for County. He pulled out over a year ago as he was planning for his wedding etc. Think he's concentrating on club football now plus he isn't getting any younger. Always heard talk of that Quigley lad but never seen him play....was/is he as good as people were saying? If so, then I guess we could have done with him but if boys don't wanna play then what can ya do. Hard to see where we're going as a County...nice team but just not good enough to push for provincial honours. Defo need to unearth a few scoring forwards. Very impressed with our defense the last day against Tyrone, especially Lyons from Belleek. Good old championship starts tonight with the 'self appointed' Best derby game in Fermanagh between Kinawley and Derrylin! ;D
Quigley is one of those types of forwards, any time I seen him he was getting 7/8 points a game, big enough lad too.
But he never quite had the dedication, walked out on minors last year, then turned up on the day, and came on and scored three points.
No chance he will be a county player, unless the years settle him down
Lisnaskea defeated Devenish 2.6. to 1.7 tonight in Irvinestown, in the first round of the Fermanagh senior championship , with Mark Little notching 1.1 in the second half for the winners , who scored their match winning goal in the 5th minute of injury time , in a tie which saw Devenish lead 4 to 3 at half time.
poor game of football tonight in Irvinestown tonight. It wasn't helped by the weather though. Devenish will feel sick to be beaten by such a late goal and they at least deserved a draw. Lisnaskea were extremely poor. I can't see them making any impression in the championship this year.
Enniskillen Gaels defeated Irvinestown in Tempo tonight in the Fermanagh senior championship. Final score 0-11 to 0-6. The sides were level on 5 points a piece at half time however the introduction of Ryan McCluskey and the greater experience of the Enniskillen side saw them safely through to the last 8 of the competition. Man of the match was Enniskillen's Ronan McCabe.
In the earlier tie played at Teemore Newtownbutler defeated Division one high flyers Belcoo on a final scoreline of 3-11 to 1-07.
I heard Barry Owens had to be taken off early for Teemore with an ankle injury, any word on his condition??
Huge blow with likely game against Wexford to come if it's bad, him and Mattie Forde could have quite a battle
I'm not too sure about the exent of Barry Owens' injury but hopefully it isn't too bad. I'm happy enough with the qualifier draw. We could have got harder games than Laois/Wexford. I think everyone is expecting Laois to beat Wexford. I wouldn't just rule out a Wexford victory. They're a decent good enough when they get going. I read in the Irish News today that Fermanagh are exploring the possibility of hosting the qualifier game at a venue within the county. I can't see this happening as I don't think any of our grounds meet health and safety regulations.
Apparently the county board want the game in Lisnaskea, can't see it happening though. They must be pissed off with Clones.
Not the worst draw, especially as the loser will only have 6/7 days recovery before facing us
The match couldn't be in skea as there's no toilets and no parking. Two pretty big requirements for an intercounty game. I'd be happy enough if the venue was Clones. We didn't play well there in the league but this is the championship and we've had some decent victories there over the years. It is an advantage that Wexford/Laois only have one week to prepare. I just hope the boys can make the most of it and put in a decent performance next weekend.
Can't see it alright, there are toilets but literally about four!
Boys name a Fermanagh XV who are not on the panel this yr, a B if u like.
This boy quigley sounds good, what bout them wards from Derrygonelly or that cub Spoon, kevy Gallagher or O Flanagan from devenish just to see the real depth yur county has(plus give u posters some activity on this page)
Haven't been home to see many club games this year but going by what I've seen over the years these boys should be pushing strongly for county places, most haven't committed to county, or even club, some have just been overlooked
Shane Wilson (NTB)
Paul Johnston (NTB gone to US)
Mark McKenna (Skea)
Michael Lily (Gaels)
Ryan McCluskey (Gaels)
Niall Keenan (Gaels)
Colm Monaghan (NTB)
Ryan Carson (NTB)
Paul Brewster (Gaels)
Seamus Quigley (Roslea)
Shane McCabe (Belcoo)
Ronan McCabe (Gaels)
Kille (Skea US bound)
Stephen Maguire (Belcoo)
Brendan McBrien (NTB)
Who are Knocks Grattons and where are they from?
Knock Grattans is an underage hurling club which was formed a few years ago. The Knocks is a townland situated between Lisnaskea and Donagh.
Lads, after our spirited victory over wexford what do you think our chances our against meath. although people have criticised charlie mulgrew in the past, you must hand it to him, as he always seem to get the past of the boys in the qualifiers. As for saturdays game, I was chattin a few Down friends and they reckon meath are very beatable. We have beaten them twice in the past so we should go into the game confidently. Do you think we'll bring many supporters to navan? Not a bad turnout for the wexford game but where are the bandwagon supporters of 2004 now? i know some of those fans aren't big GAA people but we should try and get them out now all the same.
Tough one against Meath. Good to get the win against Wexford but we'll have to play a hell of alot better. Glad to see Keenan finally starting...Bradley shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 15 imo. Murphy is starting to establish himself in the middle of the park too. I think a nice wee crowd will travel down to Navan with any bandwagors jumping aboard if we get through to the next round (Including meself! lol). Nah, saturday will be spent relaxing, watching the games and hitting the town! Senior/Inter champ's set for end of July. I reckon the Senior champ is wide open with St.Joe's and Kinawley contesting the Inter final. Interesting to see how Coa fair in Inter champ.
Have to agree with you about keenan, he is a very good player and hopefully with a good run in the team he'll start to produce the form he had when he was winning Macrory cups with St. Michael's. Coa have a decent chance this year. They really should be in Div 2 of the senior league. They are as good if not better than the Bridge and playing at a higher standard will help them.
As a Down man I wish Fermanagh all the best against Meath. As another poster has pointed out, the perception in Down is that Meath are very beatable. They only beat Down by 5 points, after Downs worst display in a decade. The main danger man against Down was Peadar Barry, the number 12, pure pace. The 2 midfielders were huge but not overly mobile, and there build up play was generally slow. Hope you can do the 6 counties proud!
Thanks for the support southdown. Why did Down struggle so badly against meath? They seem to be way behind the likes of armagh, tyrone and derry despite the countys great pedigree. Surely a county of Down's size should be producing better results than that witnessed last saturday.
Quote from: inisceithleann on July 11, 2007, 03:08:53 PM
Have to agree with you about keenan, he is a very good player and hopefully with a good run in the team he'll start to produce the form he had when he was winning Macrory cups with St. Michael's. Coa have a decent chance this year. They really should be in Div 2 of the senior league. ??? ??? They are as good if not better than the Bridge and playing at a higher standard will help them. ???
Have to disagree on a few points regarding Coa. I think it'll be another 3/4 years before they can even consider senior football. They hardly have set Erne Cup 1 on alight albeit they have not been playing full strength sides (So I'm led to believe). They are no-where near MGB at the moment. Whilst they are languishing near the bottom of Div 2, MGB aren't a bad side and have ran some of the top Div 2 teams close this year. I think Ederney will beat Coa very convincingly but hopefully in a few years themselves and Bellanaleck can make a push for senior status.
I take your point regards coa, and it probably will take a few years before they're senior standard. However fermanagh is unique when you consider junior football. Because we only have the two junior clubs, I don't think it makes sense to have them playing in a league made up of senior club's reserve teams. They would be as well playin in SFL Div 2. It's not as if they would suffer big defeats or anything and it would without doubt help their development. Sure the Bridge themselves were playing junior up until a few years ago.
Quote from: inisceithleann on July 11, 2007, 04:30:11 PM
Thanks for the support southdown. Why did Down struggle so badly against meath? They seem to be way behind the likes of armagh, tyrone and derry despite the countys great pedigree. Surely a county of Down's size should be producing better results than that witnessed last saturday.
Down lost because they had no real game plan. Meath play a direct game with a straight forward long ball into the full forward line, while Down messed about with the ball. That was the striking difference between the 2 sides.
Charlie Mulgrew during his final match in charge of Fermanagh
Fermanagh football boss Charlie Mulgrew stepped down from the position after the county's 0-11 to 0-9 All-Ireland qualifier defeat by Meath on Saturday.
Mulgrew, who led the team to the 2004 All-Ireland semi-finals, said that he had always intended this season to be his final year in the post.
Meath led 0-6 to 0-4 at half-time at Navan and extended that lead to 0-10 to 0-5 early in the second half.
Fermanagh's produced a late rally but were unable to get on terms.
The Erne County's line-up had a late change from the side announced on Thursday with James Sherry starting instead of Tom Brewster.
However, Brewster was introduced for Ciaran McElroy midway through the first half when Meath were leading by 0-4 to 0-2.
Ciaran O'Reilly's second free of the first half reduced Meath's lead to the minimum but the Royals fought back to lead 0-6 to 0-4 at the interval.
The crucial period of the match came after half-time as Meath outscored Fermanagh by four points to one to take a 0-10 to 0-5 lead.
By that stage, the excellent Brian Farrell had notched four of Meath's points while Peadar Byrne had hit two scores.
Ciaran O'Reilly's fourth point of the match cut Meath's cut to four points and there then followed a crucial moment as Mark Little's goalbounded effort came back off the Royals woodwork.
A Tom Brewster free and a Shane McDermott point reduced Meath's lead to two but Farrell responded with a steadying score for Meath.
Brewster pointed again for Fermanagh but Meath were not put under serious pressure in the closing minutes as they held on for a deserved win.
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So folks? who we reckon to be the next manager? Someone from inside/outside the County? Culbert perhaps!!! I see league games fixed for Fri/Sun and the Minor Champ SF's for this Wed. I predict a Tempo v Kinawey Minor Final!
I suspect that the new manager will come from within the county. I'd put my money on Malachy O'Rourke although I'm not sure if he'd want the job. I read in the Irish News that the county board hope to appoint someone in the new couple of months. I think it was the right time for Charlie to leave. I believe he has brought us as far as he could although in fairness to him he has help put Fermanagh football on the map and you can only praise him for that.
Double round of fixtures this week which I'm sure most club footballers will be glad to see.
Interesting ties in the minor championship this week. I'll go for an Enniskilen v Tempo final.
I think the manager has to come from outside the county. I think it helps to bring someone in who doesn't know a lot of the players personally and can bring fresh ideas. Furthermore it should remove the possibility of the manager not picking people from certain clubs etc, which there is always the possibility of. How big a manager would be willing to take Fermanagh on? If Joe Kernan leaves Armagh any chance he'd take it? Mickey Moran and John Morrison as co-managers?? As for Charlie Mulgrew, no doubt he has brought Fermanagh forward but he still made to many errors as manager. I know it's a matter of opinion but I never felt he picked his best 15 on match days. Shaun Doc should have started a lot more and McBarron was never fit enough for championship football this year. James Sherry should have started with Murphy in midfield as he always ended up there anyway. I hope the new manager brings a few new faces into the panel. There's a lot of good talent out there, Shane McAloon, Mattie Keenan for example.
I cant think of anybody within the county who id give the job to. John O'neil has been in the backroom for a while but hasnt done anything on his own, from what i hear sean maguire didnt have control over the minors.
I'd like to see malachy o'rouke given a go at it. He done some great work with st joe's, and had a good spell in tyrone club football.
Lets hope they have someone on board by Novemeber
Quote from: Tempoman on July 17, 2007, 03:13:20 PM
I'd like to see malachy o'rouke given a go at it. He done some great work with st joe's, and had a good spell in tyrone club football.
If there's anyone within the county i'd give it to it'd be malachy o'rourke. A real nice fella by all accounts and I think he'd have the full support of all the players and clubs. Whoever takes it, things have to improve. One win in 53 weeks of football is a disgrace. I think we should give the McKenna cup a real rattle next year. We need experience winning again on a frequent basis. At least we're playing in an appropriate level in the NFL. No point losing every week in Div 1.
I think O'Rourke would be a good choice. He's a Fermanagh man and has experience with Loup and Errigal Ciarran. We'll just have to wait and c however. Big shock in the Minor Champ last night, with Kinawley beating Enniskillen. Heard they deserved to win though and only for some terrible refereeing decisions that they would have won by more.
Quote from: tintin25 on July 19, 2007, 11:40:00 AM
I think O'Rourke would be a good choice. He's a Fermanagh man and has experience with Loup and Errigal Ciarran. We'll just have to wait and c however. Big shock in the Minor Champ last night, with Kinawley beating Enniskillen. Heard they deserved to win though and only for some terrible refereeing decisions that they would have won by more.
Took a spin out to Derrylin last night to watch kinawley v gaels match. I don't know who gave you a breakdown of the game but there wasn't a lot between the teams. Kinawley's best player was Tomás Corrigan and himself and Conal Smyth had a right battle the whole game. Who won the other semi? I'd expect Belcoo or Tempo to beat Kinawley, they're far too reliant on Corrigan. The ref by the way did pretty well i thought. He was Martin McBrien's young son and did very well. Of course he made a few errors but this wasn't helped by at least 3 Kinawley mentors charging on to the pitch and roaring the head of him when he gave a decision against them. They were well out of order, even if he had got the decision wrong.
Tempo won the other semi-final I think. They look strong this year. Yeah, Corrigan is the main man but sure regardless of what team he played for they would prob be a little over reliant on him. I just heard from sources that the ref was poor (Although, they did come from Kinawley folk so they prob slightly biased). Apparently there was one incident were Corrigan was blatantly fouled, it should have been a pen/free and the ref gave a free out?? Neways, hopefully they can give Tempo a run for their money as they seem to have a stranglehold on the underage scene in Fermanagh at the mo!
I know the incident you are talking about and yeah Corrigan was fouled but sure the ref is only finding his feet and is only a young fella, he's going make mistakes. Yeah Tempo are the driving force in underage football but they don't seem to make any real head way at senior level despite this success. Kinawley will give them a game alright but they'll probably double up on Corrigan and I didn't see any other scoring threat from the other forwards. Disappointing loss for the gaels, they were 2 up with 7 mins to go. We haven't won a minor championship I think since McCluskey, Bradley and McCabe were that age, and that's 9 years ago as far as I remember.
Aye, I'd say that was a game the Gaels expected to win. Never easy for the townies to accept defeat to the 'munchies'. Lol. Yeah, Tempo defo have some good players esp in the backline. To be honest, the reason why Kinawley were prob more upset at the referee was that he was from neighbouring Derrylin too. Alwasy gonna get conspiracing theories thrown into the mix!! As for mentors etc running onto the pitch...this is Kinawley we're talking about!! It's a common occurence with them!! Lol. Very passionate about their club! Senior Champ should be competitve this year. I'd always fancy the Gaels but think it's wide open this year to be honest!
The Gaels have the strongest team in the county on paper. Don't read much into league form, the Gaels haven't fielded a full team in the league all year. With fermanagh team out early this year it should make the county championship even more appealing. The Gaels V Derrygonnelly match will be a cracking contest. No love lost between those two :)
St. Pat's V Newtown another interesting tie, a real derby tussle. Potential to turn into a kicking match though. I hope not. Two good sides. Newtown could be the biggest threat to the Gaels this year.
Well, got 2 rounds of League action over the wkend with some interesting results! The Gaels whipped by NTB but they got a precious away win against Teemore on Sunday. I hear they had the 2 Keenans sent off? Can you confirm this Enniskillen lad? How long they get? Big loss for the championship. Alot of sides in Div 1 were winning a game and then losing a game. Belcoo still in the hunt for league honours and it looks to be between Enniskillen, St.Pats, Roslea and Teemore to join the Shams in Div 2. Brookboro shocked Tempo and that has thrown Div wide open but you would expect Tempo to win their games in hand and take top spot.
Quote from: tintin25 on July 23, 2007, 11:59:08 AM
Well, got 2 rounds of League action over the wkend with some interesting results! The Gaels whipped by NTB but they got a precious away win against Teemore on Sunday. I hear they had the 2 Keenans sent off? Can you confirm this Enniskillen lad? How long they get? Big loss for the championship. Alot of sides in Div 1 were winning a game and then losing a game. Belcoo still in the hunt for league honours and it looks to be between Enniskillen, St.Pats, Roslea and Teemore to join the Shams in Div 2. Brookboro shocked Tempo and that has thrown Div wide open but you would expect Tempo to win their games in hand and take top spot.
yeah the two keenans were sent off against Newtown, but i think niall got 2 yellows so will be available against derrygonnelly this weekend. great win against teemore, another couple of wins and i think the gaels will be safe.
Looks like Malachy O'Rourke is the front-runner for the big job? anyone heard any real alternatives.
Culbert's being mentioned a lot, but I don't think there's any truth in it, think he came to the county for a fixture of cash and a club friend.
Mickey Moran mentioned also on Hoganstand etc but can't see it.
Hope it's not John O'Neill or anyone who has done the job before or been in the background
Its interesting the Culberts name is being mentioned. Maybe he went to donagh with the view of taking the fermanagh job. I must admit i was very surprised when i heard he had taken the job with st pats.
Big weekend for the championship.
I would fancy tempo against teemore, might lose the physical battle, but theres plenty of nippy players in there.
The gaels will lift it for the championship, and especially against old rivals the harps
I think the tie of the round is st pat v newtown, local pride at stake. I think newtown will take it.
Skea v b'boro - although b'boro beat tempo last week i think skea will have too much for them.
Having said that my predictions arent usually worth a sh*te, and all the teams i have tipped will probably lose!!!
I can't see culbert being in the running. he did nothing with antrim, and he's probably only in donagh for the money or doing a favour to someone.
Tempoman, I'd say you're not far wrong with your predictions. Tempo have a good chance against Teemore, who have really struggled this year. O'Reilly and Owens only played 10 mins against the Gaels. I'd say they were just rested, and if both are fit you'd have to fancy Teemore, but i'd be great to see another club like Tempo making a break through. I really thought i'd be Belcoo this this year.
anyone at the donagh v newtown match tonight in skea. heard on the radio that it was 2 points each just before half time. seemed to be very low scoring. by the way fermanagh must be worst represented county on this board, there only seems to be about 5 or 6 of us that actually post anything.
getting ready to head out to kinawley here for this afternoons double header. kinawley has a great pitch but there is no parking facilities worth talking about. the decision to play both games there seems a little strange. also tempo playing teemore in brookeboro doesn't really seem fair to teemore. i know enniskillen is the ideal half way between the two and that's not available but surely letting tempo playing so close to their own village doesn't seem right either.
Get the Championship results up as soon as you can, ay very small representation on here.
Donagh Newtown was a very poor game, Newtown lucky to survive as Donagh were truly awful in the second half, managing just one point from a free.
They'll not get a better chance to beat Newtown, especially as Ryan Carson (Blobby) went off injured early with a suspected broken collarbone (huge blow to their title hopes if confirmed).
No stand out performers but James Connolly probably man of the match.
On the plus side for Newtown they scraped through playing poor and know they can only get better, Blobby's a huge loss though, easily their best player all year, possibly the best in the league hera at the minute
fermanagh friends what is the craic with Brewster Pk ? is it still under development? was a great pitch when i played on it many years ago and i have seen some pics on the gaels website it is looking good.
is brendan dooris still playing, that man must be 108 by now.
Quote from: boscomo on July 29, 2007, 07:18:30 PM
fermanagh friends what is the craic with Brewster Pk ? is it still under development? was a great pitch when i played on it many years ago and i have seen some pics on the gaels website it is looking good.
is brendan dooris still playing, that man must be 108 by now.
Not a clue who Brendan Dooris is but Brewster Park is still under development, bit of a joke really there have been 60,000 seater stadiums built quicker, and it's not as if the new ground is radically different!
Serious disadvantage to the county team all year
Quote from: boscomo on July 29, 2007, 07:18:30 PM
fermanagh friends what is the craic with Brewster Pk ? is it still under development? was a great pitch when i played on it many years ago and i have seen some pics on the gaels website it is looking good.
is brendan dooris still playing, that man must be 108 by now.
The floodlights have been installed for months, but they have only sown the pitch in the last few weeks, there was some problem with it, not really sure what is was. We expect for the stadium to be up in running at the start of the NFL, so looks like Skea will get the county final. As for Brendy Dooris he hasn't played for a right few years, sure Chrissy Breen is in goals these days, but he's involved with the underage teams.
I was at all the quarter finals today. The Gaels were very very lucky to avoid defeat and derrygonnelly probably deserved it. A poor match with the harps using the wind well in the first half, but only scored 1 point in the second, and thus let the door open for ronan mccabe to get the goal and secure the draw. Replay in kinawley on friday night with a 7.30 throw in time.
The Skea V Brookeboro game was a another poor game of football with brookeboro by far the better team. They looked the more hungry of the two and played the better football. Their main player was Kieran Donnelly who got through a mountain of work and Niall Rooney took his scores well.
Tempo were outclassed by Teemore tonight, and the two goals meant Tempo were never in the contest but battled away bravely with their best players being the Keenan brothers. Teemore weren't pushed but Owens and the O'Reillys were very good throughout, so it's hard to tell how good they actually are. They play Brookeboro in the semi final so it'll be an intersting tie with Teemore being strong favourites.
i know dooris hasnt played for years but was a great servent for the gaels for many a year, is it true that ollie mcshea is the new manager???? was a great player when i played up there and along with paul brewster, brendy dooris and raymie curran really helped me improove my game, but so did john murphy who was a great manager, alwys have a very soft spot for the boys up in enniskillen. indeed had my stag weekend up in the island town.
Quote from: inisceithleann on July 29, 2007, 09:03:34 PM
Quote from: boscomo on July 29, 2007, 07:18:30 PM
fermanagh friends what is the craic with Brewster Pk ? is it still under development? was a great pitch when i played on it many years ago and i have seen some pics on the gaels website it is looking good.
is brendan dooris still playing, that man must be 108 by now.
The floodlights have been installed for months, but they have only sown the pitch in the last few weeks, there was some problem with it, not really sure what is was. We expect for the stadium to be up in running at the start of the NFL, so looks like Skea will get the county final. As for Brendy Dooris he hasn't played for a right few years, sure Chrissy Breen is in goals these days, but he's involved with the underage teams.
I was at all the quarter finals today. The Gaels were very very lucky to avoid defeat and derrygonnelly probably deserved it. A poor match with the harps using the wind well in the first half, but only scored 1 point in the second, and thus let the door open for ronan mccabe to get the goal and secure the draw. Replay in kinawley on friday night with a 7.30 throw in time.
The Skea V Brookeboro game was a another poor game of football with brookeboro by far the better team. They looked the more hungry of the two and played the better football. Their main player was Kieran Donnelly who got through a mountain of work and Niall Rooney took his scores well.
Tempo were outclassed by Teemore tonight, and the two goals meant Tempo were never in the contest but battled away bravely with their best players being the Keenan brothers. Teemore weren't pushed but Owens and the O'Reillys were very good throughout, so it's hard to tell how good they actually are. They play Brookeboro in the semi final so it'll be an intersting tie with Teemore being strong favourites.
I'm guessing by what you said Skea were beat???
Two defeats in two years to division two teams in the Championship, not good
Quote from: ExiledGael on July 29, 2007, 09:58:20 PM
Quote from: inisceithleann on July 29, 2007, 09:03:34 PM
Quote from: boscomo on July 29, 2007, 07:18:30 PM
fermanagh friends what is the craic with Brewster Pk ? is it still under development? was a great pitch when i played on it many years ago and i have seen some pics on the gaels website it is looking good.
is brendan dooris still playing, that man must be 108 by now.
The floodlights have been installed for months, but they have only sown the pitch in the last few weeks, there was some problem with it, not really sure what is was. We expect for the stadium to be up in running at the start of the NFL, so looks like Skea will get the county final. As for Brendy Dooris he hasn't played for a right few years, sure Chrissy Breen is in goals these days, but he's involved with the underage teams.
I was at all the quarter finals today. The Gaels were very very lucky to avoid defeat and derrygonnelly probably deserved it. A poor match with the harps using the wind well in the first half, but only scored 1 point in the second, and thus let the door open for ronan mccabe to get the goal and secure the draw. Replay in kinawley on friday night with a 7.30 throw in time.
The Skea V Brookeboro game was a another poor game of football with brookeboro by far the better team. They looked the more hungry of the two and played the better football. Their main player was Kieran Donnelly who got through a mountain of work and Niall Rooney took his scores well.
Tempo were outclassed by Teemore tonight, and the two goals meant Tempo were never in the contest but battled away bravely with their best players being the Keenan brothers. Teemore weren't pushed but Owens and the O'Reillys were very good throughout, so it's hard to tell how good they actually are. They play Brookeboro in the semi final so it'll be an intersting tie with Teemore being strong favourites.
I'm guessing by what you said Skea were beat???
Two defeats in two years to division two teams in the Championship, not good
Yeah skea were beaten, 1-9 to 1-4 i think was the final score. defeated by a div 2 team for the second year in a row isn't good and they only scrapped past devenish in the first round. long time since they last lifted the new york gold cup in 1994.
Quote from: boscomo on July 29, 2007, 09:31:49 PM
i know dooris hasnt played for years but was a great servent for the gaels for many a year, is it true that ollie mcshea is the new manager???? was a great player when i played up there and along with paul brewster, brendy dooris and raymie curran really helped me improove my game, but so did john murphy who was a great manager, alwys have a very soft spot for the boys up in enniskillen. indeed had my stag weekend up in the island town.
yeah ollie mcshea is the manager this year with the brother donal assisting him. the three players you referred to have been great servants to the club alright. raymie retired last season but big brew is still going. john murphy doesn't manage these days but is on the club executive. he was managing the juniors a few years back though, you couldn't meet a nicer fella than john.
As usual my predictions didnt come to the fore!!!! I'm goin to have to precict that the gaels win the championship this year!!!!!
Its a pity that brewster park is so far behind, but with all the rain this year its understanable. I was talking to someone last year who reckoned that the pitch needed at least 2 years rest due to over use. Skea's pitch is a disgrace, i couldnt believe at the start of the year when they were talking about using it for the national league. It needs some serious work to bring it up to the standard of the rest of the pitches in the county.
Didnt know that shrek (aka donal mcshea) was assisting ollie this year, he was a great servant to tempo down the years. Ollie must be one of the most decorated players in ireland, god knows how many hurling and football medals he has won down through the years, and a true gent also.
Its a pity there arent more contibuters on this board from fermanagh. Im actually living in leeds at the minute, but always check the board for gaa news.
On another note well done to Young Irelands in leeds yesterday, we won the yorkshire senior league title!!!
Quote from: Tempoman on July 30, 2007, 10:33:30 AM
As usual my predictions didnt come to the fore!!!! I'm goin to have to precict that the gaels win the championship this year!!!!!
Its a pity that brewster park is so far behind, but with all the rain this year its understanable. I was talking to someone last year who reckoned that the pitch needed at least 2 years rest due to over use. Skea's pitch is a disgrace, i couldnt believe at the start of the year when they were talking about using it for the national league. It needs some serious work to bring it up to the standard of the rest of the pitches in the county.
Didnt know that shrek (aka donal mcshea) was assisting ollie this year, he was a great servant to tempo down the years. Ollie must be one of the most decorated players in ireland, god knows how many hurling and football medals he has won down through the years, and a true gent also.
Its a pity there arent more contibuters on this board from fermanagh. Im actually living in leeds at the minute, but always check the board for gaa news.
On another note well done to Young Irelands in leeds yesterday, we won the yorkshire senior league title!!!
Yeah Oliie is a brillant athlete, he came on himself yesterday as well at the grand aul age of 39. He's played hurling for Ulster as well, not too many fermanagh men have done that.
Agree with you about skea, poor pitch and no parking, but sure there's no alternative until brewsters up. the pitch looks to be miles away from being finished.
Need more contributors to this board. I'm only home for a few weeks and then back to work in England, most of the posters are exiled as well which is a bit strange. We'll have to get a few more local based fellas to keep the news coming.
Well done on winning the Yorkshire title. I was chatting one of your committee members a few months ago in England. He was telling me about the Fermanagh men playing with Young Irelands. Jimmy i think his name was? I didn't know that Shane Lyons was playing for them for a right few years. He's been a great find for Fermanagh this year.
Jimmy is a legend, everyone know him in leeds, only for him there would be no young irelands.
What part of the UK are you in Innis ceithlean???
Lyons was a great player for us last year. We probably could have won the all britain county title last year if he was playing, he had got suspended about 3 weeks before the game. He was a great trainer, always had something different. We've a good number of fermanagh men on the team, from kinawly, derrylin, roslea, and tempo.
Working just outside manchester, so i'll be living there. I only got the chance to train once with st.peter's before i came home so i might throw my lot in with them as i know a few of the fellas playing with them. jimmy is a nice fella alright. it turned out he refereed a gaelic game i was playing in with enniskillen town colts against yorkshire when i was 15. it's a small world.
Intermediate Championship Results; Kinawley 1-13 Erne Gaels 0-07, St.Josephs 1-13 Coa 3-02. Senior Championship Results; Brookboro 1-09 Lisnaskea 1-04, Derrygonnelly 0-07 Enniskillen 1-04 (I think) and Teemore 2-07 Tempo 0-08 (I think). Was at a couple of the games yday in Kinawley. Brookboro fully deserved to beat Skea. To be honest there isn't much difference between the top teams in Div 2 and teams in the middle reaches of Div 1. This result didn't surprise me that much. Only stayed for abit in the 2nd game. Seemed a poor enough match from what I saw. Gaels don't look strong this year. I know everyone says this every year and they usually win the championship but I fancy Derrygonnelly for the replay. Think it could finally be NTB's year. Coa didn't disgrace themselves in the Intermediate Championship either. Kinawley accounted for Erne Gaels handy enough but will need to improve greatly against St.Joe's. Big day for the club on saturday when the minors take on the mighty Tempo!!! Hopefully a shock is on the cards!
I attended all the quarter finals yesterday. I wasn't that surprised that Brookeboro beat Skea. Skea have been really poor in the league recently whereas Brookeboro altough playing in div 2 have been winning games and have built up a good bit of confidence. They'll go into the NTB game as underdogs. They are a phsycially strong side and some really good footballers including Gerard Woods, Paddy Mohan, Tommy McElroy and Niall Rooney.
The Gaels were shocking poor yesterday. 2 points after 50 mins of football is terrible and it wasn't like they were creating many scoring opportunties. Derrygonnelly kicked the game away and I'm sure the were feeling sick last night. I fancy the Gaels the win the replay on friday though. They couldn't play as badly again and I reckon the Harps have missed the boat.
Teemore won well last night without being overly impressive. The two early goals they got set them up for a comfortable victory. Tempo are a good footballing side but they lack physcial presence in many areas of the field. Although they lost I don't think they would have been too disappointed. They are a good young side and they'll be a force in Fermanagh football in a couple of years time.
I'd have to fancy Tempo in the minor final. From what I heard Kinawley were't great against Enniskillen although you never know in a final. Regardless if they win or lose it's a great achievement for a small club like Kinawley to get to a minor A final.
Quote from: FermPundit on July 30, 2007, 05:56:19 PM
I attended all the quarter finals yesterday. I wasn't that surprised that Brookeboro beat Skea. Skea have been really poor in the league recently whereas Brookeboro altough playing in div 2 have been winning games and have built up a good bit of confidence. They'll go into the NTB game as underdogs. They are a phsycially strong side and some really good footballers including Gerard Woods, Paddy Mohan, Tommy McElroy and Niall Rooney.
The Gaels were shocking poor yesterday. 2 points after 50 mins of football is terrible and it wasn't like they were creating many scoring opportunties. Derrygonnelly kicked the game away and I'm sure the were feeling sick last night. I fancy the Gaels the win the replay on friday though. They couldn't play as badly again and I reckon the Harps have missed the boat.
Teemore won well last night without being overly impressive. The two early goals they got set them up for a comfortable victory. Tempo are a good footballing side but they lack physcial presence in many areas of the field. Although they lost I don't think they would have been too disappointed. They are a good young side and they'll be a force in Fermanagh football in a couple of years time.
I'd have to fancy Tempo in the minor final. From what I heard Kinawley were't great against Enniskillen although you never know in a final. Regardless if they win or lose it's a great achievement for a small club like Kinawley to get to a minor A final.
This has got to be the most open senior championship in years, any of the teams left have a realistic chance of winning, and i wouldn't neccessaily say that derrygonnelly have missed the boat but you would expect the Gaels to up their game in the replay.
It'd be great to see Kinawley win the minor championship, and i must congratulate the Brian Boru's on hosting the games yesterday. The pitch was in great condition and the club should get more games in my opinion.
Lads your defence seemed to play fairly well throughout the year.Would you not throw Clucker into the forward line? Does he not play there for the Gaels the odd time?
Quote from: SuperHans on August 01, 2007, 04:49:53 PM
Lads your defence seemed to play fairly well throughout the year.Would you not throw Clucker into the forward line? Does he not play there for the Gaels the odd time?
Clucker lined out at corner forward in last years championship. He's currently injured, but when he comes back, and if we beat derrygonnelly he could play there again but may play at midfield.
Anyone know waht the problem is with Lisnaskea seniors?? I always keep an eye on the Fermanagh club football and Skea seem to win a lot at underage level but they badly under-perform at senior level. As the second biggest town in th county you would figure they would give the championship a better run. Knocked out in two successive years by division 2 teams is not acceptable for a high profile division 1 team you would imagine.
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on August 02, 2007, 05:57:45 PM
Anyone know waht the problem is with Lisnaskea seniors?? I always keep an eye on the Fermanagh club football and Skea seem to win a lot at underage level but they badly under-perform at senior level. As the second biggest town in th county you would figure they would give the championship a better run. Knocked out in two successive years by division 2 teams is not acceptable for a high profile division 1 team you would imagine.
Skea have a seriously young side so would expect them to re-emerge in a few years, especially when Daniel Kille gets to a decent age, he scored ten points v Down in Ulster u-21 Championship.
Don't know where they've went wrong, but they haven't been a force almost since Collie Curran hung up the boots
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on August 02, 2007, 05:57:45 PM
Anyone know waht the problem is with Lisnaskea seniors?? I always keep an eye on the Fermanagh club football and Skea seem to win a lot at underage level but they badly under-perform at senior level. As the second biggest town in th county you would figure they would give the championship a better run. Knocked out in two successive years by division 2 teams is not acceptable for a high profile division 1 team you would imagine.
I stood watching the Skea match with a fella from Skea and the two of us were discussing the demise of the club at senior level. They haven't been that prolific at underage level, with Derrygonnelly, Tempo and Belcoo being more dominant than the Emmetts in the last few years. I suppose the team is quite young but on sunday the team seemed to lack any real motivation.
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 02, 2007, 07:29:30 PM
I stood watching the Skea match with a fella from Skea and the two of us were discussing the demise of the club at senior level. They haven't been that prolific at underage level, with Derrygonnelly, Tempo and Belcoo being more dominant than the Emmetts in the last few years. I suppose the team is quite young but on sunday the team seemed to lack any real motivation.
They had a very good minor team about 2 years ago I think, they won the Fermanagh championship and done well in Ulster beating the likes of Carrickmore. i have seen kille in action and he is a very good player. What where Mark and Aidan Little like in the championship against Brookeborugh? Does Mark perform as well for Skea as he does for Fermanagh?
Quote from: SuperHans on August 01, 2007, 04:49:53 PM
Lads your defence seemed to play fairly well throughout the year.Would you not throw Clucker into the forward line? Does he not play there for the Gaels the odd time?
Fully agree with this, Fermanagh can never be accused of conceding much, i believe they have onof the best defences in the country, honestly. Their real probelm is in the forward line, they need a player like Paddy Bradley who is good for about 3-4 points a game. In championship matches over this past 4-5 years, bar Tyrone AI quarter final, Fermanagh have never been beaten by more than 4 or 5 points.
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on August 03, 2007, 01:50:17 PM
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 02, 2007, 07:29:30 PM
I stood watching the Skea match with a fella from Skea and the two of us were discussing the demise of the club at senior level. They haven't been that prolific at underage level, with Derrygonnelly, Tempo and Belcoo being more dominant than the Emmetts in the last few years. I suppose the team is quite young but on sunday the team seemed to lack any real motivation.
They had a very good minor team about 2 years ago I think, they won the Fermanagh championship and done well in Ulster beating the likes of Carrickmore. i have seen kille in action and he is a very good player. What where Mark and Aidan Little like in the championship against Brookeborugh? Does Mark perform as well for Skea as he does for Fermanagh?
I've only seen Mark Little twice this year playing for Skea and he didn't play up to his inter county potential in either game. In fairness to him I think ke knows that the team is poor at the minute and he almost was going through the motions. If anyone watched the 4 quarter finals last weekend you'd find it very difficult to pick out the county men, the standard was that poor. I'd say at club level, Fermanagh is probably the poorest standard in Ulster at the minute.
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 03, 2007, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on August 03, 2007, 01:50:17 PM
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 02, 2007, 07:29:30 PM
I stood watching the Skea match with a fella from Skea and the two of us were discussing the demise of the club at senior level. They haven't been that prolific at underage level, with Derrygonnelly, Tempo and Belcoo being more dominant than the Emmetts in the last few years. I suppose the team is quite young but on sunday the team seemed to lack any real motivation.
They had a very good minor team about 2 years ago I think, they won the Fermanagh championship and done well in Ulster beating the likes of Carrickmore. i have seen kille in action and he is a very good player. What where Mark and Aidan Little like in the championship against Brookeborugh? Does Mark perform as well for Skea as he does for Fermanagh?
I've only seen Mark Little twice this year playing for Skea and he didn't play up to his inter county potential in either game. In fairness to him I think ke knows that the team is poor at the minute and he almost was going through the motions. If anyone watched the 4 quarter finals last weekend you'd find it very difficult to pick out the county men, the standard was that poor. I'd say at club level, Fermanagh is probably the poorest standard in Ulster at the minute.
Think your right about that, Gaels are in transition, and will be for a while in my opinion, with the rest unable to step up to the mark.
Thought Newtown or Teemore would fill the hole left by the Gaels but looks like they are incapable.
Derrygonnelly though seem to have done well at underage level in recent years
mark never plays for Skea like he does for Fermanagh, God knows the Skea boys shout that often enough, but it's not his style to be an on'field leader or grab a game by the scruff of the neck
Quinn Direct SFC Quarter Final Replay Result
Derrygonelly 2-08 Enniskillen 0-10
Enniskillen were dumped out of the senior championship tonight by derrygonnelly. Derrygonnelly took an early lead through a johnny mcgurn penalty, with the gaels responding with points from colm bradley, christy murphy and ronan mccabe. The harps were reduced to 14 men after 15 mins with former county man paul greene getting the line for flooring paul brewster. The sides went in at half time level at 1-03 to 0-6. The gaels never got going in the second half and a harshly awarded penalty was duly dispatched again by johnny mcgurn. McGurn and kevin mcgrath tagged on further points that set the side up for the victory. Derrygonnelly's paul ward was the torment in chief for the harps and thoroughly deserved the man of the match award. His pace and accuracy was something the gaels failed to cope with. Tom Brewster's frees and a point from Paul Gunn kept the Gaels in touch but they could never close the 0-4 gap and the harps fully deserved their victory.
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 03, 2007, 09:33:41 PM
Quinn Direct SFC Quarter Final Replay Result
Derrygonelly 2-08 Enniskillen 0-10
Would this be considered a shock result in Fermanagh? Have the semi-final games been decided?if so who plays who?
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on August 03, 2007, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 03, 2007, 09:33:41 PM
Quinn Direct SFC Quarter Final Replay Result
Derrygonelly 2-08 Enniskillen 0-10
Would this be considered a shock result in Fermanagh? Have the semi-final games been decided?if so who plays who?
To be honest this would have been a shock 5 years ago, but the Gaels have been poor the last few years and it could be the end of the road for the team that dominated Fermanagh for the last decade, but heres hoping not. :D
Semi final draw was made last sunday:
Teemore Shamrocks V Derrygonnelly Harps
Brookeboro Heber MacMahons V Newtownbutler First Fermanaghs
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 03, 2007, 10:01:01 PM
Semi final draw was made last sunday:
Teemore Shamrocks V Derrygonnelly Harps
Brookeboro Heber MacMahons V Newtownbutler First Fermanaghs
Who do you fancy for the title?? You would think that NTB are already in the final?? :P
Don't rule out Brookeboro they have some good players, with tommy mcelroy and kieran donnelly being their man players. But you'd expect Newtown even without ryan carson (out injured) to come through.
Teemore will be pushed by derrygonnelly, but the harps are over reliant on paul ward and he'll be well shackled by hughie brady. Teemore have real quality and with barry owens and ciaran o'reilly on the team you'd expect them to make the final.
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 03, 2007, 10:31:43 PM
Teemore will be pushed by derrygonnelly, but the harps are over reliant on paul ward and he'll be well shackled by hughie brady. Teemore have real quality and with barry owens and ciaran o'reilly on the team you'd expect them to make the final.
Owens-quailty player as well known. Not 100 % convinced by O'Reilly, very good free-taker but in the games ive seen him for Fermanagh,it is questionable at times what he contirbutes from play. Where does he play for Teemore and how good is he at club level?
Also, are Gerald and Paddy Woods playing for Brookebourgh?
Gerald plays at midfield and won man of the match last weekend i think? A very good footballer. Not too sure about Paddy? But he could be on the first 15.
O'Reilly is very good at club level as you'd expect, but doesn't stand out as a county player at times. Very accurate from placed balls but as you say never contributes enough from open play. In fact most of Teemore's frees are taken by Sean Curry. O'Reilly plays at centre half forward and drops deep and acts as play maker.
Was present at this match , and did the winners not get the first score from an early penalty award.
Quote from: KIDDO on August 03, 2007, 11:25:38 PM
Was present at this match , and did the winners not get the first score from an early penalty award.
Yeah you're right, wrote the report quickly when i got in the door. Didn't realise I'd written that. I'll edit my previous post :)
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 03, 2007, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on August 03, 2007, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 03, 2007, 09:33:41 PM
Quinn Direct SFC Quarter Final Replay Result
Derrygonelly 2-08 Enniskillen 0-10
Would this be considered a shock result in Fermanagh? Have the semi-final games been decided?if so who plays who?
To be honest this would have been a shock 5 years ago, but the Gaels have been poor the last few years and it could be the end of the road for the team that dominated Fermanagh for the last decade, but heres hoping not. :D
Semi final draw was made last sunday:
Teemore Shamrocks V Derrygonnelly Harps
Brookeboro Heber MacMahons V Newtownbutler First Fermanaghs
I fancied Derrygonnelly to take the replay. Thanks for the report Enniskillen lad. I personally think that Gaels will have to start rebuilding. Great servants like Paul Brew and Ollie McShea, to name a but a few, have been around a long time now. I think Enniskillen need to start building their team around guys like Bradley, McCabe, Gunn, Millar etc...as once Brewster and these guys retire then the former will be seen upon as the experienced members and the 'older brigade' so to speak. Apart from Matthew Keenan and maybe Ledwith I would struggle to name young players from the Gaels coming through the ranks who fall into the 20-24 age bracket. Perhaps I am wrong, but when you look at NTB, Derrygonnelly, Brookboro and Teemore they have numerous players who fit into this category who have come through the respective underage setups. Players like Connolly, Ward, McCaffery, Woods, A.Boyle etc. I wouldn't predict a demise in the Gaels however, and I'm quite confident they will be challenging for honours once again next season but I would expect them to be doing with without the guys mentioned previousley albeit maybe in a minimul role. I agree what you say about club football being quite weak too. I wouldn't have alot of confidence in any of the remaining teams in the Champ making any sort of impression in Ulster.
Its probably the end of the road for this Enniskillen side. Although many of the players aren't that old there is a lot of mileage on the clock. The likes of Colm Bradley and Ronan McCabe are only around 27 yrs of age but they have been playing constant football for the last 10 years. I think there has been a lack of hunger in the squad for the last few years and another Fermanagh championship wouldn't mean that much to them. The success that Enniskillen have achieved over the last decade has been very impressive but it'll hurt them that they never won a ulster club title. They def had the team to do it.
With regards the championship this year I believe that any of the 4 teams left have a realistic chance of going all the way. You would have to fancy NTB owing to their league form but Ryan Carson is a huge loss to them. The Harps are dangerous but they seem to be too reliant on Paul Ward. Teemore are a big physical side and with Barry Owens and Ciaran O'Reilly playing they'll be hard to stop. Brookeboro have no pressure on them and they'll probably relish the underdog tag. I wouldn't be surprised if they caused a shock against NTB.
Shocking defeat for the Gaels at the weekend, 13 points or something to Belcoo. They're in serious danger of going down at this rate, bad sign of the attitude especially after getting knocked out of the SFC to just fold in the league then as well
We still have a game in hand I think but agreed things are looking rather bleak for the seniors this year and need a few points to survive. Still think we can stay up though. Juniors are flying the flag for the club at the minute. Sitting at the top of Erne Cup Div 2 and in with a great shout for the junior championship. Hopefully still something to celebrate at the end of the season.
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 06, 2007, 10:32:21 PM
We still have a game in hand I think but agreed things are looking rather bleak for the seniors this year and need a few points to survive. Still think we can stay up though. Juniors are flying the flag for the club at the minute. Sitting at the top of Erne Cup Div 2 and in with a great shout for the junior championship. Hopefully still something to celebrate at the end of the season.
Yeah, whilst the senior scene isn't looking too great for ya's I fancy your Juniors to pick up some silverware this season...hopefully in the Championship mind cause we are gunning for the Erne Cup 2 title ourselves! ;)
Gaels should get a good run in the Championship, plenty of strength in depth and don't think ya's would have used many players in the Senior Championship.
Swift Supervalue JFC Result:
Teemore 3-09 Enniskillen 3-06
To compound what has been a poor season for the Gaels, the juniors were knocked out by Teemore tonight at Tempo.
Anybody know any other results from the Junior Championship? Kinawley 5-18 Erne Gaels 0-04. St Pats and Belanaleck drew also.
Lisnaskea 6-17, Derrylin 1-5
St. Josephs 0-6, Devenish 1-13
Kinawley 5-19, Erne Gaels 0-4
Belnaleck 1-6, St. Patricks 1-6
Brookeboro 0-5, Newtownbutler 2-7
Derrygonnelly 0-8, Roslea 0-8
Belcoo 3-6, Tempo 4-12
Teemore 3-9, Enniskillen 3-6
Not that many suprises in last nights game but I thought donagh would have beaten belnaleck and st. joseph's would have troubled devenish a bit more. Did ederney lose a lot of players to the intermediate championship?
Yeah, results went pretty much how I would have thought too. Not really surprised to see Belanaleck draw with Donagh. Donagh haven't been strong in Erne Cup 2 this year and would have been missing players due to Senior involvement. Belanaleck are capable of winning that replay. I think Ederney probably would have lost 4/5 players also for the same reason given already. Take them lads out and they too are quite ordinary. Whatsort of team did the Gaels line out with last night? How would you rate Teemore? I suppose you'd have to fancy Teemore and the winners of DerryG/Roslea at this stage though it depends on the draw. I always thought they the Junior draw was pre-determined? A v B...C v D etc...maybe I'm wrong.
Quote from: tintin25 on August 08, 2007, 11:14:52 AM
Yeah, results went pretty much how I would have thought too. Not really surprised to see Belanaleck draw with Donagh. Donagh haven't been strong in Erne Cup 2 this year and would have been missing players due to Senior involvement. Belanaleck are capable of winning that replay. I think Ederney probably would have lost 4/5 players also for the same reason given already. Take them lads out and they too are quite ordinary. Whatsort of team did the Gaels line out with last night? How would you rate Teemore? I suppose you'd have to fancy Teemore and the winners of DerryG/Roslea at this stage though it depends on the draw. I always thought they the Junior draw was pre-determined? A v B...C v D etc...maybe I'm wrong.
We were missing a right few players, we lost a number of players because of senior involvement in the championship, probably the most in years. Only had a squad of 18 because we had a few injuries as well. Teemore were pretty good, they ran up a lead of 8/9 points in the first 15 mins, the goals destroyed us. But they died in the second half, but the Gaels did play a lot better in fairness. Teemore's full back line is very solid and they've a a very good forward line. Ciaran Fitz, Wynne and Robbie did extremely well and will cause any team a bit of trouble. If the Gaels had another 10 mins they would have won the game, but Teemore probably did take the foot of the gas.
Inisceithleann, I see you's were beaten in the Championship, was that a suprise or was that expected? Who will win it now then?
Quote from: southdown on August 08, 2007, 02:09:29 PM
Inisceithleann, I see you's were beaten in the Championship, was that a suprise or was that expected? Who will win it now then?
Newtownbutler to win the senior and Derrygonnelly to win the junior championships.
Folks whats the craic with the Junior championships and Erne cups? is this for reserve or 3rds teams. can the weaker teams like Coa and all enter them aswell
Quote from: SuperHans on August 08, 2007, 04:04:51 PM
Folks whats the craic with the Junior championships and Erne cups? is this for reserve or 3rds teams. can the weaker teams like Coa and all enter them aswell
The Junior Championship and Erne Cup are essentially for the reserve teams. At the start of each season teams participating in Senior league 1 and 2 must provide a first 13 list which prevents those named from participating in the Junior grade. Junior league has then 2 divisons. Junior Champ is slightly different in that your prevented from playing in it if you have already participated in the Senior champ. There are 2 junior clubs in fermanagh, Coa and Belanaleck. Coa won the junior champ last year so were enterd in the intermediate champ this year. I assume they will compete in this for the next few years. They also are involved in the Junior league division 1. They are making strides to become a senior club but I think it'll be a nother few years before this happens. Belanaleck play in Erne cup div 2.
Quote from: tintin25 on August 08, 2007, 04:26:42 PM
Quote from: SuperHans on August 08, 2007, 04:04:51 PM
Folks whats the craic with the Junior championships and Erne cups? is this for reserve or 3rds teams. can the weaker teams like Coa and all enter them aswell
The Junior Championship and Erne Cup are essentially for the reserve teams. At the start of each season teams participating in Senior league 1 and 2 must provide a first 13 list which prevents those named from participating in the Junior grade. Junior league has then 2 divisons. Junior Champ is slightly different in that your prevented from playing in it if you have already participated in the Senior champ. There are 2 junior clubs in fermanagh, Coa and Belanaleck. Coa won the junior champ last year so were enterd in the intermediate champ this year. I assume they will compete in this for the next few years. They also are involved in the Junior league division 1. They are making strides to become a senior club but I think it'll be a nother few years before this happens. Belanaleck play in Erne cup div 2.
Calling it a junior championship is a complete misnomer as it's effectively a reserve championship with only belnaleck playing solely at junior level. I've always advocated that we should change the name of the competition as it causes confusion as evidented by SuperHans' post. Tintin25, I take it Belnaleck will represent Fermanagh in the Ulster junior club championship this year considering Coa played at intermediate level?
Yeah, that's right. Belanaleck will represent Fermanagh in the provincial series. Good to see them getting some exposure but you'd think the winners of the Junior champ could play in it even though that would more than likely be a senior reserve team. Agree with you about renaming it the reserve champ as that's what it is.
Quote from: tintin25 on August 08, 2007, 05:29:12 PM
Yeah, that's right. Belanaleck will represent Fermanagh in the provincial series. Good to see them getting some exposure but you'd think the winners of the Junior champ could play in it even though that would more than likely be a senior reserve team. Agree with you about renaming it the reserve champ as that's what it is.
Is letting Belanaleck or Coa represent Fermanagh only been happening for the last few years? In the past if a senior club's junior team won did Fermanagh not have a representative in Ulster?
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 08, 2007, 05:33:41 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on August 08, 2007, 05:29:12 PM
Yeah, that's right. Belanaleck will represent Fermanagh in the provincial series. Good to see them getting some exposure but you'd think the winners of the Junior champ could play in it even though that would more than likely be a senior reserve team. Agree with you about renaming it the reserve champ as that's what it is.
Is letting Belanaleck or Coa represent Fermanagh only been happening for the last few years? In the past if a senior club's junior team won did Fermanagh not have a representative in Ulster?
As far as I know it is quite a recent thing. I think the last non junior club to represent the county in the ulster junior championship was Derrygonnelly but I'm not a 100% sure on this.
Anyone know of the JFC QF Draw? Also, with regards the Fermanagh representatives in the Junior provincial series, I think this practice of only allowing junior clubs represent Fermanagh only started about 2/3 years ago. The Junior/Intermediate provincial series wasn't recognised by the Ulster Council a few years back. I think it was Clontibret or Scotstown maybe who organised a provincial series for these grades before it was officially recognised by the Ulster council or maybe Croke park as an all-ireland series similiar to the senior club.
Tuesday 14th August 2007
Philip Swift (Super Valu) JFC Qtr-finals @ 7.30 pm
Teemore v Belnaleck/St.Patricks @Derrylin
Tempo v Newtownbutler @Brookeborough
Devenish v Lisnaskea @Irvinestown
Kinawley v Derrygonnelly/Roslea if D'gonnelly @Belcoo if Roslea @Maguiresbridge
Lads, any reports on the Senior SF's at the wkend??
Quote from: tintin25 on August 14, 2007, 02:45:21 PM
Lads, any reports on the Senior SF's at the wkend??
didn't get to either game tintin but just heard reports from friends. brookeboro very lucky against newtown. apparently kieran donnelly was flying for them again. fermanagh have really missed his ball carrying skills. the derrygonnelly and teemore game was destroyed by the weather i hear. teemore apparently dropped an extra man back all the time and ward and others were deprieved of any space to run at teemore's defence. you'd have to fancy newtown for their replay. ederney being beaten by kinawley. no real suprise there i don't think. what about the brian boru's chances in ulster? surely they'll have to improve. intermediate level in every other county is probably the equivalent to senior level in fermanagh in a lot of clubs cases.
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 14, 2007, 02:52:12 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on August 14, 2007, 02:45:21 PM
Lads, any reports on the Senior SF's at the wkend??
didn't get to either game tintin but just heard reports from friends. brookeboro very lucky against newtown. apparently kieran donnelly was flying for them again. fermanagh have really missed his ball carrying skills. the derrygonnelly and teemore game was destroyed by the weather i hear. teemore apparently dropped an extra man back all the time and ward and others were deprieved of any space to run at teemore's defence. you'd have to fancy newtown for their replay. ederney being beaten by kinawley. no real suprise there i don't think. what about the brian boru's chances in ulster? surely they'll have to improve. intermediate level in every other county is probably the equivalent to senior level in fermanagh in a lot of clubs cases.
Yeah, would probably have to fancy NTB for the replay but it'd be great to see Brookboro win. I heard Donnelly is playing some stuff alright. Teemore are a very solid side and they don't give much away. Good win for Kinawley in the Intermediate Champ....been nearly 20 years since their last title at senior grade!! Hopefully they can give Ulster a good lash but they would seriousley have to improve. To be honest, this title win disguises what has been a poor couple of years for the club at senior grade. The priority was promotion and this hasn't been acheived after 2 campaigns. An Intermediate Championship medal is nothing to be sniffed at however and we defo have players capable of mounting an assault on Ulster. I agree the standard of Intermediate in some other counties would be greater to our own, specifically Tyrone, Derry and possibly Monaghan. Although, Belcoo were only beat by 3 pts by the eventual Ulster winners last year so who knows.
well hello everyone. Howse it going??
I see that the clubs have to put in there nonimations this weekend. Any one heard anything??
Was not be the least bit surprised to hear Sean Maguire's name been linked with the job. I hope that someone in the
county board remembers what he did to one of our best minor teams of the last 20 years.
Anyone know if Sean Donnelly is interested?? Seems to have done a good job with Teemore.
Would not be surprised to see Brookeborough beat NTB this weekend.
Quote from: FermGael on August 16, 2007, 08:34:34 AM
well hello everyone. Howse it going??
I see that the clubs have to put in there nonimations this weekend. Any one heard anything??
Was not be the least bit surprised to hear Sean Maguire's name been linked with the job. I hope that someone in the
county board remembers what he did to one of our best minor teams of the last 20 years.
Anyone know if Sean Donnelly is interested?? Seems to have done a good job with Teemore.
Would not be surprised to see Brookeborough beat NTB this weekend.
I haven't heard Sean Maguire linked with the job and I doubt he'd get it even if Donagh nominated him. The people choice seems to be Malachy O'Rourke but he may be happy in club football so I dunno what it would take to get him to take the job. I heard a rumour that Liam Donnelly from Trillick was in for the job. Dunno how true it i though.
Question: How many clubs are there in Fermanagh? It woud appear the club scene in the county is at a pretty low ebb at the minute. Considering the size of Skea, Derrylin, Irvinstown, Newtown and Roslea they should have a better club structure. Comparing it to Derry football all theses towns are as big if not bigger than any of the top teams in Derry. The main football catchment area in Derry is focussed within 15 miles from the Castledawson Round about . Am I being overly harsh or what is the underlying problem?
Considering the greatest GAA strategist in our lifetime is without doubt Peter Quinn - what is the County doing to raise the standard of club football?
Should they consider merging with Leitrim to develop a decent league structure to try & raise the overall standard of both counties?
Should Intermediate clubs be allowed to merge to play in the Senior Championship (ala Kerry) again to bring players on to perform at a more consistent higher standard?
Should the first round of the championship be in a league system to get more than one match, again to develop players?
The status quo should not be allowed to remain!!
There are 20 football clubs in fermanagh, 18 senior, with 2 junior although Coa played in the IFC. You're right fermanagh club football is going through a bit of a low ebb at the minute. To be honest several factors are responsible. If you look at Enniskillen, the county town, with the largest settlement population, there is only one football club but five soccer teams. A lot of fellas play football at underage level and then concentrate on soccer when they get older. Thats a major problem in Enniskillen IMO. As regards other clubs I really dunno why the standard has got so poor. Yes there are some small clubs, but sure every county has clubs of a similar size. You mention joining forces with Leitrim. This was actually mooted as a solution about 10 years ago but it never happened. I think the attitude was that it would only paper over the cracks and wouldn't solve the underlying problem. We tried playing the championship in a round robin format 6 years ago ( i think) and it didnt' work. Once teams qualified for the next stage we were left with meaningless ties with few supporters attending. There have been suggestions by some people that some rural clubs should amalgamate. The dwindling birth rate means that this will eventually happen unfortunately, but in the mean time i think clubs should merge for the championship, as a lot of smaller clubs never have a chance of a decent run.
Overall despite the above we aren't doing too badly and the county's fortunes indicates that we punch way above our weight. Maybe we're going through a low point and it'll pick up again. Who knows? All suggestions welcome!
Larger towns historically don't do that well c.f. Magherafelt & Maghera, but that can only be used as a soft excuse. Loup as a parish, is as small as many of your rural clubs, but they introduced a structure at underage level to great success. Ballinderry would also be a smallish rural club but it is not fair to compare them with anyone as they're just fanatics!! It's down to having a plan and setting it in place & folowing it through. I see Tempo are starting to reap the reward of a good underage policy. Is the county board doing anything to introduce anything or are they leaving it to the clubs?
If fairness to the county board they are probably doing the what most other counties are doing. Peter McGinnity is the football development officer and is doing a lot of good things with the schools. As regards my own club the numbers attending u-8s and u-10s is incredible, which indicates that the work being done is paying off. IMO no areas in Fermanagh are as fanatically about football as you would get in parishes in Tyrone, Armagh or south Derry. It's important to them alright, but not the religion that it is in other areas. I dunno if there's any solution to that. It's just tradition.
Interesting problem, especially in Enniskillen.
Think Enniskillen need to have a seroius look at their structure, too many youngsters slipping away, and a number of new soccer teams are poaching players away at a crucial age.
I still play local soccer and there's been an explosion in the number of local Catholics now playing with various soccer clubs across Fermanagh that would have been unheard of a few years ago.
Lisnaskea, Lisbellaw, Clabby, Fivemiletown, Maguiresbridge, Ederney and all the Enniskillen teams are full of players who quit football or now juggle both. There's even a new soccer team entering the league this year from Tempo, called Orchard Farm.
Where once they were Protestant clubs only that is now far from the case, and the GAA are losing out.
Some of the county's best, Enda Ferris, Mark Little, Paul Ward, Ronan McCabe, Colm Monaghan, Shane McCabe have been at it, I even ran marked Peter Canavan last year in soccer.
At least he's past his best in football for Tyrone, our players are turning to soccer at a much younger age than ever.
All those clubs have drawn in a lot of players and filled a void left by the GAA in the new political climate.
The structure needs to be examined or we will continue to lose players of all abilities to local soccer clubs.
Soccer is a major problem, but not the only one. I think you can juggle the two succesfully, sure the soccer season is nearly over when the football season gets underway. I like many others successfully played the two until I went to England. The Fermanagh & Western is one of the most competitive and well run amateur soccer associations in the north. Football players will always want to play soccer in Fermanagh and there's no point trying to stop it happening. But I do take the point that club football is not as strong because players do not devote all of their time and energy to it unlike players in other counties.
Anyone know how the Newtown V Brookeboro replay ended up tonight? Our seniors drew with Teemore 0-7 to 0-7 in the league.
Quote from: inisceithleann on August 17, 2007, 09:45:48 PM
Anyone know how the Newtown V Brookeboro replay ended up tonight? Our seniors drew with Teemore 0-7 to 0-7 in the league.
Newtown 0-11 Brookboro 0-04
Any results from today's games?
Skea beat Donagh by 7
Our seniors beat Irvinestown by 2 points. Good to get a win again.
A win's a win, but Irvinestwon have been the whipping boys this year, must have been tight enough.
Who are Enniskillen hoping to overhaul in the relegation places? Would be a total farce if they were to be relegated
Ourselves, Teemore, Roslea and Donagh are done there. Irvinestown are already gone at this stage so we'll be hoping the 3 points we got this weekend will move us up the table. Its quite tight actually at the bottom.
Did Enniskillen ,not pick up 3 points from their weekend games , not 4 as stated in your recent posting.
Quote from: KIDDO on August 21, 2007, 12:08:40 AM
Did Enniskillen ,not pick up 3 points from their weekend games , not 4 as stated in your recent posting.
Aye it was 3, wishful thinking on my part :)
Any of you guys follow the small ball??
Any predictions for this weekends championship hurling final??
I used to play hurling for the law up until minor.
But i have to say i was absolutly disgusted when i heard that they pulled out of the armagh league at the start of the season. Thats no way to develop hurling within the county.
But still hoping that they can claim another victory against skea this weekend. i hear that the law lads that went to america are back and looking likely to start the game at the weekend.
Any word on the results of the Junior semis last night?
Quote from: Tempoman on August 22, 2007, 09:41:31 AM
Any of you guys follow the small ball??
Any predictions for this weekends championship hurling final??
I used to play hurling for the law up until minor.
But i have to say i was absolutly disgusted when i heard that they pulled out of the armagh league at the start of the season. Thats no way to develop hurling within the county.
But still hoping that they can claim another victory against skea this weekend. i hear that the law lads that went to america are back and looking likely to start the game at the weekend.
I'd fancy the Law to win on sunday but there doesn't seem to be much between them and Skea. I heard Lisbellaw had pulled out of the Armagh league. What was the reason behind that decision? I see Kevin McGarry is hurling with Portaferry these days. Big loss to the Law. Is he going to declare himself for Down?
Quote from: OdoSkimodo on August 22, 2007, 09:54:50 AM
Any word on the results of the Junior semis last night?
Teemore beat Tempo and Roslea defeated Devenish.
I'd fancy the Law to win on sunday but there doesn't seem to be much between them and Skea. I heard Lisbellaw had pulled out of the Armagh league. What was the reason behind that decision? I see Kevin McGarry is hurling with Portaferry these days. Big loss to the Law. Is he going to declare himself for Down?
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Yeah, mcgarry has gone to portaferry, i think his bird is from there. I know he didnt tog out for the fermanagh seniors this year, and i think he'd have no problem making the down squad next year.
I think the reason that they pulled out of the armagh league was due to a few of the players goin to the US, and they thought they wouldnt have a strong team for the year. But thats just not right on the guys that have stayed here. That could all prove to be a big down fall for the team come sunday, as they havent played a game in months. The were supposed to have a challenge match last friday, but it was called off at the last minute.
Theres never much between them, and i think skea do have the edge going into the game with their match sharpness.
I hear ollie mcshea was back at training the other nite. i dont know how he does it
Quote from: Tempoman on August 22, 2007, 03:48:34 PM
I hear ollie mcshea was back at training the other nite. i dont know how he does it
The man is a machine. He could play for another 10 years without a doubt if he stayed this fit.
FAO Hurling heads:
In the Derry hurling championship this year, referees from outside the county are being used for the club games. We play this day week and I see the referee is a fermanagh man, Tiernan Mahon. Can anyone on here tell us what sorta referee he is or any wee things he focuses on when refereeing games??
Billy one thing he doesnt like is getting abused by supporters after a game, threatened to have lights put out etc etc...hopfully he is not easily intimidated ;) :)
He will love Slaughneil then!!! (LOL)
Constantly encouraging the referee and telling him how well hes doing, Telling him how they knew his parents before he was born and that they were of fine upstanding moral fibre. if he is really good the 'Slaughtneil' gentlemen and 'ladies' might even offer to do some dentist work for him or Drop him of at A&E should the need arise. Maybe even offering to meet up with the referee after the match to discuss the finer poiints of the GAA and if the referee is busy after the match a work visit will surely be arranged to the availability of all. No finer sight than a Slaughneil crowd rushing on to the pitch after a match to embrace the Referee, tel him how wel hes done and give him a few slaps on the back to show their gratitude for the time he took out to referee for them. Im sure that the Derry referee A McAlynn has very fond memories of the thanks he got from there wonderful fans.
Such a lovely bunch those Slaughneil folk from Deliverence Hill !!!!!
COME ON THE LAW!!!!
Was back home at the weekend (unexpectedly) but still didnt get to the match. I was chatting some of the lads after the game at rock the lough and they said that bogue had a good game, and that ollie played a stormer, and was the difference in the teams. Curran didt do much apart from the goal. I hear the cameras where there because of the darren graham issue, but i didnt see any of the coverage on tv.
As a law supporter i am glad to see them win, however, it is so disappointing that there isnt more competition in fermanagh. Fair play to knocks/gratten for the underage work, but i think more clubs and schools need to promote our national game more.
As for you (london)derry lads, i havent had mcmahon ref me since u-16, which is a long time ago. He can be very picky. and i think he reffed the chirsty ring last year. He did send dermie curran off last year in the championship final for throwing his hurl towards the side-line!!!!! But in derry he shouldnt have a grudge!!
Any word on todays games? Must win game for the Gaels or they really will be relegated
Answering my own question but just heard St Pats beat Enniskillen this evening 1-12 top 1-7, looks like the Gaels are going down, shocking state of affairs
thats shocking if the gaels have been relegated. It could be tough enough for them to gain promotion. There is some very tough opposition in division 2, ederny, kinawley, irvinestown and the gaels all fighting for 2 places.
Lads, the Gaels haven't been relegated yet. I believe they have 1/2 games in hand and if they win those they could maybe leap frog Roslea. I think they still have to play Roslea which will be the key match. Regardless, they have been poor this year and are staring relegation in the face!!
Know they haven't been relegated yet but with Donagh beating them and Roslea beating Skea last week it's looking very bad. Anyone got an updated table??
Team Played Won Lost Drawn Points
Belcoo 15 11 4 1 21
Newtownbulter 15 10 5 0 20
Derrygonnelly 13 7 4 2 16
Teemore 14 7 5 2 16
Devenish 15 8 7 0 16
Lisnaskea 15 6 6 3 15
Donagh 15 7 8 0 14
Roslea 15 6 8 1 13
Enniskillen 13 5 6 2 12
Irvinestown V 14 0 13 1 1
http://www.kinawleygfc.com (http://www.kinawleygfc.com) Kinawley website always seems to have up to date tables
Enniskillen with 5 games to play are far from gone yet. Very possible for any team outside of Newtown or Belcoo to go down yet.
Some major games left, as you said odo, any team below the top two could be relegated!!! Incidently when was the last time Enniskillen where playing division 2 ball?
How the hell do the gaels still have 5 games left to play?? My god, the second division is all wrapped up bar the league final. Do the teams in divsion 1 play that many more games than those in division 2??
What do you think for the championship final??
I'd like to see teemore win. I played football with big quinlan in oz, he's a horse of a man.
Newtown must be the most consistant teams in fermanagh, they are in a final almost every year.
Should be a close one. I wish i was there, but i havent been at a fermanagh championship final for years, where is it being played this year???
I'm pretty sure that the table is incorrect. I believe the Gaels have 3/4 games max. Don't think that table has been updated since the last round of fixtures. Actually not sure where the final is being played....skea? I heard kinawley being mentioned though.
Quote from: Tempoman on September 05, 2007, 04:24:21 PM
How the hell do the gaels still have 5 games left to play?? My god, the second division is all wrapped up bar the league final. Do the teams in divsion 1 play that many more games than those in division 2??
What do you think for the championship final??
I'd like to see teemore win. I played football with big quinlan in oz, he's a horse of a man.
Newtown must be the most consistant teams in fermanagh, they are in a final almost every year.
Should be a close one. I wish i was there, but i havent been at a fermanagh championship final for years, where is it being played this year???
Probably in Lisnaskea just for the spectators point of view, that's where it has been in recent years anyway, woeful pitch though. probably suits the two teams as well.
As for the Gaels it's a joke the way they carry on with fixtures, and apparently they've requested, successfully, to have this weekend's game with derrygonnelly also postponed, without having to give a reason. They're arguing about it on Hoganstand too, the situation baffles me to be honest, they're making a balls of the whole division
Good to have a local player on the board to explain the situation to us exiles. Why are the gaels missing so many players?
Quote from: ExiledGael on September 05, 2007, 06:17:01 PM
Good to have a local player on the board to explain the situation to us exiles. Why are the gaels missing so many players?
There a few reasons why the Gaels are missing so many players but I suppose the simple reason is that the senior team are going though a transitional period. They have won 7 championships in 9 years but the current squad has come to the end of the road. Although Enniskillen is a big town and there is only one GAA club the Gaels have a surprisingly small squad to pick from. Because the senior team was so succesfully over the last decade many players found it difficult to break into the side and grew frustrated and left. The Gaels have also been very unsuccessful at underage level over the last number of years which is now having a knock on effect on the senior team.
If the Gaels are relegated I don't think it would be the end of world for them. They have to begin rebuilding a new squad and begin introducing new players to senior football. It might take a few years but the Gaels will regroup and will be a real force in Fermanagh club football.
The county final will be at Lisnaskea , on Sunday next at 4pm.
Apologies if that table isn't up to date.
Think enniskillen will probably go down but it is still pretty open and a couple of victories could turn things around dramatically.
I think for the good of club football in Fermanagh the situation in Enniskillen should be looked at. When Enniskillen were winning championship after championship they had a squad capable of producing two good senior division one sides. However, obviously being able to field only one senior team alot of players who were definitely division one standard footballers were left on the sidelines or playing the shambles that is junior football in fermanagh. Alot of these players, through frustration are now lost to the GAA in fermanagh to soccer etc.
Enniskillen really needs another club. I know nothing is likely to be done, understandably the gaels will oppose attempts to set up another club on their turf but Fermanagh football could really do with another quality senior club which i think Enniskillen could provide.
Thats what i think anyway
They probably got their match cancelled as they have a Junior semi on Friday night against Kinawley...they have one hell of a junior team though!
Erne Cup Div 2 semi finals
Enniskillen 1-15 Kinawley 0-06
Brookeboro beat Ederney by 7 or 8 points.
Obviously no Newtown of Teemore men on here. The two sides meet in the SFC final in Skea on Sunday. Newtown have been to most consistent team in the county winning the last three Division One titles in a row but have not lifted the SFC in many years.
They go in without their best player Ryan Carson though some say he will return to action for the final. Teemore are probably favourites and rely on Barry Owens and Hugh Brady around midfield to win ball and Sean Curry and Ciaran O'Reilly up front for scores.
Think this could be the year Newtown make their breakthrough. The tow Johnston brothers and the two Monaghan brothers have been excellent players for a few years now and they deserve a SFC for their trouble.
Can't see any of the two making a real impression in the Ulster series anyhow.
U16 Championship Final
Tempo 3-03 Enniskillen 0-10
Quinn Direct Senior Championship Final
Teemore 0-03 Newtownbutler 2-05
Overall this was a very disappointing game of football played in Lisnaskea today. Newtownbutler played the better football thoughout the game with their goals coming from Daniel O'Keffe and Frank Mulligan. Teemore struggled in all areas of the field. Their big players in Barry Owens and Ciaran O'Reilly were very quiet and they never really got going. The fact that they only scored one point in the second half sums this up. Raymie Johnston was outstanding at midfield today and he was well assisted by Barry Connolly until he got sent off at the beginning of the second half for two bookable offences.
Newtown, who have won the last 3 senior Fermanagh league titles finally delievered in the championship and today they lifted the New York gold cup for the first time since 1997.
Firstly fair play to Newtownbulter. They have been the most consistent team in the county over the last 3 years and fully deserved there victory.
The Johnston brothers were outstanding today and we well backed up by a very hungry and determined Newtownbulter team.
As for the match itself it was an extremly disappointing event. Teemore manged to score a grand total of 3 points in the whole game and i can only say they choked in yet another county final. Their big players did not show up, indeed Owens was very lucky to stay on the pitch. C O'Reilly was dropping back far too deep, so much so the the corner back that was marking him scored 1-01. You would have to ask questions as to what exactly their tactics were.
Thought that maybe Newtown were going to kick themselves out of it in the second half but once they got the second goal the game was over.
Do not think that they will do much in the Ulster club but you never know.
Exiled Gael QuoteBarry Connolly until he got sent off at the beginning of the second half for two bookable offences.
i thought that Barry connolly got a straight red for stamping.
Some serious questions need to be asked about the setup for todays final. Firstly why oh why did nobody decide to have a loudspeaker on the stand so that the crowd could here the announcements and the subs. Only in Fermanagh would this happen. Was a disgrace to see the twp boys who had one the Scor All-Ireland on the pitch before the senior game and nobody in the stand knew what the county chairman was saying and why the boys were standing there.
The state of the toilets were a joke.
And the pitch. How can any teams be expected to play Gaelic football on a pitch where the bounce can not be trusted. Was like watching a rugby ball bounce at times.
Heard from a couple of people that O'Rourke has been offered the Fermanagh job but still has not made up his mind yet.
And if he takes the job i hope he can convince Carson to play for the county. He has all the tools to be an excellent county footballer.
After seeing the standard of forward play on show today it doesn't that a genius to work out why O'Rourke may have reservations about accepting the Fermanagh job!
Unfortunately there is a lack of any quality forwards within the county. Carson would be good addition to the squad but hes had his chance in the senior squad before and he didn't make any real impression.
Carson is perfect for the county if you could get him committed to it all. Just hasn't got the determination needed
O'Keefe, the fella apparently marking O'Reilly must've been impressive. Marking him and still getting forward to score, and good performers?
As for O'Rourke I've heard that story, he has the job if he wants it but still no answer.
Whats the story about it being called the New York Gold Cup?
It was O'Keefe and to be fair to him he played very well. Also for Newtown Clive Fitz had a great game in defence to and Wilson pulled of one great save in the second half from Decky Fitz which would have brought Teemore right back into the game.
Think it is called the Gold cup because it was donated from the Fermanagh club in New York but i could be wrong.
Would love to see O'Rourke take the job but could you blame him if he turned it down. WE will always have a great defence but forwards are few and far between
I think you're right FG about the naming of the New York Gold Cup. Daniel O'Keefe was outstanding today. He took this goal really well. I was also impressed with James Melarkey, he kept Stan very quiet. Barry Connolly also competed very well at midfield. Hes got a lot stronger looking since I last saw him play minor football.
Was impressed with Connollly myself but ruined his own performance by taking a rush of blood to the head. Has improved alot over the past while
Quote from: FermGael on September 09, 2007, 08:10:31 PM
Was impressed with Connollly myself but ruined his own performance by taking a rush of blood to the head. Has improved alot over the past while
I thought he was very unlucky to get sent off. I don't think he did a whole pile wrong. I couldn't believe how poor Teemore were today. They're a physcially strong side but they're not a great footballing wise. Ciaran Reilly and Barry Owens were very disappointing today.
A lot of people are saying Connolly will get a call to the county squad next year. What about O'Keefe? He's a huge fella, pity he wasn't a forward
O'Keefe was really good today. His point in the 2nd half with his left foot was nearly as impressive as the goal he got.
Congrats to newtown, lets hope they give ulster a good crack, and dont give up on everything now.
Which county do they play in the ulster series???
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Quote from: Tempoman on September 10, 2007, 11:06:10 AM
Congrats to newtown, lets hope they give ulster a good crack, and dont give up on everything now.
Which county do they play in the ulster series???
Ulster Club Senior Football Championship 2007
Preliminary Round
21st Oct
(a) 1. Cavan v 2. Donegal at Cavan
Quarter Finals 4th Nov
(b) 4. Derry v 5. Fermanagh at Derry
(c) 6. Monaghan v 7. Armagh at Monaghan
(d) 8. Tyrone v 9. Down at Omagh
(e) 3. Antrim v (a) Cavan / Donegal
If: Antrim v Cavan at Casement Park
Antrim v Donegal at Ballybofey
Semi Finals
18th Nov Derry/Fermanagh v Antrim/Cavan/Donegal
Tyrone/Down v Monaghan/Armagh
Final
25th Nov
Christ poor Newtown could be on the end of some hammering from the Derry champions (Ballinderry almost certainly).
They beat Mayobridge last year 0-15 to 0-1 or something.
Yeah, its a tough draw for Newtown but there will be no pressure on them at all. I'd say they will be just happy enough to win the championship after 10 years.
Quote from: FermPundit on September 10, 2007, 07:02:05 PM
I'd say they will be just happy enough to win the championship after 10 years.
And there lies the problem.
Quote from: believebelive on September 10, 2007, 08:38:54 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on September 10, 2007, 07:02:05 PM
I'd say they will be just happy enough to win the championship after 10 years.
And there lies the problem.
Very true, them boys will be on a bender for weeks! They were bad enough when they won the league, they'll not give one shit for the Ulster series. They won it so I suppose it's their own choice
Manor House SFL Div 1
Derrygonnelly 2-11, Enniskillen 1-5
It looks very much like Division 2 football for the us next year.
Was not at the match but there was no Bradley, McCabe, The 2 Keenans obviously, The 2 Brewsters, and Clucker.
Do not think that too many teams in fermanagh would be able to stay up missing players of that quality.
We still have a chance but need to Beat Roslea and win 1 of our other reamining fixtures against Devenish or Derrygonnelly cause Roslea will win there last game.
Derrygonnelly play Roslea in their last game and it anybody thinks that the Harps are going to beat Roslea if it means that by doing do we stay up, then they can think again, league final or no league final to play for.
Why in the name of god, when the club are at their lowest ebb in history, are all those players not even turning out??
Quote from: ExiledGael on September 17, 2007, 06:41:34 PM
Why in the name of god, when the club are at their lowest ebb in history, are all those players not even turning out??
Most of the players mentioned by FG are out injured at the moment. They've been missing for most of the summer hence why the Gaels have been fielding such understrength sides and are now involved in a relegation battle. The fact that Brewster Park has been closed this year hasn't helped Enniskillen at all. It has bascially meant that every game has been an away match.
If the Gaels get some of the key men back, especiially in the forward line I fancy them to pick up 4 points in the last 3 games. I think they play Devenish and Derrygonnelly at 'home' but not sure about the Roslea game.
QuoteBradley, McCabe, The 2 Keenans obviously, The 2 Brewsters, and Clucker
All of the above players are out injured at the moment except the two Keenans who have not been seen since they got sent off in the League against Newtown by plug. And I would be surprised if you see them in a Gaels shirt again this year.
The closure of Brewster has been a huge loss to us because it really does suit the way we play football and with 2 'away' matches against each team it has made things tough.
Honestly think we will get relegated this year.
Would be an awful shock for the club but we have flirted with relegation before and only the old playoff system saved us.
We have a decent minor and U-16 team coming through and with our U-14 team doing the treble it has not been all doom and gloom at the club this year. The youth rebuilding has restarted and hopefully that all means things look good for the future.
But whether these lads will be plying their trade in the 1st or 2nd division is a good question.
god save us lads cant believe gaels are in this situation,it's not that long ago yous were one of the top teams in ulster never mind fermanagh,i know paul brewster has been trainning in bellaghy to kept himself in shape but did not realise he was injured,anyway hope yous pull out of it.
Is the old play-off system against the second placed team in Division Two still in place?? Will that save the Gaels or has it been scrapped
It's been scrapped Exiled. Bottom 2 teams in Division one are relegated. The Gaels were involved in a relegation play off when they defeated Brookeboro a few seasons ago but a play off won't save them this year.
Tempo and Brookeboro contest the Division two league final this season. Even though both teams have been promoted I still expect a very close game given that there is no love lost between these two local rivals.
Brookeboro and Tempo have both dominated Division two this year but it remains to be seen will either side be able to compete against the big teams in Divison one next year!
Brookeborough obviously had a good Championship run but you would have to think Tempo would be best equipped for promotion. They've flattered to decieve before but they've a few great players and any amount of impressive youngsters from their dominant underage teams, surely they'll make their big breakthrough sonner or later.
Judging by the amount of titles they've won underage they could be the next dominant team Fermanagh produces
Although underage success will increase the chances of success at senior level there are no guarantees. Newtown have never been that successful at underage level yet they won the championship and the last few division one league titles. Many clubs lose players after minor level. The main challenge for Tempo in the next few years is to keep hold of their young players and successfully integrated them into senior football. They have struggled to establish themselves in division one with relegation usually coming the season after promotion.
Finally seen an up to date table online, Gaels still have a chance, going to come down to one big game with Roslea though
Pld W D L Pts
Belcoo 15 10 1 4 21
Newtown 15 10 0 5 20
Teemore 15 8 2 5 20
Devenish 16 9 0 7 18
D'gonnelly 15 8 2 5 18
Lisnaskea 16 7 3 6 17
St Patricks 16 8 0 8 16
Roslea 16 6 1 9 13
Enniskillen 15 5 2 8 12
Irvinestown 15 0 1 14 1
St Pats have to play Irvinestwon so that should get them safe. Enniskillen play D'gonnelly, who hammered them at the weekend and then Roslea which should decide who goes.
Yeah its between Roslea and the Gaels for the final relegation spot. I think the Gaels can afford to lose to Derrgonnelly and still stay up provided they pick up 4 points from the last two games against Roslea and Devenish. In saying that though there is no reason why they couldn't beat the harps this weekend if they get a few key men back. They had a very weak side out against Derrygonnelly last weekend so I wouldn't read too much into that defeat. Although down at the the foot of the table when they have their best side out the Gaels are still a match for any side in the county. It's going to be tough but they have a fighting chance of staying up.
Bit of a disaster the latest news on Brewster Park for Fermanagh. Jesus how long does it take to sort out a ground, not like they're building a new stadium or anything. No coincidence that we done so crap in the NFL last year with all our games away and now Enniskillen are suffering too.
can't believe how long this has been going on for
Derrydonnelly 0-6 Enniskillen Gaels 1-4.
Was not at the game and just got a text with the score and some basic information. Gaels had Clucker back at Center half back and apparently he was the difference between the 2 teams. Big Brew scored the all important goal.
Also Teemore beat Belcoo and have not heard the other result but i would presume that Newtown beat Irvinestown.
If Newtown did win that leaves the table as follows:
Pld W D L Pts
Newtown 16 11 0 5 22
Belcoo 16 10 1 5 21
Teemore 16 8 2 5 20
Devenish 16 9 0 7 18
D'gonnelly 16 8 2 6 18
Lisnaskea 16 7 3 6 17
St Patricks 16 8 0 8 16
Enniskillen 16 6 2 8 14
Roslea 16 6 1 9 13
Irvinestown 16 0 1 14 1
Leaves next weeks game in Roslea as a winner stays up game and looks like it is between Belcoo and Teemore for 2nd place and a league final place.
As for Brewster you can do nothing about the weather and it will be ready when it is ready. You can not sow grass if it is raining all the time as it has been this summer.
The weather has been dreadful but with prunty doing the work you can be sure it will be a good job.
Has harmed both Fermanagh and the Gaels this year but the county board knew that this work had to be done and did nothing to develop an alternative venue within the county. You just have to look at our neighbours in Tyrone to see that their county board and clubs have developed a couple of alternatives to Healy Park for national league games. If memory serves me right Healy park was closed a couple of years ago for the National league and Tyrone still played their home games within the county.
Brewster park still belongs to the Gaels club and they did not envisage such a long process. The county board has not developed an alternative and although they have got some good training facilities for the county(Lissan), they have to pick one of the other grounds within the county and develop it to hold at least 12000 people. Whether that ground is Irvinestown, Tempo, Kinawley or Lisnaskea they must take action now so that this situation does not happen again.
It has probably cost Fermanagh at least division 2 NFL football this year
Tempo 1-11 Brookeboro 0-05
Manor House SFL Div 1 Round 10 @ 3.30pm
Belcoo v Derrygonnelly
Lisnaskea v Devenish
Roslea v Enniskillen
Teemore v Newtownbutler
Irvinestown v St Patricks
B. McCaffrey & Sons Erne Cup 4 Semi-finals @ 5pm
Tempo v Maguiresbridge @ Donagh
Derrylin v Derrygonnelly @ Belcoo
Obviously looks like Roslea vs the Gaels is a winner stays up match.
With the top 4 all playing each other this weekend, the league final picture is not as clear as I thought it would be.
Heard that Teemore were 8 or 9 points up at half time and Belcoo came back to get within a point.
Must have been some game
Read a bit about Coa O Dwyers there in the Gaelic life mag. was just wonderinh how the posters on here were sayin that because Enniskillen Gaels were so strong not many younger players broke through their senior team. did many younger or lesser talented players never transfer to smaller clubs like Coa were they would get regular football.
Coa have done very well in the last while largely due to the fact that Enniskillen Gaels had such a successful senior team, the underage teams in the club were not given the proper preparation and were over looked.
But as well as this the current Coa team included some players whose family have very strong ties with the Coa club and they now just happen to live in enniskillen. These players would never have togged out for the Gaels anyway.
Fair play to Coa and I hope that in the next couple of years they can make the step up into intermediate football.
what way division 1 table now. are Enniskillen out of danger yet? :-\ :-[
firstly the table is
MANOR HOUSE SENIOR FOOTBALL LEAGUE DIVISION 1
Team Pld Won Lt Drn For Agt Diff Pts
Newtownbutler 16 11 5 0 222 163 59 22
Belcoo 16 10 5 1 237 195 42 21
Teemore 16 9 5 2 210 181 29 20
Derrygonnelly 16 8 6 2 197 178 19 18
Devenish 16 9 7 0 186 199 -13 18
Lisnaskea 16 7 6 3 183 177 6 17
St Patrick's 16 8 8 0 201 179 22 16
Enniskillen 16 6 8 2 169 205 -36 14
Roslea 16 6 9 1 164 193 -29 13
Irvinestown 16 0 15 1 160 259 -99 1
But even more worringly
Taken from http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7016190.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7016190.stm)
QuoteSylvester Mulrone and Sean Maguire are emerging as front-runners for the vacant manager's role with Fermanagh.
The pair had previously assisted former county boss Charlie Mulgrew who stepped down after the All-Ireland qualifier defeat by Meath on 14 July.
The pair's apparent joint application could find favour with the Fermanagh Board.
Malachy O'Rourke was in line to take over but it is believed he has opted out due to work commitments.
O'Rourke is also heavily involved in managing the Cavan Gaels club.
Both Mulrone and Maguire were selectors when Mulgrew was in charge and have intimate knowledge of Erne football. Maguire is father of current county forward Eamon.
Former Derry manager Mickey Moran had also been linked with the vacancy.
Have no bother with Syd, a good gaa man and knows a good deal about football. But as For Maguire, he does not have a clue. We could end up playing division 4 football if he is in charge.
Please no!!!!
Not to pleased about this either, i wouldnt rate either of them.
Kinawley have been a good team or the last 5 or 6 years, but they were no where near div 2 this year with mulrone managing them.
Lets hope it the bbc making stuff up again!!!!
Tempoman i have heard today that O'Rourke has declined and their really is nobody else unless Moran fancys a go at it. Maguire has alot of support from inside the county board due to the upset U-21 victory that was achieved this year over Down. Pity nobody remembers the subsequent hammering by Monaghan in the next round.
I will always remember him as the man who had one of the best minor Fermanagh teams of the last 15 years(most of the team went on the next year year to win the McRory with St Michaels, McGrath, Owens, Bradley,O'Reilly,to name but a few as well as the lyttles and Clucker who did not go to St Mick's ) and they got well beat in the first round of the minor championship.
I suppose the best thing that comes about from his appointment is that at least it would mean Eamoon Maguire would definietly be in the team :-\
I'm disappointed to hear that Mulrone and Maguire are being lined up for the Fermanagh post. They're both loyal GAA men but I can't see them improving the fortunes of the county team. Mulrone is a decent enough club manager but he didn't do much with Kinawley this year. I don't know too much about Maguire apart from his involvement with the U21's this year.
I honestly thought O'Rourke would take the post. He has a proven track record at ulster club level and I thought he would jump at the chance to manage at inter county level.
I really hope the county board aren't looking to take the cheap option and appoint two local guys. I know Fermanagh aren't blessed with the best pool of talent at the moment but surely there must have been a bit more interest in the position.
I heard a rumour last week that the Longstone manager, I think his name is Dawson was interested in the job. Did anyone else hear this??
Quote from: FermPundit on September 27, 2007, 09:01:51 PM
I heard a rumour last week that the Longstone manager, I think his name is Dawson was interested in the job. Did anyone else hear this??
:D :D :D why does that not surprise me...stay well away.
To be honest lads i wouldnt be happy with any of the people strongly linked with the job i.e. maguire, mulrone, o'neill. I was part of a county minor setup under o'neill and can't believe he's in the frame. No disrespect to these men but are they really gonna deliver the anglo celt? could they outwit mickey harte and co? I really dont think so.
Personally i feel we should be pulling all the stops out for the best possible next manager. lets face it, with armagh and tyrone in transition this is our best chance in the last 15years to win ulster and we need the right in charge. If the right men dont want it then thats fair enough but the top available managers (i.e. moran, kernan) must be approached.
I would also be delighted with dom corrigan or o'rourke, but it doesnt look like they will happen.
we need someone bigger than mulrone, o'neill or maguire
someone tell me the Gaels were beat
SFL Division 1 result.
Roslea 0-04 Enniskillen 0-04.
That leaves it in Enniskillen's hands. If they beat Devenish next weekend they stay up.
Quote from: FermPundit on September 30, 2007, 05:40:46 PM
SFL Division 1 result.
Roslea 0-04 Enniskillen 0-04.
That leaves it in Enniskillen's hands. If they beat Devenish next weekend they stay up.
4 each?? defences on top or just a horrible game?
Quote from: longball on October 01, 2007, 01:34:34 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on September 30, 2007, 05:40:46 PM
SFL Division 1 result.
Roslea 0-04 Enniskillen 0-04.
That leaves it in Enniskillen's hands. If they beat Devenish next weekend they stay up.
4 each?? defences on top or just a horrible game?
A brutal game by accounts. I wasn't at the match but from what I've heard Roslea kicked the game away and missed numerous chances. It'll be interesting to see what teams Derrygonnelly and Devenish put out next weekend. I reckon both the Gaels and Roslea will win their last games but as the Gaels are a point ahead, they'll stay up.
Other Results this weekend,
DIVISION I
BELCOO 2-09 DERRYGONNELLY 0-11
LISNASKEA 1-09 DEVENISH 1-09
ROSLEA 0-04 ENNISKILLEN 0-04
TEEMORE 0-11 NEWTOWNBUTLER 0-09
IRVINESTOWN 2-07 ST PATRICKS 0-18
DIVISION 3 SEMI-FINAL REPLAY
ERNE GAELS 1-07 AUGHADRUMSEE 0-09
That leaves Belcoo top of the table when NTB in second place. It has been a very successful year for Belcoo when you consider that most people were predicting that they would be relegated. Fair play to them, they have proved all the critics wrong!
Who've been the standout performers for Belcoo? Presumably Shane McCabe and Stevie Maguire must be doing well, any county prospects
Aye, McCabe and Stevie are probably the best known players but they have an all round good team. They have been pretty successful at underage level over the last few years and most of those players are starting to come through now. John Carrigan, Kieran Leonard, Ciaran Flaherty and Ryan Dolan are all good players that spring to mind. Most of these guys are still pretty young so I'm not sure if any of them would be ready for the county side just yet.
I'd love to see big Stevie back in the green jersey next year. He was badly missed last year. Shane McCabe would be a certain starter for Fermanagh if he gave gaelic his 100% commitment but he's the captain of Dungannon Swifts this year so I'm sure whether he'll put himself forward for the county next year.
Sorry, Fermanagh men - but that attck on the GAA on UTV tonight was out of order !!! Totally out of order - it made shit out of your county and your clubs - I'm sure some of you lads have played soccer somewhere in Fermanagh and got called a few choice names but never complained - and I don't recall UTV doing any programmes either !
Yep, I agree. It made the Fermanagh county board look extremely bad. What did the programme makers expect the county board to do? Find out who the individual was who made the comments and make an example of him? What would that achieve? I've played soccer for most my life and I can honestly say I have never heard any sectarian comments in any games. Fermanagh is a small sporting county and both sides of the community participate together in a whole range of sports. Sectarianism is not a problem in the county. The fact that Darren Graham has accepted the apologise of the county board and has returned to gaellic games shows shows to me that he felt that Fermanagh GAA reacted in a positive way to the whole situation.
It looked to me that Graham was seeking attention - did the subject not receive enough attention in the papeers / tv before now ?
Why did he have to participate in this programme and paint the Fermanagh GAA board and playing members as a crowd of bigots ?
How can he claim to be in love with the GAA and then tear strips off them in the media ? It doesn't make sense to me - he made his point which was worth making, but he really bled it to death tonight -
i agree orangeman--the issue was over and he dragged it up again for attention
From the Hoganstand
Former Down star James McCartan says he won't be commenting any further about speculation linking him with the vacant Fermanagh post until his club commitments are complete.
The two-time All Star has insisted that no-on from Fermanagh had approached him about succeeding Charlie Mulgrew in the Ernesiders' hot seat.
And he insisted he wouldn't have anything to say about the situation until "Burren have completed their league campaign."
I would be pleased to see wee James take the post. He did very well at Queens and I hear he's very well thought of by the players he has coached. Did anyone hear he was to take the job or is it just speculation? The fact he hasn't commented on it may suggest he's interested in the position.
SFL Division one result.
Enniskillen 0-11 Devenish 0-6. The Gaels stay up and Roslea join Irvinestown in Div 2 next year. I'm not sure how the Roslea v Derrygonnelly game ended up but Roslea were leading 0-08 0-04 at half time.
Well the Gaels stay up, probably for the best for the sake of our biggest club it would have been a farce for them to go down. Plenty would have loved it though.
Surely they will have to go back to the drawing board from the bottom up and try to sort out the club. Hope they can go back to being a force in the county and Ulster because no-one else in the county has the numbers of talent.
Will that be the official retirements now for people like Paul Brewster, Neil Cox and Michael Lily?
From a derry point of view sad to see gaels fall from grace, tho remember lavey in derry didnt bring enough yopung blood through at 1 stage & are now in div 2. gaels v unlucky didnt win at least 1 ulster club, coz they could have collected the ai too. all counties need fresh teams comong through in c'ship as it helps keep club scene alive.
good luck next year for fermanagh - hope youse get a good manager early on & give ulster a real rattle - youre not too far behind bas the rest of us arent nearly as good as the irish news makes out.
Heard today that Longstone's manager Frank Dawson is in the running for the Fermanagh job and is one of the favourties. Anyone shed any light on the truth of this?
The Frank Dawson story is on the back of todays IN. He manages our club side, could not speak more highly of the man.
Quote from: southdown on October 13, 2007, 03:12:55 PM
The Frank Dawson story is on the back of todays IN. He manages our club side, could not speak more highly of the man.
Bellaghy wouldnt have too high an opinion of him
Quote from: gaagaa on October 13, 2007, 08:11:44 PM
Quote from: southdown on October 13, 2007, 03:12:55 PM
The Frank Dawson story is on the back of todays IN. He manages our club side, could not speak more highly of the man.
Bellaghy wouldnt have too high an opinion of him
Shocked is all i can say.... it is funny with the timing of this from a bellaghy perspective. When Dawson took us in 2003 we lost our first round match to Glenullin, who we play in tomorrows county final. all we can say is that were glad Longstone have him...no disrepects to Longstone.
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 13, 2007, 09:55:37 PM
Shocked is all i can say.... it is funny with the timing of this from a bellaghy perspective. When Dawson took us in 2003 we lost our first round match to Glenullin, who we play in tomorrows county final. all we can say is that were glad Longstone have him...no disrepects to Longstone.
And that was a glenullin team without paddy bradley & shane o'kane
Belcoo have won their first ever senior title, hammering Teemore 2-15 to 1-08 in the SFL Div 1 Final. Fair play to Belcoo showing that underage success can pay dividends at senior level.
The wait's over for the new boss lads, apparently the county board have appointed O'Rourke tonight.
Brilliant news for us, hope he can coax Stevie Maguire back into the fold
Totally agree EG, big Stevie is a great player and have struggled at 14 since he left. Shane McCabe at centre half forward as well, a real class act should be considered as well.
Would be great to see the two of them in.
I wonder just how committed McCabe can be while he is being payed by Dungannon Swifts for the soccer, he's even their captain so it might be hard for him to leave. Don't really think he could do both with the required level of committment.
Delighted with the appointment, think everyone will be.
For once fair play to the county board. They waited out and despite the rumours of O'Rouke turning them down, they got their man.
A good choice who has won an Ulster club and different county titles with three different clubs.
His record is excellent and hopefully he has what it takes to bring us firstly up from division 3 and secondly a good campaign in the championship this year.
If Fermanagh are to have a good year O'rourke needsto get Big Stevie and Carson out.
Paul Coyle and Peter Leonard are with him as well. I am assumming that is Paul coyle from Devenish who would have played for the county in the 90's but i am not to sure exactly who Peter Leonard is.
CAn anybody shed any light??
As for the championship draw i am happy enough. Brewster should be ready(thankgod for this mild spell of weather) and i would not think that Monaghan would really be relishing the opportunity of heading to fortress brewster but after seeing Antrim v Cavan being drawn, i was praying for Fermanagh to be next out of the hat
Paul Coyle played with O'Rourke at St Marys as well ..Peter Leonard is from Donagh ..
O'Rourke is new Fermanagh manager
Malachy O'Rourke succeed Charlie Mulgrew in the job
Malachy O'Rourke has been appointed as the new Fermanagh football manager.
O'Rourke, who guided Cavan Gaels to this year's Cavan title, succeeds Charlie Mulgrew who stepped down after four years in charge in July.
Derrylin man O'Rourke guided Loup to the Ulster Club title in 2003 and steered Errigal Ciaran and Cavan Gaels to county titles in Tyrone and Cavan.
Others interviewed for the job were Frank Dawson and the joint-ticket of Sylvester Mulrone and Sean Maguire.
Mulrone and Maguire were part of Charlie Mulgrew's backroom team.
606: DEBATE
Can O'Rourke bring success to the Ernemen?
Mulgrew resigned after the 0-11 to 0-9 All-Ireland qualifier defeat by Meath.
Ballygawley man Leo McBride will act as a team trainer and selector while Devenish club-man Paul Coyle and Donagh man Peter Leonard will also be part of the backroom team.
McBride linked up with O'Rourke during the Fermanagh man's spell in charge of Loup and he has remained with the Derrylin man ever since.
O'Rourke, who played for Fermanagh for several years, turned down the job after Dominic Corrigan's departure in late 2003.
At that stage, O'Rourke was involved in preparing Loup for the All-Ireland Club Semi-Finals and he said that it would have been unfair to have taken on both roles at the same time.
However, he did pointedly add that he was keen on taking the Fermanagh job at some stage in the future and that has now come to pass with his appointment.
O'Rourke will be in charge of Cavan Gaels in Sunday's AIB Ulster Club clash against St Eunan's Letterkenny at Kingspan Breffni Park.
What changed O'Rourkes opinion, from my sources he had turned the offer down, and it had nothting to do with family/work committments?
Jeasus Max, you know some poeple ....
Fair play to O'Rourke and wish him all the best.
Needs to get Carson, Stevie and a fully commited McCabe and McCluskey and the team will not be far off.
Heard McBride is a great trainer also.....
Aidy, friends in high places or...i just slabber alot :D :D :D
Am saying nothing ;)
Think the case all along was that the job was his if he wanted it, but he wouldn't get involved in the speculation or process until Cavan Gaels won the Championship last Sunday
Will he draft any Boho St Faber's men into the panel ??
What do you call a Fermanagh man with an Ulster Medal?
An Irish Dancer!!
Quote from: Gold on October 16, 2007, 10:42:53 PM
Will he draft any Boho St Faber's men into the panel ??
Whats the story with Boho. Was the craic about them reforming a total windup or was it seriously being considered. I've a friend in Boho and he has been advocating if for years. They really don't see themselves as Derrygonnelly men at all.
I know i know few from there--they were gettin jerseys made by O'Neills recently in a new version of their old jerseys 4 the craic.
Dont think they have enough players who would commit but it would be great if they did--they are a good 5/6 mile away from the Harps and im sure wud rather have their own team 4 their own parish
I think they should run a junior team for Erne Cup Div 2 and then players should be allowed to play for Derrygonnelly in the championship. I mean Derrygonnelly have a junior B team and this team could easily be St. Faber's.
U boys were lucky stayin up this year--is there many players who dont get a game in Enniskillen??
Its such a large town for there only 2b one team in the same way as Portlaoise and Omagh
Do you think there should be more than 1 team?
I bet loads of boys well good enough drift awat when they r students
Quote from: Gold on October 16, 2007, 11:13:48 PM
U boys were lucky stayin up this year--is there many players who dont get a game in Enniskillen??
Its such a large town for there only 2b one team in the same way as Portlaoise and Omagh
Do you think there should be more than 1 team?
I bet loads of boys well good enough drift awat when they r students
Yeah we did well to stay up but the problems have been caused by the Gaels dominance for the last 10 years. Many fellas after minor couldn't get onto the senior team because it contained so many county players and gave up or concentrated on soccer. Enniskillen has 6 soccer teams which explains a lot as well. Even though we only have one football club our membership and player numbers is not massive. A lot work is going to have to be done to bring us back again. We haven't won the minor championship since 1998, indicating that the club didn't take underage as seriously as they should have when the senior team was competing for Ulster Club titles.
Quote from: mick999 on October 16, 2007, 10:09:12 AM
Paul Coyle played with O'Rourke at St Marys as well ..Peter Leonard is from Donagh ..
i think coyle played for jordanstown. long way from swatragh to training in fermanagh
Coyle is a strange choice.... has to be good mates with O'Rourke, because Coyle has no track record of management or coaching at all in derry where he lives.
Lads are we going to welcome Rory Gallagher back into the fold if O'Rourke asks him.
Rory Gallagher is probably the most naturally gifted footballer that Fermanagh have produced in the last 15 years and if O'Rourke wants him in the panel i see no reason as to why he should not be there providing his attitude is right. If his attitude is wrong then I do not think that O'Rourke will tolerate him being around.
As for welcoming Gallagher back i would say if he does the business on the field for the county all will be forgiven.
Another question is can he get a transfer from Cavan to Fermanagh?? Would he not need to rejoin a club in Fermanagh??
Also where are we going to be playing our National league games next year?
Brewster Park will not be ready until late Spring at the earliest, so what will happen there??
Quote from: FermGael on October 23, 2007, 09:59:10 AM
Rory Gallagher is probably the most naturally gifted footballer that Fermanagh have produced in the last 15 years and if O'Rourke wants him in the panel i see no reason as to why he should not be there providing his attitude is right. If his attitude is wrong then I do not think that O'Rourke will tolerate him being around.
As for welcoming Gallagher back i would say if he does the business on the field for the county all will be forgiven.
Another question is can he get a transfer from Cavan to Fermanagh?? Would he not need to rejoin a club in Fermanagh??
Also where are we going to be playing our National league games next year?
Brewster Park will not be ready until late Spring at the earliest, so what will happen there??
As Rory Gallagher was born in Fermanagh and previously played for them, he can continue playing club football in Dublin as far as I know. We'll be playin our matches in Clones and Cavan FermGael. Brewsters the only county stadium we can avail of, so it's it or nothing.
Not sure I'd want a bit of him back.
Anyway he played in Cavan with Crosserlough last year, can he jump ship again
what sort of team are your county champions - will they be worth going to see against glenullin next week?
Quote from: gaagaa on October 27, 2007, 12:37:25 PM
what sort of team are your county champions - will they be worth going to see against glenullin next week?
Newtownbutler are a good side and have won the Div 1 of the senior league several times in recent years, but have struggled to win the championship, this is their first win since 1997. They will put it up to Glenullin, and will be competitive but it's unlikely they could match Glenullin's talent. They've a couple of county players in the Johnston brothers, Paul and Raymie. I hope they give a good account of themselves, and I think they will.
Lads is there any truth in the rumour that a new team is forming in Enniskillen under the name Cúchonnacht Gaels? Apparently it's for newcomers to Enniskillen from rural areas in Fermanagh that don't fancy playing with Enniskillen Gaels. Rumour has it that they'll play at Lissan, which is controversial enough with it being in Pobal parish.
Quote from: inisceithleann on October 27, 2007, 12:42:01 PM
Quote from: gaagaa on October 27, 2007, 12:37:25 PM
what sort of team are your county champions - will they be worth going to see against glenullin next week?
Newtownbutler are a good side and have won the Div 1 of the senior league several times in recent years, but have struggled to win the championship, this is their first win since 1997. They will put it up to Glenullin, and will be competitive but it's unlikely they could match Glenullin's talent. They've a couple of county players in the Johnston brothers, Paul and Raymie. I hope they give a good account of themselves, and I think they will.
glenullin play open football going by what ive seen of them this year
Newtown have been the most consistent team in Fermanagh for years now but the Championship always eluded them until now. For this reason I think they'll see the Fermanagh title as enough for a historic year, though Glenullin are sort of in the same boat.
Their top player, and probably the Fermanagh league's best player for a year or two now is midfielder Ryan Carson. Great talent and brilliant left foot, would be a cert for the county if you could get him committed. Hope they can give a good account of themselves and would imagine the two Johnstons will face up to Eoin and Paddy Bradley, Paul probably marking Paddy.
They haven't got too many county regulars but almost all of them have played for Fermanagh at some level, a few of them who really should be mainstays on the county team - Carson, the two Johnstons, Colm Monaghan at least.
Afraid I can't see anything other than a comfortable Glenullin win, and I've seen both teams play this year. If the weather gets much worse it could be a low scoring affair and give Netwown a chance.
Can you see Glenullin being really fired up for Ulster?
Haven't heard about the new club in Enniskillen, heard similar rumours before so think it will happen some time soon
Quote from: ExiledGael on October 28, 2007, 09:01:11 PM
Can you see Glenullin being really fired up for Ulster?
depends if theyve sobered up. paddy bradley in pretty poor form at the moment.
I think thats good news, if theres a new team starting up in enniskillen, it will be good for the county. So that is goin to be 3 different teams playing from pobal. Tempo, St pats lisbellaw and this new enniskillen team!!!
I'm a long way from home so haven't seen the herald but according to some on Hoganstand ther'es a trial county squad announced:
Gaels- Michael Kerr, Ronan McCabe, Chris Breen, Niall McVeigh, Ryan McCluskey
Skea- Aidie Little, Bob Robertson, Mark McKenna, Brian Og Maguire, Greg O'Donnell
Belcoo- John Carrigan, Ciaran Leonard, Emmett Scallon, Niall Leonard, Ryan Dolan, Shane McCabe
Derrygonnelly- Barry Gallagher, Paul Ward, Johnathan McGurn, Michael Jones
St Pats- Paul Cosgrove, Eamon Maguire, Patrick Cadden
Teemore- Sean Curry, Joey Donegan,
Kinawley- Shaun Doherty, Sean Leonard(Red), Shay Keenan, Brendan McHugh, Matthew Drumm
Erne Gaels- Mark Lyons, Ciaran Smyth, Seamy Ryder, Damian Lyons
Brookeboro- Paddy Mohan, Gerard Woods, Ciaran Donnelly, Ciaran Boyle
Tempo- Cathal McCaffrey, Thomas Campbell, Paudie McCann, Rory Foy, Daryl Keenan, Decky Cambell, Damien Kelly
Newtown- Colum Monaghan, Eugene Maguire, Danny O'Keefe, James Connelly
Ederney- Peter Gormley, Enda Ferris, Dwayne McAlynn, Decky McKeever, John Irvine, Ciaran Aiken
Roslea- Kevin Cosgrove, Peter Lynch, Niall Cassidy
Devenish- Marty O'Brien, Barry Mulrone, Paul O'Brien,
Derrylin- Cahir Shannon, Mark Murphy,
Irvinestown- Shane Goan, Gary Maguire, Conor McGuigan, Fergal Murphy
Belnaleck, Dwayne McNulty, Kevin Connors, Mark Gallagher, Joey Heavey
Coa- Leo McQuaid, Leon Carters, Owen Donnelly
Ballinascreen- Ciaran McElroy
Seems a questionably high representation from Belanaleck/Tempo/Ederney/Kinawley, maybe that's clubsjust forwarding a large amount of players or Hoganstanders being stupid. Not many of the big names there yet.
Did no Boho St Fabers players make the cut ?! ???
Lads, any idea when Mal O'Rourke starts to cut his squad. There's a serious number of players who have got trials and are nowhere near county ctandard. He's hardly going to keep them on the panel? IMO we should keep the current squad and just add a few new faces. Lets face it, aparts from a few Belcoo players, Mulgrew had picked the best 30 for the panel in the last few seasons. Keeping the same close knit group together is the best way forward in my opinion. There's no point changing it for the sake of proving that he's doing things his way.
Agree that the squads Mulgrew had been naming in recent years is pretty much the best we've got for now, with the exception of maybe Shane McCabe and Ryan McCluskey after the fall-out. Hoganstand is full of crap about those deserving of call ups, but the woeful performance of all our clubs on the Ulster stage shows you how shallow the talent pool really is.
Just needs to freshen up things with the squad and get them back to enjoying football and trying to score more than ten points in a game! Any word on how Marty McGrath recovered from the head injury? Sounded very serious at the time?
Looks like we'll never see Stevie Maguire in the Fermanagh shirt again, judging by his quotes after league final
I know most most people feel that the trails are a waste of time but I honestly believe O'Rourke is right to hold them. Charlie Mulgrew constantly got criticised for not attending club games. The management team are starting with a clean slate with them asking clubs to put forward players to attend the trails. I agree that the majority of these guys are average club players but if Malachy O'Rourke finds one or two players for the squad then the trails will have been a worthwhile exercise.
I've been chatting to couple of guys who attended the trails and they have said one or two players have surprised everyone with their performances.
I wouldn't read too much into Fermanagh's awful record in this years Ulster Club. We don't really have any strong clubs at the moment but we do have two or three decent players from every club in the county. With limited resources such as ours we need to exhaust every available avenue to unearth talent for the county squad. If that means holding trails like the one held in a very wet Derrygonnelly yesterday then so be it. At least if there is no success next year no one can be blamed for a lack of effort!!
U21s
Sunday 18th November 2007
U-21 FL Rnd 2
Section A
Maguiresbridge 4-9, Lisnaskea 0-7
Tempo 3-4, Devenish 2-9
Section B
St. Josephs 3-18, Teemore 0-6
Aghadrumsee 0-14, Enniskillen 1-2
Section C
Derrygonnelly 2-14, Derrylin 3-7
St.Patricks 1-14, Erne Gaels 2-6
Quote from: FermPundit on November 18, 2007, 11:21:51 PM
I know most most people feel that the trails are a waste of time but I honestly believe O'Rourke is right to hold them. Charlie Mulgrew constantly got criticised for not attending club games. The management team are starting with a clean slate with them asking clubs to put forward players to attend the trails. I agree that the majority of these guys are average club players but if Malachy O'Rourke finds one or two players for the squad then the trails will have been a worthwhile exercise.
I've been chatting to couple of guys who attended the trails and they have said one or two players have surprised everyone with their performances.
I wouldn't read too much into Fermanagh's awful record in this years Ulster Club. We don't really have any strong clubs at the moment but we do have two or three decent players from every club in the county. With limited resources such as ours we need to exhaust every available avenue to unearth talent for the county squad. If that means holding trails like the one held in a very wet Derrygonnelly yesterday then so be it. At least if there is no success next year no one can be blamed for a lack of effort!!
Would agree with this. How do we know that some guys aren't county standard, unless they are given a chance?? Yes, there are some players who haven't a hope in hell of making the squad but I believe there are a few players who perhaps were just overlooked in the past or for one reason or another didn't want to commit to the county set-up. Anyone know when the panel will be trimmed down?
I think O'Rourke is keeping 40 on the panel until after the Mckenna cup.
Any word on what the 40 man panel is?? Any surprises??
Great news that Ciaran Donnelly and Peter McGinnity are taking the minor team this year.
They are a very talented group of players and with this management team they should be in with a
real chance of a Ulster minor titile this year. Of the current McRory squad, only young Keenan is overage. Add to that a few more of the vocational players and others around the county then we should give it a real rattle.
Quote from: FermPundit on November 18, 2007, 11:21:51 PM
I know most most people feel that the trails are a waste of time but I honestly believe O'Rourke is right to hold them. Charlie Mulgrew constantly got criticised for not attending club games. The management team are starting with a clean slate with them asking clubs to put forward players to attend the trails. I agree that the majority of these guys are average club players but if Malachy O'Rourke finds one or two players for the squad then the trails will have been a worthwhile exercise.
I've been chatting to couple of guys who attended the trails and they have said one or two players have surprised everyone with their performances.
I wouldn't read too much into Fermanagh's awful record in this years Ulster Club. We don't really have any strong clubs at the moment but we do have two or three decent players from every club in the county. With limited resources such as ours we need to exhaust every available avenue to unearth talent for the county squad. If that means holding trails like the one held in a very wet Derrygonnelly yesterday then so be it. At least if there is no success next year no one can be blamed for a lack of effort!!
Any word on who impressed?
Agree that McGinnity and Donnelly as minor managers is a v. positive appointment
Yeah, great minor management appointment. Looking at the players available I reckon this is probably the strongest minor squad the county has had since 2001/2002 when the likes of James Sherry, Shaun Doherty and Ciaran O'Reilly were at that age level. Kieran Donnelly appears to be a good young coach who brought success to Omagh CBS and Peter McGinnity has plenty of managerial experience. Hopefully it'll be a successful year for our minors.
Turning to our seniors, what does everyone think of the McKenna cup draw?
SUNDAY 6th JANUARY 2008
2 pm AT LISNASKEA
FERMANAGH v. ST MARY'S
WEDNESDAY 9th JANUARY 2008
8 pm AT BREFFNI PARK, CAVAN
FERMANAGH v. ARMAGH
SUNDAY 13th JANUARY 2008
2 pm AT CELTIC PARK
DERRY v. FERMANAGH
Like every year the competition will probably be used to give players the opportunity to show what they can do at inter county level. The only problem with the McKenna cup is that it is played in the middle of winter in poor weather and on bad pitches. These conditions don't suit the type of football Fermanagh like to play and it certainly doesn't suit the high number of small light forwards that Fermanagh clubs only ever seem to produce!! I hope O'Rourke doesn't judge any player solely on the McKenna cup and the early stages of the NFL. I really think he needs to get to as many club games as he can later on in the year to see all players play in better conditions and on drier pitches. I don't think the door should be closed on the senior squad this season. Players should be drafted in and out and given their opportunity if they are performing well for their clubs. Fermanagh football is at a rebuilding stage and hopefully this season we can enjoy a wee bit of success and start 2008 in a positive manner unlike the doom and gloom that was associated with the NFL campaign of last year.
heard this evening that Niall and Matthew Keenan have both made the final 40.
Now tell me what club do they play for again?? ;)
I thought only Niall had left. Have both of them moved to new clubs??
Quote from: FermPundit on November 23, 2007, 11:09:28 PM
I thought only Niall had left. Have both of them moved to new clubs??
Nobody has left yet but i would be shocked to see either of them in a Gaels jersey again.
Its a real pity because they are two very talented footballers
Quote from: FermGael on November 24, 2007, 12:09:39 AM
Quote from: FermPundit on November 23, 2007, 11:09:28 PM
I thought only Niall had left. Have both of them moved to new clubs??
Nobody has left yet but i would be shocked to see either of them in a Gaels jersey again.
Its a real pity because they are two very talented footballers
Totally agree FermGael but no doubt they'll be back playing for the Gaels.
After a disastrous few years there must be some major work done behind the scenes for the Gaels. Are they doing anything to invest in their future or are they becoming more divided than ever?
QuoteAfter a disastrous few years there must be some major work done behind the scenes for the Gaels. Are they doing anything to invest in their future or are they becoming more divided than ever?
Define disastrous. This year our reserves got promoted back to division 1, Ok our seniors nearly got relegated but remember due to the development work in Brewster park we did not play one league at home this year. Most senior teams would have struggled with this obstacle as well .
At underage, We made the minor semi finals. made the final of the league and championship at U-16, and our U-14's did the treble.
if you look at the above i think that most teams in the county would be happy enough with that.
It was only last year that we won the Fermanagh championship and took Errigal Ciaran to a point in Omagh in the Ulster club championship. The success we have achieved over the last decade was going to wane at some time but we still have players within the club who are more than capable of bringing us success again
Yes for a couple of years our underage setup was ignored to some extent because of the success of our senior team, but that mistake is being sorted our.
As for being more divided than ever, every club has their own internal politics to deal with and we are no different in that extent.
Name me one club that does not!!!
Taken form the Impartial reporter website:
Te 43 man Fermanagh panel
Ronan Gallagher St.Galls,Belfast
Fergal Murphy Irvinestown
Chris Breen Enniskillen Gaels
Cathal McCaffery Tempo Maguires
Shane McDermott St.Patricks,Donagh
Paul Johnson Newtownbutler
Peter Sherry Roslea Shamrocks
Raymond Johnston Newtownbutler
Shane Lyons Erne Gaels
Barry Owens Teemore Shamrocks
Tom McElroy Brookeborough
Declan O'Reilly Teemore Shamrocks
Hugh Brady Teemore Shamrocks
Niall Bogue Kinawley
Declan Campbell Tempo Maguires
Brian Og Maguire Lisnaskea Emmetts
Barry Mulrone Devenish
Shane Goan Irvinestown
Niall Leonard Belcoo
Ciaran Smith Erne Gaels
Paddy Mohan Brookeborough
Liam McBarron Kilmacud Crokes,Dublin
Damian Kelly Tempo Maguires
Mark Murphy Derrylin O'Connells
James Sherry Roslea Shamrocks
Martin McGrath St.Josephs,Ederney
Ciaran O'Reilly Teemore Shamrocks
Ryan Keenan Tempo Maguires
Mark Little Lisnaskea Emmetts
Niall Cassidy Roslea Shamrocks
Niall Keenan Enniskillen Gaels
Shaun Doherty Kinawley
Tom Brewster Enniskillen Gaels
Matthew Keenan Enniskillen Gaels
Ronan McCabe Enniskillen Gaels
Eamon Maguire St.Patricks,Donagh
Jonathan McGurn Derrygonnelly Harps
Paul Ward Derrygonnelly Harps
Ciaran McElroy Ballinascreen
Ciaran Leonard Belcoo
Seamus Ryder Erne Gaels
Ciaran Boyle Brookeborough
Patrick Cadden St.Patricks,Donagh
Any body know does that mean that McCluskey and S McCabe are out?
I wouldn't read too much into the absence of both McCluskey and Shane McCabe given their soccer commitments. In previous years both have joined up with the squad close to the start of the NFL. I suspect Malachy O'Rourke has come to an agreement with both players regarding their participation this year.
Some new faces in the squad this year including Pat Cadden, Niall and Kieran Leonard, Matthew Keenan, Niall Cassidy, Cathal McCaffrey, Seamus Ryder, Ciaran Smith and Fergal Murphy.
Most of these guys are pretty young so it'll be interesting to see can they make the step up to inter county level. It's encouraging to see Malachy O'Rourke giving a fair few guys an opportunity on the senior panel. I don't think they are too many players missng from the panel that I would have included. Possibly John Carrigan or Mark Lyons but I'm sure the door isn't closed on anyone this year.
Quote from: inisceithleann on November 25, 2007, 10:01:54 AM
Quote from: FermGael on November 24, 2007, 12:09:39 AM
Quote from: FermPundit on November 23, 2007, 11:09:28 PM
I thought only Niall had left. Have both of them moved to new clubs??
Nobody has left yet but i would be shocked to see either of them in a Gaels jersey again.
Its a real pity because they are two very talented footballers
Totally agree FermGael but no doubt they'll be back playing for the Gaels.
What went on with the Keenan brothers and the geals? There must have been some kind of dispute, was there?
Quote from: I SHOT JR on December 03, 2007, 09:50:39 AM
Quote from: inisceithleann on November 25, 2007, 10:01:54 AM
Quote from: FermGael on November 24, 2007, 12:09:39 AM
Quote from: FermPundit on November 23, 2007, 11:09:28 PM
I thought only Niall had left. Have both of them moved to new clubs??
Nobody has left yet but i would be shocked to see either of them in a Gaels jersey again.
Its a real pity because they are two very talented footballers
Totally agree FermGael but no doubt they'll be back playing for the Gaels.
What went on with the Keenan brothers and the geals? There must have been some kind of dispute, was there?
It'd take too long to explain but it's still unknown as to whether they'll return to the blue and yellow.
Good to see Ronan Gallagher back on the panel. Top class keeper, I could never understand why Mulgrew dropped him.
Quote from: john mcgill on December 08, 2007, 08:19:44 PM
Good to see Ronan Gallagher back on the panel. Top class keeper, I could never understand why Mulgrew dropped him.
Gallagher broke the collar bone in 2004 and Niall Tinney became the number one out of necessity more than anything else and of course became young player of year. Ronnie transferred to St. Galls and disappeared. Sure he wasn't number one for the club for a while. Chrissy Breen has been pretty solid between the sticks and I'd be surprised if Ronnie dislodged him.
Glad to see tempo minors progeressing in the ulster club. This team has dominated fermanagh underage football throughout the years. It would be great if they could go all the way.
I think the gaels won this competition a few years ago with mccluskey, mccabe, bradely and gunn. Is this the only fermanagh success??
Quote from: Tempoman on December 10, 2007, 05:26:26 PM
I think the gaels won this competition a few years ago with mccluskey, mccabe, bradely and gunn. Is this the only fermanagh success??
Yep, you're right, Enniskillen are the only Fermanagh club to have ever won the Ulster minor club championship. Although McCluskey, McCabe, Bradley et al were an extremely talented group the Gaels actually won it way back in 1988. Many of these players such as Paul Brewster and Raymie Curran went on to represent Fermanagh at senior level and also helped the Gaels win 7 Fermanagh senior cub championships in the last 10 years.
Here's a link to the Enniskillen website showing the winning minor team of 1988
http://enniskillengaels.fermanagh.gaa.ie/1988ulsterminorclubwinners.html
Well done to Tempo yesterday. They really did the county proud. Let's hope they can go on and win the competition. I'll hopefully get to the Kilrea match on the 22nd December. The main challenge for Tempo is to transfer this success at underage level to success at senior level.
Tempo seem to have a brilliant underage set up in recent years but we've been waiting a while now for them to make the step up to senior. Probably is a matter of time though. Just how good is Daryl Keenan, is he similar to his brother?
One of the best footballers, and the most laid back, that I ever saw was from Tempo, Ciaran Campbell. A giant of a man in stature and character. Good to see Tempo on their way back.
Following a request by the family of the late Emon Coleman, a special day of celebration to mark the life of the man himself is currently been organised for Saturday 7th June 2008, the first anniverasry of his death. On the day there will be a game between Derrys 93 All Ireland winning team and an Irish select of past and present players who played for and against Eamon.
Later in the evening an Informal Dinner will take place in a specialised marquee on the premises of St Treas Ballymaguigan Co Derry, which of course was Eamons home club. Cost of this event is £1000 per table, but in the event that you may not wish to avail of a table a donation of any kind would be very much appreciated.
The charities being supported which were close to Eamon are: Marie Curie Cancer, GOAL, Adoption UK, SMA and Foyle Hospice.
To book a table or make a voluntary contribution you can contact myself on 07875 400 839 or email me on: ronan@moltools.co.uk, or contact Jim Crozier on 07841100141 or email: jimgcrozier@msn.com. Jims address is 246 Shore Road, Magherafelt, Co Derry, BT45 6LH.
Any contributions via cheque can be made out to "Eamon Coleman Memorial Fund"
Many thanks.
Lads, anyone know the reason why Dungannon Swifts have placed Shane McCabe on the transfer list? Could it be because he may be returning to play for Fermanagh next year? Apparently Glentoran have made a bid for him. Interesting to see how this one pans out.
Story in Tyrone Times about missing a Dungannon Swifts league tie in favour of a weekend trip to Newcastle for a stag party, hardly helped his chances for remaining with the Swifts.
Quote from: KIDDO on December 29, 2007, 04:51:09 PM
Story in Tyrone Times about missing a Dungannon Swifts league tie in favour of a weekend trip to Newcastle for a stag party, hardly helped his chances for remaining with the Swifts.
It probably didn't help his cause alright, but I have my suspicions that McCabe is eyeing up a return for Fermanagh, but I stand to be corrected. After all GAA is so much more high profile.
Fermanagh played Cavan in two challenge matches in Teemore on Sunday, winning one and losing one. Anyone take a dander to the games?
Didn't see the Cavan challenge games or hear any reports from it at all. Should make it to Skea this Sunday for the McKenna opener though. Very interesting to see the line out or if O'Rourke will have any style of play implemented at this early stage.
As for McCabe is he even on the county squad? BBC reporting he's signed for Glentoran, turning down an offer from Derry City so that would make any committment to the county tougher than ever. Shortly before he left Dungannon Rodney McAree requested to be placed on the transfer list. He wasn't, McCabe was with the boss stating that in doing so he had the support of several members of the first team. Heard the stag do story doing the rounds and players didn't want him as part of the team, especially as captain.
Decent performance today in Lisnaskea from Fermanagh against St Marys, but drifted in and out of the game scoring heavily in bursts. Though it must be said St Marys were very poor.
Shaun Doherty was impressive at times, scored around 1-4 in total. Good to see Marty McGrath back and though he struggled his way through the game it will do him the world of good. Tommy McElroy another to impress but we struggled in the full-back line. Though with Owens and Bogue to come that shouldn't be a worry.
Wasn't impressed with Gallagher in goals from St Galls, few fumbles and just doesn't inspire confidence despite his constant barking of instructions. Loudest man in the ground today, but won't keep out Tinney/Breen or even Murphy from Queens.
O'Rourke played his strongest possible team almost and at least we now have won as many games this year as we did in the whole of 2007 already.
Good to see Tom Brewster, Ryan McCluskey and Shane McCabe in the crowd, which was probably 1000 or so.
Good result today, and I have great confidence for this season, don't know why, but I like the sounds coming from the camp. O'Rourke has just given the panel a bit if a lift I think. Good to see those fellas watching it, but as regards McCabe, I don't think Glentoran or the East Belfast faithful will be impressed, if McCabe commits himself to Fermanagh. We may have to wait until the end of the soccer season for his return. Anyone have the line up for todays game?
Agree that we won't see McCabe until the soccer season is dead, but McCluskey should feature. Good to see them down all the same.
Not certain of scorers and but this is almost right at least
Ronan Gallagher (St Galls)
Declan Campbell (Tempo)
Paddy Mohan (Brookeborough)
Shane Goan (Irvinestown)
Tommy McElroy (Brookeborough) 0-1
Shane McDermott (Donagh)
Damien Kelly (Tempo)
Marty McGrath (Ederney)
Mark Murphy (Derrylin)
Mark Little (Lisnaskea, captain) 0-3 frees
Shaun Doherty (Kinawley) 1-5, 3 frees
Matthew Keenan (Enniskillen) (also very impressive at times) 0-4, 3 frees
Paul Ward (Derrygonnelly) 0-2
Liam McBarron (Kilmacud) 0-2
Eamon Maguire (Donagh)
Subs: Peter Sherry (Roslea), Declan O'Reilly (Teemore), Ciaran McElroy (Ballinascreen), Pat Cadden (Donagh) 0-1, Ciaran Boyle (Brookeborough).
Good to see Paul Ward scoring a few, he was the best corner forward in Fermanagh last year. Mattie Keenan is a real talent as well, though is a bit light for inter county level. Is Little the captain then for this season?
Not sure, announcer said 'and the Fermanagh captain today is Mark Little'. May just have been because he was the only Lisnaskea man on the team at their ground on the day. Wouldn't have thought he was captain material, great player on his day but he seems fairly quiet and withdrawn at times.
I didn't get to the match as I've been struggling with the flu but I was pleased to hear of the win. To put 1-18 on the scoreboard is impressive regardless of how poor St. Mary's were. In 2007 Fermanagh had bags of possession but couldn't turn it into scores. Hopefully today is a sign of positive things to come this year.
It looks like Malachy is going to try and use Liam McBarron at full forward. It hasn't really worked before but I see he got 2 points today. What were your impressions Exiled?
Quote from: FermPundit on January 06, 2008, 09:51:47 PM
I didn't get to the match as I've been struggling with the flu but I was pleased to hear of the win. To put 1-18 on the scoreboard is impressive regardless of how poor St. Mary's were. In 2007 Fermanagh had bags of possession but couldn't turn it into scores. Hopefully today is a sign of positive things to come this year.
It looks like Malachy is going to try and use Liam McBarron at full forward. It hasn't really worked before but I see he got 2 points today. What were your impressions Exiled?
No harm to Liam but i'd like to see Stevie Maguire in there, and O'Rourke hasn't given up hope of persuading him back. What other newcomers were on the panel today?
McBarron was McBarron, a legend in his own right but not of a good enough quality to bother any decent inter-county full-back. Still good enough option as a spoiler at midfield to "cla" about as only he knows. Have tonnes of respect for the man and his dedication and desire.
These rumours about Maguire never seem to go away but I've never read/seen/heard anything to suggest he will ever even think about returning. After the county final he said he was leaving the county to the younger generation and he would not return.
Would love to see him back, but it seems like wishful thinking at this stage. He must be touching 30 now?
Aye Stevie must be 30 at this stage. Strange that he doesn't seem interested in coming back, he was excellent in 2004. I know work seems to be the big issue so doesn't look like he'll be coming back at this stage.
Another encouraging result tonight, allbeit over a makeshift Armagh side. 1-11 to 0-10.
Know most of line up, Chris Breen, Declan Campbell, Shane McDermott, ??, Raymie Johnston, Shane Lyons, Shane Goan, James Sherry, Ciaran Boyle, Ryan Keenan, Shaun Doherty, Ciaran McElroy, Ronan McCabe, Liam McBarron, Pat Cadden.
Apparently McElroy, Lyons, Cadden, Johnston were all good.
Very experimental after all, very positive start for the new manager but hope we don't get that carried away. Just build up a positive spirit for the League and Championship and get used to winning games for a change.
Apparently the Derry game on Sunday has been changed to Maghera.
Declan O'Reilly is your missing man I think Exiled. I hear Pat Cadden was the best player on the field by a mile. I always thought he was a decent enough club player but I wasn't sure if he'd make the grade at inter county level. It looks like it'll be very competitive for places in the squad which is excellent to see. Fermanagh have scored 2-29 in the last two games. When was the last time this was achieved?
Yep, I heard the game has been moved to Maghera. I'll hopefully be able to get to it at the weekend
Fermanagh scorers
Pat Cadden 0-04
Ronan McCabe 0-02
Shaun Doherty 0-02
Ciaran McElroy 0-02
Liam McBarron 1-0
Not sure who got the other point but I think it was Kieran Leonard
I'll be there anyway. Seen quite a bit of Pat Cadden, usually running after him, always very stylish and probably more suited to inter-county action than club if that makes sense. Not really a grinder or a battler but a very talented player with a great left foot.
So far so good
Always like Cadden as a footballer, but think he doesn't contribute enough from open play. There will be fierce competition for places now. Good to see Ronan McCabe back, he's been a class footballer for the last ten years, even if his powers wained a bit at club level in the last few seasons. I dunno about yous boys, but I've a great feeling about this season. There is a real buzz about it, and it's only the McKenna Cup.
After the start we made to 2007 its pleasing to get 2 victories under our belt even though it's the only the McKenna Cup. It looks like Malachy O'Rourke is staying to instill a bit of confidence in the boys. We'll not get too carried away but it's good start nevertheless
Lads, apparently Enniskillen have appointed Dom Corrigan as Manager. Anyone confirm?
i hear ronan gallagher is trying to get cj mc gourty to play for fermanagh. they are st galls team mates and mc gourty is not happy with the antrim set up. also i hear that his family use to live in fermanagh. i hear this rumours off a fermanagh man any truth in the rumours. good start big win confidence boost beating armagh
Quote from: tintin25 on January 10, 2008, 10:24:31 AM
Lads, apparently Enniskillen have appointed Dom Corrigan as Manager. Anyone confirm?
I don't think it's true but Im not 100% sure. Where did you this?
Quote from: there is time yet on January 11, 2008, 01:01:31 PM
i hear ronan gallagher is trying to get cj mc gourty to play for fermanagh. they are st galls team mates and mc gourty is not happy with the antrim set up. also i hear that his family use to live in fermanagh. i hear this rumours off a fermanagh man any truth in the rumours. good start big win confidence boost beating armagh
This is bound to be rubbish??
McGourty to Fermanagh?? I think not.
Dom for the Gaels. I would be shocked
Good start this year for the senior team. Seems to be unearthing a few new faces.
Tommorrow will be a better yardstick as to where we really are because there will be a
bit at stake in this game as the winners will go into the semi's.
Hope that O'Rourke puts out the spine of his first team with those who have impressed given a chance. Is the panel cut at the end of the McKenna cup??
My only concern is who is going to fill in a full back while Owens is out injured.
Quote from: there is time yet on January 11, 2008, 01:01:31 PM
i hear ronan gallagher is trying to get cj mc gourty to play for fermanagh. they are st galls team mates and mc gourty is not happy with the antrim set up. also i hear that his family use to live in fermanagh. i hear this rumours off a fermanagh man any truth in the rumours. good start big win confidence boost beating armagh
Don't think CJ would be eligible to play for Fermanagh.
Many of yous heading to Maghera today? I'm hopinh Q101.2FM will be doing it live or having regular updates. Is there any radio stations in south Derry that will be covering it?
Fermanagh line up for todays game:
Ronan Gallagher
Paul Johnston
Paddy Mohan
Niall Leonard
Cathal McCaffrey
Shane Lyons
Barry Mulrone
Marty McGrath
James Sherry
Niall Cassidy
Mattie Keenan
Niall Keenan
Ronan McCabe
Liam McBarron
Kieran Leonard
anyone hear updates of match or were to get updates. i from derry and dont no of any local radio stations..
Q101.2FM are live from Ballyshannon but have regular updates from Maghera.
ahrite cheers...just heard its 0-5 - 0-5 at half time
A very experimental lineout. Good to see boys getting a chance to impress before the NFL starts. On the club front I think it's pretty much confirmed that Dom is the new Enniskillen manager.
A very inexperienced Fermanagh side out today which is great to see. The McKenna cup is all about giving younger guys an opportunity to show what they can do at this level.
Same old story today, scores far too hard to come by. Defence coped well but Sherry, who started very well, was a big loss after injury after 20 odd minutes. Here goes:
Ronan Gallagher: did well, very vocal, which was needed with Mohan tracking Bradley in front of him. Great penalty save, though a few dodgy kick-outs, which may have had more to do with his options. 8
Paul Johnston: Lasted the whole game. One of the players on trial around the fringe of the final 30. Gave away numerous frees including a few off the ball which resultged in simple scores. Will be lucky to survive cut. 5.5
Paddy Mohan: Very encouraging performance. Always on toes with Bradley and needed to be given the amount of ball coming in. Always goty a hand in and restricted him to one score from play though he did hit a few wides. 7.5
Niall Leonard: Did well in the corner keeping Devlin fairly quiet and scoreless from play. Will be another on fringe of panel. 6.5
Cathal McCaffrey: Decent debut but fairly quiet overall. O'Rourke would have expected more from his half back. 6
Shane Lyons: Held the defence together well and made a lot of crucial interceptions and took hte heavy hits. Came out with the ball well and will be a cert for final 30. 7.5
Barry Mulrone: Shaky start but never hid from the ball. Grew into the game and was always an option. Good chance of making the final squad but struggled on Wilkinson who came deep to secure space. 6.5
James Sherry: Took three great catches in opening fifteen minutes before injury in making the last. Looked like hamstring and had leg heavily strapped after the game. Was a big loss as Fermanagh failed to secure possession after his impressive 25 minutes. 7.5
Marty McGrath: Still struggling for fitness and glad to see O'Rourke giving him a few full games. Scored one brilliant 40 yard point but was on the fringes of the game for the most part. Still a certain starter for League and Championship. The question is who will partner him, Sherry or Murphy?. 7
Matthew Keenan: Sublime and ridiculous, scored a few outstanding frees in first half including a brilliant sideline ball, but hit a few frees in the second half at least 30 yards off target. Some good perceptive passing though and will make NFL squad. 7
Niall Keenan: Got through a lot of work but the game passed him by and will be lucky to make fnal squad. 6
Niall Cassidy: First chance to impress but only lasted 25 minutes. Seemed to hide behind man then foul on way out. Never an option and it was obvious he wouldn't last to half time even. Won't make squad. 5
Ronan McCabe: Showed well early on but faded as game wore on and was replaced, scored one free but should make final 30 after a few years away. 6
Liam McBarron: No lack of industry and effort but was well marshalled by Hinphey. Couldn't secure possession and offload, overcarrying a few times though quality of ball coming in was very poor. Good wrestling match with Hinphey near half time at least he won that. 6
Ciaran Leonard: need to impress and did. Always showed for the ball and scored excellent second half point, probably done enough to make last 30. 7
Subs
Mark Little (for Cassidy): On early and did what he does best. Picked up loads of ball coming deep and outpaced the Derry defence constantly. Stole in late on when he should have scored but drilled his shot just over crossbar when he should have fired low. 7.5
Ciaran Boyle (for Sherry): Struggled to make impact and was switched with McBarron in second half for a period. Another who could struggle to make squad. 5.5
Ciaran Smith (for McCaffrey): Came on at a time when game got stretched but wasted possession a few times. Constantly holding man and gave away easy free off the ball and got booked after both linesmen mentioned him to referee, will struggle to make squad. 5
Paul Ward (for McCabe): Had little time to impress but has probably done enough to make it into final 30. 6
Good to see O'Rourke use all the squad and give them a chance. Still have a small chance of making semis which would be a bonus to prepare for League. Seen Shaun Doherty Eamon Maguire Mark Murphy Pat Cadden and Shane McDermott togged out but not in dug-out. Probably guaranteed squad places already.
Need to get on the phone to Stevie Maguire!!
Charlie Mulgrew was always criticised for not giving all players an opportunity on the senior squad but the same can not be said of Malachy O'Rourke. I can't think of one player that should have got a trail and didn't. He has looked everywhere within the county for new players and I applaud him for doing this. Of the first 15 that lined out today how many would you include in your first choice chamionship side? Only Martin McGrath and James Sherry would be guaranteed starters IMO. All these youngs lads have tasted competitive football and this can only benefit Fermanagh football long term.
With regards the game today we have always known that Fermanagh have a very strong defence. Our main problem has always been getting scores. Whilst we only scored 8 points today I wouldn't be too concerned. When our strongest forward line has been selected there appears to be an improvement in our ability to turn possession into scores. To score 2-37 in the 3 McKenna cup games emphasises this point.
Whilst Liam McBarron has battled well at full foward I don't think this will be a long term solution. Yes, Stevie Maguire is the man we would love to see back in the number 14 jersey but if he doesn't make himself available do we have another viable option on the edge of the square??
Overall this has been a positive McKenna campaign and there appears to be a bit of buzz among the Fermanagh squad and supporters alike. Hopefully Malachy O'Rourke will get the lads focused in training and get them geared up for a hard NFL campaign in what will be a very hard and competitive division 3.
2008 has started reasonable well. Lets hope we can build on this momentum and maybe enjoy a wee bit of success this season.
Excellent reporting ExiledGael, it's great for those of us not able to get to the games. Looks like it's the same old for Fermanagh, having a total inability to score from play. But as the lads have said that was a very young inexperienced side out there yesterday, maybe 4/5 of them would make the championship XV. So with the McKenna cup finished (will almost anyway), any ideas as to who is going to survive O'Rourke's cull? We have to add Shane McCabe and Clucker to the championship mix as well. Still I think selecting our best XV won't be that difficult.
taken from www.impartialreporter.com (http://www.impartialreporter.com)
QuoteRyan McCluskey has given Fermanagh manager Malachy O'Rourke a major boost ahead of the National League campaign by committing to the Fermanagh cause for the remainder of the year.
McCluskey has quit Irish Premier League side Dungannon Swifts to commit solely to Fermanagh, and the news is sure to be greatly received by management and supporters alike, especially after it was revealed that All Star defender Barry Owens has to undergo a minor heart operation.
The stylish Enniskillen Gaels defender walked away from the panel last year following a disagreement with then manager Charlie Mulgrew but the lure of representing Fermanagh again has proved too much for the player, who is guaranteed to play a key role for the side this year.
McCluskey, who has been unhappy with a number of things at Dungannon in recent months, informed Swifts' manager Harry Fay of his decision to return to gaelic football on Tuesday night, although he does hope to return to the Irish League next season with a number of clubs believed to be interested in recruiting him.
"I thought it was the right time to go back to Fermanagh. I have always stated that I love playing for Fermanagh and I'm delighted to be back involved. Malachy made it known to me from the start that he wanted me to be involved this year and I was very keen to comeback. The big appeal to me was the set up and structure that was in place this year. I've been very impressed with everything that Malachy is trying to do, the set up is very professional and I can't wait to get back in the jersey," said McCluskey.
And O'Rourke is delighted to have the highly rated player on board for the season.
"I said when I took the job that I wanted all the best players on board and Ryan definitely fits into that category. He is a quality player and I'm delighted that he has chosen to join the panel," commented O'Rourke.
McCluskey made his debut for Fermanagh back in 2001 under John Maughan and has been an integral part of team since having played under Dom Corrigan and Charlie Mulgrew. He turned in a series of quality performances during Fermanagh's run to the All Ireland semi-final in 2004.
A difference of opinion with Mulgrew saw the dual player leave the panel during the National League last year, and the player is delighted to see the back of 2007, a year he describes as "the worst of my life," after a number of personal difficulties including the death of his father, Oliver.
"There's no doubt that I'm glad to see 2007 finish, it was the worst year of my life. My father passed away after illness and it was a very difficult time for all the family. I was then in hospital with a heart scare which brought further worry and at the end of the year I was involved in a car crash from which I was lucky to come away with minor injuries," said Ryan.
He added: "I'm looking forward to this year with Fermanagh, and hopefully we can have some success. The season has started positively with a couple of wins in the McKenna Cup and if we can get the basics right and build some consistency then hopefully we can have a successful league campaign. There is a strong squad of players and there is no reason why we shouldn't be playing in a higher division, that would be the first aim for the season."
McCluskey is currently out with a hip injury but he is hopeful that he will be able to return for the start of the league.
"I'm due to receive a cortisone injection and that will hopefully clear things up for me without the need for an operation. I want to get the injuries cleared up and then hopefully force my way into Malachy's plans. I would be keen to be back for the first or second game of the league although I know I'm going to have to fight for my place because there is good competition for places within the squad," he said.
While the player will concentrate on Fermanagh for the remainder of the season, he is keen to return to the Irish League next season, although that is unlikely to be with Dungannon Swifts. Dungannon will retain McCluskey's registration but Fay has assured him that they will not stand in his way if another club comes in for him over the summer.
"As I've said, I'm going to concentrate on Fermanagh for the remainder of the year but I do want to go back to the Irish League next year. I think things have run their course at Dungannon, there has been a number of things that I've not been happy with at the club recently, but I would like to go back and test myself with another club next season if given the chance," he explained.
Great news for us, though wonder how serious the hip injury really is, doesn't sound good.
As for Barry Owens glad the county board released a statement calling for privacy for him and his family. The story was rife in Fermanagh for a month or two now. Hope the operation goes well and he can get back to full health.
Probably not right to expect a return this year especially given he's due to be married later in the year.
Quote from: ExiledGael on January 17, 2008, 07:10:31 PM
Great news for us, though wonder how serious the hip injury really is, doesn't sound good.
As for Barry Owens glad the county board released a statement calling for privacy for him and his family. The story was rife in Fermanagh for a month or two now. Hope the operation goes well and he can get back to full health.
Probably not right to expect a return this year especially given he's due to be married later in the year.
Great news about Clucker coming back, he's a classy player and probably one of the best defenders in Ulster on his day. As regards Owens, any surgery on your heart cannot be taken lightly and he should take plently of time out, but replacing him at full back will be a struggle. Anyone know when the league/championship panel will be announced?
Haven't heard about the panel but you could have a decent guess
Keepers: CHRIS BREEN, Fergal Murphy, Ronan Gallagher (dunno what's up with Tinney but to go from young player of the year to whatever he is now is a big let down)
Defence: NIALL BOGUE, SHANE GOAN, Shane McDermott, Raymie Johnston, SHANE LYONS, Paddy Mohan, Damien Kelly, TOM McELROY, Declan O'Reilly, RYAN McCLUSKEY, Barry Mulrone
Midfield: MARTY McGRATH, MARK MURPHY, JAMES SHERRY, Liam McBarron
Forwards: SHAUN DOHERTY, EAMON MAGUIRE, MARK LITTLE, Pat Cadden, Matthew Keenan, Paul Ward, Ciaran McElroy, Ryan Keenan
Still very defence heavy, as always. For me I would put Shane McDermott at full-back, unless the opposing full-forward is a pacy nimble player. He has a great presence and strength about him and has always done well there when moved back. No doubt Owens is a huge loss though. Our only player that would get on every team in the country.
Players capped up I would have in the first xv for Championship, with one of the midfielders at 11 or 14
Excellent news on clucker. If he's fit and well he'll add a bit of class and experience to the backline. I'm not sure about McDermott at full back . He's a good half back going forward but he has always been a little suspect at defending and man marking IMO. I think Paddy Mohan should be given a good run of games at full back. I have always been very impressed with him any time I have seen him play. He has been around club football for a while and I reckon he deserves his chance at this level.
I think Niall Tinney is in Scotland at the moment hence why he has been involved in the county set up so far this season.
I can't argue with that squad that you have named Exiled. I was thinking it's an awful shame Ryan Carson won't commit to Fermanagh. He'd be a useful fella to have in midfield or the edge of the square!
Carson's a big loss alright but he's recently accepted a job offer over in Luton area. Apparently he will only be home once every few eeeks so he is certainly out of the equation. Huge loss for Newtwonbutler for the year ahead too.
Agree McDermott is a loose marker at times but I often put that down to the centre half back position where the forward has so much space to work in and defenders are not man for man exactly. Suppose it will come down to horses for courses depending on the opposing attack.
Definitely would put McDermott at full back. I think you'll find that O'Rourke will play Clucker at centre half back, his best position in my opinion. But if he has to do a man marking job he'll be anywhere in the back six.
Do you see Shane Lyons getting a starting place? At least we have real competition for places there now, pity it wasn't like that up the field.
Think that Lyons should push for a start this year.
We have do have alot of quality defenders, its just up front the problems are.
This year i would say our starting 6 forwards for the league will be
Lyttle Doherty Keenan(M)
Maguire McBarron Ward/P Cadden
You would also have Tom Brewster and Ciaran O'Reilly to slot back in when fit depending on the performances of the above 6. So there will be an element of competition up there.
I feel Sean Doc could have a great year for Fermanagh this year.
Anybody give a list of who is actually managing the club teams in Fermanangh this year??
With everyone fit, this is the best 15 in my opinion
Chrissy Breen
Niall Bogue
Shane McDermott
Shane Goan
Tommy McElroy
Ryan McCluskey
Shane Lyons
James Sherry
Marty McGrath
Mark Little
Tom Brewster
Mattie Keenan
Eamon Maguire
Shaun Doherty
Paul Ward
That looks about right, though Mark Murphy will be the unfortunate one to lose his place. He's always performed well, some of our midfield will have to be options for the forward line ie Sherry/McBarron/Murphy
Murphy will be unlucky enough not to start, but he could play at centre half forward or in at full forward as well. I just think Sherry is more athletic and mobile. But the caveat is that Sherry always seems to be dogged with injury so Murphy could be at midfield a lot of the time. I'm concerned that the forward line is so small. Mattie Keenan and Paul Ward are talented but not the strongest. Pat Cadden similarly, is too similar to what we already have. We need someone in the Ger Cavlan mould at wing half forward but those players are thin on the ground in Fermanagh. All we seem to produce is nippy corner forwards. It must be that we're lacking something in the diet!
That's the difference between us and the sides challenging for titles and finals. There's not even any prospects coming through in that mould that I know of. Doherty will obviously bring that to the forward line but he alone is not enough.
Agree about Sherry, on his day he's our most talented player. he was great last week before his injury.
It's a pity he couldn't persuade his clubmate Seamus Quigley to sort his head out and stick at the football. Certain county player with strength who can score from long range, but he's a lost cause by now.
What's the story with McGurn? A name constantly thrown up by some, but no manager ever seems to believe in him? I've seen him being very ordinary at club level though.
As regards McGurn, I believe he's piled on a few pounds in the close season. He's a good player but not very mobile. Quigley is a class player. I stood watching him destroy Enniskillen in Roslea a few years ago when he was only around 17. Apparently he can take it or leave it with the football and is fond of the sauce from all accounts. i remember him putting over sideline balls in Clones, playing for the minors against Armagh. I've never seen someone so young who could boot a ball that distance.
In my opinion Johnny McGurn isn't county standard. He's a decent enough player at club level and that's it. I thought I heard a few months back that Seamus Quigley was going back training to Roslea and was going to give this season 100% commitment. I could be completely wrong on this though.
I think we are just going to accept that we don't have any big strong mobile forwards. To my mind there is no point sticking big guys in the forward line just because of their size. We have what we have and it's up to management to get the most out of the players at hand. I don't think this has been the case the last few seasons when Mulgrew was in charge. The noises that I've been hearing from the county set up so far this year have been very positive. Apparently it is a very professional set up and approach from O'Rourke and his management team. With such a small pool of players it is all about utilising your lmitied resources. I don't think any of us will complain if Fermanagh struggle this year just as long as everyone is giving 100% commitment. As a supporter this is all you can ask.
Went to Omagh last night and have to say on reflection we did all right on very limited possession.
From the playing point of view i thought that D Reilly(Until he went of injured) and S Goan played very well. D Kelly had a good game and up front it was good to see M Lyttle back. He ran all night long and i really did feel sorry for the derry WHB.
Our forward line problems are well documented. But what worried me was CHB.
Felt that we were very naive by leaving Paddy Mohan completely isolated on Paddy Bradley. Any back in the country would have struggled and i actually think he did all right considering the lack of help he received.
We need a better reader of the game at CHB who can anticipate the breaking ball, and give good quality ball into the forwards. Felt that we could have given Shane Lyons another run there to see how he could have went in a more competitive game.
Cadden showed well last night but his finishing was poor. At least he was getting himself in the right positions and a bit more experience of playing at this level will help
Here's my rant for what it's worth . Attended the game last night and have to say the same old failings came back to haunt us. We simply cannot score from anything over 30-yards out. Great work up to there but it's naturally too tight at that point and we get turned over constantly.
Derry scored their entire total from play and simply tagged on scores far easier than us. We had a number of encouraging performances and had at least 50% of the ball but could not convert that into scores. Mohan was again good on Bradley but it's suicide to leave Bradley one on one with anybody.
We responded brilliantly after the half, though still don't know how the ball broke to Doc for the goal. After that we were really buzzing but the game changed in a minute after that.
After we got ourselves in front Derry drew level and we bulit up a decent attack. Ball was worked the entire length of the field and eventually found Matty Keenan on the 21 about half way to the sideline on his good left side, his effort fell woefully short and the 'keeper picked it up and the next time the ball went out of play it was in our net. Just no excuse and a huge swing in the game. Maguire and Little were both guilty of this weak shooting aswell. Guessing the McBarron experiment has been scrapped??
Chris Breen: Could do little with either goal, looked assured and his kick-outs were huge, though lacked any variation. Will be a fight on for the No 1 jersey. 6.5
Declan O'Reilly: Pretty solid before he went off apparently struggling with injury. Certain for the NFL squad but probably better in the half-back line, always a decent passer of the ball. 6.5
Paddy Mohan: Done as well as anybody could on Bradley but must be sick of the sight of him. He only needs a yard on either foot. Definitely a good option at full-back and has certainly earned his squad place at least. 6
Shane Goan: Was picking up Collie Devlin early on and he really struggled I thought. Good coming forward and always an option coming out but needed to be tighter on who I thought was MOTM. 6
Tommy McElroy: Wasn't given very long and didn't feature much in his 25 odd minutes. Still should make squad but will have a battle to start. 5.5
Shane McDermott: Distribution at times was awful but his strength was crucial on an awful night for football. Took and threw out the hits but was marking 'loose' at best. 6.5
Damien Kelly: Not ideal conditions for him but did well and pushed forward for a good point. Another on the fringe of the first 15. 6.5
Mark Murphy: Made one good catch in the second half but the game totally passed him by. The conditions meant it was always going to be messy at midfield with very few clean catches. Would have been better used in full-forward for a while. 5
Marty McGrath: Growing in strength and stamina again but didn't get involved as much as you'd like to see him. Showed flashes of his old form though and just needs to keep playing full games. 6.5
Mark Little: Shocking turn of pace even on this ground but just doesn't convert possession into scores enough. Unmarkable at times and drifts everywhere but needs to get a few scores from play. 7
Shaun Doherty: Totally fluffed a few early frees but was always an option for a pass and was rewarded with a ball just landing at his feet in front of goal. Cartain starter for the year just needs to grow in confidence and read the ball off the smaller men. 7
Ciaran McElroy: Works hard and picks up a lot of ball but seems unsure under pressure and gets turned over. Will make squad but not final team. 6
Eamon Maguire: Amazing fitness levels, seen him taking a free out from our own 14 yard line at one stage and picks up tonnes of possession but again doesn't get scores. Guilty of poor shooting, arguably should have had 1-4, but the conditions were awful for his game. 7
Matty Keenan: Didn't do enough from open play or from frees, hopefully he can push on but he should have done better on Hinphey who was unsure of himself at full-back, few bad misses. 6
Pat Cadden: Struggled through the game, but most would with McGuckin chasing them. One especially bad miss on his right foot bearing down on goal in second half summed up Fermanagh. 6
Subs: Raymond Johnston: Great player to have in squad and always gives his all. Done well on Wilkinson with one excellent dispossession. Probably frontrunner for half-back slot by now. 7
Peter Sherry: Was easily turned in his first minute on pitch for Devlin's goal but done well thereafter, another on fringe of final team. 6.5
Ciaran Boyle: Struggled at full-forward to secure any ball, could be fortunate to survive the cut.
Ryan Keenan: Looks slightly unfit but did get on scoresheet at least. Proven finisher but if he'd put as much effort into his attacking game as he does fighting with opposition marker he'd be some player. Always niggling away. 6.5
Barry Mulrone: Not on very long but made a few good runs in possession and could force his way into team. Never shys away from ball and should suit the summer sod, good find. 7
I have to agree that the same problems from the past few seasons still exist. Plenty of possession but the inability to take scores, especially at crucial times of the game. Is there anything more annoying than watching a guy kick a ball into the keepers arms from 14 yards?? Fair enough if he kicks it wide but dropping it short is criminal.
Overall I thought last night was a decent enough performance given the conditions. The soft ground meant there was no bounce on the ball which didn't suit the small Fermanagh forwards. When they did get possession there was usually 3 or 4 defenders surrounding them. One thing that pived me last night was the short passing in front of goal. Not only were some players avoiding responsibility to shoot but they were giving other players hospital passes as well.
I thought Shane Goan was very impressive last night. Surely he must be one of the best corner backs in Ulster at present. Paddy Mohan battled hard at full back but he lacks pace and he was always constantly left exposed by the Fermanagh half back line. If Shane McDermott isn't going to man mark then he has to sit in front of the full back and offer some protection. In midfield I thought Marty got through a huge amount of work but where was Womble?? The game passed him by. If James Sherry is fit he has to start in my opinion.
Up front the lads tried hard but time and time again they refused shoot and insisted on the short passing game. This tactic really annoyed under Mulgrew and I think O'Rourke needs to try remove this from the team if we're to make any progress this year. Shaun Doherty showed well last night but I was very impressed to see him being taken off. Eamon Maguire had a quiet game but he's a quality player and he'll show it when the weather improves.
Overall I don't think O'Rourke will be annoyed to have not made the final as expectations have not risen. When we look back at the McKenna cup I don't think we have unearthed any new talent with possibly young Mulrone the exception. If you put the likes of Clucker and Tom Brew into the mix I need we have the bones of a decent enough side just as long as the management get the tactics right. Let's hope that the weather stays dry during the NFL or we might really struggle.
The previous posters seemed to have summed up the game pretty well. Fermanagh played ok, but the same old problems came back to haunt us, with the forwards over playing the ball.
The full back line played well enough, but got little protection from the half back line, which was unable to told the derry forwards. However in general this is not a problem for fermanagh, as they will come good, defense is not the issue, except for the centre half position, which is a big worry. Frog does not seem to have the legs for it anymore. If clucker was fit, he would be my choice
Marty was good in the middle, however womble had a poorer game.
The forwards lacks size as usual, with only "little" providing any "go forward", however in saying that, we did create 3/4 goal chances. Free taking is also a major issue, too many were missed last night if we are to win many games. 1 worrying thing is the lack of forwards left on the fermanagh squad, apart from who played last night, i think only Mcbarron and Ward remain on squad.
Fermanagh had a full training session the night before the game as well, so this might go some way to explaining what seem to be a few tired displays.
My fermanagh team for 1st round of league would be (assuming clucker, brew and owens injured).
Breen
Goan
Mohan
Bogue (d o'really unlucky)
McElroy
Lyons
Kelly
McGrath
Sherry
Little
Doc
Matty
Maguire
McBarron
Ward
I would even be tempted to try Pete sherry or mulrone in half forward line.
Dom Corrigan is officially the new Gaels manager. On the bbc ni website this morning.
The full Fermanagh NFL squad is:
Goalkeepers: C Breen (Enniskillen), R Gallagher (St Gall's), F Murphy (Irvinestown)
Defenders: S McDermott (St Patrick's), D Campbell (Tempo), P Sherry (Roslea), R Johnston (Newtownbutler), N Leonard (Belcoo), S Lyons (Erne Gaels), P Johnston (Newtownbutler), T McElroy (Brookeborough), D O'Reilly (Teemore), H Brady (Teemore), N Bogue (Kinawley), R McCluskey (Enniskillen), B Mulrone (Devenish), S Goan (Irvinestown), P Mohan (Brookeborough), D Kelly (Tempo)
Midfielders: M Murphy (Derrylin), J Sherry (Roslea), M McGrath (St Joseph's), C Boyle (Brookeborough)
Forwards: M Little (Lisnaskea), N Keenan (Enniskillen), S Doherty (Kinawley), T Brewster (Enniskillen), Ryan Keenan (Tempo), M Keenan (Enniskillen), E Maguire (St Patrick's), C McElroy (Ballinascreen), P Ward (Derrygonnelly), P Cadden (St Patrick's), L McBarron (Kilmacud)
I take it that Owens will be added when he recovers from injury.
The squad really sums up Fermanagh's problems. Loads of defenders, not a lot of forwards
Quote from: FermGael on January 25, 2008, 10:05:55 AM
Dom Corrigan is officially the new Gaels manager. On the bbc ni website this morning.
Good luck to Dom with the Gaels. There's loads of work to be done to rebuild the squad but there's plenty of young talent to work with. I think a long term plan is required if the Gaels are to get back to the dominance they enjoyed over the last decade or so. I don't think Dom will enjoy instant success but if given a few seasons implement a plan Enniskillen have every chance of achieving success.
Not much NFL build-up here lads. Big game for us on Sunday, really important to get two points and get off to a good start. It's going to be a tight division with a real panic to avoid the drop. A loss to start would have us on the back foot, but it's a tough place to go as Leitrim proved against Donegal last year in the Championship. A narrow win would do nicely, I see the bookies have us 8/11 on.
As for the team few surprises in there but there could be slight injury problems we don't know about. Interesting that Gallagher starts ahead of Breen, that's probably his position to lose now, he'll need to be on his toes. No real surprises in the back line, maybe Tommy McElroy and Shane Lyons a bit unlucky, but I would go with Frog myself for his strength and experience.
Good to see James Sherry fit again and in at midfield, he was very impressive there against a big Derry midfield in Maghera before his injury.
Surprising that Womble has been thrown in at half forward but it will be interesting to see how he fares there. Mark Little must have a knock, probably our most dangerous forward.
Matty Keenan will probably be annoyed not to get a start but he was very hit and miss in the McKenna Cup, Pat Cadden looks a better reliable option from frees so he gets his chance. Needs to impress more from play to keep the shirt.
McBarron deserves a chance in the NFL. Can't see it being the long term option but he could cause havoc in there messing about and the wee men could feed off that, here's hoping anyway.
We need the points here, Fermanagh by four.
Ronan Gallagher; Shane Goan, Paddy Mohan, Niall Bogue; Damien Kelly, Shane McDermott, Peter Sherry; Marty McGrath, James Sherry; Ciaran McElroy, Shaun Doherty, Mark Murphy; Pat Cadden, Liam McBarron, Eamon Maguire.
A bit surprised with that line up to be honest. It wouldn't have been the team that I would put out for sure. I can't see why Shane McDermott is playing at CHB. He left Paddy Mohan exposed in the match against Derry last week. I hope he is under strict instructions to hold his position. Great to see James Sherry back in midfield with Marty. The best partnership we have IMO. I'm extremely worried about that half forward line. Talk about a lack of pace. If Eamon Maguire isn't on fire on Sunday I can't see us getting many scores, I hope Im wrong though. I would have thought Paul Ward deserved a starting place as well. Boiler must be carrying an injury as surely has to start if fit. Why have McBarron and Murphy in the forward line? Surely they are too similiar a player. They're not there for their scoring ability anyway. 2 points is essential on Sunday and I'm not overly impressed with this starting 15 :-\
Right i need to get this of my chest.
How in the name of God is McDermott still playing CHB. He does not mark his man or hold his position. Tommy McElroy and Lyons most both feel hard done because they have played well this year so far and would both be far better options at CHB. He would need to show a serious improvement on Sunday. I hope he proves me wrong
Playing Womble, McBarron and Doherty means that fermanagh will be a bit more physical which is exactly what we are going to need in Carrick on Sunday. The weather forecasts are not good so big men will be needed. We still have to small and quick corner forwards so hopefully they can expose the space. Give us a few good options from kickouts and hopefully Cadden will take more of the chances he missed the last day.
Matty Keenan must feel hard done by but Ciaran McElroy has been around the county panel for a few years and it is time he was given a fair run in his more natural position.
I think the team for Sunday is reasonably solid. Just the one new face in Cadden but I don't think we can afford to experiment too much in this Division. Would have some doubts over McElroy and Mohan in the big games. Every match will be competitive and all sides will fear the drop to the Tommy Murphy which would be a dark day if that ever happened to us, so we really can't afford to be complacent.
I am very disappointed with the side picked. Shane has given alot of service to Fermanagh but I think his time is up, with shane lyons now being the much better option, Tommy McElroy can also count himself very unlucky not to be picked. The midfield is our best duo, but I think we are going to have big problems in the half forward line. Ciaran McElroy has never impressed for Fermanagh and womble is no half forward, Is Mark Little injured??
Full Forward is prob as good as we have, but who will be taking frees on sunday???/
I have to say lads that I'm a bit disappointed with this line up for tomorrows game. Definitely not the best team O'Rourke could have selected. McDermott has consistently proved that he's not a centre half back. Shane Lyons is the best man for this position. As regards the forwards, where do you start? Having Mark Murphy, Shaun Doc and McBarron in there, it's not you would describe as a mobile attack. Boiler must be injured and Paul Ward is extremely unlucky not to have started. The McKenna cup was the time for the experimenting. Big risk not going with the tried and tested tomorrow.
I read on hoganstand that Darren Graham had a place on the Fermanagh squad,
Quote from: thejuice on February 02, 2008, 09:57:57 PM
I read on hoganstand that Darren Graham had a place on the Fermanagh squad,
Darren Graham is on the Fermanagh senior hurling panel and has been for the past number of seasons.
draw for the championship apparently
2008 FERMANAGH SENIOR & INTERMEDIATE
FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS
SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIP
PRELIMINARY ROUND:
NEWTOWNBUTLER v. ENNISKILLEN
ST PATRICKS v. TEEMORE
DEVENISH v. TEMPO
KINAWLEY v. DERRYGONNELLY
ROUND 1:
NEWTOWNBULTER/ENNISKILLEN v. ST PATRICKS/TEEMORE
LISNASKEA v. BELCOO
DEVENISH/TEMPO v. ROSLEA
KINAWLEY/DERRYGONNELLY v. IRVINESTOWN
INTERMEDIATE CHAMPIONSHIP:
PRELIMINARY ROUND
EDERNEY v. BROOKEBORO
WINNERS OF ABOVE WILL PLAY AUGHADRUMSEE in SEMI-FINAL
IN THE 2nd SEMI-FINAL ERNE GAELS v. DERRYLIN
Seem that Dom will have his hands full. Playing Newtown in the PRELIMINARY ROUND and then the winners of St Pat's and Teemore.
It soes not get any tougher than that
Tough for Dom indeed. Very lob-sided draw to be honest. You would have to rank Newtown, Teemore, Belcoo and Enniskillen in the top four/five in the county and they all meet in one half of the draw. Wide open for a dark horse, teams like Roslea, or Tempo even if they can build on their promise, will fancy their chances.
Very difficult draw for the Gaels but it'll be a great challenge for Dom especiailly in his first year in charge. The majority of the senior clubs are of a similar standard in Division one and everyone could beat everyone else. I suppose given the draw a lot of pressure might be taken off the Gaels with no one expecting them to beat Newtown in the first round. The main problem with Enniskillen in the past has been their care free approach to the league. If they take the league seriously and start to build up a winning mentality then I reckon they could be dark horses for the championship. Exiled. did you say that Ryan Carson has moved to England?
Looking at the intermediate draw, the two strongest sides Brookeboro and St. Josephs are paired together. It's a hard one to call given that the season hasn't started yet but going on previous form I'd expect Boro to win this one.
He accepted a job over there a few months back and the last I heard he would be home maybe once a month at best. Wouldn't be surprised if he lined out for the Championship but he certainly won't be the force he was given he won't be training for months on end. Huge loss to Newtown.
Anybody hear how the fermanagh hurlers done today? Even better, does anyone have a report??
They beat Monaghan by five points. Good result but never heard anthing more.
Seen a brief mention somewhere of a Kevin McGarry scoring for Down today, though they drew with Carlow.
Is that our very own?
I've added a new Live Scores feature to GAA Radio. If you're at any Fermanagh club games it'd be good if you could text score updates to 447624804328. This service is free for everyone to view at http://www.gaaradio.com/scores/liveScores.jsp . Thanks.
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QuoteFermanagh footballers get new dates
20 February 2008
Unlike Cork, the weather-jinxed footballers of Fermanagh have been given new dates for their two postponed NFL matches.
Amazingly, both Erne County Division Three games to date have been foiled by the weather - one by rain, the other by fog.
The home match against Limerick has been re-fixed for Saturday March 22 at Lisnaskea. And the away clash with neighbours Leitrim, which was supposed to be Fermanagh's opener, goes ahead in Carrick-on-Shannon on March 9.
What should have been Fermanagh's third-round outing - away to Longford - will now serve as their opener on March 2. Weather permitting, of course... Pessimists in the midlands are bracing themselves for a downpour of frogs...
Very quiet this last while here lads.
Any news from the senior set up??
Clucker and Brewster any closer to full fitness??
Haven't heard anything in a while alright. They should both be ready for the Longford game though, judging by the reports last week.
Did anyone see the scandal of the 'Fermanagh GAA star' in today's Sunday Life? Front page for Christ's sake.
Quote from: ExiledGael on February 24, 2008, 05:30:44 PM
Haven't heard anything in a while alright. They should both be ready for the Longford game though, judging by the reports last week.
Did anyone see the scandal of the 'Fermanagh GAA star' in today's Sunday Life? Front page for Christ's sake.
I'm only after reading it there ExiledGael. Hardly a very newsworthy story. It's been quiet on here alright, but it hasn't been helped with our first two games being postponed. Hope Clucker and Tom Brew are fit for the Longford game. Fermanagh are a better team with both players, especially McCluskey who should start at centre half back if O'Rourke has any sense.
Havent seen anything on the board about the Graham video on the board.
He isnt a happy camper :D
The 'after the darren Graham affair is settled' thread did spring up yesterday. He's some boy.
I was in Aughaloo on Sunday for the Cormac McAn, Sydney Vs Aiden McA, Boston commemorative game and even though it wasn't played in that highly competitive mode there where a lot of current county & past county players on show.
Have to say that Ryan McCluskey looks in great shape, he was just tipping about but was very controlled in everything he done. Definitely a big boost for you fermanagh boys to have him back this year. McCluskey centre half back and Owns full back makes for a solid defensive spine if both are available although over this past couple of seasons defence has never really been the problem as they tend to concede very little. Getting scores themselves is the problem. Mark Little also played on Sunday, very good player also but tends to get a little deep for my liking. I would like to see him get up and support the full forward line more because if you had a good ball winner in around the middle of the square, Little could do a lot of damage coming from those deep positions.
Glad to hear McCluskey is back in action. The man's a class footballer and would get on most teams in the country. Little and Maguire both have that habit, don't know whether that's their natural game or something that's been driven into them with the county in recent years.
Heard the senior county team beat Cavan by 5/6 points at the weekend too, though didn't hear any reports. Would imagine they're bursting to get into a competitive game at this stage. Very tricky opener for us now in Longford, but hopeful that hunger could get us the points.
Yep, its a tricky tie alright this weekend. I was looking at the fixtures today and I think we play all 7 NFL games in a row without a weekend off, starting this Sunday against Longford through to the last game against Down in the middle of April. It'll test the fitness of the team bu tI hope we can stay relatively injury free as we don't have much strength in depth, especially in the foward line.
Any match reports men, who played well???
I hear it was a bad preformance on sunday, who played well??
I suppose winning while playing badly is a good sign :)
The first half was one of the worse performances I have seen from a Fermanagh side in a very long time. They struggled to get to the pace of the game and made numerous mistakes. Marty McGrath getting sent off strangely some how seemed to spark new life into the team. Although 4 points down at half time I still thought we could win the game especially with the advantage of the wind in the second half. The second period got off to a terrible start with Leitrim getting a goal within the first 5 mins. 8 points down at this stage you would think the game was over but the fact that womble got the goal straight away kicked start the revival. As the game went on Fermanagh grew in confidence whilst Leitrim just seemed to stop. Malachy O'Rourke deserves credit for making the right calls on the sideline. The introduction of Tommy McElroy and Paul Ward brought the required energy and pace to the attack.
Overall it wasn't a very good performance. Stronger sides would have put Fermanagh away in the first half. In saying this I suppose you must give the team credit for showing good character to come back from 8 points down to the win by 4. I thought Mark Murphy was man of the match. He took the responsibility when Marty was sent off and some of his high fielding was outstanding. Fergal Murphy was solid in goals whilst Mattie Keenan continues to impress in the forward line. Eamon Maguire was a big loss yesterday but if you put himself, Tom Brew, Ciaran O'Reilly and Shaun Doc into the mix it we have the bones of a reasonabe side.
So Louth up next this Sunday. Marty McGrath will be a big loss for the next 4 weeks especially given the injuries to James Sherry and Liam McBarron. I honestly don't know who will partner Womble in centre field in the next few games. The only person I can think of his Ciaran Boyle. Is there anyone else, Niall Keenan perhaps?
Don't think James Sherry is too far away from fitness, who do we meet this week?
Suppose Frog could go there to do the dirty/heavy work. Womble has a great pair of hands, great result to come back from where we were, but on the other hand how the hell did we get into that situation in the first place.
Why hasn't Doherty been featuring? Probably our best player during the McKenna Cup, has to be injured.
First decent report from last week I've seen - from Impartial.
Leitrim 2-09
Fermanagh 3-10
Fermanagh made it two wins out of two in National Football League Division Three on Sunday as they fought back from eight points down to see off the challenge of Leitrim in Carrick-on-Shannon on Sunday.
Goals either side of the interval from Leitrim's Declan Maxwell and Emlyn Mulligan had put the home side into a 2-06 to 0-04 advantage, and at that stage an out of sorts Fermanagh looked as if they were on their way to a defeat.
However, Mark Murphy crashed a shot to the back of the net a minute after Leitrim had scored their second goal and from that Malachy O'Rourke's side started to grow in confidence.
The impressive Matthew Keenan clinically tucked away a second Fermanagh goal to level proceedings at 2-06 apiece, and when substitutes Tommy McElroy, who made a sizeable contribution on his introduction with two super points, and Paul Ward fired over Fermanagh moved ahead for the first time in the game.
Indeed Leitrim looked to be dead and buried following the dismissal of half back Shane Foley for a second booking, following teammate Michael Duignan and Fermanagh captain Marty McGrath who had been given their marching orders in the first half after a 31st minute melee.
However, the home side showed plenty of spirit to keep in touch and a Mulligan free left only a point dividing the sides in injury time. Fermanagh though secured the victory deep into added on time when Pat Cadden finished to the net from close range to leave four points separating the sides at the conclusion.
In the opening game against Longford, Fermanagh had come out all guns blazing as they raced into a commanding lead but it was the opposite on Sunday as they made a number of uncharacteristic errors and struggled to get into their stride.
Fermanagh lost Liam McBarron to a hamstring injury seven minutes into the contest with Jonathan McGurn replacing him, but it was Leitrim, backed by a strong breeze, who made the more positive start and they registered the game's first score after 10 minutes, Mulligan clipping over a free.
With relegation looming large on the horizon following two defeats from their opening two games Leitrim showed greater urgency and hunger, picking up breaks and being first to the ball in many areas, and three further points, two fine efforts from Maxwell and a point from Michael Foley, pushed them into a deserved 0-04 to 0-00 lead.
Fermanagh finally got off the mark through a Mattie Keenan free but it was Leitrim who remained on top and it took a terrific Fergal Murphy save to deny Maxwell a goal.
Michael Foley and McGrath traded points as Fermanagh looked to have weathered the storm, but then came the double sending off as McGrath and Duignan were shown straight red cards by referee Robbie O'Donnell after blows were exchanged.
Mark Little pulled Fermanagh back to within two points when he clipped over the free when play was resumed but the game seemed to swing in Leitrim's favour when Mark Murphy cheaply gave the ball away in his own defence with Colin Regan and Donal Brennan involved for Maxwell to finish to the net.
Fermanagh replied with a point in added on time from Mattie Keenan, but it was Leitrim who were in the driving position at the break, leading 1-06 to 0-04.
And that position was strengthened in the first couple of minutes of the second half as Mulligan tagged on 1-01.
The corner forward converted a free before getting on the end of a good move to finish to the net to make it 2-06 to 0-04.
The turning point, though, was probably that Fermanagh were able to hit back straight away to this set back with a goal of their own. Intelligent use of a free by Ryan Keenan saw him pick out Mark Murphy in space and he stepped inside a challenge before rifling his shot past goalkeeper Enda Lyons to the back of the net.
Mattie Keenan then launched over a great score to again leave four between the sides, 2-06 to 1-05.
With Fermanagh's tails up, Leitrim's task was made even tougher when they were reduced to 13 men as Shane Foley picked up his second booking for a foul on Little.
Little reduced the Leitrim lead to three points when he knocked over a free and Mattie Keenan drew the sides level when he collected an instinctive pass from Cadden to burst through on goal and coolly curl the ball around Lyons to the net.
The energetic Tommy McElroy, who had been introduced for Johnston, fired over a splendid point after exchanging passes with Little, and Paul Ward then put two between the sides with 15 to go when he capitalised on a poor kickout by Lyons to lob over.
Just when it looked as if Fermanagh would possibly run away with the game, the home side came back into it and points from Mulligan and Foley had the sides back on level terms, however it was the 14 men of Fermanagh who were to prevail.
Tommy McElroy notched his second point of the game and Keenan rattled over a long range free to make it 2-10 to 2-08 with two minutes left.
Mulligan gave Leitrim hope when he tapped over a free but the final say of the game went to the away side as Keenan latched onto a direct ball from Ciaran McElroy before teeing up Cadden, who made no mistake in finding the net from close range to secure the victory.
Leitrim: E. Lyons; D. Reynolds, J McKeon, M McGuiness; G. Reynolds, B McWeeney, S. Foley; G McCloskey, M. Duignan; C. Regan, D. Maxwell (1-02), M. Foley (0-03); C. Duignan, D. Brennan, E. Mulligan(1-04, 4f).
Subs: D. Duignan for C. Regan, P McGuinness for C.Duignan
Fermanagh: F. Murphy; S. Goan, S. Lyons, N. Bogue; D. Kelly, R McCluskey, R. Johnston; M McGrath (0-01), M. Murphy(1-00); C McElroy, M. Keenan(1-04,3f), M. Little(0-02,2f); P. Cadden (1-00), L McBarron, R. Keenan.
Subs: J McGurn for L McBarron, P. Ward (0-01) for R. Keenan, T McElroy (0-02) for R. Johnston, N. Keenan for J McGurn.
If we can add another two points against Louth in Skea on Sunday we'd be in great shape for a promotion push.
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Mark Sidebottom mentioned during the MacRory match yesterday the possibility of young Daryl Keenan joining up with the Fermanagh senior squad? If there any truth in this?
First I've heard of it. Why not I suppose, he'd be bigger than half the forwards we have, and braver judging by yesterday.
Hope a few of those forwards yesterday survive to senior county level, in patches they looked excellent.
I suppose you can argue if your old enough your good enough but with the current arguments over player burn out i'm not so sure. I know Raymie Gallagher and Paul Brewster made their intercounty debuts at a similar age so it might happen.
With regards Sunday's performance I thought Womble was outstanding. Some of his high fielding was superb. He really has come on as a player in the last few months. When Marty returns from suspension hopefully the two of them can build up a good midfield partnership. With the absence of Barry Owens the full back line is looking extremely shaky. Without his experience and leadership the corner backs are struggling. I'd probably try frog at full back to see if there is any improvement. Declan Reilly did well when he came on but I don't know he's comfortable at corner back. Peter Sherry probably derserves another good in one of the corners.
Up front there has been a slight improvment. Mattie Keenan has been an excellent addition but overall we're still struggling to get big scores. We really should have put Louth away by a bigger margin if it wasn't for our poor finishing. I still think we tend to over play the ball in the forward line. Players need to take on responsibility and shoot. Shaun Doc was quiet but I still maintain that his best position is full forward. I don't think he has the pace to get away from his marker in the half forward line. I would like Malachy to try Tommy McElroy in the half forward line. He scored 2 points from play against Leitrim and he plays in the forward line for Boro so he's well suited to this area of the field. We are lucky enough to have a number of guys who can come into the half back line instead.
In goals I think Chrissy Breen is our best choice. Only for his save at the end Louth would have won.
Sound assessment. Breen is number one in my eyes, the only slight being his reaction to opposing fans, but he's probably grown out of that. Outstanding shotstopper, we're really producing the keepers for some reason.
Would Bogue and Goan not still be the stand-out corner-backs? Think Frog's strength ,experience and ignorance in there would do the full-back line good.
Womble has been steadily improving since 04 and is now a certain starter in our best XV. Never seems to have any bother with injuries either thank God unlike Owens/McGrath/Sherry and has a great pair of hands.
Cadden looks to be a good addition with the frees too in the absence of Tom Brew on that side, but remains to be seen how he does long term from play.
Think the spine looks pretty good now through the team, with Doc and James Sherry in the attacking roles. Personally I'd like to see, fitness permitting: (and allowing for Owens' probable year out)
Breen
Bogue McDermott Goan
McElroy McCluskey Johnston
Murphy McGrath
Maguire J Sherry M Keenan
Little Doherty Cadden
Johnston could lose out to P Sherry. What's the latest on Tom Brewster/Ciaran O'Reilly/Barry Owens?
good win today!!
crusing that league
Well what can we say at this stage. Great results and record but I'm not convinced we're playing anywhere near well enough to trouble Monaghan in the Championship first round just yet. Last year we were out of our depth in Division One clearly.
To my mind the league restructuring cost us more than most, and we're now in a division that we're actually too strong for. I would consider us a decent Division Two team capable of a bit of a run in the Championship despite the building hype.
It's all very encouraging and O'Rourke deserves praise and some players like Matty Keenan and Damien Kelly seem to be flourishing under him into certain starters come summer.
We're racking up decent scores in the heavy ground but we're not exactly playing well, still just doing enough to beat a series of fairly weak teams in my opinion. The next two games should reveal a lot more about how we'll fare against the stronger sides.
Overall the optimism builds, and most signs are encouraging. Still hope to come into the Championship under the radar and as underdogs against Monaghan.
Like most other Fermanagh fans if you were to tell me at the start of the NFL that we'd be sitting top of division three with 5 wins on the bounce I would have taken it. However, we must keep our feet on the ground and admit that we aren't beating the top sides in Ireland whereas Monaghan, who are also unbeaten in this league campaign are beating very strong counties such as Armagh and Meath. On paper there isn't much between ourselves and the farney county but given that they have been competing in a higher standard of competition they'll go into this summer's ulster championship full confidence feeling that they can not only beat Fermanagh in Enniskillen but go on and win this year's Anglo Celt.
Whilst this year's league campaign has gone well we still haven't achieved promotion just yet. Failure to beat Wexford this weekend and all the hard work of the last few weeks will have been undone. Hopefully Malachy can keep the lads focused and ensure that there are no slip ups this Sunday.
Yesterday's game was rather strange. Yes, we scored 0-17 but we only played well in patches and more consistent performances will be needed come championship time. One annoying aspect was our failure to kill the game off. With 7 points up with 5 mins remaining, Fermanagh took the foot off the pedal and let Sligo back into. We might get away with it in division three but not in the championship or higher levels of the NFL.
The main performers yesterday were the ever reliable Ryan McCluskey, Eamon Maguire, Shane Lyons, Tommy McElroy and James Sherry. With regards Sherry, at times yesterday he showed us just how good a footballer he really is. Some of the points he took from play were outstanding. Himself and Womble have started to create a good partnership in midfield. When Marty comes back from suspension I wouldn't like to see either player dropped. I've mentioned this a few times but I reckon Marty would be good option at full forward. Matty Keenan has also consistently scored throughout the league and has been a real find for the team and young players such as Tommy McElroy and Damian Kelly have grown in stature under the guidance of Malachy O'Rourke.
So far so good for Fermanagh. Hopefully come Sunday night we'll be celebrating promotion to division two and quietly looking forward to the ulster championship with a little bit of optimism.
Sherry is an outstanding talent, perhaps our most talented if he can stay clear of injury, and must be on our starting 15. I think O'Rourke will include all three players in some capacity, at the minute i think your suggestiuon of McGrath in at 14 would be the most sensible, especially given his fitness concerns.
BBC - Fermanagh 2-6 0-12 Wexford
Fermanagh secured promotion to Division 2 of the Allianz NFL after hanging on for a draw against Wexford on Sunday.
Mark Murphy and Eamon Maguire goals helped Fermanagh lead 2-2 to 0-0.
A brawl broke out as the teams made their way off at half-time with several players involved and Fermanagh's Shane Goan was handed a straight red card.
Seven Mattie Forde points helped Wexford to level and while Fermanagh went ahead again, they needed a late Damien Kelly point to salvage a draw.
Fermanagh's second-half display was disappointing but Down's surprising defeat in Leitrim meant that the draw was enough to secure promotion for the Ernemen.
The lively Eamonn Maguire missed an early goal chance for Fermanagh but the Ernemen did rattle the net in the eighth minute when Mark Murphy blasted home after a Maguire pass.
Provider Maguire notched Fermanagh's second goal almost immediately after a great lay-off by full-forward Martin McGrath.
Fermanagh's lead was eight when McGrath and Matthew Keenan added points and Wexford didn't open their account until the 24th minute when Mattie Forde pointed.
An ugly brawl broke out as the players headed towards the dressing-rooms at half-time with Fermanagh leading 2-3 to 0-3.
Several players from both sides were involved in the disgraceful scenes but the referee deemed that Fermanagh back Shane Goan was the only player who should receive a red card.
Wexford's PJ Banville appeared to come off the worst from the scenes as he trooped off with blood pouring from a facial wound.
Adrian Flynn and Mattie Forde hit Wexford points straight after the break to cut Fermanagh's lead to four before Tommy McElroy got the home side scoring again with a superb long-range effort.
However, Wexford were now controlling proceedings and four Forde points and a Flynn score enabled the Leinster county to draw level.
Admittedly, Fermanagh had missed a chance to kill off Wexford with 10 minutes to go when they squandered a glorious goal chance.
Matthew Keenan stopped the rot to nudge the Ernemen ahead again but Wexford looked set to have grabbed an unlikely victory as Forde and Colm Morris notched quick scores to put them one ahead with three minutes left.
Damien Kelly levelled for Fermanagh although Wexford missed an injury-time chance to win it when Flynn hit a free wide from a tight angle.
Flynn had taken the kick as Forde had been forced off the field because of injury.
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Fermanagh: C Breen, S Goan, S Lyons, D O'Reilly, D Kelly, R McCluskey, T McElroy, M Murphy, J Sherry, C McElroy, M Keenan, M Little, M McGrath, N Keenan, E Maguire. Subs: R Gallagher, M McGrath, D Campbell, R Johnston, S McDermott, N Leonard, P Johnston, L McBarron, H Brady, N Bogue, P Mohan, S Doherty, R Keenan, J McGurn, C Boyle.
I'd love to know who writes this crap sometimes. Disgraceful scenes? Shane Goan hit his man just before half time which the ref didn't spot. The umpire did and the ref noticed the umpire calling his attention just as the half-time whistle went. He obviously told the ref that Goan should go. As the teams were walking to the changing rooms as normal and in peace the ref ran the length of the field to show Goan a red card before he could get into the dressing room. Everyone stood up to see it and the players were all in the vicinity but that's it. No argument with the red but I dunno where he's getting tese disgraceful scenes from.
Absolutely no brawl and no violent scenes, typical bullshit.
As for the match very encouraging opening, but we fell apart for no real reason about ten minutes before half time, and from then scored two points in the last 45 minutes of the game. McCluskey was his usual calm self in possession, Eamon Maguire the same up front, a few great palm downs and lay offs. Little was very quiet and missed a shocking 25-yard free in front of the posts, though the wind hampered even Forde who missed a few. He came into the game well though and hit a few excellent points second half.
Marty McGrath was also great in the opening period, hit two points from play. I'd say that experiment will continue for a while.
"ugly brawl", there was nothing worth talking, I was standing right infront of it. The less said about the refereeing performance today the better. Awful standard for both sides. With regards the football, this was Fermanagh's worst performances so far this campaign however they again showed their fighting qualities to come back from a point down to snatch a draw. We started so brightly today with the two early goals and the game looked over when we had a 8 point lead but I suppose this is Fermanagh and nothing is ever guaranteed. The sending off changed the game. The full back line has been struggling without Barry Owens this year and when we lost the experienced Shane Goan the back 3 were really under pressure. Wexford started to dominated midfield and Fermanagh struggled to get out of their own half. We started to fall back into the old habits of over passing the ball and slowing the whole game down. I don't won't to be too critical however as this was the sixth match in a row and I think a number of players were showing signs of tiredness in the second half.
Eamon Maguire was outstanding today. We has a massive leap for such a small player but most impressive were his intelligent knock downs to other players. He was quiet in the second half but that was due to the lack of possession Fermanagh had in the final third. Martin McGrath did well at full forward but he still isn't 100% match fit. The suspension came at the wrong time as a run of games would have done him the world of good. Tommy McElroy and Damian Kelly were good at times today and the half back line is probably our strongest sector of the team at the minute.
The Down game will give us an opportunity to try out a few things and look at other players in a competitive match environment with promotion already secured. I would like to see O'Rourke try out other options in the full back line. Possibly bring in Paddy Mohan, Paul Johnston or Niall Leonard to see how they get on. Up front I think Paul Ward should be given another opportunity in one of the corners.
I'm really looking forward to the division three final as well. Its not often we get to finals and to win a bit of silverware would be a great achievement and it will also give both the players and supporters a real boost ahead of the championship in May.
Promotion has been secured so congratulations must be given to Malachy O'Rouke and his backroom team in their first season in charge.
Quote from: FermPundit on April 06, 2008, 10:53:53 PM
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The Down game will give us an opportunity to try out a few things and look at other players in a competitive match environment with promotion already secured. I would like to see O'Rourke try out other options in the full back line. Possibly bring in Paddy Mohan, Paul Johnston or Niall Leonard to see how they get on. Up front I think Paul Ward should be given another opportunity in one of the corners.
I'm really looking forward to the division three final as well. Its not often we get to finals and to win a bit of silverware would be a great achievement and it will also give both the players and supporters a real boost ahead of the championship in May.
Promotion has been secured so congratulations must be given to Malachy O'Rouke and his backroom team in their first season in charge.
Would have to agree there pundit. First our CHB line has been, by all accounts, our strongest this year.
Kelly, Clucker and Mcelroy are all really confident on the ball and also have chipped in with a couple of vital scores this year.
They all can pass quite well and have been the driving force behind this team this year. I would love also to see Lyons relieved of the full back job because he to would be a very dangerous WHB. An experiment with Kelly or McElroy playing in the CHF line would be an option for the Down game.
I still think that Breen is the best option for goals because he is so good at shot stopping. Bogue and Goan seem to have the corner back spots nailed down but i thought that Bogue got a bit of a roasting yesterday. Would not mind seeing young Leonard against Down and also give Frog ago at full back.
Midfield has been very consistent this year, especially considering we were missing McGrath. Womble has been fantastic and when J Sherry has played, he has done well. Think that Marty might better be deployed on the edge of the square. Showed yesterday,esp in the first half, he can be a real handful there
Upfront M Keenan has been a real find this year, and E Maguire has also been doing well. We could do with abit more from Lyttle but will be interesting to see if he does give Ward another chance. I think he is good enough for this level. He has pace to burn.
To stay unbeaten 6 weeks on the trot is some achievement and a winning habit is a good one to have comming into the championship.
Will be nice to play Down with no presssure and a league final against Wexford or Down would be an ideal game to have before a championship game against Monaghan. Would be of the required intensity and get us ready for the Battle of Brewster in May.
O'Rourke has done well so far this year but i still feel that it will be next year until we see the real benefits of his training and his man management.
Yep, I agree that we should put Kelly or McElroy in the half forward line. Both have shown the ability to score points and we have plenty of backs who could come in and do a decent job in defence. Although it's likely that changes in personnel will be made for the Down game I hope we approach the match in a positive manner. We haven't got a good record in Newry so a victory would be a real boost to confidence.
O'Rourke has named a surprisingly strong team for Sunday. Thought by his comments in the papers during the week we'd see an experimental side. Ryan Keenan, Shane McDermott, Ronan Gallagher, Niall Bogue and maybe Declan O'Reilly the ones he's probably having another look at. The rest are probably certain Championship starters. Hope we can put it up to Down, will be a good indicator of the new manager's ability to motivate. Doesn't mean a lot to Fermanagh and Down will come out all guns blazing. Also be interesting to see who picks up Benny Coulter, as that's likely to be the man who'll have to keep Tommy Freeman quiet come May. Mark Murphy v Dan Gordon should also be worth watching at midfield.
Glad to see McGrath kept in at full-forward, hope he can build on the last day's showing. Get his fitness up and another few points for his confidence.
Fermanagh: R Gallagher, N Bogue, S Lyons, D O'Reilly, D Kelly, R McCluskey, T McElroy, M Murphy, S McDermott, M Keenan, J Sherry, M Little, R Keenan, M McGrath (capt), E Maguire.
Good result today in Newry for Fermanagh. Bit of a strange line up and we never looked like winning the game until Ryan Keenan's last minute goal to be honest. Started out with Ronan Gallagher (made two great second half saves from Gordon and Coulter) Niall Bogue (subbed after ten minutes for Hugh Brady who then picked up Coulter thereafter, did ok) Declan O'Reilly (not great) Peter Sherry (wasted every ball he got in second half with aimless clearances, good defensively but infuriating in possession) Tommy McElroy (another good performance and fantastic late point, though hit two bad 45s) Ryan McCluskey (a bit more space today and pulled the strings well again from chb) Damien Kelly (should have scored a few points but dragged them wide, decent from open play though) Marty McGrath & Shane McDermott (showed good strength but probably lost the midfeild battle to Rodgers and Gordon, Frog had a much better second half on Gordon, who caught loads of clean ball at midfield early on and stormed forward for two points, both offered little going forward but held firm to turn the game our way by winning the dirty ball) Ciaran McElroy (hit four points from play and had the beating of his man every time, first time I've been really impressed by him, could have played his way into Championship team) James Sherry (again mixed good and the bad, some great takes at midfield and made the catch at the death and shot which led to Keenan's goal, sometimes a bit weak and lethargic though and caught in possession too often, showed his quality at times) Ryan Keenan (showed for the ball better than usual but should have contributed more given the space he had, good option off the bench though and was in right place for goal) Eamon Maguire (our best creative forward, though needs to score more, wasted a few from scoreable positions but he's always the out ball from defence) Jonathan McGurn (hit one 45 over but didn't do much else, not enough to force his way in) Liam McBarron (Caused a few problems as usual and got a good point from distance, another good option).
Tom Brewster came off the bench and hit one great free off his left and a good point from play off his right in first outing of the year, good to see him back.
McQuaid also came on late on but looked very nervous.
That's about them all
The Winning habit is hard to beat and great to see!
Fair enough summary Exiled although I do think you're being a little harsh on Declan O'Reilly and Pete Sherry. I actually thought they had do ok throughout. Ronan Gallagher made 2 outstanding saves although I still think Chrissy Breen will get the nod in May. It's a good situation to have three keepers in the squad who you wouldn't argue about any of them starting.
Given that this was an extremely weakened Fermanagh side to come away from Newry with a victory is brilliant. Even when Down went 3 points up in the second half, O'Rourke refused to bring on the stronger players and he kept faith with the boys that were on. Full credit to him for doing so.
Looking throughout the team it appears that we have competition for every position. Where I thought Shane Lyons was the only viable option at full back, the performance of Hugh Brady yesterday means that this position is still up for grabs. At midfield I thought Frog and Marty did pretty well although Marty didn't look 100% match fit and he faded badly in the second half. I still maintain his best position for this season anyway is on the edge of the square with James Sherry partnering Womble at midfield.
Eamon Maguire is our stand out forward although he still doesn't get enough scores from play. The performances of Ciaran McElroy have been great this year. He has been like a new player in comparison to last year. It appears that the confidence that O'Rourke has shown in him is now starting to pay off.
It was pleasing to see Tom Brew back in a green jersey. Many people within the county doubt his ability but when fit and healthy he's a certain starter. He's big and strong and also gives us another free taking option.
Overall it has been an excellent league campaign. The league final on Sunday is a hard one to call but we're more than capable of winning it. Our first piece of silverware since the all ireland b would be great as we head into the ulster championship in May.
Things are coming along quite nicely!!
Thought I'd give us a bump for the weekend final, Saturday night sounds like the time to head down. Can't see the game being anywhere near a sell out but looking forward to the chance of a Fermanagh man lifting a trophy.
Just remembered I have seen Fermanagh play in an final before, the All-Ireland B in Carrick-on-Shannon that we won. Must be over ten years ago that. Any Fermanagh posters know who lifted that? Cormac McAdam?
All-Ireland 'B'1996
Captain - Cormac McAdam.
1996 (draw): C. McAdam, P. Courtney, S. Breen, C. Fitzpatrick, R. Curran, B. King, J. Gilheaney, P. Brewster, C. Courtney, K. Donnelly, C. Curran, M. Greene, N. Rooney, Rory Gallagher, S. King. Subs: T. Callaghan, M. Gallagher, P. Greene
1996 (replay): C. McAdam, P. Courtney, S. Breen, C. Fitzpatrick, R. Curran, B. King, J. Gilheaney, P. Brewster, L. McBarron, K. Donnelly, C. Curran, M. Greene, N. Rooney,
Rory Gallagher, S. King. Subs: T. Callaghan, Raymond Gallagher
That was a decent enough Fermanagh side. If the qualifiers had of been around in 96 we could have been pretty well. With regards this weekend I'm heading down on Sunday morning. It's an early start with a 12.30 throw in. It's a bit of disaster having to get tickets through the clubs as I think there are plenty of people who travel to a lot of Fermanagh games yet may not be members of their local club. I can't see it being a sell out either.
Fermanagh: F Murphy; P Sheery, H Brady, D O'Reilly; D Kelly, R McCluskey, T McElroy; M McGrath, S McDermott; R Keenan, J Sherry, C McElroy; J McGurn, L McBarron, E Maguire.
Fermanagh make one change from the team which effectively played last week in Newry. Fergal Murphy comes in for Ronan Gallagher and Hugh Brady replaces Niall Bogue, though he replaced him after just 10 minutes last week and did well thereafter on Benny Coulter.
I'd be surprised if Matty Keenan, Mark Murphy and Mark Little don't start somewhere given it's the last real game before Monaghan, but it's a small concern that the half-back line is the only concrete line on the field this year so far.
Brady will be the man assigned to look after Matty Forde and it'll be interesting to see how he manages. Forde is a surprisingly stong forward and should suit Brady's style of defending if that's possible, but Forde doesn't need much space to score and he could destroy us if he's in the mood.
No worries over any of the three 'keepers, all have done well and deserve their games. Healthy competition but I still expect Chris Breen to be number one come Championship.
We only played for the first 15 minutes in Lisnaskea against Wexford and it should be a much better performance this time with, hopefully, 15 players on the field throughout.
Notice the Impartial saying it's Fermanagh's first final since 2001, when we won the All-Ireland B, they've got their dates badly mixed up. Would be a great boost for confidence to win the division and just keep the winning habit for the summer.
Whatever happens it can be no worse than Fermanagh's last appearance in Parnell Park last year. We were totally destroyed by Dublin under the floodlights, maybe 15 point defeat, most embarassing game to watch since Tyrone in the All-Ireland quarter-final in 2003 which was nearly 20 points. Hopeful we can nick this by a few points, we've beaten Wexford fairly comfortably in the qualifiers twice in recent years, and look to be an improved side since then, especially mentally.
Strange enough Fermanagh line up but I don't pay much attention to teams given to the press before a weekend game anymore. I would expect Malachy O'Rourke to approach this match with a championship mentality. There is no way that McGurn and McBarron will be on the forward line, in fact I'd be surprised if either of them start. Marty will probably revert to the edge of the square with Womble going to midfield.
I got my ticket, which is for the terrace, through the club last night. I've heard that tickets have been hard to come by for some people. I wouldn't expect Derry or Kerry to sell their full allocation so hopefully all Fermanagh fans will be able to get to the game.
Right Fermanagh
Big occassion today. Probably deserve to win the league based on performances today; albeit some of the performances haven't been outstanding.
Conversely, winning today could drive us closer to being even money against Monaghan given home advantage.
Whilst you would have to hope Fermanagh can do it today, the greater prize is still to come.
Disappointing result in the end up today. I thought we shaded matters during the first 70 mins but conceded two sloppy goals in the first half and were always chasing the game thereafter. Did well to bring it to extra-time and at this stage I thought we'd come good in but the third goal gave Wexford another injection and they deservedly won in the end.
As I said the goals were disappointing and I think we've got problems in the full-back line. Murphy defo won't be starting come Championship, looked very suspect under the high ball (At fault for third goal), gave away penalty and doesn't seem to have the aerial ability or presence of Breen/Gallagher. I would probably go for Gallagher for the Monaghan match as he's better under the high ball....I reckon from seeing this that Monaghan will look to exploit us here pumping high balls into Corey. D O' Reilly is alright for McKenna cup standard but not a league final/Championship.....Brady too is frustrating...gets involved in silly afters. Thought Sherry in the other corner was ok. Half back line was decent but the Wexford number 14 did some serious damage....he seemed to be playing around the half-forward line? Need to tighten up on the marking here but T McElroy impressed me when he was on the ball. Wexford won a good share of midfield ball but we improved when Murphy when in there whom I thought had a great match BTW...made some great catches and hit some scores. Mcgrath and McDermott were ok. R Keenan had his best game in ahwile, seems to have shed a few pounds, was always available for possesion and took some important scores. C McElroy and Maguire faded in 2nd half after playing decent in first. Not sure about M Keenan though, didn't do enough for me to merit Championship start. J Sherry mixed the good with the bad...some terrible passes at times.
All in all, I thought at times we played some good stuff but defo need to tighten up that defense.
That keeper is useless--was like a comedy keeper giving that penalty away--not to mention the 3rd goal when he dropped an unchallenged ball coming in--he was like david james after coming for balls--he shud have been took off--O'Rourke should have made the hard call after the dodgy penalty he gave away.
Mark Murphy was brilliant--awesome catching, strength and engiene. Man of the match.
Brewster slows the game down and is not suited to fermanagh's all action fast football--he also has to take all free-kicks a la David Beckham for England--he had his days in the early 2000's and should not get a game now.
McBarron is worse than useless--he gives away lazy frees by pushing people in the back and couldnt kick a point to save himself. Kieran Donaghy he aint.
Disapointed for fermanagh today--bar the dodgy keeper they would have got their hands on some very welcome silverwere
Just back from Dublin and I have to admit I'm disappointed that we're not celebrating the division 3 title but in fairness Wexford were probably the better more consistent team today and they were worthy winners. Whilst I know some players made individual errors today I'm not going to be too critical of any player. No one goes out to make mistakes. It was just one of those days. Fermanagh showed great heart and determination to come back into the game which was pleasing to see again today. I think the main difference between the teams today was Mattie Forde. How Fermanagh would love to have a player who is guranteed to get 5 or 6 points a game. At times Fermanagh have to work twice as hard as other counties to get their scores. The Fermanagh full back line struggled today but this is hardly surprising given the absence of Barry Owens and Shane Goan. Mark Murphy was simply outstanding again today. What a player he is turning out to be. He's probably up there with the best midfielders in Ulster. In the forward line Eamon Maguire and Ryan Keenan did well and James Sherry did ok in patches. Overall it was probably Fermanagh's worst performance so far this year but I'm still optimistic that we can do well this summer. We'll have to tighten up our defence and our forwards need to try and get more scores. Murphy has to start at midfield and I think James Sherry will partner him. O'Rourke hasn't really settled on our forward line so places are still up for grabs. If I was picking my championship team tonight based on league performances this is the team I would select.
Breen
Goan
Lyons
P. Sherry
McElroy
McCluskey
Kelly
Murphy
J. Sherry
C. McElroy
M. Keenan
Little
R. Keenan
McGrath
Maguire
Very disappointed, but don't think a defeat will do them any harm, hopefully it will motivate them to come back even stronger. The 3 goals were very disappointing, the first was mis-read by o'reilly and his man floated in between him for an easy goal, decky was having a good year for fermanagh too, but think he may have played himself out of the championship team. The 2nd goal was a dropped ball from frog (i think), very disappointing goal to give away, a basic error. I just dont think there is any room for shane in the team any more, i thought he was poor enough today again. Fergal made a big mistake for the last goal, but 1 bad day at the office does not make him a bad keeper, and I am sure he will be back stronger than ever again, but I doubt it will be this year. Overall however I was reasonably happy with the performance and def think we have a good chance against Monaghan. Womble was outstanding. My team would be
Breen
Sherry
Lyons
Goan
McElroy
Clucker
Kelly
Womble
Marty
McElroy
Mattie Kennan (very lucky to make it)
Ryan keenan
Eamon
Sherry
Little
Fair assessment FAS. Fergal Murphy is very good goalkeeper and anyone who thinks otherwise clearly hasn't seen play over the last few seasons. He made mistakes today but who hasn't? I wouldn't disagree with the personnel you have selected but I don't think James Sherry is most effective at full forward. If he doesn't play midfield his next best position is CH forward. Marty at centre field is fair enough but I would put him on the edge of the square. I would also swap Eamon Maguire and Ryan Keenan abut. Eamon is more effective roaming about the half forward line. McDermott was poor enough but I woudn't be surprised if O'Rourke keeps faith with him at midfield come championship time.
I too think Shane will prob start, the last team i picked was my selection, the team that i think o'rouke will actually pick is:
Gallagher
Sherry
Lyons
Goan
McElroy
Clucker
Kelly
Womble
Shane
McElroy
Sherry
Ryan Keenan
Mattie Keenan
Marty
Eamon
I think Little may miss out come the monaghan game, i also would not be surprised if tom brew gets a start come may, we badly need a reliable free taker!!!
Quote from: FermPundit on April 27, 2008, 09:58:34 PM
Fair assessment FAS. Fergal Murphy is very good goalkeeper and anyone who thinks otherwise clearly hasn't seen play over the last few seasons. He made mistakes today but who hasn't? I wouldn't disagree with the personnel you have selected but I don't think James Sherry is most effective at full forward. If he doesn't play midfield his next best position is CH forward. Marty at centre field is fair enough but I would put him on the edge of the square. I would also swap Eamon Maguire and Ryan Keenan abut. Eamon is more effective roaming about the half forward line. McDermott was poor enough but I woudn't be surprised if O'Rourke keeps faith with him at midfield come championship time.
No-one is argueing that he isn't a good Goalkeeper but he's obviousley going to be behind Gallagher/Breen in the pecking order now. Curious to know what the situation was with the Goalkeeepr rotation anyway? I understand doing it for league games/McKenna cup but for a National Final? I dunno...maybe Murphy started on merit as up to that point he had impressed the most.
I think M Keenan will be lucky to start come Championship. Great at taking a score but workrate wouldn't be the greatest. Womble is defo turning out to be some footballer...some catch!
Womble was outstanding yesterday alright. Certain midfielder for the summer now. Don't think McGrath will partner him though, one of McBarron/Frog or Sherry depending on the opposition. Marty will be in at 14 and Keenan probably done enough yesterday to get his place.
Very disappointed with the defence and goalkeeping. Fancy Gallagher to get it now given the high ball suspicions about the full-back line. Really miss Owens in there and Shane Goan, Peter Sherry was better yesterday but still hoofs the ball to the opposition far too much. Seen Owens out with the team on Sunday though not kitted out. Heard he's back doing a bit of training again and could return for our second game of the year, anyone hear anything else?
Pity to see McCluskey being called back to mark Forde, as Bradley showed O'Se after, doesn't matter how good you are at defending, if the ball's coming in constantly and you've no shield in front top forwards now need no real space at all to take a score.
Agree with the Model Hammer elsewhere though, we learned an awful lot yesterday and know exactlky where we need to work on now for Monaghan. Yesterday has definitely not dampened my expectations for Brewster. Would certainly expect Lyons to start then at full-back with Monaghan certain now to start Corey in at full-forward.
Matty Keenan done himself no favours yesterday and he didn't stay on the pitch when the rest of the team went into a huddle after the game, he was the only one to head straight for changing rooms.
Probably looking at,
Ronan Gallagher
Shane Goan
Shane Lyons
Peter Sherry
Tommy McElroy
Ryan McCluskey
Damien Kelly
Mark Murphy
Shane McDermott
Mark Little
James Sherry
Tom Brewster
Eamon Maguire
Martin McGrath
Ryan Keenan
Ciaran McElroy could come in for Brewster depending on his fitness, or maybe put James Sherry to midfield but don't think he's ignorant enough for in there, especially against Clerkin/Lennon. No harm in Little being dropped lately, he neede a bit of a kick to waken him up but think O'Rourke will start him come Championship.
Would pretty much agree with that team Exiled. Think we defo need Little come the Monaghan game and whilst McElroy hasn't done much wrong, Brewster is always handy for the frees.
QuoteMatty Keenan done himself no favours yesterday and he didn't stay on the pitch when the rest of the team went into a huddle after the game, he was the only one to head straight for changing rooms
Think you got the wrong Keenan. Is was his brother Niall as far as i know.
Team that i would start against Monaghan
Chrissy Breen
Shane Goan
Shane Lyons
Peter Sherry
Tommy McElroy
Ryan McCluskey
Damien Kelly
Mark Murphy
Liam McBarron
Matty Keenan
James Sherry
Ryan Keenan
Eamon Maguire
Martin McGrath
Pat Cadden
Firstly if the last game demonstarted anything it was that McDermott is not a county standard midfielder. He was out caught time and again, and only for the super human efforts of Mark Murphy we would have been destroyed in that sector. He brought us back from the dead nearly on his own
McBarron would be a better foil for Murphy because he would at the worst, stop the other Monaghan midfielder from playing.
Still feel that McCluskey might end up in the corner against Monaghan because i cannot see anybody else beng able to contain Freeman but he is our best CHB, no question. Full back is a worry, especially with Corey on the edge of the square but Lyons has done enough in the League campaign to be given his chance.
Up front i would start Tom Brewster but it would depend on his match fitness. This game might come abit soon for him. O'Rourke seems to like the look of M Keenan and he is our highest scoring forward this year. I think he deserves his starting place.
Lyttle has been extremely disappointing this year and on current form, does not deserve a staring place. R Keenans performance against wexford means that he has played himself into the starting line up.
I feel that Cadden, if fit, could be a real threat because he will have that unknown quality about him and him and Maguire seen to have a good understanding.
Marty at FF means that we can rotate the midfield and still have a genuine target man up there. As was demonstarted by the Wexford game, sometine good quality high ball is an extremely effective weapon, especially wth the small, nippy corner forwards we are going to have.
Good enough merits for that team FermGael. McBarron wouldn't start on current form but if there was ever a man who would hassle, annoy and frustrate the opposition's midfield, it's Liam McBarron. The full back line is a real concern. Reading the comments of the Monaghan posters on other threads they are hoping to take advantage of Fermanagh weakness under the high ball. After Sunday's performance I think Shane Lyons will get the nod at full back and the experience of Shane Goan should help us tighten up things as well.
Lets get this party started...from aertel, so sue rte for errors, not me...
Division 1
Lisnaskea 0-10 2-08 Teemore
Belcoo 0-10 0-09 Tempo
Devenish 1-11 0-09 Brookeboro
St Patricks 0-08 0-13 Enniskillen
Derrygonnelly 1-06 1-07 Newtownbutler
Division 2
Aughadumsee 0-07 5-08 Derrylin
Roslea 0-15 2-08 Erne gaels
St Josephs 2-10 3-09 Irvinestown
Just casting an eye down them, no major shocks. Erne Gaels v close to Roslea - they were fancied to walk div 2, mebbe believed it themselves. Another point, which is strongly related to our intercounty problems - v low scoring games, most of them. In honour of all the stats creeping into gaa, i've done my own: winning teams scored on average 12 scores. Bad forwards? Or good backs? :-\
Any match reports, comments?
Domnic certainly working well so far , great victory for Enniskillen havenbeen 7 to 4 adrift at the break ,Derrygonnelly next on the list next Friday night first game for the recently upgraded Brewster Park,
Quote from: haranguerer on May 04, 2008, 09:47:45 PM
Lets get this party started...from aertel, so sue rte for errors, not me...
Division 1
Lisnaskea 0-10 2-08 Teemore
Belcoo 0-10 0-09 Tempo
Devenish 1-11 0-09 Brookeboro
St Patricks 0-08 0-13 Enniskillen
Derrygonnelly 1-06 1-07 Newtownbutler
Division 2
Aughadumsee 0-07 5-08 Derrylin
Roslea 0-15 2-08 Erne gaels
St Josephs 2-10 3-09 Irvinestown
Just casting an eye down them, no major shocks. Erne Gaels v close to Roslea - they were fancied to walk div 2, mebbe believed it themselves. Another point, which is strongly related to our intercounty problems - v low scoring games, most of them. In honour of all the stats creeping into gaa, i've done my own: winning teams scored on average 12 scores. Bad forwards? Or good backs? :-\
Any match reports, comments?
Predictable scorelines there. Looks like the same faces will be facing a relegation battle again this year.
Has to be bad forwards though, especially on a good weekend weather wise. All the games this evening would have been in good conditions. Maybe it's a slight mix of both, but can't understand why we aren't producing any powerful scoring forwards, or weak scoring forwards for that matter.
Encouraging performance from the Gaels yesterday. There seems to be a new attitude this year among the players and management alike. In previous seasons they would have folded when 3 points down at half time but they improved greatly in the second half outscoring Donagh 8 points to 1. Clucker played the whole game at midfield and did very well. Eamon Maguire was unreal in the first 30 mins but St Pat's are far too reliant on him and they might struggle this year, although they were missing McDermott and Pat Cadden so there's hope for them yet.
All the games were pretty low scoring. Although the weather was perfect for football the fact it was the first game of the season, many players are likely to have made mistakes. A few surprises yesterday in division one. I would have thought Skea would have beaten Teemore at home under the new management of Pat King and Derrygonnelly are usually pretty strong at home as well. In division two I'm not surprised that Erne Gaels gave Roslea a tough test. I've heard they've been going very well this year. Division two only has 7 teams this year given that the Bridge have dropped back down to junior level. As a result Kinawley had a bye yesterday.
I heard the Gaels played well yesterday, so heres hoping for a successful year. It'll be the usual battles this year with probably Derrygonnelly, the Gaels and Teemore battling it out for silverware this season. Particularly glad to see the Gaels taking the league seriously this year, as it's the only way of preparing the team for the Championship. Good to see Belleek pushing Roslea yesterday. Erne Gaels have had a terrible decade since they won the league in '96 with the Gallaghers. They've had good success at underage and nice to see them competing again.
Fermanagh squad announced
07 May 2008
Malachy O'Rourke has announced a strong looking Fermanagh squad for this year's championship campaign.
The Erne County face up to Monaghan on the 25th May with the bulk of the squad which earned them promotion out of Division 3 primed for championship action.
The squad in full is: Ronan Gallagher, Fergal Murphy, Chris Breen, Niall Bogue, Hugh Brady, Declan Campbell, Shane Goan, Paul Johnston, Raymond Johnston, Damien Kelly, Niall Leonard, Shane Lyons, Ryan McCluskey, Tommy McElroy, Paddy Mohan, Declan O'Reilly, Peter Sherry, Ciaran Boyle, Shane McDermott, Martin McGrath, Mark Murphy, James Sherry, Tom Brewster, Patrick Cadden, Shaun Doherty, Matthew Keenan, Niall Keenan, Ryan Keenan, Mark Little, Eamon Maguire, Liam McBarron, Ciaran McElroy, Jonathan McGurn, Darren McQuaid, Paul Ward.
Seen this over on Hoganstand. Don't think there's any news in it at all but thought I'd post it just to keep us on page one if nothing else.
Herald yesterday mentioned Shane McCabe as a possible future inclusion as he's finished with Glentoran for the season. Anyone else really missing?
Seen a very small interview in one of the Sunday papers last week with a Teemore chairman or something saying he expects Owens to play possibly in Fermanagh's second Championship game of the year. Seen nothing anywhere else though. Think it will be Lyons in there for the year at full-back. Notice he scored a goal for Erne Gaels at the weekend too, does he play midfield for them?
Don't think anyone has been left out of the squad, bar McCabe, who I think will defiently join up with the squad in the next while. Don't be surprised if we don't see Owensie back playing for another while yet. Heart surgery of any kind is serious stuff and he'll be strongly advised not to come back until the surgeon okays it. Only a few weeks now until the Monaghan game. I've the flights booked to come home. You can smell the Championship coming!
Any results from the league last night?
FERMANAGH SENIOR FOOTBALL LEAGUE
FRIDAY 9th MAY 2008
DIV I
NEWTOWNBUTLER 0.09 v. DEVENISH 0.10
BROOKEBORO 0.08 v. BELCOO 1.08
TEMPO 0.11 v. LISNASKEA 3.06
TEEMORE 2.10 v. ST PATRICKS 0.11
ENNISKILLEN 1.06 v. DERRYGONNELLY 0.10
DIV 2
ROSLEA 0.11 v. ST JOSEPHS 2.08
IRVINESTOWN 3.10 v. AUGHADRUMSEE 0.08
ERNE GAELS 0.09 v. KINAWLEY 2.06
So much for a rare Championship win over Tyrone.
Hurlers beaten by a point in Skea, 2-7 to 1-11.
In danger of slipping off the front again! Does anyone know when the next round of league fixtures is? I'm presuming theres none now til after the fermanagh match. Any comments on the games so far? Whos looking good?
League fixtures on hold now, haven't heard reports though, going by the ramblings of the Herald.
Seen a few references to the Fermanagh Offaly challenge game, does anyone know a score? By all accounts we tore them to shreds. This is where Lyons got injured, was it merely an accident?
Anyone hear the rumour about Seamie Quigley called up to senior county training after hitting a shit load of points last week when O'Rourke was watching Roslea?
Quigley is probably one of the most talented players to come from Roslea since McGinnity.
If he has the correct attitude then the skys the limit.
Have not heard anything about him getting called up but he has been in good form from Roslea.
Monaghan had a wee run out on Brewster today.
The countdown is on. Lets just hope that we do not lose anymore full backs!!!
Quote from: ExiledGael on May 18, 2008, 07:09:25 PM
Anyone hear the rumour about Seamie Quigley called up to senior county training after hitting a shit load of points last week when O'Rourke was watching Roslea?
Interesting development if true. Reliable source Exiled?
Local man who is friendly with a few of the players. Not 100% that's why I was enquiring here.
Quote from: ExiledGael on May 18, 2008, 09:39:04 PM
Local man who is friendly with a few of the players. Not 100% that's why I was enquiring here.
I haven't heard anything myself. Quigley goes against the norm of a typical Fermanagh forward in the fact that he's big and strong and can take a score from distance. He'd be a great addition to the squad but whether he wants to play for the county is another thing.
Quigley has NOT been called into the fermanagh squad. He is def a great talent, and should be one for the future, but I doubt he will ever have the attitude or temperment to make it at county level.
Think fermanaghandsam is prob right with the first statement, and definitely right with the second. I'd say o'rourke has his homework well done and knows the craic with quigley. With that in mind it would be disastrous to bring him into the panel just before championship. EG, be careful of boys like that, who love to act like they're in the know...he wasn't drinking at the time, was he? ;) :D
Quote from: haranguerer on May 19, 2008, 07:55:21 AM
Think fermanaghandsam is prob right with the first statement, and definitely right with the second. I'd say o'rourke has his homework well done and knows the craic with quigley. With that in mind it would be disastrous to bring him into the panel just before championship. EG, be careful of boys like that, who love to act like they're in the know...he wasn't drinking at the time, was he? ;) :D
Don't they say the truth comes out with the drink! Just wondered was there anything in it. Don't think he'll ever have what it takes to play for the county anyway.
See according to the Irish News that Shane McCabe back on the panel. He'd hardly be starting?
couldnt see it, tho he'll prob come on. Check out the ferm v mon thread, theres reportsof him been bought out of his glens contract. Dunno how much reliance i'd place on that, esp given that its downtime for the IFA currently, contract could well have just been for yr anyway.
Think that Malachy has a wee surprise for us on Sunday.
A former friend of Noel Edmonds was seen on Brewster with the Fermanagh panel on the niveau pitch in Enniskillen.
In some shape too.
Quote from: ODYWER on May 22, 2008, 08:31:57 AM
Think that Malachy has a wee surprise for us on Sunday.
A former friend of Noel Edmonds was seen on Brewster with the Fermanagh panel on the niveau pitch in Enniskillen.
In some shape too.
Strange first post
I presume you've a clue in there somewhere, but I haven't a notion what you're on about.
Good luck on Sunday lads, you can do it.
Quote from: ODYWER on May 22, 2008, 08:31:57 AM
Think that Malachy has a wee surprise for us on Sunday.
A former friend of Noel Edmonds was seen on Brewster with the Fermanagh panel on the niveau pitch in Enniskillen.
In some shape too.
'Niveau' - french for 'level', or did you mean 'nouveau', new? Or were you just locked?? Thats old news about Mr Blobby taking the warm-up anyway...
False starts: since losing the All Ireland semi-nal to Mayo in 2004, Marty McGrath has started just 40 per cent of Fermanagh's championship matches, including just one Ulster game FOR those of you interested, there's a fairly standard procedure when it comes to interviewing northern footballers. You sit down over a coffee (or BLT and chips in the case of this week's subject), are asked not to make too much of a deal over anything they are about to say before they proceed with similar subtlety to a chisel and lump hammer combination. Today the request is no different but given what's happened in recent times it's a little hard to pass it off with a wink and a gentle nudge. Here's why. It's been quite a few years since Marty McGrath's body told him to stop the world because he needed to get off. In 2005 he did just that and only now has he hopped back on.
The series of unfortunate events couldn't have begun at a worse time. In 2003, Fermanagh emerged from the basement like a long-lost childhood toy. At a time when footballing heavies would kick down the door to get in, Fermanagh would tip-toe their way through a window around back. They could never go through you, but more often than not, they'd go around you. A year on and they'd blown an All Ireland semi-final with Mayo but when the All Star committee got down to work, McGrath was the sure thing when it came to midfield. Sean Cavanagh was his number two.
Since then, everything that could go wrong, has, with McGrath starting just 40 per cent of Fermanagh's championship outings since 2004, including just one Ulster game. Beside the leading lights of centrefield, at 26 he's seen as little more than a 40 watt nowadays purely because he hasn't been around. It began with a simple viral infection, his asthma causing a delay in recovery sufficient to put him out of the 2005 championship opener against Armagh. By the time he got back, summer was over. As for 2006, we'll let him tell you about the heart problems himself.
"The very first time I noticed anything I was 16, playing minor championship in Cavan.
I felt the heart racing and rushing and it happened a couple of times after, even in Croke Park, like the quarter-final against Armagh in '03. Mind you, Enda McNulty knocked it right out of me. One night it got real bad and the doctor gave me a monitor but nothing happened so I took it off. Then another night I was coming in and the heart started racing so I just put it on and caught it racing and turned out there was extra tissue in the heart. After that it was up to Dr Joe Galvin in the Mater in Dublin.
"Not that I was worried mind, sure it'd nearly been 10 years at this stage and if something terrible was going to happen it would have happened by then. There were a couple of operations. The first one was two-and-a-half hours and didn't work, the second one was five-anda-half hours but the worst part was I was awake for them. I was glad I got through the second one because it was tough but sure that's only at the time. Could be worse. Anyway the first one went in through the groin, second time through the shoulder and it's strange looking around and them operating.
"They have you relaxing at the start. There was one time at the start and I looked at my pulse and it was 46 and I was thinking, 'Jaysus, I must be fair fit'. Midway through I looked at the pulse again and it was 240. They have to get the heart rate up to get to the extra tissue.
Funny thing was, I picked up an ankle injury that season that kept me out for longer.
Was the last thing we did in training one night, I caught my ankle on the back of Mark Murphy's calf and when I came down I felt a pull. As soon as the sock came off I went up like a balloon. But sure every footballer does an ankle sometime."
As Fermanagh disappeared back into the pack, he became part of the sideline furniture. Yet last year it got worse, after what he describes as a "fight with a digger which I lost badly". Down a drain on the home farm laying electrical cables, and with a JCB on a nearby hill, it swung around at full speed and the bucket caught him square on the side of the face. Dazed and confused he thought the driver had lobbed some of his lunch at him and roared, 'What the f**k are you throwing apples at me for?' When he got up to see the blood streaming from his nose he suggested the doctor but others knew better and he realised they were right when he sat up from a hospital table with the worst pain he'd ever known.
"At the time, my father just put me in the van and I said, 'Sure we'll go to the doctor, why bother with the hospital?' Thankfully we went though. But with the blood streaming, the eye starting to close and my head splitting, all they gave me was paracetamol.
The doctor wasn't going to scan it, he didn't even know what I'd been hit by, started asking me what a digger was. It was a Saturday evening and that's why they didn't want to call anyone in to do the scan. Glad they did though because it was fractured.
I missed the rest of the championship. I was mad to play against Meath but Charlie Mulgrew wasn't going to throw me in. It did take it out of me because I wasn't right for the rest of the year."
You've been unlucky, you ask. The answer is helped out by a big broad smile. "Aye but sure could be worse. Like I remember going out to Malawi in October 2006. We built a community centre over there, myself and James Sherry and Liam McBarron and a few others. Over there, they have nothing and are happy. We have nothing and complain. Like I've had a couple of bad years but nothing major."
His attitude is so laid back and his injury record so striking that you're at times worried he could fall off the chair. If not the four horsemen could prance by the window only for him to stay focused on the bacon, lettuce and tomato. Then you mention Fermanagh these past few years, where the collective disappointment has been just as prevalent as his own tribulations, and he sits forward.
"I remember coming out after the All Ireland semi-final and going back to the hotel. There were a load of people telling us well done and I just kept the head down. My own mother stepped out in front of me and I just couldn't handle it. Kept walking. Jesus it was tough but that's still fresh in the mind and it shouldn't be.
That's four years ago and we've let the time pass too easily. I think we listened too much to the talk, bought into the hype and just presumed we were giving it our best in years since. I can tell you looking back we weren't. We weren't working as hard as we should.
"Like when Malachy O'Rourke came in he just said that he was going to take a professional approach and he wanted everyone to buy into it. It should have been there all the time but anyway, I think the players have bought into it so far. Now though is the time that will tell us if we have really bought into it."
There's a story he tells of some friends from his small village of Ederney over near the Donegal border who bought a Peugeot for £60, painted it green and white and drove it to Croke Park in 2004 in a show of support. A few years ago they tried to auction it off for the club, but when no one was bidding they just bought it back themselves. "It's been sitting in a garage since, won't be in Brewster Park and probably will never be seen unless we got back to Croke Park. It's time it got back on the road."
Much like himself and much like Fermanagh in general then.
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That is a classic interview!! Gonna put it on the 'journalist write-off thread - where'd it come from kiddo?
Sure i see you're dodgin about that thread yourself, I'll leave you to throw it on with the source. Right, off to ekn!!!
Owens comeback to boost Ernemen
Barry Owens had heart surgery back in January
Fermanagh football has received a further boost with the news that Barry Owens is set to make his comeback to action this weekend.
Twice All Star Owens had surgery in January to correct a slight heart defect and missed the entire NFL and Sunday's Ulster SFC win over Monaghan.
However, Owens could line out for his club team Teemore this weekend.
Teemore face Tempo on Friday in a Fermanagh League game and have another fixture against Brookeboro on Sunday.
Fermanagh PRO Deirdre Donnelly told BBC Sport that Owens "has resumed light training" but was unable to shed any further light on the prospect of him lining out for his club this weekend.
At the time of the operation, it was stated that he was likely to be out of action for around four months.
Fermanagh will play either Donegal or Derry in the Ulster semi-final on Saturday 21 June.
Excellent news. If it's true then he's back playing a lot sooner than I had anticipated.
Fermanagh's ferocious commitment knocks Monaghan out of their stride
SEAN MORAN at Brewster Park
)ULSTER SFC FIRST ROUND/Fermanagh 2-8 Monaghan 0-10: ULSTER CUSTOM reasserted itself in emphatic fashion yesterday in Enniskillen. In the recent years of Armagh's and Tyrone's stable grip on the championship something of the old iconoclasm passed out of the game in the province. But here we had the big story from last year's All-Ireland series reaching the end of this season's new chapter before the end of May.
There was foreboding from Monaghan's point of view in the lead-up to this match. They had played a full deck through the National League and fallen away in the critical closing hands.
Then they had to come to Brewster Park on the day of its reopening to face a home team that had closed the deal in its own division and under the meticulous management of Malachy O'Rourke were confident and well stacked after a league campaign shuffling together a strong squad.
Monaghan needed to show all the tenacity of last year in harrying the will to win out of their opponents and play to the strengths of their full forwards. But in the end they only managed such prescriptions for about 10 minutes in the second half after which the concession of a second, messy goal re-orientated the match onto Fermanagh's axis.
The home side were the ones who demonstrated the ferocious commitment never to allow their opponents settle into the game and their zeal upset Monaghan in every sector of the field. Referee Derek Fahy was punctilious in punishing fouls and this militated against the visitors rather than the more disciplined home team.
Both sides switched around their line-ups before the start albeit to no great surprise. Gary McQuaid came in at centre back and Donal Morgan in the corner in place of Darren Hughes and Paul McGuigan whereas Fermanagh replaced Shane McDermott with Liam McBarron, threw the Kilmacud man in at full forward and repositioned captain Martin McGrath at centrefield.
McGrath and Mark Murphy definitely had the better of Eoin Lennon and Dick Clerkin at centrefield but it wasn't a decisive superiority because there wasn't a great deal of clean possession. Where the match turned was on Monaghan's decreasing percentages on breaking ball.
They had started reasonably well in terms of possession but the distribution into the forwards wasn't good. Build-up was too often laboured and when ball did get through Fermanagh's defence was alert and tight.
The winners were also unexpectedly economical in attack for the periods in which the match was open. Towards the end there was a good deal of wild shooting but the match was over by then.
Fermanagh got off to a good start. In the third minute McBarron, whose awkward, physical style disrupted Monaghan throughout took advantage of a bouncing ball that the defence failed to clear to bustle home a goal. That score established a pattern of Monaghan trying to reduce the deficit but never actually closing it. From the time McBarron's goal rippled the net, the home side were always in front.
Ryan Keenan, who with Eamon Maguire in the corners of the attack showed well for ball and posed constant problems, kicked a couple of frees while Maguire and Ciarán McElroy scored from play to keep the scores climbing.
Monaghan's All Star attacker Tommy Freeman had been injured in an accident at work during the week and his participation was touch and go but although he was undoubtedly subdued, he wasn't getting a decent supply to work with in the first place.
Both teams were also coping with a blustery wind that appeared, judging by the wides count, to hinder Monaghan in the first half - for instance Paul Finlay's close-range miss from a free - and their opponents in the second. At half-time Fermanagh were four clear, 1-5 to 0-4.
The one period of the match in which Monaghan seriously threatened was the third quarter. Three unanswered points got the margin down to the bare minimum until another Keenan free stretched it back to two, 1-6 to 0-7.
The match might have turned in the 40th minute had Shane Goan not scrambled back to clear the ball off the line after Vincent Corey had knocked the ball out of Ronan Gallagher's hands.
Two was the margin when disaster befell Monaghan in the 55th minute. Keenan shot for a point and his kick drifted across the goal. It wasn't cleared and Ciarán McElroy pounced for Fermanagh's second goal and all Monaghan's hard work at reviving the contest had just gone down the drain.
Fermanagh opened the throttle and dominated the rest of the match. McGrath was the dominant figure in the middle but his half lines swarmed all over the sector and Monaghan could hardly buy a serviceable ball.
When the ball was worked forward, Fermanagh's defence was more than equal to the increasingly dispirited challenge. Manager Séamus McEnaney tried his various bench options but his team's familiar pressure play and high-energy game had never really got going.
Fermanagh will play the winners of next week's Donegal-Derry showdown. Ulster moves on without Monaghan.
FERMANAGH: 1. R Gallagher; 2. S Goan, 3. H Brady, 4. P Sherry; 5. D Kelly, 6. R McCloskey, 7. T McElroy; 8. M Murphy, 14. M McGrath; 15. C McElroy (1-1), 11. J Sherry, 12. M Little (0-1); 13. E Maguire (0-1), 24. L McBarron (1-0), 10. R Keenan (0-3, frees). Subs: 22. S McCabe (0-1) for J Sherry (47 mins), 26. M Keenan (0-1) for C McElroy (61 mins), 9. S McDermott for Brady (70 mins).
MONAGHAN: 1. S Duffy; 24. D Morgan, 3. JP Mone, 2. D Mone, 5. D Freeman (capt), 20. G McQuaid, 4. N Farrell, 5. D McArdle; 8. E Lennon (0-1), 10. D Clerkin; 9. P Finlay (0-3, one free), 13. R Woods, 11. S Gallogly; 12.C McManus (0-1), 14. V Corey (0-1), 15. T Freeman (0-3, two frees). Subs: 28. C Hanratty (0-1) for Woods (half-time), 19. R Ronaghan for McManus (55 mins), 6. D Hughes for Morgan (60 mins), 13. R Woods for Gallogly (67 mins).
Referee: Derek Fahy (Monaghan).
O'Rourke's men show they learned lessons of the league
SEAN MORAN
MALACHY O'ROURKE wore the contented demeanour of a man for whom most things had gone to plan. His Fermanagh team had energetically defused opponents who had arrived packed tight with regrets about last year's All-Ireland quarter-final defeat by Kerry and determined to use the angst as fuel for a strong season.
"The boys have worked very hard all year," he said. "We came here expecting to put in a big performance. We were going into the unknown a wee bit given that Monaghan were one of the top teams in the country last year. We had done well in Division Three but didn't know what it would be like coming up against a team like Monaghan."
Fermanagh's NFL campaign had comfortably delivered promotion but was deprived of the decoration of the Division Three title because of the concession of three goals in the final. According to O'Rourke, the team had treated the experience as a useful diagnostic.
"I thought our defence was strong all through," he said. "They didn't give away many frees, which was a big thing because we knew they had two very good free-takers. The last day against Wexford we conceded three bad goals, so we worked on that and our defence was probably a lot tighter."
While Fermanagh move on to the Ulster semi-final, Monaghan had been emptied by the setback, which side-tracks them into the qualifiers in all of eight weeks.
Manager Séamus McEnaney emerged to talk to the media, waiting until all interested parties had gathered respectfully around - "to get the pain over with", as he put it.
"I'm very disappointed. We seemed to lack intensity and conceded two very bad goals, which was probably the difference in the end. In fairness, we weren't at the races for long periods today and Fermanagh could have beaten us by more.
"Absolutely no way did we underestimate them. The question was: would we be able to hang on in the battle for 68-70 minutes? Unfortunately we were too far away with 68 minutes gone.
"We felt we were really motivated coming into this game. Now, I know that doesn't explain what we've seen in the last 75 minutes, but lads, listen, the bottom line is these lads have given up the last five or six months of their lives for today's game and that's wild disappointing for everyone.
"That part of it is down the drain for us. We would like to be preparing for the high road, but we have to prepare now for the low road and battle our way back into it."
They had coped with the unwelcome distraction of All Star forward Tommy Freeman injuring himself at work during the week.
"Yes, there was a danger that Tommy wouldn't play," said the manager. "He was completely out of contention on Thursday. He got a nail straight through his hand on Thursday and it wasn't taken out until Friday evening. He spent two nights in hospital, but anything that came into him today I thought he did quite well. That didn't affect our performance."
And the old standard in these days of the back door: will it be hard to lift them for the qualifiers?
"The next four or five days will tell a lot, but these lads aren't going to walk away from it easy."
What about this weekends games. Anyone got fixtures and predictions there?
Friday 30th May
SFL @ 8.00pm
Manor House Hotel SFL Div. 1
St. Patricks v Derrygonnelly (Derrygonnelly)
Lisnaskea v Brookeboro (Lisnaskea)
Belcoo v Newtownbutler(Belcoo)
Devenish v Enniskillen(Enniskillen)
Teemore v Tempo (Teemore)
Fermanagh Herald SFL Div. 2
St. Josephs v Erne Gaels(St Josephs)
Aughadrumsee v Roslea(Roslea with about 4 men sent off)
Kinawley v Derrylin (Kinawley)
Sunday 1st June
SFL @ 3.30pm
Manor House Hotel SFL Div. 1
Derrygonnelly v Devenish (Derrygonnelly)
Tempo v St. Patricks (Tempo)
Newtownbutler v Lisnaskea (Draw)
Brookeboro v Teemore (Brookeborough)
Enniskillen v Belcoo (Enniskillen)
Fermanagh Herald SFL Div. 2
St. Josephs v Aughadrumsee (St Josephs)
Erne Gaels v Derrylin (Erne Gaels)
Irvinestown v Kinawley(Kinawley)
SFL @ 8.00pm
Manor House Hotel SFL Div. 1
St. Patricks v Derrygonnelly (Derrygonnelly)
Lisnaskea v Brookeboro (Lisnaskea)
Belcoo v Newtownbutler (Newtownbutler)
Devenish v Enniskillen(Enniskillen)
Teemore v Tempo (Teemore)
Fermanagh Herald SFL Div. 2
St. Josephs v Erne Gaels(Erne Gaels)
Aughadrumsee v Roslea (Roslea/Abandoned ::))
Kinawley v Derrylin (Kinawley)
Sunday 1st June
SFL @ 3.30pm
Manor House Hotel SFL Div. 1
Derrygonnelly v Devenish (Derrygonnelly)
Tempo v St. Patricks (Tempo)
Newtownbutler v Lisnaskea (Newtownbutler)
Brookeboro v Teemore (Teemore)
Enniskillen v Belcoo (Enniskillen)
Fermanagh Herald SFL Div. 2
St. Josephs v Aughadrumsee (St Josephs)
Erne Gaels v Derrylin (Erne Gaels)
Irvinestown v Kinawley(Irvinestown)
You've inspired me to have a wee go myself Fermgael. For a min there I thought you were saying Roslea were going into their game with 4 sent off i.e banned, but then read it again. Have to agree! Ntb vs Skea on Sun could be nasty too! Oh and just see St Joes playing A'see on Sun, theres a bit of history there as well...
anyone know Franz Herirtzeur who played full forward for the hurlers?
is he any good?
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Lisnaskea 1-11 Brookeboro 1-07
Devenish 2-07 Enniskillen 0-11
Tempo beat Teemore quite easily, they were 1-08 to 0-01 up at half time.
Belcoo 0.15, Newtownbutler 1.10, tonight inBelcoo.
Owens makes comeback to football - BBC Sport
Fermanagh footballer Barry Owens made his anticipated comeback to football in a club game on Friday night.
Owens was introduced as a second-half replacement at full-forward as Teemore suffered a heavy defeat by Tempo in a Fermanagh Division 1 League game.
Twice All Star Owens had surgery in January to correct a slight heart defect and missed the entire NFL and Sunday's Ulster SFC win over Monaghan.
Owens could be in contention for the Ulster semi-final on 21 June.
Fermanagh wil play the winners of Sunday's game between Donegal and Derry in the provincial semi-final.
At the time of Owens' operation, it was stated that he was likely to be out of action for around four months.
Friday 30 May
SFL Division 1
St. Patrick's 1-10 1-07 Derrygonnelly
Lisnaskea 1-11 1-07 Brookeboro
Belcoo 0-15 1-10 Newtownbutler
Devenish 2-07 0-11 Enniskillen
Teemore 1-05 1-13 Tempo
SFL Division 2
St. Joseph's 1-09 0-10 Erne Gaels
Aughadrumsee 0-03 0-13 Roslea
Kinawley 1-12 1-04 Derrylin
In division 1 bit of a surprise with St. Pat's beating Derrygonnelly. I saw them at the start of the year and I thought they would struggle. Big win for them. In division 2 two big derby games between Aughdrumsee v Roslea and Kinawley v Derrylin. Both matches appear to have been one sided affairs going by those scorelines. Erne Gaels have made big improvements this year which is pleasing to see. It looks like its Kinawley, Roslea and Ederney battling it out for promotion to div 1.
Enniskillen 2-10 Belcoo 2-11
Brookeboro 1-12 Teemore 1-08
Newtown defeated Skea quite easily. Didn't hear any other scores. Belcoo are sitting top of the table with 8 points with 4 wins from 4 games
Any results from the weekend?
Friday 6th June
SFL Division 1
Tempo 0-10 0-03 Brookeboro
Teemore 0-15 0-11 Newtownbutler
St. Patrick's 0-11 1-09 Devenish
Belcoo 2-11 2-13 Derrygonnelly
Lisnaskea 1-07 1-11 Enniskillen
SFL Division 2
Derrylin 2-10 1-08 Irvinestown
Kinawley 0-02 0-09 Roslea
Aughadrumsee 1-11 0-13 Erne Gaels
Just seen about Bogue in the papers today. Hadn't heard it anywhere, and it's another big loss of options at the back. Can't really afford anyone else to get injured. He's apparently out for the year.
Any more word on these 'knocks' affecting Maguire and Brady?
up Fermanagh!
QuoteFermanagh Club Senior Competitions
24 June 2008
As a result of the success of the Fermanagh Senior Football team in reaching the Ulster Final, Fermanagh CCC have agreed to postpone a number of the proposed rounds of the senior football league to enable the team to prepare for the final.
This Friday nights round of senior football leagues will go ahead as scheduled, no further rounds of the SFL will take place until after the Ulster Final. The Erne Cup will go ahead as scheduled with the exception of games involving Coa and allowances will be made for Maguiresbridge during the Fermanagh hurlers involvement in the Nicky Rackard Cup.
To ensure that club players in Fermanagh are provided with competitive football competitions CCC have created a new competition to be played over the next month. It is hoped to confirm a sponsor for the competition shortly.
The details of the new competition are as follows:
1. No county players are allowed to play
2. No cancelations
3. Three sections, with six teams in each section.
4. Top team in each section will go into a draw, 1 team go straight into the final and the remaining two will take part in a semi-final.
5. The dates for the games are Friday 4th July, Sunday 6th July, Friday 11th July, Sunday 13th July, Friday 18th July, Semi-final Sunday 27th July and the final on Friday 1st August.
6. The fixtures will be confirmed at the weekend, the clubs in each section are detailed below.
Section A
Kinawley
Belcoo
Coa
Derrygonnelly
Lisnaskea
Tempo
Section B
Aughadrumsee
Roslea
Newtownbutler
Brookeboro
Derrylin
St.Patricks
Section C
Teemore
Erne Gaels
Enniskillen
Devenish
St.Josephs
Irvinestown
Probably in the best interests of all the county players and good to see the county board organiazing something for the club footballer. Good idea in theory
Lads what do you think of the Fermanagh Herald?
I have read it sporadically online over the last few months and I must say it is the best local paper I have come across for GAA. Bradley and Campbell do a gret job.
Have to disagree Corn. It seems to try to cover a lot of GAA but it's definitely a case of quantity over quality. Particularily for county games the Impartial is streets ahead, especially in terms of photography and lay-out. They do match ratings, even the scorers which the Herald hadn't been doing until lately. An awful lot of captions appear incorrect though this may admittedly be the fault of the lazy photographer just, not sure if they have their own. The Impartial is a very impressive paper to look at, the back page especially, but after the county games and a bit of senior football it doesn't really bother with much else. Would prefer to read Cauldwell's stuff rather than anything in the Herald, but that may have a lot to do with how it's presented. The Herald's is often huge chunks of unbroken words and very hard to wade through.
In saying that it's an essential buy for all the club notes and underage stuff which they cover in great detail. They obviously have a great relationship with the clubs of the county.
Wouldn't use the online versions too much, and still not sure about the pull-out sports section. Sport just belongs at the back, though the full-page add must be worth shifting the whole lot to the middle.
Impartial reporter is far better.
Just added a poll at the top of the page.
Who would you rather face in the final.
Ive gone with Armagh. We have faced them a fair few times over recent years and although '04 was the only time we beat them we have came very close in others.
Quote from: corn02 on June 25, 2008, 02:39:09 PM
Lads what do you think of the Fermanagh Herald?
I have read it sporadically online over the last few months and I must say it is the best local paper I have come across for GAA. Bradley and Campbell do a gret job.
Fermanagh Herald is the only paper I can buy weekly in Belfast so it's my main source of information for all matters GAA . I think you can get the Impartial Reporter in town but I don't work in the city centre so the Herald has to do me.
In terms of coverage I would say both papers are pretty much equal but with regards quality of layout and presentation the Impartial is far surperior. The Fermanagh Herald is traditionally the GAA paper in the county but in recent years the Impartial's coverage of the Fermanagh county teams has improved greatly. Gareth Cauldwell is also an impressive sports journalist with a very easy to read style. Both himself and Michael Breslin do match reports and articles for the Irish News and Irish Daily Star. Damian Campbell is also a good read on a Wednesday in the herald. He has seen many a Fermanagh team over the years so I always take his thoughts on board. In general I think the majority of people buy both papers every week just in case they might miss something. Overall we're lucky to have two good local newspapers who give GAA excellent coverage each week.
Have to agree, both papers give a lot of coverage to the GAA. They both realise there is a big GAA readership so it is vital for them to cover it well.
I would also buy the Fermanagh News on a Friday. It covers plenty of the GAA as well. Do many of you buy it? It gets plenty of criticism from people about the amount of photographs in it though!
Quote from: Erne Gael on June 25, 2008, 10:34:56 PM
Have to agree, both papers give a lot of coverage to the GAA. They both realise there is a big GAA readership so it is vital for them to cover it well.
I would also buy the Fermanagh News on a Friday. It covers plenty of the GAA as well. Do many of you buy it? It gets plenty of criticism from people about the amount of photographs in it though!
You can't beat the Fermanagh News! Always great for cutting out the photos and looking back at them 10 years later or even still being in 'Down Memory Lane' as I have been several times. On a more serious note, The Impartial Reporter is simply a lot more professional than the herald. Mark Conway has done a great job and I have to admit that I prefer reading it. As i'm out of the country I have to rely on both paper's websites and again the Impartial wins hands down here again.
Yep, the Fermanagh news is bought weekly as well. It gives an unbelievable amount of coverage to Tyrone though, probably on par with Fermanagh leading up to a championship game. I've never understood this. Maybe there is a large readership of the Fermanagh news in Trillick, Dromore and Fintona but I doubt it.
Gets a lot of criticism for the photos alright but that's all people buy it for now. Countless team photos, buy it any week of the year and there's a strong chance you'll see yourself in it, whether recently or ten years ago.
Quote from: FermPundit on June 25, 2008, 10:52:33 PM
Yep, the Fermanagh news is bought weekly as well. It gives an unbelievable amount of coverage to Tyrone though, probably on par with Fermanagh leading up to a championship game. I've never understood this. Maybe there is a large readership of the Fermanagh news in Trillick, Dromore and Fintona but I doubt it.
Aye you're right about the Tyrone coverage. It's what you call 'filler' material when theres not enough Fermanagh stuff to go in there. There's always an awful amount of adverts in the paper as well, and usually no one from Fermanaghs selling anything. Very strange for a 'local paper'.
Wtf? This must be a record no of posts on this thread in 1 day! We fermanagh folk really have come out of our shells!
Agree Impartial Reporter is better for quality (its far and away the best local paper I've seen, although admittedly thats not too many), but think the Herald is still decent enough. I think we're lucky to have 2 such papers serving us. Bradley can be cringeworthy enough tho this week wasn't too bad.
The club competition is a good idea, its a decent attempt to keep every one happy, never an easy thing to do. Certainly it throws up some new games, and even if there are uneven matches, teams like Coa will relish the chance to play against Div 1 teams.
Good decision by the county board, regains some of the respect I lost watching Cartys interview on telly
'...we're a good team, derry are a good team, we beat derry, that means we're a better team...'
I just be viweing online so I don't get to see layout etc. I actually haven't seen the Herald, must take a peek now.
The Impartial I mean.
Good article in the Herald here from Bradley, except maybe for the references to Garth.
Thank God for unanswered prayers
By Colm Bradley
As I was driving to Omagh on Saturday night huge fat drops of rain
fell on the windscreen. Not good I thought, these conditions won't suit
our boys. Longest day of the year and it's lashing, just our luck I
cursed. As the week had gone on I had grown more confident that we
would win but the inclement weather was beginning to make me have a few
doubts. Looking up at the heavens it did not look like we were going to
get any help from the man above. Please God let it calm down I said to
myself. It didn't look like it would. He must be from the Lough Shore I
thought.
Trotting up the Gortin Road I pulled the old jacket up around the
ears and tried not to breath in the intoxicating aromas of the burger
vans - Jaysus them quarter pounders looked tasty - and got to the
ground just as the second half of the ladies match was starting.
I made for the relative shelter of the press box. No, not the fancy
glass fronted one on the terrace side but rather the good old fashioned
one at the back of the stand.
Slipping in I went to find a little spot in the corner but just like
Mary and Joseph there was no room at the Inn. It seemed that this was
the spot for the radio press only while the glass palace on the far
side was for TV, Daily and Sunday papers. Where to for the poor old
local papers then? The papers which carry pictures, teams and reports
for eight underage finals which take place on one day. The papers which
have 350 word reports on Junior football, the type of football which
keeps the heart of our Association beating? Oh right, the back row of
the stand. Cheers. Thanks very much! Huddled together we took our place
with notebooks on knees and pens between teeth. Hands were kept in our
pockets. It was vitally important to keep the blood flowing to the
digits, which were only to be set free from their cloth prison when
absolutely necessary.
A Jack Lemon look alike from the Ulster Council insists on seeing
Damian Campbell's press pass before dishing out a programme. I look
around to see if Walter Matheu might be a little more accommodating but
I can't seem to find him. I decide not to ask for one. I will share
with my more illustrious colleague.
The time ticks down and Derry are first out. A full 25 minutes
before the game starts. Madness I think to myself. Fermanagh are out a
good seven or eight minutes later and look far hungrier in the warm up
but. The game starts and the atmosphere hots up.
I look to my left during a break in the opening moments and can see
Ronan Gallagher has taken a little stroll from the goal. He seems to be
talking to Paddy Bradley. Having a wee word in the ear as the saying
goes. Oh to be eavesdropping I think to myself! Instead we have to
guess the conversation.
'Hey Paddy, do you sit polishing your All Star at night? They say it
is harder to win the second,' the big Belleek native might say.
'Hey Ronny, where have you been for the last three years,' Paddy could retort.
'Excommunicated Paddy, but there is a new Pope in town now,' Gallagher explains, getting the last laugh in.
On fifteen minutes it has turned into a nightmare though. Derry lead
by five and all week I had prayed for a good Fermanagh start. Derry, I
felt, would be next to impossible to reel in if they went five or six
ahead.
God is definitely a Derry man tonight I convince myself. And then it
gets worse. A penalty for the Oak Leaf men. Rattle the net here and we
can all go home.
Up steps Gilligan. Gallagher narrows. Gilligan blasts. Gallagher
saves! Magnificent stop. Buffonesque in style. Redemption for the big
goal keeper who is truly back in full communion with Fermanagh
football.
The boys outfield now begin to play. Tommy McElroy and Damian Kelly
get their gallop up and Eamon Maguire does what Eamon always does,
plays superbly. Mark Little and Ciaran McElroy begin to drop back and
Derry can't get through. Paddy Bradley fouls McElroy in front of the
Derry dugout. Booked for his troubles he gives the Derry trainer a
mouthful. Great I think. They are rattled.
Shane McCabe plays the pass of the night to Mark Little who is
fouled. Most of the crowd think nothing of the pass. Pity. There are
only a handful of players in Ireland who could have played that pass
and we should be thankful we have one of them.
It's only two points at half time and Derry look deflated. Fermanagh are on the up and we can win.
We kick a few wides at the start of the second half and a worrying
feeling begins to creep in. The notebook is discarded. Hands are out of
the pockets too, chewed down to the knuckles. The reporting can wait.
Just a simple fan now.
We need a goal. Time to call for Lazurus. Barry Owens gets warmed
up. He comes on at the edge of the Derry square. A minute later Eamon
Maguire drops a shot short and Owens swoops. Goal! You couldn't make it
up. We are ahead and we drive on, McGrath, Keenan, Little and Maguire
(twice) score. Derry are a beaten team. This is our night. 26 years of
waiting is over. Fans invade the pitch and grown men cry. We are in an
Ulster final. Go on pinch yourself. An Ulster bloody final.
Sitting in a line of traffic on the way out of Omagh I spot Fr Brian
D'arcy. Rolling down the window he leans in. Tears in his eyes and a
frog in his throat. He can hardly speak, but his face says a thousand
words.
The boys were absolutely brilliant. They fought, battled and played some great football.
Everything seemed to be against us. Bad conditions and a whirlwind
Derry start looked to have us beat. And I was cursing the big man in
the clouds. As I reached Irvinestown I flicked around the radio
stations and landed on a Gareth Brooks classic and smiled, I even sang
along with the chorus.
'Sometimes, I thank God, for unanswered prayers.'
One of the ones I had read Exiled, good article.
Only having the option of looking online, I would say the Impartial shades it. Although if your at home its hard to beat the Heralds coverage of all the GAA happening
And what a pass that was by McCabe, you could eat it!
Yes the Impartial's website is of excellent quality and very easy to navigate. The Herald's is a bit all over the place and can sometimes be hard to find what you are looking for. You can subscribe to look at the full edition online, which would be good for people not at home, does anyone do this? Don't think the Fermanagh News has a website, maybe it does, I just have never seen it.
Do you think another paper could survive in the county? Perhaps a Tuesday paper could do well if people were prepared to buy it if it was of good quality. I'm sure the Herald wouldn't be happy if a Tuesday paper nipped in and stole their early week glory with reports of matches from the previous weekend etc! The Impartial doesn't seem to be affected by the Herald being out the day before and produces some good sports stories, although you could say they have a day extra to get them. The Fermanagh News does have match reports from the previous weekend but they also do previews of the club games at the weekend which the others sometimes don't and which makes them slightly different.
Added a new poll at the top regarding the new Summer League. The poll on who you would rather face in Ulster Final finished with Armagh 4 votes and Down 5 votes. Majority lost! By the way is there only a total of 9 Fermanagh people on the board?
Certainly not many more than that registered anyway. Few lurkers I'd say.
Might get a few coming out of the woodwork in the next few weeks.
With regards the summer league it's a good idea in theory but it'll be a complete waste of time IMO. Remember the shield from 2004? It was a complete shambles. I see the first games take place this Thursday night. That will really suit the guys working in Belfast or Dublin. I'm not having a go at the county board by the way. They're trying their best to accomodate all club players but in reality all games won't be taken seriously unless the county men are available. I think they had similar problems in Tyrone. They created a new league cup competition but I know of one club who withdrew from the competiton before it had even began. I suppose with the county team doing well not too many people will have a keen eye on club football for the next 4 weeks anyway.
Quote from: ExiledGael on July 01, 2008, 05:39:08 PM
Certainly not many more than that registered anyway. Few lurkers I'd say.
Might get a few coming out of the woodwork in the next few weeks.
There's definitely a lot more Fermanagh folk floating about the board these last few months. When I first joined I can only think of 4 or 5 other Fermanagh posters. I suppose it's the responsibility of all registered members to try and keep the Fermanagh thread going. Its the only place to discuss all local GAA matters given that the Hogan Stand (Fermanagh message board) has fallen away badly in the last few months.
Ay numbers seem to be up slightly here.
Has the changes in Hoganstand's layout and registering killed off the local discussions (if that's what you could call them)?
Quote from: ExiledGael on July 01, 2008, 07:14:06 PM
Ay numbers seem to be up slightly here.
Has the changes in Hoganstand's layout and registering killed off the local discussions (if that's what you could call them)?
Yep, the number of posts on the Fermanagh message board has decreased to about one or two daily. Its not like we're missing any intelligent discussion but it was a useful enough source of information regarding fixtures and results. It appears people are reluctant to register accounts to participate in GAA discussion. I can't think of any reason to explain this.
How is everyone treating the Summer League? Any word of any clubs pulling out?
Saw a couple of results so far, Newtownbutler putting up some big scores while Enniskillen have lost both their games including a hammering yesterday to I think Ederney!! What is going on there?
Quote from: Erne Gael on July 07, 2008, 10:24:18 PM
How is everyone treating the Summer League? Any word of any clubs pulling out?
Saw a couple of results so far, Newtownbutler putting up some big scores while Enniskillen have lost both their games including a hammering yesterday to I think Ederney!! What is going on there?
Think most of the Gaels players where at a wedding so no doubt they fielded a 2nd string side. IMO the Summer league won't be taken seriousley as already seen by the number of teams dropping out. Fella's would be more concerned with using the wkends to head out on the rip rather than commit to a Competition the County board put together in a couple of hours!
Quote from: tintin25 on July 08, 2008, 12:16:09 PM
as already seen by the number of teams dropping out
Who all has pulled out?
Coa have pulled out along with Belcoo......heard the Gaels had as well but maybe they are fielding their Junior sides or something! Tempo v Kinawley match on Sunday was 13 aside....says it all really.
Quote from: tintin25 on July 08, 2008, 12:54:30 PM
Tempo v Kinawley match on Sunday was 13 aside
Could the teams not field 15? who won that game, any good?
I thought Enniskillen would have a good junior team, even good enough to compete with most teams in the Summer competition?
Ulster Ladies intermediate champions
Fermanagh 1-10 Cavan 1-08
Quote from: tintin25 on July 08, 2008, 12:54:30 PM
Coa have pulled out along with Belcoo......heard the Gaels had as well but maybe they are fielding their Junior sides or something! Tempo v Kinawley match on Sunday was 13 aside....says it all really.
Don't think Belcoo have pulled out. As far as I know, Coa pulled out thats why they had no game on Sunday, and they are playing Kinawley on Friday night.
What about Glentoran pulling the pin on McCabe after the final? Hopefully will bow out with a medal in his back pocket
Shame about McCabe, looking like the footballer he was at underage recently, but if he hits the winning score I'd start supporting Glentoran!
On another subject, is anyone else surprised how quickly the mood has turned againest Fermanagh on these boards? I don't want to start a debate on the local thread, but you darn't write anything positive on the other threads or you'll have 4 pages of bitterness to read & respond to.
As one of our brethren noted it's possibly a surer sign than any that we really have arrived!
Apart from one or two winding up and maybe one genuinely bitter one I still think we'll have the backing of the entire GAAboard & country outside the orchard. What that's worth I'm not sure.
Come throw in it'll be worthless, but have to say that I haven't seen this Fermanagh team that is destroying GAA! We haven't won a thing, you'd think they would at least win something first bfore the jealously starts ;)
I think its just that this board is full of cynical smartarses who pour scorn on everything that any other county does, and begrudge all success that isn't their own i.e its representative of irish society.
Well, f**k the begrudgers!
On another note, it pisses me off that my swear words are censored - I'm an adult for fucks sake. It did it again. f**k f**k, fuckity f**k. f**k the f**king f**kers. Bastards. c***ts. Aha!!
I read in the Fermanagh Herald today that the Corner Bar in Enniskillen has been re-painted in green and white in preparation for the Ulster Final. Fair play to them. Is there much happening in the other towns in the county with regards bunting, flags etc? I would like to think most towns will make a good effort. It's not often we get to finals after all!
Was driving by St Tiernach's Park today and noticed all the exterior walls at the road end have been painted green, coincidence? When was that done? Don't think I've been to a match in Clones yet this year.
The Orangies are leading the battle for colour in the county so far from what I've seen, not the Armagh ones.
I got a look into the ground itself, and the pitch is green too. The signs are all there.
Fermanagh SeniorFixtures 15.07.08 - 22.07.08
Tuesday 15th July
Summer League Section C @ 8.00pm
Erne Gaels v Teemore
Wednesday 16th July
Summer League Section B @ 8.00pm
Roslea v Brookeboro
Friday 18th July
Fermanagh Herald SFL Div 2 @ 7.30pm
Kinawley v Aughadrumsee
Summer League @ 7.30pm
Section A
Tempo v Belcoo
Section B
Roslea v St.Patricks
Brookeboro v Newtownbutler
Section C
Enniskillen v Devenish
St.Josephs v Teemore
Irvinestown v Erne Gaels
Tuesday 22nd July
Swift Super Valu Reserve 'A' FC Semifinal @ 7.30pm
(Replays Saturday 26th July @ 6.30pm)
Teemore/Devenish v Tempo
Roslea v Lisnaskea
Swift Super Valu Reserve 'B' FC Semi-final @ 7.30pm
(Replays Saturday 26th July @ 6.30pm)
Belcoo v St.Josephs @ Irvinestown
Irvinestown v Erne Gaels @ Derrygonnelly
Well i have not said to much about the summer league but it really not been taking seriously by many clubs and the county board are also treating it with the same disdain.
Midweek games on a Tuesday and a Wednesday. One in Roslea and the other in Belleek. I am sure all teams have Belfast or Dublin based players.
Thats means some of the players will do well to be home for midnight. That just is unacceptable.
Then i see they is a Div 2 game fixed for Friday night between Kinawley and Aughadrumsee. Take it the county players will not be involved, so that will put Kinawley at a distinct disadvantage. Wonder why they have decided to play that one??
It seems to me that the club player has been sacrificed for the good of the county. I have no problem with that but if Fermanagh win on Sunday I would guess you might get a round or 2 of league fixtures in and first round of the championship played before the players are withdrawn again. If they get beat, the qualifers are in 2 weeks and that means at least a 3 week wait until the leagues/championship resumes. Either way i think the club player in fermanagh will be looking at games in October and November.
With regards the Kinawley/Aughadrumsee re-fixture, the County Board said that it has to be played before the Ulster Final otherwise both sides will get zero pts. I'm not sure whether Doherty will play or not but there were rumours that he'll be allowed too.....Bogue is injured anyway. As you say FermGael the interests of the Club player are being ignored. On another note, what about the prices of all this Fermanagh merchandise?!! Seems to me your paying well over the odds for stuff....maybe I'm just tight but they are still selling polo shirts from 04 in shops and charging about 25 quid!
I heard that the wee flags for the car cost something like £8. I certainly won't be buying them if those prices are being charged.
Seen those polo shirts from 04. you can get them on line for £20 at the gaastore. the new ones cost £29.
The big problem with the gear is it is from Gaelic gear. Was in the supporters shop over the weekend and have to say liked the look of the new drill top.
Was told that it was sold out and they had no idea when they would be getting more in.
Was told they was a huge demand for stuff but Gaelic gear could not keep up.
Fermanagh should head back to O'Neills asap.
As for Sunday, quietly confident. Have never heard so many people talking about Gaelic within the county which can only be good.
O'Rourke's team selection will be interesting and i think he will have a surprise or 2.
there are a serious amount of flags and bunting in Teemore and Derrylin, they have done the County proud!
enniskillen is being done as i type
Quote from: FermGael on July 15, 2008, 07:02:54 PM
enniskillen is being done as i type
Are there any flags and bunting going up in the town centre?
Quote from: FermPundit on July 15, 2008, 07:05:30 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 15, 2008, 07:02:54 PM
enniskillen is being done as i type
Are there any flags and bunting going up in the town centre?
Yous fellas should drive down the road and give a helping hand.
Quote from: inisceithleann on July 15, 2008, 07:12:40 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on July 15, 2008, 07:05:30 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 15, 2008, 07:02:54 PM
enniskillen is being done as i type
Are there any flags and bunting going up in the town centre?
Yous fellas should drive down the road and give a helping hand.
Town center is being done
As for giving a hand, there are enough chiefs as it is. they would not want any more
Quote from: FermPundit on July 14, 2008, 02:11:26 PM
I heard that the wee flags for the car cost something like £8. I certainly won't be buying them if those prices are being charged.
Would it have anything to do with the fact that Fermanagh is beside Cavan and the old purse strings are very tight, your county is in the ulster final decorate the town, cars, basically anything
Whats the story with the club scene now. What clubs have qualified for the knock out stages of the Summer League? are clubs still training away, challenge matches etc?
no-one seems to give a sh1t Erne Gael... all eyes on Croker
so disappointment for the county team yesterday. back to club scene now. probably be league fixtures this weekend. will championship now go ahead as planned during middle of august i think it is?
Double round of league fixtures this weekend. Friday and Sunday.
Then the 1st round of the championship the following weekend.
Enniskillen vs. Newtown
St Pat's vs. Teemore
Kinawley vs. Derrygonnelly.
Then another weekend of double league fixtures.
The weekend after that it's the quarter finals of the championship.
It's gone from a famine to a feast for the club footballers of Fermanagh
has it been confirmed that championship is on next weekend. any word of dates, venues etc?
this weekend's club fixtures have been released.
Friday 8th August
SFL @ 7.30pm
Manor House Div 1
Belcoo v Lisnaskea
St.Patricks v Newtownbutler
Derrygonnelly v Tempo
Enniskillen v Brookeborough
Devenish v Teemore
Fermanagh Herald Div 2
Irvinestown v Erne Gaels
St.Josephs v Kinawley
Roslea v Derrylin
Sunday 10th August
SFL @ 3.30pm
Manor House Div 1
St.Patricks v Tempo
Belcoo v Enniskillen
Lisnaskea v Newtownbutler
Teemore v Brookeborough
Devenish v Derrygonnelly
Fermanagh Herald Div 2
St.Josephs v Derrylin
Aughadrumsee v Kinawley
Roslea v Irvinestown
Are teams ready for these fixtures or will the break see a few disappointing matches this weekend?
Enniskillen 2-13 Brookeboro 0-10
Tempo beat Derrygonnelly by a point
Belcoo beat Skea by 3
Belcoo 1-15 Lisnaskea 2-10
St. Pat's 1-12 Newtown 1-8
Enniskillen 2-13 Brookeborough 0-10
Devenish 1-9 Teemore 2-11
Senior Football League 2
Irvinestown 1-11 Erne Gael's 1-8
St. Joe's 2-12 Kinawley 0-14
That's a big win for Ederney. Kinawley have probably blown their promotion chances with that defeat. Belcoo are still flying high at the top of division one. Newtown's disappointing form continues. I wonder how they'll perform next weekend in the championship?
Quote from: FermPundit on August 08, 2008, 10:23:59 PM
That's a big win for Ederney. Kinawley have probably blown their promotion chances with that defeat. Belcoo are still flying high at the top of division one. Newtown's disappointing form continues. I wonder how they'll perform next weekend in the championship?
Lisnaskea were 8 points up at half time :o :o
Friday 15th August, Enniskillen
7.30pm
SFC. Devenish v Tempo
Saturday 16th August, Enniskillen.
6pm
IFC. St. Joseph's v Brookeboro
7.30pm
SFC. Kinawley v Derrygonnelly
Sunday 17th August, Lisnaskea
2pm
SFC. St. Patrick's v Teemore
3.30pm
Newtownbutler v Enniskillen
Summer league final
Donagh
6.30pm
Roslea v Lisnaskea
WTF are Brookeborough doing in the IFC. They are playing in the Senior 1 league this year.
Surely this could cause problems if the happen to win the IFC.
If they advance in the Ulster IFC, you could see objections comming from other participants and they would have valid grounds.
Quote from: FermGael on August 08, 2008, 11:10:58 PM
WTF are Brookeborough doing in the IFC. They are playing in the Senior 1 league this year.
Surely this could cause problems if the happen to win the IFC.
If they advance in the Ulster IFC, you could see objections comming from other participants and they would have valid grounds.
Kinawley won the Intermediate last year so they are in the Senior Championship this year. That meant a team had to miss out on senior championship and it was Brookeboro because they finished second in division two last year. this rule is not great though as it should be a team coming down from division one who misses out on the championship this year rather than a team coming up as Roslea and Irvinestown are both in division two yet are in senior championsip with Brookeboro in division one and them not in senior championship.
Quote from: FermPundit on August 08, 2008, 10:23:59 PM
That's a big win for Ederney. Kinawley have probably blown their promotion chances with that defeat. Belcoo are still flying high at the top of division one. Newtown's disappointing form continues. I wonder how they'll perform next weekend in the championship?
Division Two is very tight, Kinawley still very much in it, joint second with St Joseph's, two points behind Roslea.
Surprised at Newtown although they were not going great in league last year if i remember correctly yet won the championship.
Senior championship is very open this year (i suppose its the same every year!), hard to say who will win it. Devenish will give it a good rattle and could go all the way. Who do you all think will win it?
Belcoo 0-08 Enniskillen 0-12
Teemore 0-12 Brookeboro 0-10
Tempo v Donagh ended in a draw
Lisnaskea beat Newtown by 2 points
any division two results from weekend
From an unreliable GAA site:
Fermanagh Herald Div 2: Irvinestown 1-11, Erne Gaels 1-8; St.Josephs 2-12, Kinawley 0-14; Roslea 0-9, Derrylin 0-6; St.Josephs 1-14, Derrylin 0-6; Aughadrumsee 2-4, Kinawley 1-8; Roslea 0-10, Irvinestown 0-7.
League tables appear to have been updated on the Kinawley website.
http://www.kinawleygfc.com/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,44/
Fair play to Kinawley for taking the time to do this.
Predictions:
SFC. Devenish v Tempo. Will be tight. Tempo, just.
IFC. St. Joseph's v Brookeboro. Brookeboro
SFC. Kinawley v Derrygonnelly. Fancy Kinawley to provide a shock here. Derrygonnelly do not seem to be firing on all cyclinders this year
SFC. St. Patrick's v Teemore. With Cadden and Maguire up front, St Pat's should have too much
Newtownbutler v Enniskillen. Will be tigher than people expect. Newtown will not get beat without a fight. Gaels to win by 2-3 points
Do not think anybody really cares about the summer league.
Predictions:
SFC. Devenish v Tempo. Hard game to call. Could see one team actually running away with, not sure which though. :-\
IFC. St. Joseph's v Brookeboro. Hesitant nod to Ederney after a good weekend.
SFC. Kinawley v Derrygonnelly. Neither side playing particularly well at the moment but if DG tie up Doherty then should be enough to nullify Kinawley.
SFC. St. Patrick's v Teemore. St Pats picking it up at the right time, but Teemore have the defence to contain their threat.
Newtownbutler v Enniskillen. Hard to look beyond the Gaels (favourites?) but NTB will push them to the finish
IFC Result
Brookeboro 1-12 Ederney 0-13
SFC Results
Tempo 1-10 Devenish 1-06
Derrygonnelly 3-12 Kinawley 0-09
The two games tomorrow have been moved as the pitch in Lisnaskea has been deemed unplayable.
Teemore v St Pat's will now take place in Brookeboro at 2pm
Enniskillen v Newtownbutler will now take place in Tempo at 4.30pm
Brutal football tonight. O'Rourke is going to have a job finding any new forwards
Anyone make the trip to Tempo?
Went along to the St Pat's v Teemore game. Donagh hammered them out of sight, about ten points in it at the end, 1-6 to 1-16 or something like that. Pat Cadden hit about 1-7 including a penalty (foul against him when he was one on one) and a few frees from around 45-yards. In saying that he hit a few bad wides as well early on but once the confidence was up he hit a few belters.
Was given man of the match but Frog was immense too, scored a sideline and a couple of other points from chb.
Eamon Maguire playing very deep but popped up for a few points and rarely wasted a ball. Curry hit a few good scores from Teemore but they were never in it, lost without the injured O'Reilly and Owens who were both just about fit to do waterboys along the line.
Lanky Donagh midfielder Cosgrove could get a look in for the county next year, must have caught 6/7 clean balls at midfield against Hugh Brady and one great one that led to a score when he moved to ff briefly. Needs to fill out and work on his shooting (like the rest of the county) but he'll probably get a trial at least, was outstanding today.
Enniskillen 0-10 Newtown 0-8.
Gaels were getting beat by 1 with about 25 minutes to go and then had Tom Brewster sent off.
But Gaels then replied and went a point up. Newtown then had Clive Fitz and Young Connolly sent off.
After than the Gaels closed the game out.
Gaels seem to have a bit of hunger in them this year. Bradley was lively up front, and Lilly and K Gunn controlled things at the back.
For Newtown Blooby played well and is county standard but sure we all know that.
Tempo have a great wee ground and set up. Fair play.
Enniskillen 0-09 Newtown 0-07.
Shocking game of football. 3 men sent off with at least 15 bookings, but it wasn't a dirty game by any means. I know Newtown havent been going well in the league but they were extremely poor today. Enniskillen weren't much better but they probably just about deserved the victory. Mickey Lilly was outstanding today yet again today. He would walk straight into the county team he wanted to. Kevin Gunn had a steady game at full back whilst Colm Bradley and Mattie Keenan worked hard throughout. The Gaels will be happy enough to get a win but they'll have to improve dramatically if they want to win the championship. Tom Brewster will probably get 4 weeks for his straight red today so they'll be up against it in the next round. Ronan McCabe went off injured early on which didn't help. Hopefully he'll be fit for the next round.
I know we have talked at length about the problems Fermanagh have in the forward line but I was at the games in Brewster Park last night as well and overall the standard of football is brutal. The simple art of kicking points has been completely lost. This is a serious, serious issue. It cost us an Ulster title and unless we do something about it soon Fermanagh football is going no where.
In fairness there was some great scores today in Brookeborough, found myself staggered as to how we could't have a man on the county team to tap over frees from even inside thirty yards when there was maybe 6/7 points today from 40+.
Who was the referee in Tempo? Looked all season like Newtown, whether they know it or not, have lost the hunger after finally landing the SFC last season. They've a relegation battle on their hands now too.
Is there any chance of Lilly coming back out for the county?
Quote from: ExiledGael on August 17, 2008, 08:33:42 PM
Who was the referee in Tempo? Looked all season like Newtown, whether they know it or not, have lost the hunger after finally landing the SFC last season. They've a relegation battle on their hands now too.
Higgins and thats all i have to say about that.
Newtown and even Teemore would need to watch because relegation is a possibility.
Quote from: ExiledGael on August 17, 2008, 08:33:42 PM
Is there any chance of Lilly coming back out for the county?
Nah, no chance of him going back to the county set up. So Enniskillen face St. Pat's in the quarter finals. 1-17 is some score to put up but just how bad were Teemore today? The Gaels have probably the best defence in the county so I don't think Pat Cadden or Eamon Maguire will get their scores as easy the next day. Are the quarter finals set for the weekend 30/31 August? I think the full draw is as follows
Enniskillen v St. Pats
Lisnaskea v Belcoo
Tempo v Roslea
Irvinestown v Derrygonnelly
Are there a full round of league games next weekend?
Heard they were that weekend alright but not certain. Teemore were poor it has to be said, apart from a few good scores from Sean Curry and a good goal to level things midway through the first half they were attrocious. Hugh Brady was totally anonymous around the middle against Cosgrove and Fergal Reilly, though Shane McDermott and Joe McGovern were also working in and around that area and that's where Donagh won it. Totally dominated midfield and used it well with Eamon Maguire playing deep in around there as well doing a lot of creating. Declan O'Reilly was wasted around his full-back line and they really missed Owens' presence and O'Reilly's frees. Hard to see Donagh throwing up a tally like that again if Cadden is well enough marked, but it's a great result for them after a woeful start to the season.
Anyone at the Ederney game? Heard Marty was sent off after the final whistle, is that right? Gormley had already been sent off.
Anybody know what happened at the edenry v Brookeborough game last weekend. There was 8 guys suspended by the county board the other nite, including marty mcgrath. Apparently mcgrath was sent off because the ref "thought" mcgrath had called him a w*nker, but at the meeting the other nite the ref said that he now thought it wasnt mcgrath, but the county board still suspended him because no-one else owned up.
I know gormely was sent off for allegedly hitting someone. At the meeting gormely had a letter from the guy he supposed to have hit saying that he hadnt hit him, but the county board threw it out because it wasnt signed in irish! I thought that documents no longer need to be signed in irish eg a sub slip doesnt have to be in irish.
Wasnt at the game, so can't comment too much. My take on it however: If youre sent off by that ref, you deserve to be sent off; he is anything but whistle happy, and seems sound too. Sounds to me like he was just trying to get McGrath off the hook.
About Gormley, when I voiced my surprise at that ref sending someone off, I was told it was down to the linesman, who I'm not gonna name, but shouldnt be near a gaelic match.
I would be sceptical about the letter being thrown out because it wasn't signed in irish, I would imagine it is no good because it could be fabrication. Most players are happy to leave it on the pitch, and even if someone committed a sending off offence against me, in most cases I would prob have no bother writing a letter for them; you'd be thinking some of their club might do the same for you some day.
I would also be surprised if Gormley didnt deserve to get sent off.
Enniskillen v Teemore ended in a draw
Newtown beat Tempo by a point
Donagh beat Brookeboro by 5
In Division two Ederney beat Kinawley
Belcoo beat Devinish by a point, 10 v 9. Think this leaves them at the top on their own now
Quote from: AidyMac on August 22, 2008, 11:33:15 PM
Belcoo beat Devinish by a point, 10 v 9. Think this leaves them at the top on their own now
Yep, that's Belcoo clear at the top. Was McCabe playing tonight? With the exception of Brookeboro, who look doomed at the bottom, all other teams are capable of beating each other. You just couldn't predict results every week. After a slow start to the league Donagh have improved greatly in the last few weeks. Apparently Eamon Maguire was particularly impressive tonight. Their championship meeting with Enniskillen next weekend should be a cracker!
Derrygonnelly beat Skea by a point.
Leaves the table as follows:
Team Points
Belcoo 14
Devenish 12
Tempo 11
Enniskillen 11
Teemore 11
Lisnaskea 10
Derrygonnelly 10
Lisnaskea 10
Donagh 9
Newtownbulter 8
Brookeborough 2 |
Very tight at the top and the bottom.
Brookeborough are gone but i think there really is no team that can say they are safe yet.
Quote from: FermGael on August 22, 2008, 11:50:58 PM
Derrygonnelly beat Skea by a point.
Leaves the table as follows:
Team Points
Belcoo 14
Devenish 12
Tempo 11
Enniskillen 11
Teemore 11
Lisnaskea 10
Derrygonnelly 10
Lisnaskea 10
Donagh 9
Newtownbulter 8
Brookeborough 2 |
Very tight at the top and the bottom.
Brookeborough are gone but i think there really is no team that can say they are safe yet.
I reckon one of the big clubs might go down this year. All may depend on how each club fare in the championship. Some players may lose interest if their club is knocked out next weekend. I don't think I can remember a division one table being as tight as this one.
McCabe didn't play tonight but is ready to play on Sunday
Are all the championship games next weekend?
Quote from: AidyMac on August 23, 2008, 12:50:10 AM
McCabe didn't play tonight but is ready to play on Sunday
Are all the championship games next weekend?
AidyMac i think that you will find that McCabe will only play if the game is on a Sunday.
He will have a soccer game on Saturday and that will have to come first if he is on the sort of money i hear he is on.
Quote from: AidyMac on August 23, 2008, 12:50:10 AM
McCabe didn't play tonight but is ready to play on Sunday
Are all the championship games next weekend?
Yep, all championship games are next weekend but I don't know if days and venues have been set yet.
On the Fermanagh GAA website the Lisnaskea v Belcoo is set for Lisnaskea next Sunday with a 2pm throw in. I'm not sure this is right. I can't see why Skea should have home advantage in a championship game.
http://www.sportsmanager.ie/t3.php?userid=11&pagestyle=combined&report=1&reporttype=mixresults&compid=6562&countyid=11&club_id=&sportid=1
Sunday 24 August
SFL Division One
Devenish 2-9 2-8 Lisnaskea
St. Patricks 1-10 1-10 Belcoo
Derrygonnelly 2-10 0-10 Teemore
Tempo 1-7 1-12 Enniskillen
Newtownbutler 0-20 2-4 Brookeboro
Team Points
Belcoo 15
Devenish 14
Enniskillen 13
Tempo 11
Teemore 11
Derrygonnelly 10
Newtownbutler 8
St. Patricks 8
Lisnaskea 8
Brookeboro 2
SFL Division Two
Erne Gaels 1-8 1-9 Roslea
Irvinestown - - St. Josephs
Derrylin 1-12 1-8 Aughadrumsee
Championship Fixtures.
Friday 29 August
SFC, at Brewster Park 7pm
Belcoo v Lisnaskea
At Brookeboro 7pm
Roslea v Tempo
Saturday 30 August
IFC, at Lisnaskea 5.30pm
Brookeboro v Aughadrumsee
SFC, 7pm
Enniskillen V St. Patrick's
Sunday 31 August
IFC, at Brewster Park, 5.30pm
Erne Gaels v Derrylin
SFC, 7pm
Irvinestown v Derrygonnelly
Congrats to seamie and duffy and all those involved with the Lisbellaw hurling team! Another great win lads
Not much chat on the Championship this weekend on here. Here's a few predictions anyway for the sake of it.
SFC Q-final: Belcoo v Lisnaskea (tonight) - have to fancy Belcoo to progress against a weird Skea team by a handful of points.
SFC Q-final: Tempo v Roslea (tonight) - Roslea have made a great start to Division Two but Tempo have coped admirably in the top tier so you'd say they should come through this by 5/6.
IFC S-final: Aghadrumsee v Brookeborough (tomorrow) - again you'd have to fancy the top tier team. Few decent county players and Aghadrumsee haven't done much in the league to suggest they could cause a shock here. Hebers by plenty.
SFC Q-final: Enniskillen v St Pat's (tomorrow) - St Pat's have improved of late and had a great result allbeit over a poor Teemore on the day. Cadden is on fire and Tom Brew is suspended but the Gaels have too much class. Has the makings of a shock but think gaels will squeeze through.
IFC S-final: Erne Gaels v Derrylin (Sunday) - Haven't seen much of either but Derrylin don't seem to have any strength in depth so Gaels by a handful.
SFC Q-final: Irvinestown v Derrygonnely (Sunday) - Shams still languishing below where they should be and Derrygonnelly haven't been great this last few weeks but they have to be favourites. Derrygonnelly by 6/7.
SFC Quarter final results
Tempo 0-13 Roslea 1-06
Lisnaskea 1-14 Belcoo 1-12
Impressive performances from Daniel Kille,Mark and Aidy Little while in the Tempo game, Ryan Keenan was dismissed for two yellows.
Further championship misery for DomnicCorrigan tonight , as his Enniskillen Gaels side were defeated 0.14 to 0.10 in the Fermanagh quarter final by St Pats Donagh , at Lisnaskea.
Poor performance from Enniskillen tonight. They were 0-12 to 0-03 down at one stage so they battled well to get it back to 0-12 to 0-10, but they didn't really look like winning it. It was a good performance from Donagh were no one individual really stood out. It was such a good all round team performance. Hunger is an important contributing factor in championship football and Donagh wanted it more tonight. With Pat Cadden, Eamon Maguire and Shane McDermott in their line up you would fancy St Pat's to go on and win the championship now. Good Luck to them
Intermediate championship tonight in Lisnaskea
Brookeboro 2-06 Aughdrumsee 0-06
SFC Quarter Final result
Derrygonnelly 2-11 Irvinestown 0-07
In the intermediate championship Erne Gaels beat Derrylin and will now face Brookeboro in the final
Good man FermPundit was wondering about the last quarter-final. So that leaves St Pat's, Tempo, Derrygonnelly and Lisnaskea in semis. Is there a draw now or how does it work.
Had a feeling St Pat's could do well but was afraid to curse them, great result yesterday.
Wide open Championship now, I guess everyone will be fancying their chances. Would be good to see Donagh getting their first ever.
The draw was suppose to take place tonight but it has been postponed until tomrrow.
St. Pat's were quite impressive last night. Pat Cadden was really good whilst Eamon Maguire roamed around the middle of the field. Gary Maguire also got through a lot of work at full forward. Without doubt Donagh are the form team left in the championship but I'd be worried if they draw Skea in the semi finals. I haven't seen Tempo in the championship this year but I hear they weren't great on Friday night. Derrygonnelly haven't really been tested this year so it's hard to say how good they are. Going on league form they can blow hot and cold from game to game. The one team I fancy for the championship is Lisnaskea. Cecil was brilliant the other night and with Mark and Aidy Little up front they will be very dangerous. It's the most open championship for years. Any one of the four teams left could win it.
True. St Pat's seem to have a severe complex when facing Skea. Just how good is Cecil? Heard quite a bit about him and he done well for the U-21s on occasions but is he anywhere near county standard? He's not the biggest of players either.
Yeah, I think Cecil is county standard. He's just after coming back from a serious knee operation but I reckon he'll get his chance next year. Malachy O'Rourke was at most of the championship games this weekend so you have to praise him for trying to unearth some talent for the county team.
Quote from: ExiledGael on August 31, 2008, 10:47:03 PM
True. St Pat's seem to have a severe complex when facing Skea. Just how good is Cecil? Heard quite a bit about him and he done well for the U-21s on occasions but is he anywhere near county standard? He's not the biggest of players either.
Fermanagh could do with a few more big men, never mind another small player.
Who played well for the Harps??
Quote from: Gold on August 31, 2008, 11:38:54 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on August 31, 2008, 10:47:03 PM
True. St Pat's seem to have a severe complex when facing Skea. Just how good is Cecil? Heard quite a bit about him and he done well for the U-21s on occasions but is he anywhere near county standard? He's not the biggest of players either.
Fermanagh could do with a few more big men, never mind another small player.
Who played well for the Harps??
I didn't get to the game but the Derrgonnelly goals came from Johnny McGurn (penalty) and Kevin McGrath. To be honest Irvinestown have been awful this year so you can't read too much into tonight's victory. The Harps could win the championship this year but they haven't really shown any real form in the league this year to suggest they will. Who knows, a lot will depend on the draw tomorrow night. If Donagh and Lisnaskea avoid each other I would fancy both teams to progress to the final.
SFC semi final draw took place tonight and is as follows -
Lisnaskea v St. Patrick's
Tempo v Derrygonnelly - Brewster Park, Saturday 13th September
Lads,
Hope you don't mind me dropping in, but I thought ye might help me with something.
In an idle few moments there I was drawing parallels between Wexford's Football odyssey this year and your own in '04.
An obvious parallel is that we both beat Armagh in the Quarter Final.
In fairness, ye got a step further by forcing a replay in the semi, but it was only Mayo ;)
Anyway my question is this:What success have Fermanagh had in the last say 25 years in Football?
I'm not having a dig, I'm just trying to extend the parallels. I'd be surprised if your record was as grim as ours ....
For example, going back 25 years before 2008, Wexford's "Roll of Honour" would read something like:
National League Div 1 Finalists 2005 - Lost to Armagh by 7 points
National league Div 2B Semi-Finalists 2003 - Lost horribly to Limerick
Leinster Finals in Senior: 0
Leinster Finals in U-21: 1 (1988 - lost to eventual AI winners Offaly after 3 replays)
Leinster Finals in Minor: 2 (1999 - lost to Meath, 1994 - lost to Dublin)
Leinster Club Finals: 0
All-Ireland Schools Finals: 2 (1999 - Good Counsel, New Ross beat Jarlath's, 1995 - Good Counsel lost to Pat's Maghera)
O'Byrne Cup Titles 1 (1995 - Drew with WH, awarded title when WH refused to play Extra Time)
Finally, to my knowledge, the entire Wexford squad of this year can probably boast the following total of honours won:
Railway Cup Medals: 1 - Matty Forde, maybe a couple of others as subs
Hogan Cup Medals: 2 - Good Counsel '99
Sigerson Cup Medals: Red Barry might have one with UCD - not sure.
Anyway, if any of you has any comparable stats, I'd appreciate it, thanks.
See yis in Wexford Park next Spring I hope ...
SFL Division one, 6th September
Brookeboro 0-03 Tempo 1-08
Enniskillen 0-15 Lisnaskea 1-13
Derrygonnelly 2-11 Belcoo 1-10
Played Points
Belcoo 11 15
Devenish 10 14
Enniskillen 11 13
Tempo 11 13
Derrygonnelly 11 12
Teemore 10 11
Lisnaskea 11 10
Newtownbutler 10 8
St. Patricks 10 8
Brookeboro 11 2
That enniskillen score is wrong.
It should read
Enniskillen 0-15 Lisnaskea 1-16
Also Devenish won. I think it was against St Pat's.
So the table is
Played Points
Devenish 10 16
Belcoo 11 15
Enniskillen 11 13
Tempo 11 13
Derrygonnelly 11 12
Teemore 10 11
Lisnaskea 11 10
Newtownbutler 10 8
St. Patricks 11 8
Brookeboro 11 2
Championship semi-final previews from the Impartial:
Lisnaskea v St. Patrick's
Sunday's meeting between St. Patrick's and Lisnaskea has all the ingredients of a great game with the neighbours set to battle it out for a place in the final.
The derby aspect to the encounter makes predicting this game all the tougher but it is a clash that both sides will feel that they have the ability to win.
St. Pat's enter Sunday's tie on the back of two superb championship performances as they claimed the scalps of Teemore Shamrocks and Enniskillen Gaels on their way to the last four.
And it was the manner of these victories that was so impressive with St. Pat's wiping the floor with Teemore and then showing plenty of grit to withstand a second half Enniskillen comeback to deservedly book their place in the semi-finals.
Sean Maguire has built a side that play with confidence and if they can continue the form they have shown in previous rounds then it will be hard to look past them claiming a first ever New York Cup.
St. Pat's though were dealt a couple of big blows over the past week with the news that they will be without Paul McManus and Kevin Maguire for the crunch game.
McManus sustained a broken collarbone against Devenish in a league game last weekend while Kevin Maguire is likely to be ruled out with a virus, and Maguire admits they will be tough men to replace.
"It's a major blow to us to lose those two players as they are important players for us and it will test the strength of our squad," said Maguire.
The foundation for St. Pat's progress in the championship this year has been their ability to win possession in the middle third and then transfer that ball into a lively forward line.
Paul Cosgrove has been a key figure for them at midfield and he has been well supported in that sector by the likes of Shane McDermott, (left, inset), Fergal O'Reilly and Joe McGovern.
And they have also shown plenty of scoring potential, ten players getting on the scoresheet against Enniskillen, and movement in attack.
Eamon Maguire obviously plays an important role for them up front but it is far from a one man band with Pat Cadden and Gary Maguire helping to form a potent attack.
If Lisnaskea are going to come through this game then they are going to have to be competitive around the middle third of the pitch. If they can do that then they have a lively forward division that will give the Donagh men plenty to think about.
Barry King will have a big part to play for Lisnaskea at midfield while they will look to the likes of Brian Og Maguire and Conor Curran to be alert to breaking balls.
Lisnaskea will certainly pose a different threat than both Teemore and Enniskillen for St. Pat's as they carry more pace and movement in all areas of the field.
At the back John Woods has been in exceptional form, even getting forward to fire over four points in last weekend's league game against Enniskillen.
They will also need to have top performances from Mark McKenna and Niall McElroy if they are to curb the St. Pat's forwards.
It is in the forward line though that Lisnaskea hold most of their aces and if they can get a good supply of ball then they will pose big problems for the St. Pat's defence.
Mark Little is crucial to the Emmetts with his ability to pop up in all areas of the field and carry the ball forward with pace and purpose while Aidy Little has also been in good form in recent weeks.
Added to that is the scoring threat of Daniel Kille, who has been a massive plus since his return from injury, and Greg O'Donnell.
This one looks like an intriguing contest between two teams who will be hungry for a spot in the final. And with it being a derby game there will be no quarter asked, and none given.
It is game that could go either way but St. Pat's have had the look of serious contenders this year and their extra power in the middle of the field should see them scrape through.
Derrygonnelly v Tempo
Derrygonnelly Harps will hope to go a step further than last year when they take on Tempo Maguires at Brewster Park on Saturday with a place in the Quinn Insurance Senior Championship final up for grabs.
The Harps fell at the semi-final hurdle last year to Teemore Shamrocks but the 2004 champions will feel that they have the necessary requirements to take them through to the decider.
However, they will be coming up against a Tempo side that is growing in confidence and with their talented young players finally beginning to make their mark at senior level they will provide a big obstacle for Derrygonnelly to overcome.
Tempo have an undoubted pool of quality young players coming up through their ranks having won all in front of them in Fermanagh at underage level and they are widely tipped to get their hands on the New York Cup in the coming years.
Whether or not it will be this year though only time will tell and they are going to have to be at their best to beat a Derrygonnelly side who have plenty of experience in their ranks, and importantly players who know what it takes to win championships.
The Harps have had a relatively easy passage to the last four with facile wins coming against two Division Two opponents in Kinawley and Irvinestown while Tempo produced a fine display to get past a fancied Devenish side in the first round before finishing strongly in their quarter-final clash against Roslea to claim a place in the semis.
For this Tempo side this is unchartered waters but they do have the ability to make it to the decider.
In attack they have players who can cause any defence problems. The twin threat of brothers Ryan Keenan and Daryl Keenan (left, inset) have the capacity to give the Derrygonnelly backline plenty of headaches with Daryl's promptings and Ryan's scoretaking ability an important part of the side's armoury.
However, there is much more to them than the Keenan brothers. Brian Jackson is an accurate forward and if needed they will call on the power of Sean Breen, while the side has the ability to pick off scores from all over the pitch.
Derrygonnelly will be aware that they cannot afford to be slack in defence but they have a number of sticky man markers in the likes of Eamon McHugh and Michael Jones who can snuff out opponents while Stephen Burns has been returning to his best form at full back in recent weeks.
The middle of the park should see an interesting battle, and if Tempo can get on top here then they could be in business. Damian Kelly will provide an abundance of energy and leadership alongside the hard working Neil Rodgers with both able to get forward and support their attack.
In saying that though they will be up against an experienced figure in Martin Greene who rarely is outplayed in the aerial battles while he will be partnered by minor star Ryan Jones. The pair dovetail well together with Greene supplying the strength and Jones the legs to get about the pitch as well as having the knack of supplying scores.
And if Derrygonnelly can get enough ball into their full forward line then they have the players to punish Tempo. Jonathan McGurn, Kevin Cassidy and Paul Ward provide menace and scoring threat and the Tempo full back line will really have to be on their toes to stop them.
Tempo will also be looking for big performances at the back from the likes of Rory Foy and Declan Campbell if they are to deny Derrygonnelly.
Derrygonnelly have yet to be tested in this year's championship campaign but they will be on Saturday. A tight game looks likely between these two sides and both will be coming into the game on the back of wins last weekend in the league.
It is Derrygonnelly's greater strength overall though that earns them the hesitant nod to go on and book their place in the decider but only by a narrow margin.
Hope the Harps win. MArty McGrath and the rest of the boys did well.
When are Boho going to make their long awaited comeback?
Cheers for keeping the league results etc.. updated Ferm Pundit.
Think the Harps will take Tempo, physically stronger and ability to score goals should be crucial. Not really sure about the other game, two attack minded teams and both have the ability to score (and concede) high scores. Though it being a derby throws all predictions out the window really.
SFC semi final, Brewster Park
Derrygonnelly 0-06 Tempo 0-04 at half time
SFC Semi Final Result
Derrygonnelly 0-15 Tempo 1-07
Derrygonnelly win Fermanagh semi - BBC Sport
Derrygonnelly qualified for the Quinn Insurance Fermanagh SFC final by beating Tempo 0-15 to 1-7 in Saturday's semi-final at Brewster Park.
After leading 0-6 to 0-4 at half-time, Derrygonnelly pulled clear in the second half.
Man of the match Paul Ward top-scored with six points for Derrygonnelly while Damien Kelly scored Tempo's late goal.
St Patrick's will take on Lisnaskea in the second semi-final on Sunday at Brewster Park (1530).
St Patrick's look capable of progressing to the decider after beating Enniskillen Gaels 0-14 to 0-10 in the last eight.
Holders Newtownbutler were beaten by Enniskillen in the opening round.
What about the 2 dismissals in this encounter were they forgotten about.
Quote from: KIDDO 4 on September 13, 2008, 09:36:39 PM
What about the 2 dismissals in this encounter were they forgotten about.
I didn't make the game but I know Ryan Keenan was sent off. Who else got the line?
Full time result SFC Semi Final
Lisnaskea 1-05 St. Patrick's 1-10
Intermediate Champrionship, Half Time
Erne Gaels 0-05 Brookeboro 0-02
Intermediate Championship Final Result
Erne Gaels 1-08 Brookeboro 0-06
Impressive performances from Shane O'Brien at midfield and Seamus Ryder at full forward. It's pleasing to see Belleek back winning championships. A proud club who should be competing for promotion at the top of division two.
Quote from: FermPundit on September 14, 2008, 08:39:14 AM
Quote from: KIDDO 4 on September 13, 2008, 09:36:39 PM
What about the 2 dismissals in this encounter were they forgotten about.
I didn't make the game but I know Ryan Keenan was sent off. Who else got the line?
Didn't see this game but a few on Hoganstand are making a big deal of an incident prior to Ryan Keenan's sending off when his brother Daryl was badly injjured in an off the ball incident. Broke collar bone apparently and big bro then got his second yellow for mouthing about it. Anyway hope Daryl can get back to make an impact with the county squad over the winter. I'm sure O'Rourke will have a lokk at him.
Of the other county men on view if O'Rourke was in Brewster yesterday he'd have been very impressed with Mark Little before his injury, Shane McDermott second half and Eamon Maguire and Paul Cosgrove all through.
After a woeful first half from the whole team Cosgrove palmed down the throw in took the return pass and fired over a brilliant point to set the tone for St Pat's second half. Not known for shooting but he has a mighty leap and fetch, but Ryan Clancy blotted him out somewhat when he came on. Thought his goal was a certain square ball though.
Anywho, no doubt the best team won. Little was a real loss for Skea and they had no real leaders or anyone to carry the fight to Donagh but they're a young side. Bad sign when all they could think of was to bring him back on though as the game slipped away. Daniel Kille was well marked and didn't make much of an impact at all. Eamon Maguire hit a real belter to put Donagh up for the first time and always seemed to pop up in possession at crucial times with McDermott and McCaffrey providing crucial strength at the back.
Should be an interesting final.
If there was ever a one man team it was Lisnaskea yesterday. Mark Little was such a dramatic loss to them at half time its unbelieveable. Skea were destroying Donagh throughout the first half and they really should have been ahead by more at the break. But St. Pat's improved greatly in the second haf and their hunger and strong individual performances from Eamon Maguire, Gary Maguire and Cosgrove saw them through. In saying this I would fear for them in the final if they don't tighten up at the back. Skea ran through in the first 25 mins and unless they get things sorted out Paul Ward, Kevin Cassidy and Kevin McGrath will score for fun against them. I was so disappointed with Daniel Kille yesterday. After all his rave comments in the earleir rounds of the championship he offered nothing in the second half when Lisnaskea really needed him. Paul Cosgrove is a great talent but there is no way he is ready for inter county football just yet. For starters he would have to be put on about 2 stone in muscle to build up his physique. However, the talent is there and hopefully the physcial stength will come with time.
In the intermediate final I was really impressed with Shane O'Brien. He definitely deserves a trail with the county set up.
St Patrick's were tipped by very few to get to the final but they are there on merit and have every chance of winning it. Will be a hard final to call and really could go either way. St Patrick's will be very determined to get their first title win though. Eamon Maguire is the key man who they look for a lot of the time and if Derrygonnelly can get someone to mark him they have a great chance. I thought Skea had the game won in the first half and was just a matter of getting a couple more scores in the second half to win it but it wasn't to be.
Didn't get to the Derrygonnelly Tempo game. Didn't think Derrygonnelly would win by as much. Was there that much difference bewteen the teams? Also a lot of discussion on the ref, who was the ref and how did he perform?
Good to see Erne Gaels win the Intermediate. Can this group of players push for higher honours in the future?
We're slipping away badly here. Anyone hear the Division One results today?
have devenish or tempo got any potential county senior or u21 players this year??
Tempo would have Daryl Keenan from St Mick's McRory team but he broke a collarbone a few weeks back so won't play for a few months I'd reckon. There's another Foy lad in the half-back line possible for the U21s too. They've produced a lot of strong minor teams lately and haven't been home to see them so would expect a few more too. Seem to have a problem with the progression to senior though. Ryan Keenan and Damien Kelly will be in and around the senior county team.
As for Devenish they had Barry Mulrone who was on the senior panel at the start of the year. He's around 21 but unsure if he's eligible at U21. Few O'Flanaghan brothers play on the team and could be close to U21 squad, few of them played McRory with St Mick's also.
oh right ok! heard about two nippy corner fowards from devenish think they play for st micks too but wasnt sure of names!
SFL Division one
Teemore 0-10 Lisnaskea 0-13
Tempo 0-13 Belcoo 0-07
Brookeboro 1-06 Devenish 1-16
Enniskillen v St. Patricks - Conceded by St Patrick's
SFL Division two
Kinawley 2-06 Irvinestown 2-11
Aughadrumsee 1-05 St. Joseph's 2-12
Derrylin 2-09 Erne Gaels 1-14
Division one table
Played Points
Devenish 12 18
Enniskillen 12 15
Tempo 12 15
Belcoo 12 15
Derrygonnelly 12 12
Newtownbutler 12 12
Lisnaskea 12 12
Teemore 12 11
St. Patricks 12 8
Brookeboro 12 2
Divison two table
Played Points
St. Josephs 10 16
Roslea 9 16
Kinawley 9 10
Irvinestown 10 8
Derrylin 10 8
Erne Gaels 9 6
Aughadrumasee 9 2
Conceded by St Pat's?? What the hell is that all about. Presume it's because of the Championship final next week but I'm amazed you're allowed to do that. Know they've suffered a lot of injuries in last few weeks but that's a bit much in the middle of a relegation battle. Will they be punished for that?
Suppose we'll know next week whether it was a good or a bad idea.
Quote from: ExiledGael on September 28, 2008, 11:03:38 PM
Conceded by St Pat's?? What the hell is that all about. Presume it's because of the Championship final next week but I'm amazed you're allowed to do that. Know they've suffered a lot of injuries in last few weeks but that's a bit much in the middle of a relegation battle. Will they be punished for that?
Suppose we'll know next week whether it was a good or a bad idea.
If they win the Championship it will be worth it. Strange seeing they are second from bottom and are in a relegation battle. But you can see their point of view. They may not have won the match anyway and could have picked up injuries or suspensions from the game. In saying that a compeitive match a week before a final is not a bad thing either and also they won't have played a competitive game for three weeks when they play the final next week.
I would say they would not mind one bit if they get relegated if they can win their first championship.
Quote from: FermPundit on September 28, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
SFL Division one
Teemore 0-10 Lisnaskea 0-13
Tempo 0-13 Belcoo 0-07
Brookeboro 1-16 Devenish 1-16
Enniskillen v St. Patricks - Conceded by St Patrick's
Division one table
Played Points
Devenish 12 18
Enniskillen 12 15
Tempo 12 15
Belcoo 12 15
Derrygonnelly 12 12
Newtownbutler 12 12
Lisnaskea 12 12
Teemore 12 11
St. Patricks 12 8
Brookeboro 12 2
Probably just a typing error there FermPundit but that game was a 1-16 to 1-6 win for Devenish.
Opps, thanks, I've amended the scoreline.
I'm not sure if teams are allowed to concede games? I presume Donagh received guidance from the county board before making this decision. If they don't win next week I reckon they'll go down with Brookeboro. Although the county final is massive for the club they aren't exactly in a very healthy position in the league and they can ill afford to throw away 2 league points. Regardless of the result next weekend they find themselves in relegation battle. Teemore seem to be on very poor run of form as well. It looks like its between Donagh and Teemore to join Boro in division two next year.
Quote from: FermPundit on September 28, 2008, 11:21:47 PM
Opps, thanks, I've amended the scoreline.
I'm not sure if teams are allowed to concede games? I presume Donagh received guidance from the county board before making this decision. If they don't win next week I reckon they'll go down with Brookeboro. Although the county final is massive for the club they aren't exactly in a very healthy position in the league and they can ill afford to throw away 2 league points. Regardless of the result next weekend they find themselves in relegation battle. Teemore seem to be on very poor run of form as well. It looks like its between Donagh and Teemore to join Boro in division two next year.
Firstly I think it is a disgrace that the county board fixed games the week before the championship final for teams involved in the final. A silly decision
Secondly the Gaels had a team lined out and the referee was there, so I would doubt if they took any advice from the county board.
I think that St Pat's will have to lose the points because Derrygonnelly played their game. If Derrygonnelly had not played, then maybe the county board would have re-fixed the games. But that is not an option now.
Also the county board and the people who plan fixtures need to take a long look at themselves. That decision, coupled with the decision to play a full round of reserve fixtures on Saturday evening at 5 is madness. They were no reserve fixtures during the summer because Coa had one panel member on the county panel. One PANEL member holds up the entire reserve league 1 in Fermanagh for nearly 2 months. Madness. Could they not have played away without the club involved and let them make up the games at a later date.
Now they fix them for 5 on a Saturday which just happens to be the same time that the Fermanagh and Western games finish at. This is a huge problem for most clubs in the county (not just the Gaels) as most reserve players play soccer in the winter and Gaelic in the summer. Players should not be forced to choose especially as its only reserve. Just another example of the county board doing everything it can to kill of Gaelic in the towns. Great forward thinking.
Quote from: FermGael on September 29, 2008, 09:49:54 AM
Quote from: FermPundit on September 28, 2008, 11:21:47 PM
Opps, thanks, I've amended the scoreline.
I'm not sure if teams are allowed to concede games? I presume Donagh received guidance from the county board before making this decision. If they don't win next week I reckon they'll go down with Brookeboro. Although the county final is massive for the club they aren't exactly in a very healthy position in the league and they can ill afford to throw away 2 league points. Regardless of the result next weekend they find themselves in relegation battle. Teemore seem to be on very poor run of form as well. It looks like its between Donagh and Teemore to join Boro in division two next year.
Firstly I think it is a disgrace that the county board fixed games the week before the championship final for teams involved in the final. A silly decision
Secondly the Gaels had a team lined out and the referee was there, so I would doubt if they took any advice from the county board.
I think that St Pat's will have to lose the points because Derrygonnelly played their game. If Derrygonnelly had not played, then maybe the county board would have re-fixed the games. But that is not an option now.
Also the county board and the people who plan fixtures need to take a long look at themselves. That decision, coupled with the decision to play a full round of reserve fixtures on Saturday evening at 5 is madness. They were no reserve fixtures during the summer because Coa had one panel member on the county panel. One PANEL member holds up the entire reserve league 1 in Fermanagh for nearly 2 months. Madness. Could they not have played away without the club involved and let them make up the games at a later date.
Now they fix them for 5 on a Saturday which just happens to be the same time that the Fermanagh and Western games finish at. This is a huge problem for most clubs in the county (not just the Gaels) as most reserve players play soccer in the winter and Gaelic in the summer. Players should not be forced to choose especially as its only reserve. Just another example of the county board doing everything it can to kill of Gaelic in the towns. Great forward thinking.
Yeah, I agree, it wasn't the best decision to fix the games at 5 on a Saturday but the county board will argue that they are struggling to get all fixtures completed and with the fading light they had little alternative but to fix games at this time. On many occasions I had to choose between Gaelic and Soccer and it's a hateful decision to have to make. The decision of the county board to postpone all Erne Cup division one games in the early part of the summer because of Coa's sole county panelist was just stupid.
what about the county Final on Sunday lads, big crows expected at Brewster for what should be a good game.
I know Derrygonnelly will be hungry but St Pats will be ravenous to win their first New York Gold Cup
Not much debate about the games on here, suppose they're smaller clubs and we haven't the posters involved.
St Pat's are going for the U16 title as well against an excellent Belanaleck team in the first game on Sunday.
Seniors should be a fascinating game, should make it down for both. Would obviously be good to see St Pat's win a first ever senior Championship. Bit of a Jimmy White about them, losing six finals I think in the past. Who's the senior ref? Could be quite important.
Personally can't see past St Pats, but have only seen them once this year. Is there any injuries etc for either side?
According to local papers St Pat's are without Paul McManus who broke a collarbone, Fergal O'Reilly who broke a foot and Kevin Maguire with a virus of some sort. Probably why they didn't field against Gaels last week. Think Derrygonnelly are 100%.
All reserve games called off this weekend.
Wonder what was behind that??
Would love to see Derrygonnelly getting beat but think they will have to much for St Pat's. Cassidy and the Wards will rip St Pat's to threads.
St. Patrick's 0-07 Derrygonnelly 0-03 at half time.
Belanaleck defeated St. Patrick's in the U16 Championship final
St. Patrick's 0-11 Derrygonnelly Harps 0-10
There'll be some party in Donagh tonight.
Congratulations to St Patricks's on winning their first ever senior championship
Deserved victory, although the Harps could have got a draw at the death.
Maguire and Cadden were very good for St Pats in the 1st half--St Pats could have been out of sight at this stage as Cadden put a penalty wide and other goal opportunities were spurned. The Harps were atrocious in the 1st half and Kevin Cassidy kept them in it feeding off scraps and scoring 2 good points from play. The ref was giving Pats and Maguire in particular handy frees when he was barely touched but could have also given Pats a 2nd penalty but didnt.
2nd half Pats started the brighter courtesy of a point from a free for a nothing 'foul' on Maguire again. Pats looked like they were going to walk it then but the game turned when Harps midfielder Greene stopped his opposite number Cosgove with a high elbow that ruled the towering Pats midfielder out of the game at the start of the 2nd half and unbelevably the Ref only gave a shocked Greene a yellow card for a 'tackle' that Francie Bellew wouldnt have made.
Kevin Cassidy then came into his own and hit some class points including one off the outside of his left boot. Paul Ward was introduced and he and Cassidy chipped on further scores to close the gap but they could never level despite 6 minutes of injury time and the game finished 0-10 to 0-9.
Paul Ward was apparantly injured yet he was kicking points during the pre-match warm up and was flying in the last 20 minutes. If he was on earlier to give Cassidy a hand the Haros might have nicked it but fair play to St Pats who had a better all round team performance on the day and deserved their 1st SFC victory.
Good to see St Pat's get their first Champ[ionship yesterday, you could see how much it meant to them towards the end. They were playing poorly after losing Cosgrove and just diving on every ball to try to hold on. Eamon Maguire and Shane McDermott really stood out as the leaders during that period always demanding and holding on to the ball. Frog came charging out of defence time after time just throwing people off him. Pat Cadden claimed a few good balls as well and seems to have really strengthened up from his time on the county panel, he hit a very poor penalty though. Ref was quite fussy but thought he was fair, just that St Pat's controlled the game for 40 odd minutes and held soo much possession.
Was disgusted at Green's foul on Cosgrove. I know teams are obviously told to target players but that's another potential county player now left with a broken collarbone after a dangerous challenge. He's no hope of playing in the Ulster series and that's the kind of shite that make these new disciplinary rules seem worthwhile. Something similar happened Daryl Keenan a few weeks back, also against Derrygonnelly, and two obvious county call-ups probably won't play now for months.
Cosgrove wasn't claiming many balls at midfield but was given 3/4 frees for pushing and stopped them winning any. After he was forced off the Harps picked up almost every kick-out until the final whistle.
Surprised Paul Ward didn't start and he looked in fine shape when he came on but obviously something was keeping him from starting. Kevin Cassidy up front kept the Harps in it, he's a fine left foot, but he was really on his own. The other Ward was not in the game at any stage and over the course of the game St Pat's had the more dominant figures who deserved something for thier efforts.
Wasn't a great game and wasn't helped by two lengthy injuries in each half which seemed to stop any rhythm building. Fair play to St Pat's, they had to do it sometime with players of the class of Maguire there but I'd worry for them in Crossmaglen.
They'll probably not give a shit anyway after this I'm sure they'll go on the lash for about a week, but without Cosgrove now too for Ulster can't see them progressing any further than any of our representatives have since Enniskillen.
I fear will Donagh will get an almighty hammering by Crossmaglen (provided they win Armagh) in the Ulster Championship. I'm very disappointed to hear about the injury to Paul Cosgrove. Hopefully he'll make a speedy recovery. Overall I think the standard in the Fermanagh championship has been really poor this year. Fair play to St Pat's for winning their first championship but what does it say about Fermanagh club football when a team sitting second bottom of Division one win the championship?
Quote from: FermPundit on October 06, 2008, 07:20:59 PM
I fear will Donagh will get an almighty hammering by Crossmaglen (provided they win Armagh) in the Ulster Championship. I'm very disappointed to hear about the injury to Paul Cosgrove. Hopefully he'll make a speedy recovery. Overall I think the standard in the Fermanagh championship has been really poor this year. Fair play to St Pat's for winning their first championship but what does it say about Fermanagh club football when a team sitting second bottom of Division one win the championship?
The Gaels have been doing that for years!!
Would that fella Maguire not be worth a crack at the county team? (Derrygonnelly no. 14)
Just saw highlights on TG4 and he looked pretty good.
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 06, 2008, 08:18:33 PM
Would that fella Maguire not be worth a crack at the county team? (Derrygonnelly no. 14)
Just saw highlights on TG4 and he looked pretty good.
I think the player you're on about is Derrygonnelly's full forward Kevin (Kevs) Cassidy. He's one of best forwards in Fermanagh club football but I can't remember him ever playing for the county. I think he has been asked on a number of occasions to go to trails but he hasn't shown any interest. He's 30+ now so unfortuantely we'll have to look at alternative options to cure our problems in the forward line.
Quote from: FermPundit on October 06, 2008, 09:21:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 06, 2008, 08:18:33 PM
Would that fella Maguire not be worth a crack at the county team? (Derrygonnelly no. 14)
Just saw highlights on TG4 and he looked pretty good.
I think the player you're on about is Derrygonnelly's full forward Kevin (Kevs) Cassidy. He's one of best forwards in Fermanagh club football but I can't remember him ever playing for the county. I think he has been asked on a number of occasions to go to trails but he hasn't shown any interest. He's 30+ now so unfortuantely we'll have to look at alternative options to cure our problems in the forward line.
Listen, he was the best scoring forward on show yesterday bar none. He may be 33 but he would be fit to play a year--if he played this year they may have beaten Kildare and maybe Armagh, who knows they may not have and he may not be good enough, but if i was Fermanagh manager id be round at his house asking him to play.
Cadden looked to have seriously bulked up and looks the part too, Eamonn Maguire also looked to have bulked up and was much to strong for Harps backs trying to stop him.
Hey guys, can anyone see anyone knew breaking into the fermanagh XV next year? I didn't get to see a lot of club championship games this year so don't really know who stood out but some people have talked about paul ward from Derrygonnely very highly.
Still doesnt appear to be any solution at FF though. If we had another midfielder then perhaps we could throw murphy in there.
Whats the situation with Owens??
Heard recently that Barry Owens' knee was a lot more damaged than originally thought. The op was more complicated and the recovery will be also. Ligaments were almost ruined. But he'll be back, believe his wedding is some of these weeks and he's really dedicated to the game and the county.
As for potential call-ups we've discussed a few in the last few pages here. Kevin Cassidy could be worth a look up front as could Seamus Quigley from Roslea but Cassidy (Derrygonnelly) is in his thirties now and Quigley (Roslea) has a few wild oats to sow before he'll settle enough for county football.
Paul Ward has a real chance as does Pat Cadden from St Pat's, both very incisive, skillfull left footed forwards, possible Cadden having a bit more strength about him. St Pat's midfielder Paul Cosgrove was by all accounts their player of the year but was cynically taken out at the weekend in the final and has a badly broken collarbone. He's young though and will get a real look in for the county, needs to maybe add a few stone though he has plenty of time on his side. Tempo and St Mick's forward Daryl Keenan, brother of Ryan, is another certain to get a trial at least, but he too had his collar bone broken lately. Looking at him in the MacRory final he seemed a very clever player, perhaps even a playmaker, though that may have been as he was held back by injury. Certain future county player though.
Apparently James Sherry has been in superb form for Roslea lately, papers locally proclaiming his performance in drubbing Ederney as his finest ever for the club. He's playing around the middle and could grow into that position, but as I've said before I'm not sure he's anywhere near hateful enough for the midfield battles in Ulster.
Ryan Carson (blobby) has started playing well for Newtown of late as they've picked up a few results and maybe O'Rourke could talk him into playing but think his work prevented that in the past. Undoubtedly a Fermanagh player if you could get him committed.
From all the club games I have seen this year there hasn't been too many players that have stood out. In addition to the players mentioned already I would like to see Daniel Kille get at least a trail. I was disappointed in his performance against Donagh in the championship semi final but by all accounts he has played all year so he's probably worth a look. Shane O'Brien from Belleek was impressive in the intermediate final so I'm sure he'll get a trail as well. Seamus Quigley would be an excellent option to have up front but we have talked at length about his lack of commitment so I'm not 100% sure if Malachy O'Rourke will be giving him a call. Enda Ferris is Ederney's best forward so I'm sure he'll get a trail as well. Given our limited resources and small player pool I don't think anyone will slip through the net. Malachy O'Rourke was had most championship matches so I'm sure if there are any players worthy of a call up he'll give them a call.
Cheers guys. I really don't think Ferris has what it takes to be an inter-county footballer, and I also agree that James Sherry is nowhere near nasty enough. However, I could certainly see him doing a job at FF. He is a great fielder.
Hopefully Owens will be back for the championship next year. We also will have Bogue and Ciaran O'Reilly back as well (Both underrated IMO).
I just feel once again the FF will be a problem. No-one has been able to fill the role since Stevie Maguire left the panel, and to be honest maybe there's no-one in the county capable of doing that job as effectively as he did.
I know there's a separate thread for the ulster championship draw but from a purely Fermanagh perspective how do we feel? I think Down will be difficult, but if we do get passed them then another final appearance could be on the cards. I know people wished we weren't in the preliminary round but perhaps it will be to our advantage to have played another championship game if we meet Donegal in the semis.
SFL Division One
Enniskillen 0-13 Tempo 1-12
Belcoo 0-13 St. Patrick's 1-11
SFL Division Two
Derrylin 0-02 Kinawley 1-13
Erne Gaels 0-09 St. Joseph's 2-10
What the hell were Derrylin at for 70 minutes? Ederney seem to be really flying, will be interesting to see them in the top flight next year.
Great result for St Pat's but absolutely essential. How many teams go down? Thought they could be a bit the worse for ware after the past week.
Quote from: ExiledGael on October 12, 2008, 05:33:39 PM
What the hell were Derrylin at for 70 minutes? Ederney seem to be really flying, will be interesting to see them in the top flight next year.
Great result for St Pat's but absolutely essential. How many teams go down? Thought they could be a bit the worse for ware after the past week.
A bit of a row at the end of the Derrylin v Kinawley match. 4 men sent off apparently.
Two teams relegated from divison one, Brookeboro already gone. Roslea and Ederney promoted from Division two.
Lisnaskea 1-09 Devenish 1-11
Brookeboro 0-07 Newtown 1-12
Teemore 1-11 Derrygonnelly 1-04
SFL Division One
Devenish 13 20
Tempo 13 17
Enniskillen 13 15
Belcoo 13 15
Newtownbutler 13 14
Teemore 13 13
Derrygonnelly 13 12
Lisnaskea 13 12
St. Patricks 13 10
Brookeboro 13 2
SFL Division Two
Roslea 0-11 Aughadrumsee 1-06
Roslea 11 20
St. Josephs 12 18
Kinawley 11 14
Irvinestown 11 10
Derrylin 11 8
Erne Gaels 11 6
Aughadrumasee 11 2
SFL Div 1
Brookeborough 0-10 Enniskillen 2-11
Leaves the table looking like this
Devenish 13 20
Tempo 13 17
Enniskillen 14 17
Belcoo 13 15
Newtownbutler 13 14
Teemore 13 13
Derrygonnelly 13 12
Lisnaskea 13 12
St. Patricks 13 10
Brookeboro 14 2
As far as i can see. Brookeborough are relegated. Devenish are the only other team safe from relegation.
Really anybody else can still make the league final or get relegated
I presume it's 18 games apiece? Should be some Championship type games over the next few weeks.
Apparently Marty McGrath has been called up to the International Rules team after Bernard Brogan pulled out, don't know whether that's good or bad news for Fermanagh but congrats anyway. What a year he's had, the man could write a book.
Any results from todays games?
Heard nothing so far but seen this today and thought it was worth posting. I'd post it on the main thread but it seem more in keeping with the man not to draw too much attention.
Iron man's toughest test
Kieran Shannon Gaelic Games Editor
HE was the coolest man in all of Omagh. Fermanagh had just stunned the national league champions Derry and the entire football world to qualify for only their fourth-ever Ulster final. Yet as that wave of humanity and emotion crashed onto that pitch, Marty McGrath just calmly paved his way through to underneath the main stand.
At half-time, though they trailed by two points, Malachy O'Rourke had told them they were going to win and that once they had they were to take it in their stride and avoid over-celebrating; their target all year had been to win an Ulster final, not reach one. Then, over by the tunnel, he came across team trainer Leo 'Dropsy' McBride. For all McBride's training-ground intensity he had an earthy, imperturbable manner that made it easy for players to relate to and confide in him, so with all this hysteria about the Ulster final already swirling around them, McGrath let McBride in a secret.
"I don't know if I'm going to be about for this Ulster final, Dropsy."
Minutes later in the dressing room he informed O'Rourke. Around the time of the Monaghan game he'd noticed that there was "something a bit tender around there". Then, the Tuesday before the Derry game, he had been diagnosed with testicular cancer and told that he'd have to go for an operation urgently. Only management was to know. Outside them, only his immediate family, fiancé, and team doctor, Tom Kiernan, knew. Roisín couldn't even tell her parents, let alone McGrath tell his teammates. He didn't want anyone getting unnecessarily upset or distracted by some 'will he-won't he play' saga. O'Rourke and McBride could have been forgiven for immediately thinking the impact it would have on Fermanagh's Ulster title hopes but their thoughts centred around the player. His welfare, his stoicism, his courage.
That week he would have trained and played knowing he had cancer. That evening he had won the toss yet elected to play against the wind; the way McGrath had figured it, that would turn it into a real battle which was what he and Fermanagh relished. Just minutes later Enda Muldoon had thundered into him with a ferocious side-to-side challenge that caused both men to fall to the ground and the whole of Omagh to shudder, but though it left McGrath rattled for most of that first half, it would become very clear as the evening transpired that Muldoon had come out second best in that collision.
Then, of course, there had been his heart surgery, and, as he puts himself, "the fight with a digger which I lost badly". Now this. About the only tender thing about McGrath was the area that was causing him concern, everywhere else the man was clearly made of granite, but how much more could he endure?
McGrath dealt with it the only way he knew. To keep it in perspective, keep cool and keep his sense of humour. He once said of those heart operations, "It's strange looking round and them operating. They have you relaxing at the start. I looked at my pulse and it was 46 and I was thinking, 'Jesus, I must be fair fit.' Midway through I looked at the pulse again and it was 240. I was glad I got through the second one because it was tough but sure that's only at the time."
As for that famous fight with the bucket of that JCB on the home farm? At first he thought the driver had lobbed some of his lunch at him so he roared back, "What the f***k are you throwing apples at me for?" When he arrived at the hospital, the doctor didn't know what a digger was and wasn't going to do a scan as it would mean calling someone in on a Saturday evening. "Glad he did though," McGrath would later recall, "because it [his jawbone] was fractured."
That's why he wasn't and isn't "going to make a big deal out" of his latest health scare.
"It wasn't a particularly nasty form of cancer, it was a treatable one. It had been detected in good time and there was a good recovery rate so I wasn't that concerned. Probably the worst part was that Roisín had no one else to talk to about it but I never thought for a minute that it would kill me or anything. In fairness to the management, they were saying 'Look after yourself first' but I said, 'Well, football is a big thing to me too.' The operation was pencilled in for the Wednesday after the Ulster final. Win or lose, McGrath would be on that table.
A couple of minutes into the second half a Ronan Clarke goal left Fermanagh trailing Armagh by eight points but then McGrath landed a couple of monstrous points and catches to inspire one of the comebacks of the year and force a replay. The operation was pushed out for another week. Then, after the manner of that defeat, for another two weeks. The Monday week after Fermanagh's loss to Kildare, McGrath was successfully operated upon in a Derry hospital. It would only be after he'd won the Ulster Player of the Year award that his summer condition became public.
By then he was trying out with the International Rules team. A few weeks after the operation Anthony Tohill called wondering why he hadn't shown up at any of the trials. The simple truth was Tohill's call was the first he had been told about them, but as he was recovering from the operation, "that suited me the best, especially with me being a bit wary of this scar". The following week McGrath was down in Parnell Park, battling again with Dermot Earley on that field, while learning off it how Earley himself had battled the same form of cancer.
Two weeks ago a wrecked McGrath took a call on his sofa from Sean Boylan. He was only on the standby panel for Australia. It was something of an achievement when neither Earley nor his own countymen Ryan McCluskey and Mark Murphy had made that, but McGrath couldn't help feeling "a bit disappointed", especially when he'd made the team in 2004. Last Thursday at three o'clock though it was Boylan again. Bernard Brogan was staying home to help his club win the county championship. McGrath was heading Down Under.
It meant a frantic 24 hours, getting the passport sent up to Croke Park, securing the visa, getting work to cover for him, all before dashing down to the Citywest for the All Stars. He'll miss Barry Owens' wedding too. On Thursday night Mark Little texted him that Fermanagh were on the look out for a new captain, now that he was going to be missing Owens' big day. McGrath quipped back, "I never liked that boy anyway!" but the truth is no one else in football can empathise with Owens more. Between their heart surgery, Owens' cartilage and cruciate operations, and McGrath's fight with that digger and cancer scare, they've been knocked down time and time again. And yet, they keep coming back, living strong, dying hard. It's the way these two Fermanagh men are. Not nearly men but iron men. Until they win Ulster they won't rest.
"If you look at where we were this time last year, a vast improvement was made in 2008. But at half-time of the Ulster final replay maybe all that talk you'd heard among your own [community] about the wides the first day seeped through and we made Armagh believe they could win more than ourselves. When we again wasted so much possession against Kildare, it wore boys down. But that's something you learn from, to keep playing through those bad patches like we had in earlier games. Maybe if we had that second week we'd have been fresher but we didn't and that's football.
"Boys are looking forward to going back to it a lot more than they were this time last year. I thought we, especially Clucker [McCluskey], should have won an All Star but maybe it's good we didn't because it makes boys hungrier. Fermanagh still isn't recognised yet. We have to get that Ulster title to get that respect."
For now he has two imminent opponents – Australia and cancer. This Irish team mightn't have the flair that the 2004 side did with players like Ciaran McDonald and Brian McGuigan, but it's mobile and strong and in runner Sean Marty Lockhart has a wealth of knowledge about the hybrid game that McGrath hugely values. As for the cancer, he'll go for a check-up every three months for the next year; then, hopefully, every six months. That's all he can do, all he can control.
"This summer it really helped to have the football. It helps you appreciate what you missed. Football has always been there for me. Those other things, sure you always get over them and get on with it."
So don't feel sorry for him. As he'd say himself, it's no big deal. If anything reserve your sympathy for that poor old digger, cancer and Muldoon – and maybe the odd misguided AFL footballer this next fortnight.
kshannon@tribune.ie
Newtownbutler 0-9 2-2 St. Patricks
Teemore 1-11 1-8 Devenish
Tempo - - Derrygonnelly Tempo Not played
Lisnaskea 1-9 1-9 Belcoo
Leaves the League table looking like this
Devenish 14 20
Tempo 13 17
Enniskillen 14 17
Newtownbutler 14 16
Belcoo 14 16
Teemore 14 15
Lisnaskea 14 13
Derrygonnelly 13 12
St. Patricks 14 10
Brookeboro 14 2
Rounds of games left to be played:
Enniskillen - - Newtownbutler
St. Patricks - - Lisnaskea
Devenish - - Tempo
Belcoo - - Teemore
Derrygonnelly - - Brookeboro
Derrygonnelly - - Enniskillen
Devenish - - Newtownbutler
Belcoo - - Brookeboro
St. Patricks - - Teemore
Lisnaskea - - Tempo
Tempo - - Teemore
Brookeboro - - Lisnaskea
Newtownbutler - - Belcoo
Enniskillen - - Devenish
Derrygonnelly - - St. Patricks
Belcoo - - Devenish
Lisnaskea - - Derrygonnelly
St. Patricks - - Brookeboro
Tempo - - Newtownbutler
Teemore - - Enniskillen
And the one game in hand is
Tempo - - Derrygonnelly
Quote from: FermGael on October 20, 2008, 10:46:56 AM
Newtownbutler 0-9 2-2 St. Patricks
I hear there were quite a few players sent off yesterday. I thought Donagh wouldn't have wanted to get involved in any off the ball stuff with the Ulster Championship against Cross coming up.
Quote from: ExiledGael on October 19, 2008, 09:28:59 PM
Heard nothing so far but seen this today and thought it was worth posting. I'd post it on the main thread but it seem more in keeping with the man not to draw too much attention.
Iron man's toughest test
Kieran Shannon Gaelic Games Editor
HE was the coolest man in all of Omagh. Fermanagh had just stunned the national league champions Derry and the entire football world to qualify for only their fourth-ever Ulster final. Yet as that wave of humanity and emotion crashed onto that pitch, Marty McGrath just calmly paved his way through to underneath the main stand.
At half-time, though they trailed by two points, Malachy O'Rourke had told them they were going to win and that once they had they were to take it in their stride and avoid over-celebrating; their target all year had been to win an Ulster final, not reach one. Then, over by the tunnel, he came across team trainer Leo 'Dropsy' McBride. For all McBride's training-ground intensity he had an earthy, imperturbable manner that made it easy for players to relate to and confide in him, so with all this hysteria about the Ulster final already swirling around them, McGrath let McBride in a secret.
"I don't know if I'm going to be about for this Ulster final, Dropsy."
Minutes later in the dressing room he informed O'Rourke. Around the time of the Monaghan game he'd noticed that there was "something a bit tender around there". Then, the Tuesday before the Derry game, he had been diagnosed with testicular cancer and told that he'd have to go for an operation urgently. Only management was to know. Outside them, only his immediate family, fiancé, and team doctor, Tom Kiernan, knew. Roisín couldn't even tell her parents, let alone McGrath tell his teammates. He didn't want anyone getting unnecessarily upset or distracted by some 'will he-won't he play' saga. O'Rourke and McBride could have been forgiven for immediately thinking the impact it would have on Fermanagh's Ulster title hopes but their thoughts centred around the player. His welfare, his stoicism, his courage.
That week he would have trained and played knowing he had cancer. That evening he had won the toss yet elected to play against the wind; the way McGrath had figured it, that would turn it into a real battle which was what he and Fermanagh relished. Just minutes later Enda Muldoon had thundered into him with a ferocious side-to-side challenge that caused both men to fall to the ground and the whole of Omagh to shudder, but though it left McGrath rattled for most of that first half, it would become very clear as the evening transpired that Muldoon had come out second best in that collision.
Then, of course, there had been his heart surgery, and, as he puts himself, "the fight with a digger which I lost badly". Now this. About the only tender thing about McGrath was the area that was causing him concern, everywhere else the man was clearly made of granite, but how much more could he endure?
McGrath dealt with it the only way he knew. To keep it in perspective, keep cool and keep his sense of humour. He once said of those heart operations, "It's strange looking round and them operating. They have you relaxing at the start. I looked at my pulse and it was 46 and I was thinking, 'Jesus, I must be fair fit.' Midway through I looked at the pulse again and it was 240. I was glad I got through the second one because it was tough but sure that's only at the time."
As for that famous fight with the bucket of that JCB on the home farm? At first he thought the driver had lobbed some of his lunch at him so he roared back, "What the f***k are you throwing apples at me for?" When he arrived at the hospital, the doctor didn't know what a digger was and wasn't going to do a scan as it would mean calling someone in on a Saturday evening. "Glad he did though," McGrath would later recall, "because it [his jawbone] was fractured."
That's why he wasn't and isn't "going to make a big deal out" of his latest health scare.
"It wasn't a particularly nasty form of cancer, it was a treatable one. It had been detected in good time and there was a good recovery rate so I wasn't that concerned. Probably the worst part was that Roisín had no one else to talk to about it but I never thought for a minute that it would kill me or anything. In fairness to the management, they were saying 'Look after yourself first' but I said, 'Well, football is a big thing to me too.' The operation was pencilled in for the Wednesday after the Ulster final. Win or lose, McGrath would be on that table.
A couple of minutes into the second half a Ronan Clarke goal left Fermanagh trailing Armagh by eight points but then McGrath landed a couple of monstrous points and catches to inspire one of the comebacks of the year and force a replay. The operation was pushed out for another week. Then, after the manner of that defeat, for another two weeks. The Monday week after Fermanagh's loss to Kildare, McGrath was successfully operated upon in a Derry hospital. It would only be after he'd won the Ulster Player of the Year award that his summer condition became public.
By then he was trying out with the International Rules team. A few weeks after the operation Anthony Tohill called wondering why he hadn't shown up at any of the trials. The simple truth was Tohill's call was the first he had been told about them, but as he was recovering from the operation, "that suited me the best, especially with me being a bit wary of this scar". The following week McGrath was down in Parnell Park, battling again with Dermot Earley on that field, while learning off it how Earley himself had battled the same form of cancer.
Two weeks ago a wrecked McGrath took a call on his sofa from Sean Boylan. He was only on the standby panel for Australia. It was something of an achievement when neither Earley nor his own countymen Ryan McCluskey and Mark Murphy had made that, but McGrath couldn't help feeling "a bit disappointed", especially when he'd made the team in 2004. Last Thursday at three o'clock though it was Boylan again. Bernard Brogan was staying home to help his club win the county championship. McGrath was heading Down Under.
It meant a frantic 24 hours, getting the passport sent up to Croke Park, securing the visa, getting work to cover for him, all before dashing down to the Citywest for the All Stars. He'll miss Barry Owens' wedding too. On Thursday night Mark Little texted him that Fermanagh were on the look out for a new captain, now that he was going to be missing Owens' big day. McGrath quipped back, "I never liked that boy anyway!" but the truth is no one else in football can empathise with Owens more. Between their heart surgery, Owens' cartilage and cruciate operations, and McGrath's fight with that digger and cancer scare, they've been knocked down time and time again. And yet, they keep coming back, living strong, dying hard. It's the way these two Fermanagh men are. Not nearly men but iron men. Until they win Ulster they won't rest.
"If you look at where we were this time last year, a vast improvement was made in 2008. But at half-time of the Ulster final replay maybe all that talk you'd heard among your own [community] about the wides the first day seeped through and we made Armagh believe they could win more than ourselves. When we again wasted so much possession against Kildare, it wore boys down. But that's something you learn from, to keep playing through those bad patches like we had in earlier games. Maybe if we had that second week we'd have been fresher but we didn't and that's football.
"Boys are looking forward to going back to it a lot more than they were this time last year. I thought we, especially Clucker [McCluskey], should have won an All Star but maybe it's good we didn't because it makes boys hungrier. Fermanagh still isn't recognised yet. We have to get that Ulster title to get that respect."
For now he has two imminent opponents – Australia and cancer. This Irish team mightn't have the flair that the 2004 side did with players like Ciaran McDonald and Brian McGuigan, but it's mobile and strong and in runner Sean Marty Lockhart has a wealth of knowledge about the hybrid game that McGrath hugely values. As for the cancer, he'll go for a check-up every three months for the next year; then, hopefully, every six months. That's all he can do, all he can control.
"This summer it really helped to have the football. It helps you appreciate what you missed. Football has always been there for me. Those other things, sure you always get over them and get on with it."
So don't feel sorry for him. As he'd say himself, it's no big deal. If anything reserve your sympathy for that poor old digger, cancer and Muldoon – and maybe the odd misguided AFL footballer this next fortnight.
kshannon@tribune.ie
Great story. McGrath is some boy
Quote from: FermPundit on October 20, 2008, 04:41:56 PM
Quote from: FermGael on October 20, 2008, 10:46:56 AM
Newtownbutler 0-9 2-2 St. Patricks
I hear there were quite a few players sent off yesterday. I thought Donagh wouldn't have wanted to get involved in any off the ball stuff with the Ulster Championship against Cross coming up.
Who all was sent off? Maybe it wasn't their choice, know they didn't score in the second half so maybe Newtown came out all guns blazing.
Aaron Kernan was suggesting in the Irish News taday that the Ulster Championship game will be put off a week or two as the second test is two days before they face St Pat's, if that'll make any difference.
Roslea defeated EderneyO.11,to O,2 in the Fermanagh division 2 league final last night in Enniskillen.
Christ Ederney are lost without McGrath.
Know Skea lost to St Pat's today but two points, 2-3 to 1-8 I think. Mark Little sent off late on. Anyone have today's other scores or how the table looks?
I heard Coa beat Augher well in the Ulster Junior Club today
Quote from: wanderer on October 26, 2008, 07:14:00 PM
I heard Coa beat Augher well in the Ulster Junior Club today
They did indeed. 2-11 to 0-07. I have to admit I thought Augher would be too strong for them but fair play to Coa. It's good to see any Fermanagh club competing in Ulster at any level.
Fermpundit, where you at it? I haven't been chatting anyone who was there yet, who were the standouts for Coa?
They have a few decent players but whether they are good enough for a try at county level would be debatable. Any thoughts?
Quote from: wanderer on October 27, 2008, 08:32:44 PM
Fermpundit, where you at it? I haven't been chatting anyone who was there yet, who were the standouts for Coa?
They have a few decent players but whether they are good enough for a try at county level would be debatable. Any thoughts?
No, didn't great to the game but you're right, Coa do have some decent players. Eoin Donnelly, Lee McQuiad and Cathal Beacom all started for Fermanagh minors two years and Darren McQuaid was on the Fermanagh senior panel this year. What this result does prove is that Coa would be well fit to handle themselves in Senior league Division two. They now play St. John's of Down in the next round who have just won the Down division 4 title. I think the game is in Newry this coming Sunday. I would suggest that Coa have every chance of progressing to the semi finals.
Quote from: FermPundit on October 27, 2008, 08:44:48 PM
Quote from: wanderer on October 27, 2008, 08:32:44 PM
Fermpundit, where you at it? I haven't been chatting anyone who was there yet, who were the standouts for Coa?
They have a few decent players but whether they are good enough for a try at county level would be debatable. Any thoughts?
No, didn't great to the game but you're right, Coa do have some decent players. Eoin Donnelly, Lee McQuiad and Cathal Beacom all started for Fermanagh minors two years and Darren McQuaid was on the Fermanagh senior panel this year. What this result does prove is that Coa would be well fit to handle themselves in Senior league Division two. They now play St. John's of Down in the next round who have just won the Down division 4 title. I think the game is in Newry this coming Sunday. I would suggest that Coa have every chance of progressing to the semi finals.
Can't say I agree with you Fermpundit....well....not yet anyway. Whilst it was a massive result for them, they are still a couple of years short of progressing to Senior Football. It's one thing recording a victory in a straight knockout Junior championship game but another when competing over a number of weeks against teams with Senior status...though I guess we'll never actually find out until they actually make the leap! I think that long term, Belanaleck are the Junior team to look out for...they have performed well in the past number of years at youth level.....winning Div 1 titles and 'A' championships at u14/u16 and have challenged at Div 1 Minor level also. They have arguebly a better youth structure than Coa and Maguiresbridge and this can only pay dividends in years to come...provided the lads keep at it and continue to learn.
QuoteCan't say I agree with you Fermpundit....well....not yet anyway. Whilst it was a massive result for them, they are still a couple of years short of progressing to Senior Football. It's one thing recording a victory in a straight knockout Junior championship game but another when competing over a number of weeks against teams with Senior status...
I know what you mean but at the same time IMO Coa would be on a par with clubs like Aughdrumsee and Derrylin in Division two. My main point is regarding the structure of division two. With Maguiresbridge dropping down to junior level as well it only leaves 7 teams in the division. I think you need at least 8 teams to make it competitive. It has been mentioned here before but my argument would be that the county board should do away with the Erne Cup and create 5 or 6 leagues with reserve sides playing in the top leagues if they are strong enough. I think they use this system in Antrim and Leitrim and I think it would benefit Fermanagh football.
Know it's usually full of shit but there's a lot of talk on Hoganstand of a brawl in the Newtwon v Gaels match on Sunday?
Anyone at it by any chance?
Looks like Skea and Teemore could be dragged into relegation fight with Donagh.
Hear that Blobby has been persuaded.
Can only be good news if its true.
Quote from: FermGael on October 29, 2008, 06:18:11 PM
Hear that Blobby has been persuaded.
Can only be good news if its true.
Good news two or three years ago but I'm not so sure now. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.
The players I think merit a trail are Daniel Kille, Shane O'Brien, Ryan Carson, Paul Cosgrove (injured), Daryl Keenan (injured)
Quote from: FermGael on October 29, 2008, 06:18:11 PM
Good news two or three years ago but I'm not so sure now. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.
The players I think merit a trail are Daniel Kille, Shane O'Brien, Ryan Carson, Paul Cosgrove (injured), Daryl Keenan (injured)
Completely disagree. Blobby has been the best club midfielder in the county for the last 2 or 3 years. Could do a job there for us with Womble gone to Oz or could do a job at Full forward. If O'Rourke gets him fully fit and focused, then we could have a real star on our hands.
As for the other 4, well they are all worth a shot. Keenan has real class but seems to be have a nasty habit of picking up bad injuries.
Kille and Cosgrove have got potential and have played well this year. Have not seen enough of O'Brien.
Cassidy is still the best club forward within the county but he is well into his thirties. Still think he could offer Fermanagh an option in the Full Forward line.
Ciaran O'Reilly should hopefully return as well with a clean bill of health which should help sort out our free taking problems.
Excellent news on Blobby. If O'Rourke can get 100% out of him we've a certain starting midfielder there.
Womble in Oz?? First I've heard.
Who is blobby?
Not been native means that when I get home to see games, I know names but not nicknames :-[ :'(
Quote from: wanderer on October 31, 2008, 05:21:29 PM
Who is blobby?
Not been native means that when I get home to see games, I know names but not nicknames :-[ :'(
Blooby is a Ryan Carson, from Newtown
Got ya, have seen him play a couple of times. Good player but I got the impression that he was not interested in the training etc required at county level? He would definitely be a welcome addition especially if Murphy missing is true.
On the others mentioned, who i have seen enough to pass comment; Killie is a good player although a bit similar to what we have in my opinion. Is he a better or much different proposal than whats there?
Keenan has undoubted potential but rather than being injury prone, I'd say he has a wee bit of filling out to do which would serve him well. Seen him for St Mic's & Tempo and some challenges were dubious to say the least, maybe needs to move the ball quicker?
Derrygonnelly 1-09 Enniskillen 0-05
Devenish 1-05 Newtown 1-06
Lisnaskea 1-06 Tempo 0-11
Belcoo 4-19 Brookeboro 0-03
St. Patricks 1-11 Teemore 1-08
Congrats to St Patricks Lisbellaw on winning the Ulster Junior Hurling Championship. At least thats one ulster championship in the county this year.
I heard Rory Gallagher is back on the Fermanagh panel - is that true?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7712644.stm
seems to be the case... renewed hope that we have a potent forward to give us that cutting edge we desire.
That is some punt by O'Rourke.
IF he gets him back fully focused and playing as a member of a team/squad, then we have a real attacking threat, free taker and talent on our hands.
The big question is IF......................
Great news for Fermanagh - Rory is back !
No harm in having a look i suppose, but it reeks a little of desperation. Malachy could be putting his managerial reputation on the line here...
If he decides he wants to be a team player and not an individual he could be OK. Not sure if he has it for that level any more though
It's great news lads. If Rory had of been playing last season we could have been Ulster champions. If he has the right attitude he'll be a real asset.
When Rory was brought back into the squad in 2005 the situation was badly managed by management. This time around Malachy O'Rourke won't make the same mistake. Rory is an outstanding footballer and he will be a great addition to the squad.
Quote from: haranguerer on November 06, 2008, 01:38:16 PM
No harm in having a look i suppose, but it reeks a little of desperation. Malachy could be putting his managerial reputation on the line here...
I disagree. We all know about the problems in the forward line. Malachy is simply trying to get the best out of the small pool of players we have. I'm sure this wasn't a rush decision. I'd be surprised if all the players weren't consulted before he was asked back.
Hope you're right Fermpundit. Bit surprised I have to say, notice UTV showed him last night on the news, dunno who compiled it but they showed Raymie taking a free, then a close up of Kieran Donnelly and then Rory taking a free.
Think Ciaran O'Reilly can bring us everything that Rory could from dead-balls without the other hassle, but I'd love to be wrong.
There's no doubting his talent, never has been.
SFL Division one
Tempo 2-06 Derrygonnelly 1-13
Does that leave Derrygonnelly safe from the drop?
Know they play Skea and Donagh in the last two games so they'll have a big say in whoever does go down.
Went along to Crossmaglen today, probably the coldest place I've ever been. Not much of a contest but at least St Pat's weren't beat out of sight which looked on at one stage. Should have had a goal at the end which hit the crossbar and there were a few encouraging displays. Seen Malachy O'Rourke and selectors who must have been impressed by Gary Maguire and Ronan McCaffrey for St Pat's. Gary particularly was really throwing his weight about and could be a real presence in any full forward line. McCaffrey was excellent at full-back but he's into the thirties now sadly.
Whole different level Cross are at though, every one of them fit to ride the tackles and kick some great scores.
They were actually quite poor today but they didn't need to be great. Frog and Eamon and Gary Maguire were the most impressive for the Fermanagh side, Eamon torturing a few markers but he missed a glorious goal chance blazing over on his left 15 minutes in and Cross hit 7 points in a row after it. Pat Cadden was a big disappointment for them, a lot to do if he's the answer at county level.
Good performance from Donagh today. I saw highlights of the game on RTE news earlier tonight. To only lose by 7 points to a side like Crossmaglen is a good achievement for a small club like St. Pat's. I'm sure they will be very pleased with their year so far, however they still need to win a game or two to prevent relegation to division two. Although I didn't get to the game today I have been quite impressed with Gary Maguire this season. He gets through quite a lot of work in the full forward line. Although Pat Cadden was injured last season he didn't make that much of an impact with the county. He has a great left foot but even when playing for Donagh he tends to drift in and out of games.
In the division three league final today Belleek defeated Irvinestown 1-15 to 1-09. Good progress this year for Erne Gaels. Hopefully they'll continue their good work in the next round of the ulster intermediate championship.
Quote from: FermPundit on November 09, 2008, 10:17:49 PM
Good performance from Donagh today. I saw highlights of the game on RTE news earlier tonight. To only lose by 7 points to a side like Crossmaglen is a good achievement for a small club like St. Pat's. I'm sure they will be very pleased with their year so far, however they still need to win a game or two to prevent relegation to division two. Although I didn't get to the game today I have been quite impressed with Gary Maguire this season. He gets through quite a lot of work in the full forward line. Although Pat Cadden was injured last season he didn't make that much of an impact with the county. He has a great left foot but even when playing for Donagh he tends to drift in and out of games.
In the division three league final today Belleek defeated Irvinestown 1-15 to 1-09. Good progress this year for Erne Gaels. Hopefully they'll continue their good work in the next round of the ulster intermediate championship.
To be honest, it'll be years before a Fermanagh club makes an impact in Ulster at senior level. Has any club ever won it? I know the Gaels got to the final in 1999 and 2002 and Roslea did in the 1980s but think they've been the best performances AFAIK.
Roslea reached the Ulster club final back in 1982. I don't any Fermanagh or Cavan clubs have ever won an Ulster senior club championship.
Brookeborough didn't/couldn't field against Skea today giving them both points but St Pat's beat Derrygonnelly comfortably in Derrygonnelly so it's almost certainly relegation for Skea with just one game left and St Pat's home to Brookeborough.
How can a senior team not field in a crucial league game? And a team/town like Skea going down, says a lot for the state of football in the county.
Quote from: FermPundit on November 11, 2008, 10:52:56 PM
Roslea reached the Ulster club final back in 1982. I don't any Fermanagh or Cavan clubs have ever won an Ulster senior club championship.
that was our first ulster final win ;) god thats years ago. i'm getting to old ;)
Enniskillen 0-09 Devenish 1-03. Thats the Gaels safe from relegation.
Quote from: ExiledGael on November 16, 2008, 05:30:51 PM
Brookeborough didn't/couldn't field against Skea today giving them both points but St Pat's beat Derrygonnelly comfortably in Derrygonnelly so it's almost certainly relegation for Skea with just one game left and St Pat's home to Brookeborough.
How can a senior team not field in a crucial league game? And a team/town like Skea going down, says a lot for the state of football in the county.
It is a sad reflection of Fermanagh football when a big club like Lisnaskea are almost certain to be relegated from Division one but maybe it's the kick up the back side they require. They have had strong youth teams over the years but for some reason not many players come through and play senior football. I think the problems with Lisnaskea exist in every large town in Ulster. For example, this year Dungannon were relegated to junior football in Tyrone and the the Newry clubs are extremely weak in Down football. When such a large percentage of each county's population reside in urban areas its a massive problem the GAA will need to assess.
In fairness to Brookeboro they have been struggling to field for the last few games and Lisnaksea would have beaten them quite easily today if the game was played.
Quote from: FermPundit on November 16, 2008, 09:55:23 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on November 16, 2008, 05:30:51 PM
Brookeborough didn't/couldn't field against Skea today giving them both points but St Pat's beat Derrygonnelly comfortably in Derrygonnelly so it's almost certainly relegation for Skea with just one game left and St Pat's home to Brookeborough.
How can a senior team not field in a crucial league game? And a team/town like Skea going down, says a lot for the state of football in the county.
It is a sad reflection of Fermanagh football when a big club like Lisnaskea are almost certain to be relegated from Division one but maybe it's the kick up the back side they require. They have had strong youth teams over the years but for some reason not many players come through and play senior football. I think the problems with Lisnaskea exist in every large town in Ulster. For example, this year Dungannon were relegated to junior football in Tyrone and the the Newry clubs are extremely weak in Down football. When such a large percentage of each county's population reside in urban areas its a massive problem the GAA will need to assess.
In fairness to Brookeboro they have been struggling to field for the last few games and Lisnaksea would have beaten them quite easily today if the game was played.
Its been decades since there has been a team for Derry City in the Derry Senior Championship!!
Daily Star saying today that Stephen Maguire is almost certainly going to rejoin the Fermanagh squad.
Haven't heard anything of this, and know what the Star is like.
Annual bullshit story at this stage it looks like, anyone know any different? He must be a few years into his thirties anyway.
Quote from: ExiledGael on November 18, 2008, 07:40:39 PM
Daily Star saying today that Stephen Maguire is almost certainly going to rejoin the Fermanagh squad.
Haven't heard anything of this, and know what the Star is like.
Annual bullshit story at this stage it looks like, anyone know any different? He must be a few years into his thirties anyway.
I would be surprised but you just never know! First Rory and now possibly Stevie. It looks like Malachy O'Rourke is leaving no stone unturned in trying to solve Fermanagh's problems up front. I've seen Stevie play a couple of times this year and he was pretty quiet but regardless he would be an excellent option to have in the squad.
Having Rory and Stevie in there would certainly help the free taking area. Stevie's game was never geared around pace so his age is less of a factor than others of the same age. Ciarán O'Reilly is meant to be close to being back to full training. He's been fierce unlucky with that cartilage problem in his knee. Looks like we'll have a bit of strength and depth next season.
How do yous rate Belleek's chances of overturning Trillick on Sunday? You'd think Trillick would be too strong, but Erne Gaels have some great players in Shane Lyons and Shane O'Brien.
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How do yous rate Belleek's chances of overturning Trillick on Sunday? You'd think Trillick would be too strong, but Erne Gaels have some great players in Shane Lyons and Shane O'Brien.
Yeah, you would imagine that Trillick would be too strong for Belleek but I fully expect them to give a good account of themselves. Whilst they have struggled in Division 2 this year no side hammered them. Both sets of players should know each other pretty well given that so many of the Trillick team were educated at St. Michael's. Mattie Donnelly and Niall Gormley are the danger men up front for Trillick but I believe Gormley didn't play at the weekend because of a foot injury. If he doesn't recover in time then Belleek could possibly cause an upset.
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Quote from: inisceithleann on November 18, 2008, 08:32:39 PM
How do yous rate Belleek's chances of overturning Trillick on Sunday? You'd think Trillick would be too strong, but Erne Gaels have some great players in Shane Lyons and Shane O'Brien.
Yeah, you would imagine that Trillick would be too strong for Belleek but I fully expect them to give a good account of themselves. Whilst they have struggled in Division 2 this year no side hammered them. Both sets of players should know each other pretty well given that so many of the Trillick team were educated at St. Michael's. Mattie Donnelly and Niall Gormley are the danger men up front for Trillick but I believe Gormley didn't play at the weekend because of a foot injury. If he doesn't recover in time then Belleek could possibly cause an upset.
Yeah Niall Gormley hasn't played now for a good few weeks and to be honest Erne Gaels need him to not play again this weekend. Hope they can do it, would be good for the county, but wouldn't bet on it. Haven't seen an awful lot of Shane O'Brien but he seems to be very well thought of around home, will he last the county trials?
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Quote from: inisceithleann on November 18, 2008, 08:32:39 PM
How do yous rate Belleek's chances of overturning Trillick on Sunday? You'd think Trillick would be too strong, but Erne Gaels have some great players in Shane Lyons and Shane O'Brien.
Yeah, you would imagine that Trillick would be too strong for Belleek but I fully expect them to give a good account of themselves. Whilst they have struggled in Division 2 this year no side hammered them. Both sets of players should know each other pretty well given that so many of the Trillick team were educated at St. Michael's. Mattie Donnelly and Niall Gormley are the danger men up front for Trillick but I believe Gormley didn't play at the weekend because of a foot injury. If he doesn't recover in time then Belleek could possibly cause an upset.
Yeah Niall Gormley hasn't played now for a good few weeks and to be honest Erne Gaels need him to not play again this weekend. Hope they can do it, would be good for the county, but wouldn't bet on it. Haven't seen an awful lot of Shane O'Brien but he seems to be very well thought of around home, will he last the county trials?
I would think so given that Womble is away to Australia. We need cover at midfield and he would provide it. He's an excellent free taker as well. It'll be interesting to see how he performs this Sunday.
Erne Gaels also have the fella Ciaran Smith who captained St Michael's to Macrory victory in '99. Pretty good player from what I remember.
Good article by Colm Bradley in the Herald today. Welcoming Rory back into the Fermanagh fold and saying that he is so much more than a free taker. Will Bradley himself be making a comeback next season?
Read that this morning, hard to disagree with much of it. Given that I'd still be surprised to see Gallagher about come summer.
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Read that this morning, hard to disagree with much of it. Given that I'd still be surprised to see Gallagher about come summer.
Have to disagree with you there. I'd say O'Rourke was dying for Gallagher to come back (may even have asked him to the trials). Who else could play Centre Half Forward, a real problem position for us. Tom Brewster or O'Reilly? In any case we need more experience in the forward line. Look how Mattie Keenan struggled when he started in the Championship.
Well here's hoping. I've got my hopes up about him once too often though.
Notice the Enniskillen Town notes wishing Mattie Keenan all the best after recent surgery on a hip problem, what's the story here?
WIll he be fit again for January? Would like to see him make an impact after his disastrous 15 minutes in the replayed final, couldn't have been easy to take.
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Read that this morning, hard to disagree with much of it. Given that I'd still be surprised to see Gallagher about come summer.
Have to disagree with you there. I'd say O'Rourke was dying for Gallagher to come back (may even have asked him to the trials). Who else could play Centre Half Forward, a real problem position for us. Tom Brewster or O'Reilly? In any case we need more experience in the forward line. Look how Mattie Keenan struggled when he started in the Championship.
If Rory is to play in the team then full foward is the only postion for him. CHF is a problem area for us. Maybe Ciaran O'Reilly can fill the void when he recovers from his knee injury. I read in the Herald today that Mattie Keenan has recently undergone surgery. I think he had a groin problem last year.
For any other Fermanagh folk who haven't seen the article on Rory Gallagher, here it is.
Tackling Matters
By Colm Bradley
As he tiptoes into his 30s he has probably outgrown the prodigal son tag but the return of Rory Gallagher to the Fermanagh fold is nevertheless something that we should all be delighted with.
Whatever your opinion is of Gallagher - and he tends to provoke polar opposites - there has been no Fermanagh footballer of the past ten years who sets tongues wagging quite like the Belleek native.
Firstly, let me say that I think it is a great move by Malachy O'Rourke to take another look at the Gallagher. O'Rourke has absolutely nothing to lose by having a look at the forward. We all know what he can do when on top form and Malachy would have been wrong to shut the door on him. In a county whose resources are as scant as ours it would be an exercise of extreme folly to discard anyone who has proven their mettle in the inter county arena in the past. Rory has done that and if he can reproduce the form of old then he will be of huge benefit to the Fermanagh squad.
Secondly, this is a great move for Gallagher himself. He opted out of Inter County action after the 2002 season and as a result missed both the 2003 run to the quarter finals and also the 2004 run to the semi final. His comeback for Fermanagh in 2005 did not go well for a variety of reasons while his sortie with Cavan in 2007 was not the success he would have wished for.
He has unfinished business if you like, and it would have been terribly sad had this terrific Fermanagh footballer played his last minutes of Inter County football in the blue of Cavan rather than the green of Fermanagh. By putting himself forward for a trial Gallagher has given himself the chance to once again play for his own county and it is the least the man deserves after the service he has given Fermanagh down through the years.
In many ways you have to feel for Gallagher, because, he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't in the eyes of many. He has become something of a paradoxical figure for Fermanagh fans over the last decade or so. If you listen to terrace talk among supporters his absence has been both the reason for Fermanagh's success, and also our failures in the past five years.
When things are going well people tend to forget all about Gallagher, except possibly to say that the team is better off without him. On the other hand when things go wrong, especially in front of the posts, supporters can be heard bemoaning the fact that Gallagher is not part of the set up. Both assertions are grossly unfair by the way. The success or failure of a team does not rest on the shoulders of one man.
But with the Ulster final loss and the defeat to Kildare still fresh in people's minds the general consensus doing the rounds at present is that Gallagher's presence in either game would have guaranteed victory. In bars, workplaces and that infinite bastion of misinformation, cyber space, the opinion that; 'If Gallagher was playing last year we would have won Ulster,' has almost cemented itself as fact. Every time I hear or read this train of thought I have to bite my tongue.
Because, when people argue this point they do not point to his passing ability, or coolness under pressure or even his ability to score goals as reasons why he would have been an asset last year. No, instead they claim that his only use would have been to kick the free kicks. A sort of designated free taker who needed to do nothing else!
A good friend of mine constantly argues that you can 'carry a free taker.' Well you can't, not at inter county level. Anybody who thinks you can should tell me of a successful team of the last decade who have carried a free take. Please, go ahead, try. Peter McGinnity, even at his age (sorry Peter) would have kicked most of the frees Fermanagh missed last year so why not 'carry' him as a free taker! The logic used by some is definitely of the nonsensical nature.
The simple fact of the matter is that the Fermanagh forwards, although wrongly maligned by the end of the season, were a huge part of the success of the team. The forwards worked to a strict game plan and their workrate was a huge factor in the team getting so far. Dropping back, working selflessly and a complete unity and trust in one another were traits which marked out the forwards last year. These traits may not be as easily recognisable to the naked eye as a spectacular point or searing solo run but without them Fermanagh would not have reached an Ulster final last year. A free taker lined out simply to kick frees would not have seen Fermanagh past Monaghan in Brewster Park let alone win an Ulster Championship.
But what should be borne in mind every time somebody wheels out the, 'Gallagher is only there for free kicks' line, is that they are in fact doing a great disservice to the man. If Rory Gallagher plays to his potential then he will be on the starting 15 regardless of his free taking abilities. In short if Rory Gallagher is on song there will be no need to carry him; he will, in fact, become an integral part of the team.
So please desist from the thinking that an Anglo Celt is now a certainty because we may have an ace free taker in our pack. Believe me when I say that Malachy O'Rourke will carry no-one.
So if Gallagher earns a starting spot against Down it will be because of what he adds to the team from play, not from frees, and if he is there for his contribution from play then that means we have one of the best forwards in Ulster in our ranks, regardless of whether he ever hits a free kick.
And if this happens folks, then, we can get really excited!
After looking at some of the debate about McRory cup football and its merits on the Antrim thread,
I was wondering what anybodies thoughts are on other school's Gaelic contibutions to fermanagh football.
It seems to me that we have very little sucess outside the McRory bracket with our school's and vocational college.
Any thoughts???
Some of the other schools have produced a player or two but the crucial stage as in all counties comes at the 17/18/19 age group where we seem to have lost a lot of potential. Most of us probably remember the St Comghall's Lisnaskea team that won a vocational schools All-Ireland. Not one hundred percent on this but those players should be 28/29 now and I don't think one of them are involved in the current Fermanagh set-up, certainly none I know of.
Now an awful lot of that is to do with social matters and employment/emigration from the few I'd know, but Tyrone have a similar outlook on those issues and I could never imagine that happening there.
Anyone remember or have a link to that team?
Not 100% sure on this Exiled Gael but thought Mark Little was part of that St.Col's team that won that year. Also Fermanagh Tech won the All-Ireland that year, not sure if any current Fermanagh seniors were on that team
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Not 100% sure on this Exiled Gael but thought Mark Little was part of that St.Col's team that won that year. Also Fermanagh Tech won the All-Ireland that year, not sure if any current Fermanagh seniors were on that team
Don't know about Fermanagh, but I believe Colm McCullagh (Dromore/Tyrone) was part of that team IIRC.
Steven Maguire was also on that team I believe. Was Rory Gallagher on it too?
Not sure on Mark Little though his older brothers certainly did feature for St Comghall's.
Just heard a rumour that Rory Gallagher, Mark Little, Shaun Doherty and Mattie Keenan have been omitted from the McKenna Cup squad. Keenan is having an operation Does anyone know why the others have been left out? Strong management again by Malachy...?
Quote from: 118cmal on November 26, 2008, 01:31:46 PM
Just heard a rumour that Rory Gallagher, Mark Little, Shaun Doherty and Mattie Keenan have been omitted from the McKenna Cup squad. Keenan is having an operation Does anyone know why the others have been left out? Strong management again by Malachy...?
Yep, Rory didn't make the squad. I was a bit surprised but I suppose he hasn't played inter county football since 2005 and he probably isn't the player he once was. Two new additions to the squad are James Connolly and Ryan Carson from NTB. This will please a lot of people within the county. The hogan stand ran a story that Mark Little didn't make the squad as well. I would find this very hard to believe. The Fermanagh Herald only talked about the panel but didn't list all the players. Until I see his name missing from the finalised squad will I believe he hasn't been selected.
Was reading the Hearld and saw in the 'Skea clubnotes a message congratulating Mark Little and Daniel Kille on making the panel for the McKenna cup
This has nothing to do with football but does anyone know why the Impartial Reporter hasn't been updated online for weeks?
anyone at the league final today? how'd it turn out?
Quote from: supersub on November 29, 2008, 09:28:02 PM
anyone at the league final today? how'd it turn out?
SFL Divison one final.
Devenish 2-09 Newtownbutler 1-08.
They got the winning goal in the last minute.
Erne Cup Division one final
The game between Derrygonnelly 2 and Maguiresbridge ended in a draw
Derrygonnelly 2 1-11 Maguriesbridge 2-08
Erne Cup promotion/relegation play off
Lisnaskea 1-09 4-07 Belcoo
So relegation to division two for Lisnaskea Emmetts reserves. It rounds off what has truly been an awful year for Skea with the seniors being relegated as well. A bit of soul searching is required this winter. A big club like Lisnaskea shouldn't be playing division two football at any level.
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Erne Cup promotion/relegation play off
Lisnaskea 1-09 4-07 Belcoo
So relegation to division two for Lisnaskea Emmetts reserves. It rounds off what has truly been an awful year for Skea with the seniors being relegated as well. A bit of soul searching is required this winter. A big club like Lisnaskea shouldn't be playing division two football at any level.
Skea have been on the slide for years, big soccer town and big drinkers as well (what town or village is different). Typical of most town clubs around the country. They seemed to have a right bit underage success but it hasn't been brought through at all.
Was reading through the Irish News there this morning and they are doing a daily feature on each counties 'club stars' from the championship and today it's Fermanaghs turn. Very surprised by some of Michael Breslins selections! He has 5 Coa men on it and I no they won the junior championship and beat Augher in Ulster but don't think it's worthy of 5 selections, 2-3 maybe! Also 8 Donagh men on it and we all no the story with them this year but 5 would have probably been a more accurate reflection. Can't believe the likes of Kevin Cassisy, Declan Cassidy, Rory Foy, haven't made it. I no it's only a bit of craic but does anyone seriously agree with those selections?
Noticed those alright yesterday. Picture of Gary Maguire was Fergal O'Reilly and the pic of Paul Ward was Shaun Doherty, I know we're minnows but they have all played for the county.
Anyway was surprised by the team, thought Erne Gaels would warrant a few more, especially Ryder at midfield. Couldn't argue with a lot of the others, Kevs Cassidy perhaps also unlucky. Wasn't a great year for a lot of clubs, Teemore missing a few big men in Owens and O'Reilly, Skea and the Gaels lacking much direction for a while now. Belcoo and Newtown also didn't do themselves much justice.
Taken from the Sunday Tribune
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The 2008 Sporting Year In Review I Was There - Kieran Shannon
Fermanagh v Armagh, Ulster Final, 20 July
They Erne'd it: Fermanagh players stand for the National Anthem in Clones before the county's first Ulster final since 1982
As far back as my schooldays one of my main wishes in life has been to go to an Ulster final with my father. Not just any Ulster final but one with Fermanagh playing. My father was 17 when he left the county for Belfast and over the years work would take him to live in Dublin, Dungarvan and finally Cork but he never forgot where he came from and we were never in any doubt either.
As a kid I'd listen out for Fermanagh's league result as keenly as I would Cork's. I'd scan through the sports pages of The Fermanagh Herald that would come through the letterbox every week after Dad had devoured it and together we'd talk about the latest exploits of Peter McGinnity and Tommy Maguire and young Malachy O'Rourke. When my cousin Niall from Enniskillen would visit and play in our back garden, he'd be Fermanagh and I'd be Cork, but then when he'd head home and I'd be back to playing the neighbours all lining up to be either Dinny Allen and Cork or Jacko and Kerry, I'd have the hand up wanting to be some boy called McGinnity.
I don't know why I found it so easy to root for Fermanagh. Dad certainly didn't force it on me. He didn't force anything on me, football included, and through my teens, basketball would become my first love; football was a distant second with all its table-banging and shivering in the corner or on the line in the cold and the rain. But I always loved following football and Fermanagh was a part of that love affair.
Maybe it was out of sympathy for Dad. We'd go to the big games in Thurles, Limerick and Cork with our friends from Cork and Tipp, the pubs and the streets thronged to see Munster's finest, and every now and then one of the lads for a laugh would shout "C'mon Fermanagh!" "And it's a goal for Fermanagh!" And I'd watch Dad quietly laugh with them too, knowing there was an undercurrent there as well – Fermanagh don't do big days like this, Fermanagh will never do big days like this.
I always found there was a dignified humility about Fermanagh people, something my father personified. As much as I had grown up in Cork and was proud of the fact I was always somewhat discomfitted by that arrogant side to the Cork character and how fellas on barstools could dismiss the hurling argument of someone from Clare or Waterford with a quip like "Roll of Honour, boy", or as I witnessed first-hand, my own father with "Sure what would you know about hurling? You're from Fermanagh." There was something about Fermanagh folk I found more endearing. It wasn't that they were "nice" or "too nice" as Pat Spillane once told Brian D'Arcy, and humility wasn't quite the term for it either. It would take me years to define it.
For years too I regretted that my father and myself never got to the 1982 Ulster final. We still don't know why we didn't, just that we went to the Munster hurling final instead. I think and fear that perhaps Dad caved in to peer pressure, or more precisely, pressure from me, taken as I was by all the local hype that surrounded Cork-Waterford. That game was a non-event, and my abiding memory of the day is of Dad, with his ear to his little transistor, clenching his fist when he heard about McGinnity's wonder goal and then his quiet muttering on the way out of Semple Stadium, cursing that Fermanagh had lost, and for all I know, cursing that he wasn't even there.
His brother Joe had been in Clones and on the way down its famous hill, my cousin Niall noticed his father was crying. "What's wrong, Daddy?"
"I'll never see us win one now."
Joe was right. He had suffered a heart attack earlier that year, and in 1991, at 49 years of age, the heart finally gave in for good. A couple of years later my own father underwent a quadruple bypass while still in his mid-40s, and when Niall told me about what his dad had said to him in Clones it dawned on me that I wasn't going to have forever to go to an Ulster final with my dad.
Around this time last year I got a chance to do something about it. Malachy O'Rourke had been appointed county manager and as a reader of the Tribune, he knew I was also a sport psychology consultant. He also knew that my father was from Derrylin, just like himself. Would I come on board with the team? To do something special would require doing something different and having a performance coach with Fermanagh blood would be part of that.
As a rule because of my job as a journalist I don't work with inter-county teams participating in the senior hurling or football championships, but after sounding out both my father and my editor, I agreed. For one year I'd work with an inter-county team and get to bring my father to that Ulster final.
Fermanagh started the year in Division Three. It was a wildly-competitive division, with seven other dangerous, mid-ranking teams and the spectre of relegation and the Tommy Murphy Cup hovering in the background, but by mid-April we had secured promotion and were one of only two unbeaten teams in the country. Then, on the last Sunday of May, we saw off a fancied Monaghan side in the first round of the championship, my father by my side in Brewster Park. I'd told the players from the start that I was involved to bring my father to see an Ulster final so come championship, I wouldn't be in the dressing room with them on match day until we'd won that Ulster; I'd be with him instead.
Before any Ulster final though, there was the matter of Derry. Heading into Omagh, Derry were raging favourites to win Ulster and behind only Kerry and Dublin to win the All Ireland itself. But in the Fermanagh camp, the mood and the mindset was just right.
Derry would be an even greater test of our resolve and composure. In the past decade Fermanagh had played in nine major semi-finals and failed to win even one. So 10 days out from the game I showed all the boys a photograph of an inspirational figure from black history.
Rosa Parks was a housekeeper working in Montgomery, Alabama where blacks couldn't even sit across a bus aisle from a white person. They could sit in the middle rows alright – until the white section was full. Then they had to move to sit towards the back or stand, or, if there was no room, leave the bus. Once, the bus driver had demanded Parks get off and re-enter through the backdoor, but before Parks got close to re-entering through the backdoor, he drove off, leaving her walk five miles in the rain.
"Lads," I said, "does that remind you of anyone? That you can stay until someone else comes along and tells you to move aside? That you can win your preliminary round and your first round but come a certain point, come an Ulster semi-final, you're meant to feck off down or off the bus and come back in through the backdoor?
"Now on Saturday week there's another bus leaving from Omagh and people are going to expect us to just move aside. But no, we're staying on that bus and it's taking us all the way to Clones. Because we have that determination. We've endured long enough. We know it's time, that it's our time. And we have something else. When Rosa Parks wrote her autobiography she called it Quiet Strength. That, she said, was what she was armed with that day. Now I look around this room and that's what I see. Hugh Brady. Quiet strength. Shane Goan – quite strength. Tommy McElroy – quiet strength. Barry Owens. Quiet. Strength. Mark Murphy..." I could have named them all. And I could have named Brendan Shannon too. There. That's the term I was always searching for. Not "humility", not "nice", but quiet strength.
I watched that Derry game with my cousin Niall; my father, unaware that Ulster Council would move the game to a Saturday night, had long bought tickets to bring my mother to a concert and was tied to that commitment. But he got seeing the first half on the box, and then going to and during the gig, he was texting me furiously. "How is it now?" "How r we doing?"
"Still two down." "One up – Barry just on and scored goal." "Four up with 10 to go." And then something I had longed for years to say – "We're going to the Ulster final, Dad."
On 20 July that's precisely what we did. The weather was more glorious than it had ever been in my dreams – it must have been the only warm, sunny day of the year. And we were all there, just as I'd always pictured it – Dad, Niall, the cousins and aunts – having a drink in the courtyard of the Creighton Hotel on the foot of the famous hill. I can't say I was basking in the moment though. Funny, that's what I'd be telling the players – stay in the moment, stay loose, keep with the process and trust the outcome will take care of itself – but when you're away from the team, you're mostly thinking about outcome. On Thursday night at training our centre-back Ryan McCluskey broke his finger. How would he go? How would the game go? The sport psychologist was the one who needed the psychologist. Instead I had Dad but then that's all I needed, and as we walked up the hill, we smiled. This was it. This was what it was all about.
Once inside the ground I was relaxed but the first half itself was tense, about the only thing separating the sides a Finian Moriarty goal. A minute into the second half though, Ronan Clarke broke through for a goal and now we were eight down. Strange, but I actually still felt confident and a lot better than I had been two hours earlier. We had been well behind against Leitrim, Wexford and Derry as well and come back. That's what we did here. Marty thumped over a point from 50 yards. Then wee Eamonn Maguire pounced for a goal. And then though we hit wide after wide, we kept coming at Armagh in wave after wave with the kind of fury only the dispossessed can possess.
A minute into injury time and Fermanagh still down by a point Shane McDermott picked out Shaun Doherty with a wonderful floating pass to run onto and from 40 yards Shaun let fly. 'The Doc' had only been on the field five minutes and his previous attempt at goal had sailed well wide but this time the connection between boot and ball seemed just right. And for about 20 yards it just floated towards Paul Hearty's goal, and then it was as if it was willed the rest of the way and over the crossbar by the Fermanagh crowd in the terrace behind. Equaliser. Draw. Replay. After a lifetime of never seeing Fermanagh play in an Ulster final, we'd suddenly see them play two in a week.
The second one didn't go to plan. With 20 minutes there was only a point in it but then Barry Owens was carried off minutes after coming on and when he went, something of our quiet strength seemed to go with him. Maybe one wide too many had been kicked, maybe one battle too far had been fought, but whenever Steve McDonnell pounced to blast past Ronan Gallagher, even I knew it was over.
The following week, so was the whole season after the infamous widefest with Kildare. In the space of eight days Fermanagh had gone from darlings of the nation to the joke of the nation in the eyes of those cold, timid souls who'll never know neither victory nor defeat.
I had gotten to know both, very, very well. I had gotten to see up close the intelligence and geniality of Malachy O'Rourke and his selectors; the humility and fortitude of Marty McGrath and Barry Owens; the moral courage of Ryan Keenan; the steadying influence and indefatigable spirit of Ronan Gallagher, Ryan McCluskey, Liam McBarron; the blooming of Tommy McElroy and Damien Kelly; the warmth and camaraderie of the whole group. It was the privilege of a lifetime and as often as I myself have found those wides against Armagh and Kildare the most pronounced image of Fermanagh's season, I've checked myself in recent months and tried to recall all the good times we had together. The group, the cousins, and especially my dad and our drive back down to Cork the Monday after that drawn Ulster final and the chat and the hope that carried us there.
"Hey, the Doc did it! It was the Doc that did it!"
"Francie can't handle Barry, sure he can't, Kieran?"
"We'll take them the next day."
I won't be involved with Fermanagh next year. This writing gig hardly allows it and really, family life doesn't either. This past year the whole Ulster thing had become an obsession, and a couple of months ago my own father reminded me that instead of all that travelling up north trying to get something for him, I had to remember I was a father myself to wee Aimee.
The day after Malachy informed the players I wouldn't be around for 2009 Ronan Gallagher called to thank me for my contribution and to say that he and the boys would be doing all they could to get my father to another Ulster final. And I know they will. I hope it's in Ronan's playing days and I pray to God it's in Dad's lifetime, but I know for a fact it'll happen in mine. And when it does, I'll walk up that hill in Clones and by my side in some form or another will be my father, the pair of us armed with quiet strength.
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I found it a good article, it brought back all the memories from the Summer, lets hope next year will be even better!!!!!!
Seen that advertised F&S and meant to get the tribune.
Cheers for posting it. We'll get there some day.
Quote from: ExiledGael on December 28, 2008, 09:11:48 PM
Seen that advertised F&S and meant to get the tribune.
Cheers for posting it. We'll get there some day.
I hope you're right Exiled. I feel sick thinking about the Ulster final. I just hope last Summer's disappointment will drive the players on to the holy grail next year.
Another end of year Fermanagh piece, this one from Hoganstand. Apologies if you've all seen it but it's worth posting.
Loyal son of Fermanagh
29 December 2008
"I'd be happy to sit on the bench for the next five years if it meant we were to win the Ulster title" - Shaun Doherty.
Shaun Doherty is the player whose injury-time point in last July's Ulster SFC final secured a glorious draw for rank outsiders Fermanagh in their duel with Armagh.
If he never kicks a ball in anger again for the Ernesiders, the Kinawley native will be remembered for that mother and father of cool, calm levelling points.
Doherty played admittedly cameo roles in Fermanagh's 2008 championship odyssey but try taking the honour of it all from his county's unlikely hero.
At the outset of 2008, most pundits viewed Fermanagh as the only one among the so-called 'outsiders' who had the artillery to spring a surprise in the Ulster SFC.
And by dint of their promotion-winning exploits in division three, the end of Spring ignited a run of bets on the Ernesiders to finally end their championship hoodoo.
Even defeat in the league final failed to dim the expectations of Fermanagh's proud, passionate and partisan supporters.
Indeed, by the time the only team never to have landed the Anglo Celt Cup ended Monaghan's provincial championship aspirations, turf accountants began to look to their laurels.
Fermanagh's gritty victory at home to Monaghan was eyed as a litmus test of the county's development under new boss Malachy O'Rourke and things were set to get even better.
Would-be hero provincial final hero Shaun Doherty says victory over the Oriel men kick-started a season which proved that "we're getting closer and closer to where we want to go."
"We didn't win the Ulster title but getting to the final was a very positive experience for the county; after all it was 26 years since we had reached that stage before" Doherty explains.
"Getting to the finals is what you need to be at if you want to get the sort of experience needed to eventual crack it. It was Armagh's cuteness and know-how that got them through."
Fermanagh didn't crack the code in '08, of course, but they laid down a marker and opened a few more eyes, least of all that of an orange and white hue.
"I think Armagh were a bit stunned in the first game (of the final) by the freshness of our approach, our fitness and the intensity of our tackling.
"Credit to them though for obviously studying a video of the match, learning some lessons from the (drawn) game and coming back with a new plan for the replay."
And their plan exactly?
"I think in the replay they decided to concentrate on stopping our lads running through and had a man-marking policy in place whereas in the drawn they tended to mark space before tackling the man in possession.
"In the replay, they went one-on-one which left us with hardly a second on the ball and prevented us from putting the ball into the danger area in front of goal when we wanted.
"There was always pressure put on the man on the ball and on him when he was about to kick it with Aidan O'Rourke covering in front of their full-back line."
Armagh's master plan which ultimately worked the oracle and helped eke out their 1-11 to 0-8 victory (following their 2-8 to 1-11 draw) contrasted starkly with Fermanagh's folly.
Dire consequences in front of goal in the replay conspired to haul the Ernesiders kicking and screaming into the All-Ireland SFC qualifiers but don't expect Doherty to point fingers:
"Our shooting let us down and it was a pity for the lads up front but we made mistakes all over the place and not just in defence," the Kinawley clubman advises.
"We trained all year and a lot of shooting practice was included in our training with endless shots being taken and the lads were full time taking free-kicks.
"But there's just no replicating the atmosphere and conditions of an Ulster final and I think, to a certain extent, nerves played a part in the misses.
"After the drawn game, we genuinely felt we could go one better but kicking seven or eight wides undermined our confidence and things started slipping away from us.
"But there was much more to our defeat than just our shooting because at times we didn't lay off the ball as quickly as we should have and we didn't take responsibility at other times.
"We have very good players on the team, good marksman but unfortunately we didn't strike while the iron was hot the first day and we paid the price for that.
"I definitely feel that if there had been another two or three minutes played at the end of the first game we would have won it.
"They were cuter and sharper to the ball in the replay and maybe the notion that Armagh don't lose replays enter our psyche and that counted against us too."
And yet months after the grave disappointment of being so near and yet so far away, Shaun at least has a golden memory to cling to and which he describes as a "dream."
History will detail how, in the third minute of injury time during the first game of the final, our man Doherty hit an equaliser which was sucked over the bar by the Fermanagh fans.
Malachy O'Rourke showed his football nous by introducing, firstly, Shane Lyons to full-back and then relocating Shane McDermott to the half-back line.
O'Rourke also sent in super-sub Doherty in the 64th minute which, above all else, proved to be the manager's most judicious decision.
Doherty got the ball in his paws in hte 73rd minute, looked up, eyed the goalposts and executed the most sublime, perfect kick which sent the ball high between the uprights.
It was a score that fairly franked a draw for the Fermanagh men and brought to a climax a run which saw them fight back from an eight point deficit to earn the draw.
Understandably, Fermanagh's hero has a vivid memory of the day he sent half of the 34,000-plus crowd into delirium and left the other half gobsmacked:
"It was a dream score for me and obviously it meant a hell of a lot to the county and the supporters there in Clones that day," the 24-year old attacker explains.
"It was great in the first place to come off the bench, even for the last few minutes, but to knock over the leveller was amazing and unforgettable.
"It was a chance that I was determined to make the most of because too often in the past I would have passed the buck and not gone for the score myself.
"I remember getting the ball in a similar situation two years agon in the semi-final against Armagh and I should have tried my luck but I tried to fist it over Francie Bellew's head to Ciaran O'Reilly but it didn't come off.
"When I got the ball this time around, I went on auto pilot and passing it never entered my head, never came into the equation, because I thought of that incident two years ago.
"Funnily, I had been in Clones with the team two weeks before that having a training session and I popped over a point from almost the same position.
"Converting that chance in the final and being responsible for getting the team a second bite of the cherry when the whole day doubly sweet for me."
Doherty oozes confidence in the ability of Fermanagh to land that first Ulster title - the Holy Grail - sooner rather than later. "If we don't win it in 2009, we'll win it shortly afterwards."
He says there's no way are the Ernesiders going to commit themselves to four evenings per week sessions for up to nine months of the year "just to have a go at winning it."
"We're up to speed with every other county in terms of being looked after, in terms of our commitment and work rate on and off the pitch so why wouldn't we win it (Anglo Celt Cup)?
"There's no way any county could be hungrier than us and being the first side to win the Anglo Celt Cup is a huge motivating factor for the current squad.
"Everyone of the 37 or so lads on the panel believe we can win the Ulster title 'cause all the ingredients are there; the self-belief, the talent, the back-up, everything.
"I'm sure Malachy (O'Rourke) will unearth another couple of players over the course of the club championship which will strengthen the panel for 2009.
"We're getting closer and closer to making just that bit of distance that will get us past the winning post. We're within touching distance of breaking our duck."
And a more consistent run on the team in the coming year for one Shaun Doherty perhaps?
"Hopefully but I've no argument with Malachy about the decisions and selections he made in 2008.
"He's a Fermanagh man with the county at heart and he has shown good faith in us all and me too and he said I'd get my chance and I did and I was glad to be able to contribute something to the cause.
"I'd be happy to sit on the bench though for the next five years if it meant we were to win the Ulster title.
"If there's a man fitter than me, a better footballer than me I'd be happy to be see him take his place on the team and then be ready to come in if needed."
Behold a loyal son of Fermanagh.
Is Mike McGurn with Fermanagh this year?
Quote from: JMohan on January 02, 2009, 12:00:48 PM
Is Mike McGurn with Fermanagh this year?
No, as far as I'm aware he's still the fitness coach for the the Neath Swansea Ospreys.
So Cork didn't tempt him then?
Quote from: JMohan on January 02, 2009, 06:27:04 PM
So Cork didn't tempt him then?
http://www.tribune.ie/sport/article/2008/dec/21/mcgurn-yet-to-agree-to-cork-hurling-role/ (http://www.tribune.ie/sport/article/2008/dec/21/mcgurn-yet-to-agree-to-cork-hurling-role/)
I'm not sure what will happen here but as the above article states the current stand off between Gerald McCarthy and the Cork hurlers wouldn't encourage McGurn to come on board.
I se no Mattie Keenan nor Niall Keenan on the panel this year. Getting vague memories of being told there was a row last yr after the ulste final - was this true then?
Matthew has just had an operation and i would say is still recovering.
Not sure about Niall though
Anyone at the game? Ive heard few rumour of the lineup- somethin like;
R Gallagher,
M Jones,
R Foy,
????
????
P Sherry
????
J Sherry
R Carson
????
Daniel Kille
????
P ward
S Ryder
????
Can anyone fill in the rest??
Quote from: FromAFar on January 04, 2009, 02:36:40 PM
Anyone at the game? Ive heard few rumour of the lineup- somethin like;
R Gallagher,
M Jones,
R Foy,
????
????
P Sherry
????
J Sherry
R Carson
????
Daniel Kille
????
P ward
S Ryder
????
Can anyone fill in the rest??
Your missing men are - Shane Goan, Damien Kelly, Paul Johnston, Enda Ferris, Ryan Keenan, Pat Cadden
Quote from: FermPundit on January 04, 2009, 07:04:48 PM
Quote from: FromAFar on January 04, 2009, 02:36:40 PM
Anyone at the game? Ive heard few rumour of the lineup- somethin like;
R Gallagher,
M Jones,
R Foy,
????
????
P Sherry
????
J Sherry
R Carson
????
Daniel Kille
????
P ward
S Ryder
????
Can anyone fill in the rest??
Your missing men are - Shane Goan, Damien Kelly, Paul Johnston, Enda Ferris, Ryan Keenan, Pat Cadden
Good man, were you at the game?
Quote from: FromAFar on January 04, 2009, 07:05:54 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on January 04, 2009, 07:04:48 PM
Quote from: FromAFar on January 04, 2009, 02:36:40 PM
Anyone at the game? Ive heard few rumour of the lineup- somethin like;
R Gallagher,
M Jones,
R Foy,
????
????
P Sherry
????
J Sherry
R Carson
????
Daniel Kille
????
P ward
S Ryder
????
Can anyone fill in the rest??
Your missing men are - Shane Goan, Damien Kelly, Paul Johnston, Enda Ferris, Ryan Keenan, Pat Cadden
Good man, were you at the game?
No, unfortunately not, I had to settle for the radio in the car.
Thought I'd resurrect the old account again for the upcoming season!!
Drew a game today we were coasting in - not a great start to the season. Few mistakes cost us at vital times - Ronnie had a few strange moments, and we made a bit of a howler for the goal conceded late on - think it was Ciaran McElroy who dropped a simple enough ball - unfortunately dropped it inside and wrong footed himself - most alert man being a Derry forward and scored a simple chance. Redeemed himself afterwards though with a cracking equaliser from under the stand.
We were coasting at all stages until the last 10mins - 5pts to 1pt ahead at half time - with good scores from Carson and Ferris in particular. Coasting through the second half as well thanks to scores from Pat Cadden, who disappointingly was the only scorer in this half until McElroys equaliser. Then came the Dery resurgence - but to be honest only for the concession of a bad goal we were well in control.
We certainly had a good bit more experience on the field than Derry - with some decent performances from some of the new players as well. Foy at Full Back, and Johnson were very sound in defence - foy looks a particularly classy footballer. Carson did ok in the middle of the field, but just needs to improve the fitness levels abit - but defintely an option there. Kille looked lively at CHF, some good touches and a decent range of passing. Ryder also looked pretty useful at full forward. Best of the old hands were Goan and Kelly in defence, with Keenan working hard as ever.
Don't think we found any answers today - but a few of the players will definitely have made a decent impression on O'Rourke.
Quote from: Erne Man on January 04, 2009, 09:35:09 PM
Thought I'd resurrect the old account again for the upcoming season!!
Drew a game today we were coasting in - not a great start to the season. Few mistakes cost us at vital times - Ronnie had a few strange moments, and we made a bit of a howler for the goal conceded late on - think it was Ciaran McElroy who dropped a simple enough ball - unfortunately dropped it inside and wrong footed himself - most alert man being a Derry forward and scored a simple chance. Redeemed himself afterwards though with a cracking equaliser from under the stand.
We were coasting at all stages until the last 10mins - 5pts to 1pt ahead at half time - with good scores from Carson and Ferris in particular. Coasting through the second half as well thanks to scores from Pat Cadden, who disappointingly was the only scorer in this half until McElroys equaliser. Then came the Dery resurgence - but to be honest only for the concession of a bad goal we were well in control.
We certainly had a good bit more experience on the field than Derry - with some decent performances from some of the new players as well. Foy at Full Back, and Johnson were very sound in defence - foy looks a particularly classy footballer. Carson did ok in the middle of the field, but just needs to improve the fitness levels abit - but defintely an option there. Kille looked lively at CHF, some good touches and a decent range of passing. Ryder also looked pretty useful at full forward. Best of the old hands were Goan and Kelly in defence, with Keenan working hard as ever.
Don't think we found any answers today - but a few of the players will definitely have made a decent impression on O'Rourke.
I don't think we'll unearth a huge amount of unknown talent during the McKenna cup campaign but it is pleasing to see O'Rouke giving the younger players in the county an opportunity to impress. With regards Carson and Seamus Ryder, both players will need to do quite a bit of gym work to get the fitness levels up to the required inter county standard. How did James Sherry get on at midfield?
Erneman you weren't at the same game as me. No doubt you should have had a bigger lead at half time as you were much better than derry. But the second half was a game that derry controlled. They also scored one goal and missed two other goals and won the second half by 9 scores to 5. I agree at the stage that derry finally scored the goal that changed the game in their favour fermanagh looked like they hd the game tied up, but that was to do with the derry misses. Derrys half back line dominated the second half. Only my view.
Made it to Enniskillen on Sunday as it fell over the holidays, probably won't get to many more but can't say I learned a whole pile from it.
First half was very encouraging. Young Foy from Tempo and Paul Johnston looked good reliable additions to the defence where Damien Kelly was very good as usual (bar shooting). The problem there is that barring injuries I don't see a position open back there, but a few good options with Owens and Bogue both back from cruciate trouble will see us quite sound in defence for another year. Don't think we'll see Clucker for a while due to soccer, but he'll be at No.6 come summer no doubt.
Gallagher didn't do himself many favours on Sunday, bit shaky and fumbly but he's shown enough this last 12 months for O'Rourke to keep him as first choice. Wouldn't be surprised to see someone else there for the next few games if only to keep everyone on their toes.
It's further ahead our problems lie though and I'm not sure there's any solutions there just yet. Kille opened well with some good perceptive passing, similar to Ryan Keenan, but shooting was off target and that's all we need up there. Ferris and Ryder bith started well but faded out of the game badly. Ryder in particular was giving his man a torrid time but maybe fitness caught up with him. He certainly deserves a few games there and could be the pick of the bunch. Has to be said though that it was a very experimental (at best) Derry side.
Found Paul Ward and Pat Cadden very frustrating at times. Both seemed to have trouble holding on to possession and choose to run when a pass was best option and the other way around and ended up being turned over far too often. Both have the talent to nail down staring spots but need a run of games at this level to bring them on. Cadden grew into the game and hit a few good scores. He seems to have bulked up a bit too but just needs the gametime now.
Midfield was puzzling throughout. Sherry was about the only player all day to make any clean catches but again seemed to let the game pass him by at times. Blobby done some very good things and hit a belter of a point but you'd know he's a novice at this level.
He's all left and 9 times out of 10 will hit a foot pass rather than hand pass. Suppose the training now will soon sort that out but he lost the ball countless times trying fancy foot passes. At one stage he charged forward to shoulder his man at midfield, the Derry man got possession seen the hit coming dodged it and went on a charge with Blobby left 20 yards away before he got turned. No doubt he has the ability though and I hope to see him later in the summer, maybe even in at No 14. Think he'd be a better option there than McBarron anyhow. Ryder could also state a case for that jersey too. Disappointing collapse when the game should have been dead, though but for a bad error from Ciaran McElroy it was all over. Good to see him come up with the equaliser and we had cahnces to win it thereafter. Suppose that bit of character at the death was one of the main positives.
All in all, it's a wait and see job. National League should be very interesting.
Couldn't get access to Tg4 today, how were Fermanagh? Bit of a disappointing result but suppose it matters little though the extra game or two in the knock-out stages would have been useful, heard Ryder scored a goal, did he impress again?
Saw the 2nd half....poor enough showing. Ryder took his goal well and also scored a nice point from play in the first half. It was pretty scrappy in the 2nd half from what I seen, so difficult to pick any players of note out, but for me, Ryder and Carson would appear to be the best out of the newcomers.
Ryder looks handy - saying that the Donegal no. 3 gave him too much room. But he took his goal well and could be one for the future alright.
Just back from BallyShannon there now.
Very poor game played in very bad conditions.
From a Fermanagh perspective the positives were Shane Lyons at full back and Paul Johnston at corner back.
Midfield was disappointing but they were up against a very strong and experienced Donegal midfield.
Still think Carson would make a great full forward or center half forward. He hit one or two lovely passes.
Up front Ryder did well when they got the ball into him. He looks like he could be a rough diamond but as somebody else pointed out,
the Donegal full back was not the best.
Killie did well in the corner and hit a couple of very nice frees. Just needs to back himself more often.
Do not think Fermanagh were to annoyed about the game. I think O'Rourke would prefer to get them at hard training for the next month or so
Donegal full back was Eamon McGee, who I have witnessed curbing Stevie McDonnell quite effectively in the past. Whilst he is probably not Donegal's first choice for full back, he is certainly not a bad player and is better than a lot of full backs across the country.
I never get too concerned about the results of any McKenna cup games. Given the weather today and the fact Fermanagh have only been training for the last two weeks, I thought they put in a solid performance. Ryan Carson played well in patches but he definately isn't a midfielder. His best positon would be full forward or centre half forward. He doesn't have the mobility for centre field. Seamus Ryder showed well today. He took his goal really well and as FermGael has mentioned he is a bit of a rough diamond. With good coaching over the next few months, he grow into that full forward position. Paul Johnston played well today and Michael Jones and Rory Foy put in a decent performances against Derry last weekend. Any ideas on team O'Rourke will put out on Wednesday night against Jordanstown?
If we can get even 2 new players from these games i think they will be considered very useful. I feel ryder with a bit of work could make a decent full forward, but he needs to play alot of the league games to build up experience of playin at this level. Foy and Jones will also put Sherry under alot of pressure for the corner back spot. Blobby could make an impact but currently seems very unfit so until this fitness level is built up it is hard to judge. Cecil seems to lack confidence at the minute at this level but he has shown me enough glimes of what he can do to make me think he has a chance of making it. Outside these however I dont think any of the other new players will make any impact this year anyhow.
Anyone in Brewster last night? Sounds like a decent result. Was Gallagher really lobbed from 30 yards? Was gonna happen some time I suppose, best now. Did Ferris do enough to keep his place in the NFL panel? Jones and Foy must have also impressed judging by the papers.
Raymie Johnston, Niall Leonard, Paul Ward and James Connolly dropped from the squad. A little harsh after a few McKenna cup games? Had high hopes for Ward myself, he was very good for Derrygonnelly last year.
Would I be right in thinking that Niall McGovern is the only university player with any chance of coming into the squad??
Just want to wish all the lisbellaw hurlers all the best for sundays all-ireland semi final against Dripsey.
Its some achievment for the hurlers to get this far, and only one match away from being the first fermanagh club to play in croke park!!
Come on the law!!!!!!
Quote from: 118cmal on January 20, 2009, 12:04:45 PM
Raymie Johnston, Niall Leonard, Paul Ward and James Connolly dropped from the squad. A little harsh after a few McKenna cup games? Had high hopes for Ward myself, he was very good for Derrygonnelly last year.
Would I be right in thinking that Niall McGovern is the only university player with any chance of coming into the squad??
I was sad to hear that Raymie Johnston had been dropped frm the squad. He has been a great servant to Fermanagh football over the years but I suppose its the right decision by Malachy with regards planning for the future. I wasn't that surpirsed to hear that Ward or Connolly didn't make the cut. Both are decent club players but neither has been able to replicate that form at county when given the opportunity.
I think Kieran (Jimmy) Leonard might also be on the Queens squad this year. He's a decent footballer and he could be drafted into the squad after the McKenna cup.
Quote from: Tempoman on January 20, 2009, 02:14:01 PM
Just want to wish all the lisbellaw hurlers all the best for sundays all-ireland semi final against Dripsey.
Its some achievment for the hurlers to get this far, and only one match away from being the first fermanagh club to play in croke park!!
Come on the law!!!!!!
Yep, good luck to Lisbellaw at the weekend. Let's hope they do the county proud.
"Niall McGovern - One to watch
By Ciaran Woods
c.woods@gaeliclife.com
His Queen's manager rates him as one of the best around, and Fermanagh county players have backed him to be part of their squad this summer. So who is the Fermanagh man who is grabbing so much attention in the QUB rearguard?
Belcoo's Niall McGovern has enjoyed a rapid rise to prominence over recent weeks, making the Queen's number three shirt his own. This Sunday he will put the shackles on Armagh's Ronan Clarke in the McKenna Cup, having already turned in an impressive display against Cavan last weekend. He's tipped for the very top by all those who have worked with him, and it seems almost a certainty that he will be a senior inter-county player before too long.
As a man who has been there and done that at the very highest level, including picking up an All-Ireland winners medal, Queen's boss O'Rourke is well placed to run the rule over the Belcoo man, and he is in no doubt about his capabilities.
"To me, he's a starting inter-county full-back, it's as simple as that. He's a top quality player."
McGovern has exploded onto the colleges scene this season, starring in each of Queens' Ryan Cup ties and has followed that up with an impressive start in the McKenna Cup against Cavan last Saturday night. Although admitting that he knew nothing of the player, O'Rourke says he has now firmly cemented his position at the heart of the Queen's defence.
"To be honest, I didn't know anything about the lad until he arrived at trials at the start of the year. Nobody at Queen's knew anything about him, and then this big lad showed up and was brilliant, right from day one.
"He went in for the first Ryan Cup game and hasn't looked back. We'd put him in at corner-back because we knew nothing about him, with Luke Howard at full-back. But he quickly made the move to full-back for us and he's been fantastic."
Like his Queen's boss, McGovern is a commanding figure in the back line. He gives his opponents few chances, and O'Rourke is impressed with what he has seen so far.
"He's very fast, and he's got great hands. Teams don't tend to test you too much in the air, but any time a high ball goes in, he comes out with it. He's got a great head on him, technically a very good tackler. A big focus of our game is how we play defensively, and he attacks the ball well when the time is right and gets in the right positions when it's not."
This Sunday, McGovern will again line out in the number three shirt for Queen's, and the Fermanagh man faces up to one of the toughest tests possible in the form of Armagh's Ronan Clarke. O'Rourke has played alongside and against Clarke enough times to appreciate his quality, and believes that it's the perfect test for the rookie full-back as he continues to build towards the Sigerson Cup and what he believes will be a summer in Fermanagh colours for McGovern.
"Sunday will be a massive test for him, and if he can handle Ronan Clarke, who is probably the best full-forward in the country, then the signs are good for what he can achieve.
"I'm sure that Fermanagh are keeping an eye on him and that they're aware of what he's doing. I think it's only a matter of time before you see him in Fermanagh senior colours."
What makes McGovern's rise to prominence all the more impressive is the fact that he has only just bounced back from a potentially career-threatening injury. In 2007 he played just two league games for the Belcoo club before damaging his cruciate ligament, causing him to miss the remainder of the 2007 season and returned in time for the 2008 campaign.
John Joe Stewart was manager of the Belcoo minors who, including McGovern, claimed the league and championship title. He went on to take charge of the club senior side, delivering the league title in 2007. Although McGovern missed that season through injury, he saw enough of the defender to know his capabilities and his versatility.
"He was impressive all year for the seniors. His preferred position I would say is centre-half, that's where I would have planned to play him. In the middle of the season we had to put him to full-back because our full-back got injured, but he moved back out the field for the rest of the year again."
"He's a lad who if he does get a chance then he'll grab it with both hands. He dedicates himself to his football and to his training. He doesn't mess around, and when he was out injured he put in serious hard work to get himself back.
"He's a player you'd definitely look forward to seeing more of in the future. I think that if he can keep himself injury-free and can keep on improving, then he's got a very bright future ahead of him."
McGovern's leadership qualities certainly cannot be questioned. Before making the move to Queen's, he was joint captain of the St Michael's Enniskillen MacRory Cup side. He has been a key player throughout his club career, and those who play alongside him are glowing in their praise of the defender.
One such colleague is Fermanagh's attacking ace Shane McCabe. A Belcoo club colleague, McCabe admits that running into McGovern is a daunting experience for any forward, the defender having worked hard to ensure that he's in the best possible condition for the challenges he faces.
"He's got tremendous strength. I'd have went up against him in training a few times, and he's the wrong boy to be running into! He reminds me very much of Barry Owens. He's very strong and powerful on the ball, and once he has possession he's not going to be knocked off the ball.
"He knows his own limitations. If he feels that he's not going to distribute it well enough, then he'll play a simple pass and offload it to one of his team-mates.
"He missed out for us when we won the league title, and he was sorely missed. I think he showed last season that he's a very good player, he's back in the fold and I think he's got a very big season ahead of him."
McCabe was part of the Fermanagh squad which took on Armagh in last year's Ulster final, and he knows just how tough of opponents the Orchard men are. It's never easy lining out against the likes of Ronan Clarke, especially when you're a relative newcomer to the scene as McGovern is, but McCabe is backing his clubmate to handle anything that is thrown at him, and emerge as a better player as a result.
"Those are the type of challenges you want. He's come strong again since his injury, and games against inter-county teams like Cavan and especially Armagh are what will bring him on as a player. They will add to his experience, and I think he'll be a much better player with a more complete game as a result."
McGovern will certainly be part of boss Darren Chapman's plans for the Fermanagh Under-21's in the coming months, but McCabe firmly believes that come championship time the defender will also find himself as part of the Fermanagh senior set-up. And if Malachy O'Rourke needs the Belcoo man's phone number to invite him into the panel, then McCabe will be only too happy to oblige.
"One thing about Fermanagh, because of the size of the county, is that you have to get your best players in. Malachy will be up to date with how Niall is getting on with Queen's. He's got the ability and the mentality, he's got the whole package there and I'm sure we'll soon be seeing him lining out with Fermanagh."
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"He's got tremendous strength. I'd have went up against him in training a few times, and he's the wrong boy to be running into! He reminds me very much of Barry Owens. He's very strong and powerful on the ball, and once he has possession he's not going to be knocked off the ball.
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great, just what we need, a full-back...
The Impartial Reporter have recently updated their website and I must say its first class. Its very much appreciated by those of us who don't live down at home.
As always, their GAA coverage continues to be impressive
http://www.impartialreporter.com/plus/ (http://www.impartialreporter.com/plus/)
Anyone hear the Lisbellaw result?
John Mitchell's Liverpool won with a few Fermanagh men in tow.
Quote from: ExiledGael on January 25, 2009, 05:37:06 PM
Anyone hear the Lisbellaw result?
John Mitchell's Liverpool won with a few Fermanagh men in tow.
Yeah, great results for the Merseysiders. Paul Melanaphy (Kinawley) and John McDermott (Brookeboro) are part of the squad. Didn't hear how Lisbellaw got on yet.
unfortunately lisbellaw were beaten yesterday 2-13 - 2-5. The score was 1-5 to 1-3 at half time to the cork men, but the law had young duffy sent off.
Hard luck to all involved, they've done the county proud, and they will be back to compete at this stage in the future.
How did McDermott stay on today??
He gave Finlay the freedom of Brewster park today.
We had no midfield today at all. Both Sherry and O'Brien were disappointing today in the primary job of winning or breaking ball.
SOB scored 2 nice points but he was given a lesson today at midfield.
Goan and Lyons played well at the back and Jones recovered well after a doggy first 15.
Upfront Ferris showed abit and Ryder was not bad in the first half. Tired in the second.
Eamonn was well marshalled and Lyttle was disappointing and his man scored 1-2.
we will do well to stay up. These new rules do not suit us and McGrath, Owens, Murphy and McCluskey are a huge loss.
I was just saying in the NFL division 2 thread that today showed the real lack of strength in depth we have at the moment. In the final 20 minutes today we had such an inexperienced team. Jones, Kille, Ryder, O'Brien, Foy, Ferris and Daryl Keenan where all making their national league debuts today. There was no way we were going to peg back a strong Monaghan team. I wouldn't be too critical of anyone today though. Malachy O'Rourke is planning for the future by blooding these talented but young players in the senior squad. It might take time but we must be patient. If we avoid relegation this year it will be a massive achievement. Its essential that we get senior players like McCluksey and McGrath back as soon as possible.
agree and disagree FermPundit.
Monaghan did not have a full team on today.
Woods and D Freeman came of the bench along with a few other players who would have started last year.
They played very well today and looked to KICK a ball 30 yards. There players are comfortable kick passing the ball and running with it.
We are not confident with our kick passing and always look for the short fist pass.
We were easy to defend against today because Monaghan just dropped men back, invited us to shoot from 30 yards +
and when the attack broke down they hit us at pace and then gave a good ball into the full forward line or hit good cross field passes.
They had variation in there tactics
From the sounds of it, McGrath and Owens are going to be out for a while. Clucker has other commitments with the soccer from what i heard today
and Murphy is in Oz for a another while yet. That is the best we have. Maybe Ciaran Reilly to throw in but he will not solve the midfield sector.
Shane O'Brien has potential but he is a bit light for midfield yet. How many time did Clerkin out muscle him when they were competing for a kickout.
Where was Carson today?? We needed his physical presence in midfield. He played most of the Mckenna cup but did not feature today. Is he off the panel?
I hate to go on about it but Finlay destroyed McDermott today. He should have been switched off him but he was not. We then moved him into midfield
and guess what Monaghan did?? Moved Finlay to midfield where he scored the point that secured the game after Fermanagh had got within touching distance.
Surly Lyons would be a better man at CHB and drop McDermott back to Full back where he did a good job last year.
I actually thought McDermott improved when he went to midfield today. Yes, Finlay dominated here again but we really no other options at centre field. Carson is still included in the squad but wasn't available for selection today. Anyway, Carson isn't fit enough for midfield. O'Rourke tried him there in the McKenna cup and he struggled badly. Unfortunately the bad habits from last season where still present today. The inability to score from distance and hit long passes meant that Monaghan were able to nullify most of our attacks quite easily. Despite the defeat today, the lads derserve credit for fighting for the whole game. Monaghan are one of the best teams in this division, so this was always going to be a difficult game to start the league campaign. I saw enough today to be optimistic about the rest of the year. We're not that far away. If we can get some of the senior lads back in the next few weeks we have every chance of staying in this division. Its going to be a challenge but we just have to get our heads down, work hard and do our best in the remaining 6 games.
FERMANAGH SENIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP
ROUND 1:
LISNASKEA v. BROOKEBOROUGH
BELCOO v. ENNISKILLEN
ROSLEA v. TEEMORE
ST PATRICKS v. ERNE GAELS
QUARTER FINALS:
BELCOO/ENNISKILLEN v. DEVENISH
ST PATRICKS/ERNE GAELS v. ROSLEA/TEEMORE
LISNASKEA/BROOKEBOROUGH v. NEWTOWNBUTLER
DERRYGONNELLY v. TEMPO
INTERMEDIATE CHAMPIONSHIP
QUARTER FINALS :
KINAWLEY v. AUGHADRUMSEE
IRVINESTOWN v. ST JOSEPHS
SEMI-FINALS:
COA v. IRVINESTOWN/ST JOSEPHS
KINAWLEY/AUGHADRUMSEE v. DERRYLIN
JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP FINAL
MAGUIRESBRIDGGE v. BELNALECK
Surprised no-one posted this, sorry for the capitals it's taken from Hoganstand.
Quote from: FermGael on February 01, 2009, 10:38:37 PM
agree and disagree FermPundit.
Monaghan did not have a full team on today.
Woods and D Freeman came of the bench
From what I read on the Monaghan message boards Damian Freeman is a spent force and is unlikely to feature much this year, whilst Woods is heavy but granted will improve as the year goes on
Division 2 will be a battle. Murphy is the big loss at the minute. We could probably survive without any of the others apart from him and Marty. Indeed if Sherry could've stepped up to the plate then we could have moulded Womble into the Full Forward that we were so lacking last year....
What about Niall Leonard? No sign of him getting a run out in the full back line? Put him FB and Lyons CHB?
Quote from: Caid on February 05, 2009, 10:42:28 PM
Quote from: FermGael on February 01, 2009, 10:38:37 PM
agree and disagree FermPundit.
Monaghan did not have a full team on today.
Woods and D Freeman came of the bench
From what I read on the Monaghan message boards Damian Freeman is a spent force and is unlikely to feature much this year, whilst Woods is heavy but granted will improve as the year goes on
Division 2 will be a battle. Murphy is the big loss at the minute. We could probably survive without any of the others apart from him and Marty. Indeed if Sherry could've stepped up to the plate then we could have moulded Womble into the Full Forward that we were so lacking last year....
What about Niall Leonard? No sign of him getting a run out in the full back line? Put him FB and Lyons CHB?
Yeah, I would have Leonard in my squad but he didn't appear to impress Malachy in the trials before Christmas. When Clucker is back in the squad, he'll go to CHB. I'm actually happy with Lyons at FB. He had a decent game on Sunday. Young Niall McGovern has been getting rave reviews this year playing for QUB as well, but this is probably a long term option only. Given our limitations at centre field is there a possibility that Barry Owens could play here with Marty later in the year, provided he's back to full fitness?
Quote from: FermPundit on February 05, 2009, 11:17:35 PM
Quote from: Caid on February 05, 2009, 10:42:28 PM
Quote from: FermGael on February 01, 2009, 10:38:37 PM
agree and disagree FermPundit.
Monaghan did not have a full team on today.
Woods and D Freeman came of the bench
From what I read on the Monaghan message boards Damian Freeman is a spent force and is unlikely to feature much this year, whilst Woods is heavy but granted will improve as the year goes on
Division 2 will be a battle. Murphy is the big loss at the minute. We could probably survive without any of the others apart from him and Marty. Indeed if Sherry could've stepped up to the plate then we could have moulded Womble into the Full Forward that we were so lacking last year....
What about Niall Leonard? No sign of him getting a run out in the full back line? Put him FB and Lyons CHB?
Yeah, I would have Leonard in my squad but he didn't appear to impress Malachy in the trials before Christmas. When Clucker is back in the squad, he'll go to CHB. I'm actually happy with Lyons at FB. He had a decent game on Sunday. Young Niall McGovern has been getting rave reviews this year playing for QUB as well, but this is probably a long term option only. Given our limitations at centre field is there a possibility that Barry Owens could play here with Marty later in the year, provided he's back to full fitness?
I think Owens could defiently play midfield, but it would depend on his fitness though. Shane Lyons is best suited to CHB, so I'd say in the Championship, McDermott will play full back.
Think I saw enough to give me a bit of optimism for the summer - we were badly beaten up in the middle of the field - but when we consider that we were missing 4 key men in McGrath, Murphy, Mccluskey and Ciaran McElroy from this area we were always going to struggle.
I would love to see Barry playing midfield later on in the year, but as has been said above it will depend on his fitness. O'Brien will be a great option in the half forward line - plenty of drive and decent strength, and an eye for a score or two which is something we badly need. If Ryder proves himself playing in Division 2 and can get fitter and sharper as the league goes on, I have seen enough from him to suggest he can do a job in the championship. He has great vision and showed some decent touches - on a different day we could have had another goal or two off some of his flicks.
I was disappointed with James Sherry on sunday - I don't know whether he is a realistic option any more come championship - hence the need for Barry in midfield. Agree that Lyons should be given a run in the half back line through the league - CLucker will man no. 6 when he returns, but Lyons could be a useful option in the halfback line.
Little and Keenan were well off the pace on sunday - but hopefully that is only shortterm.
If we could go to Navan and get 2pts off a Meath team who appear to be in disarray it would be a huge result - we then have 3 weeks before the next game to get a few of the injuries cleared up, and maybe give Malachy a few more options before we head to Cork.
Inspired by some of the threads on the main board, I had a discussion via email today with one of my friends regarding Fermanagh's best XV over the past 15 or 20 years. I relay it here for comments/criticism:
My XV
McAdam
McGuinness Owens Goan
Johnston McCluskey K Gallagher
McGrath Brewster
M Little Rory G T Brewster
Ray G S Maguire E Maguire
My mate's XV and my response:
Fermanagh's best team of last 10-15 years
Christopher Breen
Paddy McGuinness
Barry Owens
Paul Courtney
Shane McDermott
Ryan McCluskey
Tommy McElroy
Paul Brewster
Martin McGrath
Shane King
Rory Gallagher
Mark Little
Raymond Gallagher
Stephen Maguire
Eamon Maguire
How the hell can you pick McDermott?! He's been one of Fermanagh's worst players in many games over the years - never reproduces his St Pats form.
Also, Tommy McElroy, a telling contribution over the last few years granted, but selection over Raymie Johnston? Arguably Fermanagh's most consistent performer over the last ten years? That is akin to selecting Rafael at right back in a Man U XI over the last ten years ahead of Gary Neville!
Interesting one and it's hard to ever come to agreement, suppose that's the whole point of it.
Cormac McAdam would have to get the keeper spot. From your initial team Goan I suppose would be a little fortunate but I'm not old enough to offer many viable alternatives, Collie Curran maybe unlucky around midfield but it's hard to argue with Marty and Paul Brewster. Certs would have to be McAdam, Paddy McGuinness, Barry Owens, Clucker, Marty, Little, Eamon, both Gallaghers and big Stevie. That's talking of the last 10/15 years though really but this is to determine the best Fermanagh team ever.
McGinnity obviously takes his place in that, Tommy Durnien too from the older generations I know of.
Good debate this. The team named by Caid has everyone you would expect. The only other players you could possibly include would be Shane King, Mickey Lilly, Ciaran Campbell, JJ Treacy. You really could go on all day naming players who deserve a starting position. What would be more difficult is naming the greatest ever Fermanagh player. Now that would cause a few arguments!! In my opinion, I think you would have to go for Peter McGinnity as best all round player. Raymie Gallagher is the best forward and Paddy McGuinness/Barry Owens would be the best defender.
Paddy McGuinness was an excellent football and servant of Fermanagh football. But Barry Owens is considered by many across the length and breadth of the country to be the best full back in the land. The only time we ever had a player talked about in a similar breath was McGinnity. As a result these two would have to be numbers one and two.
Quote from: Caid on February 10, 2009, 08:59:24 PM
Paddy McGuinness was an excellent football and servant of Fermanagh football. But Barry Owens is considered by many across the length and breadth of the country to be the best full back in the land. The only time we ever had a player talked about in a similar breath was McGinnity. As a result these two would have to be numbers one and two.
Yeah, I suppose that's true. Is Paddy McGuinnes still playing club football with the Loup in Derry? He must be in his late thirties now, the same age as Paul Brewster I think.
Quote from: FermPundit on February 10, 2009, 09:04:39 PM
Quote from: Caid on February 10, 2009, 08:59:24 PM
Paddy McGuinness was an excellent football and servant of Fermanagh football. But Barry Owens is considered by many across the length and breadth of the country to be the best full back in the land. The only time we ever had a player talked about in a similar breath was McGinnity. As a result these two would have to be numbers one and two.
Yeah, I suppose that's true. Is Paddy McGuinnes still playing club football with the Loup in Derry? He must be in his late thirties now, the same age as Paul Brewster I think.
Big Brew and Paddy McGuinness did their A Levels together at St. Michael's. I can't argue with many fella's selections, about 12/13 of them are dead certs. McGinnity has to be the best player we've ever had, but Barry Owens and Mick Brewster don't come far behind.
McAdam
McGuinness Owens Lilly
R Curran McCluskey K Gallagher
McGrath Brewster
M Little Collie Curran P Greene
Ray G S Maguire M Gallagher
No harm lads but Tyson is a far better corner forward than Eamonn Maguire.
would have Paul Greene on ahead of T brewster as well.
Probably one of the most gifted forwards i have ever seen before injury.
Rory Gallagher is with out a doubt an unreal footballer but this is a team and i would rather have Coliie at CHF than him
would have Lilly in ahead of Goan and Raymie Curran at WHB.
Raymie Johnston would not even make the sub bench Caid
Quote from: FermGael on February 10, 2009, 11:15:25 PM
McAdam
McGuinness Owens Lilly
R Curran McCluskey K Gallagher
McGrath Brewster
M Little Collie Curran P Greene
Ray G S Maguire M Gallagher
No harm lads but Tyson is a far better corner forward than Eamonn Maguire.
would have Paul Greene on ahead of T brewster as well.
Probably one of the most gifted forwards i have ever seen before injury.
Rory Gallagher is with out a doubt an unreal footballer but this is a team and i would rather have Coliie at CHF than him
would have Lilly in ahead of Goan and Raymie Curran at WHB.
Raymie Johnston would not even make the sub bench Caid
Have to agree with you about Collie Curran, the CHF position was his for many years. Not sure about Raymie Curran though. A great player but probably didn't play long enough at inter county level. Love or hate him, Rory Gallagher has to be on the team, if not at CHF then possiby FF.
I'd agree that there are around 11/12 certs who will be on everyones teams - it's difficult to compare the Fermanagh teams even over such a short period as the last 20years - as they have been operating at such different levels over that period of time - from Division 4 in the early to mid-90's, to a higher level since 1999/2000.
My stab is:
McAdam
McGuinness
Owens
Lilly
Cox
McCluskey
Tommy Callaghan
McGrath
Brewster
Curran
Rory G
Little
Mark Gallagher
Stevie Maguire
Raymie G
There are a few close calls for me - Cox v Raymie Curran, Little v Paul Greene. Full forward line picks itself - Tyson and Raymie Gallagher were 2 of the best around - if only they were both 10years younger!
I'd reckon 7or8 of the above would be on the all-time team with Ciaran Campbell, Tommy Durnien, Peter McGinnity, PT Tracey also being dead certs.
McGinnity is our most naturally gifted footballer, but Barry Owens would be well up there, and hopefully has a few years left yet.
Forgot about Tommy Callaghan Erne man. Great gootballer and a gentleman of the field.
Just read a bit in todays Gaelic Life.
Seems that McCarron may not be the only recruit the gaels are to get from Fintona.
Any ideas who else is on the way men?
Quote from: FermGael on February 13, 2009, 09:24:38 PM
Just read a bit in todays Gaelic Life.
Seems that McCarron may not be the only recruit the gaels are to get from Fintona.
Any ideas who else is on the way men?
I haven't heard anything FG. I take it this is to do with the row in Fintona regarding soccer and GAA committments?
yes. was an aricle about it in todays Gaelic life.
McCarron was interviewd about it. he reackons there are about another 8 players about to switch to other clubs over the soccer row
Quote from: FermGael on February 13, 2009, 10:44:27 PM
yes. was an aricle about it in todays Gaelic life.
McCarron was interviewd about it. he reackons there are about another 8 players about to switch to other clubs over the soccer row
Surely these players would transfer to other local Tyrone clubs like Eskra, Trillick and Drumragh? I haven't included Tattyreagh as I assume local rivalry would be an issue here. Is there a reason why they want to play club football in Fermanagh?
Surprised there's no reaction to the Fermanagh selection in the IN today.
No Mickey Lily, Tyson, Mark Little to name a few from the last few years. Few very interesting characters on it especially Fr Ignatious McQuillan.
Quote from: ExiledGael on February 17, 2009, 08:07:53 PM
Surprised there's no reaction to the Fermanagh selection in the IN today.
No Mickey Lily, Tyson, Mark Little to name a few from the last few years. Few very interesting characters on it especially Fr Ignatious McQuillan.
I didn't get the IN today. Could you post the team EG?
far from a team, more like a squad of forty.
From IN:
Who will Erne the nod as the finest in Fermanagh?
Micheal Breslin picks out some of the players who have graced the Lakeland county over the years...
Eamon McDonnell
THE youngest of five Derrylin brothers, all of whom played on the same county team at least once, Eamon is still talked about today. He captained the 1933 Dr McKenna Cup-winning side, playing in his favoured half-back spot. A very strong player, he could be relied on for scores. He also played for Ulster.
Charlie McDonnell
RATED by his younger brother, Eamon, as a better player than himself. Blessed with terrier-like qualities in the tackle, he played at full-back and, along with Eamon, played for Fermanagh in the 1935 NFL final where they were beaten by Mayo. Also an Ulster player. He later transferred to the Kinawley club.
Tommy McDonnell
STANDING at 6' 2", he was the ideal midfielder on the 1932 and 1935 teams. He had a terrific catch and a great kick. He was a big loss to his club when he joined the Gardai and their GAA club. Another who represented his province.
Johnny Monaghan
THE Ederney clubman also played on the '33 and '35 teams. Although short in stature, his fierce strength and pace made him an ideal corner-forward.
Hugh D'Arcy
CAPTAIN of the Belnaleck club, which was a force in this era, he went on to represent Fermanagh and, later, switched to Omagh St Enda's. Big and forceful, he was a reliable and accurate scorer.
Tommy Durnien
THE Lisnaskea legend captained the Fermanagh team that won its very first Ulster (junior) title in 1943. Played in his customary role of centre half-forward. Regarded by many who saw him play as the best player they had ever seen. Renowned as a great free-taker. Played in the Ulster senior final in 1945, having won a Railway Cup medal in '43. In 15 years as a player and captain, the Emmets won 13 senior championships and 12 senior leagues. At one stage, they went 44 games without being defeated.
Eamon Maguire
BUILT like Johnny Monaghan, with the same pace and strength, he played at half-forward in the winning '43 Ulster side. Interestingly, he and Monaghan went on to become fiercely loyal clubmen for their respective clubs, in his case Derrygonnelly.
Paddy Clarke
ALSO played at centre-forward on the '43 team, he came from a renowned Teemore footballing family. Could always be relied on to produce the goods.
James Cassidy
THE Teemore clubman is one of six selected from the 1959 All-Ireland junior championship-winning team. Playing at centre-half back, he possessed a great spring off the ground for his size and had a strong kick with both feet.
Mick Brewster
PLAYED at midfield on the 1959 team and was picked for Ulster. In the following year, Fermanagh ran Down, the All-Ireland winners in 1960, to a couple of points in the Ulster senior championship. Was a good all-rounder, very committed and had two good feet. He possessed a beautiful kicking style off the ground.
PT Treacy
WON a fistful of medals with Devenish and had a distinguished county career. Also won on an Ulster call-up. He could play at centre half-forward or midfield, was very good with both feet and had a great shot. Moved to the Carryduff club in Down and played alongside his son, Brendan who sadly died in a road traffic accident in 1986.
Frank McGurn
THE Belnaleck clubman, along with Kevin Srenan, was the man the '59 team looked to for scores and, inevitably, he delivered. He was very agile and tricky, making him difficult to mark and he took full advantage of his lack of height to sail past defenders. Tough, with a good shot.
JJ Treacy
A BROTHER of PT, he is the last of the five '59 men. Played at right half-back in the '59 team and, despite damaging his collar-bone in the replayed semi-final, insisted on turning out for the UK All-Ireland final where he was marking Seamus Harrison, a former Kildare and Leinster player. Later steered Fermanagh to successive U21 All-Ireland final and managed the seniors for a spell.
Johnny McDonnell
THE Brookeboro clubman played at half-forward or corner-forward. He started his career with the Knocks Club, winning a JFC in 1956. By the time he joined Brookeboro in 1960, he had won an Ulster junior championship medal. He was still playing in 1971 when Brookeboro were beaten by Teemore in the county final. He played in goals in that game and, in the opposite goals was James Cassidy, two greats whose careers were winding down. In the 1971/'72 season, he helped his club to another JFC final, but they lost to Ederney.
'Sean Maguire'
WHO was the Fermanagh captain who played under a pseudonym and kept his identity so intact that his vice-captain accepted the 1959 All-Ireland Junior Football Championship trophy? He was Fr Ignatius McQuillan from the Newtownbutler club, who was then on the teaching staff of St Columb's College in Derry. His football name, 'Sean Maguire' appeared faithfully in the team lists for he was playing at a time when some in the Church frowned on clergy taking part in physical sport. That restriction, however, failed to dent his performances for Fermanagh as they careered to their first-ever national title.
Eamon McPartland
THE Belcoo clubman never won a county senior championship medal, but was a regular on the Fermanagh team, usually at midfield, and won an Ulster cap on the strength of his performances which continued well into the '70s. It was a lean decade for the county.
Hugh McCabe
HE joined McPartland when he transferred from his native Aughadrumsee to Belcoo. By then, he had won a handful of Division Two medals and his displays at centre half-back won him a call-up for the county seniors along with a couple of club colleagues. He was both a stylish and inspirational player who would go on to manage Fermanagh, being famously denied a shock win over Armagh in a replay in the 1993 Ulster Championship.
John Donnelly
BORN in Coa, he played his club football with Trillick but kept his county allegiance and, in those lean years, was an inspirational full-forward. Won county honours for Trillick but, sadly had retired in 1981, the year before Fermanagh won through to the Ulster senior championship final. A loyal Fermanagh man, he managed the county for a spell.
Peter McGinnity
IN what was a glorious decade for the county, Roslea native, Peter McGinnity's star blazed right from the start. He won an Ulster Minor League medal in 1970 and, whilst still a minor, came on as a sub for the 1970 and '71 U21 sides that won Ulster titles in those years, reaching the All-Ireland finals where they were twice beaten by Cork. His senior debut quickly followed. He was then playing for St John's, helping them to an Ulster club medal.
When he transferred to Roslea in the early '80s, county titles started coming their way, and an Ulster losers' medal. In 1982, Fermanagh won through to the Ulster final, where they were beaten by Armagh but, in the following year, he became Fermanagh's first Allstar and was regularly picked for Railway Cup duty. Enjoyed success as manager of St Michael's, Enniskillen's MacRory and Corn na nOg sides.
Gerry Lynch
BEGAN playing senior football for Roslea at the age of 16 in 1968, and was still playing at the age of 41, winning a junior championship medal. Won an Ulster Minor League medal and an Ulster U21 medal in 1971, beating Tyrone in the final where he was marking Frank McGuigan.
Left-footed, he played at half-back for the county, but featured at times at midfield for his club, ending his long senior career at the age of 38 at corner-back. He missed only one game for his club in Centenary Year when they won the double. Has three championship medals.
Peter Greene
HAD a long innings with Belcoo without winning the coveted New York Gold Cup. However, he had banked a regular spot as the county goalkeeper.
A terrific shot stopper, he did all he could to help his team to an Ulster title in 1982. Should have earned his place on the Ulster Railway Cup team, but the stronger counties won out. Later managed Fermanagh for a while.
Jimmy Cleary
IN a football career which was stop-start due to his exploits on the soccer pitch with Glentoran and Northern Ireland, Jimmy Cleary still proved that he was one of the best players ever to be produced by Fermanagh.
A dashing wing-forward, he won two senior championships with his club, Enniskillen Gaels, and also represented Ulster. His journey to the World Cup in Spain 1982 denied him a chance to line out in the Ulster final. Many Fermanagh fans still consider that his presence on the day may have altered the result.
Ciaran Campbell
THE Tempo strongman was the ideal full-back. Won an Ulster Minor League medal in 1970 and, still a minor, was picked by JJ Treacy for the 1970 and '71 U21 teams. A regular on the senior team and, like the rest, tasted bitter disappointment in '82. Safe and dependable, had the perfect temperament for a footballer.
Barney Reilly
BRENDAN (Barney) was an iconic figure for Teemore, his head-down approach and never-say-die attitude a constant threat to opposing defences. His unique playing career spanned four decades. He won five county championship medals with Teemore (1969-'83), then switched to Navan in Meath and picked up another handful. In fact, he played into his early 40s. A member of the 1982 Ulster final side, and won two Ulster U21 medals in 1970 and 1971.
Dom Corrigan
ANOTHER member of the '82 Ulster final team, he took over the full-forward spot from John Donnelly and made it his own. His all-action style and enthusiasm rubbed off on his colleagues, be it with the Kinawley club or the county.
The Brian Borus had previously won county senior premier titles, but not championship and, in Dom's time, they came perilously close to breaking their duck in 1993 under Jim Carty's managership. But, like McGinnity, he secured success at college level and managed Fermanagh to a NFL semi-final place and the quarter-finals of the Qualifiers in 2003.
Gerry McElroy
THE former Queen's Player of the Year (1976) was noted for his deadly left foot which gave long service to Lisnaskea Emmet's, and county, being a squad member of the 1977 Dr McKenna Cup team and coming on as a sub in the '82 Ulster final ("I think the occasion alone was just too much for the players," he later remarked). Won county championships with the Emmet's in 1977 and 1980. Was in Pat King's back-up team that helped the county to an All-Ireland B championship success in 1996.
Cormac McAdam
WAS goalkeeper for Lisnaskea and Fermanagh for a lengthy spell and reached the heights when he captained Fermanagh to an All-Ireland B championship success in 1996. Played in all five knock-out matches, a tribute to his fitness. Got his call-up to the county senior panel in 1987, and in 1991 was the Emmets' Player of the Year after winning the double. Was Fermanagh captain in 1997 when they won the Dr McKenna Cup. Retired in 2000 through injury. His agility and the fact he lives in the townland of Keady near Lisnaskea gave him the nickname, 'The Keady Cat'.
Paddy McGuinness
RATED by many as the finest full-back of his time, he was full-back on the 1994 Ulster U21 championship winning side, the county's 16th Ulster title in 110 years. Stylish and unflappable, he possessed vision and pace and went on to represent his county and province, winning an Ulster club championship medal when he transferred to the Loup club. Missed out on an All-Ireland junior championship medal with Fermanagh in 1996 through injury, but was there when Fermanagh won in 2000, being a finalist the previous year.
Raymond Gallagher
THE Erne Gaels player was also a member of that 1994 U21 winning side, but was already an established senior county player and in 2000, won a Railway Cup medal. Featured in those two League (semi-final) and Qualifiers (quarter-final) games at Croke Park where, on each occasion, Tyrone came out on top. Had some consolation when he helped Fermanagh to All-Ireland B titles in 1996 and 2000.
Rory Gallagher
A COUSIN of Raymond, he came to prominence when he captained Fermanagh College to an All-Ireland Vocational Schools' title in 1996, playing alongside the late Paul McGirr. He scored eight points in that game. Another Ulster player. In 1996, an All-Ireland Junior B championship winners' medal came his way, his pointed free earning Fermanagh a replay against Longford. Won a Dr McKenna Cup medal in 1997 and another All-Ireland B title medal in 2000. Was not involved in the 2003 or '04 campaigns. While not one for getting possession, he had an outstanding footballing brain, a very accurate kick pass and lethal finishing.
Paul Brewster
ARGUABLY Fermanagh's most successful footballer with five Railway Cup medals to his name together with an extended county career that brought him All-Ireland B medal in 1996 and 2000 and, the year before, an Ulster club losers medal with the Gaels. An outstanding and forceful midfielder, he captained the team.
Collie Curran
ANOTHER Lisnaskea Emmets player who played for Ulster. Had a distinguished career that should have brought more rewards his way. His superb fitness was the benchmark for his team mates. Won an All-Ireland B medal in 1996, having played in all five knock-out games. Comes from a famous footballing family and is regarded as one of the greats by the Emmets.
Stephen Maguire
MADE his debut for Fermanagh in 1997 and went on to have devastating years at full-forward in 2000, 2001 and 2004. Indeed, rarely did he relinquish the number 14 jersey during his nine-year inter-county career which was cut short at the age of 28 through injury. Known for his physique, Maguire was also quick on his feet and possessed a keen football brain. Always eager to bring others into the game. He finished as Fermanagh's top scorer on their never-to-be-forgotten run to the All-Ireland semi-final in 2004.
Tom Brewster
THE Enniskillen Gaels clubman will forever be remembered for his point that, finally, ended Fermanagh's poor record of losing to Armagh, and set up an All-Ireland semi-final against Mayo to whom they lost in a replay.
Won a Dr McKenna Cup medal in 1997 and was involved in the '03 and '04 campaigns, a sub in the drawn game and starting the replay against Mayo. Won an All-Ireland B title medal in 2000 as team captain and, the year before, just missed out on an Ulster club medal with the Gaels. A stylish player, with a gifted left foot, he can double as midfielder or forward.
Barry Owens
THE two-time Allstar made a fairytale comeback in last year's Ulster SFC semi-final against Derry following heart surgery, helping Fermanagh to an Ulster final meeting with Armagh. Sadly, he sustained a cruciate knee injury in the drawn match and is still making his way back to full fitness. An iconic figure for Teemore and Fermanagh, he was part of the dream team that almost made it to the All-Ireland final in 2004. Has represented Ulster.
Ryan McCluskey
WAS involved in the 2003 and '04 campaigns. His Ulster selection reflects his high standing. An attack-conscious player with a gifted footballing brain. Was on the Enniskillen Gaels side that were beaten by a single point by Crossmaglen in the 1999 Ulster Senior Club Championship final.
Eamonn Maguire
HELPED St Patrick's to their first-ever county championship title last year. Part of the 2004 team and, since then, his stock has steadily risen. Although slight of build, his wirey physique and footballing skills brings him into areas where defenders fear to tread. For one who is not so tall, he has a phenomenal leap.
Marty McGrath
another iconic figure for club and county. His 2003/2004 exploits brought him an Allstar. Came on as a sub in the 2000 All-Ireland Junior B final win. Another who has come through ill-health to don the green jersey once more.
He is a consistent performer who, when he shakes off his current knee injury, will be spurring Fermanagh to even greater heights this year.
Sisn't the Impartial Reporter or Fermanagh Herald run a similar sort of thing a few years back to identify the best players over the years? Think the readers voted for it as well. A lot of those pen pics seem very familiar....
Haven't seen the Herald in a bit but Mick Breslin done that piece for the Irish News and he works for the Fermanagh Herald. Unless he stole it off the Impartial.
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can't understand how wee doc and phildy don't make that list
two of the most gifted players to take the field in fermanagh
Quote from: sidestep on February 20, 2009, 07:52:54 PM
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can't understand how wee doc and phildy don't make that list
two of the most gifted players to take the field in fermanagh
Excuse my ignorance, but who is wee doc and phildy??
I think sidestep is referring to Eamon Doherty (wee Doc) and Aidran Campbell (phildy). Eamon was the first man to captain Tempo to championship success in the early 70's and Phildy was probably the most talented player on that team that went on to further league and championship success (unfortunately no Tempo teams have managed this feat since!!!). They probably weren't included as I think (sidestep might be able to put me right on this !!) they only played for Fermanagh at underage level up to under-21, like I said not 100% on this! Phildy is a brother of Ciaran the full-back on the '82 Ulster final team
I think I heard Peter Quinn say one time that Adrian Campbell was the msot talented footballer he played against
Quote from: Caid on February 22, 2009, 04:24:51 PM
I think I heard Peter Quinn say one time that Adrian Campbell was the msot talented footballer he played against
How come he didn't play for Fermanagh at senior level?
How come he didn't play for Fermanagh at senior level?
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Not a 100% sure on this but think it was because he moved to America. From all accounts he was a tremendously naturally talented player, who would have been the creative drive of that successful team in the '70s. Also if rumour is to be believed he new how to have a good time when not playing, however, think he did play for Fermanagh seniors but not for a lengthy spell due to emigration.
Anybody going to Cork this weekend??
Its will be very tough to get anything from this game, but heres hoping!!!!
Quote from: Fermanaghandsam on March 06, 2009, 06:54:00 PM
Anybody going to Cork this weekend??
Its will be very tough to get anything from this game, but heres hoping!!!!
Yeah, heading down to Cork tomorrow morning. This is an extremely difficult game of Fermanagh but at the same time no one expects them to get a win, so the pressure is off. In the last league game against Meath, Marty McGrath made a big difference in midfield. In his holding role, he allowed James Sherry to move forward. This is a role Sherry feels more comfortable with. Up front, Shane O'Brien has shown moments of real quality. However, other players such as Enda Ferris and Seamus Ryder need to make bigger contributions. Both players inexperienced at this level, so lets hope they improve as they year goes on.
Overall, I think Fermanagh have a chance of causing an upset on Sunday but I would expect Cork to win by 5 points.
Well FP - how was todays performance and the Cork trip?
I see Daryl Keenan scored - how did he play?
Quote from: Caid on March 08, 2009, 08:31:56 PM
Well FP - how was todays performance and the Cork trip?
I see Daryl Keenan scored - how did he play?
Great weekend, Caid. The journey back up the road today was tough going but the trip was well worth it.
There was about 200 Fermanagh people down for the game.
Daryl came on for his bro in the second half and he played really well. He scored two points, one with each foot.
The overall performance today wasn't too bad but we still have the inability to convert possession into points on the score board.
BY DAMIAN CAMPBELL
CORK ..................................... 0-10
FERMANAGH ........................... 0-7
Fermanagh slipped to their second defeat in the league when they had a fruitless journey to Pairc Ui Chaoimh, losing out by three points to home side Cork.
This away tie always had the appearance of being one of the toughest assignments that the Erne side would have to face, the league record against the Rebel county not good, but by the time that the interval was reached, Fermanagh had certainly put themselves into a very promising position.
So much so that a win was on the cards for despite facing into the breeze they had more than held their own, going in at the break trailing by just a point on a scoreline of five to four.
An upset in the making but unhappily for Fermanagh they found themselves unable to push on from that and they failed to maintain the brisk and purposeful approach that had served them well over the opening thirty five minutes.
That approach had seen them play an intelligent brand of cohesive football, ever present support for the man in possession as the ball was worked forward out of defence.
But a greater mix in the style of play would perhaps have paid better dividends and the team failed to build on what had been an encouraging first half performance for this was a game which might have been won.
Cork increasingly took a command of matters and they were to be the stronger side from there on though they were never to edge themselves into what could be called a comfortable position. With just a slender gap always separating the sides, Cork only momentarily managed the insurance four point margin, the game could always have served up a surprise Fermanagh goal.
And a drawn tie would have been a tremendously good result for Fermanagh. But the outcome was a defeat, though a lot of encouragement can be taken from the seventy minutes.
Getting anything here would have been a major bonus. Instead there was the fact that the team was always in the chase against one of the division's presumed strongest sides and Fermanagh can now look with reasonable confidence to collecting a better return in the remaining four ties, beginning with next Saturday night's clash in Brewster Park with Armagh.
It was Cork who made the initial running and they had early scores from Donncha O'Connor but Fermanagh bounced back with scores from James Sherry and from advancing half back Thomas McElroy to tie matters up on eleven minutes.
The trend of the opening half had been set and there was little to separate the teams with Fermanagh looking comfortable on the ball as they played with fluent precision. Not a lot by way of scoring from either side but Fermanagh did come very close indeed to snatching what would have been a huge score.
Defender Shane Goan made headway beyond the half way line and eventually the centre came in to full forward Seamus Ryder whose fisted attempt was somehow clawed away to safety by full back Noel O'Donovan.
O'Donovan had earlier been foraging himself as he knocked over a 16th minute point for the home side who at this stage were finding it all a bit of a struggle against an Erne opposition who had settled down well to the business in hand.
Shane O'Brien was to shoot two Fermanagh points, one from a close in free, the other a finely judged effort from open play out on the wing and Fermanagh were clearly in this game with every prospect of pulling off an upset.
Cork, despite the promptings of their talismatic centre back Graham Canty, were laboured though they did edge the interval lead with a pointed free from Conor McCarthy as the interval approached.
Just a point adrift, Fermanagh had to be optimistic as the game resumed, but the push never materialised and it was Cork who stepped up the tempo of their performance. They strode through for a three point haul, scores from Daniel Goulding (free), substitute Paul Kerrigan and Donncha O'Connor putting them four in front on the fifty minute mark.
Cork were now the sturdier side but they weren't in sufficient command to make it an anxiety free closing spell.
The introduction of Daryl Keenan gave the Fermanagh attack an injection of fresh pep and Keenan was to mark his presence with a two point return. Shane O'Brien also popped over a free and at one stage the lead had been trimmed down to a mere two points.
Cork might well have put the game beyond doubt when a defensive misunderstanding in the Fermanagh defence saw a great chance fall to Paul O'Flynn but Hugh Brady managed to rescue the situation with a goal line clearance.
So it remained in the balance, the possibility of a snap Fermanagh goal, keeping the issue alive and the Cork support ill at ease.
Final score of the game did go to the concerned home side, John Hayes steering over the team's tenth point of the afternoon and Fermanagh were once again left to seek out a match saving goal but the opportunity to collect it was never seriously threatened.
Cork have picked up five points from six and are on course for promotion, Fermanagh with just two from six are now in the relegation zone but they will have been heartened by the way that they pressed Cork at this away venue.
Back on home soil next Saturday with familiar foe Armagh the visitors, Fermanagh can genuinely anticipate a victory that would mean survival in this ultra competitive league is well within reach.
What's your views on tomorrow night u21 match? are you quietly confident?
there's a good feeling in down for this one, I think we might just edge it!!
Not much going on in here lately, but it's not hard to see why. U21s beat last week and the seniors beaten every week. Don't suppose anyone was down in Laois? Seems to be conflicting reports as to who scored the goal, Daryl Keenan or Ferris.
Anyway that must have been a second second quarter to the game to concede something like nine points on the spin?
Conceding 23 points in any game is brutal and not like us but I really think we can take something from Kildare this week.
Apparently Marty was yellow carded again, doesn't that mean he now faces a suspension?
He'd be a huge loss against a very tough Kildare side. Ryder doesn't seem to feature much now but Shane O'Brien and Daryl Keenan will now almost certainly be on the Championship squad. Good to see Bogue back playing, wonder how far away Owens is now.
McCluskey still has maybe two months of action with Portadown to play and McCabe nearly the same. Would be a terribel blow to fall straight back into Division Three, it's a real gluepit as Down are proving.
Don't feel too confident for the year ahead but there's always hope when the ground hardens.
I wasn't at the game butI think it was ferris who set up the goal.
marty was sent off again meaning two yellows in as many weeks meaning 1 match ban.
The forwards recorded their highest score in quite a while then to concede 23 points does not help.
I wonder should mal have started the players that came on as the scored 8 points between them
(m little 3, c mcelroy 3, r keenan 1, d kelly 1)
Made the trip to Portlaoise on Saturday to see the worst Fermanagh performance in a long time. Totally off the pace in all sectors of the field, and given a complete run around by to be fair, an average Laois team. Without wanting to go into a lot of detail - Laois cleaned up around the middle of the field, where Clancy was excellent, and in Munnelly and Tierney they had 2 excellent forwards. Tierney was outstanding and gave both Goan and Jones the runaround - he reminded me of a young Raymie Gallagher - all left foot but a real class act.
Don't know what happened - although we were in the game up until about the 20minute mark we were always way off the pace. Laois play a very open brand of football and used the big pitch to absolutely tear us apart - we were opened up so many times, and if they had really been clinical could probably have had 2or3 goals, but instead settled for a multitude of points.
Our defence was atrocious - even reliable heads like Lyons and Goan were well short. We were second to the ball, made the wrong decisions and gave away a serious amount of ball. Where Laois had yards of space - our frowards were standing on top of each other. Blobby again impressed me at full-forward, but unfortunately our captains continued poor discipline deprives him of a full 70mins in there. Eamon was ok - but the quality of ball coming in was dreadful. The one thing that struck me on Saturday when looking at how Laois created space, and used their pacy players - we have no pace whatsoever in the forward line outside of Eamon - which could be our downfall come the summer.
The other annoying aspect was that we knew how Laois would play (there is ony one way they play) - yet our management team were scratching their heads after 15mins pondering changes. To be fair to them though - we were beaten in every position so making changes was going to be very difficult.
The 6point defeat doesn't tell the whole story as Laois were 10 up in the last few minutes, and took the foot of the gas, allowing McElroy and Little in for scores.
Worried about Kildare at the weekend - but to be honest I think that defeat has sealed our fate in Division 3 for next year. McGrath's suspension means that we will probably not have Blobby at full forward - which for me has been one of the positives from the last 2 games. Peter Sherry picked up a bad injury, and was replaced by Bogue who looked lively - and I would start him on sunday. Little and McElroy will probably start as well - and although O'Brien was poor, he deserves a chance again.
I would go with
Gallagher
Bogue
Brady
Goan
Kelly
Lyons
Foy/Johnson
McDermott
Sherry
Little
T McElroy
O'Brien
Maguire
Carson
D Keenan/McElroy
Quote from: Erne Man on March 24, 2009, 02:06:45 PM
Made the trip to Portlaoise on Saturday to see the worst Fermanagh performance in a long time. Totally off the pace in all sectors of the field, and given a complete run around by to be fair, an average Laois team. Without wanting to go into a lot of detail - Laois cleaned up around the middle of the field, where Clancy was excellent, and in Munnelly and Tierney they had 2 excellent forwards. Tierney was outstanding and gave both Goan and Jones the runaround - he reminded me of a young Raymie Gallagher - all left foot but a real class act.
Don't know what happened - although we were in the game up until about the 20minute mark we were always way off the pace. Laois play a very open brand of football and used the big pitch to absolutely tear us apart - we were opened up so many times, and if they had really been clinical could probably have had 2or3 goals, but instead settled for a multitude of points.
Our defence was atrocious - even reliable heads like Lyons and Goan were well short. We were second to the ball, made the wrong decisions and gave away a serious amount of ball. Where Laois had yards of space - our frowards were standing on top of each other. Blobby again impressed me at full-forward, but unfortunately our captains continued poor discipline deprives him of a full 70mins in there. Eamon was ok - but the quality of ball coming in was dreadful. The one thing that struck me on Saturday when looking at how Laois created space, and used their pacy players - we have no pace whatsoever in the forward line outside of Eamon - which could be our downfall come the summer.
The other annoying aspect was that we knew how Laois would play (there is ony one way they play) - yet our management team were scratching their heads after 15mins pondering changes. To be fair to them though - we were beaten in every position so making changes was going to be very difficult.
The 6point defeat doesn't tell the whole story as Laois were 10 up in the last few minutes, and took the foot of the gas, allowing McElroy and Little in for scores.
Worried about Kildare at the weekend - but to be honest I think that defeat has sealed our fate in Division 3 for next year. McGrath's suspension means that we will probably not have Blobby at full forward - which for me has been one of the positives from the last 2 games. Peter Sherry picked up a bad injury, and was replaced by Bogue who looked lively - and I would start him on sunday. Little and McElroy will probably start as well - and although O'Brien was poor, he deserves a chance again.
I would go with
Gallagher
Bogue
Brady
Goan
Kelly
Lyons
Foy/Johnson
McDermott
Sherry
Little
T McElroy
O'Brien
Maguire
Carson
D Keenan/McElroy
By all accounts, Fermanagh were awful on Saturday night. I didn't get to the game, but this is the only league game I've missed. Overall, Fermanagh have been so disappointing during this league campaign. I always thought we would be up against it in division two this year but it feels as if we'll be relegated without putting up a real fight. There appears to be a real lack of confidence in so many of the players. I'm not sure what has caused this, but I suspect the negative press that the team received in the media last summer has had a real affect on the squad. It feels as if the players are afraid of making mistakes and won't take on any responsibility on the field. May be the impact of the Ulster Final replay defeat against Armagh shouldn't be under estimated.
Without Barry Owens, Womble, McCabe and Clucker the size and strength of our squad has been seriously exposed. I was at the u21 game last week and there doesn't appear to be too much talent coming through.
I could sit here all night and be negative, so I'll try and find some positives from this league campaign. Blooby has shown some promise at full forward, especially against Armagh. Shane O'Brien, whilst a little inconsistent has shown that given time, he could be a decent player at this level. Before his injury, Rory Foy has really impressed me with some of his performances. Daryl Keenan, although small and light, has got a bright future ahead at inter county level.
Given our current injuries and absentees, my team for Sunday would be
Gallagher
Bogue
Brady
Goan
Kelly
Lyons
Johnston
Sherry
McDermott
T. McElroy
Little
C. McElroy
D. Keenan
Carson
Maguire
Quote from: FermPundit on March 24, 2009, 08:03:54 PM
Quote from: Erne Man on March 24, 2009, 02:06:45 PM
Made the trip to Portlaoise on Saturday to see the worst Fermanagh performance in a long time. Totally off the pace in all sectors of the field, and given a complete run around by to be fair, an average Laois team. Without wanting to go into a lot of detail - Laois cleaned up around the middle of the field, where Clancy was excellent, and in Munnelly and Tierney they had 2 excellent forwards. Tierney was outstanding and gave both Goan and Jones the runaround - he reminded me of a young Raymie Gallagher - all left foot but a real class act.
Don't know what happened - although we were in the game up until about the 20minute mark we were always way off the pace. Laois play a very open brand of football and used the big pitch to absolutely tear us apart - we were opened up so many times, and if they had really been clinical could probably have had 2or3 goals, but instead settled for a multitude of points.
Our defence was atrocious - even reliable heads like Lyons and Goan were well short. We were second to the ball, made the wrong decisions and gave away a serious amount of ball. Where Laois had yards of space - our frowards were standing on top of each other. Blobby again impressed me at full-forward, but unfortunately our captains continued poor discipline deprives him of a full 70mins in there. Eamon was ok - but the quality of ball coming in was dreadful. The one thing that struck me on Saturday when looking at how Laois created space, and used their pacy players - we have no pace whatsoever in the forward line outside of Eamon - which could be our downfall come the summer.
The other annoying aspect was that we knew how Laois would play (there is ony one way they play) - yet our management team were scratching their heads after 15mins pondering changes. To be fair to them though - we were beaten in every position so making changes was going to be very difficult.
The 6point defeat doesn't tell the whole story as Laois were 10 up in the last few minutes, and took the foot of the gas, allowing McElroy and Little in for scores.
Worried about Kildare at the weekend - but to be honest I think that defeat has sealed our fate in Division 3 for next year. McGrath's suspension means that we will probably not have Blobby at full forward - which for me has been one of the positives from the last 2 games. Peter Sherry picked up a bad injury, and was replaced by Bogue who looked lively - and I would start him on sunday. Little and McElroy will probably start as well - and although O'Brien was poor, he deserves a chance again.
I would go with
Gallagher
Bogue
Brady
Goan
Kelly
Lyons
Foy/Johnson
McDermott
Sherry
Little
T McElroy
O'Brien
Maguire
Carson
D Keenan/McElroy
By all accounts, Fermanagh were awful on Saturday night. I didn't get to the game, but this is the only league game I've missed. Overall, Fermanagh have been so disappointing during this league campaign. I always thought we would be up against it in division two this year but it feels as if we'll be relegated without putting up a real fight. There appears to be a real lack of confidence in so many of the players. I'm not sure what has caused this, but I suspect the negative press that the team received in the media last summer has had a real affect on the squad. It feels as if the players are afraid of making mistakes and won't take on any responsibility on the field. May be the impact of the Ulster Final replay defeat against Armagh shouldn't be under estimated.
Without Barry Owens, Womble, McCabe and Clucker the size and strength of our squad has been seriously exposed. I was at the u21 game last week and there doesn't appear to be too much talent coming through.
I could sit here all night and be negative, so I'll try and find some positives from this league campaign. Blooby has shown some promise at full forward, especially against Armagh. Shane O'Brien, whilst a little inconsistent has shown that given time, he could be a decent player at this level. Before his injury, Rory Foy has really impressed me with some of his performances. Daryl Keenan, although small and light, has got a bright future ahead at inter county level.
Given our current injuries and absentees, my team for Sunday would be
Gallagher
Bogue
Brady
Goan
Kelly
Lyons
Johnston
Sherry
McDermott
T. McElroy
Little
C. McElroy
D. Keenan
Carson
Maguire
I think that midfiel would be destroyed. I agree Bogue needs another chance though!
Gallagher
Bogue
Lyons
Goan
Sherry
McDermott
Kelly
Carson
Sherry
Ciaran McElroy
Tommy McElroy
Little
Eamonn Maguire
Ferris
Daryl Keenan
From having seen the NFL games so far, I think it is safe too day that Blobby is either not good enough or fit enough to play midfild, however he does look very promising in Full Forward, so this is where I would like to see him for the next few games. My team would be
Gallagher
Johnston/Jones/Bogue
Brady
Goan
Kelly
Lyons
Foy (easily the biggest positive this year)
Sherry
McDermott/McBarron(I assume he is back now)
Little
T McElroy (needs a few more games here before a decision can be made if he will make a forward)
O'Brien (Shows Promise)
D. Keenan (looks very promising, however a bit lightweight)
Carson
Maguire
Quote from: Fermanaghandsam on March 25, 2009, 07:19:30 PM
From having seen the NFL games so far, I think it is safe too day that Blobby is either not good enough or fit enough to play midfild, however he does look very promising in Full Forward, so this is where I would like to see him for the next few games. My team would be
Gallagher
Johnston/Jones/Bogue
Brady
Goan
Kelly
Lyons
Foy (easily the biggest positive this year)
Sherry
McDermott/McBarron(I assume he is back now)
Little
T McElroy (needs a few more games here before a decision can be made if he will make a forward)
O'Brien (Shows Promise)
D. Keenan (looks very promising, however a bit lightweight)
Carson
Maguire
Aah now. calm down.
I would nearly put my house (actually I don't have a house). But if I did, I would put it on Liam McBarron Starting the first championship match this year for Fermanagh (providing he's fit).
In fairness, he couldn't be much worse than Sherry has been in the league.
Quote from: 118cmal on March 25, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
I would nearly put my house (actually I don't have a house). But if I did, I would put it on Liam McBarron Starting the first championship match this year for Fermanagh (providing he's fit).
In fairness, he couldn't be much worse than Sherry has been in the league.
I actually think James Sherry has been decent enough during the league but he does need Marty McGrath beside him as it allows him to move forward with Marty operating as the holding midfielder.
how come young maguire and one of the o'briens from devenish weren't on the u21 panel?
Quote from: supersub on March 27, 2009, 06:31:54 PM
how come young maguire and one of the o'briens from devenish weren't on the u21 panel?
Chris O'Brien was injured for the Down game, but I think we played in the Monaghan game. Joe O'Brien played corner forward against Down. Not sure what Maguire lad you're on about.
ah right ok i see! eh darren maguire i think, i saw his name in the herald a few times along with the obriens in relation to club matches, was just wondering if he was on it or not!
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on March 28, 2009, 10:36:05 AM
Why are a lot of you fermanagh guys who are naming teams playing Tommy McElroy in the forward line ??? Has he been playing in the forwards for the league? I though he had an excellent year at wong half back for you last season.
Tommy McElroy plays a lot of club football in the forwards, so its not that surprising to see him playing here for Fermanagh. His best position is half back but as we are struggling for forwards, Malachy O'Rourke has decided to put him further up the field. Although the score against Laois doesn't suggest it, we have plenty of good backs on the senior panel. We need to look at all options in the forward line.
any reports from game yesterday v Kildare??
Very disappointed with being relegated but i guess injuries players missing took its toll
Injuries have certainly taken their toll but yesterday was another game that we were never in danger of winning. We had so many men back behind the ball that it was impossible to build any real attacks with the half-forward line almost non existant. Daryl Keenan was the main outlet but that was very rare. Tommy McElroy was our best ball carrier and the only one who seemed to be beating his man with any confidence.
By the hour stage we had Marty McGrath (banned), Barry Owens (injured), Eamon Maguire (injured), Ciaran McElroy (injured), Ryan McCluskey and McCabe (soccer) all absent. Maguire damaged his shoulder/arm, tried to play on then was forced to come off soon after. Ciaran seemed to hurt his leg but was walking after the game so hopefully not too bad.
Blobby and Sherry were the midfield partnership yesterday and to be fair the only man that caught a clean ball all day was Blobby. Kildare won almost 100% of the breaks in there and really looked like they could canter up and score at will, which they did any time we got within range.
O'Brien also really struggled but I think a lot of it has to do with the shape of the side at present. Ryan Keenan in the full-forward line hardly touched the ball all day while Eamon was lively without threatening too much, though hit two decent scores. Ciaran did well but was injured before half-time but hit two points.
One positive was the full back line where Hugh Brady and Micky Jones certainly won their individual battles but we lost too many of those to have had any hope of winning. Good to see McBarron back but can't see a real role for him starting. Still think we need a target up front and from what I've seen Blobby would be best suited to that. Good hands and a sweet left foot (which he probably over-uses). It's just a pity we need him to piut out fires out the field every game. His fitness has certainly improved though and at least looks county standard now.
League Starting this weekend for the senior teams, then nothing for 2 weeks - madness or what
Some good games to be played in the first week -
Devenish v Tempo
Roslea v Belcoo
Enniskillen v Derrygonnelly
Newtownbutler v St.Joseph's
St.Patrick's v Teemore
Fermanagh Herald SFL 2
Aughadrumsee v Erne Gaels
Derrylin v Brookeborough
Kinawley v Irvinestown
Lisnaskea v Coa
SFL Division 1
Enniskillen Gaels 0-14 0-09 Derrygonnelly
Devenish 0-08 0-12 Tempo
Roslea 1-09 2-06 Belcoo
SFL Division 2
Aughadrumsee 0-07 2-10 Erne Gaels
Derrylin 0-13 1-14 Brookeboro
Lisnaskea 2-12 0-07 Coa
Quote from: FermPundit on April 05, 2009, 06:31:37 PM
SFL Division 1
Enniskillen Gaels 0-14 0-09 Derrygonnelly
Devenish 0-08 0-12 Tempo
Roslea 1-09 2-06 Belcoo
SFL Division 2
Aughadrumsee 0-07 2-10 Erne Gaels
Derrylin 0-13 1-14 Brookeboro
Lisnaskea 2-12 0-07 Coa
Good result for the Gaels, hopefully they'll have a good run in the league, it has been their downfall come the championship the last few seasons. Suprising enough result, Tempo beating Devenish. Looking at Division 2, it appears 'Skea should make a swift return to Division 1, while Erne Gaels could also make a strong push for promotion.
Quote from: inisceithleann on April 06, 2009, 09:36:24 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on April 05, 2009, 06:31:37 PM
SFL Division 1
Enniskillen Gaels 0-14 0-09 Derrygonnelly
Devenish 0-08 0-12 Tempo
Roslea 1-09 2-06 Belcoo
SFL Division 2
Aughadrumsee 0-07 2-10 Erne Gaels
Derrylin 0-13 1-14 Brookeboro
Lisnaskea 2-12 0-07 Coa
Good result for the Gaels, hopefully they'll have a good run in the league, it has been their downfall come the championship the last few seasons. Suprising enough result, Tempo beating Devenish. Looking at Division 2, it appears 'Skea should make a swift return to Division 1, while Erne Gaels could also make a strong push for promotion.
Newtownbutler 1-10 1-7 St. Josephs
St. Patricks 0-11 1-7 Teemore
Kinawley 2-11 2-9 Irvinestown
Above are the other results I didn't have yesterday evening.
An excellent win for the Gaels yesterday. On paper they have the strongest team in the league and if they have the right attitude, there is no reason why they couldn't do well in the league and championship. Tempo will be happy with an away win in Garrison. With the two Keenans, Damien Kelly and Rory Foy, they have the potential to be very competitive in division one.
Division two will be very tight this year. Skea will probably go straight back up with Boro, Kinawley, Irvinestown and maybe even Erne Gaels fighting it out for second place.
Sorry to hijack youre thread lads, but here goes:
Hi there folks,
With the championship just around the corner, from now on in you will see various fantasy football competitions springing up, myself and a few other memebrs of our club have taken it upon ourselves to run a competition of our own as a fundraiser. Hopefully we will get alot of interest in it, weve kept the entry fee reasonably low, its a pretty straight forward competition, all the rules, scoring chart, and player lists ect can be found on our website, so why not have a nosey at it. I hope when you are deciding upon which of the competitions available to enter you will give us a thought, we may not have a flashy website with all the graphics, but in entering this competition, you will be supporting one of youre very own clubs. If you have any queries about the competition you can email me at clannnabanna@hotmail.co.uk
To view the competition just log on to clannnabanna.down.gaa.ie and click on the competitions link
Many thanks, i hope we can look forward to youre support.
Wexford Lose Model Look - Sunday Tribune
An interesting article. I'm not sure what to make of it
Ewan MacKenna
Last year's surprise packet in the championship have failed to build on those exploits by taking their preparations to the next level in this year's league
April, and some door knocking reveals that most in the neighbourhood are busy with the housekeeping. Except Jason Ryan that is because he doesn't have a house to keep anymore. Instead, eight months after building a mansion to call his own and taking Wexford to the last four of the All Ireland for the first time since 1945, he's standing atop a pile of rubble, sifting through what little remains. All around him has crumbled to such an extent that their year is already over. Early-season form shouldn't put an end to a season's ambitions but early-season form has rarely been this catastrophic.
Eight games down in 2009 and Wexford have lost them all. Emphatically. In their six league defeats to date they've conceded an overwhelming average of 21 points a game – that's more than the county's hurlers and in football only Kilkenny have taken more bullets at the back. In those same league outings they've averaged just 10 points a game – outside of the gutter of Division Four, only Westmeath have been more aimless. And when it comes to scoring difference, they are only cushioned by Kilkenny. All this just a year on from finishing Division Three with the best scoring difference in the land and a year on from a league final against today's opposition that announced that both Wexford and Fermanagh were going to hang with the cooler kids.
That day there was a trophy on offer. Today the small slice of confidence is worth much more to a couple of sides who started the year eyeing up two of the easiest championship draws possible. The problem was that Wexford did little else constructive and that was the beginning of their demise. It's well-known that several county sides broke the ban on intercounty training through the latter part of last year and the majority tested the boundaries by working in small groups and in the gym. But in Wexford, a boot wasn't laced between that defeat to Tyrone in August and the O'Byrne Cup in January. Ryan has repeatedly dredged up the rule-breaking of others but showed himself to be naïve in his judgement. However a bigger problem was that the players were only too willing to exploit that same judgement. They started the race to September a few yards off the pace and didn't bother trying to catch up either collectively or on their own.
"There was an overconfidence the minute last year's championship was up," says one source close to the team. "They were celebrating, but they never asked themselves what it was they were celebrating. Granted it was a great season but there was nothing won and with Dublin, Meath and Westmeath all on the other side of the draw in Leinster, there was the chance to get back to a Leinster final, kick on, win something. Instead there was little work done and a complete lack of ambition was shown by some players. Last year they found out they were good enough but that was enough for them. They thought it would just happen from now on rather than working hard and showing they were capable of getting back and challenging."
Some things were unavoidable. Nature caught up with Colm Morris in the pace department. Defenders finally realised that to halt PJ Banville, you need to get out in front. Redmond Barry went travelling. A full-back better than Phillip Wallace never sprouted anywhere in the county. But a handful of casualties never wiped out a species and some of the panel found excuses too easy to come by.
Certain players complained that the county board turned down a €22,000 training trip to Portugal when they had already been sent to Spain on holidays despite a poor financial situation. Others bemoaned the lack of work available when jobs had been turned down. They even exploited the closeness to manager Jason Ryan – built up because of his young age and stunning first-season success – and used it as a lever to get lazy and that's exactly why Ryan met with his management team a couple of weeks back before hauling in his players for a meeting that stretched out for hours.
Too little, too late for 2009 and for that the players must take the majority of the blame because, first off, the manager's methods have been proven sound in the past. When Ryan helped out Clongeen in 2007, he was unable to give them more than a handful of nights before their opening championship game and they lost. Before their second outing he went on his honeymoon and they went nought and two. After that he committed and they won a county title. That's the quality of the coach and they've been given every chance away from that as well.
Some years ago Barry Kirwan (Wexford footballer in the '90s) was talking to Mick Caulfield (Wexford footballer in the '80s) about why he gave up training the Wexford team. His reply? "I just couldn't walk through that f**kin' big puddle at the gates of Patrick's Park anymore." But before Ryan came along, the Enniscorthy venue had been revamped and the foundations had been laid for the future.
Early last season with Fermanagh going well in the league, their manager Malachy O'Rourke admitted he was no miracle worker. "I would never think that I have a magic wand. I just think you have to try to create an environment where players are motivated, where they know they have to work hard and understand the sacrifices that have been made for them. It's about setting standards and putting everything in place for them to succeed." But some players in Wexford refused to see that and it's why they are now down and out. Some players in Fermanagh refused to see that as well and it's why a panel that were given 10 footballs each last year for just being part of the set up were denied a meal the Tuesday after a heavy defeat to Kildare. It's why O'Rourke had to call in Tommy McElroy for a lengthy meeting this month about where things were going wrong as well.
Not quite as severe as last season's other breakthrough team, but Fermanagh are already relegated and while they too are missing key players in Shane McCabe, Ryan McCluskey and Mark Murphy, they also can't use it as an excuse to defend a spiral that began in the Ulster final replay last year. The Fermanagh county board have gone out of their way to make this group a success and in O'Rourke they have a manager that guided Loup, Errigal Ciaran and Cavan Gaels to county titles.
During that same interview last year, O'Rourke spoke of his county's past. "I was at the 1982 Ulster final. Had my flag and all with me and like everyone I remember the goal and like everybody I was sure we were going to win. I was only about 15 and I'll never forget the disappointment leaving that day. Walking down the street afterwards on the way back home, I remember a fella from Cavan more or less saying that's the end of you guys. I was determined, thinking we'd be back again, but that was just a dream. Maybe some of the older folk there realised that."
From then on, O'Rourke's county used to crumble under pressure like a wet cardboard box. With the cracks already beginning to appear now, his players need to turn things around today or they could end up just like their opponents. In ruins.
A load of horsesh1t.
He is quoting O'Rourke from 2008. Very poor effort.
You would think accurate quotes from this year would be must.
The bit about each member of the panel being given 10 footballs last year is just not true.
QuoteIt's why O'Rourke had to call in Tommy McElroy for a lengthy meeting this month about where things were going wrong as well.
Tommy has been our best player in a disappointing league campaign. Not a man who should be criticised for his performances.
Bringing him in for a meeting would have nothing to do with the fact he is vice captain, would it now ::)
Very poor effort at journalism.
Quote from: FermGael on April 12, 2009, 06:33:46 PM
A load of horsesh1t.
He is quoting O'Rourke from 2008. Very poor effort.
You would think accurate quotes from this year would be must.
The bit about each member of the panel being given 10 footballs last year is just not true.
QuoteIt's why O'Rourke had to call in Tommy McElroy for a lengthy meeting this month about where things were going wrong as well.
Tommy has been our best player in a disappointing league campaign. Not a man who should be criticised for his performances.
Bringing him in for a meeting would have nothing to do with the fact he is vice captain, would it now ::)
Very poor effort at journalism.
I completely agree. The journalist is trying to make out that are problems in the current set up. Pure rubbish.
Seen an add for that in the IN yesterday and meant to buy the paper. Glad I didn't, that is as poor an effort as I've read in a long long time.
Anyway on to today. Looks like O'Rourke is also interested in seeing Blobby at full-forward. He got 1-3 today two frees I think and a goal that was a fisted effort on a long ball from Mark Little. Daryl Keenan also got 1-3 but none from play. Goal was a penalty in last five to level then Little got a point. Colm Morris equalised for them injury time though. Micky Jones also managed a point from the full-back line. Overall a disappointing result though they had scored five points without reply before we hit the goal (for a foot block by keeper as Tommy McElroy was through on goal). Ryan Keenan hit two points from play though.
Eamon Maguire was out with shoulder injury and when you add that to Womble, Owens, Marty, Clucker maybe it wasn't such a bad display. Probably our five best players over the last few years.
There's no point dwelling on the league. It's over with. If the players regroup and work hard at training, there's no reason why we can't beat Down next month.
Quote from: ExiledGael on April 12, 2009, 07:35:02 PM
Seen an add for that in the IN yesterday and meant to buy the paper. Glad I didn't, that is as poor an effort as I've read in a long long time.
Anyway on to today. Looks like O'Rourke is also interested in seeing Blobby at full-forward. He got 1-3 today two frees I think and a goal that was a fisted effort on a long ball from Mark Little. Daryl Keenan also got 1-3 but none from play. Goal was a penalty in last five to level then Little got a point. Colm Morris equalised for them injury time though. Micky Jones also managed a point from the full-back line. Overall a disappointing result though they had scored five points without reply before we hit the goal (for a foot block by keeper as Tommy McElroy was through on goal). Ryan Keenan hit two points from play though.
Eamon Maguire was out with shoulder injury and when you add that to Womble, Owens, Marty, Clucker maybe it wasn't such a bad display. Probably our five best players over the last few years.
Where did you get your match report Exiled? I tried to get the match on radio with no success!
Friend was at it. Some encouraging signs. If you look hard enough.
BY DAMIAN CAMPBELL
With the NFL now completed, the club league programme will move centre stage and over the coming weeks there will be an extended run of games before another break looms for the preparation for the Ulster championship game with Down on May 17th.
l BELCOO V NEWTOWNBUTLER
Both teams have made satisfactory starts, Belcoo with a decent away point claimed in Roslea, Newtown winning at home to newly promoted St Josephs. Of the two however it was the Belcoo performance which was the more noteworthy, an away point is always a bonus.
Newtown on the other hand took a long time to cope with the enthusiasm of Ederney and the First Fermanagh's cannot afford to be so slow to get going against a Belcoo side who have a big season ahead of them. If Belcoo in fact are to deliver on the undoubted potential that they possess, they need to show that in these kind of ties.
Getting the better of hugely experienced opposition on your own home turf is an essential to building a strong challenge. A very interesting clash here with Belcoo taken to shade it and serve notice that they will indeed by a force.
VERDICT: BELCOO WIN
l ST JOSEPHS V DERRYGONNELLY
Two teams who suffered opening day defeats so a little dollop of pressure already has appeared for both. St Josephs will have been somewhat encouraged by their effort against Newtown though they did fall away considerably in the second half. If they are to survive, the Ederney team have to produce the goods on home soil so this first home test is of particular importance to them.
A second defeat and immediately the alarm bells would be ringing that they could be heading into an all too familiar pattern experienced by newly promoted teams.
Derrygonnelly, despite the fact that they were championship finalists last season, are not quite the presence they were a few seasons back. In their opening assignment they shipped a heavy enough defeat to Enniskillen.
The Harps, like most other clubs will be looking to the game against this opposition as one where points simply have to be scooped up. They might find it a particularly difficult test and it would not be a major surprise if in fact they were to fail here. St Josephs will be coming into this game with steely determination and for them this is an especially important home tie.
VERDICT: ST JOSEPHS WIN
l TEMPO V ROSLEA
Tempo would have been more than pleased with their away victory over league holders Devenish so their confidence will be high for the season's opening home contest. The Maguires will be hopeful too that they may have a fuller hand to select from, so all in all, they should be optimistic that they can chalk up another success.
But of course they would need to keep themselves grounded and not permit all the positive points derail the commitment they will have to produce on a continuous basis.
Roslea will not be arriving to simply fulfil the fixture. The Shamrocks have a more than competent panel of players and though they are just back in the top flight they are by no means a fresh faced outfit.
They have lots of experience on board and disappointed at dropping a home point first time out, they will be keen to compensate that with a result here.
Tidy, competitive contest looming, but Tempo, if they are to shape up as strong contenders, have to deliver a second success. The Maguires look to have the quality needed to edge a close tie.
Verdict: Tempo win.
l TEEMORE V DEVENISH
This is a hard one to call. Of the two sides it would be Teemore who would have taken more from the opening day defeat which both teams suffered. They came close to getting a result in Donagh, Devenish on the other hand collapsed in the final quarter of their home meeting with Tempo.
Devenish had built their league title success last season on the back of an impressive opening string of victories. Should they lose this game their grip on the title will have been considerably loosened.
And they might be heading into a second defeat. Teemore will be a very tough handful for the Blues and they will certainly need to produce a full sixty minutes if they are to emerge winners here. A very difficult afternoon ahead for Devenish and it is hard to see them getting anything from it.
Verdict: Teemore win
l ENNISKILLEN V ST PATRICKS
It is only very early days but Enniskillen have perhaps served up some indication that they could be heading for a league challenge of some substance. They more or less overwhelmed Derrygonnelly over the closing thirty minutes in round one with a tasty attacking display. But it had taken them half an hour to rouse themselves.
St Patricks will present the Gaels with a tougher test, one suspects, for the Donagh team have a sturdier look about them. Midfield a key area here. If Shane McDermott can establish a St Patrick 's platform and thus channel in a steady supply to a forward line centred around Gary and Eamon Maguire plus Pat Cadden, then Enniskillen will be pushed to the pin of their collar to squeeze out a win. Not a lot to separate them, with a hesitant vote going to the Gaels, primarily because they are on their home turf.
VERDICT: ENNISKILLEN WIN
Tempo 0-7 Roslea 0-4 half time
Roslea won by two
SFL 1
Belcoo 2-9 2-9 Newtownbutler
St. Joe's 1-4 0-17 Derrygonnelly
Tempo 0-9 1-8 Roslea
Teemore 1-9 1-9 Devenish
SFL 2
Aughadrumasee 0-6 0-13 Irvinestown
Erne Gaels 0-16 1-7 Coa Erne Gaels
That's all i have so far. Enniskillen play St Pat's at 6.
15/20 mins gone in 2nd half Gaels match
Enk 2-6 St Pats 1-6
McCluskey and N Keenan off for the Gaels. Both for two yellows
Finished a draw.
Gaels 2-7 St Pat's 1-10.
Was not at the match but i hear Mccluskey's second yellow card was very harsh. Would not be like Fergal to make a mess of a decision ::)
Good result for the Gaels considering they played most of the second half with 13 men.
The one missing result from SFL Division 2
Kinawley 3-07 0-07 Derrylin
Div. 1 is going to be real tight by the looks of things. Long time since there were so many draws in one round
Another round for Sunday and another for Wednesday.
Then nothing for 3 weeks.
The way things are going it will be November by the time things are completed
SFL Division 2 result from tonight.
Kinawley 0-08 1-08 Erne Gaels
SFL Divison 1
Devenish 2-08 1-10 Enniskillen
St. Patrick's 0-12 2-09 St. Joseph's
Roslea 1-05 1-14 Newtownbutler
SFL Division 2
Coa 2-07 3-11 Brookeboro
Lisnaskea 4-11 0-04 Aughadrumsee
Belcoo 2-4 Derrygonnelly 0-07
Derrylin 1-12 0-10 Irvinestown
There's a full round of fixtures in both divisons this Wednesday. Here are my predictions.
Wednesday 29th April
SFL at 7.30pm
Manor House SFL1
Newtownbutler v Derrygonnelly - NTB
Belcoo v St.Patricks - Belcoo
St.Josephs v Devenish - Devenish
Enniskillen v Tempo - Gaels
Teemore v Roslea - Roslea
Fermanagh Herald SFL 2
Erne Gaels v Derrylin - Erne Gaels
Aughadrumsee v Coa - Coa
Brookeborough v Kinawley - Boro
Irvinestown v Lisnaskea - Skea
Division one is really tight this year with everyone able to beat one another. The Enniskillen v Tempo game is probably the tie of the round. Both teams have been inconsistent so far but I fancy the Gaels to win at Brewster Park. In Division 2 I think Skea will run away with the league but there is a real battle for second spot with Erne Gaels, Boro and Kinawley all very competitive so far. Irvinestown have started very poorly this year so it doesn't look like they'll pose much of a challenge this season.
Should be interesting. Good win for Ederney at the weekend so they might have a chance of staying up if they can pick up another win here and there. Skea will obviously walk Division Two but is it true Mark Little is not playing for the club this year? Bit of a domestic I heard, but it is bound to effect his fitness and place on the Fermanagh team.
Clucker is back training with the county though so that's one good piece of news. Did Ciaran O'Reilly or Barry Owens feature for Teemore?
Sorry for interrupting lads.
There are a few of us coming up for the weekend of the Down V Fermanagh game.
Any hints or tips for heading out eating and drinking on the Saturday and Sunday?
Cheers.
Drinking establishments in order of distance from the ground:
Within ten minutes of the ground
Enniskillen clubhouse: prob good for few pints before the match and a bit of banter. Decent pints and means you can get into your seat as soon as crowd builds up. Drawback is prob waiting a good whilse at the bar
Fort Lodge Hotel: Would be one of the most popular pre-match places, again 5 minute walk to the ground. Does a decent roast dinner too. In the evening time turns into an establishment of illrepute ("the Lodge of love") for 16-21 year olds, many from the countryside with a distinct farmer accent or potentially a few from the town looking for a fight (best to avoid)
Railway Hotel: Bit of an old mans bar but its not a bad haunt, not far from the Lodge at the top end of what becomes known as "chippy street" late at night when the crowd spills out of the Lodge and gets pizza/chips/taxis. Railway does a better roast than the Lodge and for a reasonable price
Willie Ramblers: Used to be a good pub. Not sure who frequents it any more. Might be ok on match day
a wee bit further
Gerry Macs: An old mans bar but might be worth a wee look
The Roadhouse: The other way up Railway Street from the ground (up past the Cinema turn right). Tends to be inhabitted the Enniskillen locals and there is a chance half the bar would be watching the Celtic match instead of Fermanagh
Bars in the main town
Charlies: Head past the hospital and down the hill, turn left at the mini roundabout and then right after the dole office. One of the best bars in town but is a bit of a walk from the ground (maybe 15 minutes). Likely to be less packed than some of the other bars but with a decent crowd
Blakes of the Hollow: Probably the "nicest"/"fanciest" layout of any of the Enniskillen bars. Located over multiple floors. Front bar has some trad on a [Sunday] night. On a Saturday night the rest of tends to be frequented with 16-21 year olds.
Crowes Nest: Decent bar downstairs and night club upstairs. Nightclub tends to get a more 21-35 crowd and is likely to have a decent contingent of Fermanagh players and fans alike the night of the match (on there way from Pats)
Pats: A big oul bar right in the centre of the town. Good spot to head the night after the match and always a good crowd. Can be stressful trying to get to the bar at times but if you get a seat you're laughin
Wetherspoons: Standard Wetherspoons
Corner Bar: Will be full of Fermanagh GAA people. Not a big boozer by any means but not a bad boozer.
Bush Bar: Between Corner Bar and Magees. More of a trendy style bar. Bit of R&B and dance music on a Saturday night
Magees: Wouldn't be that different from Corner Bar in description
Thats the most of them. Not that much on offer really but usually ok on match day. Prob recommend Pats and Crowes on either/both of Sat night and Sunday night and have a look at Charlies as well.
Eating spots
Plenty of good eating spots including Oscars / PIcassos / Francos for a c£20+ per head feed, the aforementioned Railway/Lodge for a roast and no end of takeways. try to avoid the "muck trucks" selling burgers to the drunk and disorderly in the Diamond (outside Pats Bar) at 2 a.m.
I'm sure the other boys will have their own opinions
Enjoy your visit to Fermanagh
Quote from: hardstation on April 28, 2009, 11:38:32 PM
Why not The Horseshoe?
I tell you why.......because yer boy is one of the most ignorant b**tards to walk this earth.
The horseshoe, not a bar frequented by too many GAA fans. Good summing up by Caid on Enniskillen's night life. If you head to Pat's and the Crowes, you won't go far wrong.
Quote from: hardstation on April 28, 2009, 11:44:42 PM
I'd head out the Sligo road to the Village Inn. Couple of lookers working in there.
Also does great pints and carvery on a Sunday.
Quote from: hardstation on April 28, 2009, 11:49:03 PM
What about the Cornerstone? Dead on boyo in there.
Not a bad pub, but you'll only ever find locals from certain areas of Enniskillen in there.
Lisnaarick
Caid, that's absolutely brilliant, thanks a million.
Quote from: hardstation on April 28, 2009, 11:38:32 PM
Why not The Horseshoe?
I'll tell you why.......because yer boy is one of the most ignorant b**tards to walk this earth.
the horseshoe is great for a steak--id head there now if i could
Wednesday, 29 April.
SFL Division 1
Belcoo 1-10 0-6 St. Patricks
St. Josephs 0-6 2-9 Devenish
Teemore 1-11 1-11 Roslea
Enniskillen beat Tempo
Newtown v Derrygonnelly - unknown result
SFL Division 2
Erne Gaels 0-5 1-4 Derrylin
Aughadrumsee 1-4 1-10 Coa
Brookeboro 1-11 1-8 Kinawley
Irvinestown v Skea - unknown result
According to the Hoganstand Fermanagh page the Derrygonelly v Newtown game was abandonded due to Raymie Johnston picking up a nasty injury.
Anybody shed any light on this story??
Good result for Ourselves last night. was not at the game but heard that McCarron played very well.
Quote from: FermGael on April 30, 2009, 10:55:40 AM
According to the Hoganstand Fermanagh page the Derrygonelly v Newtown game was abandonded due to Raymie Johnston picking up a nasty injury.
Anybody shed any light on this story??
Good result for Ourselves last night. was not at the game but heard that McCarron played very well.
Yeah, apparently Raymie broke his leg pretty badly last night. He has been a loyal servant to Fermanagh football over the years so I hope he makes a speedy recovery and is back playing club football in the not too distance future.
I hear Aiden McCarron (hoganstand, so a very reliable source) scored 8 points last night. With him at full forward, assisted by McCabe, Mattie Keenan, Bradley and Tom Brewster in the forward line, the Gaels will be very dangerous this season.
A big surprise last night with Derrylin beating Erne Gaels. I was a bit harsh on Belleek, given that they beat Kinawley last week, but a home defeat against Derrylin is very poor, especially for a team pushing for promotion to division one.
Quote from: No1 on April 29, 2009, 10:40:20 AM
Caid, that's absolutely brilliant, thanks a million.
Not a bother. You can buy me a pint in Enniskillen sure. I'll be the semi concious one singing "ye can stick yer 5 Sams up yer ass"
Na I won't really. Honest, Jaysus i'd love a Sam....
Quote from: Caid on April 30, 2009, 09:59:43 PM
Quote from: No1 on April 29, 2009, 10:40:20 AM
Caid, that's absolutely brilliant, thanks a million.
Not a bother. You can buy me a pint in Enniskillen sure. I'll be the semi concious one singing "ye can stick yer 5 Sams up yer ass"
Na I won't really. Honest, Jaysus i'd love a Sam....
Calm youself, Caid. An Anglo Celt would do us for now.
Leitrim 1.18, Fermanagh 1.8, in the Connacht junior championship played last night in Carrick OnShannon.
Connacht Junior Championship? Sometimes the GAA really baffles me.
Any word on Raymie Johnston? Big blow for Newtown, must have been pretty bad to lead to the match being abandoned.
Juniors brush aside Fermanagh to advance
PJ Leddy
773 words
7 May 2009
Leitrim Observer
English
© 2009. Johnston Publishing Limited
Leitrim had a relatively easy win over Fermanagh in Friday evening's high scoring Connacht Junior championship preliminary game in Páirc Seán MacDiarmada as they advanced to meet Mayo in the semi-final on Friday, May 15.
CONNACHT JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP
LEITRIM 1-18
FERMANAGH 1-8
Fermanagh were slightly more impressive than Leitrim in the opening quarter and narrowly shaded the proceedings in this period before Leitrim stormed ahead in the second quarter and built up a double scores halftime lead after holding Fermanagh scoreless for the last nineteen minutes of the first half.
Matters were evenly matched in the first three minutes with Dara McKiernan popping over a Leitrim free and James Connolly replying with a Fermanagh point from play, although the Erne men had a let off when Dara McKiernan hit a fifth minute goal chance weakly into the hands of Fermanagh 'keeper James McGrath.
Stephen Feeney edged Leitrim in front when he fisted over three minutes later after receiving a pass from Emmett Mahon.
A Leitrim defensive error in the eleventh minute allowed Kevin Connolly through to blast home a Fermanagh goal and give the visitors the lead for the only time in the game.
To their credit, Leitrim responded well to this setback as Dara McKiernan whipped over a free, which was awarded for a foul on John McGuinness.
A foul on Ronan Gallagher four minutes later was punished by McKiernan when he levelled proceedings from the resultant free. The homes side regained the lead in the 22nd minute after a foul on Christopher Prior was similarly dealt with by McKiernan.
The Kiltubrid man put Leitrim further ahead from another free two minutes later after John McGuinness was fouled.
After receiving a pass from John McGuinness, Darren Sweeney shot a 30th minute point, which sent Leitrim in at the break with a healthy 0 – 8 to 1 – 1 advantage.
Leitrim increased their lead within 47 seconds of the restart when Dara McKiernan converted another free after he was fouled. It was sixty seconds later when Fermanagh registered their first score in twenty-one minutes after James Connolly shot over from play.
Any hopes fo a Fermanagh comeback were quickly dismissed as Dara McKiernan replied with his first Leitrim point from play within the space of another minute after receiving a pass from John McGuinness.
Over the next three minutes Leitrim stretched their lead to eight points after Wayne McKeon, Emmett Mahon and Christopher Prior shot over in turn from play. Meanwhile Seamus Ryder replied with a 39th minute Fermanagh point from play.
Leitrim refused to give their opponents a glimmer of hope as they hit back with two more points during the next five minutes when Christopher Prior and Dara McKiernan hit the target in turn. Lee McQuaid hit back with a Fermanagh point at the end of the third quarter while Leitrim 'keeper Anthony Conway made a smart save from an Eoghan Donnelly goal bound effort shortly afterwards.
Leitrim pulled further ahead in the first four minutes of the final quarter with Dara McKiernan and Christopher Prior adding a point apiece.
Fermanagh staged a mini rally between the 51st and 57th minutes when they closed the gap on Leitrim to seven points.
In this spell sub Daniel McGuillon shot two points for the Erne men and Seamus Ryder added a point. But Leitrim snuffed out the Fermanagh comeback when Sean McGourty finished off a good move with a 58th minute goal and sub Sean Murray added a point from play two minutes later.
Centre-back Darren McQuade hit a consolation point for Fermanagh just before the final whistle after a fine individual effort when he surged forward quite a distance with the ball before shooting over.
Leitrim:
Anthony Conway, Liam Ferguson, David Flynn, Wayne Gilgunn, Aidan Bohan, Stephen Feeney 0-1, Ciaran Kennedy, Darren Sweeney 0-1, Ronan Gallagher, Wayne McKeon 0-1, Sean McGourty 1-0, Christopher Prior 0-3, Dara McKiernan 0-10(7f.), Emmett Mahon 0-1, John McGuinness. Subs Sean Murray 0-1 for Gilgunn (56 mins.), Nigel Maguire for Mahon (56 mins.), Emmett Lee for Bohan (60 mins.), Conor O'Rourke for Ferguson (60 mins.).
Fermanagh:
James McGrath, Paul O'Brien, Niall McGovern, Shane McAloon, Paul O'Brien, Darren McQuade 0-1, Brian Óg Maguire, Eoghan Donnelly, Mark Lyons, Terry Flanagan, Niall McElroy, James Connolly 0-2, Kevin Connolly 1-0, Seamus Ryder 0- 2, Lee McQuaid 0-1. Subs Declan Drumm for M. O'Brien (HT), Paul McCusker for McEnroy (37 mins.), Daniel McGuillon 0-2 for Flanagan (39 mins.).
Referee: Oliver Kelly (Roscommon)
Conditioned to bring Gaelic footballers up to speed.
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GAVIN CUMMISKEYhears Mike McGurn, the strength and conditioning coach for the Ospreys and WBA Super Bantamweight champion Bernard Dunne, explain why Gaelic games and athletics have always been a big part of his life
BEING FROM Fermanagh, Gaelic football and then athletics dominated my early sporting background. My passion became athletics. I did the 5,000, 10,000 and cross country.
It's funny because my uncle, Joe McGurn, was the chairman of the Fermanagh County Board for 21 years. I think he is the longest serving chairman in the GAA, so it was always part of our lives growing up.
I was attracted into athletics by the individual aspect. It always annoyed me when people weren't playing or training as hard as myself. I was very competitive and realised with athletics you only get what you put in yourself. You are not reliant on other guys. I started at around 15 or 16 and while I didn't have much talent, I worked hard at it.
Three years later I went on a four-year scholarship to Temple University in Philadelphia. I didn't really have a coach before I went to the States. My plans were to go to the European, Worlds and Olympics but I did my back in my junior year; a damaged hernia disc meaning a doctor was forced to tell me I couldn't run anymore.
This was the period in my life when I laid the foundations for what I do today. I was lucky in that I was the only Irish person in a university of 35,000 people so that got me a lot of privileges. They sent me down to spend time with 76ers (professional basketball team), the Flyers (Ice Hockey) and then the Eagles (NFL franchise), where I got to meet a guy called Pasquale "Pat" Croce.
Seeing Pat work, with both the Flyers and Eagles, certainly captured my imagination. This was 1992 and these guys were so far ahead of their time in their strength and conditioning techniques.
After my degree and post-grad in sports science I went over to lecture in England but became so bored of the lifestyle that I got involved with a small rugby league team up in Cumbria called Workington Town. I had never played rugby before in my life. I had some success with them leading to a guy called David Lloyd hearing about me. This led me to Hull, working with both the soccer (Hull City) and rugby league teams (Hull KR) in the town. Then I moved on to St Helens, where they won the treble – the world club championship, Superleague and Challenge Cup.
That eventually led to a meeting with Eddie O'Sullivan and a chance to come back and work in Ireland.
I played a lot with my club, Enniskillen Gaels, from under-14s and made the Fermanagh Vocational Schools side before I went off to the States. I didn't stop there, joining the Philadelphia Shamrocks in the summer time. There was a massive Irish league every summer with something like 12 to 14 teams playing every Sunday.
Last year I advised Fermanagh football manager Malachy O'Rourke right through the pre-season and during the year. I also do a lot of voluntary programmes for athletes. Basically I tell them what not to be doing.
The strength and conditioning element of Gaelic football remains a long way behind other sports. I took the (International) Rules squad with Seán Boylan last year. It was very intense but the boys were amazed by how little we trained and how specific the session were.
I'm not being critical of Gaelic games, they are amateur, but they do have a long way to go. Even in the gym. When I am up in Belfast I still see Gaelic footballers doing bench press and curls. There is no relevance to such work anymore.
When I agreed to give Malachy a hand last year I insisted on using four strength coaches, two in Fermanagh and two in Belfast, so that every session the boys did leading up to championship were supervised. I briefed the four fitness coaches and they briefed the players.
The conditioning of Gaelic players is improving, especially when you see the fruits of the work of guys like Pat Flanagan down in Kerry. John McCloskey has done a great job in Armagh and I believe there is a young lad up in Tyrone called Ryan Porter.
Fergus Connolly is now with Wales, he worked with Derry last year. He is a Monaghan man.
I'm coming back to Belfast this summer, to spend more time with my wife and six-month-old son Eoin, so I may be working more with the GAA and Irish athletes in the future.
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I remember Mickey McGurn took us for a couple of training sessions a few years ago. Tough is one word you could use to describe them!! He's a superb fitness coach and he deserves a lot of credit for the recent success of the Irish rugby squad.
I have a ticket for row A in John Vessey stand for sunday. Is this at touchline does anyone know. or is it like croke park AA at bottom and A first row under covered area?
There are quite a few row A's in the John Vesey Stand Mid Down.
It should have someother identifer on it like, CC or CU or EC etc???
Quote from: FermGael on May 15, 2009, 11:23:11 PM
There are quite a few row A's in the John Vesey Stand Mid Down.
It should have someother identifer on it like, CC or c* or EC etc???
Yeah section KC row A in John Vesey stand covered. Have i a good ticket or am i stuck in corner?
As far as i can recall you are on the 21 at the front.
job done today in tough conditions against a decent team so great morale booster to build on for the forthcoming Cavan game
SFL Division one
Enniskillen 1-10 0-14 Roslea
Derrygonnelly 1-14 0-16 Donagh
Belcoo 3-10 2-10 Tempo
Newtown 0-05 0-11 Devenish
SFL Division two
Kinawley 2-11 0-06 Aughadrumsee
Coa 3-06 1-10 Irvinestown
Derrylin 0-08 1-07 Lisnaskea
Erne Gaels 2-10 1-07 Brookeboro
Cavan v Fermanagh throw-in has been moved to 5.30pm so not to clash with Ireland v Bulgaria soccer match
some large tallies racked up there in Div 1 which is nice to see hopefully the scoring forwards can transfer this into county football against Cavan
SFL 1
Teemore 0-10 0-10 Belcoo
Devenish 3-5 1-11 Derrygonnelly
Tempo 0-11 2-11 Newtownbutler
Enniskillen and St Joseph's drew :o
SFL 2
Coa 1-10 1-12 Lisnaskea
Erne Gaels 1-15 2-5 Aughadrumasee
Roslea 1-8 0-10 St. Patricks
nice to see Roslea going well :-*
Tempo beat Teemore by two points tonight
Hopefully pick up another two on Friday to push us up to a more respectable position
Quote from: Caid on June 09, 2009, 09:36:31 PM
Tempo beat Teemore by two points tonight
Hopefully pick up another two on Friday to push us up to a more respectable position
Tempo 1-10 2-05 Teemore
Were all the county men playing on both sides tonight?
Ryan Keenan scored 1.2 for Tempo in their 2.7 to 1.8 win over Teemore.
HT
Tempo 0-4
Devenish 1-7
FT
Tempo 0-11
Devenish 1-7
6 points for county player Dayrl Kennan and 3 points also from his younger brother Ryan.
Daryl Keenan scored 6 points including the winner forTempo , with Ryan Keenan older brother registering 3 points, with Daryl also not a minor ,last minor year 2007.
Were you at the game Kiddo4??
That seems a bit of a collapse by devenish. did they not score in 2nd half??
Correct, no score from the defending league champions in the second half.
Anyone know what's going on with Womble?
Hoganstand have a story up saying he's leaving the country again.
Quote from: ExiledGael on June 14, 2009, 08:14:55 PM
Anyone know what's going on with Womble?
Hoganstand have a story up saying he's leaving the country again.
I heard he left again last week, don't know whether it was for Oz or for the States.
SFL Division One
Belcoo 3-10 4-09 Roslea
Teemore 1-09 0-12 St. Patrick's
St. Joseph's 1-10 2-09 Newtown
Tempo 0-11 1-07 Devenish
SFL Division Two
Lisnaskea 3-08 1-08 Erne Gaels
Irivnestown 0-14 2-19 Brookeboro
Quote from: FermPundit on June 14, 2009, 09:51:30 PM
SFL Division One
Belcoo 3-10 4-09 Roslea
Teemore 1-09 0-12 St. Patrick's
St. Joseph's 1-10 2-09 Newtown
Tempo 0-11 1-07 Devenish
SFL Division Two
Lisnaskea 3-08 1-08 Erne Gaels
Irivnestown 0-14 2-19 Brookeboro
f*ckin hel, where did the hebers get these scoring forwards from?
Derrygonnelly 0-11 Enniskillen Gaels 2-10.
Womble is gone. Australia as far as i know.
Must be very tough for some of the boys who played in the league to see a man flown in to play 15 minutes and then as soon as they are put ,he gets the first plane out of there. Poor IMO and the management must shoulder some blame for letting this situation arise
Quote from: FermGael on June 14, 2009, 10:05:37 PM
Derrygonnelly 0-11 Enniskillen Gaels 2-10.
Womble is gone. Australia as far as i know.
Must be very tough for some of the boys who played in the league to see a man flown in to play 15 minutes and then as soon as they are put ,he gets the first plane out of there. Poor IMO and the management must shoulder some blame for letting this situation arise
What time was the game today? Was it home or away?
It was in Derrygonnelly at 5.30 as far as i know.
Daniel and Matthew Keenan and Ronan Mccabe were all injured and did not play. Good result
Kinawley drew with Coa
Coa going well.
Not the diaster that everyone was predicting.
Good to see
Was going to post links to a few of the threads on the hoganstand/fermanagh website that are fairly interesting topics. But then I read a different one that had quotes such as:
"O'Rourke and the so called a "management team",....., should be shown the door. They havent a clue"
and i've seen sense again!
anyone got the div 1 table at hand?
From the Fermanagh herald
MANOR HOUSE SFL 1
Team Pld W L D Pts
Roslea 7 4 1 2 10
Newtownbutler 7 4 2 1 9
Belcoo 7 3 1 3 9
Enniskillen 7 3 2 2 8
Devenish 7 3 2 2 8
Derrygonnelly 7 3 3 1 7
Teemore 7 1 2 4 6
Tempo 7 3 4 0 6
St Patricks 7 1 4 2 4
St Josephs 7 1 5 1 3
cheers fella, wide open
Minor A Championsip Final, played in Kinawley tonight.
Enniskillen 0-13 1-10 Belcoo
SFL Division 2
Kinawley 0-10 0-9 Lisnaskea
Tempo 0-11 Derrygonnelly 0-10
Three wins on the trot for the Maguires who are now in the right half of the table
SFL Division 1
St. Pat's 1-5 1-13 Devenish
St. Joseph's 0-13 1-7 Roslea
Newtown 0-14 1-14 Teemore
Derrygonnelly 0-10 0-11 Tempo
Belcoo 0-12 1-9 Enniskillen
SFL Division 2
Coa 3-8 1-13 Derrylin
Brookeboro 2-14 0-10 Aughadrumsee
Erne Gaels 0-10 1-3 Irvinestown
Kinawley 0-10 0-9 Lisnaskea
MANOR HOUSE SFL 1
Team Pld W L D Pts
Roslea 8 4 2 2 10
Belcoo 8 3 1 4 10
Devenish 8 3 2 2 10
Enniskillen 8 3 2 3 9
Newtownbutler 8 4 3 1 9
Teemore 8 2 2 4 8
Tempo 8 4 4 0 8
Derrygonnelly 8 3 4 1 7
St Josephs 8 2 5 1 5
St Patricks 8 1 5 2 4
Updated table. Good win for St Joseph's today that keeps them in touch.
3 points separates 1st and 3rd from bottom. Very tight league this year
Seen a few reports on the hoganstand about a Belcoo player getting his jaw broke against the Gaels, any word on who was involved or what the story was??
when does the championship start in fermanagh?!
First round scheduled for the weekend of the 8th August, but already pressure put on to change this as it doesn't suit a player!!!! :( :o
Belcoo v Enniskillen Fri. @ 8pm At Lisnaskea
Lisnaskea v Brookeboro Sat @ 8pm At Tempo
Roslea v Teemore Sun @ 3pm At Enniskillen
St. Patricks v Erne Gaels Sun @ 4.30pm At Enniskillen
Quote from: AidyMac on June 24, 2009, 10:27:57 AM
First round scheduled for the weekend of the 8th August, but already pressure put on to change this as it doesn't suit a player!!!! :( :o
Belcoo v Enniskillen Fri. @ 8pm At Lisnaskea
Lisnaskea v Brookeboro Sat @ 8pm At Tempo
Roslea v Teemore Sun @ 3pm At Enniskillen
St. Patricks v Erne Gaels Sun @ 4.30pm At Enniskillen
One player??! :o
Thats what the rumour is, but cannot see it being true.
Would say that the fixtures listed there will be played when they are meant to.
Query for people.
Do other other CB send out a fixture list to clubs at the start of the year, and how accurate is this kept to?
Only asking as the the league is half way through and we have played some teams twice and yet to play other teams?
Surley the fixtures should be played in the order that they were sent out it??
Ah right ok!
Yeh at the start of the season the Down CB send us a list of senior and reserve fixtures and dates for every league game as well as probable championship starting date. Mostly they are stuck to pretty well with the odd exception, sometimes games are moved to the thursday night of the week or something but they all generally get played in the right order! Sounds like yours are abit all over the place sometimes, is this just because fixtures appear different in the paper than were originally sent out?
Not sure, would assume that the CB send out the details to the newspapers on a weekly basis
Don't mind games being moved to during the week, but when they are changes totally it makes things a bit hard to plan
Did anyone hear about 3 new players being brought into the Fermanagh panel this week ?
Confirmed Jimmy
http://www.nwipp-newspapers.com/FH/free/294790247338510.php (http://www.nwipp-newspapers.com/FH/free/294790247338510.php)
QuoteFermanagh manager, Malachy O'Rourke has called up three players to the county panel to replace Mark Murphy, Ciaran 'O'Reilly and Paul Johnston, who have all left the panel.
Niall McGovern of Belcoo, Seamus Quigley from Roslea and Paul Cosgrove of St Pat's, who himself returned from Australia earlier in the year, are the three to earn the call up. The three new faces trained with the rest of the panel on Monday night and will be available for selection for Saturday week's Qualifier against Wicklow. Speaking to the 'Herald' this week, O'Rourke said he had personally watched all three players and had not approached any other player's to enter the squad.
"They are in for the short-term till we see if they have the commitment at that level of football. The door is certainly not closed to anybody else. It is very much open and we're looking to see who is there.
"I've watched all three myself and I was very impressed by the three of them. Those were the three we approached and all three were very keen to come on board and trained with the squad last night (Monday)."
Interesting.
Never heard Johnston was leaving but presumably that's just a case of him being fed up waiting on a chance. We're quite well covered in that area but Quigley is the really interesting one. Hope to God they can get him settled and committed. The most talented forward in the county by some distance. It's a long shot, but him Blobby and Eamon would be a top class forward line. This must mean the county board have cleared Quigley for action down south, hope he repays them in kind. Cosgrove will be a good option too, probably the best midfielder in county Championship last year on St Pat's run to title. Hopefully he can bulk up a bit for the senior county level.
ExiledGael what do mean by the Co.Board must have cleared Quigley for action down south???? Is he barred from entering the free state or something??!!
Quote from: ExiledGael on June 24, 2009, 06:24:11 PM
Interesting.
Never heard Johnston was leaving but presumably that's just a case of him being fed up waiting on a chance. We're quite well covered in that area but Quigley is the really interesting one. Hope to God they can get him settled and committed. The most talented forward in the county by some distance. It's a long shot, but him Blobby and Eamon would be a top class forward line. This must mean the county board have cleared Quigley for action down south, hope he repays them in kind. Cosgrove will be a good option too, probably the best midfielder in county Championship last year on St Pat's run to title. Hopefully he can bulk up a bit for the senior county level.
Three good additions to the squad, but Quigley is definitely the one we've be crying out for. Fierce amount of pressure for a young fella though, who amazingly has been on the club scene for years given his age. I can see him starting against Wicklow, probably at CHF of FF. The other two lads will be on the bench.
Quote from: keeping an eye on things on June 24, 2009, 06:36:30 PM
ExiledGael what do mean by the Co.Board must have cleared Quigley for action down south???? Is he barred from entering the free state or something??!!
That rumour has been doing the rounds, not sure of the validity of it and as we should always state on a public forum it is mere speculation.
Quote from: inisceithleann on June 24, 2009, 06:39:39 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on June 24, 2009, 06:24:11 PM
Interesting.
Never heard Johnston was leaving but presumably that's just a case of him being fed up waiting on a chance. We're quite well covered in that area but Quigley is the really interesting one. Hope to God they can get him settled and committed. The most talented forward in the county by some distance. It's a long shot, but him Blobby and Eamon would be a top class forward line. This must mean the county board have cleared Quigley for action down south, hope he repays them in kind. Cosgrove will be a good option too, probably the best midfielder in county Championship last year on St Pat's run to title. Hopefully he can bulk up a bit for the senior county level.
Three good additions to the squad, but Quigley is definitely the one we've be crying out for. Fierce amount of pressure for a young fella though, who amazingly has been on the club scene for years given his age. I can see him starting against Wicklow, probably at CHF of FF. The other two lads will be on the bench.
I think he could start too, he's been posting unreal tallies in the league in the last few weeks.
Quigley didn't play against Ederney at the weekend. Is he carrying an injury ?
Quote from: Jimmyjimson on June 25, 2009, 01:38:29 PM
Quigley didn't play against Ederney at the weekend. Is he carrying an injury ?
NO
Tempo beaten by 5 today
Were the county boys prevented from playing today?
Gaelic Life referred to a Fermanagh friendly against Donegal last week. Apparently we were stuffed but with a very experimental team. Interestingly Niall McGovern, Paul Cosgrove and Seamie Quigley all got on the scoresheet.
Looking forward to the road trip next Saturday.
Enniskillen 0.9 Devenish 6.16 in the league this afternoon in BrewsterPark
SFL Division 1
Derrygonnelly 1-14 2-6 Belcoo
Enniskillen 0-9 6-16 Devenish
Newtown 0-11 1-10 Roslea
St. Joseph's 0-10 0-6 St. Patrick's
Teemore 1-10 0-8 Tempo
SFL Division 2
Erne Gaels 1-9 0-11 Kinawley
Brookeboro 0-13 3-10 Coa
Irvinestown 1-8 1-10 Derrylin
Quote from: FermPundit on June 28, 2009, 08:45:12 PM
SFL Division 1
Derrygonnelly 1-14 2-6 Belcoo
Enniskillen 0-9 6-16 Devenish
Newtown 0-11 1-10 Roslea
St. Joseph's 0-10 0-6 St. Patrick's
Teemore 1-10 0-8 Tempo
SFL Division 2
Erne Gaels 1-9 0-11 Kinawley
Brookeboro 0-13 3-10 Coa
Irvinestown 1-8 1-10 Derrylin
What in God's name happended the Gaels this afternoon, that must be up there with one of the biggest defeats ever for the senior team?
Don't think Devenish have one player on county panel and they really benefit any week all teams are without county players.
Still a shocking tally for the Gaels to concede, they haven't too many on the county panel themselves.
St Pat's have really fallen from grace after the Championship last year.
The Gaels were missing half the team today so I wouldn't read too much into the defeat, but to lose by such a margin is really disappointing. Devenish are a great side with a good blend of young players with old campaigners like Shaun Burns adding much needed experience to a young side. John O'Flanagan looked very sharp today as well. They're dark horses for the championship for sure. Donagh are really struggling this year and they look certain to be relegated unless they really pick themselves up. With Ederney now starting to find their feet in division one, it looks like one of the bigger clubs could drop into serious relegation trouble.
Ferm Pundit,
Do you reckon any of the Devenish boys will be ready for the county panel next season ?
Quote from: Jimmyjimson on June 29, 2009, 01:34:30 PM
Ferm Pundit,
Do you reckon any of the Devenish boys will be ready for the county panel next season ?
How are the two O'Brien lads coming along? Any other good young players coming through for possible u21s or seniors with fermanagh?
Quote from: supersub on June 29, 2009, 01:37:38 PM
Quote from: Jimmyjimson on June 29, 2009, 01:34:30 PM
Ferm Pundit,
Do you reckon any of the Devenish boys will be ready for the county panel next season ?
How are the two O'Brien lads coming along? Any other good young players coming through for possible u21s or seniors with fermanagh?
The two O'Briens, from what I hear are great prospects, as is Barry Mulrone. I've seen him play a few times and have always been impressed. At u-21 level Fermanagh have been fairly poor the last number of seasons, which doesn't bode well for the future senior teams.
If I knew how to post pictures, I think a tumbleweed would be appropriate.
Is it still too early for post-mortems?
Quote from: ExiledGael on July 09, 2009, 07:09:12 PM
If I knew how to post pictures, I think a tumbleweed would be appropriate.
Is it still too early for post-mortems?
Not too early for post portems. The harsh reality is that we're simply not good enough. Our strength always lay in our team work, togetherness and organisation. Our game plan of defending and counter attacking was sussed out this season. This together with our inability to find a few scoring forwards ultimately led to our downfall.
I don't blame O'Rourke. The game plan worked last season. However I don't see how he can take us any further. Next season, we need to play a few more younger players, for example a few of the Devenish lads. It may seem a bit harsh but a bit of an overhaul is needed.
Overalls?
Instead of shorts and jerseys is that? How would that help? :D
Quote from: ExiledGael on July 09, 2009, 08:06:05 PM
Overalls?
Instead of shorts and jerseys is that? How would that help? :D
It'd be worth a try! :D
I think we've tried everything else.
A year (almost) away on club duty might do no harm and give a few players a much needed break. The most of the panel were playing club football right up until November and probably back on weights programmes and that for the year ahead before the season had even ended. We certainly didn't seem to have that hunger and drive this year. Injuries also played their part and hopefully Owens and Marty will be back at the peak of their powers next spring.
The potential is still there.
Someone on the Cavan thread mentioned that Little has completed his transfer to Cavan Gaels so that will hopefully help him too.
SFL Division 1
Derrygonnelly 0-6 1-11 Roslea
Newtownbutler 1-11 0-14 St. Patrick's - Saturday
Enniskillen 0-11 0-12 Teemore - Friday night
SFL Division 2
Derrylin 2-8 3-12 Erne Gaels
Coa 0-14 0-7 Aughadrumsee
SFL Division 2 - Played tonight
Kinawley 1-9 0-8 Brookeboro
Weekend results
SFL Division 1
Belcoo 0-9 1-6 St. Josephs
Newtown 1-12 0-11 Enniskillen
St. Patricks 2-12 1-7 Tempo
SFL Division 2
Irvinestown 0-8 2-10 Erne Gaels
Aughadrumasee 2-10 1-12 Brookeboro
Derrylin 3-9 2-7 Coa
what is next round of Div 1 fixtures and when are they being played?
SFL Division 2 result from tonight
Lisnaskea 0-10 1-10 Kinawley
SFL Division 1
Newtownbutler 0-8 0-6 Belcoo
Devenish 0-6 2-6 Teemore
St. Pat's 1-5 1-9 Enniskillen
Derrygonnelly 0-3 1-6 St. Joseph's
Roslea 1-9 1-9 Tempo
SFL Division 2
Brookeboro 0-9 2-9 Lisnaskea
SFL Division 1
Pld Pts
Roslea 12 15
Devenish 12 14
Teemore 11 14
Newtown 12 14
Belcoo 12 13
Enniskillen 12 11
Tempo 12 11
St. Joseph's 12 10
Derrygonnelly 11 9
St. Patrick's 12 7
thanks FermPundit. nice swift updates there which aren't available in too many places
Results from last night.
SFL 1
Derrygonnelly 2-11 0-8 Teemore
SFL 2
Lisnaskea 0-10 0-3 Irvinestown
Updated SFL 1 table
Pld Pts
Roslea 12 15
Devenish 12 14
Teemore 12 14
Newtown 12 14
Belcoo 12 13
Enniskillen 12 11
Tempo 12 11
Derrygonnelly 12 11
St. Joseph's 12 10
St. Patrick's 12 7
Friday night results
SFL 1
Devenish 0-12 2-5 Newtown
Roslea 1-12 0-6 Enniskillen
Updated SFL 1 table
Pld Pts
Roslea 13 17
Devenish 13 16
Teemore 12 14
Newtown 13 14
Belcoo 12 13
Enniskillen 13 11
Tempo 12 11
Derrygonnelly 12 11
St. Joseph's 12 10
St. Patrick's 12 7
well ladies and gents the championship is upon us, any thoughts on how the championship mite go. i personally think its too close to call and there are at least 6 teams in with a shout, anyone know the odds with the bookies.
Honestly have no clue.
Lucky dip may be the way to go
taken from http://www.impartialreporter.com/sport/gaa/articles/2009/08/06/389470-big-brew-opts-out-after-nearly-two-decades-at-top/ (http://www.impartialreporter.com/sport/gaa/articles/2009/08/06/389470-big-brew-opts-out-after-nearly-two-decades-at-top/)
QuoteBig Brew opts out after nearly two decades at top
As Fermanagh builds up to the Club Championship this weekend, one man's absence will stand out for Gaels across the county.
It has been 19 years since Paul Brewster pulled on an Enniskillen Gaels senior jersey for the first time. Since that day the colossal midfielder has competed in 17 senior championships, only missing out on two occasions due to injury and a summer spent in America.
In an era where the amateur status of Gaelic football may face its toughest challenge yet, Brewster embodies the traditional GAA clubman; strong, committed and ever-present, no matter what the hurdle. Having collected eight Championship winners medals as well as leading Enniskillen to two Ulster club finals, Brewster can surely be regarded as one of the most decorated club players the county has ever seen.
Brewster did not pin his decision to hang up his boots on a lack of desire, but felt there were a number of factors.
"I have a young family now and don't have as much spare time as I used to. To be honest I loved the training but haven't been able to do it in recent years as much as I would like to. You find your fitness drops and then you become a bit of a passenger."
Being the self-effacing man who has won respect from his footballing peers, Brewster also joked: "I'm getting on a bit as well if you haven't notice. It isn't for lack of trying but there is no doubt that it's a young man's game."
Having acted as the inspirational catalyst for the Gaels' last Championship win in 2006, some would suggest that Brewster still has the ability to govern football pitches around Fermanagh, however Brewster himself humbly suggests that it is time for others to carry the flag. "The way I look at it now is that with a fit squad I wouldn't get near the team anyway. There are enough good players to carry the boys through and looking at some of the young lads, I couldn't even lace their boots."
Whether one will agree with this self-assessment is doubtful, but Brewster feels happy with his contribution over the years and hopes this will help resist any pangs of desire to take to the field come Friday.
"I feel like I have given my all for the club since I started playing and don't really think I could do much more. On Friday I will happily take my place in the stands alongside the rest of the fans and cheer the boys on," he said.
Looking back on his illustrious career for Enniskillen Gaels and Fermanagh, Brewster highlighted one particular match as his career highlight. "Beating Crossmaglen in Brewster Park back in 2001 was definitely the best match I have ever played in," enthused the barrel-chested midfielder, who also pin pointed the Gaels' 'six in a row' side as the best he has ever played in. "That squad going full throttle was unbelievable and I have never played in a team like it. Those five or six years were great and I wouldn't give them back for anything. We didn't win an Ulster Championship in the end but that doesn't take away from what we achieved."
Whether the sparkle in his boots has finally faded or not, the absence of Brewster's booming voice and powerful leadership will be sorely missed by Enniskillen Gaels and fans across the county alike. With brother Tom still flying the Brewster flag, Paul revealed he has a plan to continue his legacy. "A young Brewster was born just before Christmas and despite not living in Enniskillen, we hope to get him into a Gaels jersey some day."
If 'young Brew' does make it to Brewster Park, he will have one of the best teachers around at his side.
Friday 7th August In Emmett Park, Lisnaskea
Kevin Courtney Car Sales IFC
Kinawley v Aughadrumsee at 6.30pm
Quinn Insurance SFC
Belcoo v Enniskillen at 8.00pm
Saturday 8th August In Tempo
Kevin Courtney Car Sales IFC
Irvinestown v St.Joseph's at 6.30pm
Quinn Insurance SFC
Lisnaskea v Brookeborough at 8.00pm
Sunday 9th August In Brewster Park Enniskillen
Quinn Insurance SFC
Roslea v Teemore at 3.00pm
St.Patrick's v Erne Gaels at 4.30pm
Kinawley beat Aghadrumsee 1.10 to 1.6
Enniskillen beat Belcoo by a point
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on August 08, 2009, 09:57:17 PM
Lisnaskea beat Brookeborough tonight by a point in the championship. the referee tried his best to make a real cnut of the game :-\
Agreed. The standard last night and tonight was extremely poor.
Ederney beat Irvinestown in the first game tonight.
St. Joseph's 1-15 0-7 Irvinestown
What about the 2 Lisnaskea players that were dismissed.
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on August 08, 2009, 10:14:11 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on August 08, 2009, 10:09:03 PM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on August 08, 2009, 09:57:17 PM
Lisnaskea beat Brookeborough tonight by a point in the championship. the referee tried his best to make a real cnut of the game :-\
Agreed. The standard last night and tonight was extremely poor.
Ederney beat Irvinestown in the first game tonight.
St. Joseph's 1-15 0-7 Irvinestown
Are you saying Ferm that the standard of referring has been poor or the games themselves? tonights game was no great spectle but it was a tight championship game, Skea where favourites to walk this game but Brookeborough probably feek they should have at least got a draw, had the chances at the very end.
Both. The standard of refereeing was poor, but it has been poor for a while. However, it's probably no better or no worse than any other county. The standard of play in the Fermanagh leagues and championship so far this year has been awful. It's no wonder why the Fermanagh senior team is struggling so badly at the minute.
SFC result
Roslea 2-10 0-8 Teemore
SFC result
St. Patrick's 1-10 1-8 Erne Gaels
Quote from: FermPundit on August 09, 2009, 04:48:55 PM
SFC result
Roslea 2-10 0-8 Teemore
Apparently Seamus Quigley hit 2-8 of this for Roslea. Hugh Brady and Barry Owens couldn't handle him.
We really need Quigley out in the right frame of mind for the county next year, could be a serious addition.
Quote from: 689908 on August 10, 2009, 03:23:55 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on August 09, 2009, 04:48:55 PM
SFC result
Roslea 2-10 0-8 Teemore
Apparently Seamus Quigley hit 2-8 of this for Roslea. Hugh Brady and Barry Owens couldn't handle him.
We really need Quigley out in the right frame of mind for the county next year, could be a serious addition.
He's the most talented forward currently playing Fermanagh club football. There is no doubt about that. In the qualifer against Wicklow a few weeks ago he was superb before a shoulder injury ended his game prematurely.
Were you at any of the games pundit?
I was at the Kinawley/Aghadrumsee and Enniskillen/Belcoo double-header. I fancied Enniskillen for the championship before that game but I can't see it now. Lucky to beat Belcoo who also didn't play to nearly their full potential.
The Kinawley/Aghadrumsee game was dire stuff.
I fancy Devenish for it now.
Quote from: 689908 on August 10, 2009, 04:47:15 PM
Were you at any of the games pundit?
I was at the Kinawley/Aghadrumsee and Enniskillen/Belcoo double-header. I fancied Enniskillen for the championship before that game but I can't see it now. Lucky to beat Belcoo who also didn't play to nearly their full potential.
The Kinawley/Aghadrumsee game was dire stuff.
I fancy Devenish for it now.
I was at the games on Friday and Saturday night. Althought Enniskillen only played well in patches, they're still my tip for the championship. There is no substitute for experience and experience is what got the Gaels over the line against Belcoo. The match against Devenish will be really interesting. Devenish are the form team going by league positions but they haven't made an impact in the championship in a long number of years.
I agree the Kinawley Aghadrumsee match was hard to watch. Kinawley will probably make the final easily enough but I can't see them beating Ederney. They were quite impressive on Saturday night even without Marty McGrath. It looks like they have really benefited from playing Division one football this year.
FSFC QF line up
Enniskillen
Devenish
Verdict Youth against experience. Devenish to make the breakthrough
St. Patricks
Roslea
Verdict Quigley on fire for Roslea and after they dispatched of Teemore so convincingly they would have to be favourites against the defending champions (who have struggled in the league)
Derrygonnelly
Tempo
Verdict Two enigmatic sides. Tempo would appear to have the stronger panel and should come through this one
Lisnaskea
Newtownbutler
Verdict Newtownbutler to come through this one with a few points to spare
Enniskillen v Devenish
Sound predictions, Caid, although I do fancy the Gaels to beat Devenish. I think there is at least one last kick out of this very experienced Gaels squad. The fact that Brewster, Bradley nor the two Keenans haven't been be involved in the county set up has benefited Enniskillen this year. I know their league form is so inconsistent, but on paper they have the strongest team out of the remaining eight teams. Devenish have plenty of good, young players, but I think experience will see the Gaels through to the semi finals.
Roslea v St. Pat's
Roslea are the team that have been most impressive this is year. Credit is due to Peter McGinnity for turning things around over the last couple of seasons. They have already secured the junior championship so they will be confident of doing well in the senior championship as well. However, you get the feeling that they are too over reliant on Seamus Quiqley. If St. Pat's double mark him and if Eamon Maguire plays anywhere near his potential, then Donagh have every chance of progressing. I'll go for a draw in this one.
Tempo v Derrygonnelly.
This is a very interesting tie. Tempo are probably a replica of Derrygonnelly seven or eight years ago with so many good underage players coming through. Derrygonnelly were able to make the break through at senior level but I'm not so sure Tempo can do the same. They certainly have the players, but their league form suggests they are a few years ago from seriously challenging for senior honours. That's not to say they won't beat the Harps though. If Tempo can compete at midfield and get quality ball into the Ryan and Daryl Keenan, then I fancy them to progress to the semi finals.
Newtown v Lisnaskea.
A local derby which is always hard to call. Lisnaskea look set to make a quick return to division one but they haven't been beating division two teams conviningly this season. They just about beat Brookeboro on Saturday, whilst Newtown, after an indifferent start to the league look to have a found a bit of form at the right time. There won't be much in it at the end, but I expect Newtown to get through.
No. of county panelists
Enniskillen (2)
Devenish (1)
St. Patricks (3)
Roslea (2)
Derrygonnelly (1)
Tempo (4)
Lisnaskea (2)
Newtownbutler (2)
Source: wikipedia
This analysis says very little as Tempo have failed to deliver any consistency despite having four county men. However, it is difficult to support Enniskillen having the strongest team on paper as many of the big names are past their best. But there is always very little between any of the teams in Fermanagh (except towards the end of the 90's etc). To that end, Roslea may have the motivation and ability to spring a shock in this years Championship. They just won the Junior Championship too didn't they?
Caid Roslea have 3.
James Sherry, Peter Sherry and Seamus Quigley
Ya I noticed that but the wiki data is as of the Cavan match so I just ran with that. Quigley came in after that I think
Roslea look like a hungry youthful team and the experience coming from the sideline in the shape of McGinnity so it will be interesting to see if they can follow up the impressive victory over Teemore against the defending champions. The ability to keep cool heads under pressure and to see some of the other forwards or midfielders scoring will become more important as the championship progresses. Quigley is a class act, sticking over frees from outside the 50 off the ground is really what Fermanagh need. There are question marks everywhere over this game and it will surely be much tighter so if St Pats can handle Quigley and keep the game tight or be in front with 10 to go it could swing the match in their favour.
I was at the double header in Tempo on Saturday night. St Joe's v Irvinestown game was actually close enough until the last 15 mins or so when Ederney pulled away. They always had the greater scoring threat though and Ferris was knocking over long range frees for fun. Irvinestown have a couple of very good young players, Murphy who played around midfield looks particularly handy but the problem is they've had to promote too many players this year who aren't ready for senior football. It'll be interesting to see how many of the 'soccer' players come back. Coa could put it up to Ederney in the next round but I suppose it depends how many of their soccer players play on the day. Without McGrath in midfield Ederney are a bit light in this department but all of their forwards are quick and nippy and Peter Gormley should be back for the next game which will give them a bit more direction.
The senior game wasn't the best standard but it was virtually ruined by the referee and the linesmen. Skea only started playing in the 2nd half after they conceded what was a very soft goal. Kille scored an absolute clinker of a goal and when the chips were down he and Aidy Little provided that bit of class up front which was the difference on the night. Paddy Moane is a big loss for Brookeboro and in the 1st half in particular Skea could have been in for at least 3 goals. In the last five mins or so Brookeboro virtually owned the ball but their shot selection was poor. With the exception of Rooney none of the forwards looked confident in front of the posts. Thought McKenna had a great game at full back for the winners. As for the sendings off the Skea centre forward was put off for mouthing and the second was for the big sub (Clancy I think) for an alleged strike after a hop ball schamozle. Skea were convinced that the Brookeboro corner back had dived but I was too far away to see what really happened. You can't see Newtown haven't too many problems with Skea in the next round but it'll be a bit of a derby so you never know.
Regular guest Joe Brolly will be joined this year by fellow Derry man and Antrim Football Manager Liam Bradley,
Armagh's Oisin Mc Conville and Cork's All-Ireland Hurling winning Captain in 1990,RTE Hurling analyst Tomás Mulcahy.
Other guests will be confirmed closer to the event
Throw-in @ 8.30pm and MC for the event will be Jerome Quinn.
Tickets £10 to include entry to a draw for two All-Ireland Hurling Final tickets and two All-Ireland Football Final tickets
Results from last night
SFL 1
Enniskillen 1-10 1-9 Newtownbutler
Tempo 1-12 1-12 St. Patricks
Teemore beat Derrygonnelly and Roslea beat Devenish. Not sure of the scorelines.
Belcoo and St Josephs play on Sunday.
Updated table after last night results. I would say that Roslea and Teemore and probably Devenish are now safe. After that it's anybody's guess. Derrygonnelly look to be on the slide and an important win for the Gaels last night too. Anybody from Newtown down can still get relegated with 4 rounds still left to play.
In Div 2 Erne Gaels are up and Lisnaskea need one more win to get up as well.
Manor House SFL 1
Team Played Points
Roslea 14 19
Teemore 14 18
Devenish 14 16
Newtownbutler 14 14
Tempo 14 14
Belcoo 13 13
Enniskillen 14 13
Derrygonnelly 14 11
St. Josephs 13 10
St. Patricks 14 10
SFL 2
Brookeboro 0-11 1-12 Erne Gaels
Lisnaskea 1-14 0-7 Derrylin
Irvinestown 3-11 1-6 Coa
Result from today
St. Josephs 0-3 3-14 Belcoo
Leaves the table like this
Manor House SFL 1
Team Played Points
Roslea 14 19
Teemore 14 18
Devenish 14 16
Belcoo 14 15
Newtownbutler 14 14
Tempo 14 14
Enniskillen 14 13
Derrygonnelly 14 11
St. Josephs 134 10
St. Patricks 14 10
Nearly slipped from the front page there.
Any more thoughts on the weekend Championship matches ?
Friday 21st August
In Brookeboro at 7pm
SFC Quarter Final
Roslea V St Patrick's
Saturday 22nd August
In Enniskillen at 5.30pm
IFC Semi Final
Derrylin V Kinawley
At 7pm
SFC Quarter Final
Derrygonnelly V Tempo
In Donagh at 7pm
SFC Quarter Final
Newtownbutler V Lisnaskea
Sunday 23rd August
In Kinawley at 5.30pm
IFC Semi Final
Coa V St Josephs
at 7.00pm
SFC Quarter Final
Devenish V Enniskillen
I'd go for Roslea, Tempo, Newtownbutler & Enniskillen in the Seniors and Ederny & Kinawley in the Intermediate.
I think most people are going for a Kinawley vs St Joe's final in the intermediate.
In the senior I think the Gaels vs Devenish will be a cracking game. Devenish have a great mix of youth and experience and may have too much going forward for the Gaels.
Otherwise, I can see Roslea progressing handily enough, Derrygonnelly beating Tempo and Newtown beating Skea in a bad-tempered affair!
Quote from: 118cmal on August 19, 2009, 01:27:07 PM
I think most people are going for a Kinawley vs St Joe's final in the intermediate.
In the senior I think the Gaels vs Devenish will be a cracking game. Devenish have a great mix of youth and experience and may have too much going forward for the Gaels.
Otherwise, I can see Roslea progressing handily enough, Derrygonnelly beating Tempo and Newtown beating Skea in a bad-tempered affair!
One thing the Gaels have is a good defence.
I think Devenish have a suspect full back line. The Gaels still have Bradley, McCabe, M Keenan and McCarron playing in the forward line. Strong enough i feel to give them a win but it will be close. Maybe even a replay.
Tempo should beat Derrygonnelly who are a shambles this year by all accounts.
I think St Pat's may sneak it against Roslea. J Sherry will have his hands full at midfield. Young Cosgrove and McDermott could shade this sector and if St Pat's can keep a handle on Quigley, then they have every chance. If they get the ball in early to Eamonn, he could do damage.
Newtown should have to much for Lisnaskea. And yes i agree, it will be bad tempered.
In the Intermediate, it seems like a Kinawley vs St Joe's final
Speaking of bad-tempered, I'd say the Kinawley Derrylin game will have a few big hits in it as well. was at the league game in Derrylin last yer, 5/6 red cards. carnage. Derrylin only scored a point that day and I can see Kinawley easily progressing to the final.
Care to elaborate?
Roslea 2-2 St Pat's 0-1 after 25 minutes.
Goal each for the Quigley brothers. Both from high balls in.
Full-time Roslea 2-6 St Pat's 0-6.
Goals won it, not a great deal in the game but the damage was done early.
Seamie Quigley probably the difference. Donagh a little unlucky not to get a goal through Gary Maguire but in truth they never looked like winning it.
Quote from: ExiledGael on August 21, 2009, 08:25:03 PM
Full-time Roslea 2-6 St Pat's 0-6.
Goals won it, not a great deal in the game but the damage was done early.
Seamie Quigley probably the difference. Donagh a little unlucky not to get a goal through Gary Maguire but in truth they never looked like winning it.
No real surprise with this result. Roslea continue their impressive form. When was the last time they were in a SFC semi final?
No idea, didn't they go close in 90s when Tommy Callaghan was with them?
You'd have to fancy them now, they didn't have much trouble beating Devenish in the league last week and seem to be on a roll.
Quote from: ExiledGael on August 21, 2009, 08:53:13 PM
No idea, didn't they go close in 90s when Tommy Callaghan was with them?
You'd have to fancy them now, they didn't have much trouble beating Devenish in the league last week and seem to be on a roll.
Apparently Seamus Quigley hit a point from 60 yards!!
I'm not sure, Exiled. I still feel the championship winner will come from the Enniskillen or Devenish game. In saying that, Roslea will never have a better chance of going the whole way.
I should get down to see the Tempo v Derrygonnelly game tomorrow night. It should be a good match. I'll stick with my original prediction and go for a Tempo win.
Derrygonnelly will be really looking over their shoulders in the league now too. Things don't seem to be going well there.
Quote from: ExiledGael on August 21, 2009, 09:13:02 PM
Derrygonnelly will be really looking over their shoulders in the league now too. Things don't seem to be going well there.
No, the Harps are struggling. Do you think Donagh's exit from the championship will benefit them in the relegation battle?
Last year one seemed to compliment the other for them but normally you'd think it would benefit them concentrating on one competition.
They seemed to have picked up a bit of form in recent weeks and should re-focus on staying up now. Going by paper reports Eamon has found his feet again and they should survive but it's no coincidence they keep finding themselves in this situation.
Derrylin O'Connells 0-03 Kinawley Brian Boru's 0-04 at half time in the Intermediate Championship.
Derrylin 0-08 Kinawley 0-13, Full Time.
SFC Quarter Finals
Derrygonnelly 2-8 1-7 Tempo
Newtown beat Lisnaskea by 2 points
The final championship quarter final between Enniskillen and Devenish, which was due to be played in Kinawley tonight has been postponed
Fermanagh SFC semi final draw. Made last night
Quinn Insurance Senior Football Championship Semi-finals
Newtownbutler v Roslea
Derrygonnelly v Devenish or Enniskillen
These games will be played in Brewster Park, Enniskillen, the times of these games will be confirmed later.
The County final will take place in Brewster Park, Enniskillen on Sunday 27th September
The Quinn Insurance SFC quarter final and Kevin Courtney IFC Semi-final postponed from Sunday due to bad weather will take place this Sunday in Kinawley
Kevin Courtney Car Sales IFC at 5.00pm
Coa v St.Joseph's @ Kinawley
Quinn Insurance SFC at 6.30pm
Enniskillen v Devenish @ Kinawley
With the weather forecast not being great for this weekend, I hope they have another pitch on standby.
Joke, another weekend without a senior league game. Would be safe to assume that the semi final games will be on next weekend, unless there is a suspension that needs sorted. >:(
Quote from: FermPundit on August 21, 2009, 08:56:44 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on August 21, 2009, 08:53:13 PM
No idea, didn't they go close in 90s when Tommy Callaghan was with them?
You'd have to fancy them now, they didn't have much trouble beating Devenish in the league last week and seem to be on a roll.
Apparently Seamus Quigley hit a point from 60 yards!!
I'm not sure, Exiled. I still feel the championship winner will come from the Enniskillen or Devenish game. In saying that, Roslea will never have a better chance of going the whole way.
I should get down to see the Tempo v Derrygonnelly game tomorrow night. It should be a good match. I'll stick with my original prediction and go for a Tempo win.
cracking score indeed Ferm but it was wind assisted by what is best described as a stiff breeze
Told last night that the only senior games to be played in September, bar the championship is on the 13th
That means, for non-playing championship teams, 1 game in 7 weeks
Hardly worth your while playing football at this rate. Any wonder that people are leaving the Gaa and going elsewhere
People training since Feb, and by the looks of things, league not over until mid November >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Bredagh Talks Sam and Liam-Wellington Park Hotel @8.30pm Thurs 3rd Sept
Regular guest Joe Brolly will be joined this year by fellow Derry man and Antrim Football Manager Liam Bradley,
Armagh's Oisin Mc Conville,Radio Ulster's Lynnette Fay,Tyrone's Ryan Mc Menamin and Cork's All-Ireland Hurling winning Captain in 1990,RTE Hurling analyst Tomás Mulcahy.
Throw-in @ 8.30pm and MC for the event will be Jerome Quinn.
Tickets £10 to include entry to a draw for two All-Ireland Hurling Final tickets and two All-Ireland Football Final tickets
Tomorrow's SFC quarter final between Enniskillen and Devenish has been switched from Kinawley to Brewster Park.
The confirmed times and venues for today's games.
IFC
Coa v Ederney @ Irvinestown at 5pm
SFC
Enniskillen v Devenish @ Brewster Park at 6:30pm
Enniskillen 0-04 Devenish 0-04 at half time.
St. Joseph's Ederney 3-05 Coa O'Dwyers 1-10.
Enniskillen 0-05 Devenish 1-05, 20 mins gone in the second half.
Enniskillen 0-07 Devenish 2-07 Full Time result.
well done to Fermanagh ladies who showed plenty of heart to come out on top of a tough battle against longford on saturday evening on TG4
Roslea Shamrocks overcame a spirited and determined Newtownbutler team also on Saturday evening, 1-09 to 1-06 which sees them head into their first Fermanagh Senior Championship in 23 years.
Newtown lead 0-5 to 0-3 at half-time winning the midfield battle and some good scores from wing half-forward Connolly. But it was the men in green who came out of the blocks the much sharper reeling off 3 quick points seeing the half-time team talk doing wonders. Roslea took a grip around midfield with another solid performance from the capt. James Sherry, ably assisted by Cosgrove, two Quigley's, Peter Sherry and motm Peter Lynch. Roslea bagged a goal after some good attacking play seeing Niall Cosgrove slam home with 10 minutes to play and the margin was 6. The game got niggly with Newtown getting frustrated by the lack of scores only 1 point in 28 minutes which then saw McGuinness of Roslea get a second yellow card for handbags then a late goal put 3 between the teams near the final whistle.
Roslea play winners of Devenish and D'gonnelly which is being played later this evening.
SFC semi final
Devenish 0-5 2-9 Harps
IFC Final
Ederney 1-3 0-8 Kinawley
Just seen on the hoganstand that the championship final is on saturday 27th and will be played underlights. This is due to fermanagh ladies getting to the intermediate final. Congrats to them.
http://www.hoganstand.com/Fermanagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=117483 (http://www.hoganstand.com/Fermanagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=117483)
Malachy O'Rourke is happy with his decision to continue as Fermanagh football manager for a third year.
The Derrylin man had considered quitting after a disappointing 2009 which saw the Erne County relegated to Division 3 of the National League and beaten by Cavan and Wicklow in the championship but, after much deliberation, he has decided to continue in the role.
"Last year was disappointing because we never really got going like the way we did in 2008," he told the Irish News.
"It was just a case of looking at that and being sure that we were keen as a management team to go again and try and revitalise the whole thing.
"I've always said that it's a great privilege to manage your own county. So when I got a bit of space and thought about it, I was keen to get back. And I suppose we didn't want to leave it the way we did in 2009."
O'Rourke also revealed that he is likely to add a "fresh face" to his management team ahead of the new season.
Although a very disappointing year, I am happy to see O'Rourke commit to another year. Anyone have any ideas who the 'fresh face' might be? I'd have thought he might be hinting at someone from outside the county
Good morning
just on your thread to ask if anyone has a spare ticket or two for the all ireland
have followed our minors all year and now the big one has arrived i am badly stuck for tickets .
would be very gratefull for any help provided.
many thanks.
This thread has gone very quiet!
So what's the prediction for this weekend?
Derrygonnelly were very impressive against Devenish but I think Roslea will have too much. They have a very strong spine.
Also, a big congratulations to the Fermanagh Ladies on their AIF appearance!
Anybody know who Lisbellaw now play in the Ulster Series or when or where the match is fixed for?
Roslea to hammer Derrygonnelly. Lack of Discipline will cost Derrygonnelly!!
Roslea looking good for Saturday evening's encounter with 2 Sherrys and 2 Quigleys being the mainstay of the 15 on the field. (I wonder if playing under lights v Newtown gives them a slight advantage over some of the Derrygonnelly lads that might not have, can't really see that but you never know). The game will certainly hinge on the way Derrygonnelly handle the 2 young Quigley lads as 90% of the scoring comes from those 2. They are goal-getters and Seamus finally looks like he can take on the mantle of the county free-taker if he remains interested in football as he surely has a bright future ahead of him if he stays fit and keeps his head.
October 4th
Brewster Park
v winners of Lámh Dhearg and St Galls (Antrim Intermediate Hurling Final Replay)
All the best to the Lisbellaw lads for that one.
I Hope the fermanagh gaels get behind the team and show in Brewster for that one.
I'd expect it to be St Gall's.
St Galls may indeed be favourites but im sure a number of the dual players will also have one eye on the football at the minute. I would expect Lisbellaw to give either team a tough time of it.
from this week's Herald
This should go down to the wire
A novel pairing for this year's senior championship Derrygonnelly and Roslea facing each other for the first time on the competition's showpiece big day.
That in itself has generated an extra seam of anticipation into next Saturday night's encounter, the fact that it will also be the first time for the county final to feature under floodlights another factor to whet the appetite of perhaps the occasional supporter of the games.
So a more than bigger attendance hopefully then at Brewster Park and hopefully too that the game will live up to the pre match billing.
The senior championship of 2009 is much in need of a contest that will deliver a rousing and competitive tie, a game to restore the flagging reputation of the competition. For over the recent weeks there has unhappily been some far from memorable games as the competition trundled its way to next weekend's decider.
No reason however not to be optimistic that the Harps and the Shamrocks can indeed produce a suitably exciting and entertaining match and both will be coming into the game in a positive frame of mind.
Both too however will be keenly conscious that they will have to deliver one of their best team performances of the season if they are to emerge as champions.
For there is a more than solid case to be made for the merits of both teams and the expectation is that this will go down to the wire.
Roslea have had the slightly longer route to travel being involved in a preliminary round tie. Three games on their passage through to what is their first final in two decades.
They opened with a convincing dispatch of Teemore, followed that up by a similarly encouraging dismissal of then holders St Patricks and in the semi final they knocked out Newtownbutler with a rampant second half turnaround that brooked no argument about the result.
Three tidily effective team displays over strong opposition, Roslea have certainly earned their final slot in forceful fashion.
As for Derrygonnelly they made their appearance at the quarter final stage where they ended up comfortable winners over a Tempo side who had been entertaining strong ambitions.
In the semi final the Harps were to demolish a fancied Devenish side in one of the competition's most comprehensive victories.
For Derrygonnelly too there could be no doubt but that they earned their final slot in equally forceful style.
One of the main talking points about the upcoming clash is that of experience versus youth and how that will counter balance to a great extent the perception that it is Roslea who would be regarded as the slight favourites.
This favouritism is based on the fact that Roslea have been in overall terms much the more consistent team this season if the league is also taking into the reckoning. They are currently lying in second place here, Derrygonnelly on the other hand with a string of indifferent performances, labour in the relegation zone.
Roslea too have capably handled the trio of hurdles placed in front of them. Teemore, St Patricks and Newtownbutler were all teams with championship pedigree, but all three were decisively beaten by this effective and highly organised Roslea panel.
Roslea in effect have answered all questions put to them. No reason why they shouldn't step up to the required mark for the fourth time.
But Roslea are by no means the finished article.
They do have an Achille's heels and that is their lack of experience in comparison to that of Derrygonnelly.
Here the Harps are clearly the much more equipped side. Saturday will see them line out for their third final inside five seasons they have been around this course before.
And on that course Derrygonnelly have supped from both cups. They had the exhilaration of winning in 2004 when they ended Enniskillen's six season monopoly. Last year they tasted the bitter dregs of disappointment when they lost out to St Patricks.
In one sense the defeat of last autumn will have made Derrygonnelly even tougher opposition for they will be exceptionally keen to make amends for that failure.
They won't want to go down to championship final defeat for two successive seasons.
Derrygonnelly will be putting out a side which is steeped in experience. Roslea on the other hand, out of the final frame since 1989 will be fielding a squad who are venturing into new territory.
How the Shamrocks deal with that is a key issue and it will without doubt have a major bearing on how the game pans out.
Roslea cannot allow the occasion with all the hype and glamour associated with it, to undermine them.
Here they are clearly more vulnerable than the seasoned opposition who have been there, done that.
On the tactical front the game is also stippled with a range of hugely intriguing battles both collectively and individually.
In the middle of the park, veteran Martin Greene has been the lynchpin for the Harps, by simply doing the essential graft that is fundamental for the well being of any team. His duel with the more eyecatching displays of James Sherry will be especially crucial.
This duo have strong back up from colleagues Ryan Jones and Kevin Cosgrove respectively, so much so that it is hard to see either side being able to gain a distinct advantage in this area.
In the respective attacks much will be looked to from the proven scoring touch of Paul Ward for Derrygonnelly and Seamus Quigley for Roslea.
Ward has been a clinical finisher of the top drawer, his eye for goal unerring and Roslea simply cannot afford him leeway.
The Roslea defence too will have to curtail the input of Kevin Cassidy, whose leadership of the line is a massive asset in the Derrygonnelly attacking armoury.
The Roslea defence has been exemplary this season, producing highly effective displays, this Saturday they will be tested more thoroughly by the Cassidy-Ward combination with strong support for that duo tossed in by the sturdy Jonathan McGurn and the experienced Kevin McGrath.
At the other end of the park, the credentials of the Derrygonnelly back division will all be probed to the limit by a Roslea forward line which has Seamus Quigley as their top notch target man. Quigley on song and supplied with sufficient ammunition can do a considerable amount of damage.
Just as Ward has to be curtailed, it's a similar story for Quigley. Back up for Quigley will come from brother Sean, Ruairi McGuinness who may have a roving assignment and Niall Cosgrove.
All in all a finely poised affair.
Derrygonnelly were particularly impressive in their clearcut semi final victory over Devenish, a game which saw them look a very composed and self assured side.
All the components knitting in for what was one of the most efficient championship team displays of the campaign.
The way in which Derrygonnelly dealt with the Devenish challenge raised their profile immensely and it brings them into next Saturday looking exceptionally difficult opposition for a Roslea side who have had perhaps a greater share of attention so far.
Roslea have done all that has been asked of them so far with those three solid wins in the earlier rounds.
But they have to do it all again against a team who will be fully committed to avoiding the agony of a second successive championship final failure.
So far Roslea have responded but in a game which has the tantalising prospect of being a one or two pointer margin, they will have to deliver their strongest showing of the summer to come through.
In a real sense there is no pre match favourite for Saturday evening.
This is a game which both sides come into with a rooted belief that they will be 2009 kingpins of Lakeland.
They should serve up a championship final to savour..
Come on Roslea
Derrygonnelly 3-09 Roslea 1-07
Quote from: wanderer on September 11, 2009, 05:24:08 PM
Malachy O'Rourke is happy with his decision to continue as Fermanagh football manager for a third year.
The Derrylin man had considered quitting after a disappointing 2009 which saw the Erne County relegated to Division 3 of the National League and beaten by Cavan and Wicklow in the championship but, after much deliberation, he has decided to continue in the role.
"Last year was disappointing because we never really got going like the way we did in 2008," he told the Irish News.
"It was just a case of looking at that and being sure that we were keen as a management team to go again and try and revitalise the whole thing.
"I've always said that it's a great privilege to manage your own county. So when I got a bit of space and thought about it, I was keen to get back. And I suppose we didn't want to leave it the way we did in 2009."
O'Rourke also revealed that he is likely to add a "fresh face" to his management team ahead of the new season.
Although a very disappointing year, I am happy to see O'Rourke commit to another year. Anyone have any ideas who the 'fresh face' might be? I'd have thought he might be hinting at someone from outside the county
See by the looks of teletext last night your new fresh face is Johnny McBride!!!
http://www.impartialreporter.com/sport/gaa/articles/2009/10/01/389906-orourke-adds--mcbride-to--backroom-team/
good move by O'Rourke?
Very good move by O'Rourke. Johnny is a true leader and gives 100% to anything he is involved in. Very bad news for the Loup as surely this means the end of his playing career :'( :'(.
SFL Division 1
St. Josephs 2-9 1-11 Enniskillen
St. Patricks 0-8 0-13 Roslea
Newtownbutler 0-11 1-13 Tempo
Derrygonnelly 0-9 0-8 Devenish
Belcoo 1-10 2-7 Teemore
SFL Division 2
Derrylin 2-6 0-7 Irvinestown
League table for SFL 1
Team P W L D P+ P- P+/- Pts
Teemore 16 8 3 5 203 179 24 21
Roslea 16 9 4 3 209 200 9 21
Devenish 16 8 6 2 210 168 42 18
Tempo 16 8 6 2 209 211 -2 18
Belcoo 16 5 5 6 208 186 22 16
Derrygonnelly 16 7 8 1 190 199 -9 15
Newtownbutler 16 6 8 2 206 201 5 14
Enniskillen 16 5 8 3 204 232 -28 13
St. Patricks 16 4 8 4 187 204 -17 12
St. Josephs 16 5 9 2 162 208 -46 12
Quote from: greeny on September 23, 2009, 01:00:04 PM
St Galls may indeed be favourites but im sure a number of the dual players will also have one eye on the football at the minute. I would expect Lisbellaw to give either team a tough time of it.
ya's did that by trying to brutalise us on the pitch, ya know hurling sticks are for hitting the ball?
a shower of dirty Bast*rds
scoreline 6-16 to 1-6 (we'd 14 men for 50 minutes!!)
I hear 'Skea have laid on a free bar in the Donn Carragh for all the Milltown lads. ;)
Quote from: hardstation on October 04, 2009, 09:03:19 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 04, 2009, 09:01:23 PM
Quote from: greeny on September 23, 2009, 01:00:04 PM
St Galls may indeed be favourites but im sure a number of the dual players will also have one eye on the football at the minute. I would expect Lisbellaw to give either team a tough time of it.
ya's did that by trying to brutalise us on the pitch, ya know hurling sticks are for hitting the ball?
a shower of dirty Bast*rds
scoreline 6-16 to 1-6 (we'd 14 men for 50 minutes!!)
Excellent. Pished again milltown? Tell us more about this brutality. I want detail.
Congratulations btw.
nothing really to report. worst team i've ever seen trying to play hurling. shouldn't be allowed to play at that level ever again.
not drinking, honestly!
waiting till its all over
oh change the title of this thread, hurling is not what they play
Quote from: hardstation on October 04, 2009, 09:27:39 PM
Who got hit? Off the ball? Injuries? Sendings off?
all 20 players got hit!!! then their line got involved. nothing off the ball think they had 15 players booked we'd one!!
Quote from: milltown row on October 04, 2009, 09:01:23 PM
Quote from: greeny on September 23, 2009, 01:00:04 PM
St Galls may indeed be favourites but im sure a number of the dual players will also have one eye on the football at the minute. I would expect Lisbellaw to give either team a tough time of it.
ya's did that by trying to brutalise us on the pitch, ya know hurling sticks are for hitting the ball?
a shower of dirty Bast*rds
scoreline 6-16 to 1-6 (we'd 14 men for 50 minutes!!)
Jaysus Milltown would you not show a wee bit of class in victory.
Quote from: hardstation on October 04, 2009, 09:48:57 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 04, 2009, 09:26:39 PM
nothing really to report. worst team i've ever seen trying to play hurling. shouldn't be allowed to play at that level ever again.
not drinking, honestly!
waiting till its all over
oh change the title of this thread, hurling is not what they play
This one is even worse!
Aw FFS I didn't even see that. Come on Milltown - you'd expect that from a gombeen in the crowd, not from a man in your position. That's an awful slight on the club, the men who slog to get hurling in that part of the world up and running and those who have been coaching the young lads at that club for years. Ok, they possibly were outclassed and reacted badly but for Jaysus sake. If you think they lacked something, show them how it's done.
Quote from: ONeill on October 04, 2009, 09:47:13 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 04, 2009, 09:01:23 PM
Quote from: greeny on September 23, 2009, 01:00:04 PM
St Galls may indeed be favourites but im sure a number of the dual players will also have one eye on the football at the minute. I would expect Lisbellaw to give either team a tough time of it.
ya's did that by trying to brutalise us on the pitch, ya know hurling sticks are for hitting the ball?
a shower of dirty Bast*rds
scoreline 6-16 to 1-6 (we'd 14 men for 50 minutes!!)
Jaysus Milltown would you not show a wee bit of class in victory.
O'Neill save your tripe for someone else, you were'nt there. we are trying to play hurling. i reckon had they have tried to play hurling the game would have been a lot closer.
we as a club are trying to play in two competitions over the next few weeks with a lot of the same players. but you'd find that difficult to understand
you don't take a team to play in a premier competition and expect to be cut up like that.
That must be great news for Cavan Gaels. How many of your players are cut up, badly injured and unavailable for that game?
two weeks for that game so i'd say they should be fine, worried about the hurling ones as we are out again on Sunday.
today was bad. if clubs are coaching players to whack people then stop, think about your coaching and change it.
aye hardstation we were but we never hacked people down, we always tried to play hurling. would not have minded had they played hurling. like i said they would have done a lot better had they stuck to the hurling
Anytime St Galls played us in Glenariffe, after the match, win lose or draw we would feed the St Galls boyos with the finest granary bread sandwiches and their choice of freshly squeezed orange juice or tea before we waved them off on their long journey back to the big smoke.
Obviously you would think this is reciprocated in Milltown Row? Alas, no. What we are met with is no warm water, a blocked bog and the worst word in their mouth.
Shame on St Galls.
Quote from: Minder on October 04, 2009, 10:39:19 PM
Anytime St Galls played us in Glenariffe, after the match, win lose or draw we would feed the St Galls boyos with the finest granary bread sandwiches and their choice of freshly squeezed orange juice or tea before we waved them off on their long journey back to the big smoke.
Obviously you would think this is reciprocated in Milltown Row? Alas, no. What we are met with is no warm water, a blocked bog and the worst word in their mouth.
Shame on St Galls.
You're winding us surely.
Quote from: ONeill on October 04, 2009, 10:40:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 04, 2009, 10:39:19 PM
Anytime St Galls played us in Glenariffe, after the match, win lose or draw we would feed the St Galls boyos with the finest granary bread sandwiches and their choice of freshly squeezed orange juice or tea before we waved them off on their long journey back to the big smoke.
Obviously you would think this is reciprocated in Milltown Row? Alas, no. What we are met with is no warm water, a blocked bog and the worst word in their mouth.
Shame on St Galls.
You're winding us surely.
Well maybe, sometimes the orange juice was squeezed the day before.
That's bad form St Gall's. A wee bit of common decency is long remembered. Maybe Lisbellaw got wind of this.
What I cant understand is how Lisbellaw ended up in the Ulster Intermediate competition - junior would be more their level and i think they have been playing in that comp (unsuccessfully too) in previous years?
They won the Ulster Junior title last year so I suppose they wanted to try their hand at the Intermediate and got a hurling lesson. Still doesn't excuse Milltown's venom towards Fermanagh people and culture.
Quote from: milltown row on October 04, 2009, 10:01:35 PM
we as a club are trying to play in two competitions over the next few weeks with a lot of the same players. but you'd find that difficult to understand
If this was a real concern to you, why didn't you take the dual players off, given that you were whalloping them on the scoreboard?
i did, all the hurlers play football.
Hearing reports that your captain was sent off for headbutting a tiny Lisbellaw youngster. And what's this about your management team verbally and physically intimidating theirs? It takes two to tango but it seems there's more to this than meets the eye.
MR heard a few reports, how was the Ref? Not trying to start anything but we are keen to canvas opinions on this guy ourselves.
QuoteAw FFS I didn't even see that. Come on Milltown - you'd expect that from a gombeen in the crowd, not from a man in your position. That's an awful slight on the club, the men who slog to get hurling in that part of the world up and running and those who have been coaching the young lads at that club for years. Ok, they possibly were outclassed and reacted badly but for Jaysus sake. If you think they lacked something, show them how it's done.
I saw Lisbellaw play Mullahoran from Cavan in the junior last year, the game went to a replay.
Let me clearly state that lisbellaw were the dirtiest team I have ever seen. Couple of decent hurlers at that level but my God they were filthy.
Quote from: ONeill on October 04, 2009, 09:55:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 04, 2009, 09:48:57 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 04, 2009, 09:26:39 PM
nothing really to report. worst team i've ever seen trying to play hurling. shouldn't be allowed to play at that level ever again.
not drinking, honestly!
waiting till its all over
oh change the title of this thread, hurling is not what they play
This one is even worse!
Aw FFS I didn't even see that. Come on Milltown - you'd expect that from a gombeen in the crowd, not from a man in your position. That's an awful slight on the club, the men who slog to get hurling in that part of the world up and running and those who have been coaching the young lads at that club for years. Ok, they possibly were outclassed and reacted badly but for Jaysus sake. If you think they lacked something, show them how it's done.
Hear, hear.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 05, 2009, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 04, 2009, 09:55:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 04, 2009, 09:48:57 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 04, 2009, 09:26:39 PM
nothing really to report. worst team i've ever seen trying to play hurling. shouldn't be allowed to play at that level ever again.
not drinking, honestly!
waiting till its all over
oh change the title of this thread, hurling is not what they play
This one is even worse!
Aw FFS I didn't even see that. Come on Milltown - you'd expect that from a gombeen in the crowd, not from a man in your position. That's an awful slight on the club, the men who slog to get hurling in that part of the world up and running and those who have been coaching the young lads at that club for years. Ok, they possibly were outclassed and reacted badly but for Jaysus sake. If you think they lacked something, show them how it's done.
Hear, hear.
we did, scoreline reflects that 6-16 to 1-6
so what your saying is that if a team is being outclassed then its ok to whack all round ya? yeah hmmmm i can see where your coming from ::)
Quote from: Minder on October 04, 2009, 10:39:19 PM
Anytime St Galls played us in Glenariffe, after the match, win lose or draw we would feed the St Galls boyos with the finest granary bread sandwiches and their choice of freshly squeezed orange juice or tea before we waved them off on their long journey back to the big smoke.
Obviously you would think this is reciprocated in Milltown Row? Alas, no. What we are met with is no warm water, a blocked bog and the worst word in their mouth.
Shame on St Galls.
that wasn't orange juice!! and your right the sandwiches are lovely in Glenariffe, sure when you were lying injured that time minder i came out and offered you one (sandwich ;D) but before a major operation ya can't have food ;D
Quote from: milltown row on October 05, 2009, 11:17:23 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 05, 2009, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 04, 2009, 09:55:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 04, 2009, 09:48:57 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 04, 2009, 09:26:39 PM
nothing really to report. worst team i've ever seen trying to play hurling. shouldn't be allowed to play at that level ever again.
not drinking, honestly!
waiting till its all over
oh change the title of this thread, hurling is not what they play
This one is even worse!
Aw FFS I didn't even see that. Come on Milltown - you'd expect that from a gombeen in the crowd, not from a man in your position. That's an awful slight on the club, the men who slog to get hurling in that part of the world up and running and those who have been coaching the young lads at that club for years. Ok, they possibly were outclassed and reacted badly but for Jaysus sake. If you think they lacked something, show them how it's done.
Hear, hear.
we did, scoreline reflects that 6-16 to 1-6
so what your saying is that if a team is being outclassed then its ok to whack all round ya? yeah hmmmm i can see where your coming from ::)
What I am saying is that regardless of whether you win or lose, you behave with a bit of dignity and class. Lisbellaw obviously weren't able to do that. Neither, it appears, are you.
More chance of showing a team "how it's done" when they can accept the difference in hurling standards in the proper manner rather than them trying to "beat" you in other ways. Like the semantics there ONeill..."reacted badly" :D
Total respect for those interested in developing the game but it sounds like Lisbellaw have no respect at all for the game. Quite how reacting badly on a hurling pitch will encourage others in Fermanagh to play it I'll never know?
Don't youse also have the U21 hurling championship to deal with as well milltown? A tough month ahead for some
Back to your changing facilities ...is there no chance of them being refurbed? There's bound to be some sort of funding that could help youse in that regard. They are a holy disgrace. I take it all your lads head home for the shower (after the sandwiches of course)
Big crowd at the game I suppose ? Would love to have been there- the county boys still don't like the city boys' accents apparently ? ;)
The stats show that there was one red card - the St Gall's captain, for heatbutting a wee lad who's still at school.
Get wired into them Dungannon - they don't like it up them!! Might go to it. This Intermediate campaign could be a memorable competition.
we've no money Skull, just because we have a bar doesn't make the punters come in and use it, and with me on a health drive they are seriously lacking the extra cash!!!
our club has like others have lost out since the peace process as punters choose to go to the town rather than 'stay close' fundraising has to be done. current climate has made everyone tighten their belts and trying to get money off people is difficult.
now throw in a senior football team who have been in the Ulster championship for the past 8/9 years and its a fair bit of expense (has you in Dunloy know)
Changing rooms have been better lately. there are still worse facilities out there, I'll not name them.
as for the red card, well two heads clashed, headbutt?? well i doubt it linesman was intimidated by the line
Quote from: milltown row on October 05, 2009, 11:48:40 AM
we've no money Skull, just because we have a bar doesn't make the punters come in and use it, and with me on a health drive they are seriously lacking the extra cash!!!
our club has like others have lost out since the peace process as punters choose to go to the town rather than 'stay close' fundraising has to be done. current climate has made everyone tighten their belts and trying to get money off people is difficult.
now throw in a senior football team who have been in the Ulster championship for the past 8/9 years and its a fair bit of expense (has you in Dunloy know)
Changing rooms have been better lately. there are still worse facilities out there, I'll not name them.
as for the red card, well two heads clashed, headbutt?? well i doubt it linesman was intimidated by the line
Heard it was clear cut. Nobody I've been talking to has attempted to defend it.
Each to his own I suppose.
Quote from: milltown row on October 04, 2009, 10:01:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 04, 2009, 09:47:13 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 04, 2009, 09:01:23 PM
Quote from: greeny on September 23, 2009, 01:00:04 PM
St Galls may indeed be favourites but im sure a number of the dual players will also have one eye on the football at the minute. I would expect Lisbellaw to give either team a tough time of it.
ya's did that by trying to brutalise us on the pitch, ya know hurling sticks are for hitting the ball?
a shower of dirty Bast*rds
scoreline 6-16 to 1-6 (we'd 14 men for 50 minutes!!)
Jaysus Milltown would you not show a wee bit of class in victory.
O'Neill save your tripe for someone else, you were'nt there. we are trying to play hurling. i reckon had they have tried to play hurling the game would have been a lot closer.
we as a club are trying to play in two competitions over the next few weeks with a lot of the same players. but you'd find that difficult to understand
you don't take a team to play in a premier competition and expect to be cut up like that.
This caused one of the very few LOL moments I've had on the board recently.
Good man MR.
thanks, i know you needed a laugh ;D
St Galls were the dirty team, all lisbellaw bookings were either badly timed challenges or unlucky, no lisbellaw player deserves tp be sent off.
May i also add that the filthy abuse that was being roared from some of the st galls fans was an absolute disgrace, especially from one very loumouth female supporter who had all the grace and manners of a pig!
Manners are easily carried!
It gets better....I can only but wish that I had been there !
Rarest of reports on Hoganstand:
Listless Lisbellaw Succumb to St Gall's
05 October 2009
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship - 2009
Quarter Final-2009
Lisbellaw St Patrick's, 1 gl. 6 pts; St Gall's, 6 gls. 16 pts.
At Brewster park, Enniskillen
In what that could only describe in sporting parlance as miss match between a recently relegated Division "1" St Galls' side and recently promoted Division "3" side Lisbellaw. This largely one sided tie saw the winners who had experience, skill and belief runaway with an Intermediate hurling Championship quarter win over their hapless hosts Lisbellaw.
Though it was the "host'" Lisbellaw who were first up to the scoring plate, when they popped over two pints from Rory Bogue and Declan McGarry. They St Patrick's side had also held the Antrim side to no less than three draws well before the games first quarter was over. However the games remaining three quarters were firmly under the grip of St Gall's of Belfast. The Antrim side following a mêlée early in the first were reduced to fourteen men. Many Lisbellaw supporters this was an opportunity for the St Patrick's lads top compete with the St Gall's on near level playing field. However the score at the games interval told it all.
Half time scores
Lisbellaw St Patrick's, 0 gl.5 pts; St Gall's, 2 gls. 16 pts.
More St Gall's Dominance
With the now cocky and very assured Belfast side retaking the pitch and the game by the scruff of it's the St Gall's side went on to add a further 4 goals 8 points and Lisbellaw adding a modest 1 goal 3 points it evident that that the Lisbellaw players, managers and supporters that the had come a division too far. Meanwhile Lisbellaw will reflect on their great victory in Ulster Division "3" final over Newry Shamrocks with a score of 3 goals 12 points to 2 goals 9 points for the south side. Other favourable news is that Lisbellaw are presently runners up in the Armagh Senior Hurling League just behind Keady.
Final Scores
Lisbellaw St Patrick's, 1 gl. 6 pts; St Gall's, 6 gls. 8 pts.
Teams, Lisbellaw St Patrick's, Peter McEvoy, J.P. McGarry, Fergus Bannon, David Slevin, Colum Rice, Mark Slevin, Mathew Teague, Brendan McGarry, Ryan Bogue ( 2 pts), John Duffy, Karl kehoe (1 gl. 2 pts.), Andrew Breslin, Sean Corrigan, Declan McGarry ( Capt.), Dermott Curran.
Subs, Dwyane McPhillip's, Paul McCarney, Cathal McGarry, Ciaran McTeague, Brian Jones, Eoin Markey, Rory Porteous & Stephen Brannigan.
Managers, Seamus McCusker, Sean Duffy & Gary Winterson.
St Gall's, Connor Austin, Stephen Morrison, Terry Austin, David Sheehan, Joseph McDaniel, Kieran McGourty ( 1 pt.), Anthony Healy, Johnny Flynn (Capt.), Ciaran O'Grady, Ciaran Gallagher, Alfie Hannaway, Sean McAreavey, Karl Stewart ( 3 gls. 2 pts.), Aodhan Gallagher & Connor McGourty.
Manager, Darren McKeown.
http://www.hoganstand.com/Fermanagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=118694
Quote from: ONeill on October 05, 2009, 06:09:27 PM
Rarest of reports on Hoganstand:
Listless Lisbellaw Succumb to St Gall's
05 October 2009
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship - 2009
Quarter Final-2009
Lisbellaw St Patrick's, 1 gl. 6 pts; St Gall's, 6 gls. 16 pts.
At Brewster park, Enniskillen
In what that could only describe in sporting parlance as miss match between a recently relegated Division "1" St Galls' side and recently promoted Division "3" side Lisbellaw. This largely one sided tie saw the winners who had experience, skill and belief runaway with an Intermediate hurling Championship quarter win over their hapless hosts Lisbellaw.
Though it was the "host'" Lisbellaw who were first up to the scoring plate, when they popped over two pints from Rory Bogue and Declan McGarry. They St Patrick's side had also held the Antrim side to no less than three draws well before the games first quarter was over. However the games remaining three quarters were firmly under the grip of St Gall's of Belfast. The Antrim side following a mêlée early in the first were reduced to fourteen men. Many Lisbellaw supporters this was an opportunity for the St Patrick's lads top compete with the St Gall's on near level playing field. However the score at the games interval told it all.
Half time scores
Lisbellaw St Patrick's, 0 gl.5 pts; St Gall's, 2 gls. 16 pts.
More St Gall's Dominance
With the now cocky and very assured Belfast side retaking the pitch and the game by the scruff of it's the St Gall's side went on to add a further 4 goals 8 points and Lisbellaw adding a modest 1 goal 3 points it evident that that the Lisbellaw players, managers and supporters that the had come a division too far. Meanwhile Lisbellaw will reflect on their great victory in Ulster Division "3" final over Newry Shamrocks with a score of 3 goals 12 points to 2 goals 9 points for the south side. Other favourable news is that Lisbellaw are presently runners up in the Armagh Senior Hurling League just behind Keady.
Final Scores
Lisbellaw St Patrick's, 1 gl. 6 pts; St Gall's, 6 gls. 8 pts.
Teams, Lisbellaw St Patrick's, Peter McEvoy, J.P. McGarry, Fergus Bannon, David Slevin, Colum Rice, Mark Slevin, Mathew Teague, Brendan McGarry, Ryan Bogue ( 2 pts), John Duffy, Karl kehoe (1 gl. 2 pts.), Andrew Breslin, Sean Corrigan, Declan McGarry ( Capt.), Dermott Curran.
Subs, Dwyane McPhillip's, Paul McCarney, Cathal McGarry, Ciaran McTeague, Brian Jones, Eoin Markey, Rory Porteous & Stephen Brannigan.
Managers, Seamus McCusker, Sean Duffy & Gary Winterson.
St Gall's, Connor Austin, Stephen Morrison, Terry Austin, David Sheehan, Joseph McDaniel, Kieran McGourty ( 1 pt.), Anthony Healy, Johnny Flynn (Capt.), Ciaran O'Grady, Ciaran Gallagher, Alfie Hannaway, Sean McAreavey, Karl Stewart ( 3 gls. 2 pts.), Aodhan Gallagher & Connor McGourty.
Manager, Darren McKeown.
http://www.hoganstand.com/Fermanagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=118694
surely a wind up by your good self ;D
clicked on that link!!! met that guy who does the write ups for Fermangh hurling, he came asking who did the scoring!!! reminded me off McGettining (spelt wrongly) who covered all the antrim games.
theres some complete eejit who puts reports on the hs site - this is one of his better attempts, which tells you all you need to know.
Clearly a basic knowlege of english, not to mention hurling/football, is not required
Though it was the "host'" Lisbellaw who were first up to the scoring plate, when they popped over two pints from Rory Bogue and Declan McGarry.
Now we know why M.R. has taken umbrage - glasses flying over the bar is a wee bit dangerous.
Remaining fixtures in SFL1
Sunday 11/10/10
Devenish - - St. Patricks
Tempo - - Derrygonnelly
Roslea - - St. Josephs
Enniskillen - - Belcoo
Teemore - - Newtownbutler
Sunday 18/11/10(This is just when i think they will happen)
Roslea - - Derrygonnelly
Tempo - - St. Josephs
Devenish - - Belcoo
St. Patricks - - Newtownbutler
Teemore - - Enniskillen
The top four pretty assured at this stage although Belcoo could still gatecrash it for Tempo or Devenish.
The bottom 4 seem to be battling it our for relegation.
Have no clue who will go down.
Its not impossible that Enniskillen, St Josephs and St Pat's might not win another game this year.
One win for either of this 3 teams could make all the difference.
Newtown vs St Pat's could well be a pivotal game yet.
I'd say the same boy would find those easy enough to swallow.
he's off it.....according to himself, until they lift the AI IHC in Feb/Mar next year.
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: ONeill on October 05, 2009, 06:09:27 PM
Teams, Lisbellaw St Patrick's, Peter McEvoy, J.P. McGarry, Fergus Bannon, David Slevin, Colum Rice, Mark Slevin, Mathew Teague, Brendan McGarry, Ryan Bogue ( 2 pts), John Duffy, Karl kehoe (1 gl. 2 pts.), Andrew Breslin, Sean Corrigan, Declan McGarry ( Capt.), Dermott Curran.
Subs, Dwyane McPhillip's, Paul McCarney, Cathal McGarry, Ciaran McTeague, Brian Jones, Eoin Markey, Rory Porteous & Stephen Brannigan.
Is there is some Loughgiel connection with these lads?
Quote from: ONeill on October 05, 2009, 06:09:27 PM
Rarest of reports on Hoganstand:
Listless Lisbellaw Succumb to St Gall's
05 October 2009
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship - 2009
Quarter Final-2009
Lisbellaw St Patrick's, 1 gl. 6 pts; St Gall's, 6 gls. 16 pts.
At Brewster park, Enniskillen
In what that could only describe in sporting parlance as miss match between a recently relegated Division "1" St Galls' side and recently promoted Division "3" side Lisbellaw. This largely one sided tie saw the winners who had experience, skill and belief runaway with an Intermediate hurling Championship quarter win over their hapless hosts Lisbellaw.
Though it was the "host'" Lisbellaw who were first up to the scoring plate, when they popped over two pints from Rory Bogue and Declan McGarry. They St Patrick's side had also held the Antrim side to no less than three draws well before the games first quarter was over. However the games remaining three quarters were firmly under the grip of St Gall's of Belfast. The Antrim side following a mêlée early in the first were reduced to fourteen men. Many Lisbellaw supporters this was an opportunity for the St Patrick's lads top compete with the St Gall's on near level playing field. However the score at the games interval told it all.
Half time scores
Lisbellaw St Patrick's, 0 gl.5 pts; St Gall's, 2 gls. 16 pts.
More St Gall's Dominance
With the now cocky and very assured Belfast side retaking the pitch and the game by the scruff of it's the St Gall's side went on to add a further 4 goals 8 points and Lisbellaw adding a modest 1 goal 3 points it evident that that the Lisbellaw players, managers and supporters that the had come a division too far. Meanwhile Lisbellaw will reflect on their great victory in Ulster Division "3" final over Newry Shamrocks with a score of 3 goals 12 points to 2 goals 9 points for the south side. Other favourable news is that Lisbellaw are presently runners up in the Armagh Senior Hurling League just behind Keady.
Final Scores
Lisbellaw St Patrick's, 1 gl. 6 pts; St Gall's, 6 gls. 8 pts.
Teams, Lisbellaw St Patrick's, Peter McEvoy, J.P. McGarry, Fergus Bannon, David Slevin, Colum Rice, Mark Slevin, Mathew Teague, Brendan McGarry, Ryan Bogue ( 2 pts), John Duffy, Karl kehoe (1 gl. 2 pts.), Andrew Breslin, Sean Corrigan, Declan McGarry ( Capt.), Dermott Curran.
Subs, Dwyane McPhillip's, Paul McCarney, Cathal McGarry, Ciaran McTeague, Brian Jones, Eoin Markey, Rory Porteous & Stephen Brannigan.
Managers, Seamus McCusker, Sean Duffy & Gary Winterson.
St Gall's, Connor Austin, Stephen Morrison, Terry Austin, David Sheehan, Joseph McDaniel, Kieran McGourty ( 1 pt.), Anthony Healy, Johnny Flynn (Capt.), Ciaran O'Grady, Ciaran Gallagher, Alfie Hannaway, Sean McAreavey, Karl Stewart ( 3 gls. 2 pts.), Aodhan Gallagher & Connor McGourty.
Manager, Darren McKeown.
http://www.hoganstand.com/Fermanagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=118694
That's the best bit of counting I've ever seen.
Top of the article 6-16 to 1-6
Adding second half scores to half time totals 6-24 to 1-8
End of the article 6-8 to 1-6.
I reckon FermGael is doing a bit of moonlighting as a reporter.
Oh,and by the way, one of those St. Gall's defenders goes by the moniker "Chainsaw".
Everything's not as clear cut as milltown row would have us believe.
That's the best match report I've seen in while! Who was the referee MR?
Oh,and by the way, one of those St. Gall's defenders goes by the moniker "Chainsaw".
seriously sam!!!!! none of the st galls defenders are called that and i know all of them so done know were you are getting that. and as for lisbellaw what can you say...............leave it at that and for st galls man being send off he got a fairly good crack across the knee before the incident if you could call it that it was more like a kiss but still, you can't do it. and as for people saying he was only a school kid if he is big enough to be running about giving it out he is big enough to take it. There was a awful lot of pulling across the arms, hands and elbows of the galls players an awful lot thats where lisbellaw were getting there yellow cards from. i also noticed a few lisbellaw boys won't shake hands at the end of the game...sportsmanship....however most did.
Ref was from Ballycran
Quote from: Signum Fidei on October 06, 2009, 10:39:11 AM
Oh,and by the way, one of those St. Gall's defenders goes by the moniker "Chainsaw".
seriously sam!!!!! none of the st galls defenders are called that and i know all of them so done know were you are getting that.
It would appear that you don't know them as well as you think you do. I only know four of them and one of them is most definitely 'affectionately' known as "Chainsaw".
You appear to being going "out of your way" on this one sam. Care to put your beef with stgalls in perspective?
Quote from: theskull1 on October 06, 2009, 11:13:08 AM
You appear to being going "out of your way" on this one sam. Care to put your beef with stgalls in perspective?
Yes, a quick glance at my posts will help you. If you still have any difficulties, let me know.
Ta.
Could you not just tell me? I'm trying to surf the net as efficiently as possible
Regards
Quote from: theskull1 on October 06, 2009, 11:28:19 AM
Could you not just tell me? I'm trying to surf the net as efficiently as possible
Regards
I am just highlighting the hypocrisy and lack of class being displayed on this thread by milltown row.
Like I have said, win and lose with the same dignity and class - Kipling puts it better.
If you read other threads, you will see I am consistent about this. To save you having to search, here is another example.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 05, 2009, 02:58:01 PM
Quote from: an-lub-2-i-die on October 05, 2009, 02:13:32 PM
tfal you tipify everyone in bellaghy..arrogant c**nts..nd for what? unes won a weena oul championships back when no1 give two sh1ts..thats why this victory is so sweet...as 4 big rocko..wat a man he is..leaves the loup to go and win medals...next time u c him round bellaghy tell him he missed out on another johnny mac and thats why he cant be considered in the same class as paul mc flynn n johnny mc bride...because these men have REAL championships..
Total lack of class in that post. You do your club no favour.
Assuming of course you're not a WUM. It would be equally crass even if you were.
Obviously, no beef with St. Gall's. Hope this helps.
Quote from: Signum Fidei on October 06, 2009, 10:39:11 AM
Ref was from Ballycran
Must have been Hugh Torney as I can't see Cathal 'Freeflow' O'Flynn being given an Ulster game. On second thoughts that's a bit harsh on Cathal as he's a damn sight better than some of those eejits who get to officiate.
It was hugh just forgot his name, as for 'chainsaw' sam i know all the defenders very well (as i was a past player) and not one is called chainsaw by fellow players management etc know one is called by that moniker in the club unless other people from other clubs call him this. still i don't know how you come to this, any clues as to who this is then.
Quote from: Signum Fidei on October 06, 2009, 12:36:12 PM
It was hugh just forgot his name, as for 'chainsaw' sam i know all the defenders very well (as i was a past player) and not one is called chainsaw by fellow players management etc know one is called by that moniker in the club unless other people from other clubs call him this. still i don't know how you come to this, any clues as to who this is then.
Who is the one you know?
The one I know has six brothers.
It was hugh just forgot his name, as for 'chainsaw' sam i know all the defenders very well (as i was a past player) and not one is called chainsaw by fellow players management etc know one is called by that moniker in the club unless other people from other clubs call him this. still i don't know how you come to this, any clues as to who this is then.
sorry that was meant to be i know NO one is called that .
Well Sam If you are saying that Davey Sheehan (the seventh Brother) is called 'chainsaw' your are incorrect. like all the sheehans in st galls over the last 99 odd years, they have all been called 'sheeko'/'Sheehy' (or by there first name!!!). Certainly have not heard anyone call Davey that before i would be very surprised that you have heard him called by that name.
If you did hear someones nickname as 'Chainsaw' i think that it would make you come to think that, that fella would be a hacker on the hurling field and David is far from that. A quiet gentleman of/on the pitch who gives his all for the club both hurling and football wise, like most of the sheehans.
MR.........?????
Quote from: Signum Fidei on October 06, 2009, 01:54:22 PM
It was hugh just forgot his name, as for 'chainsaw' sam i know all the defenders very well (as i was a past player) and not one is called chainsaw by fellow players management etc know one is called by that moniker in the club unless other people from other clubs call him this. still i don't know how you come to this, any clues as to who this is then.
sorry that was meant to be i know NO one is called that .
Well Sam If you are saying that Davey Sheehan (the seventh Brother) is called 'chainsaw' your are incorrect. like all the sheehans in st galls over the last 99 odd years, they have all been called 'sheeko'/'Sheehy' (or by there first name!!!). Certainly have not heard anyone call Davey that before i would be very surprised that you have heard him called by that name.
If you did hear someones nickname as 'Chainsaw' i think that it would make you come to think that, that fella would be a hacker on the hurling field and David is far from that. A quiet gentleman of/on the pitch who gives his all for the club both hurling and football wise, like most of the sheehans.
Surprised you would subject a club mate to such public exposure. I was careful not to name him, you should have followed suit. Probably better to edit that post.
Thanks for your charcter references, but they are irrelevant.
I think he was christened chainsaw during his Mageean days with La Salle (under the tutelage of a club mate of yours). butterknife told me. Ask him. Or chainsaw. You might learn something.
Sam you are full of shite, no one in the club is called 'Chainsaw' ya twat
over your jammy dodgers and tea, this butterknife guy is laughing his head off at tell you this tripe and watching you put it on here.
Saffron Sam king of the WUM
Quote from: milltown row on October 06, 2009, 02:34:55 PM
Sam you are full of shite, no one in the club is called 'Chainsaw' ya t**t
over your jammy dodgers and tea, this butterknife guy is laughing his head off at tell you this tripe and watching you put it on here.
Saffron Sam king of the WUM
You are welcome to join us for tea and jammie dodgers any time. There you will hear exploits of young chainsaw's daring-do when he was under the charge of butterknife. The young man in question will always be fondly remembered as chainsaw. Ask him. Or my tea supping mate.
i am sure David would have no problem of me putting his name in public because like i said no one calls him that so why would it affect him in anyway (plus it isn't rocket science to work out your clue how many galls men do you know who have six bros). And as for the mageen cup days that your butterknife friend tells you i have heard of this story to, and if i am not mistake it was actually in fifth year when it happened because my younger cousin was on the same team. it wouldn't happen to be the same game where it was a full on brawl 40 players knocking lumps out of each other and 3/4 coaches trying to stop it, it took about 15 Min's to stop it. i know this because it was my cousin (from a rival club) that David actually helped i would hope any player would do the same for me if 3 players from the other team where knocking the sh*t out of me.
but to get back to the point no one called him that at la salle (according to my cousin) and no one calls him that at the club. so catch yourself Sam who is showing the lack of class now.....
Quote from: Signum Fidei on October 06, 2009, 03:08:33 PM
i am sure David would have no problem of me putting his name in public because like i said no one calls him that so why would it affect him in anyway (plus it isn't rocket science to work out your clue how many galls men do you know who have six bros). And as for the mageen cup days that your butterknife friend tells you i have heard of this story to, and if i am not mistake it was actually in fifth year when it happened because my younger cousin was on the same team. it wouldn't happen to be the same game where it was a full on brawl 40 players knocking lumps out of each other and 3/4 coaches trying to stop it, it took about 15 Min's to stop it. i know this because it was my cousin (from a rival club) that David actually helped i would hope any player would do the same for me if 3 players from the other team where knocking the sh*t out of me.
but to get back to the point no one called him that at la salle (according to my cousin) and no one calls him that at the club. so catch yourself Sam who is showing the lack of class now.....
I'm trying to get the jist of your post. It's not easy.
Quote from: Signum Fidei on October 06, 2009, 03:08:33 PM
(plus it isn't rocket science to work out your clue how many galls men do you know who have six bros).
I know of at least seven Gall's men with six brothers.
Quote from: Signum Fidei on October 06, 2009, 03:08:33 PM
And as for the mageen cup days that your butterknife friend tells you i have heard of this story to
Do tell us more, but the name does not result from one single incident.
Quote from: Signum Fidei on October 06, 2009, 03:08:33 PM
and if i am not mistake
Not sure if you're (a) mistake or not, ask your parents. They are better placed to judge.
Quote from: Signum Fidei on October 06, 2009, 03:08:33 PM
it was actually in fifth year when it happened because my younger cousin was on the same team. it wouldn't happen to be the same game where it was a full on brawl 40 players knocking lumps out of each other and 3/4 coaches trying to stop it, it took about 15 Min's to stop it. i know this because it was my cousin (from a rival club) that David actually helped i would hope any player would do the same for me if 3 players from the other team where knocking the sh*t out of me.
Seriously have no idea what you're talking about. Who was your younger cousin? Chances are butterknife knows him. I have never heard of a game involving La Salle that descended into such a brawl. Your young cousin wouldn't be an embellisher, would he.
Quote from: Signum Fidei on October 06, 2009, 03:08:33 PM
but to get back to the point no one called him that at la salle (according to my cousin) and no one calls him that at the club. so catch yourself Sam who is showing the lack of class now.....
And your cousin knows what everyone is called in La Salle. If you are so confident, ask any of your club mates with La Salle connections. ONeill told butterknife who told me. Your faceless, nameless cousin is not a suitable source to back up your claims.
No lack of class from me here. I have already explained via PM to milltown row, exactly who chainsaw is. You are the one wholly lacking in class by introducing a real name and by inventing a cousin. You'll have to do an awful lot better than that. I am simply (and justifiably) questioning milltown row's class after some of his posts on this thread.
Saffron we've all had a pop at someone on this board. i had a rant after the match on Sunday job done.
while it's over and I've moved on. there are others including your good self that have had a good go at people.
before questioning my class have a look at your previous posts and examine your class
I know of at least seven Gall's men with six brothers.
really!!!! seven galls men very good, however i bet only one of them were playing on sunday
Oh,and by the way, one of those St. Gall's defenders goes by the moniker "Chainsaw".
The one I know has six brothers.
Not sure if you're (a) mistake or not, ask your parents. They are better placed to judge.
;D ;D very good......lol i am a fool for not reading over the post lol
Seriously have no idea what you're talking about. Who was your younger cousin? Chances are butterknife knows him. I have never heard of a game involving La Salle that descended into such a brawl. Your young cousin wouldn't be an embellisher, would he.
Go ask butterknife who my cousin is, it may take him a while...he knows. my cousin tells me you haven't been having the jammy dodgers and tea to long if you can't remember the keady game !!!!!!!
And your cousin knows what everyone is called in La Salle.
he does know what all the players are called on his school team..... yeah does that sound weird????
Anyway, what about the main issues here:
a) Was Milltown knocked on his hole by a Fermanagh man?
b) Did Lisbellaw knock seven shades of shite out of St Gall's?
c) Is headbutting in hurling common practice?
d) Who's going to Armagh to watch Dungannon have the next skelp at the city boys?
e) Will Milltown apologise to the county of Fermanagh?
Quote from: milltown row on October 06, 2009, 04:19:47 PM
Saffron we've all had a pop at someone on this board. i had a rant after the match on Sunday job done.
while it's over and I've moved on. there are others including your good self that have had a good go at people.
before questioning my class have a look at your previous posts and examine your class
one hears from 'steak knife' that SS is always 'examining' his 'class' - with poor results annually !
;)
a) Was Milltown knocked on his hole by a Fermanagh man? no
b) Did Lisbellaw knock seven shades of shite out of St Gall's? yes
c) Is headbutting in hurling common practice? only in tyrone
d) Who's going to Armagh to watch Dungannon have the next skelp at the city boys? yes i'll be there
e) Will Milltown apologise to the county of Fermanagh? never never never
The omens aren't good from 6 months ago -
Ulster Club Senior Hurling League Div 2A
Eoghan Ruadh (Tyrone) 0-9 4-8 St Galls (Antrim) Dungannon
There's only one way to bate these Milltown men.
According to Wiki
Quote2001 Census
Lisbellaw is classified as a village by the NI Statistics and Research Agency (NISRA) (i.e. with population between 1,000 and 2,250 people). On Census day (29 April 2001) there were 1,046 people living in Lisbellaw. Of these:
24.0% were aged under 16 years and 16.7% were aged 60 and over
48.7% of the population were male and 51.3% were female
7.3% were from a Catholic background and 91.9% were from a Protestant background
5.7% of people aged 16–74 were unemployed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisbellaw
Do the majority prodestant population contribute many players to the Lisbellaw team ?
Quote from: dodo on October 07, 2009, 02:40:09 AM
According to Wiki
Quote2001 Census
Lisbellaw is classified as a village by the NI Statistics and Research Agency (NISRA) (i.e. with population between 1,000 and 2,250 people). On Census day (29 April 2001) there were 1,046 people living in Lisbellaw. Of these:
24.0% were aged under 16 years and 16.7% were aged 60 and over
48.7% of the population were male and 51.3% were female
7.3% were from a Catholic background and 91.9% were from a Protestant background
5.7% of people aged 16–74 were unemployed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisbellaw
Do the majority prodestant population contribute many players to the Lisbellaw team ?
NONE
QuoteThe omens aren't good from 6 months ago -
Ulster Club Senior Hurling League Div 2A
Eoghan Ruadh (Tyrone) 0-9 4-8 St Galls (Antrim) Dungannon
There's only one way to bate these Milltown men.
I wouldn't read much into that result, probably alot of players missing on both teams. I know Dungannon were in disarray for most of the early part of this season, I heard they had alot of players missing and there was rumours of fallouts within the club. That seems to have changed as of late as they seem to have most players back on board, although Paul Lavery is a notable absentee.
Quote from: hardstation on October 07, 2009, 01:02:12 AM
Will they be missing their head-butting captain?
Dungannon had their full back (who was actually playing full forward), Brian McGilloway sent off for fighting against Carrickmore.
They will bate the stick into the soft boys from the Row. Cathal McErlain to do the damage (2-10).
I'm 100% behind 'Lisnahull-on-tour'.
Tommy Colton to chin milltown row - 1/7.
No one minds a good tough game, it's the dirty late and high pulling which sometimes passes as 'hard hurling' that gets on my tits.
We had the good fortune of playing Dungannon a few years back in a club semi final when a local hero pulled a mile low on a dropping ball breaking the arm of our full back. The same hoor took to his heels when a bit of summary justice was coming his way.
If you want to be the hard man you'd need to be prepared to take your medicine the odd time as well.
Quote from: milltown row on October 06, 2009, 05:28:45 PM
a) Was Milltown knocked on his hole by a Fermanagh man? no
where was he from then !! :D
also - Tom Colton cant still be playing ?
Hes 41 or 42 now isnt he?
Having a keen interest in Hurling within Fermanagh I was pleased to see Gaelic Life Journalist Declan Bogue togged out for Lisballaw last sunday. Its great that a man like that, who has travelled far and wide, and has been involved with GAA clubs all over the world is back giving his all for his respective hurling and football clubs. I also noticed he was stroking the ball around with consumate ease at the interval, if he bulks up a bit, im sure he could make his mark on the lisbellaw team. ;)
How long is the head-butter suspended for?
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 06, 2009, 02:42:24 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 06, 2009, 02:34:55 PM
Sam you are full of shite, no one in the club is called 'Chainsaw' ya t**t
over your jammy dodgers and tea, this butterknife guy is laughing his head off at tell you this tripe and watching you put it on here.
Saffron Sam king of the WUM
You are welcome to join us for tea and jammie dodgers any time. There you will hear exploits of young chainsaw's daring-do when he was under the charge of butterknife. The young man in question will always be fondly remembered as chainsaw. Ask him. Or my tea supping mate.
Halt. This is the police. It's "derring do". What do you teach?
A double header on Sunday would have been nice as I'd like to have seen the Middletown match too.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 07, 2009, 11:19:06 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 06, 2009, 02:42:24 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 06, 2009, 02:34:55 PM
Sam you are full of shite, no one in the club is called 'Chainsaw' ya t**t
over your jammy dodgers and tea, this butterknife guy is laughing his head off at tell you this tripe and watching you put it on here.
Saffron Sam king of the WUM
You are welcome to join us for tea and jammie dodgers any time. There you will hear exploits of young chainsaw's daring-do when he was under the charge of butterknife. The young man in question will always be fondly remembered as chainsaw. Ask him. Or my tea supping mate.
Halt. This is the police. It's "derring do". What do you teach?
QuoteAppranetly it is possible to purchase a £10 pixel.
English?
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 07, 2009, 11:19:06 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 06, 2009, 02:42:24 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 06, 2009, 02:34:55 PM
Sam you are full of shite, no one in the club is called 'Chainsaw' ya t**t
over your jammy dodgers and tea, this butterknife guy is laughing his head off at tell you this tripe and watching you put it on here.
Saffron Sam king of the WUM
You are welcome to join us for tea and jammie dodgers any time. There you will hear exploits of young chainsaw's daring-do when he was under the charge of butterknife. The young man in question will always be fondly remembered as chainsaw. Ask him. Or my tea supping mate.
Halt. This is the police. It's "derring do". What do you teach?
A quick google for
derring do will find roughly 2% of the hits that a search for
daring do does. Or did when I checked. Whilst derring do may have been the original version, the de facto standard is now daring do.
Sums.
Quote from: Minder on October 08, 2009, 08:27:00 AM
QuoteAppranetly it is possible to purchase a £10 pixel.
English?
Nope, that's ONeill. Still sums and some prayers.
But enough of the pair of you trying to let milltown row off the hook with your irrelevant asides. Do you think headbutting is ok?
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 08, 2009, 03:03:24 PM
Do you think headbutting is ok?
all fighting is not ok.
All actions of fighting are much the same imo.
Punches, kicks, kicks to the nether regions, stamping, headbutting
have been the victim of or guilty of - all of the above..
a simple punch can be more deadly or damage causing than a headbutt
"have been guilty of - all of the above.."
He's not the messiah, he's just a very naughty boy.
one of the worst done to me was by a wee boy who was not doing too well in marking me - hammering them , winning eventually 18-12 - 1-0 in a hurling match.
As I was about to puck the ball in an attempt to score a point, the wee hoor just pulled across me erse.
A loud smack and one very sore buttock made me forget the shot and chase the wee fuka around the field benny hill style until he eventually took refuge behind the ref.
Still contemplated smacking him - not so much for the pain but for the embarrasment as both teams were laughing away at this!
jeez that was sore!
Quote from: hardstation on October 07, 2009, 10:53:10 PM
Quote from: Signum Fidei on October 06, 2009, 04:22:31 PM
And your cousin knows what everyone is called in La Salle.
he does know what all the players are called on his school team..... yeah does that sound weird????
Maybe your cousin (if he exists) has just forgotten that he was and is known as Chainsaw.
I am hearing that the St. Gall's lads are concerned that Milltown will throw the next game so that he can go back on the liquor. I hope it isn't true. It'd make a mockery of this premier competition.
Hardstation I'm starting to be worried with your fixation with me. i thought we were friends >:(
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 08, 2009, 03:50:16 PM
one of the worst done to me was by a wee boy who was not doing too well in marking me - hammering them , winning eventually 18-12 - 1-0 in a hurling match.
As I was about to puck the ball in an attempt to score a point, the wee hoor just pulled across me erse.
A loud smack and one very sore buttock made me forget the shot and chase the wee fuka around the field benny hill style until he eventually took refuge behind the ref.
Still contemplated smacking him - not so much for the pain but for the embarrasment as both teams were laughing away at this!
jeez that was sore!
:D
In all seriousness the ref should have held him while you hit him a good dig or two
Quote from: theskull1 on October 08, 2009, 04:44:09 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 08, 2009, 03:50:16 PM
one of the worst done to me was by a wee boy who was not doing too well in marking me - hammering them , winning eventually 18-12 - 1-0 in a hurling match.
As I was about to puck the ball in an attempt to score a point, the wee hoor just pulled across me erse.
A loud smack and one very sore buttock made me forget the shot and chase the wee fuka around the field benny hill style until he eventually took refuge behind the ref.
Still contemplated smacking him - not so much for the pain but for the embarrasment as both teams were laughing away at this!
jeez that was sore!
:D
In all seriousness the ref should have held him while you hit him a good dig or two
& then immediately red carded him for striking lol.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 08, 2009, 03:03:24 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 07, 2009, 11:19:06 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 06, 2009, 02:42:24 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 06, 2009, 02:34:55 PM
Sam you are full of shite, no one in the club is called 'Chainsaw' ya t**t
over your jammy dodgers and tea, this butterknife guy is laughing his head off at tell you this tripe and watching you put it on here.
Saffron Sam king of the WUM
You are welcome to join us for tea and jammie dodgers any time. There you will hear exploits of young chainsaw's daring-do when he was under the charge of butterknife. The young man in question will always be fondly remembered as chainsaw. Ask him. Or my tea supping mate.
Halt. This is the police. It's "derring do". What do you teach?
A quick google for derring do will find roughly 2% of the hits that a search for daring do does. Or did when I checked. Whilst derring do may have been the original version, the de facto standard is now daring do.
Sums.
Quote from: Minder on October 08, 2009, 08:27:00 AM
QuoteAppranetly it is possible to purchase a £10 pixel.
English?
Nope, that's ONeill. Still sums and some prayers.
But enough of the pair of you trying to let milltown row off the hook with your irrelevant asides. Do you think headbutting is ok?
I find Milltown's attitude towards fellow gaels more than the physical violence which blights his team. I've heard that on one of his journeys from his house in the 'burbs (supplied through ticketing by members of the very same Association whose members he belittles) he deliberately sped his flash car through a puddle and splashed some pensioners and "working class types" (his words) waiting for a hack. Disgraceful.
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on October 08, 2009, 08:31:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 08, 2009, 04:44:09 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 08, 2009, 03:50:16 PM
one of the worst done to me was by a wee boy who was not doing too well in marking me - hammering them , winning eventually 18-12 - 1-0 in a hurling match.
As I was about to puck the ball in an attempt to score a point, the wee hoor just pulled across me erse.
A loud smack and one very sore buttock made me forget the shot and chase the wee fuka around the field benny hill style until he eventually took refuge behind the ref.
Still contemplated smacking him - not so much for the pain but for the embarrasment as both teams were laughing away at this!
jeez that was sore!
:D
In all seriousness the ref should have held him while you hit him a good dig or two
& then immediately red carded him for striking lol.
the ref told me while he was guarding/shielding the wee fcuka that if I touched the buxtard I'd get sent off....I did think about it for a moment though !
....AND the ref didnt even bleddy well book him !
miltown - I'm on your side.
No word a lie, I heard that Dungannon are chomping at the bit to get wired into these Belfast men. They played their reserves in a warm-up game this week and apparently it was carnage. I'd say their support will stand for no lip too.
lads your flogging a dead horse here. quit move on. i've never known non hurlers on the board waffle so much.
our game with Dungannon will not be going ahead due to the death of a players father and club offical.
i send me deepest regards to his family at this terible time.
Milltown - is that at Dungannon or in your club? Is the U-21 HC match still on tomorrow afternoon?
Dungannon
If Tempo beat Derrygonnelly this week (which may not be implausible given it is the first game after Derryg winning the Championship) and secure a top 4 spot they may not be incentiviesed to put there full effort in against St Josephs next week...which could see the Gaels in trouble.
Caid Derrygonnelly played last week and beat Devenish so its not there first game after winning the championship.Derrygonnelly are still not safe and 2 wins might even mean they could make the top 4.
Deceased Report (http://www.irishnews.com/irishnews/540/5860/2009/10/10/629719_396546017962Masondies.html)
RIP
Very sorry to hear this. Had heard plenty of this man over the years.
Is he a father of the lads that play?
RIP
Enniskillen 0-08 Belcoo 1-11
Gaels in serious trouble now of going down.
Ederney showing a real fight. They beat Roslea today and Devenish beat St Pat's by two.
Division 1 Results
Devenish 2-8 0-12 St. Patricks
Tempo 1-14 0-13 Derrygonnelly
Roslea 1-8 0-12 St. Josephs
Enniskillen 0-8 1-11 Belcoo
Ah Jaysus, just got my hands on the Andersonstown News this week. Milltown still complaining...'they roughed us up....they kicked us....they stopping playing hurling.....we didn't expect....'
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on October 11, 2009, 01:55:17 AM
Is he a father of the lads that play?
RIP
Yes:
Two of Mr McErlean's sons, Peter and Cathal McErlean, have played hurling for Tyrone. His daughter Caroline has also played football at senior level for her county.
move it to another thread O'Neill.
RIP
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 11, 2009, 08:25:08 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on October 11, 2009, 01:55:17 AM
Is he a father of the lads that play?
RIP
Yes:
Two of Mr McErlean's sons, Peter and Cathal McErlean, have played hurling for Tyrone. His daughter Caroline has also played football at senior level for her county.
Yep, I remember one of those lads playing a good few years ago in the Rackhard Cup v Sligo.
SFL 1
Teemore 0-8 3-10 Newtownbutler
SFL 2 Final
Erne Gaels 1-6 0-9 Lisnaskea
SFL 1 Table
Team P W L D P+ P- P+/- Pts
Teemore 17 8 4 5 211 198 13 21
Roslea 17 9 5 3 220 212 8 21
Devenish 17 9 6 2 224 180 44 20
Tempo 17 9 6 2 226 224 2 20
Belcoo 17 6 5 6 222 194 28 18
Newtownbutler 17 7 8 2 225 209 16 16
Derrygonnelly 17 7 9 1 203 216 -13 15
St. Josephs 17 6 9 2 174 219 -45 14
Enniskillen 17 5 9 3 212 246 -34 13
St. Patricks 17 4 9 4 199 218 -19 12
Last round of fixtures
Tempo v St. Joseph's
Devenish v Belcoo
St. Patricks v Newtownbutler
Teemore v Enniskillen
Roslea v Derrygonnelly
Quote from: FermGael on October 09, 2009, 05:48:53 PM
Caid Derrygonnelly played last week and beat Devenish so its not there first game after winning the championship.Derrygonnelly are still not safe and 2 wins might even mean they could make the top 4.
Sorry - I was being stupid. Of course they played last week. Point still stands though. Of the bottom 3 teams the Gaels have the hardest last game. It'll be a bit strange if St. Pats and the Gaels go down..
Very tight looking at the bottom and indeed top!!
Don't think the Gaels have necessarily the hardest game of the bottom 3. Ederney have to travel to Tempo who most likely will still need a win to qualify for the semi's. Donagh have home advantage against Newtown and the local rivarly will be a big factor here, although Newtown have nothing to play for in terms of places I'm sure they would love to beat Donagh. The Gaels travel to Teemore who already have qualified for the semi's but I'm sure they won't be doing the Gaels any favours!!
Think that Ederney and Donagh have a bit more bite about them than the Gaels appear to have at the moment but it's very close to call!!
I wonder what they story is on points difference??
Could be important in terms of top 4 and relegation.
If Enniskillen are to stay up, then they have to beat Teemore and hope Tempo beat St Josephs's or Roslea beat Derrygonnelly.
St Pat's need to beat Newtown and that the Gaels and St Josephs's both get beat. That would leave them in a playoff with St Josephs's.
Derrygonnelly have to win and they are safe. If they get beat and Enniskillen and St Josephs's win, they will be in a playoff with the Gaels.
Tempo and Devenish need to win to guarantee the playoffs.If they lose, and Belcoo win, a playoff could follow.
Again scoring difference could be crucial. If scoring difference is counted, then things are simpler.
Tempo and Devenish are in the top 4.
Derrygonnelly are safe and its between St Pat's, Enniskillen and St Josephs's to stay up with St Josephs's looking like having an easier game.
Here the NFL 3 fixtures for Fermanagh.
Again we have 4 away games and 3 home games for the third year in a row i believe.
07.02.010 (Sun)
Offaly v Fermanagh
13.02.2010 (Sat)
Fermanagh v Roscommon
06.03.2010 (Sat)
Antrim v Fermanagh
14.03.2010 (Sun)
Fermanagh v Louth
21.03.2010 (Sun)
Wexford v Fermanagh
28.03.2010 (Sun)
Fermanagh v Sligo
11.04.09 (Sun)
Cavan v Fermanagh
away to Cavan and Antrim is not too bad for travel reasons, Wexford & Offaly are a tad irritating
Division 3 next year isn't going to be easy and could produce some decent games
Quote from: Caid on October 12, 2009, 02:45:33 PM
Division 3 next year isn't going to be easy and could produce some decent games
Yeah, it'll be a very competitive division with all teams capable of beating one another. Although we did well at this level two years ago so hopefully the same will happen next year.
Quote from: sammymaguire on October 12, 2009, 01:48:08 PM
away to Cavan and Antrim is not too bad for travel reasons, Wexford & Offaly are a tad irritating
Sammy, they are the ideal fixtures for a weekend away! It'll be a toss up between Offaly or Wexford. I haven't a clue which town would be best for a night out though. I didn't travel to Wexford last April as we were already relegated and I think it was Easter Sunday as well.
a weekend in Offaly ??? good luck to ya :-\
Quote from: FermPundit on October 12, 2009, 07:10:28 PM
Quote from: Caid on October 12, 2009, 02:45:33 PM
Division 3 next year isn't going to be easy and could produce some decent games
Yeah, it'll be a very competitive division with all teams capable of beating one another. Although we did well at this level two years ago so hopefully the same will happen next year.
Quote from: sammymaguire on October 12, 2009, 01:48:08 PM
away to Cavan and Antrim is not too bad for travel reasons, Wexford & Offaly are a tad irritating
Sammy, they are the ideal fixtures for a weekend away! It'll be a toss up between Offaly or Wexford. I haven't a clue which town would be best for a night out though. I didn't travel to Wexford last April as we were already relegated and I think it was Easter Sunday as well.
Tullamore must have dozens of pubs given it's held the Fleadh the last few years. I'd say you wouldn't go wrong there
just about pubs is it? dunno what a 6 year old boy would make of a pub crawl in Tullamore... :o
only messing I'm sure there could be loads to do for the family but I reckon Wexford would have more to offer than Biffo-land
When is St Galls playing against Dungannon? I hope Dungannon take them to the cleaners after the lack of manners the galls fans showed in Brewster park. :(
Next Tuesday I believe. Not much time for the Gallsmen to drown their sorrows after this Sunday's game.
Hard to get overly excited about that list of fixtures at this stage but should make a good few of them. Any word of county trials or new faces? Presume Rory will have to get a call anyhow.
Will probably be after this weekend and the league is almost sorted.
I imagine there will be a few sore and bruised bodies next Tuesday night for Galls when Cavan Gaels are finished with them!!
any truth in the rumour about lyttle transfering to donagh
Quote from: FermGael on October 15, 2009, 11:30:36 PM
any truth in the rumour about lyttle transfering to donagh
news to me, he needs something to kickstart his career, been pretty drab since 2004
Quote from: ExiledGael on October 13, 2009, 07:56:09 PM
Hard to get overly excited about that list of fixtures at this stage but should make a good few of them. Any word of county trials or new faces? Presume Rory will have to get a call anyhow.
Will probably be after this weekend and the league is almost sorted.
County trials were held on Wednesday night. Not sure who all attended. I know a good few Roslea lads were there though.
I would expect Paul Ward to get on the panel this year. From what I hear he was very unlucky in the trials last year. Obviously Quigley should be on. Not sure about Rory 3.09. O'Rourke obviously didn't fancy him last year and I'm not sure what would have changed. I don't think he was omitted on the basis of ability.
I think what has changed, 118, is that he is playing very well for Galls - I expect them to win the Ulster club, and Rorys profile is going to rise again. Last year, there was a risk that the balance on the squad could be upset, without any great addition - rory hadnt been showing much this past while - this year, its much harder to pass him by.
Tempo lost to St Joes by 4 points
Enniskillen v Derrygonnelly in a relegation playoff
Semi finals to be played next Sunday:
Tempo v Roslea (at Roslea?)
Devenish v Teemore
Dromore were jammy in Tyrone I understand
was the Roslea/D'gonnelly game abandoned on Sunday? due to a major fracas!
Quote from: greeny on October 15, 2009, 10:17:57 AM
I imagine there will be a few sore and bruised bodies next Tuesday night for Galls when Cavan Gaels are finished with them!!
Certainly appears to be the case with Conor McGourty (broken finger), Sean Burke (sore leg) and Ciaran Joseph (CJ) McGourty (too tired) all extremely doubtful for tonight's big game. I am amazed that the St. Gall's football management didn't rest a few of the top 'hurlers' when it became clear that Cavan Gaels had totally lost the discipline.
Anyhow, regardless of the injuries, anything other than a similar scoreline to the Lisbellaw match will be seen as a massive surprise in 'hurling' circles. It's amazing that a team with two Railway Cup players and another senior inter-county star are playing Intermediate 'hurling' - surely as clear a statement as any as to how seriously the game is taken in Milltown.
Whilst the result is a foregone conclusion, there are many sub plots that make this an intriguing affair. How many men will St. Gall's tog out for the warm up? How many will change back into their civvies straight after the warm-up? Who will chainsaw chop down and hospitalise (surely not Anto Healy again)? Was the headbutt a one-off or is such a red mist going to return among the Gallsmen? Will the opposing managers behave?
Get there if you can.
St. Gall's by 22.
Dungannon have a Raliway Cup player of their own, and sure they have loads of Senior Intercounty stars themselves :D
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 20, 2009, 10:58:27 AM
Quote from: greeny on October 15, 2009, 10:17:57 AM
I imagine there will be a few sore and bruised bodies next Tuesday night for Galls when Cavan Gaels are finished with them!!
Certainly appears to be the case with Conor McGourty (broken finger), Sean Burke (sore leg) and Ciaran Joseph (CJ) McGourty (too tired) all extremely doubtful for tonight's big game. I am amazed that the St. Gall's football management didn't rest a few of the top 'hurlers' when it became clear that Cavan Gaels had totally lost the discipline.
Anyhow, regardless of the injuries, anything other than a similar scoreline to the Lisbellaw match will be seen as a massive surprise in 'hurling' circles. It's amazing that a team with two Railway Cup players and another senior inter-county star are playing Intermediate 'hurling' - surely as clear a statement as any as to how seriously the game is taken in Milltown.
Whilst the result is a foregone conclusion, there are many sub plots that make this an intriguing affair. How many men will St. Gall's tog out for the warm up? How many will change back into their civvies straight after the warm-up? Who will chainsaw chop down and hospitalise (surely not Anto Healy again)? Was the headbutt a one-off or is such a red mist going to return among the Gallsmen? Will the opposing managers behave?
Get there if you can.
St. Gall's by 22.
I'm glad your taking an interest, should be a tight encounter, I'll take a one point win. Dungannon are a better team than Lisbellaw. and beat Carrickmore by two points in their county final. Carrickmore drew with Gorts last year (well gorts won by 2 but was put down as a draw) Gorts already beaten us this year so 22 points is way off the mark.
i doubt that you'd get out of the closet tonight to watch the game, you being a burn the hurl gay i mean guy then I'm glad we've turned you from a failed footballer to a hurling enthusiast
Quote from: milltown row on October 20, 2009, 12:34:28 PM
i doubt that you'd get out of the closet tonight to watch the game, you being a burn the hurl gay i mean guy then I'm glad we've turned you from a failed footballer to a hurling enthusiast
The gay jokes are incredibly original and humourous - I would only hear them about 20 times a day, admittedly mostly from 12 year olds.
Interestingly I was playing senior hurling for my club long before you were playing for yours. But the pressure of being a failure in two sports was too much. So coupled with the fact that my club (like yours) was basically a football only outfit (with a few token 'hurling' zealots) I decided to hang up the hurl. A decision that I never regretted and one that should be seriously considered by all 'hurlers' in Antrim.
Good luck this evening by the way.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 20, 2009, 02:04:12 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 20, 2009, 12:34:28 PM
i doubt that you'd get out of the closet tonight to watch the game, you being a burn the hurl gay i mean guy then I'm glad we've turned you from a failed footballer to a hurling enthusiast
The gay jokes are incredibly original and humourous - I would only hear them about 20 times a day, admittedly mostly from 12 year olds.
Interestingly I was playing senior hurling for my club long before you were playing for yours. But the pressure of being a failure in two sports was too much. So coupled with the fact that my club (like yours) was basically a football only outfit (with a few token 'hurling' zealots) I decided to hang up the hurl. A decision that I never regretted and one that should be seriously considered by all 'hurlers' in Antrim.
Good luck this evening by the way.
I find it considerably amusing that anyone would attempt to label you 'gay' given your antics of a number of years ago !!
Unless you were out to dispell any accusations by doing so....
def more of a puff daddy than a puff daniel !
Was talking to a couple of Fermanagh ones who had wandered into the Athletic Grounds on Sunday. One of them said that St Galls had too many players kitted out before the Lisbellaw match and had to tell them to get changed back. Also said that the St Galls' manager was hiding a piece of paper with what appeared to be the names of the eventual panel on it from the assistant manager and kept putting it up his back when he tried to look at it.
Quote from: drici on October 20, 2009, 02:30:19 PM
Was talking to a couple of Fermanagh ones who had wandered into the Athletic Grounds on Sunday. One of them said that St Galls had too many players kitted out before the Lisbellaw match and had to tell them to get changed back. Also said that the St Galls' manager was hiding a piece of paper with what appeared to be the names of the eventual panel on it from the assistant manager and kept putting it up his back when he tried to look at it.
the match programme would have had all the players named on the panel which was widely available before the game.
Crossmaglen had 30 odd players warming up at the Marshes two years ago before the Ulster final. its not uncommon to have 30 in a panel. unfortunaetly the Ulster council think this is a great idea (to have only 24)
as for the couple of fermanagh ones they must have been the only two that were at Brewster park that day so they get about.
Sammy, as for the gay jokes they are nearly as humourous as yours. wouldn't say Michael Davitt's, Swatragh is a football club either or hurling for that matter
An interesting, if irrelevant aside. I'm told that tonight's referee is a member of Michael Davitt's, Swatragh, but you probably knew that anyway, hence the reference.
Small world as they say.
Eamon is a excellent referee, has done a few games already and did the line against us v Loughgiel last year
Quote from: milltown row on October 20, 2009, 03:41:58 PM
Eamon is a excellent referee, has done a few games already and did the line against us v Loughgiel last year
These things have a habit of coming back to bite you, you do know that. Probably better saving your praise until after the game.
Quote from: sammymaguire on October 20, 2009, 09:56:56 AM
was the Roslea/D'gonnelly game abandoned on Sunday? due to a major fracas!
There was certainly a major rumble, always going to happen as Roslea were not happy at what went on in the county final, but the ref did let the game finish. He would have had every right to call it off with all but one player boxing at one stage and a few spectators jumping over the fences to get into it also.
He was probably under a certain pressure to get the final round of games completed as semis and relegation play-off are this weekend.
As for the Mark Little rumour, it has been doing the rounds lately but don't know how true it is or how their relegation might affect things.
cheers fella,not scenes anyone wants
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 20, 2009, 10:58:27 AM
Quote from: greeny on October 15, 2009, 10:17:57 AM
I imagine there will be a few sore and bruised bodies next Tuesday night for Galls when Cavan Gaels are finished with them!!
Certainly appears to be the case with Conor McGourty (broken finger), Sean Burke (sore leg) and Ciaran Joseph (CJ) McGourty (too tired) all extremely doubtful for tonight's big game. I am amazed that the St. Gall's football management didn't rest a few of the top 'hurlers' when it became clear that Cavan Gaels had totally lost the discipline.
Anyhow, regardless of the injuries, anything other than a similar scoreline to the Lisbellaw match will be seen as a massive surprise in 'hurling' circles. It's amazing that a team with two Railway Cup players and another senior inter-county star are playing Intermediate 'hurling' - surely as clear a statement as any as to how seriously the game is taken in Milltown.
Whilst the result is a foregone conclusion, there are many sub plots that make this an intriguing affair. How many men will St. Gall's tog out for the warm up? How many will change back into their civvies straight after the warm-up? Who will chainsaw chop down and hospitalise (surely not Anto Healy again)? Was the headbutt a one-off or is such a red mist going to return among the Gallsmen? Will the opposing managers behave?
Get there if you can.
St. Gall's by 22.
Not bad.
1-5 to 1-5 at half time was a bit embarrassing though.
Quote from: ONeill on October 20, 2009, 11:15:37 PM
1-5 to 1-5 at half time was a bit embarrassing though.
The wee man obviously went in and threw a few wine bottles around the changing rooms. Dungannon were brutal in the second half. Would like to think Middletown will give them a match but smart money would still be on the men from the Row.
Strong rumours that Milltown actually took off 1-2 of the footballers tonight.
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2009, 12:24:55 AM
Manager or puppet - you decide.
To be fair to him it was a beaten docket early in the second half so lets say he was preserving his players for the final rather than bowing to pressure.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 20, 2009, 11:13:39 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 20, 2009, 10:58:27 AM
St. Gall's by 22.
Not bad.
It would appear this failed footballer knows more than some would think.
In all seriousness, St. Gall's are streets ahead of any of the teams in this competition. Anything other than massive 20+ point victories and you would have to ask questions.
I think the Ulster council should borrow and amend an idea from the camogs.
The Antrim senior champions (this year Dunloy) automatically qualify for All-Ireland senior series.
Senior champions from Derry and Down plus Antrim intermediate champions play in Ulster intermediate competition.
Senior champions from Armagh, Tyrone and possibly Fermanagh, Intermediate champions from Derry and Down plus Antrim junior champions play in Ulster Junior A competition.
Other senior champions plus junior champions in Down play in Ulster junior B.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 21, 2009, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 20, 2009, 11:13:39 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 20, 2009, 10:58:27 AM
St. Gall's by 22.
Not bad.
It would appear this failed footballer knows more than some would think.
The Antrim senior champions (this year Dunloy) automatically qualify for All-Ireland senior series.
As if its not bad enough that the Antrim club champions get home advantage every year, you want them straight into the AI series.
Arsehole.
Quote from: johnneycool on October 21, 2009, 01:25:09 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 21, 2009, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 20, 2009, 11:13:39 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 20, 2009, 10:58:27 AM
St. Gall's by 22.
Not bad.
It would appear this failed footballer knows more than some would think.
The Antrim senior champions (this year Dunloy) automatically qualify for All-Ireland senior series.
As if its not bad enough that the Antrim club champions get home advantage every year, you want them straight into the AI series.
Arsehole.
It would appear that my proposal for the Antrim champions has pretty much been the case since the inception of the competition anyway.
But you keep living the lie and hurling abuse if that helps.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 21, 2009, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 21, 2009, 01:25:09 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 21, 2009, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 20, 2009, 11:13:39 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 20, 2009, 10:58:27 AM
St. Gall's by 22.
Not bad.
It would appear this failed footballer knows more than some would think.
The Antrim senior champions (this year Dunloy) automatically qualify for All-Ireland senior series.
As if its not bad enough that the Antrim club champions get home advantage every year, you want them straight into the AI series.
Arsehole.
It would appear that my proposal for the Antrim champions has pretty much been the case since the inception of the competition anyway.
But you keep living the lie and hurling abuse if that helps.
Well going by your own logic, is there any point in Antrim pushing themselves forward for the Liam McCarthy or indeed for the AI senior club series as since its inception they've only managed to get a winner once and that was when the final was played in Casement?
Quote from: johnneycool on October 21, 2009, 02:33:49 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 21, 2009, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 21, 2009, 01:25:09 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 21, 2009, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 20, 2009, 11:13:39 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 20, 2009, 10:58:27 AM
St. Gall's by 22.
Not bad.
It would appear this failed footballer knows more than some would think.
The Antrim senior champions (this year Dunloy) automatically qualify for All-Ireland senior series.
As if its not bad enough that the Antrim club champions get home advantage every year, you want them straight into the AI series.
Arsehole.
It would appear that my proposal for the Antrim champions has pretty much been the case since the inception of the competition anyway.
But you keep living the lie and hurling abuse if that helps.
Well going by your own logic, is there any point in Antrim pushing themselves forward for the Liam McCarthy or indeed for the AI senior club series as since its inception they've only managed to get a winner once and that was when the final was played in Casement?
No at the minute there is no point in Antrim entering the Liam McCarthy Cup; they are too far behind the leading teams. The whole AI hurling championship should be restructured as well IMHO but that's another debate for another day.
In fairness, with the exception of Rossa recently, Antrim teams normally do compete fairly well in the AI club series; Rossa and Dunloy have both made finals. How many Down clubs have made that step up?
Interestingly you choose to leave out the fact that Loughgiel won the AI club after a replay. Was the first game also played in Casement?
I'd have expected an Antrim man to know that the Loughgiel AI victory was a replay against St Rynaghs. Do you also know what their winning margin was in the Ulster final that year?
The last time a Down club got to the AI-semi final they were beaten by Newtownshandrum by a whole two points.
My point being is that club wise the Ulster championship has been fairly competitive just as you point out the the Ulster representatives are fairly competitive when it comes to the AI series, and if the Ulster council were to do the thing a bit fairer then maybe, just maybe the Down and Derry teams would get a fairer crack of the whip.
Its not the cake walk you make it out to be.
Quote from: johnneycool on October 21, 2009, 03:45:21 PM
I'd have expected an Antrim man to know that the Loughgiel AI victory was a replay against St Rynaghs. Do you also know what their winning margin was in the Ulster final that year?
The last time a Down club got to the AI-semi final they were beaten by Newtownshandrum by a whole two points.
My point being is that club wise the Ulster championship has been fairly competitive just as you point out the the Ulster representatives are fairly competitive when it comes to the AI series, and if the Ulster council were to do the thing a bit fairer then maybe, just maybe the Down and Derry teams would get a fairer crack of the whip.
Its not the cake walk you make it out to be.
Wouldn't want him.
No match report by the Galls bainisteoir from last night?
we were crap first half and Dungannon were good value for being level.
we had a great first ten minutes of the second half, we scored 3 goals and 4 points.
7 players that played against Cavan Gaels are fcuked, real tired and hopefully they should be recovered for Sunday.
still without suspended and injured players for that game, but hopefully we can get a result, i hope ya's are all down in Newry this Sunday. such is the interest ::)
I need to be in Casement myself, but wish St. Gall's all the very best in Newry. Give it a lash boys for Antrims sake.
Quote from: milltown row on October 21, 2009, 08:44:45 PM
we were crap first half and Dungannon were good value for being level.
we had a great first ten minutes of the second half, we scored 3 goals and 4 points.
7 players that played against Cavan Gaels are fcuked, real tired and hopefully they should be recovered for Sunday.
still without suspended and injured players for that game, but hopefully we can get a result, i hope ya's are all down in Newry this Sunday. such is the interest ::)
I'll be there. Was there for the second half last night. They hardly struck a ball from what I saw. If your lads shake off the tiredness youse will be too much for Middletown I'd say.
I like the way the moderator changed the posts above to take out much of johnneycool's over the top reaction, but left in his use of the word 'arsehole'.
Is the mod trying to tell us something?
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 22, 2009, 02:36:32 PM
I like the way the moderator changed the posts above to take out much of johnneycool's over the top reaction, but left in his use of the word 'arsehole'.
Is the mod trying to tell us something?
Didn't even realise that he/she did that and granted I may have been a tad over the top but sometimes its hard to read such condescending pooh from someone with nothing more than a passing interest in hurling but excels at the slurry agitation.
Cavan it is then, not bad for starters but it'll certainly not be easy. We'll be under no illusions after last year anyway. Semi-final game if we win will be tough but we've reason for optimism against any of Monaghan/Derry/Armagh.
Is the relegation play-off tonight? Can anyone keep us updated? Massive game.
I should hopefully get the odd text update. I'll try to stick them up as I receive them
Enniskillen Gaels 0-2
Derrygonnelly Harps 0-1
14 minutes gone
Enniskillen Gaels 0-4
Derrygonnelly Harps 0-3
Am Leath
Gaels 6
Harps 4
8 mins gone in second half
0-7
1-4
15 minutes gone
Gaels 0-9
Harps 1-6
5 mins to go
Squeaky bum time
Gaels 0-10
Harps 1-08
FULL TIME
Enniskillen's fall from grace is now complete.
Interesting to see who will still be lining out for the Gaels next year (Keenans? Clucker? Bradley? McCarron?) when they are on a tour of rural Fermanagh
For Fermanagh's sake hopefully Clucker doesn't ditch the Gaelic altogether for the Soccer
ft
ennislillen 0-10
derrydonnelly 1-8
enniskillen relegated
Shocking stuff.
There needs to be a serious look at what the GAA are doing in the county when a town of that size can't even produce one decent team.
Quote from: ceol agus peil on October 23, 2009, 09:28:16 PM
ft
ennislillen 0-10
derrydonnelly 1-8
enniskillen relegated
Very disappointing, I hear the referee was terrible, but that's no real excuse. We've been poor all year. I suppose the rebuilding starts now.
I've been to about a doxen games this year in league and Championship and haven't seen one desent refereeing display so that doesn't surprise me.
The Gaels were never going to get a neutral ref this evening, but they should never have been in this position in the first place. I suspect that there will be several retirements now. As Caid said, Clucker was apparently terrific tonight, a player of his quality should not be playing in Division 2.
when are the league semi's being played?
League semi's are tomorrow Roslea v Tempo in Roslea and Devenish v Teemore think in Devenish
inishceithleann, dry your eyes, the ref on friday did his best for the gaels, they got 33 frees, a lot of them in scoreable positions and the harps got 15.How many frees did mc carron miss in the first half alone, It must have been embarrassing for you to see clucker buying frees all night, a player of his standard reduced to that, as for the floodlight fiasco, how childish was that, it was a good job no one got hurt in the dark or the gaels would have been facing an even bigger bill than the one Dom gave them. They have diced with relegation for the last 5/6 years now and didn't address the problem and paid the price, they will benefit from relegation in the long run. I hope the real gaa fans get behind the harps now in ulster and wish them good luck against the loup.
SFL 1 Semi finals
Devenish 1-9 1-6 Teemore
Roslea 1-9 1-6 Tempo
Quote from: johnneycool on October 22, 2009, 03:20:09 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 22, 2009, 02:36:32 PM
I like the way the moderator changed the posts above to take out much of johnneycool's over the top reaction, but left in his use of the word 'arsehole'.
Is the mod trying to tell us something?
Didn't even realise that he/she did that and granted I may have been a tad over the top but sometimes its hard to read such condescending pooh from someone with nothing more than a passing interest in hurling but excels at the slurry agitation.
And him a man of uncertain provenance too!
Quote from: hardstation on October 25, 2009, 04:26:19 PM
He does it. He has led his team to glory in a premier competition!
All hail Milltown Row! Milltown Row for Antrim!!!
Dr. John is poised to make a shock announcement tomorrow that Milltown Row will be taking charge of the Antrim seniors with support in the backroom from Dinny Cahill. They have a 3 year plan to get MR off the drink.
Well done, I suppose. Overshadowed by the other premier competition result though, the junior.
when is the League Final pencilled in for? an upcoming Sunday at Brewster?? or Saturday under lights again?
League final SunNov 8th 2.30pm BrewsterPark.
cheers Kiddo, hopefully Roslea can cap off a fine season with some well overdue silverware 8)
Ulster Junior Championship
Belnaleck 1-4 1-14 Molville
Ulster Intermediate Championship
Kinawley 0-13 0-15 Lavey
The league final will take place on Sat night next, Nov7th at Brewster Park at 6.30pm
Quote from: FermPundit on November 01, 2009, 05:07:31 PM
Ulster Junior Championship
Belnaleck 1-4 1-14 Molville
Ulster Intermediate Championship
Kinawley 0-13 0-15 Lavey
Hard luck to Kinawley. Sounds like they put up a decent showing
Disappointing to relate that the success seems to have been celebrated with a bit of dabbing down Milltown Row (note capital letters to remove any ambiguity), although the pugilism by all accounts was marginally less skilled than the 'hurling' earleir in the day.
Involved in what? never heard about a fight that night.
what happened?
Quote from: milltown row on November 02, 2009, 09:49:44 PM
Involved in what? never heard about a fight that night.
what happened?
I heard someone was trying to give a high profile hurling mentor a bit of manners, but he is unlikely to try that again.
Must have happened after you left, off to plot the downfall of the Tribesmen no doubt. Good luck with that by the way.
That is disappointing to hear, discipline does not end when the final whistle goes. A reflection on management some would say, I would not be one of them.
It comes as no surprise to me to hear of the lack of discipline from St Galls. The lack of basic manners from their supporters in Brewster park was nothing short of a disgrace!!
The only thing Gall cud hurl is abuse!
Quote from: greeny on November 03, 2009, 04:06:18 PM
It comes as no surprise to me to hear of the lack of discipline from St Galls. The lack of basic manners from their supporters in Brewster park was nothing short of a disgrace!!
The only thing Gall cud hurl is abuse!
::) ::)
I was reading on another thread about how a player once got himself sent off deliberately in London so he could catch a flight home to play a championship match in Tyrone. This got me thinking about the red card (I know, another one) dished out to a St. Gall's player in the Ulster Intermediate 'hurling' final. Here was a guy who had been taken off injured against Cavan Gaels. His 'hurling' manager has a reputation for not taking off his footballers even if (as in this case) the opposition team is being iniolated. So did the balding Lothario cunningly decide to conserve his energies for the football? Or was it more indiscipline from the milltown men?
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 06, 2009, 02:49:22 PM
I was reading on another thread about how a player once got himself sent off deliberately in London so he could catch a flight home to play a championship match in Tyrone. This got me thinking about the red card (I know, another one) dished out to a St. Gall's player in the Ulster Intermediate 'hurling' final. Here was a guy who had been taken off injured against Cavan Gaels. His 'hurling' manager has a reputation for not taking off his footballers even if (as in this case) the opposition team is being iniolated. So did the balding Lothario cunningly decide to conserve his energies for the football? Or was it more indiscipline from the milltown men?
He seemed fine when he went back on again ;)
besides thon player lashed out on our CHB referee turned and only seen two lads scrapping. easy to give two yellows and be done with it.
hurling is slightly different than football. in ten minutes of hurling a team could score 10/15 points. in football it takes teams 60 minutes to score that amount
Anyone know anything of the Fermanagh squad for the McKenna Cup? Hoganstand has a story about Aidan McCarron (ex-Tyrone and New York) being included so must be drawn up after the trials. Rumour has it Little is not included.
Lyttle not included because he is not playing for Lisnaskea. That's the rumour.
Other rumours include Eamonn Maguire and Paul Cosgrove have not made themselves available,
and that McDermott and McBarron have retired.
But then again who knows!!!
Hmmm, on the plus side Blobby is now working at home for good so that should help him this year. Think you can hopefully change your message FermGael with him on left and Seamie Quigley on the right for frees.
Quote from: ExiledGael on November 06, 2009, 05:50:53 PM
Hmmm, on the plus side Blobby is now working at home for good so that should help him this year. Think you can hopefully change your message FermGael with him on left and Seamie Quigley on the right for frees.
Rumour mill also has Rory Gallagher back in the McKenna squad as well.
According to the Hearld A McCarron has been asked in.
As for the message, we will wait and see :D
The rumour mill has definitely gone into hyperdrive concerning the make up of the panel.
Someone was telling me that St Pats have pulled their players out of the panel this year in protest against the starred games system that was employed in the league this year. No idea if this is true or not though.
I hear that Cunningham ex of Maguiresbridge now of St Brigids is in the McKenna cup panel too.
Quote from: Jimmyjimson on November 06, 2009, 10:06:57 PM
The rumour mill has definitely gone into hyperdrive concerning the make up of the panel.
Someone was telling me that St Pats have pulled their players out of the panel this year in protest against the starred games system that was employed in the league this year. No idea if this is true or not though.
I hear that Cunningham ex of Maguiresbridge now of St Brigids is in the McKenna cup panel too.
I had heard that about St Pat's as well. Think its very childish it that's what they are at. They were only 2 starred games.
Edenery played there last 4 or 5 games without McGrath and Ferris due to injury, yet managed to stay up.
We need to have more starred games next year to ensure that the club footballer is well catered for.
Also the league started far too late last year, start it a bit earlier this year.
Cunningham is a good footballer and could do a job.
What does 'starred games' mean lads? Hadn't heard this, and don't really follow
Is it Niall Cunningham?
Roslea defeated Devenish tonight in Fermanagh division 1 final tonight in Enniskillen by 3 points after extra time, 2.14 to 3.8.
Quote from: wanderer on November 07, 2009, 05:10:43 PM
What does 'starred games' mean lads? Hadn't heard this, and don't really follow
Is it Niall Cunningham?
Starred games were the games in which county players could not play.
Niall Cunningham was playing good stuff for St. Brigid's this year. He would be a good addition to the Fermanagh panel in my opinion.
Quote from: KIDDO 4 on November 07, 2009, 10:32:10 PM
Roslea defeated Devenish tonight in Fermanagh division 1 final tonight in Enniskillen by 3 points after extra time, 2.14 to 3.8.
well done to Roslea. Good finish to a very good season
STANDING TALL; Rory Gallagher says it was a desire to excel that led to his difficult reputation and a move from Fermanagh
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Six weeks ago, a story appeared in the Donegal Democrat newspaper under the headline 'Gallagher for Donegal?' The article reported that former Fermanagh and Cavan footballer, Rory Gallagher, was believed to be on his way to play with Killybegs next season and that he was considering declaring for Donegal. Gallagher immediately got in touch with the newspaper to point out that there was absolutely no substance to the article and the matter was clarified in the following edition.
But Gallagher's nomadic track-record at club level has fostered and promoted his reputation as a maverick. In the last seven years, he has played with three different clubs in three different counties. He recently moved back to his home town of Belleek in Fermanagh and has been making the near fivehour round trip to Belfast for training with St Gall's, Antrim, football's club superpower. His travels have often led to accusations of disloyalty and glory-hunting but he counters them by stating that he plays where his work takes him.
"At different stages, I lived in Dublin, Galway, Limerick and Cavan," he says. "At the start of the year I was working and living in Belfast and that's why I moved clubs. I didn't expect to be back in Killybegs until after Christmas but it happened a lot quicker than I expected."
Now that he's recently married, is back home and living so far from Belfast, speculation is sure to accompany Gallagher's future. It's never really been any other way since 2002 when he created his own enigma. That summer, he recorded the highest individual score in an Ulster championship match with 3-9 against Monaghan — just one point behind the highest individual score ever recorded. He'd been top scorer in the Ulster championship for three successive years and was nominated for an All-Star in two of those seasons. He was only 24 and nearing his peak. And then he walked away.
It appeared to be for greener pastures. He joined St Brigid's in Dublin, where he took up a coaching development position, but Gallagher was one of the best free-takers in the country and he seemed to offer the perfect antidote to a virus which had consistently infected Dublin. Gallagher may have been speculating a move but Dublin manager Tommy Lyons knocked that on the head as soon as it arose: "It will be a long time before Dublin accept recognised inter-county footballers into our county to try to help us win an All-Ireland."
Gallagher was one of the most talented footballers Fermanagh had ever produced but his decision to walk away in 2003 effectively marked the beginning of the end of his inter-county career. When Charlie Mulgrew took over in 2004, he did not recall Gallagher and that decision was never questioned after Fermanagh reached their first All-Ireland semi-final. Rory, and his first cousin, Raymie Gallagher, had long been the exciting face of Fermanagh football but the county had created a new identity in 2004 and appeared to have moved on without them.
Both were recalled in 2005 and Rory impressed in that year's league campaign. He was by far their best forward in the Division Two league semi-final against Meath when hitting six points. It was Fermanagh's last competitive game before the championship but Gallagher never started a game for the county again.
The obvious assumption about why he was dropped in 2005 was that, outside Liam McBarron and Stephen Maguire up front, everything about Fermanagh in 2004 was built for speed and not Gallagher's cerebral style. "Opinion was divided on us whenever we (himself and Raymie) were playing," he says. "There's no doubt he (Mulgrew) may have been influenced by others. But that should not count between a player and a manager. I didn't think it would be even up for discussion that I wouldn't be on the team because I was playing really well. I never received an explanation why I wasn't picked so it's hard for me not to believe that it wasn't something personal."
The Gallaghers have always stimulated huge debate in Fermanagh, but there is no doubting the massive contribution they made to the county's fortunes.
When Fermanagh began to transform themselves in the late 1990s, the Gallaghers brought class and arrogance to the team that Fermanagh football hadn't seen before. But many within the county still never forgave Rory for turning his back on them in 2003.
It could be argued, almost perversely, that Gallagher was ahead of his time, which contributed to his departure. He won a Sigerson Cup medal with Sligo IT under Martin McHugh in 2002 and McHugh claimed that Gallagher "was an exceptional player and an exceptionally hard trainer who always demanded the highest standards".
When those standards weren't met in Fermanagh, he walked.
"Things might have been going well for me personally but I still wasn't happy with our approach and our preparation," he says. "I knew that I would miss playing county football but my decision was based on the direction I felt we were going.
"Right before we played a league game against Mayo in 2002, we were close to going on strike over mileage expenses. And that was long before strikes were fashionable.
"Some people said that I was too hard to handle. Others said, 'he wants it all his own way, he's a dictator'. I would have felt at the time that Fermanagh weren't doing everything they could to be successful and I would have been trying to push it in that direction. I wouldn't be shy in being confrontational with regard to that.
"Maybe at times I did overstep the mark and I could have been more diplomatic in the way I went to managers or the county board about trying to improve things. But I just wanted what was best for us."
Mulgrew never called him back after 2005 and Gallagher was so desperate to play intercounty football again that he transferred to Crosserlough in Cavan in 2007, where he was then living. He played the league with Cavan but broke a bone in his hand a week before the championship and his summer was limited to a late substitute appearance in the qualifier defeat to Mayo. A week later, he had returned to Dublin.
"I had made it clear that if I was no longer playing with Cavan that I was going back to St Brigid's."
After Malachy O'Rourke took over Fermanagh at the end of that season, there was speculation that Gallagher might be asked back but he never was. If he was on board in 2008, he may have been the difference between them winning a first Ulster title because their freetaking ultimately cost them. Gallagher did attend a trial game last year and was reportedly outstanding. But again, O'Rourke didn't pick him.
After Fermanagh were beaten in last year's championship, Gallagher discreetly canvassed for another opportunity. In his column in the 'Gaelic Life' magazine, he broached Fermanagh's free-taking difficulties and said that "you have to want to take a free". It was clear that he would have been comfortable taking frees for the county and Fermanagh finally seem to have realised his importance. He was in for a trial game recently and is expected to rejoin the panel soon.
Gallagher has missed the best years of his inter-county career but he only recently turned 31 and still has something to offer. It might be easy for some supporters to hammer him for disloyalty but they shouldn't ever forget the immense service he has given to Fermanagh.
At least now Gallagher has the stage to showcase his talents with St Gall's, one of the favourites for the Ulster club championship. He's aiming to become the first football player ever to win provincial medals with different clubs (apart from colleges' teams) in different provinces.
Say what you want about Gallagher but he always was that bit unique. ''
I've definitely mellowed as regards Rory over the last few years. There was certainly a time (2004-ish) when I never wanted to see him playing for the county again, but he seems to be really focusing on the fooball of late and got a good injury free run and refound some of his best form.
He probably deserves his chance this year and would certainly help the younger players in the squad. I don't believe that O'Rourke will have any alterior motives and the truth is if Gallagher deserves to be in the panel then he'll get his chance.
Well done to Roslea at the weekend. Not a top quality game but definitely a thriller. Those O'Brien brothers look good and Quigley must have hit 7/8 for Roslea, mostly frees.
I know Rory Gallagher isn't everyone's cup of tea but there has never been any doubting his talent. Maybe at 31 he realises that he hasn't got too many years left to play at the top level and he has wised up a wee bit. Can we assume that he'll be back playing with Belleek net season?
Fair play to Roslea. They have made great strides over the last year and they deserve a bit of silverware. Peter McGinnity also deserves great credit for turning things around. It's amazing what a good, respected manager can do.
Exiled, what age are the O'Brien brothers? They're probably far too young to even consider for inter county football?
Quote from: FermPundit on November 09, 2009, 08:42:52 PM
It's amazing what a good, respected manager can do.
Is your own club's (ex) Manager not a good, respected, manager FP :P
Quote from: Caid on November 09, 2009, 08:45:20 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on November 09, 2009, 08:42:52 PM
It's amazing what a good, respected manager can do.
Is your own club's (ex) Manager not a good, respected, manager FP :P
A matter of opinion, Caid!
Quote from: FermPundit on November 09, 2009, 08:42:52 PM
Exiled, what age are the O'Brien brothers? They're probably far too young to even consider for inter county football?
I don't think any of them are over 20. Certainly not the younger two who look the real talents, Joe and Chris I think. For a while on Sunday there were three of them in the Devenish full-forward line. Remember them playing McRory last year or two. They are all very small though, but in time they should make the county squad.
Has a McKenna Cup squad been released?
Quote from: ExiledGael on November 09, 2009, 09:03:59 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on November 09, 2009, 08:42:52 PM
Exiled, what age are the O'Brien brothers? They're probably far too young to even consider for inter county football?
I don't think any of them are over 20. Certainly not the younger two who look the real talents, Joe and Chris I think. For a while on Sunday there were three of them in the Devenish full-forward line. Remember them playing McRory last year or two. They are all very small though, but in time they should make the county squad.
Has a McKenna Cup squad been released?
Not that I know of. I don't even know if a date has been set for the squad to be announced. Maybe Caid knows?
2-3 for Rory today playing for St Gall's against Clontibret in Ulster semi, he's in some form.
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Fermanagh manager Malachy O'Rourke has confirmed that two time All Star full back Barry Owens has suffered a second cruciate knee ligament injury with the Teemore Shamrocks man set to undergo an operation this week.
Owens is believed to have sustained the injury playing for his club towards the end of their league campaign and the news is a massive blow for both the player and O'Rourke.
Owens has been beset with injuries over the past couple of years. He went through heart surgery in January 2008 and had just fought his way back to fitness when he was hit by a cruciate knee ligament injury during the Ulster Final replay defeat to Armagh in July 2008.
"Barry has done his cruciate again and it is the same knee as the last time," confirmed O'Rourke. "He has just gone through a long period of rehabilitation after his last injury and he was looking forward to getting a good winter of training behind him and get ready for the National League. Barry has worked really hard to get back playing so this is a big set back for him but in fairness to Barry, he wants the operation as quick as possible and thankfully he will be going for it this week."
O'Rourke continued: "That is more or less two years that Barry has lost through injury and he has had enough set backs so hopefully after this he will get a good run away from injury.
"Unfortunately, he knows only too well the routine that lies ahead now at this stage but hopefully if all goes well around May time he will be ready to go again."
Owens won the first of his All Stars following Fermanagh's wonderful run to the 2004 All Ireland semi-final producing some awesome displays as the side went within a whisker of reaching the All Ireland final.
And his performances were again recognised in 2006 as he was once more named at full back on the Vodafone All Star side.
However, the player has seen very little action since O'Rourke took over the manager's job in 2008. Heart surgery ruled him out of the league that year although his return was the stuff of fairytales as within minutes of coming on as a substitute against Derry he punched home what proved to be the winning goal in the Ulster semi-final.
He then came on in the drawn replay as Fermanagh clawed their way back to secure a second bite of the cherry against Armagh, but after being again called from the bench in the second game, he sustained his first cruciate injury.
The player showed great determination to fight back from this, and came on as substitute in the defeat to Cavan in the Ulster Championship last year before making his first start in a Fermanagh jersey since the qualifier defeat to Meath in July 2007 in the loss to Wicklow as Fermanagh season came to an end.
Had heard rumours about this but hoped they were not true.
A diaster for Barry. Must be awful hard to take.
Mark Henry, Vice Principal at St Michaels Enniskillen, has been announced as the nes Fermanagh Minor manager
Quote from: Caid on November 24, 2009, 05:21:03 PM
Mark Henry, Vice Principal at St Michaels Enniskillen, has been announced as the nes Fermanagh Minor manager
Good appointment but I think Fermanagh have a weak minor squad this year. Nevertheless, it's about player development and I reckon he'll do a good job.
Didn't Henry manage Aghyaran for a couple of seasons?
Mark Henry - a Derry man, from Greenlough near Kilrea. Appointed in charge of Aghyaran in 2007 with the club being in Tyrone Division 1A. I think they just avoided relegation this year and going by this table (pulled of the Tyrone thread from Oct 07) it seems they were probably in a similar position under Henry. Not sure if he was there in 08 as well?
1A League table,
Carrickmore 18=30
Coalisland 18=29
Donaghmore18=25
Dromore18=25
E-Ciaran 18=25
Galbally 19=19
Ardboe19=18
Killyclogher19=14
Cookstown18=13
Aygharan 19=12
Omagh 17=7
Killeeshill19=3
Won the Rannafast with St Michaels in 2006 (?) and think he may have been involved in the Fermanagh Development Squad at one stage also
http://fermanagh.gaa.ie/plugins/newsfeed.cgi?rm=content&plugin_data_id=29297 looks good
Looks very good, I'm impressed. Thanks be to f**k no more of that gaelic gear shite anyway!!
Quote from: sammymaguire on December 11, 2009, 05:24:01 PM
http://fermanagh.gaa.ie/plugins/newsfeed.cgi?rm=content&plugin_data_id=29297 looks good
I really like the new jersey. Nice and simple.
Fermanagh will be in good shape come championship time. Noises from the camp suggest there is a lot of hurt after last year. I expect a big year!
In terms of the club scene in D1 I think that Roslea will continue to improve but without seamus quigley they are not the same team. Tempo are bound to come good some time they have a very talented squad but i hear there are problems already with management. Ederney may push on especially if McGrath & Ferris regain fitness considering they are there best players yet they stayed up with them injured. Derrygonnely for a fall poor shooting affected them(missing 13M frees) in a couple of league game and they had a relapse in Ulster championship. The promoted teams will be no walk over.
In D2 Coa will be near the top but will not have the squad to win. Gaels and St Pats will battle it out to win. Irvinestown have to show something as they were very poor last year. Hopefully the bridge will do well on their return to senior football.
Last year was a good year for football in Fermanagh, the leagues were well competed in but the championships were poor. This may be related to the small number of clubs ie. 3 games to win senior championship.
Wishes for the year
Mark Little returns to play for his club
Leagues are competitive
Championships produce competitive teams for the Ulster championship
Attendances rise at games
Fermanagh win Ulster and have believe in the all ireland championship remember they got to an all ireland semi final yet seemed to give up other years
Speaking to a few of the Fermanagh panel leads me to believe that things are being done in a very professional manner this year. One thing for sure is that we will not be beaten for fitness or character. On paper we will have a very potent full forward line which could consist of Seamie Quigley (attitude permitting), Ryan Carson and Rory Gallagher - 3 excellent free takers as well 8). A ball winning midfielder and a return to full fitness for Barry Owens are essential to our season.
On the club scene Division 1 should be very close and I feel Devenish or Roslea will again be battling it out for the league. It will be interesting to see how commited some of the Enniskillen Gaels players will be when it comes to lining out in Division 2. Hopefully the championship will serve up more exciting games this year, perhaps a "champions league" format would help with this ???.
Dunno if you could play the three of them together in the ff line, but still, it'd be nice to see a bit of size up there
Quigley is gone already!
Quote from: unitedireland on December 21, 2009, 09:40:04 PM
Quigley is gone already!
Had heard rumours he was having one or two issues with other squad members alright so wouldn't be that surprised. Nightmare to manage, don't know what would be the best solution.
Still time to get him onside though.
::) :D
Hes some craic!
To be fair, its prob the same ones I'd have a problem with myself!
McKenna Cup squad in Herald today
Goalkeepers
Chris Breen - Enniskillen
James McGrath - Belcoo
Defenders
Stephen Burns - Derrygonnelly
Rory Foy - Tempo
Peter Gormley - St Jospeh's
Michael Jones - Derrygonnelly
Damian Kelly - Tempo
Barry Mulrone - Devenish
Martin O'Brien - Devenish
Daniel Ward - Derrygonnelly
John Woods - Lisnaskea
Peter Sherry - Roslea
Shane Goan - Irvinestown
Tommy McElroy - Brookeborough
Midfielders
Ryan Carson - Newtownbutler
Kevin Cosgrove - Roslea Shamrocks
Paul Cosgrove - St Patrick's
Shane O Brien - Erne Gaels
James Sherry - Roslea
Forwards
James Connolly - Newtownbutler
Niall Cunningham St Bridgid's (Antrim)
Ciaran Flaherty - Belcoo
Ryan Jones - Derrygonnelly
Daryl Keenan - Tempo
Mathew Keenan - Enniskillen
Ryan Keenan - Tempo
Aidan McCarron - Enniskillen
Chris O Brien - Devenish
Terry O'Flanagan - Devenish
Paul Ward - Derrygonnelly
Quote from: ExiledGael on December 22, 2009, 06:43:19 PM
McKenna Cup squad in Herald today
Goalkeepers
Chris Breen - Enniskillen
James McGrath - Belcoo
Defenders
Stephen Burns - Derrygonnelly
Rory Foy - Tempo
Peter Gormley - St Jospeh's
Michael Jones - Derrygonnelly
Damian Kelly - Tempo
Barry Mulrone - Devenish
Martin O'Brien - Devenish
Daniel Ward - Derrygonnelly
John Woods - Lisnaskea
Peter Sherry - Roslea
Shane Goan - Irvinestown
Tommy McElroy - Brookeborough
Midfielders
Ryan Carson - Newtownbutler
Kevin Cosgrove - Roslea Shamrocks
Paul Cosgrove - St Patrick's
Shane O Brien - Erne Gaels
James Sherry - Roslea
Forwards
James Connolly - Newtownbutler
Niall Cunningham St Bridgid's (Antrim)
Ciaran Flaherty - Belcoo
Ryan Jones - Derrygonnelly
Daryl Keenan - Tempo
Mathew Keenan - Enniskillen
Ryan Keenan - Tempo
Aidan McCarron - Enniskillen
Chris O Brien - Devenish
Terry O'Flanagan - Devenish
Paul Ward - Derrygonnelly
crap looking squad lads, alot of fellas on trial here?
Yes looks like management are looking to see all the new boys in McKenna Cup.
What boys have not made the squad then?
on first look;
R Gallagher (club related), S McDermott (finished?), R McCluskey, C McElroy, E Maguire, M Little... why is either Quigley not listed? And should there not be more Devenish/Roslea lads on this panel as they were best 2 clubs last season ?
Quote from: sammymaguire on December 23, 2009, 11:14:20 AM
on first look;
R Gallagher (club related), S McDermott (finished?), R McCluskey, C McElroy, E Maguire, M Little... why is either Quigley not listed? And should there not be more Devenish/Roslea lads on this panel as they were best 2 clubs last season ?
is Shane McDermott retired? if so big loss. McCluskey is obviously with Portadown. What are the reasons for Little, McElroy and Maguire??? that is 3 forwards from last year who started, big loss too.
I thnk roslea and devenish are well represented..
3 from Roslea, 4 from Devenish... out of 30. Little skimpy to me but I am all up for giving lads a go so hopefully those that picked will perform well.
Who else from your club would you have on it Sammy?
don't think the 'Bridge has anyone on the team who are worthy of a place on the Fermanagh team, Shane Ingram too small!
Mark Little is still not playing club football so that situation needs sorted before the county football can begin for him. Ciaran McElroy has been travelling from Ballinascreen for a few years and a few months off would do him no harm. Would expect him back later in the year.
Eamon Maguire the same, he's getting married in February.
Could have seen the last of McBarron and Frog but it's only the McKenna Cup yet.
It is certainly a very experimental squad though.
Is Niall Bogue still with Queen's? Thought I seen him in the Herald a while back after becoming solicitor. Thought at the tail end of last year that quite a few of our team looked a little drained and a prolongued break could be good for them in the long term. Hopefully one or two players take their chances in the McKenna Cup but the Quigley situation is a letdown.
Quote from: sammymaguire on December 23, 2009, 01:08:37 PM
don't think the 'Bridge has anyone on the team who are worthy of a place on the Fermanagh team, Shane Ingram too small!
Jaysus, you seem to be a big fan of Roslea, for being a bridge man. But I'll play along... ;)
Who else do you think should be on it from Roslea, Sammy?
On paper it seems a weakish enough squad but with the likes of Ronny and Rory Gallagher, Eamonn Maguire, Mark Little, Marty McGrath, Barry Owens, Ciaran McElroy and Ryan McCluskey all sure to return it will be a lot stronger. The likes of Martin O'Brien and Rory Foy are very exciting prospects. It will be interesting to see if Paul Ward will be given enough time to make an impact and hopefully Paul Cosgrove will develop into the ball winner he can be at club level. Quigley is the main disappointment as he could make the difference in games that are touch and go. Hopefully he will get his issues with himself/squad members sorted (mainly with himself though to be fair)
Quote from: haranguerer on December 23, 2009, 05:23:47 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on December 23, 2009, 01:08:37 PM
don't think the 'Bridge has anyone on the team who are worthy of a place on the Fermanagh team, Shane Ingram too small!
Jaysus, you seem to be a big fan of Roslea, for being a bridge man. But I'll play along... ;)
Who else do you think should be on it from Roslea, Sammy?
best club in the county :o ;) another stranglehold on club football in the county like during the 80's on the horizon... couple of small backs would be in the frame apart from their size
Quote from: Emmett on December 23, 2009, 10:29:48 PM
On paper it seems a weakish enough squad but with the likes of Ronny and Rory Gallagher, Eamonn Maguire, Mark Little, Marty McGrath, Barry Owens, Ciaran McElroy and Ryan McCluskey all sure to return it will be a lot stronger. The likes of Martin O'Brien and Rory Foy are very exciting prospects. It will be interesting to see if Paul Ward will be given enough time to make an impact and hopefully Paul Cosgrove will develop into the ball winner he can be at club level. Quigley is the main disappointment as he could make the difference in games that are touch and go. Hopefully he will get his issues with himself/squad members sorted (mainly with himself though to be fair)
Emmett can you shed any light on the Little issue?? I had heard he will not be back.
agree with what you say about Quigley. It is a pity though because he could be a top class inter county forward.
Cosgrove for st pat's is a player i would have great hopes for.
Could give us another much needed option around the middle
Quote from: FermGael on December 26, 2009, 04:32:02 PM
Quote from: Emmett on December 23, 2009, 10:29:48 PM
On paper it seems a weakish enough squad but with the likes of Ronny and Rory Gallagher, Eamonn Maguire, Mark Little, Marty McGrath, Barry Owens, Ciaran McElroy and Ryan McCluskey all sure to return it will be a lot stronger. The likes of Martin O'Brien and Rory Foy are very exciting prospects. It will be interesting to see if Paul Ward will be given enough time to make an impact and hopefully Paul Cosgrove will develop into the ball winner he can be at club level. Quigley is the main disappointment as he could make the difference in games that are touch and go. Hopefully he will get his issues with himself/squad members sorted (mainly with himself though to be fair)
Emmett can you shed any light on the Little issue?? I had heard he will not be back.
agree with what you say about Quigley. It is a pity though because he could be a top class inter county forward.
Cosgrove for st pat's is a player i would have great hopes for.
Could give us another much needed option around the middle
What's the story with Blobby? Is he back working here or is he still in England? I would like to see Rory Foy make a big push for a starting position this year. He was very impressive in any of the games I saw him in last January/February before he got injured.
Cosgrove came on as a sub against Wicklow in the qualifiers and he plucked one or two balls out of the air but he'll have to do some serious gym work over the winter to be able to compete against big, strong midfielders at inter county level.
Will Womble be back from his travels this year?
Is Leo Mc Bride still part of the county management setup? was/is he the trainer?
was this highlighted on here, looks like some very good news with the form these two lads are showing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8428652.stm
Was on the down board there - a lad seems pretty sure Ryan Keenan was playing whb against them in the challenge match at the weekend, impressed too - has he the right player? Wouldnt have thought he'd have the mobility for that position...
It was definitely Ryan. O'Rourke wants to try him in that position apparently.
Well, he played well against down. Good to see a few things being tried out, I just thought he'd bulked out a lot, and assumed it was at the expense of mobility, but obviously not if hes playing well there.
An interesting one though, not a problem position for us. Possibly the thinking is that when fermanagh are on the attack he can be dodging round mf, ready for the ball to be popped back out to him to take a score.
A fermanagh boys made the mckenna cup uni teams, good to c it. It must be because renshaws is closed.
Niall McElroy tempo
Niall McElroy Skea
Brian Og Skea
Lee McQuade Coa
Fergal Murphy Sham
Niall Cox
Niall McGovern Belcoo
Its in Gaelic life anyway
According to HoganStand Raymie Gallagher is taking Belcoo this year. Hugh Donnelly is going to be trainer. Could be a good appointment. With all their recent underage success Belcoo should have a strong panel in the next few years. Anyone heard of any more managerial appointments ?
Tempo (Seniors and Juniors) will be managed by a team comprising Damien Breen, Coney Campbell and Brian McCaffery
Previous manager Declan McStravick has since taken up a role with a Monaghan Club
Who are they and have they managed anywhere else before??
Wouldn't exactly be household names outside the club alright. Damien would be quite well known as he would have been Midfield for Tempo Seniors for many years including the 97 team that made the Championship Final. He'd be a brother of Sean Breen that played for the County. Brian McCaffery would be in his late twenties and would have played corner back for the Seniors for a few years. May have been involved a bit in underage coaching but not much experience for sure. Not sure if Coney ever kicked much ball but he would have been involved in the current minor team as they came through from u-10s as his cub plays for them (and was called for trials for the county minors there - although he didn't make it)
I suspect Brian and Coney will take the Juniors and Damien will take the Seniors and get a trainer in (I think they may have got some well respected fella from Tyrone but I can't mind who he was or where from)
Tempo, as with many Fermanagh clubs, is rumoured to have had some internal disputes
Cheers for the pm earlier
Fermanagh team this afternoon;
Chrissy Breen, Shane Goan, Stephen Burns, Martin O'Brien, Ryan Keenan, Barry Mulrone, Tommy McElroy, Paul Cosgrove, James Sherry, Terry O'Flanagan, Mattie Keenan, Damian Kelly, Paul Ward, Ryan Carson, Aidan McCarron.
:o
amazed to see caid remarks about internal disputes in tempo or any other fermanagh club
me would have thought internal disputes are just that - internal disputes
any organisation will have differing views within - its called democracy
Nobody gets all they want all of the time - and surely the world would be all the poorer for it if we did
I think the internal disputes that Caid speaks off happened about 7 years ago so hardly recent stuff. Also it's Sean Breen who is managing Tempo this year not Damien.
Only getting on after yesterday's game now. Was certainly a quiet affair in Brewster but there was a few encouraging signs and it's always good to beat Monaghan.
Seen comments on the main McKenna Cup tread about Matty Keenan being the standout player but I must have been watching a different game. He did well at times but wasted a shocking amount of ball and looked at one stage like he was determined to get sent off. But for the half-time whistle I think he would have been.
He done well enough to get another few opportunities but missing two 21 yard frees after each other will do his confidence no good. Blobby assumed the frees from the left for the last ten minutes after that. (anyone ever seen a ref allowing a free to be retaken for the opposition clapping as freetaker runs up???)
I thought Blobby done well at full-forward, especially after Clerkin was sent off. Won a lot of ball and made a few classy picks ups and catches, but he should have finished the game with about 2-4. Opted to pass twice when one-on-one twice in first half when on his right foot and both chances slipped away. Good to see him being left at 14 anyhow.
(Clerkin deserved to go also I thought for a stupid and dangerous challenge)
Around him McCarron from Tyrone looked busy and took a good fisted score. Paul Ward got one point but didn't feature as much as he could have. Damien Kelly took a great score second half and Tommy McElroy was the pick of our half back line.
James Sherry at midfield was probably the best player on view and was taking frees on the right too. Hopefully he can build on a good year for Roslea and start to throw his weight around, he nearly got a goal from a backheel flick so his confidence looks good.
Cosgrove made a few good blocks alongside him but seemed to be knocked off making any clean catches among the crowd at midfield.
Chris O'Brien looked decent when he came on but wasted a few chances and Martin O'Brien in defence looked agressive and done well on Hanratty. Mulrone was quiet enough.
Was hard to tell some players positions and Ryan Keenan did get on the ball a lot but it was against a very shapeless Monaghan side for whom not one player played well.
McArdle, Clerkin and Hanratty were their only real first teamers.
Would expect almost a completely different 15 on Wednesday.
On a worrying note Clucker was stretchered off for Portadown at the weekend with a bad looking knee injury. Club said today that it's badly swollen and they will wait to that settles before sending him for a scan. Hope it's not serious.
Excellent report Exiled. Very bad news about Clucker indeed, was at the relegation playoff this year between Enniskillen and Derrygonnelly and he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch!
How did Burns do at Full Back? Can you see him there long-term? I rate him highly and he had an excellent club championship campaign but I don't see him holding down that role. To be honest, I'd prefer Brady or Lyons in there ahead of him.
Good to hear Blobby did well, target man like him badly needed there. Such a pity Seamus Quigley packed it in.
Where do you people see Gallagher fitting in when he comes back? For me the only positions for him are CHF or in the corner. I don't think he has the workrate for WHF or the physicality for FF. Personally I would love to see him at CHF because I think his distribution is top notch.
Any word on the championship draws or league set-up for 2010?
Quote from: 118cmal on January 19, 2010, 12:43:04 PM
Excellent report Exiled. Very bad news about Clucker indeed, was at the relegation playoff this year between Enniskillen and Derrygonnelly and he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch!
How did Burns do at Full Back? Can you see him there long-term? I rate him highly and he had an excellent club championship campaign but I don't see him holding down that role. To be honest, I'd prefer Brady or Lyons in there ahead of him.
Good to hear Blobby did well, target man like him badly needed there. Such a pity Seamus Quigley packed it in.
Where do you people see Gallagher fitting in when he comes back? For me the only positions for him are CHF or in the corner. I don't think he has the workrate for WHF or the physicality for FF. Personally I would love to see him at CHF because I think his distribution is top notch.
Burns didn't look out of place and both Hugh McElroy and Ciaran Hanratty were in the Monaghan full-forwardline so they were probably Monaghan's most established line. Thought there was a little indecisiveness at times but probably a little inexperience. Would imagine he'll get another chance in next game or two and he probably needs to be a little more aggressive. With the amount of defenders we have he'll do well to earn a squad place but he has a chance.
Agree on Rory Gallagher at centre half-forward, especially with Blobby at 14 jumping with the keeper under new rules. Matty Keenen acted as playmaker on Sunday but Gallagher has a much better range of passing and experience, plus he would would be a lot more reliable from frees.
James Sherry was taking frees from right on Sunday and he wouldn't even be free taker for Roslea with Quigley there.
Fermanagh 8-5 up at the break. Scrappy game, Blobby away off injured, looks like a knee injury.
what is the team?
final score?
Fermanagh 1-13 1-12 UUJ.
Any word of Blobby's injury? I heard it was an ankle injury?
The Irish Times - Thursday, January 21, 2010Kelly's cameo crucial
Fermanagh 1-13 UUJ 1-12:
FERMANAGH DID enough to see off the late challenge of UUJ in this free-flowing McKenna Cup game at Brewster Park Enniskillen.
A second half goal from Damien Kelly for Fermanagh was cancelled out by Peter Hughes for the University men and it was a shoot-out for points which decided this game.
FERMANAGH: J McGrath; J Woods (0-2), S Lyons, M Jones; D Ward, R Foy, P Sherry; R Jones (0-2), J Sherry (0-1, free); D Keenan (0-3), M Keenan, C Flaherty; N Cunningham (0-1, free), R Carson (0-3, one free), P Gormley. Subs: D Kelly (1-1) for Carson (25 mins), C O'Brien for M Keenan (50 mins), P Cosgrove for J Sherry (61 mins), T O'Flanagan for Gormley (61mins), R Keenan for Sherry (65 mins)
UUJ: M McAlister, C Murray, S Mulligan, A Girvan, C Bayne, E Kenny, K Nolan, D McCann, C O'Boyle, T McCann (0-2, one free), M Gottche, D Mulholland (0-1), C McManus (0-3, one free), J McAnulla (0-3), D McNulty, Subs: C McGinley for Kenny (20 mins), S O'Hagan for Murray (ht), P Hughes (1-0) for Nolan (ht), J Clarke (0-3, one free) for McNulty (44 mins), D Hughes for McKenna (55 mins
Was anyone at the game on Wed night?
Great result for the boys today, that's three wins on the trot, not bad, even if it's only the McKenna Cup.
Line up today was;
R Gallagher, Bogue, Lyons, M O'Brien, R Keenan, P Sherry, Mulrone, T McElroy, Jones, Kelly, O'Flaherty, Gormley, P Ward, C O'Brien, Connolly.
Great result, especially with a very inexperienced forward line. Who done any of the scoring?
Is it Tyrone now in the semi-final?
Bad news on Clucker, knee ligament damage and out for two months anyway. Don't know if Portadown would have allowed him to play in the League anyway though.
Quote from: ExiledGael on January 24, 2010, 05:11:29 PM
Great result, especially with a very inexperienced forward line. Who done any of the scoring?
Is it Tyrone now in the semi-final?
Bad news on Clucker, knee ligament damage and out for two months anyway. Don't know if Portadown would have allowed him to play in the League anyway though.
Yeah, semi final this Wednesday night, not sure of venue, but Brewster Park was mentioned today.
Great result today, especially with such an experimental team. Really good performance by the defence today. Pete Sherry was as good as ever, but Martin O'Brien and Barry Mulrone were superb. I think we may have had the smallest full forward lines I have ever seen at inter county level today! Chris O'Brien for all his size wins a lot of ball though. Early signs are very positive for the young Devenish player.
Rory Gallagher played the whole second half but he didn't get much ball. Armagh dominated midfield, but they were very wasteful. Stevie McDonnell dragged them back into the game but overall Armagh were very poor against an inexperienced Fermanagh side.
So Tyrone up next on Wednesday. It should be a good game against our neighbours.
Three wins in the McKenna Cup is extremely pleasing. There is definitely a greater hunger in this Fermanagh side this year which was lacking last season. Things are looking good so far.
Ryan Jones got the goal. He took most of the frees as well. He must have finished with about 1-2 or 1-3
Ulster club under 21
Crossmaglen 5-22 0-3 Donagh
That's a terrible scoreline in the St Pats match! Buy hey ho.
Heard James Sherry steadied the ship a bit today round the mddle when he came on. Heard Rory wasn't great when he came on.
I'm amazed that Fermanagh have won all three games with the teams they sent out.
Quote from: Caid on January 24, 2010, 07:16:25 PM
That's a terrible scoreline in the St Pats match! Buy hey ho.
Heard James Sherry steadied the ship a bit today round the mddle when he came on. Heard Rory wasn't great when he came on.
I'm amazed that Fermanagh have won all three games with the teams they sent out.
James Sherry wasn't on today. Ryan Carson came on and steadied the ship around midfield.
That's some hammering Donagh got today! I'd say Rory Gallagher will be grand when he gets some more game time. He's been on the go at club level for the last 9 or 10 months, he must be pretty wrecked at this stage.
Good result for Fermanagh today and its been a good start to the year, Defense has per usual was excellent, worked really hard and got struck it and played as a unit. I was very impressed by O'Brien at corner back and him and Pete sherry where prob the pick of the players on show today. Ferm midfield struggled to get clean ball but they stopped Armagh getting it either and overall showed up well enough considering it was makeshift. Jones will eventually make a county midfielder but this year is prob just to soon for him. The forwards as per usual is where the problems lie. O'Fla looked sharpe and could be a great addition if he shot more. Chris O'Brien also showed up well but overall I still wonder where our scores will come from. We still dont have a 5/6 point man.
Overall a good hard working preformance but Armagh were awful and if I was a Armagh fan I would be a very worried man. Apart from Stevie I seen nothing good from them against a makeshift Fermanagh team.
Now bring on the Tyrone men!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Fermanaghandsam on January 24, 2010, 08:58:54 PM
Good result for Fermanagh today and its been a good start to the year, Defense has per usual was excellent, worked really hard and got struck it and played as a unit. I was very impressed by O'Brien at corner back and him and Pete sherry where prob the pick of the players on show today. Ferm midfield struggled to get clean ball but they stopped Armagh getting it either and overall showed up well enough considering it was makeshift. Jones will eventually make a county midfielder but this year is prob just to soon for him. The forwards as per usual is where the problems lie. O'Fla looked sharpe and could be a great addition if he shot more. Chris O'Brien also showed up well but overall I still wonder where our scores will come from. We still dont have a 5/6 point man.
Overall a good hard working preformance but Armagh were awful and if I was a Armagh fan I would be a very worried man. Apart from Stevie I seen nothing good from them against a makeshift Fermanagh team.
Now bring on the Tyrone men!!!!!!!!!
Be careful what you wish for!
Who came on as subs today and who scored
Quote from: Fermanaghandsam on January 24, 2010, 08:58:54 PM
Good result for Fermanagh today and its been a good start to the year, Defense has per usual was excellent, worked really hard and got struck it and played as a unit. I was very impressed by O'Brien at corner back and him and Pete sherry where prob the pick of the players on show today. Ferm midfield struggled to get clean ball but they stopped Armagh getting it either and overall showed up well enough considering it was makeshift. Jones will eventually make a county midfielder but this year is prob just to soon for him. The forwards as per usual is where the problems lie. O'Fla looked sharpe and could be a great addition if he shot more. Chris O'Brien also showed up well but overall I still wonder where our scores will come from. We still dont have a 5/6 point man.
Overall a good hard working preformance but Armagh were awful and if I was a Armagh fan I would be a very worried man. Apart from Stevie I seen nothing good from them against a makeshift Fermanagh team.
Now bring on the Tyrone men!!!!!!!!!
We can only hope that Eamon Maguire comes back really fresh and rearing to go after his break from football. Rory Gallagher will play a major role this season. Not only in the scores he is likely to bring to the side, but also the education of decision making and positional play he can pass on to the younger players in the squad.
I think we already know we don't have a 5 or 6 points a game forward. As a result it's imperative that the forwards play as a collective unit and chip in with a couple of points per player every game.
Quote from: Gold on January 24, 2010, 09:05:28 PM
Quote from: Fermanaghandsam on January 24, 2010, 08:58:54 PM
Good result for Fermanagh today and its been a good start to the year, Defense has per usual was excellent, worked really hard and got struck it and played as a unit. I was very impressed by O'Brien at corner back and him and Pete sherry where prob the pick of the players on show today. Ferm midfield struggled to get clean ball but they stopped Armagh getting it either and overall showed up well enough considering it was makeshift. Jones will eventually make a county midfielder but this year is prob just to soon for him. The forwards as per usual is where the problems lie. O'Fla looked sharpe and could be a great addition if he shot more. Chris O'Brien also showed up well but overall I still wonder where our scores will come from. We still dont have a 5/6 point man.
Overall a good hard working preformance but Armagh were awful and if I was a Armagh fan I would be a very worried man. Apart from Stevie I seen nothing good from them against a makeshift Fermanagh team.
Now bring on the Tyrone men!!!!!!!!!
Be careful what you wish for!
Who came on as subs today and who scored
Today's subs who came on were Ryan Carson, Aidan McCarron and Matthew Keenan. I'm surprised there was only 3 changes, but I don't think I missed any.
Highlights from the Armagh game (stolen from another thread)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgqmw_HZLGA
Anyone reckon theres any chance at all tomorrow night?
Not being a sayer of doom or anything, I think the campaign has been excellent - winning with inexperienced players, but would rather not have come up against tyrone I think - they're flying it seems, and the confidence could take a battering - anyone think otherwise?
Quote from: haranguerer on January 26, 2010, 10:01:59 PM
Anyone reckon theres any chance at all tomorrow night?
Not being a sayer of doom or anything, I think the campaign has been excellent - winning with inexperienced players, but would rather not have come up against tyrone I think - they're flying it seems, and the confidence could take a battering - anyone think otherwise?
Yeah, I agree. We were discussing this on the way home from the match on Sunday. The last thing we need is a hammering from a Tyrone tomorrow night. In saying this, it will all depend on what teams are selected by both managers. Tyrone have been very experimental in their three games and I can't see Mickey Harte moving away from this type of strategy tomorrow night. Fermanagh have also used the McKenna cup to blood new talent and it is likely that many of the new boys will play again. From last year's team I expect Chris Breen, Peter Sherry, Tommy McElroy, Ryan Carson and Damien Kelly to start. I'm not sure what the fitness status is for James Sherry, but if he's fit, he'll probably play. Up front, Aidan McCarron should start and Matthew Keenan as well. I'm only guessing, though, but we'll need some experience on the field. I would also like to see Martin O'Brien and Barry Mulrone play. Both of them have been most impressive in the games I've seen them in, especially the game against Armagh last Sunday.
The McKenna cup has served us well his year, so hopefully we can put in another good perfomance tomorrow night. It would be nice to win, especially against Tyrone, but it's all about giving the younger, newer players big match experience.
Fermanagh team tonight
McGrath, Burns, Jones, O'Brien, P. Sherry, Mulrone, T. McElroy, Cosgrove, Jones, Kelly, M. Keenan, O'Flaherty, D. Keenan, Foy, McCarron.
1.20 to 1.8 given as the ft score on the mckenna cup thread.
Mainly tyronies doing the reporting though, so only heard about their performances. How did any of the fermanagh lads do?
I'm happy enough with that result, under 15 pts, and while conceded a goal, got one back. Tyrone have the strength in depth to go for every competition they enter, and a convincing win was an inevitability. Fermanagh have given a very good account of themselves so far, which is great when consider the amount of players blooded. Bodes very well for the season ahead, and gives reassurance (not that it were needed) that O'Rourke is the man for the job.
I'm not too concerned about the result. We don't have the same strength in depth as Tyrone. We never have and never will, but Malachy will be pleased with our McKenna Cup campaign. I have been really impressed with quite a few of the new players. It'll be interesting to see which players are let go at this stage.
I think the camp will be happy enough with this showing, 4 games, 3 wins, in decent form and should be confident of a strong showing in a very competitive division 3 this season - ANTRIM, SLIGO, LOUTH, WEXFORD, ROSCOMMON there'll be some decent football here, and the away games are not bad either going to Tullamore, Casement and Wexford Park although it is annoying that we are not up against some stiffer counties like Tipp, Armagh, Meath, Kildare which might leave them in better shape for the championship
Don't know how some people will be happy to escape with a hammering like that one last night. Very worrying signs for Fermanagh. One young girl sitting behind me wanted to know why the players kept shooting into the same goals
Its second string teams at this time of the year - the difference is that Tyrone have vast resources, so their second string is almost as good as their first. Fermanagh aren't blessed with similar resources, as we know, so their second string falls short against the likes of Tyrone.
I'm a(n optimistic) realist, a heavy beating was inevitable - it could have been worse, but most importantly when Fermanagh restore a few familiar faces they will improve a lot more than Tyrone will.
The match last night had the potential to undo all the good a solid McKenna cup campaign has done - while it was a convincing beating, I dont think it did this, so I'm happy enough.
Folks, were the championship draws made last night?
never heard, thought someone would have stuck this up if so ???
Haven't heard any word of the championship draw yet
After chatting to quite a few people there could well be a decent Fermanagh contingent down in Offaly this weekend. Hopefully the players will be recovered after their seemingly brutal training weekend at the Curragh camp. Here would be my starting 15 for the opening league fixture (bearing in mind that Ryan Keenan has left the panel)
C Breen
M OBrien
S Lyons
S Goan
R Foy
T McElroy (if fit)
B Mulrone
J Sherry
R Jones
D Kelly
C Flaherty
D Keenan
A McCarron
R Carson
M Keenan
The forward line is still the troublesome area but hopefully will improve when Rory Gallagher and Eamonn join the fold
Why has Ryan Keenan left?
Has the nfl panel being finalised?
The word is the bonding weekend in kildare was a disaster, players getting hosed with cold water as they shower, running about the place carrying logs, sleeping in sub standard accomodation, getting flogged the week before the start of the league, sounds like the pressure is on the management and panic is setting in already >:(
Quote from: bennylewis on February 03, 2010, 08:47:00 PM
The word is the bonding weekend in kildare was a disaster, players getting hosed with cold water as they shower, running about the place carrying logs, sleeping in sub standard accomodation, getting flogged the week before the start of the league, sounds like the pressure is on the management and panic is setting in already >:(
Bullshit
Well said Caid!
Lets hope for a good start on Sun.
why is Seamie Quigley not on the panel again? best forward in the county by a stretch last year ???
Quote from: sammymaguire on February 05, 2010, 06:18:43 PM
why is Seamie Quigley not on the panel again? best forward in the county by a stretch last year ???
Few stories pointing to a "can't be arsed" attitude - not sure if they are true or not. Big loss though. Adding him and Rory into last years team would have made for a much stronger forward line (on paper at least).
don't need lads like that in the panel anyway, toxic attitude would spread and do untold damage - does he play soccer for Ballinamallard, I heard that but didn't believe it.
Wouldn't surprise me, know he's pretty handy at it and played for Clones and maybe Monaghan.
What's this about Ryan Keenan?
Quote from: ExiledGael on February 05, 2010, 06:34:32 PM
Wouldn't surprise me, know he's pretty handy at it and played for Clones and maybe Monaghan.
What's this about Ryan Keenan?
Not sure of the details of why he was huffing but word is he's back anyway.
Disappointing start to the league. Ger Tracey was very downbeat on Radio Ulster.
9 wides and 8 balls dropped into the keeper's hands.
5 of Fermanagh's forwards didn't even feature in the championship last season. It was a big ask to win down in Tullamore, especially when you think of the lack of experience in the forward line.
Mattie Keenan and Daryl Keenan appartently missed scoreable fress as well. Surely Rory should take on this responsibility?
another year of misplaced optimism ???
Quote from: sammymaguire on February 07, 2010, 04:20:13 PM
another year of misplaced optimism ???
We were missing Ryan Carson, Eamon Maguire, Ciaran McElroy and Mark Little from last year. Add to this Marty McGrath in midfield. I know it doesn't sound like many players but a county of our resources can ill afford to miss players of that quality.
If Rory makes himself unavailable in the next few weeks because of committments with St. Gall's, we might be in trouble.
Massive game against Roscommon next week.
Fermanagh had young full corner-back Marty O'Brien sent off in the 33rd minute as they fell to defeat in their league opener away to Offaly.
The Devenish debutant got a straight red for an off-the-ball incident.
Fermanagh, boosted by a Daryl Keenan goal on 14 minutes, were just 0-9 to 1-5 down at half-time.
But Offaly's Ciaran McManus burst through to score a goal with a shot which came off Fermanagh's Ryan Jones before looping into the net.
Fermanagh were left to reflect on their weaknesses up front.
Five of their front players had not featured in the 2009 Championship and the Ulster side hit eight shots into the Offaly keeper and had nine wides.
Fermanagh made a sluggish start and, although Matthew Keenan landed a wonderful strike from 50 metres, Offaly enjoyed a 0-4 to 0-1 lead.
But the Erne county levelled matters when Daryl Keenan found the net after Offaly keeper Alan Mulhall had parried out a shot.
Skipper James Sherry and another from Matthew Keenan added to Fermanagh's tally and the counties were level at 0-6 to 1-3.
Then came the red card before Jones and Sherry added points for Fermanagh before half-time.
Quote from: Caid on February 05, 2010, 04:10:21 PM
Quote from: bennylewis on February 03, 2010, 08:47:00 PM
The word is the bonding weekend in kildare was a disaster, players getting hosed with cold water as they shower, running about the place carrying logs, sleeping in sub standard accomodation, getting flogged the week before the start of the league, sounds like the pressure is on the management and panic is setting in already >:(
Bullshit
Very intellectual reply Caid !!!!!!!!, hate to say it but todays defeat was waiting to happen. I travelled to Tullamore more in hope today, but again another let down in a match we should be winning. You questioned my synopsis of the 'bonding' weekend in Kildare in your eloquent post, I happen to have a family member on the current panel who is more than unhappy what went on last weekend and who considered leaving the panel only for the intervention of his father and other family members. We were very proud when the cub became the first member of the family to gain selection for fermanagh, but it so far has been a fairly shambolic experience, players treated like school kids rather than inter county players, fear of speaking out prevent players from venting their displeasure as it results in them being dropped from the team.
Quote from: bennylewis on February 07, 2010, 08:17:03 PM
Quote from: Caid on February 05, 2010, 04:10:21 PM
Quote from: bennylewis on February 03, 2010, 08:47:00 PM
The word is the bonding weekend in kildare was a disaster, players getting hosed with cold water as they shower, running about the place carrying logs, sleeping in sub standard accomodation, getting flogged the week before the start of the league, sounds like the pressure is on the management and panic is setting in already >:(
Bullshit
Very intellectual reply Caid !!!!!!!!, hate to say it but todays defeat was waiting to happen. I travelled to Tullamore more in hope today, but again another let down in a match we should be winning. You questioned my synopsis of the 'bonding' weekend in Kildare in your eloquent post, I happen to have a family member on the current panel who is more than unhappy what went on last weekend and who considered leaving the panel only for the intervention of his father and other family members. We were very proud when the cub became the first member of the family to gain selection for fermanagh, but it so far has been a fairly shambolic experience, players treated like school kids rather than inter county players, fear of speaking out prevent players from venting their displeasure as it results in them being dropped from the team.
Benny, in fairness to Caid, I'm not sure if his response was in regard to whether the weekend took place or whether he doesn't agree with you that it is an indication that the current management are under pressure.
Today's result was disappointing but when we you go through the team that lined out, it wasn't a complete surprise we were beaten. Five of the forwards didn't even play in last year's championship. The lack of experience at this level means that results like today will happen. The current squad is talented but extremely young. In my opinion, unless we get some of the senior guys back, promotion will be a big ask.
Quote from: bennylewis on February 07, 2010, 08:17:03 PM
Very intellectual reply Caid !!!!!!!!, hate to say it but todays defeat was waiting to happen. I travelled to Tullamore more in hope today, but again another let down in a match we should be winning. You questioned my synopsis of the 'bonding' weekend in Kildare in your eloquent post, I happen to have a family member on the current panel who is more than unhappy what went on last weekend and who considered leaving the panel only for the intervention of his father and other family members. We were very proud when the cub became the first member of the family to gain selection for fermanagh, but it so far has been a fairly shambolic experience, players treated like school kids rather than inter county players, fear of speaking out prevent players from venting their displeasure as it results in them being dropped from the team.
Benny I could very nearly work out who the player is from your post. I would say that he would not appreciate this being on the web.
As for the match, I was there on sunday.
R Jones is too light for midfield. He is s good prospect but lacks the physicality for midfield at the moment. Think he still still good enough to be on the team though. Maybe wing half forward??
The positives were D and M Keenan. Both looked really dangerous. Rory Gallagher showing glimpses of class(his pass for the fermanagh goal was unreal) but sometimes took too much out of the ball. Seemed to be trying to hard at times. The Offally full forward line played well and fermanagh could do with get Goan back as soon as. We missed him yesterday. Mulrone did well at times bringing the ball out of defence but his man did a lot of damage. Needs to get tighter but he will improve and learn. Martin O'Brien was silly yesterday getting sent of but the Offally forward should have went as well. How an umpire can see one and not the other is beyond belief. Losing the man really hamstrung Fermanagh. The Offally goal was the difference in the end and came as Fermanagh were getting on top in the second half. After that Offally just sat back and protected there lead. Too many balls kicked into the keepers hands in the first half and at the end, we missed 2 very kickable frees. But considering the age of the team that was on and the players that were missing, it was not a bad performance. James Sherry is playing the football of his life at the moment. Carson was a late withdrawal yesterday and will be back for Saturday. Need to win our next 3 if we are to have a chance of promotion
If hes just made the panel now Benny (and fair play to him for doing so), then how does he know how senior intercounty players should be treated?
You're not the only one who knows players, and while I heard about it being pretty brutal, anyone I was talking to certainly didnt see it as either a waste of time, nor a poor reflection on the management, as you imply.
Also, if your sibling only remains on the panel because he feels he has to due to pressure from family members, then he'd be a lot better leaving it - first and foremost you have to be there because you want to be there, not because anyone else wants you to be there.
Quote from: haranguerer on February 08, 2010, 11:14:48 AM
If hes just made the panel now Benny (and fair play to him for doing so), then how does he know how senior intercounty players should be treated?
You're not the only one who knows players, and while I heard about it being pretty brutal, anyone I was talking to certainly didnt see it as either a waste of time, nor a poor reflection on the management, as you imply.
Also, if your sibling only remains on the panel because he feels he has to due to pressure from family members, then he'd be a lot better leaving it - first and foremost you have to be there because you want to be there, not because anyone else wants you to be there.
Fair enough points....I think a wee bit of frustration had set in after yesterdays fruitless journey, still i will continue to back the men in the green and white, and hopefully we will get our league campaign off and running next sunday against the rossies.
Its easy to get frustrated following Fermanagh! :D
I'm not overly surprised and thus not overly disappointed by the result in Tullamore.
We're still missing key players, and a lot of improvement will be made. However, a win this sat is vital.
Champioship draw made
Some interesting draws
SFC First Round
A Derrygonnelly v Newtownbutler
B Kinawley v Enniskillen
C Belcoo v Roslea
D Teemore v Tempo
SFC Quarter Finals
St.Joseph's v St.Patrick's
A v Devenish
Erne Gaels v B
D v C
As a Gaels man, this is a hard draw.
A Fellow divison 2 team in the first round and then the winners play Erne Gaels from division 1 in the quarters.
Erne Gaels and Kinawley(reining intermediate champions) will be regarded as favourites, but we will give it a rattle
Quote from: FermGael on February 09, 2010, 12:13:47 PM
As a Gaels man, this is a hard draw.
A Fellow divison 2 team in the first round and then the winners play Erne Gaels from division 1 in the quarters.
Erne Gaels and Kinawley(reining intermediate champions) will be regarded as favourites, but we will give it a rattle
Haha nice one Ferm!
Enniskillen have a very good draw, should cruise to the semis.
Any way of getting odds on the Ferm championship?
champions gone at the first hurdle :o :o
Quote from: 118cmal on February 09, 2010, 12:30:43 PM
Quote from: FermGael on February 09, 2010, 12:13:47 PM
As a Gaels man, this is a hard draw.
A Fellow divison 2 team in the first round and then the winners play Erne Gaels from division 1 in the quarters.
Erne Gaels and Kinawley(reining intermediate champions) will be regarded as favourites, but we will give it a rattle
Haha nice one Ferm!
Enniskillen have a very good draw, should cruise to the semis.
Any way of getting odds on the Ferm championship?
Ah now Mal.
Sure the gaels are a spent force.
All our players are too old. Most in there late twenties and past it.
A soccer man taking the team this year.
No Chance ;)
Just looking at the other draws there now.
It seems that Tempo are entering a thirds team which is great to see along with Teemore and Derrygonnelly.
THERE IS NO JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR WHICH IS A DISGRACE.
FERMANAGH WILL HAVE NO REPRESETNATATIVES IN THE JUNIOR ULSTER'S THIS YEAR.
The Junior championship used to be a very meaningful competition.
Surely the Fermanagh county board should be taking a motion to the Ulster Congress looking for
the possibility of Fermanagh having a reserve team represent them.
Coa, Belanleck and Maguiresbridge are all in the intermediate.
Lisnaskea should win this at a canter. Only real serious opposition is B'Boro
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Ah now Mal.
Sure the gaels are a spent force.
All our players are too old. Most in there late twenties and past it.
A soccer man taking the team this year.
No Chance ;)
Good to see reality setting in amongst the Gaels fans at last! But sure when Kinawly beat youse you can always shout for the other Enniskillen men that will be togging out for Coa and Belnaleck in the Intermediate!
Quote from: Caid on February 09, 2010, 09:52:45 PM
Good to see reality setting in amongst the Gaels fans at last! But sure when Kinawly beat youse you can always shout for the other Enniskillen men that will be togging out for Coa and Belnaleck in the Intermediate!
True. True.
At least we do ot delude ourselves every year by Saying
(1) that we have the best young team in fermanagh and its only a matter of time
(2) After being put out again in the first round, sure there is always next year ;)
P.S Caid are there not a few Tempo men playing For Coa this weather too
Quote from: FermGael on February 09, 2010, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: Caid on February 09, 2010, 09:52:45 PM
Good to see reality setting in amongst the Gaels fans at last! But sure when Kinawly beat youse you can always shout for the other Enniskillen men that will be togging out for Coa and Belnaleck in the Intermediate!
True. True.
At least we do ot delude ourselves every year by Saying
(1) that we have the best young team in fermanagh and its only a matter of time
(2) After being put out again in the first round, sure there is always next year ;)
P.S Caid are there not a few Tempo men playing For Coa this weather too
In fairness, not really a delusion :P
Again true.but i remember tempo men telling me about how tempo were going to dominate fermanagh football for the next 10 years.i have a feeling i will be waiting a while yet
Personally I think Belcoo have the best group of players in the 20-24 years category and could be a real force in the Championship.
James McGrath, Ciaran Flaherty, Kieran Leonard, the twins, Johnny Feely, Paul McGrath are all very good club players. They also have experience with the likes of Stephen Maguire there.
Again, anyone know of anyone who'll give odds on the Fermanagh Club championship?
Who would be the strongest 2 or 3 minor teams in fermanagh
Quote from: 118cmal on February 10, 2010, 12:56:49 PM
Personally I think Belcoo have the best group of players in the 20-24 years category and could be a real force in the Championship.
James McGrath, Ciaran Flaherty, Kieran Leonard, the twins, Johnny Feely, Paul McGrath are all very good club players. They also have experience with the likes of Stephen Maguire there.
Again, anyone know of anyone who'll give odds on the Fermanagh Club championship?
There's a bookies in Irvinestowns opposite Mahons that would do it I think
What happened with Gallagher in 04? Sort of missed that episode..
The Big Interview: Ronan Gallagher
By Declan Bogue
IT'S the Monday after a team training weekend and Ronan Gallagher is slumping back on the seat. On Saturday, he and the rest of the Fermanagh panel had two running sessions completed before 9am, with another couple of 'fun' exercises planned later in the day. With an All-Ireland semi-final coming up with his club, St Gall's and another year of the inter-county treadmill stretching out in front of him, he doesn't have time to get tired, as he tells Declan Bogue...
Declan Bogue: In a family like yours, there was no choice over whether you were going to play football, was there?
Ronan Gallagher: Yeah, Dad would have has us [Ronan and older brother Rory] out on the front lawn, like any father would, preaching the basics. He was always big into the high catch, I suppose because he played midfield himself. Raymond [Gallagher, cousin] would have knocked about with Rory a lot, if we weren't allowed on the front lawn we headed off to the field in Belleek through the back fields.
DB: With Raymond being a bit of a child prodigy, how did that impact on you?
RG: Even before the MacRory Cup and that with Raymond, I can remember Erne Gaels [Belleek, the home club] winning an under 12 championship when he was the main man. He was brilliant that day and I remember wanting to get back to the house and play with him, but he was too tired.
DB: And there was also a bit of soccer played with Rory and Raymond too...
RG: Aye, Rory was an excellent soccer player. I played a bit with Kesh outfield, but I wasn't very good. I was actually playing this winter in Armagh with a team called the Armagh Hammers! It was good fun, but it will go on the back foot now that we are back with the county.
DB: You had a lot to live up to, with those pair that wee bit older than you...
RG: Well, Rory played county minors at corner-back when he was only 14 and Raymond was on the county senior team as a minor. The thing about Rory was that he was always so central to any team he played on and most teams he played on he won something.
DB: So what way did your underage career go?
RG: Well, I was on the Fermanagh minors training panel when I was 17 and my father was the manager. He cut me off it after a few trainings and it didn't go down too well back at home! That year, Dad tried both Ronan McCabe and Colm Bradley at wing-half back and we got a draw against Cavan in the Championship, but it was the days before the 'attacking' wing backs and his tactics weren't well-received.
I was midfield the following year, donkeying about and we lost to Cavan again. We had our chances to win, Sean Quinn missed a couple, but it wasn't to be.
DB: When did the switch to goals come about?
RG: I always played for the team in the age group above me, in goals. I would have fancied myself as an outfield man, but never had the pace. Even after that, I would have done OK for Erne Gaels, but was better in nets.
DB: When did you make your senior debut?
RG: I played when I was 16 and we actually won the league that year, 1996. My uncle, Raymond Gallagher senior, was the manager and we destroyed Lisnaskea who were the best team in the county at that time.
The year after, we got to the Championship semi-final against 'Skea, but it was Eddie O'Reilly's [full-forward] wedding the day before. That put an end to those hopes. We had boys living in Belfast and the travelling was a bit too much and when lads headed off to America for the Summer, the thing went downhill.
DB: When were you drafted onto the senior county panel?
RG: I was working in the diesel station in Belleek and Martin McGloin who's passed away now, he came up to me and said, 'congratulations, you're on the training panel.' I didn't know what he was on about, but it was in the Irish News. I was 17 at the time and on my third training session, it was my 18th birthday and I was trailing round St Michael's with men like Collie Curran, Tony Collins and Paddy McGuinness.
It was a different game then, though. After training, we would go to The Railway Hotel and everyone would sit down to chicken and chips, the odd man would have been taking a pint with it. We would have been given a pair of boots just before the championship, maybe a T-shirt out of the boot of a car.
At that time, I was a bit in awe of these men, when I felt like a boy. Men like Collie Curran, Kieran Gallagher, Tommy Callaghan. They were going back home to their wives and I was going back to mess about with my mates.
With Rory and Raymond there though, they kept me right and taught me a lot. Number one, you don't drop out of training. Ever. They were always on time for training. Nobody trained harder than Rory and he and Raymond instilled that in me.
I got one league game against Louth in the '98 season and the year after that, I went to Australia for the year.
DB: That was before it became fashionable to go Down Under?
RG: Yeah, I was friendly with Brian McCauley and he was a joiner out there. I suppose now everybody goes at some time, but we found our feet. I lived in Bondi Junction, just down by the Oval and trained with Clann na nGael, done a bit of labouring on the sites, it seems like a lifetime ago now.
DB: You came back in 2001 and went straight back into the panel when John Maughan was there.
RG: Yeah and straight away we were very close to going on strike, before the first league match against Mayo. We had players who went to the County Board, because we weren't getting the full mileage rate, all we wanted was to be treated the same as other counties, but we were receiving something like 18p a mile, when other counties were set at 30p a mile, something like that.
Rory was only young, but he done a bit of talking about it, Raymond wasn't afraid to speak his mind either, as was Paul Brewster. In fairness, it shouldn't have got to that stage, but we got word on the morning of the match that everything was going to be sorted out.
DB: How was the John Maughan year?
RG: I took him 100 percent. I had just come back from Australia and called him up to ask for a trial. Went to training and made it.
People can say what they want about him, but he's straight as a dice. OK, things didn't work out, but...
DB: After you beat Donegal in a replay, you had Monaghan coming up the next week and he had a training session of endless running?
RG: I remember that Wednesday night. That was his way, he believed in it and as a player you done what your manager said.
One thing about him though, he was a stickler for punctuality. We trained at St Michael's at the time and a few latecomers came running down the hill, he just said, 'next time you're late, you won't be back.'
I don't think he was treated fairly. Yes, he had shortcomings, but he brought a lot to the table in terms of preparation. In fairness to him and Mickey McGeehan, his trainer who is now with Donegal, they had huge appetite and enthusiasm. Given a bit more time, he could have done a lot.
DB: But it ended in tears?
RG: Something strange happened that year though. We were meant to have a meeting with him, it was in Enniskillen at half six and I only got word of it at 6pm that evening. I was in Belleek and knew nothing about it, until Paul Brewster called me. It hadn't been communicated to the players.
DB: The following year, you got your first sighting of The Gooch, when Kerry gave you a heavy beating in the qualifiers.
RG: They do the basics of the game really, really well - the hand pass, the kicking, the high catch. Noel Kennelly burst through in the first few minutes and buried in a goal. Then the Gooch popped up and lobbed me with an exquisite goal, it really was a peach.
DB: Tommy Carr came and talked to the Fermanagh panel before that game, how did that go down?
RG: Ah, it was a mistake. Some might have thought it would give us a lift, but I don't know. Tommy Carr told us that Kerry were on their way out, their players were done and that they had a schoolboy playing for them. The schoolboy turned out to be The Gooch. But he was lecturing us about Cooper being in school and Ryan Keenan was sitting close by me and he was still at school himself!
DB: In just over a year though, you got to play in Croke Park twice.
RG: I really enjoyed 2003. Martin McElkennon set our attitude right from day one. Dom [Corrigan, manager] had us away on a training camp and it was all different for Fermanagh.
Players began to take things on board. Another man who was involved was Brendan Hackett, the Westmeath manager, who done a lot of psychology with us. I remember at one training he asked us to grade ourselves as an 'A', 'B', or 'C' team and showed us what the 'A' teams were doing and so on. We made improvements, no messing in training. I was coaching in Derry during the Summer and would meet Martin McElkennon in Ballygawley to go down to training; Marty's attitude and the way he conducted himself was first class.
We bought into the proper honesty and it was the first time I heard coaches or managers saying to players, 'when are you going to start playing?' - 'when are you going to perform?' Before that there was a lot of walking on eggshells.
DB: You should have beat Down in that Ulster semi-final...
RG: People don't remember that Down scored a penalty that day. It hit the underside of my arm after I guessed right, but it went in anyway. Did we get cowed by the Down reputation? Maybe we did.
DB: It all led to a serious run afterwards.
RG: Yeah, we deserved it and played great games against Cavan, Meath and Mayo.
DB: When people talk of that Mayo game, they talk of Stevie Maguire roasting David Heaney, or Tom Brewster's point from the sideline, but you made a save from Brian Maloney that was the winning of it. You'd never be asked about it though.
RG: Yeah, that's the life of a goalkeeper. He was a good player, Maloney, he won a Sigerson with our Rory for Sligo IT as well.
DB: Were you fed up that it was Tyrone that you ended up playing in the end?
RG: We were over-run by a team on a mission. They were so good. After twenty minutes, the game was over, we just couldn't compete.
At half-time, we said a few things, I said we had to go out and win the second half, but everyone's heads were down. We had no answer. There probably was an element among some players that, 'we've done alright getting here'. No point dancing round that fact.
DB: You missed out on a starting place for the 2004 campaign.
RG: I played in the league games, but then dislocated my shoulder in a league game against Lamh Dearg in a club game. I got injured, Dermot Feely got an injury, Sean Boyle also and Niall Tinney and Fergal Murphy were called in.
Niall played exceptionally well and should have got an All-Star, but the selectors probably felt two was enough for Fermanagh. Make no mistake, Niall was the best goalkeeper in Ireland that year.
DB: Tony Scullion came up to take a team talk a few weeks before the Championship and only twenty players were there. There was a lot of unrest at the time?
RG: I got in trouble that year and was called up before the county board, as I expressed my opinion in an 'undiplomatic manner' to the Chairman. A lot of things were unacceptable, the behaviour of the management team was unacceptable. Two of the selectors didn't even bother going to away league matches. I paid the price when I was left off the panel the following year, with no explanation and when I asked what I needed to work on to get back in, I got no answers. It was a personality thing.
In terms of the way things are done, is there a blueprint for success? Not really, but the way things were done that year certainly wasn't. One night I drove from Belfast to training, it was meant to start at 7.30pm and at 7.35pm there were three players on the pitch. Another few came up and then the management followed. They called us in and asked, 'what will we do tonight?'
It doesn't add up and the ironic thing was, when I looked over at the other pitch at Lissan, about 30 Fermanagh hurlers were putting in a real hard session. They sent us off on a couple of laps to warm up, I done a lap, left and went down to the leisure centre to do a weights session.
DB: So where did the back-door run come out of, considering the league form was abysmal and there were so many retirements?
RG: Maybe we got a bit of luck that we were lacking in previous years, but the players were having a brilliant year.
DB: Do you feel detached a bit from that year?
RG: I probably didn't feel part of it. I was completely removed from it and what happened since, broadened that gap. 2004 doesn't mean anything to me; in terms of being a fan, yes, it was great to be in an All-Ireland semi-final, but not as a player. That's not sour grapes for being dropped, but it was the way things were being done.
I'm quite happy to talk to anyone who was involved in '04 about what went on, but at the end of the day nobody wants to hear me say it, because the average Fermanagh fan was caught up in it. I was outspoken and probably burned my bridges with the management of that time, but I can live with that, anything I ever said or done was to get the best for Fermanagh.
DB: After you got cut from the panel, St Gall's filled the gap for you though.
RG: I really enjoy it up there and we have a super team. The first year it took a while to settle, but I feel privileged to play for a club who believe in a way of football, the way it's meant to be played.
Take Sean Kelly. I would always have seen him play for Queen's, but when you play along with him, you realise that he really would get on any team in Ireland. He's the best player I have played with and I don't say that lightly.
DB: How was it when your brother Rory joined?
RG: Well, work took him up here at the time and it was well received by all the players. It's just a band of brothers in St Gall's and it's a treat to be a Gall's man.
DB: You got back onto the county panel when you called Malachy O'Rourke up and asked for a trial?
RG: Yeah, we went to the Ulster Club final that year and the night after Cross beat us, I was training with Fermanagh. I'd missed it when I wasn't there.
DB: Was the set-up to your liking when you got back in?
RG: Absolutely top-class. The attitude and approach that the management brought to weights, to preparing for games, the whole package was there.
DB: On reflection, considering how close you came to the Ulster title with Fermanagh in 2008, what could have been done differently, or does it just come down to rotten luck?
RG: The way I see it, is that we didn't win Ulster, so we could have worked harder. We could have been more honest with ourselves. But when you look back and ask yourself did we give everything we had? I think we did.
DB: Everything was thrown at the bid to win Ulster and it could seem that it was the huge effort that might have finished some players?
RG: But it always is with Fermanagh! Rightly so, there's very little respect for Fermanagh throughout Ulster, because we have won nothing. We won't get respect in my playing days, mightn't even be in my lifetime, but we have to stand up and win things. Until then, we are the underdogs.
DB: Still, you were underdogs in two massive games against Monaghan and Derry...
RG: With Monaghan, we were in Brewster Park and we have a good record there. We had an energy about us, this energy that winning teams have and we refused to be beaten.
DB: The theme that was adopted for the Derry game at half time was, 'get out, win the game and get back in and don't get caught celebrating with supporters'...
RG: It was strictly business that day in Omagh. The Ulster final wasn't mentioned, we were just focusing on the processes, what we had to do to win the next game. Kieran Shannon [Gaelic Games Editor of The Sunday Tribune and Sports Psychologist] had been in with us and used Rosa Parks as an example of how we should stand up for ourselves.
The energy was there that night and we weren't going to lose. Kieran told us the door was always shut in our face and it was time to walk through it.
DB: When you saved the penalty, you must have had a serious rush?
RG: Look, if the penalty had have went in, we were still going to beat Derry regardless. Nine times out of ten they would have beaten us, but that night, no way.
DB: How were you when Barry Owens got his fist to that ball and it flew into the net?
RG: Definitely got a bit of a kick, but then we had players around you, Peter Sherry, Ryan McCluskey, who were roaring at you to get the next ball, get the next score.
DB: What was it like back in the dressing room?
RG: I couldn't wait to get back home to be honest. It was uncle Raymond's Anniversary Mass, so none of them, Mum or Dad or any of them got to the match. I got back to auntie Mary's house and we had tea and sandwiches and sat down to watch the game on video. You have to enjoy your victories too!
DB: How did you find the build-up to the Ulster final?
RG: Malachy kept everyone grounded, nobody got carried away. Kieran [Shannon] was there and with his connections to the media, he was able to guide us and he advised us that there was no harm in talking to the media, but that if you were doing a Sunday paper, do one of them, don't do three or four. There was never a media ban or anything, but we got good advice.
It could be easy enough to get carried away. I remember in 2004 there was a media night and we were meant to be actually training. There were cameras all around us and taking up space at the cones. This was ten days before an All-Ireland semi-final!
DB: And to the game itself...
RG: Armagh were possibly out of sorts, Aaron Kernan lost balls that he would never normally have and we found that energy in our legs again. We were possibly overawed, but we were focussing on the process, trying to get a win.
DB: The missed free-kicks are what everyone talks about, though...
RG: Players put themselves in that position of taking them, they back themselves and we have to trust them. If they go over, they go over, if they don't - they don't. That's looking for excuses, really. We weren't good enough to win it.
Had we a good enough team to win it? Yes, we did, but did we deserve to win it on the day? No, we didn't have that unbreakable spirit that refuses to lose games. For a while the first day we had it and we reeled them in, but when they asked questions of us in the replay, we didn't answer them.
DB: How much of that was down to losing the figurehead of Barry Owens?
RG: Again, blame Barry, it's just another excuse. Bottom line is, we weren't good enough, we didn't deserve to win it. If you want it hard enough, you will find a way.
DB: Did that sinking feeling continue into 2009?
RG: Concerns were expressed about our attitude heading into the year, but bottom line, the players have to take huge responsibility for it. The management were as hard-working as ever, in fact in terms of looking at opposition, they even upped their workload. It came down to players. You choose your own attitude, you take ownership of yourself and too many wrong choices were made by players.
DB: So how has it been going this year, first impressions of Johnny McBride?
RG: Very hands-on, he said that he's not there to make friends and reputations will mean nothing with him. I would have great respect for him as a player and throughout Ulster he would be respected.
DB: The panel has been much-changed from last year...
RG: We are in a place where we are better to have a group of players who are giving it 100 percent. If we do everything this year, give everything we can, that's fine. If others want to commit next year, that's fine too. At the end of the day, the players that went before won nothing for Fermanagh. What have they won? We need to have people who are focussed on playing for the county and nothing else.
DB: Is Rory being seen as a 'cure-all' for the team's shooting woes?
RG: I don't know, I think there's a lot of scepticism about whether he can still perform or not. Who knows, the league will tell a tale. He's been good and poor in the Ulster club, but I certainly wouldn't be banking on one player to make the difference for us.
DB: With all the football you have to cram in, what else can you manage?
RG: A small bit of reading, any sports books really. Would you believe I even read Ashley Cole's autobiography! He's a spoon and why I bought that book I will never know...
Just what it says there, between injury and not being happy at the set up, which you couldn't blame him for.
04 was the most successful year Fermanagh have ever had, but it definitely was shambolic, just everything came together at the right time. While trainers etc all talk about being professional, I think what benefitted Fermanagh in the championship that year was almost the opposite - the relaxed attitude, and everything being a bit winged. Fermanagh never handle pressure well - that year there was no pressure at all, and the players were free to play.
Add into that that there were good players there, and also new players, and there had been decent runs in the previous few years, plus the fact that a lot of the top teams did have a bit of a dip, and everything worked out well.
Ronan cant be blamed for not being there however, I think hes always been a good servant to Fermanagh, and a sound lad too.
I've noticed lately that some of the negative atitudes towards Rory seem to be rubbing off on him - a lot of the stories about the Gallagher bros being available/unavailable and then allusions to controversial pasts, lump them in together, which is unfair.
While Rory has attracted much criticism, some of which is deserved (and much not), I'd draw a distinct line between the pair of them - Ronan deserves only credit for his role for Fermangh over the years.
1. ronan didn't seem to like mulgrew like many of the players
2. Good to see fermanagh players having a challenging training weekend
3. Coa and Belnaleck have both entered two teams this year
4. Bridge are back to senior football
5. The under 21 final is finally set for next Friday in Brookeboro between Tempo & Belcoo
Team for tomorrow night:
C Breen
M Jones, S Lyons, N Bogue
P Sherry, B Mulrone, T McElroy
J Sherry (c), R Jones
T O'Flanaghan, M Keenan, C Flaherty
A McCarron, R Carson, D Keenan
What ye make of it?
Firstly where is Shane Goan?? Is he injured??
O'Flanaghan was hauled off after 20 minutes against Offally. Can't see him starting.
Would be surprised if that team started. Surley Damien Kelly is due a game as well
what time is throw in? 7.30 catch ya's later
very poor performance, did not deserve the 2 points and on this display will be lucky to win another game in the league
Shocking stuff. Relegation fight on our hands I reckon - that was the most undeserved win I think I've ever seen, against a team that were hammered by a team that was subsequently hammered by our next opponents.
Blobby looked lively, and was our best player - should have been moved out to midfield earlier, we couldnt get anything there. Chrissy Breen is usually aware of options, but tonight noone had any interest in looking for the short one, or pretending to look for the short one to leave space behind them, so he had to hit it down the middle, where our return was brutal.
Defence all over the place - very slack, though Niall Bogue tried hard, but had just to many men to cover. Mulrone at chb didnt know what to be at, tried to play the space rather than the man, but there has to be a balance there which he never got, besides which you have to be covering the right space, which he rarely was.
Midfield - James Sherry looked good in patches, Jones kicked the ball away a lot, neither Cosgrove had any positive impact while on. Noone on our side was a presence on kick-outs.
Forwards: Blobby, on this evidence only himself and James Sherry will be starting in the summer, he looked dangerous, and was comfortable on the ball. Still over-reliant on his left though - had to turn inside to try to get a shot away and was easily blocked down. Good defenders will be well aware of this. The original goal shot was lovely, pity it hit the cross bar - very cool. The rest - ineffective. Lad flaherty hit at least one decent point though, but needs to relax a bit I reckon - was lucky didnt get the line towards the end. Thought Ryan Keenan was poor when he came on too, expected more.
The rest - ineffective at best.
well put Haranguerer.
People after were talking about the men that were missing.
Realistically all we were missing was M McGrath, E Maguire(getting married) and P Sherry(whom i assume was unfit because he was doing waterboy).Rory and Ronnie were with St Gall's.
Lyttle is gone, Quigley is gone, McDermott has retired, Brady has quit the panel.
McCluskey is injured(and may not be back because of his soccer commitments).
Owens will do well to play again.
If i was Malachy(can't believe i am typing this), i would try to get Frog back to partner Sherry at midfield.
Brady should be spoken to again as well.
Would love to know what S Goan has done wrong?? He has been one of our best defenders for the last 2 years.
In defence we were so poor. Mulrone did not mark the space or his man, and left us completely open down the middle.
The full back line was in trouble from the start because of the quality of the ball comming in from Roscommon.
They got no protection. Our work rate was poor and the swarm defence system we used seems to have been nullified by teams. They have worked out how to play against us
Up front Flaherty from Belcoo scored two nice points this week and will improve. Just needs to have a bit more confidence in his ability. Blobby is a handful at Full forward. That's about all the positives we have up there.
I did not see the point in bringing Keenan on. He spent most of the time in our full back line.
Through O'Brien showed a bit of promise when he came on. He is direct and his run led to Sherry's goal.
D Keenan was good last week but there was very little ball going to him tonight.
Our basic ball handling skills were poor. We did not execute the basics right.
Antrim could be a masacre. Lets hope that this result is a turning point of our year
Got the post-match analysis from my Dad on the phone last night. He sounded like he was nearly in tears they were that bad! Shocking stuff
Maybe I am just an optimist but I feel that all this doom and gloom and talk of relegation is way over the top. Fermanagh were poor last night, but we won so surely that is a good sign.
Sorry FermGael but Fermanagh were missing a lot of very important players last night and we all know that we do not have the resources to cope with that. Players to come into the team during the league are Shane Goan, Damian Kelly, Peter Sherry, Marty McGrath, Eamonn Maguire and Rory Gallagher. Those six players would improve the side immeasurably and I would be very hopeful that Clucker will return towards the latter part of the league as well. It is vital that he is back at CHB, that was very obvious last night.
I will be going to Belfast in 2 weeks time confident that we will improve and come away with a result. My team for the Antrim game would be......
Breen
Goan
Lyons
Bogue
McElroy
Mulrone
P Sherry (if not fit then Rory Foy)
J Sherry
Carson (it would be a shame to move him from FF but needs must)
Kelly (if fit)
R Jones
Flaherty
M Keenan
Gallagher (if available)
D Keenan
I'm afraid I'm going to have to err on the side of pescimism myself.
Last night was as bad as I can recall, the one good thing is that we will be under absolutely no illusions goin up to Casement Park in a few weeks time.
All you could do was laugh at the full time whistle. We urgently need a few leaders back in the team and all that talk of Frog is not as ridiculous as it may sound.
exiled is there any serious word of Frog returning??
I know i have not been his biggest fan but he is needed at the moment
I really haven't a clue, and I'd guess Frog himself might not even. Going by last night however, and considering we won't have Owens, Clucker or Brady for the foreseeable future, he would be a much better option.
I think O'Rourke is just persevering with these new young players though as Shane Lyons and Shane Goan spent about an hour warming up last night without ever coming on.
Maybe surviving in the Division and getting some valuable experience for these fellas is the only target for now.
Quote from: ExiledGael on February 14, 2010, 10:20:51 PM
I really haven't a clue, and I'd guess Frog himself might not even. Going by last night however, and considering we won't have Owens, Clucker or Brady for the foreseeable future, he would be a much better option.
I think O'Rourke is just persevering with these new young players though as Shane Lyons and Shane Goan spent about an hour warming up last night without ever coming on.
Maybe surviving in the Division and getting some valuable experience for these fellas is the only target for now.
It must be aright.
I'd agree that Frog would be a good addition to that team that played the other night - he'd have strengthened it greatly.
But when it comes to the summer, where would you have him? CHB is the only place where I feel he wouldnt be exposed to catastrophic levels, and Clucker will be back. As EG says, there are other players on the squad who can strengthen the team, I dont think it would be right to go begging Frog to come out of retirement (which I've no doubt he would do, because hes never let Fermanagh down, well, intentionally at least), have him play a few league games, then discard him in the summer, which is the only thing that could happen.
There are too many players being blooded at once I feel, but if we can get through the league, then we should see the benefit of it over the next few years. That must be the thinking of MOR, for I would have fancied Egon to do a job on their full fwd, put Goan in the corner, and let Bogue f**k about at CHB: woud have tightened that defence considerably.
What can the management do if the established players don't want to play. The players in the squad currently are some of the best club players in the county.
Brian Cody one said that he picked players from different clubs and brought them to the required level.
The lads I was talking about that could stregthen the team are on the panel...
Its all politics !! Where's your man quigley ? Why is he not playing in county colours ? Closest things fermanagh has to an out and out scorer.
Quote from: The Hammer on February 19, 2010, 04:20:26 PM
Its all politics !! Where's your man quigley ? Why is he not playing in county colours ? Closest things fermanagh has to an out and out scorer.
You're right, it is all politics.
And unfortunately for us, Quigley usually plays the part of Michael Stone... :D
Quote from: The Hammer on February 19, 2010, 04:20:26 PM
Its all politics !! Where's your man quigley ? Why is he not playing in county colours ? Closest things fermanagh has to an out and out scorer.
http://www.impartialreporter.com/sport/football/articles/2010/02/04/390755-whitey-turns-to-gaa-star-quigley/
Holy fcuk! :o
The Impartial spelt Roslea with one 'S'. Never thought I'd see that!
Quote from: haranguerer on February 19, 2010, 09:10:28 PM
Holy fcuk! :o
The Impartial spelt Roslea with one 'S'. Never thought I'd see that!
had to be in the soccer section not the GAA of course :D :D or maybe its just an online error
Quote from: GAAsupporter on February 26, 2010, 11:05:21 PM
Fermanagh Scor Sinsear Final 2moro night (Saturday 27th February) in Newtownbutler at 8pm.
;D
You support Fermanagh and Tyrone?! Sorry I won't be going to the Scor as it probably won't be on - you clearly are a man that shouldn't be trusted!
The county board would need to start doing its job and arrange the u21 final. This competition has turned into a joke.
Also when are the fixtures out for the senior league????
Fermanagh Scor Sinsear Winners 2010;
Irish Dancing; Newtownbutler
Solo Singing; (Jean Monaghan) Belnaleck
Instrumental Music; Derrygonnelly
Recititation; (Malachy McConnell) Belnaleck
Ballad Group; Newtownbutler
Novelty Act; Lisnaskea
Set Dancing; None
Quiz; St. Pats.
:)
Trophy for best club in Scor....... St Joseph's Ederney. ;D
Ulster Semi Final (Cavan, Monaghan and Fermanagh reps) Friday 12th March 2010 at 8pm in Stradone Community Centre Co.Cavan.
Any word of the expected team for sat night? Someone has put odds on the div 3 thread - 6/4. Going on recent performances probably not generous enough, but if Mal has Marty and one or two others back, and puts on some of those lads hes thus far kept on the bench, then that could look very generous indeed.
Malachy was quoted in the papers yesterday saying McGrath definitely would not play this weekend. There's a report in the Herald this week from a challenge game against Leitrim last weekend with a few interesting names, they played 40 minutes a half too. Won 2-15 to 2-13, not good sign for the defence against a poor Division 4 side.
Stephen Jackson; Shane Goan, Niall McGovern, Niall Bogue; Tommy McElroy, Daniel Ward, John Woods; James Sherry, Kevin Cosgrove; Ciaran Flaherty, Matty Keenan, Ryan Jones; Paul Ward, Ryan Carson, James Connolly.
James Connolly and Ryan Keenen (sub) got the goals, Niall Cunningham also scoring when he came on. Chris Breen is injured and James McGrath has withdrawn from the panel so Jackson will be in goals in Casement.
Big game after the robbery over Roscommon.
To be honest I'd be shocked if we won up there but the performance should tell a lot after the break the last few weeks.
I saw some of the under 21 challenge game between fermanagh and antrim in Belfast last night they have a good team. Forward line is very good. Jones scored two lovely points from play in the first 5 Min's and Keenan was spraying ball around the park. I think it was a draw in the end :(
Where do you start after a performance like that? :-\
Before I get into a complete state of depression I'll try and list some positives. I thought Niall Bogue, Mulrone and Tommy McElroy had good games. Ciaran McElroy looked decent when he came on in the second half. Carson was winning some good ball at full foward. The sending off changed the game. It was a woeful decision by a very poor referee. Blooby is going to be a massive loss over the next few weeks. Hopefully Daryl Keenan's injury isn't as bad as it looked. Fermanagh players are dropping like flies with injuries this season
In truth though quite a number of the Fermanagh players who played tonight are simply not up to county standard. However, this is not a criticism of them. They are decent club players who have been asked to do a job given the number of regulars we are missing. Hopefully Marty McGrath will be fit the next day, which will make midfield a lot stronger with James Sherry in good form at the moment. What's the story with Eamon Maguire, has he made himself available yet? We'll also have Rory and Ronan Gallagher back soon after St. Patrick's day.
Would there be any harm in trying to get McDermott out of retirement? We are badly missing experienced players. Even McBarron has been a loss this year. I'm not sure what the situation is with Clucker, but I hope we get to see him in a green jersey at some stage this season.
Only for the robbery against Roscommon we would be odds on for relegation, but the 2 points we have means we have a fighting chance of staying up. To think some people had us as favourites for promotion back in January! Falling down to Division 4 is simply unthinkable. Hopefully Malachy can keep the players heads up because we have a fight on our hands to stay in this division.
Quote from: FermPundit on March 06, 2010, 10:17:46 PM
Where do you start after a performance like that? :-\
Before I get into a complete state of depression I'll try and list some positives. I thought Niall Bogue, Mulrone and Tommy McElroy had good games. Ciaran McElroy looked decent when he came on in the second half. Carson was winning some good ball at full foward. The sending off changed the game. It was a woeful decision by a very poor referee. Blooby is going to be a massive loss over the next few weeks. Hopefully Daryl Keenan's injury isn't as bad as it looked. Fermanagh players are dropping like flies with injuries this season
In truth though quite a number of the Fermanagh players who played tonight are simply not up to county standard. However, this is not a criticism of them. They are decent club players who have been asked to do a job given the number of regulars we are missing. Hopefully Marty McGrath will be fit the next day, which will make midfield a lot stronger with James Sherry in good form at the moment. What's the story with Eamon Maguire, has he made himself available yet? We'll also have Rory and Ronan Gallagher back soon after St. Patrick's day.
Would there be any harm in trying to get McDermott out of retirement? We are badly missing experienced players. Even McBarron has been a loss this year. I'm not sure what the situation is with Clucker, but I hope we get to see him in a green jersey at some stage this season.
Only for the robbery against Roscommon we would be odds on for relegation, but the 2 points we have means we have a fighting chance of staying up. To think some people had us as favourites for promotion back in January! Falling down to Division 4 is simply unthinkable. Hopefully Malachy can keep the players heads up because we have a fight on our hands to stay in this division.
You got that right about the referee. Con Reynolds is from my own county and i pity any county playing with him in charge.
Where do you start after that. Firstly it was actually a better performance than against Roscommon but thats not hard I suppose. I don't blame the players or manager, the players are trying hard but some of them are just not good enough. We are a small county and we are just missing too many. With only 3 players from last year starting we can't expect too much, even the biggest counties would struggle with that turnover of players. I do however believe if we get Gallagher/Breen back in goal, clucker in defence, Marty into midfield and Eamon and Rory up front we will be a complely different outfit and back competing against anyone.
PS That was the worst refereeing performance I have ever witnessed. Piles of yellow cards and a sending off and there wasn't one bad tackle in the whole game!!!
You must have missed the St Galls club semi final...He was atrocious though. How come the standard of refs is so poor? More needs to be done to encourage retired players to take up a whistle. So much of gaelic refereeing is subjective, and past players will have much better judgement than those who took up the whixtle because they couldnt play...
How worried should we be right now?
I know it's said time and time again that we're missing half our first team at least but in the mdeium term at least there's no prospect of Mark Murphy, Mark Little, Barry Owens, Shane McCabe and Ryan McCluskey coming back let alone the others. We are now in serious danger of relegation and this Sunday's game against Louth is a must win in my opinion. Division Four would be a complete disaster - London, Kilkenny, Waterford, Carlow, Clare, Wicklow, Leitrim, all woeful and mostly nightmare trips.
Not one of our staring forwards or midfielders scored from play on Saturday and by all accounts it was a better display than against Roscommon. It doesn't say much for our season so far.
The IN today mentioned a S Ryan coming off the bench? Is that a f**k up and supposed to be Shane Lyons?
If Blobby is now suspended for a month we will really struggle. From what I've seen of the GAA and CCCC this year I have lost all faith in the disciplinary system and referees anyway so any appeal will likely be a waste of time. Daryl Keenan has a broken hand according to papers.
We certainly need Marty McGrath and Eamon Maguire back asap and forget about the experimenting at full-back IMO. Leave Lyons in there and steady the ship with a little experience at least.
There is no way that Marty McGrath will be match fit and if we learned anything from last year, he should not be back until he is fully fit.
I see from todays Irish news that Fermanagh are going to the CCC over Carson's sending off.
Could also do with getting Peter Sherry fit as well. He is missed
James Sherry also went off injured. If he does not make it for Sunday, we are in a mountain of trouble at midfield.
Fermanagh are a team in change and i honestly believe if we can stay in division 3 with this team, we will have done well.
Our remaining 2 home fixtures are huge and if we do not win both of them we will get relegated.
But the same problems remain and they were highlighted on Saturday.
We had one player who scored from play and that was our WHB Tommy McElroy.
Our forwards(with the exception of Blobby) are to small and light.
The other forwards who could do a job are with St Gall's, are unavailable for various reasons or need a good kick up the hole.
Opposing maangers have worked our system out and have worked out how to counter it.
Quote from: ExiledGael on March 08, 2010, 07:51:30 PM
How worried should we be right now?
I know it's said time and time again that we're missing half our first team at least but in the mdeium term at least there's no prospect of Mark Murphy, Mark Little, Barry Owens, Shane McCabe and Ryan McCluskey coming back let alone the others. We are now in serious danger of relegation and this Sunday's game against Louth is a must win in my opinion. Division Four would be a complete disaster - London, Kilkenny, Waterford, Carlow, Clare, Wicklow, Leitrim, all woeful and mostly nightmare trips.
Not one of our staring forwards or midfielders scored from play on Saturday and by all accounts it was a better display than against Roscommon. It doesn't say much for our season so far.
The IN today mentioned a S Ryan coming off the bench? Is that a f**k up and supposed to be Shane Lyons?
If Blobby is now suspended for a month we will really struggle. From what I've seen of the GAA and CCCC this year I have lost all faith in the disciplinary system and referees anyway so any appeal will likely be a waste of time. Daryl Keenan has a broken hand according to papers.
We certainly need Marty McGrath and Eamon Maguire back asap and forget about the experimenting at full-back IMO. Leave Lyons in there and steady the ship with a little experience at least.
I agree with your thoughts about full back. Shane Lyons needs to start. Niall McGovern is a good prospect but he's too inexperienced at this level for an important position like full back. When Lyons came on against Antrim he did quite well. We can appeal all we want but its extremely unlikely that Blooby's suspension will be lifted. When I saw the referee reaching for his pocket I just knew it was going to red, even though it hardly a yellow card offence.
With Blooby more than likely out, who do we play at full forward against Louth? Most of the forwards we do have are all of a similar size. He might go for Aidan McCarron, even though he has been disappointing so far this year. Chris O'Brien got injured in the warm up on Saturday so I don't the extent of his injury. Paul Ward or Ryan Keenan will probably start as well if Daryl Keenan is ruled out.
This year reminds of the league campaign of 2004. Things weren't looking too good back then, but everyone pulled together and we went on our best championship run. If we can get Marty McGrath, Eamon Maguire, Damien Kelly, Ryan McCluskey and the two Gallaghers back then we have a good chance of staying up. Our home games against Louth and Sligo are going to be crucial. I don't want to have to go to Cavan needing a win. We have a shocking record in Breffni Park.
Quote from: FermGael on March 08, 2010, 10:19:01 PM
There is no way that Marty McGrath will be match fit and if we learned anything from last year, he should not be back until he is fully fit.
I see from todays Irish news that Fermanagh are going to the CCC over Carson's sending off.
Could also do with getting Peter Sherry fit as well. He is missed
James Sherry also went off injured. If he does not make it for Sunday, we are in a mountain of trouble at midfield.
Fermanagh are a team in change and i honestly believe if we can stay in division 3 with this team, we will have done well.
Our remaining 2 home fixtures are huge and if we do not win both of them we will get relegated.
But the same problems remain and they were highlighted on Saturday.
We had one player who scored from play and that was our WHB Tommy McElroy.
Our forwards(with the exception of Blobby) are to small and light.
The other forwards who could do a job are with St Gall's, are unavailable for various reasons or need a good kick up the hole.
Opposing maangers have worked our system out and have worked out how to counter it.
It's interesting that you mentioned our system of play. In all the games this year we haven't really played with a blanket defence that everyone criticised us for over the years. Usually Mark Little or Ciaran McElroy would sweep up on the half back line, but I can't remember anyone fulfilling this role so far this season. Maybe the players aren't there to play this type of system.
Suppose what i meant to say is that opposing managers have worked out that we have very few players that are confident of scoring from play.
Went to the game myself on Saturday. As has already been mentioned here the referee was atrocious, one of the worst displays I have seen in years, but I suppose that is unfortunately the standard of refereeing in the country now. However, whether with a good or a bad referee, Antrim were still much the better team. They looked fitter, more mobile, hungrier and seemed to have a gameplan.
Here's how I'd rate the players:
Jackson - Not bad for his debut. Kickouts weren't mammoth but Cosgrove caught a good few around the middle so I suppose he did his job ok. Made one clanger for an easy Antrim point but was steady if not spectacular.
Bogue - Thought he did quite well. His man did little or nothing in the first half and then he did very well on Cunningham in the second half after Goan got a yellow. Kicked a few wayward balls at the end.
McGovern - For his size, he does not impose himself enough. Maybe it's a bit early to be playing him in such a key role in the side. that said, he won't be the last Full Back to struggle with Antrim's FF this year. A big man with an eye for a score. Anyone know who he is?
Goan - Struggled with Cunningham in the first half, gave away a few scorable frees.
McElroy - Usual performance. Great engine, scored a couple of nice points from play.
Mulrone - Thought he played well in the first half when he lumped a few balls in high to Blobbly. Comfortable on the ball. Struggled in the second half.
D Ward - Unspectacular, his man caused a few problems.
Sherry - Usual pretty steady game, thought he was unlucky to be taken off.
Cosgrove - Caught a few clean catches in the first half from kickouts but didn't really impose himself on the game either. Perhaps a little lightweight for midfield at this level, but then again what are the alternatives? Wouldn't giving him a game at CHF.
Flaherty - Tried very hard and probably had more possessions than any other Fermanagh player, always available for a pass and ran his socks off.
M Keenan - Anonymous both at CHF and again when moved into the two man FF line.
Jones - A big lad for his age. Showed a little inexperience at times but that will come. Moved into midfield towards the end and looked a little isolated. Not afraid to throw himself about.
Connolly - quiet, but then again the supply into him was very poor.
Blobby - Very harshly sent off. Showed well and caused a couple of problems. Ball needs to be played in early to him. If its a 50-50 ball, blobby will probably win it.
D Keenan - Battled bravely with poor supply coming into him. Has bulked up significantly and still think he will be a force to be reckoned with later in the championship, especially if he has a big FF like Blobby to play off.
What does everyone else think?
I think talk of players returning is a little futile. We need to concentrate on what we've got. How much of a difference will Eamonn Maguire really make to that forward line? It's the supply that's the main problem IMO. Is Clucker definately going to line out? With Owens' and McGrath's injury problems who knows if either have a full injury-free season in them? Does McCabe have any real interest? With the current squad, I think it could be a short summer for us.
I think you're mental if you'd like to see K Cosgrove in chf :D
Sherry was very quiet, but think this may have been due in part at least to injury, which is also why he was taken off I assume. He wouldnt be my choice for captain either, he drifts in and out of games, which is the antithesis of a captain for me...I presume Mal took that decision to try to get the extra bit out of him, but dont know how successful it'll be.
I dont think Daryl Keenan will be a force to be reckoned with later in the championship either, and not just because hes injured now.
The Antrim ff is Michael Magill. He will be useful for them in the summer, but I doubt he'll get as much space and time. They're still well worth a few quid for ulster imo.
Quote from: haranguerer on March 09, 2010, 11:27:50 AM
I think you're mental if you'd like to see K Cosgrove in chf :D
Sherry was very quiet, but think this may have been due in part at least to injury, which is also why he was taken off I assume. He wouldnt be my choice for captain either, he drifts in and out of games, which is the antithesis of a captain for me...I presume Mal took that decision to try to get the extra bit out of him, but dont know how successful it'll be.
I dont think Daryl Keenan will be a force to be reckoned with later in the championship either, and not just because hes injured now.
The Antrim ff is Michael Magill. He will be useful for them in the summer, but I doubt he'll get as much space and time. They're still well worth a few quid for ulster imo.
Yeah that's Michael Magill of Randalstown. Has played inter county hurling too. He actually played in the 2006 championship game played in a deluge at Brewster Park and scored a couple of great points that day. Definitely adds a physical presence in Antrim's FF line. One of the better footballers in the county, good to see him back.
Anyone see the Herald or Impartial this week, according to both Ryan McCluskey and Eamon Maguire have both returned to the county squad this week and are in contention to play on Sunday. Has to be good news, with any luck Marty will get some game time too. Need all the good news we can get.
Will the under 21's win on Wednesday and lift the gloom on fermanagh football?
Just back from the game and my disappointment has not faded one bit. We were totally dominated and outclassed from start to finish. A totally disheartening performance! The only positives were the return of the 3 players and the effort of Ciaran Flaherty. Martin OBrien did ok after a shaky start and looks to have potential. Hopefully when Blobby and the Gallaghers return we should improve :'( For whats its worth here are my ratings...........
Stephen Jackson 4 - Poor kickouts and indecisive with ball in hand. Gifted 2 points 2 Louth and almost a goal as well
Niall Bogue 5 - Nowhere near tight enough on his man and was caught in possession a few times
Martin OBrien 6.5 - Struggled with his man and the high ball early on but grew into the game and was decent overall
Peter Sherry 5 - Unusually for Peter he was very loose in his marking. This could be down to lack of game time. Looks to have bulked up a bit
Barry Mulrone 5.5 - Tried hard but was very slow to release the ball and ran into too many cul-de-sacs
Ryan McCluskey 6 - Great to see him back and although he did nothing wrong we will still be expecting much better later in the year
Tommy McElroy 6.5 - Mr Consistent in this team. Always good for a point and would be a massive loss if he got injured
James Sherry 6 - James was the pick of our midfielders but didn't win a clean ball until the 55 minute
Martin McGrath 5.5 - Seemed to be trying too hard, hopefully he will be more relaxed next time out. Would have walked if the ref got the right man
Ciaran Flaherty 7 - Tireless worker and hard to shrug off the ball. Perhaps he runs the ball too often and should shoot more
Matty Keenan 6 - Scored a few handy frees but never really got in the game in open play
Kevin Cosgrove 5 - Again tried hard and got a good fisted point. However it is clear that he is only a stop gap at this stage
Eamonn Maguire 6 - Got a nice point from play. It was obvious that his lack of match practice was impeding him and he will improve
Aidan McCarron 4 - Innocuous. Perhaps he didn't get the service but he was not showing for the ball enough either
Ciaran McElroy 5 - Didn't work hard enough and hesitant when in possession. Unlucky to be sent off for a second booking as ref got the wrong man
Subs
Paul Ward 6 - Looked dangerous and almost got in for a goal but didn't get the run of the ball
Daniel Ward - Not on long enough to be rated. Not County standard though
Ryan Keenan 5.5 - Tried to get the boys going but by the time he came on we were down to 14 and the heads were down
Niall McGover - Not on long enough to be rated
Disappointing result today, especially after the performance against Antrim last week. There wasn't much improvement to be honest. We now face an uphill battle to stay up and its hard to see where our next victory will come from. It looks like there is zero confidence in the team. Decision making is poor and decent players are making silly errors on a frequent basis.
Our best performers today were Ryan McCluskey, Tommy McElroy and Ciaran Flaherty. It was good to see Marty and Eamon back. They didn't have their best games today, but we need to give them time to get their match fitness back.
Our defence today was as loose as I can ever remember. The Louth forwards won every ball that came their way. I was surprised that O'Rourke didn't introduce Shane Goan or Shane Lyons at a early stage. Surely both of these players would give the full back line much needed experience?
The chances of success against Wexford next weekend looks very remote so the home game against Sligo will probably decide our fate. We should have the Gallaghers back then and the players who have just returned will have an extra game under their belts.
On current form we probably derserve to be relegated but we need to keep fighting for our Division 3 lives. Division 4 football will do us no favours next year. Hopefully Malachy O'Rourke can lift the spirits and motivate the boys for what will be an important few weeks for Fermanagh football.
Where is Mark Little? Is he not playing for Fermanagh the year?
Does anyone know when Blooby returns from suspension? Am I right in saying that he returns for the last game against Cavan?
Not sure about Blobby.
It looks like the fields of Waterford, Carlow, Leitrim, London and Kilkenny await.
Even two wins against Sligo and in Cavan might not be enough.
Didn't hear much today but a second half Bradley goal killed us, Rory Gallagher scored about six points and James Sherry was sent off. We must have the worst disciplinary record in the league. And maybe the worst team in it at the minute too.
Malachy is the right man for the job in my opinion, and I'd be happy to see him at the hilt for another few years at least. I'm thinking though that he might have learnt an awful lot from this league campaign, about management, himself. I'm going to assume the worst, just to get the post mortem in early, and it seems to me those McKenna cup wins were a bad thing - at the time I couldnt believe we were winning with the teams that were being put out, obviously though, I was delighted to see it.
Now I wonder however if it gave us all, especially Malachy, a little too much faith in unproven players. There has, of course, been a lot of players unavailable, but there were experienced players such as Shane Lyons and Shane Goan, who were available, but werent played. Instead there were vastly inexperienced teams put out, and unfortunately exposed. One or two players can have a big impact on games. With inexperience, when things go wrong,heads drop easier, and its harder to turn defeats round; it seems this is what is happening. Probably too late, we have players available, and our strongest team out, but I have to say I think Malachy displayed bad judgement in his selections earleir in the league.
Thoughts?
Ulster U21FC: Goals see Derry through
25 March 2010
Derry 5-9
Fermanagh 2-12
Late goals from Benny Heron and Aaron Kerrigan were enough to see Derry through to the semi-finals of the Cadbury's Ulster Under 21 FC at the expense of a brave Fermanagh side last night at Celtic Park.
The visitors had fought back after two early goals from Derry, which saw Kerrigan netting inside the first two minutes and Lee Moore latching onto Caolan O'Boyle's pass and smashing in a wonderful finish.
Fermanagh responded with points from Daryl Keenan, Chris O'Brien (2) and Kevin Connelly to cut the gap to four points, before the O'Boyle-Moore combination struck again to leave the ball nestling in the Erne net and give Derry a 3-3 to 0-4 advantage.
On that score-line Derry looked to be cruising, but within five minutes of the second-half the Ernesiders struck for goal after a mix up at the back from the hosts allowed O'Brien to tuck the ball to the net.
Seven minutes later and Fermanagh were level when the lethal O'Brien collected a pass from Connelly, turned and buried the ball past the Derry goalkeeper to put the scores at 2-8 to 3-5.
Ryan Jones put them in front moments later with a point, but Derry had a big finish in them and in the last eight minutes they raised the green flag twice with Heron and then Kerrigan finally killing off the Fermanagh challenge.
Hogandstand
They sounderd like they played well enough. If the defence tightened up they may have won.
Many people think that a competitive club championship is the breading ground for a county team, because of the small numbers of teams in fermanagh should a donegal championship system be put in place.
Two legs and a third leg if teams win one game each. have straight semis and a final.
Your thoughts
Was at the match last night. They just could not handle the Derry full forward line. Foy did not look match fit at all and is not a natural full back.
Cox played well at Center half back, as did young O'Brien from Newtown at WHB.
Midfield played well.
Fermanagh forwards were very lively and kicked some great scores. Did not have some of the hang ups that there senior colleagues seem to suffer from.
Chris O'Brien scored a great goal and needs to be given a chance with the senior team.
Tomas Corrigan also showed up well. Keenan played well.
The team showed great heart. They were 8 or 9 points behind at half time but came back to lead by a point with 15 minutes to go.
Man getting sent off just left them with too much to do in the last 15. Derry played the extra man very well and sprung some good men of the bench. Fermanagh just did not have that depth in their panel
If they would have cut out the silly goals, they would have won.
That was painful to watch today. As a loyal Fermanagh supporter its hard to accept that we'll playing division 4 football next season. A National league division one semi final, an all Ireland semi final and an Ulster final appearance seem like a life time ago. Whether we want to accept it or not we deserve to be relegated. When was the last time that we conceded 3-15 at home? Our defence used to be the foundation on which we built our team, but this year we have been as poor as I can remember at the back. Our decision making at times is naive and we turn the ball over at crucial times, usually when we look like we're getting back into games.
Bar the Roscommon game, which was a robbery by the way, we haven't really looked like winning any game. The league table doesn't lie and unfortunately we've been the poorest team in this division. Injuries and retirements have hit us hard and too many inexperienced players have been thrown in at the same time.
Where do we go from here? I'm not really sure to be honest. Confidence is at an all time low and I don't have much hope for the Ulster Championship. Given that we play Cavan in June I still hope we go to Breffni Park in two weeks time and put in a spirited performance.
Fermanagh is a proud football county and as we enjoyed the days out in Croke Park we must continue to support the team in the next few years. I suppose if you are to rebuild a team, Division 4 is the place to do it.
Keep the faith. Fear Manach Abu!
Absolutely shocking 1st half performance! All 6 backs were nowhere near close enough to the Sligo forwards; we couldn't win a ball in midfield and the forwards were almost completely static. It was hard to watch our best passer, Ryan McCluskey, receive the ball and then look up to play the ball forward but the forwards were justing standing looking back at him.The 2nd half was a bit of an improvement with the players at least showing a bit of heart. Rory Gallagher did well when moved to CHF and Sherry and Cosgrove competed better in midfield. At one stage we had battled back to 3 points behind but the game was killed off by a very soft goal and then a breakaway goal after we were cheaply dispossessed. Chris OBrien looks to have potential and should start next time out. It is essential that we put in a performance in the final game to at least lift the players spirits. Will Blobby be back? What was wrong with Marty today? How far is Barry Owens from recovery?
Quote from: Emmett on March 28, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Absolutely shocking 1st half performance! All 6 backs were nowhere near close enough to the Sligo forwards; we couldn't win a ball in midfield and the forwards were almost completely static. It was hard to watch our best passer, Ryan McCluskey, receive the ball and then look up to play the ball forward but the forwards were justing standing looking back at him.The 2nd half was a bit of an improvement with the players at least showing a bit of heart. Rory Gallagher did well when moved to CHF and Sherry and Cosgrove competed better in midfield. At one stage we had battled back to 3 points behind but the game was killed off by a very soft goal and then a breakaway goal after we were cheaply dispossessed. Chris OBrien looks to have potential and should start next time out. It is essential that we put in a performance in the final game to at least lift the players spirits. Will Blobby be back? What was wrong with Marty today? How far is Barry Owens from recovery?
Blooby received a 4 week suspension against Antrim so he's available for the Cavan match. Who knows if he'll play. I suppose it all depends on how we approach the game. Malachy O'Rourke might as well put out the u21's
Marty McGrath was injured today. Not sure what was wrong with him.
I haven't a clue how Barry Owen's recovery is going, but I would be surprised if we see him in a green jersey this summer.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/8592037.stm
O Rourke talking about fermanagh's relegation from D3
We are back to being the laughing stock of Ulster football now lads :-[
I think the most depressing thing is that i cannot see any light at the end of the tunnel.
We have been known for being a strong defensive unit but that seems now to be gone.
We are leaking scores for fun and have got into the losing habit.
James Sherry from all accounts had a great game but he cannot do it all.
No point looking for the missing men(Murphy, Little, Quigley).They have made there choices and are gone.
A county with our playing pool cannot afford to lose men of their quality but it was their choice. The management had no say in it.
Would love to see Owens playing again but being realistic he has had some very serious injuries.
We face a Cavan team in the championship who have 2 gifted corner forwads in Mackey and Johnston and i can see them having a field day.
Morale within the camp looks to be at a low and i suppose the only way should be up from this point.
The only problem is that i think that we have not reached the bottom yet.
I have heard people stating that O'Rourke should go.
Utter rubbish in my opinion.
He has done a great job with a limited pool of players.
What worries me the most is if he stands aside, then who replaces him??
We could be stuck in division 4 for a while if Malachy does not stay on for another year
I'd be confident Malachy would stay for a good while yet. Certainly hope he does - hes the right man for the job.
I'd hope so too but after the summer it's hard to see the league of 2011 and trips to Leitrim, London, Kilkenny and Carlow appealing much to him, especially if the disgruntled clowns keep up their yapping.
Still don't know what to say after Sunday's game, things can only get better I suppose. May as well play just as bad against Cavan in the last game and hope then to catch them on the hop in the big one come summer.
On the plus side there seems to be talk that Seanie Johnston is really struggling on Cavan boards, hope the rumours are true. Him and Mackey would destroy our defence as it is at present.
On an unrelated topic, there have been some fluffies of snow here in Cavan town. Has there been any snow in Enniskillen? We are playing in the U21s there on Wednesday night.
At least two inches in parts, unreal again. Match would have to be doubtful.
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I'd hope so too but after the summer it's hard to see the league of 2011 and trips to Leitrim, London, Kilkenny and Carlow appealing much to him, especially if the disgruntled clowns keep up their yapping.
Still don't know what to say after Sunday's game, things can only get better I suppose. May as well play just as bad against Cavan in the last game and hope then to catch them on the hop in the big one come summer.
On the plus side there seems to be talk that Seanie Johnston is really struggling on Cavan boards, hope the rumours are true. Him and Mackey would destroy our defence as it is at present.
Nice.
I hope they're true too. And if they were playing Antrim, so would you.
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I'd hope so too but after the summer it's hard to see the league of 2011 and trips to Leitrim, London, Kilkenny and Carlow appealing much to him, especially if the disgruntled clowns keep up their yapping.
Still don't know what to say after Sunday's game, things can only get better I suppose. May as well play just as bad against Cavan in the last game and hope then to catch them on the hop in the big one come summer.
On the plus side there seems to be talk that Seanie Johnston is really struggling on Cavan boards, hope the rumours are true. Him and Mackey would destroy our defence as it is at present.
Nice.
I hope they're true too. And if they were playing Antrim, so would you.
Our boys had him in their back pockets last June ;)
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 30, 2010, 09:47:31 AM
On an unrelated topic, there have been some fluffies of snow here in Cavan town. Has there been any snow in Enniskillen? We are playing in the U21s there on Wednesday night.
Snow is beginning to lie in town centre, forecast is for it to get worse tonight.
The Gaels were playing the rock Tyrone on sunday, who won?
i read in the Irish news that cieran gourley hurt his knee again during the game against the Gaels, 5 years after the last time, suspected acl injury.
Newtown beat Dromore at the weekend, Dromore were only missing the 3 Tyrone players
Aghyarn beat devenish last week but devenish were missing 5 county players.
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I'd hope so too but after the summer it's hard to see the league of 2011 and trips to Leitrim, London, Kilkenny and Carlow appealing much to him, especially if the disgruntled clowns keep up their yapping.
Still don't know what to say after Sunday's game, things can only get better I suppose. May as well play just as bad against Cavan in the last game and hope then to catch them on the hop in the big one come summer.
On the plus side there seems to be talk that Seanie Johnston is really struggling on Cavan boards, hope the rumours are true. Him and Mackey would destroy our defence as it is at present.
Nice.
I hope they're true too. And if they were playing Antrim, so would you.
You stay classy.
And the best of luck to Stevie O'Neill and all injured Tyrone players, in their recovery.
Is it the time of the month for you HS?
second thread tonight which you are acting "bitchy" in.
Exiled Gael was not revelling in Jelly being hurt,rather his potential missing of the Games against our neighbours in the near future.
You need to stop looking for problems,where there are none. ::)
Get a grip of yourself FFS.
We're struggling at the minute and already relegated, the one aim for the season is a Championship run, even a win.
We play Cavan first up and thier best forward is a doubt. I would rather not face him.
Unlike your pathetic analogy I don't wish that he never plays again. Owens has been fighting to save his career for a few years now, Johnston is struggling with an arm injury.
Will the game be on in Enniskillen tonight?
A report from our correspondant on the scene...
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2010, 12:03:16 AM
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Quote from: ExiledGael on March 29, 2010, 08:45:44 PM
I'd hope so too but after the summer it's hard to see the league of 2011 and trips to Leitrim, London, Kilkenny and Carlow appealing much to him, especially if the disgruntled clowns keep up their yapping.
Still don't know what to say after Sunday's game, things can only get better I suppose. May as well play just as bad against Cavan in the last game and hope then to catch them on the hop in the big one come summer.
On the plus side there seems to be talk that Seanie Johnston is really struggling on Cavan boards, hope the rumours are true. Him and Mackey would destroy our defence as it is at present.
Nice.
I hope they're true too. And if they were playing Antrim, so would you.
You stay classy.
And the best of luck to Stevie O'Neill and all injured Tyrone players, in their recovery.
Exiled Gael was not revelling in Jelly being hurt,rather his potential missing of the Games against our neighbours in the near future.
He wants him to be injured longer. Not a nice comment to be honest.
For example, "I hope Barry Owens never plays football again so it'll be handier for us any time we meet them in the future".
Sorry, but I find it classless.
Classless is acting outraged and indignant in an attempt to come across as some sort of protector of morality, when it seems that in actual fact that is very far from the truth.
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 31, 2010, 10:20:34 AM
Will the game be on in Enniskillen tonight?
A report from our correspondant on the scene...
Denn, I drove past Brewster Pk @ 8:30am and there was what looked like a pretty thick covering of snow. It is getting a bit warmer though and the snow is disappearing from the roof of the building opposite me...
Abit of positivity about Fermanagh....
Derrygonnelly won an Ulster Title in Scor Sinsear in Instrumental Music!! ;D
The football etc might not be going so well, but this is the 2nd Ulster Scor Title a Fermanagh club have won in 2 years. St.Josephs Novelty Act last year in Scor na nOg, and now Derrygonnelly instrumentalists this year in Scor Sinsear! ;D
Credit is needed for these people! :-\
:)
Cavan missed out on promotion from Allianz NFL Division Three despite beating derby rivals Fermanagh at Breffni Park on Sunday.
It was tight first half with Cavan's Michael Brennan wasting an excellent chance for a goal.
The hosts led 0-6 to 0-5 at the break and Cian Mackey almost netted for Cavan in the second half when his shot hit the crossbar.
Cavan pulled clear late on with Ciaran Galligan's point sealing the victory.
Cavan: F Reilly, E McPhillips, T Corr, M Hannon, D O'Dowd, E McGuigan, M Johnston, N Walsh, L Mulvey, M Cahill, G Smith, M McKeever, C Mackey, M Brennan, R Cullivan.
Fermanagh: C Breen, S Goan, N McGovern, J Woods, D Ward, R McCluskey, T McElroy, J Sherry, K Cosgrove, P Gormley, R Carson, D Keenan, P Ward, N Cunningham, J Connolly.
First round of the league this weekend. Looking forward to seeing the week one results.
SFL 1
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Tempo Derrygonnelly Tempo 18/04/2010 15:30 Ferghal Cleary
Belcoo Roslea Belcoo 18/04/2010 15:30 Enda McBrien
Erne Gaels Devenish Erne Gaels 18/04/2010 15:30 Martin Higgins
Newtownbutler Lisnaskea Newtownbutler 18/04/2010 15:30 John Mohan
Teemore St. Josephs Teemore 18/04/2010 15:30 Paul Campbell
SFL 2
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Derrylin Coa Derrylin 18/04/2010 15:30 Tiernach Mahon
Aughadrumasee Brookeboro Aughadrumsee 18/04/2010 15:30 Eugene McDonagh
Irvinestown Enniskillen Irvinestown 18/04/2010 15:30 Noel Davis
Kinawley St. Patricks Kinawley 18/04/2010 15:30 John McGauran
Mark Little is back with Skea and expected to make a return to the county panel
I seen yesterday there was a job ad for a hurling regional development officer for Fermanagh/Cavan with the Ulster Council. How big is the hurling scene in Fermanagh?
Quote from: unitedireland on April 16, 2010, 10:11:05 AM
Mark Little is back with Skea and expected to make a return to the county panel
And why would you say that??
anything to do with who is current employer is??
Quote from: the colonel on April 16, 2010, 10:52:38 AM
I seen yesterday there was a job ad for a hurling regional development officer for Fermanagh/Cavan with the Ulster Council. How big is the hurling scene in Fermanagh?
not very big, there's about 4 clubs (I think who have underage teams)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermanagh_Senior_Hurling_Championship
Quote from: FermGael on April 16, 2010, 12:26:39 PM
Quote from: unitedireland on April 16, 2010, 10:11:05 AM
Mark Little is back with Skea and expected to make a return to the county panel
And why would you say that??
anything to do with who is current employer is??
Yes i believe so
Quote from: unitedireland on April 16, 2010, 02:01:55 PM
Quote from: FermGael on April 16, 2010, 12:26:39 PM
Quote from: unitedireland on April 16, 2010, 10:11:05 AM
Mark Little is back with Skea and expected to make a return to the county panel
And why would you say that??
anything to do with who is current employer is??
Yes i believe so
who does he work with, Quinn?
not quinn.
SFL Division One
Tempo 0-9 0-5 Derrygonnelly
Erne Gaels 1-7 1-10 Devenish
Belcoo 3-15 1-14 Roslea
Newtown 1-9 1-9 Lisnaskea
Teemore 1-9 0-9 Ederney
SFL Division Two
Derrylin 2-9 0-14 Coa
Irvinestown 1-8 1-9 Enniskillen
Brookeboro 1-11 0-8 Aughdrumsee
Kinawley 0-8 0-9 St. Patrick's
This weekends senior league fixtures
SFL 1
Roslea v Tempo
St. Josephs v Newtownbutler
Lisnaskea v Erne Gaels
Devenish v Belcoo
Teemore v Derrygonnelly
SFL 2
Brookeboro v Derrylin
Maguiresbridge v Kinawley
St. Patricks v Irvinestown
Enniskillen v Aughadrumsee
Would just like to say CONGRATULATIONS to Derrygonnelly instrumental group who won the ALL IRELAND SCOR SINSIR yesterday in Killarney!!! ;D ;D ;D
A brilliant achievement and wonderful success for the club!!! ;D ;D
Good to see an All Ireland back in Fermanagh!!! ;D
SFL Division One
Lisnaskea 0-14 1-3 Erne Gaels
Derrygonnelly 0-9 0-6 Teemore
Roslea 2-13 1-6 Tempo
SFL Division Two
Brookeboro 0-19 0-8 Derrylin
St. Patricks 2-15 1-10 Irvinestown
Enniskillen 1-23 0-3 Aughadrumasee
Maguiresbridge 0-7 0-17 Kinawley
hoganstand.com
Results for sunday 25th april 2010
SFLeague div. 1
Lisnaskea 0-14 1-3 Erne Gaels
Derrygonnelly 0-9 0-6 Teemore
Roslea L - L Tempo
St. Josephs 1-13 3-14Newtownbutler
Devenish 1-9 0-13 Belcoo
SFLeague div. 2
Brookeboro 0-19 0-8 Derrylin
Maguiresbridge 0-7 0-17 Kinawley
St. Patricks 2-15 1-10 Irvinestown
Enniskillen 1-23 0-3 Aughadrumasee
Belcoo seem to be going well.
Any truth in the rumours that Eamon Maguire has left the Fermanagh panel?
Lot of rumours doing the rounds at the moment.
Seems that Quigley and McCabe may have been called up.
Have not heard about Maguire though. Hope not.
Lyttle played 10 minutes for Skea at the weekend
was the Mark Lyttle thing a John Terry / Wayne Bridge situtaion? :-\
Impartial today saying that Quigley, lyttle and Cox form Belcoo have been called up.
Also say that Maguire has not been back at training since the end of the league.
LITTLE! Hate that Y.
He's still playing for Skea juniors so must be well away from match fitness but he'll get there and will be a good addition. Quigley is injured at the minute with a hamstring problem but has been at training sessions and hopefully he'll get his head into it now. Both St Pat's players Cosgrove and Maguire have gone but hopefully there can be some sort of resolution for Maguire at least.
McCabe would be another interesting one so hopefully we can get something going before the Cavan game.
Any ideas why Maguire and Cosgrove left the panel??
Not worth going into here but they obviously weren't that happy.
maguire seems to be still on the panel.
don't like being pessimistic but hardly worth getting too excited about the championship campaign this season unless O'Rourke can work some kind of miracle, it will be an early through the back door for us :-\
Quote from: ExiledGael on April 29, 2010, 04:39:04 PM
LITTLE! Hate that Y.
He's still playing for Skea juniors so must be well away from match fitness but he'll get there and will be a good addition. Quigley is injured at the minute with a hamstring problem but has been at training sessions and hopefully he'll get his head into it now. Both St Pat's players Cosgrove and Maguire have gone but hopefully there can be some sort of resolution for Maguire at least.
McCabe would be another interesting one so hopefully we can get something going before the Cavan game.
By choice rather than lack of match fitness/practice from what I hear.
He'll be an excellent addition.
Quote from: sammymaguire on April 30, 2010, 09:38:52 AM
don't like being pessimistic but hardly worth getting too excited about the championship campaign this season unless O'Rourke can work some kind of miracle, it will be an early through the back door for us :-\
There's no pressure on Fermanagh to do anything this summer so I suppose it might work in our advantage. A positive performance against Cavan and a win or two in the qualifiers would be nice. Division 4 isn't going to be easy next year so a slightly encouraging summer is about all we can hope for.
wat club does kevin connoly play for an at wat age level?
Quote from: sammymaguire on April 28, 2010, 11:44:02 AM
was the Mark Lyttle thing a John Terry / Wayne Bridge situtaion? :-\
more wayne bridge / Roberto Manchini
Quote from: The Hammer on May 06, 2010, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on April 28, 2010, 11:44:02 AM
was the Mark Lyttle thing a John Terry / Wayne Bridge situtaion? :-\
more wayne bridge / Roberto Manchini
I heard it was a Wayne Bridge / John Terry thing. Thats the way the cookie crumbles.
What you mean by Wayne bridge / Roberto Manchini?
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on May 06, 2010, 05:56:06 PM
Quote from: The Hammer on May 06, 2010, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on April 28, 2010, 11:44:02 AM
was the Mark Lyttle thing a John Terry / Wayne Bridge situtaion? :-\
more wayne bridge / Roberto Manchini
I heard it was a Wayne Bridge / John Terry thing. Thats the way the cookie crumbles.
What you mean by Wayne bridge / Roberto Manchini?
i only heard tru 3rd party info
SFL 1
Lisnaskea 0-11 0-11 Tempo
Devenish 1-9 0-5 Derrygonnelly
Newtownbutler 0-15 0-11 Erne Gaels
St. Josephs 1-9 1-14 Belcoo
SFL 2
Enniskillen 3-11 1-9 Coa
Kinawley 1-10 0-8 Irvinestown
Roslea beat Teemore 1-8 to 0-4 (I think) Seamie Quigley with 1-04
Good sign for Quigley, he had been injured recently.
Probably just that stupid optimism that comes around at the start of every Championship but I'm starting to think we could cause an upset in Cavan.
At the back of the fermanagh herald last week it pictured Barry Owens with the other fermanagh players at Brewster park. Does that mean Barry is back training with fermanagh or just there to support michelle and sinn fein.
SFL Division 1
Roslea 1-11 1-5 Devenish
Tempo 0-14 0-4 St. Josephs
Belcoo 1-12 0-10 Newtownbutler
Teemore 0-11 0-5 Erne Gaels
Lisnaskea 0-8 1-15 Derrygonnelly
SFL Divison 2
Brookeboro 0-7 1-11 Enniskillen
Coa 1-7 2-18 St. Patrick's
Derrylin 0-10 0-13 Maguiresbridge
Aughadrumsee 1-7 1-8 Kinawley
SFL Div 1
Team P W L D Pts
Belcoo 5 5 0 0 10
N'butler 5 3 1 1 7
Roslea 4 3 1 0 6
Tempo 5 2 1 2 6
Devenish 5 2 2 1 5
D'gonnelly 4 2 2 0 4
Teemore 5 2 3 0 4
Lisnaskea 5 1 2 2 4
St.Josephs 5 1 4 0 2
Erne Gaels 5 0 5 0 0
SFL Div 2
Team P W L D Pts
Enniskillen 5 5 0 0 10
St.Patricks 5 5 0 0 10
Kinawley 4 3 1 0 6
B'boro 4 2 2 0 4
M'bridge 4 2 2 0 4
I'town 4 1 3 0 2
Coa 4 1 3 0 2
Derrylin 5 1 4 0 2
A'drumsee 5 0 5 0 0
Has expected Belcoo have made an impressive start to the league campaign. Erne Gaels and Ederney are struggling badly at the foot of the table and unless they pick up a few wins soon they'll both be in serious relegation trouble at this early stage of the league campaign.
In Division 2, Enniskillen and St Patrick's are coasting their way to promotion. Kinawley may have a say in proceedings but really the two clubs that went down last year look too strong for this level of football.
Division One
Newtownbutler 1-7 1-10 Tempo
St. Josephs 0-12 1-12 Derrygonnelly
Lisnaskea 0-12 0-9 Roslea
Devenish 2-12 1-8 Teemore
Division Two
Enniskillen 0-17 0-13 St. Patricks
Brookeboro 2-12 1-12 Maguiresbridge
Coa 2-11 1-11 Kinawley
Derrylin 1-7 1-13 Irvinestown
SFL Div 1
Team P W L D Pts
Belcoo 6 6 0 0 12
Tempo 6 3 1 2 8
D'nish 6 3 2 1 7
N.butler 6 3 2 1 7
Roslea 5 3 2 0 6
D'glly 5 3 2 0 6
Skea 6 2 2 2 6
T'more 6 2 4 0 4
St.Joes 6 1 5 0 2
E Gaels 6 0 6 0 0
SFL Div 2
Team P W L D Pts
E'killen 6 6 0 0 12
St.Pats 6 5 1 0 10
Kin'ley 5 3 2 0 6
B'boro 5 3 2 0 6
I'town 5 2 3 0 4
M'bridge 5 2 3 0 4
Coa 5 2 3 0 4
Derrylin 6 1 5 0 2
A'd'see 5 0 5 0 0
May as well keep these results ticking over. Little apparently impressing for Skea so that's a positive for the Cavan game but Peter Sherry broke a few fingers in the warm up to friendly defeat by Antrim last week and will miss Cavan game. Think we lost that warm-up game by four points. Paul Ward, Chris O'Brien and Brian Cox all played.
when is the next round of SFL Div 1 fixtures?
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8721590.stm
Decent highlights of the Fermanagh minors, Quigley looked good early on.
SFL Division 1
Derrygonnelly 0-13 1-8 Tempo
Roslea 0-10 1-11 Belcoo
Devenish 1-9 0-4 Erne Gaels
St. Josephs 0-14 1-10 Teemore
SFL Division 2
St. Patrick's 2-13 1-7 Brookeboro
Kinawley beat Derrylin tonight by 6 points in SFL Division 2
Well done and as Oisin McConville said it was a good substitution bring the Big Unit on.
The point Quigley scored from out on the sideline just inside the 45 was as good as you will ever see.
Easily as good as Fitzgeralds against the Dubs in Thurles.
If it were Gooch,one of the Brogans,Mulligan or O Neil who scored it,they would be talking about it for the next 5 years.
Congratulations lads.
Fully deserved win,and hopefully you do the business again in two weeks time.
as posted on another site-well done to fermanagh yesterday who showed more steel and readiness for the battle than cavan and some superb score taking in the game-well done!!
Congrats, great win. Fermanagh had too much experience missing for the league and their results weren't a true reflection of their ability when at full tilt.
Forwards out in front and took most of their scores.
Quigley was class but is a big unit and couldnt see him fit to last a whole game so may be best bringing him own again as a sub the next day. Would lift the whole team and crowd and scare the shite out of monaghan. Whether or not he plays as well again the fact monaghan would be so concerned about him when he comes on will leave space for scores for others.
Serious chance of another Ulster final.
Cant see past Tyrone winning Ulster easily but would be great and the best atmosphere ever at a game if Down beat Tyrone and leave a Ferm/Mon v Down final as both teams/fans would really feel they could beat each other and the atmosphere would be class
SFL Division 1
Devenish 0-11 0-7 Tempo
St. Josephs 2-8 0-6 Erne Gaels
Newtownbutler 1-15 1-12 Teemore
Roslea 1-11 0-8 Harps
SFL Division 2
Derrylin 3-6 1-13 Brookeboro
Kinawley 0-5 0-7 Maguiresbridge
Aughadrumasee 0-6 1-18 Enniskillen
Irvinestown 1-11 3-14 St. Patrick's
SFL 1
Team P W L D P+ P- P+/- Pts
Belcoo 7 7 0 0 122 77 45 14
Devenish 8 5 2 1 97 75 22 11
Newtownbutler 7 4 2 1 100 92 8 9
Roslea 7 4 3 0 94 79 15 8
Derrygonnelly 7 4 3 0 73 72 1 8
Tempo 8 3 3 2 85 84 1 8
St. Josephs 8 3 5 0 93 108 -15 6
Lisnaskea 6 2 2 2 65 83 -18 6
Teemore 8 2 6 0 82 96 -14 4
Erne Gaels 8 0 8 0 58 103 -45 0
SFL 2
Team P W L D P+ P- P+/- Pts
Enniskillen 7 7 0 0 124 55 69 14
St. Patricks 8 7 1 0 149 98 51 14
Kinawley 7 4 3 0 85 69 16 8
Brookeboro 7 4 3 0 94 96 -2 8
Maguiresbridge 6 3 3 0 63 72 -9 6
Irvinestown 6 2 4 0 75 85 -10 4
Coa 5 2 3 0 70 86 -16 4
Derrylin 8 1 7 0 87 126 -39 2
Aughadrumasee 6 0 6 0 48 108 -60 0
Fermanagh 3.11, Donegal 0.8 ,in Ulster U21B hurling final played tonight in Healy Park.
I see we will have a Celebrity Bainisteoir 3 representative.
St Molaise's lrvinestown.
Funny one. They are not a good team and when this show is on, alot of there players will be back on the soccer trail.
Quote from: FermGael on June 24, 2010, 12:54:29 PM
I see we will have a Celebrity Bainisteoir 3 representative.
St Molaise's lrvinestown.
Funny one. They are not a good team and when this show is on, alot of there players will be back on the soccer trail.
any idea who their coach is? its normally someone from the same area ain't it
Fr Brian i fear
Are the Mc Dermott brother from Donagh who have been in the news recently any relation to Shane Mc Dermott who captained Fermanagh in the past few years?
What relevance would that have to anything?
After yesterdays drubbing it is hard to see anything but an easy Armagh win in this one. I just hope we don't go out without a fight. I would like to see Malachy return to the half back line that helped us reach the Ulster Final in 2008. The majority of the new lads drafted into the panel this year are great triers but unfortunately just not good enough at this level or at any county level (as proven in the NFL). The team I would like to see start is..........
Ronan Gallagher
John Woods
Martin O'Brien
Niall Bogue
Damian Kelly
Ryan McCluskey
Tommy McElroy
Martin McGrath
James Sherry
Mark Little
Rory Gallagher
Darryl Keenan
Seamus Quigley
Ryan Carson
Chris O'Brien
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Well as a Fermanagh supporter, that performance yesterday was a complete disaster and to see any kind of result v Armagh is beyond us. Look how both teams have progressed since they last played in 08!! Monaghan Divison1 and 2nd Ulster Final in 3 years, Fermanagh Div 4 and 2 championship wins in 2 years (last year v Down and this year against a mediocre Cavan side). Yet this is exactly the same Monaghan team that played in 08.
I cant figure out why fermanagh did not employ their usual sweeper system that has served them well since 08??? would this not suggest the reason why fermanagh conceded 21 points yesterday???? The new players in have not produced the goods to be fair and to say they did the business v Cavan is a false indicator of where they are and fermanagh are in the rankings. Winning championship games in semi and final stages is where you earn your corn.
Emmett you suggest returning to the same half back line as the ulster final...I think they should return to most of the team that reached that final. The players available in the squad at minute such P. Sherry in at corner back, D. Kelly Half Back, Ryan Keenan and C McElroy into the forward line. even throw cosgrove in middle and or play as half forward coming into middle of pitch. Little does not deserve his place on current form along with a few other forwards after yesterdays display. I defo think John Woods deserves his chance as he did not put a foot wrong in any games I seen of him in Mc Kenna and I heard he was good in final league game v Cavan marking Mackey
Time to play Armagh
Gallagher
P. Sherry
Lyons
bogue
kelly
mccluskey
t mcelroy
mcgrath
J. sherry
cosgrove
r gallagher
little/mcelroy
d.keenan
quigley/carson
r.keenan
SFL 1
Devenish 1-6 1-8 Roslea
St. Josephs 0-11 0-10 Tempo
Erne Gaels 1-13 1-9 Teemore
Newtown 2-3 0-9 Belcoo
Harps 0-9 0-10 Lisnaskea
SFL 2
Aughadrumasee 2-12 5-7 Derrylin
Kinawley 1-11 1-12 Brookeboro
Maguiresbridge 2-7 1-13 Enniskillen
Irvinestown - Coa - Not Played
SFL 1
Team P W L D P+ P- P+/- Pts
Belcoo 9 7 1 1 139 98 41 15
Devenish 9 5 3 1 106 86 20 11
Roslea 8 5 3 0 105 88 17 10
Newtownbutler 8 4 2 2 109 101 8 10
Lisnaskea 8 4 2 2 87 100 -13 10
Derrygonnelly 8 4 4 0 82 82 0 8
Tempo 9 3 4 2 95 95 0 8
St. Josephs 9 4 5 0 104 118 -14 8
Teemore 9 2 7 0 94 112 -18 4
Erne Gaels 9 1 8 0 74 115 -41 2
SFL 2
Team P W L D P+ P- P+/- Pts
Enniskillen 8 8 0 0 140 68 72 16
St. Patricks 8 7 1 0 149 98 51 14
Brookeboro 8 5 3 0 109 110 -1 10
Kinawley 8 4 4 0 99 84 15 8
Irvinestown 7 3 4 0 75 85 -10 6
Maguiresbridge 8 3 5 0 76 88 -12 6
Coa 6 3 3 0 70 86 -16 6
Derrylin 9 2 7 0 109 144 -35 4
Aughadrumasee 8 0 8 0 66 130 -64 0
(http://i29.tinypic.com/4q20lc.jpg)
SFL 1
Devenish 1-15 0-13 Lisnaskea
Teemore 0-12 0-16 Belcoo
Roslea 1-15 1-13 St. Josephs
Tempo 0-16 0-7 Erne Gaels
SFL 2
St. Patricks 7-16 1-8 Maguiresbridge
Enniskillen 0-3 0-10 Kinawley
Brookeboro 1-19 1-12 Irvinestown
Aughdrumsee defeated Belcoo, 1.11 , to 1.7 ,in the Grade 1 minor championship final last night at Enniskillen .
SFL 1
Team P W L D P+ P- P+/- Pts
Belcoo 10 8 1 1 155 110 45 17
Devenish 10 6 3 1 124 99 25 13
Roslea 9 6 3 0 123 104 19 12
Lisnaskea 10 5 3 2 110 122 -12 12
Tempo 10 4 4 2 111 102 9 10
Newtownbutler 9 4 3 2 113 111 2 10
Derrygonnelly 8 4 4 0 82 82 0 8
St. Josephs 10 4 6 0 120 136 -16 8
Teemore 10 2 8 0 106 128 -22 4
Erne Gaels 10 1 9 0 81 131 -50 2
SFL 2
Team P W L D P+ P- P+/- Pts
St. Patricks 9 8 1 0 186 109 77 16
Enniskillen 9 8 1 0 143 78 65 16
Brookeboro 9 6 3 0 131 125 6 12
Kinawley 9 5 4 0 109 87 22 10
Coa 8 5 3 0 104 109 -5 10
Irvinestown 9 3 6 0 101 120 -19 6
Maguiresbridge 9 3 6 0 87 125 -38 6
Derrylin 9 2 7 0 109 144 -35 4
Aughadrumasee 9 0 9 0 78 151 -73 0
O'Rourke steps down, heard it was on the cards :o
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2010/0722/orourkem_fermanagh.html
Malachy O'Rourke has stepped down as manager of the Fermanagh senior footballers.
O'Rourke spent three years in charge of the Ernesiders, leading them to an Ulster final appearance in 2008 where they lost to Armagh after a replay.
The Orchard county also put pay to their championship hopes this year with a victory in the qualifiers, this coming after Fermanagh were relegated to Division 4 of the Allianz League.
The Fermanagh management committee will be meeting shortly to put in place a process to appoint a new manager of the county senior team.
Any ideas who should take up the reigns?
Why are you hiding this away on the Local GAA section?
its local to me!! - wrong spot, where should it be?? :P
Just add it to the New Manager Thread I started ... keep it all cosy!
Suppose we can't be surprised at this news. Think he done very well under the circumstances in his three years but it's hard to see where we go to next.
Some people are glad to see the back of O'Rourke but I can't say I'm among them. Maybe from a freshness point of view it will help though. Hopefully the next manager does as well in his first year as the last two have done, All-Ireland semi-final in 04 under Mulgrew and then Ulster final in 2008 under O'Rourke.
I think that shows what's possible when morale and belief is high but we certainly need everyone fit, well and hungry next season. (great to see Owens back in club action on a related note)
Outside manager seems unlikely, but who is there even? Don't think anyone would come in and risk their reputation but from the inside the players and potential is still there so hope someone really wants the job.
Sid Mulrone has been talked about in places and he has experience in senior county backroom teams and county minor level but hasn't had much success.
If it were me I'd make a beeline straight for Peter McGinnity. Hugely respected figure across the county and has managed to get Roslea flying high in recent years, dealing with a few 'troubled' characters at that.
He'd have little trouble keeping Quigley focused (maybe bring his young brother along too from minor), and would be well known in Enniskillen and beyond from St Michael's days so should help keep the county together. We're not coming down with candidates that's for sure.
Ronan Gallagher, Barry Owens, Ryan McCluskey, Tommy McElroy, James Sherry, Marty McGrath, Eamon Maguire, Mark Little, Ryan Carson and Seamie Quigley should, when fit, form the basis of a really decent team and are all still 29 or under (bar Gallagher in goals).
Anyway I'm sure it won't be sorted til the Autumn but let's hope someone sees something there to work on.
Malachy has done very well under trying circumstances, and deserves gratitude.
As for his successor, Sid Mulrone can't be dismissed on the basis of having had little success with underage fermanagh teams; they even more than seniors rely on resources which we just dont have. A very good manager, and should certainly be in the running.
McGinnity is all those things you mention, (but didnt he take Roslea down as well as up?? ;)) I'm not sure if he'd take it though, its a big comitment and I think he has had health problems...
I remember Phil Courtney was in the running the last time, and then there are others who may fancy it, a pairing of two who may not be seen to have the credentials on their own could also be a possible.
I'm not sure there are many outside the county who would take it, generally there'd need to at least be an interest in the county. Isn't Brian McIvor married to a fermanagh woman? ;)
McIvor maybe not a bad shout at all. Think he has a real point to prove at county level and is a good manager but it's just a question of whether or not he fancies it.
Don't think Mulrone has ever won anything at club level either but he's exactly the type of man I can see the county board going for.
1st Round SFC
Enniskillen Gaels 2-08 Kinawley 1-06
Quote from: FermGael on August 06, 2010, 09:58:01 PM
1st Round SFC
Enniskillen Gaels 2-08 Kinawley 1-06
Much Kinawley nettle at this game????
Great nettle about Kinawley, i love a bit of Kinawley nettle
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on August 06, 2010, 10:14:14 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 06, 2010, 09:58:01 PM
1st Round SFC
Enniskillen Gaels 2-08 Kinawley 1-06
Much Kinawley nettle at this game????
Great nettle about Kinawley, i love a bit of Kinawley nettle
Yes. Lots.
Fermanagh SFC
Derrygonnelly 1-8 1-9 Newtown
Fermanagh SFC
Belcoo 0-4 2-13 Roslea
surprisingly easy for Roslea ???
what is the Q-F line up?
Unreal. Roslea are the team to stop.
Half time in the other game
Teemore 1-07 Tempo 0-07
The QF Final line ups are
St Patricks vs St Joseph's
Devenish vs Newtown
Enniskillen Gaels vs Erne Gaels
Roslea vs Winners of Teemore/Tempo
According to the Fermanagh website the winners of the top two games will play in one semi final and the winners of the bottom two fixtures will play in the other semi final. Not sure if thats the case though.
Teemore 2-13 Tempo 0-11
some interesting looking games in a fortnight
how come Skea were not in the senior championship and Kinawley were?
Kinawley won the Intermediate last year so were automatically entered into this years SFC. Only the team that finishes first in Div 2 from the previous year is guaranteed a place in the SFC. As Erne Gaels finished above Skea in the table they automatically qualified for the Championship while Skea are into the IFC. I think Skea won the Div 2 league final last year but the qualification depends on the finishing position in the regulation season not the actual final winners.
The rule means that either the Gaels or St Pat's will miss out on the Championship next year.
2009 Fermanagh senior football champions Derryconnelly crash out of this years competition
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/2010/08/08/2009-fermanagh-senior-football-champions-derryconnelly-crash-out-of-this-years-competition/
thought i call into brewster today and watch the games, wished i had went to charlies instead
Cheers Jimmy, far from straightforward... Looks pretty open this year, does any bookie have odds? Roslea favs, especially after beating the county's in form team Belcoo but then there could be another 3/4 clubs who will quietly fancy their chances, Newtown, Teemore and Enniskillen should all have something to say about where the title goes this year
Candidates not exactly beating the door down.
Darren Chapman and John O'Neill are believed to be among the list of nominees for the vacant Fermanagh football manager's post.
County secretary Tom Boyle would only say that he "had received a number of nominations" before last Monday's deadline, but it's understood that Chapman and O'Neill are on the shortlist.
Chapman is currently managing Mullahoran in Cavan and guided Newtownbutler to a Fermanagh SFC title three years ago. He was also in charge of the Fermanagh under 21s this year.
O'Neill, meanwhile, served as a selector during Charlie Mulgrew's reign and was also in charge of the county minors in 2003 when they reached the Ulster final.
"I have been asked to inform the county management committee about any nominations before anybody else is informed," Boyle said.
Malachy O'Rourke's successor is expected to be appointed within the next month.
Roslea 0-13 Teemore 0-07
Devenish 2-08 NTB 1-07
Enniskillen 1-14 Erne Gaels 2-09
St Josephs 0-09 St Pats 0-13
Leaves the semis looking like
Enniskillen v Roslea
St Patricks v Devenish
I'd fancy a Devenish vs Roslea final at the minute. Probably the two strongest teams on paper. Were you at any of the games over the weekend Sammy? Didn't make it to any myself.
Nope, was not around home last weekend but should be at both semi's with a bit of luck and gotta agree, looks like a Devenish v Roslea final but you never know...
Would you believe its Fermanagh championship semi finals this weekend.
Kevin Courtney Car Sales IFC semi-final at 6.30pm
Brookeborough v Irvinestown @ Brewster Park
Quinn Insurance SFC semi-final at 8.00pm
Devenish v St.Patrick's @ Brewster Park
Sunday 12th September
Kevin Courtney Car Sales IFC semi-final at 2.00pm
Coa v Lisnaskea @ Brewster Park
Quinn Insurance SFC semi-final at 3.30pm
Roslea v Enniskillen @ Brewster Park
Would go for Brookeborough and Lisnaskea in the intermediate.
Really is a joke that a team that is currently 4th in the first division is in the intermediate semi while 2 teams in the second division are in the semi finals of the Senior.
In the senior, its hard to see past Devenish and Roslea as other's have said.
But St Pat's and Enniskillen both have a core of senior players who know how to win championship games.
You never know, there could be life in the old dogs yet
St pats beat devenish.The all division 2 championship final is still on.In the intermediate irvinstown beat brookeborough.
Am I right in saying that either St Pat's or Enniskillen will be playing in the Intermediate Championship next year?
As it stands yes. Only the team that finish's first in division 2 is in the senior shampionship but.....
(a) If Lisnaskea win the intermediate, then the 2nd placed team also gets in
(b) St Pat's are in the final, Enniskillen in the semi. If either win's the senior championship and finish's second in division 2 then they will also get into the senior championship.
Full scores from last night:
Senior Football Championship
St. Patricks 1-10 0-11 Devenish
Intermediate Football Championship
Irvinestown 1-10 0-7 Brookeboro
Devenish only scored 2 points in the second half and conceded a soft goal in the first half.
Very naive tactics from their management team. Left Eamon Maguire on his own, one on one, in the second half.
He had oceans of room and was the difference.
Very surprising result in the intermediate.
Brookeboro had been going well this year in divison 2, ran the gaels to a point last week.
Fair play to Irvinstown, could hopefully be the tonic the club needs.
Roslea beat Enniskillen by about 4/5 points. Roslea on top for the first 20 mins or so and then Enniskillen had the game level with about 15mins left but a Quigley free and then a goal put Roslea in control. Enniskillen lost the plot after that and had Mickey Kerr, James McKenna and Aiden McCarron all sent off. Roslea number 11 also got the line.
Any truth in the rumour that Andrew Maxwell is to be the next Fermanagh manager?
Quote from: Orangemac on September 21, 2010, 10:44:17 PM
Any truth in the rumour that Andrew Maxwell is to be the next Fermanagh manager?
yeah actually ::) ::) ::)
Lisnaskea won the Intermediate Football Championship this evening.
Lisnaskea 2-12 0-9 Irvinestown
Could we worth a wee punt for the Ulster.
Have been goign well in division 1.
Are certainly not an intermediate team.
A side effect of Lisnaskea's win is that both promoted teams from division 2 will compete in the senior football championship next year. Should take a wee bit of the heat out of the St Pat's vs Enniskillen league game.
Anyone at the final?
Roslea 3-04 St Pats 0-08 poor game. Roslea won't go any further than the first round of the Ulster club but nice to see them pick up first title in 24 years
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Lisnaskea playing the Ulster Club this weekend? Do they have much of a chnace in the Intermediate Ulster championship does anyone reckon? Is Mark little back playing for them did I hear?
What Fermanagh team won the Junior championship this year?
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on October 28, 2010, 10:11:11 AM
Lisnaskea playing the Ulster Club this weekend? Do they have much of a chnace in the Intermediate Ulster championship does anyone reckon? Is Mark little back playing for them did I hear?
What Fermanagh team won the Junior championship this year?
Lisnaskea aren't a bad side. Made the Div 1 league semi-finals this year, and yes, Little is back playing for them. Good outside bet for Ulster.
There was no Junior Championship, but Maguiresbridge are the junior representatives. Not sure what chances they would have.
Quote from: tintin25 on October 28, 2010, 12:53:12 PM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on October 28, 2010, 10:11:11 AM
Lisnaskea playing the Ulster Club this weekend? Do they have much of a chnace in the Intermediate Ulster championship does anyone reckon? Is Mark little back playing for them did I hear?
What Fermanagh team won the Junior championship this year?
Lisnaskea aren't a bad side. Made the Div 1 league semi-finals this year, and yes, Little is back playing for them. Good outside bet for Ulster.
There was no Junior Championship, but Maguiresbridge are the junior representatives. Not sure what chances they would have.
Lisnaskea may be worth a few pound then in the Ulster championship, they have that Kille fella also that was on the county squad last year, seen him play against brookeborough in the championship at tempo last year and he was the best player on show.
Devenish defeated belcoo,2.9,to0.7 in theleague division semi final at enniskillen last night.
SFL Division 2 final
Enniskillen 2-4 1-9 St. Patrick's
Quote from: FermPundit on November 07, 2010, 04:32:02 PM
SFL Division 2 final
Enniskillen 2-4 1-9 St. Patrick's
And skea beat Roslea by a point in the other SFL Div 1 semi. Well done Skea Emmetts
;D
Any word on Eamonn Maguire??
Was stretched off at half time yesterday. Looked very serious
Didn't hear anything Fermgael.
Anyone know if there's any new faces on the training panel, or old faces returning?
Skea win the Ulster Intermediate. When was the last time a Fermanagh club team won an Ulster title?
Fair play to the Emmetts
Never been done!
Lisnaskea (Fermanagh) 0-13
Doohamlet (Monaghan) 1-7
This final, which had been postponed twice, lived up to all expectations with Lisnaskea producing a turbo-charged finish to win a rare Ulster title for Fermanagh. Doohamlet trailed early on, but a 29th minute goal by Niall Jim Connolly gave them an unlikely 1-3 to 0-4 lead at the interval.
They remained in front until the closing stages when Lisnaskea scored five unanswered points to win a first ever provincial club title for the Erne County. The pick of their late scores was a brilliant 56th minute sideline free from Daniel Kille.
From Hoganstand. Can see Woods nailing down a half back slot this year given his form and club. STill the makings of a decent team there.
Former All-Star full back Barry Owens has been included in new Fermanagh manager John O'Neill's McKenna Cup panel.
While O'Neill has yet to officially announce his squad, it's believed that plenty of new faces are included, while Owens is set to play a full part in the pre-season competition after being sidelined for most of the last three years due to injury and heart problems.
Owens, who has undergone heart surgery, has been joined by his Teemore clubman Hugh Brady, who wasn't involved last year after playing at full back in 2009.
County champions Roslea are represented by the three Quigley brothers, Seamus, Conor and Sean, as well as Liam Lynch, Kevin Cosgrove and Niall Cassidy, while Devenish trio Marty O'Brien and John and Terry O'Flanagan have also received call-ups.
Newly-crowned Ulster intermediate football champions Lisnaskea will have Danny Killen, Niall McElroy, Stevie Carter and Johnny Woods involved, while new recruits Fergal Murphy and James McGrath will vie with Chris Breen for the goalkeeping position.
Eamon Maguire (cruciate ligament) and former All-Star midfielder Marty McGrath (tendonitis in the knee) weren't considered due to injury, while wing back Danny Ward has emigrated to Australia.
Barry Owens is named as Fermanagh captain
Barry Owens will lead Fermanagh into McKenna Cup action on Saturday
Injury-plagued defender Barry Owens has been named as Fermanagh's captain for the Barratt McKenna Cup campaign.
The two-times All Star winner played in the Erne county's challenge match against Monaghan on Monday and reported no ill effects.
Owens, a lengthy absentee from the county squad because of injury, returned to action with his Teemore club last summer.
Fermanagh's first match is on Saturday night against UUJ at Brewster Park.
The other two teams in Section A are holders Donegal and Ulster champions Tyrone who clash at Healy Park on Sunday in a repeat of the 2010 final.
New Fermanagh manager John O'Neill has drafted in a lot of new faces and is keen for them to get experience ahead of the National League which starts in February.
Great to have Owens fit again and great to beat the neighbours, even if it was a challenge game against a second string Monaghan side.
Any idea on what team Fermanagh had out?
Didn't hear line out
Still no word of a full McKenna cup panel yet which is a bit strange. How many are playing for the colleges this year ?
For the colleges there's Ryan Jones, Matthew Jackson, Brian Cox and Niall McGovern that I can think of. Neither Ryan nor Daryl Keenan are out with the county. Tomas Corrigan is training with them and I think he impressed in a recent challenge game against Devenish. Apparently Marty O'Brien was excellent against Monaghan in a midfield role, albeit against a very experimental Monaghan side. Hopefully Fermanagh can get out of Division 4 but I'm not overly optimistic at the moment. I've heard a few names on the panel and it wouldn't inspire me with confidence but I suppose there's no harm in giving boys a runout in the McKenna cup, and hopefully some can make the step up.
Quote from: Jimmyjimson on January 05, 2011, 11:07:27 AM
Still no word of a full McKenna cup panel yet which is a bit strange. How many are playing for the colleges this year ?
Pretty sure there was a panel named in the Irish News yesterday. Herald has the details from challenge game at the weekend, Fermanagh beat Monaghan 0-11 0-6. Team was
Fergal Murphy
Niall Bogue Barry Owens Michael Jones
Barry Mulrone Hugh Brady John Woods
Niall McGovern Shane Lyons
Paul McCusker Niall Cassidy Ciaran Flaherty
Kevin Cosgrove Daniel Kille Mark Little
Subs: Richie O'Callaghan, Marty O'Brien, Liam Lynch, Chris Breen, James Connolly and Mark McGovern.
Kille seemed to do a lot of the scoring with Owens and Brady very steady in defence, Mark McGovern also scored (who is he?) John Woods Mark Little and Flaherty all also on scoresheet.
Mark McGovern is a 22 year old from Belcoo, he was at college in Liverpool for a couple of years. Normally plays full back for Belcoo.
Anyone at the game?
Home game in Cavan :o no, who won?
Ended a draw Sammy
Quote from: Fermanaghandsam on January 23, 2011, 06:08:07 PM
Ended a draw Sammy
Good not to be beat. Is that their opening game this year?
A decent account from another forum;
Fermanagh 0-15 1-12 UUJ
Good work out for 1st game. It was played at a high tempo and was a rather enjoyable game.
My ratings:
J McGrath - 7 - Good kick outs all day and hadn't much chance for the goal.
N Bogue - 6.5 - Made some attacking runs in 2nd half however he had a difficult opening period defensively.
B Owens - 6.5 - Struggled to handle Mattie Donnelly in 1st half, come into it as the game progressed, great to see him back in the green jersey.
M Jones - 6.5 - Given the run around in first half but stuck to his task and had the upper hand on him man in 2nd half.
C Quigley(0-1) - 7.5 - Some great running on debut, a very able ball carrier, finished a neat move with a score in 1st half.
B Mulrone - 6.5 - Quiet game, didn't get on much ball.
K Cosgrove - 7 - Won some kickouts and ran his socks off but kicked two bad wides from scoreable positions in 1st half.
J Sherry (0-1) - 8 - Fielded some great kickouts and put in a good shift considering papers said he only rejoined the panel this week.
H Brady (0-1) - 7.5 - Worked well in midfield with Sherry, won plenty of breaks and kicked wonderful equaliser in added time.
P McGrath (0-2) - 7 - Effort and work rate can't be faulted, chipped in with two scores from play and fed good ball into forward line. Solid debut.
N Cassidy - 6.5 - Another hard working debutant, produced one of the passes of the day in the 1st half, replaced by Flaherty
T McElroy (0-2) - 7.5 - Done what we have come to expect over the years, constantly running back and forward, chipped in with two scores from play
P Ward (0-2) - 7 - Showed very well for ball and won it in 1st half, had a quiet second period when brought out to half forward line.
T Corrigan (0-5 includes 0-3 from frees) - 7.5 - Great understanding with Ward in opening period, won plenty of ball and showed well, kicked some good scores. Was quiet in 2nd half but he'll be happy with his debut.
P McCusker - 6.5 - Had a relatively quiet game but linked play well in first half, replaced by O'Flanagan early in 2nd.
Subs:
J O'Flanagan (for McCusker) - 6 - Never really got much ball
C Flaherty (0-1) (for Cassidy) - 7.5 - Made a big impact when introduced. Seen plenty of ball, won a few breaks and kicked a good score.
J Connolly (for Quigley) - not on long enough to be rated
All in all this was a decent outing by the County side, four players made debuts with three of them getting on the scoresheet. 15points is a good return considering we have struggled in the last few years to reach double figures. Still the Lisnaskea boys and P. Sherry, S. Lyons, Martin & Chris O'Brien along with the two Quigleys to comeback. Tyrone will prove a big test on Wednesday but its early days and i'm optimistic following yesterdays game that we can achieve the main goal this year and get out of Division 4 this season.
Fear Manach abú
Any views on Charlie mulgrew as a manager. Heard he is goin to take over a club in Tyrone.
Good luck to Lisnaskea Emmets in their All Ireland Final tonight
Congrats to Skea
What a weekend for Fermanagh. Brilliant night for Lisnaskea in Croke Park and a very impressive result in Carlow today. Sets the season off nicely and hopefully we make a real promotion push. Doubt there were many that travelled down but heard James Sherry got the goal and we won by seven. What a servant he's turned out to be. Should get a few additions from the Skea squad and have a morale boosting league.
The hurlers beat Cavan today by 36 points too.
Well done to Skea last night on their All Ireland title win. It really does get the season off to a positive start. I didn't get to the game in Carlow today but given the inexperienced side that line out it was a very pleasing victory. I heard we were poor enough in the first half but there was a big improvement after the break. If we can beat Longford under lights this Saturday night it'll be a great start to the league. With Wicklow and Roscommon in the comng weeks the next month will give us a good indication of the current squad's potential.
very bad result tonight lads at home to Longford :-\ could turn into a tough div 4 league campaign
Quote from: sammymaguire on February 19, 2011, 08:57:13 PM
very bad result tonight lads at home to Longford :-\ could turn into a tough div 4 league campaign
I've been to some bad games in my time, but that could have been the worst Fermanagh peformance I have seen in 20 years. 33 mins to register a score in the second half is just not good enough. Bad passing, no running off the ball, basketball being played on the half back line, completely cleaned out at midfield and no one showing in the forward line.
Unless some big changes are made there is no chance of us getting out of this division. If I'm honest I think we'll be here for quite a few years to come :-\
Quote from: FermPundit on February 19, 2011, 10:01:58 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on February 19, 2011, 08:57:13 PM
very bad result tonight lads at home to Longford :-\ could turn into a tough div 4 league campaign
I've been to some bad games in my time, but that could have been the worst Fermanagh peformance I have seen in 20 years. 33 mins to register a score in the second half is just not good enough. Bad passing, no running off the ball, basketball being played on the half back line, completely cleaned out at midfield and no one showing in the forward line.
Unless some big changes are made there is no chance of us getting out of this division. If I'm honest I think we'll be here for quite a few years to come :-\
Certainly the worst Fermanagh performance I can ever remember seeing. Cleaned out almost everywhere, the only positives would be McGrath in goals, Owens getting through another game, Conor Quigley and the fact we've hit rock bottom. It just can't get any worse than that and the players and management know what they're up against. Not even going to go into the display of certain players because they were all kinds of useless and a number of them not capable of county football.
We were a point up at half-time but Longford slightly the better side. Wasn't overly impressed by them, we just made it impossible for them to lose. But for a few soft frees we would have finished with three points.
Only one point from play at home to Longford, only one point (free) in second half, at least four of our six forwards replaced, in some cases by defenders, Owens moved to midfield, honestly can't recall us winning a ball at midfield second half. Just brutal.
Heard O'Neill on radio before the game asked about the players not in panel, Quigley, the Keenans and Blobby. His response was that they couldn't offer the commitment required so they will move on without them. Last night might change that.
I arrived five minutes late and didn't see us scoring from play, we had no clue going forward. Kille might give us something but we haven't the resources to be planning without a number of our top players. The rest of the squad might not like it but we need Quigley in some capacity. Tomas Corrigan, Paul Ward, Paul McGrath, Mark Little, Niall Cassidy, all to small and not capable of holding off a challenge or breaking a tackle, even catching a high ball. You can play three maybe even four of those smaller players but we need some strength or a physical presence up there, anyone to even withstand a good shoulder or throw themselves about. Jesus the amount of times we spilled the ball in a tackle or lost it with a poor hand pass when under pressure.
Derry in Celtic Park in the first round of the Championship could be a bloodbath.
I think Fermanagh GAA folk have another stretch of Division 4 doldrums ahead for a few years to come, talent, ability and skill just simply not there. With the experienced players of the 04-09 campaigns well gone now there is a grim future ahead watching that kind of shite last night against the likes of Carlow, Clare, Leitrim etc not a whole lot of point on getting angry at players or management, Fermanagh has been lucky to achieve what they have with the well deserved All Stars and the near misses in the Ulster Final and All Ireland semi v Mayo which both went to replays but those heady days are well and truly gone (but not forgotten) but we were punching above our weight for those years and they will be very hard to replicate with our very small pick of players
Last nights performance was brutal! The worst display from a Fermanagh team that I have ever seen and through the years there have been some bad ones! McGrath in goals and Barry Owens were good, Micky Jones stood strong in the second half, no more positives to take from the game! Wing Half backs were very poor and are obviously not county standard. Niall Bogue looked unfit and struggled. Barry Mulrone is a good runner but is too small and not dominant enough to play CHB but who else can we play there in McCluskeys absence?? James Sherry was shockingly bad, the worst I have ever seen him play. Hughie Brady only marginally better. All 6 of the forward line are too small and will lose out under the high ball and also in most physical challenges. This leaves us with no out-ball and as seen in the second half we will struggle to get out of our own half. Mark Little is a classy player who we can build our forward line around, he is not a regular scorer but can be a link between midfield and attack. We need to find suitable players to support him. The Quigley situation has to be resolved ASAP, it was disappointing to see him in the stand while we were struggling so badly. For what it is worth here is the team I would like to see start against Wicklow next weekend.........
McGrath
P Sherry
Owens
Jones (O'Brien if fit)
T McElroy
Brady
Woods
J Sherry (can't play as badly again)
Lyons (if not fit then Brian Og Maguire deserves a chance)
Little
Kille
P McGrath
Ward
Quigley (if only)
C OBrien
We are so short on county standard players! We badly need to get Damian Kelly, Daryll Keenan, Ryan Jones, Seamie Quigley, Ryan Carson and Rory Foy back in the panel in order to save our season.
Whilst I agree with most of the comments, the thing that annoyed me the most last night was the lack of commitment and heart from the Fermanagh players. At no stage in the second half did anyone put their hand up and try make a difference. Maybe I'm being too harsh but that's what it looked like to me. I know John O'Neill's hands are tied, but there seemed to be no game plan last night, no real structure of play. It just seemed like 15 guys were sent out to give it a go.
The Wicklow game is now massive. If we don't win next Sunday then promotion will probably be over. I was speaking to someone this morning who said if there was a Division 5, Fermanagh would be probably be in it.
Quote from: Emmett on February 20, 2011, 01:09:04 PM
Last nights performance was brutal! The worst display from a Fermanagh team that I have ever seen and through the years there have been some bad ones! McGrath in goals and Barry Owens were good, Micky Jones stood strong in the second half, no more positives to take from the game! Wing Half backs were very poor and are obviously not county standard. Niall Bogue looked unfit and struggled. Barry Mulrone is a good runner but is too small and not dominant enough to play CHB but who else can we play there in McCluskeys absence?? James Sherry was shockingly bad, the worst I have ever seen him play. Hughie Brady only marginally better. All 6 of the forward line are too small and will lose out under the high ball and also in most physical challenges. This leaves us with no out-ball and as seen in the second half we will struggle to get out of our own half. Mark Little is a classy player who we can build our forward line around, he is not a regular scorer but can be a link between midfield and attack. We need to find suitable players to support him. The Quigley situation has to be resolved ASAP, it was disappointing to see him in the stand while we were struggling so badly. For what it is worth here is the team I would like to see start against Wicklow next weekend.........
McGrath
P Sherry
Owens
Jones (O'Brien if fit)
T McElroy
Brady
Woods
J Sherry (can't play as badly again)
Lyons (if not fit then Brian Og Maguire deserves a chance)
Little
Kille
P McGrath
Ward
Quigley (if only)
C OBrien
We are so short on county standard players! We badly need to get Damian Kelly, Daryll Keenan, Ryan Jones, Seamie Quigley, Ryan Carson and Rory Foy back in the panel in order to save our season.
From what I hear there is no sign of the Tempo boys making themselves available anytime soon. I would play Hugh Brady at CHB. Barry Mulrone seems to be everywhere else bar CHB and teams just run through us too easily. Shane Lyons had a cast on his hand last night so I think so he won't be back for a while anyway. James Sherry needs a midfield partner. He's probably fed up doing the work of two men.
I know we're short of numbers, but we're better than last night. The Fermanagh players have a point to prove this week. Let's hope we see a much imrpoved performance against Wicklow.
Lads i have no idea where to begin.
The worse i have ever seen
I do not think we have hit rock bottom.
There could be worse to come.
There were to many players who should be on the county panel watching the game from the stands.
People are saying that they are not committed. If they did not give a stuff, why would so many of them be watching the game. A few bridges HAVE to be rebuilt.
Does anybody actually know why the Tempo players have withdrew there services??
Bar Fudge(J McGrath) and the full back line, the rest of the Fermanagh team was very poor.
Why was Bogue taken off??
The problems were in the half back/half forward line, not full back line.
Longford played a sweeper and fermanagh proceeded to put every ball on top of him.
Why did we not push a man up and make him defend.
Instead he stood there hovering everything up.
Mulrone is far too loose to play CHB. He neither holds the middle or marks his man.
Hugh Brady is a Defender, not a midfielder. That was highlighted yesterday.
Where are R Jones(Derrygonnelly), K Cosgrove(Roslea), Cosgrove(St Pat's), B Cox(Belcoo)
We are not good enough to leave men like Tommy McElroy( who is a back not a forward) and Peter Sherry on the bench.
Why was Cecil not togged out?? He could have least hit some of those frees.
Why did Fla from Belcoo not get a run??
I could go on and i think i have.
I think we could be back to being the whipping boys of Ulster football
After lasts nights performance or lack off, it might be time to resurrect this thread.
What was the team? Who killed off their chances of an intercounty career?
Its a worrying result from the scoreline, and from previous posts it seems like the performance was worse still?
Quote from: Fermanaghandsam on February 20, 2011, 05:56:37 PM
After lasts nights performance or lack off, it might be time to resurrect this thread.
give the man a chance ::)
McGrath
Bogue
Owens
Jones
Quigley
Mulrone
McCusker
Sherry
Brady
Little
Cassidy
P McGrath
P Ward
T Corrigan
T O'Flanagan
Not going to start slagging individuals but McGrath in nets was about the only one to improve his reputation. The reaction will be interesting next Sunday against Wicklow.
From reading this thread and other forums I don't think I have ever seen so much criticism of the county team. Sometimes there are differing opinions from people from different clubs but this weekend was unique. There was universal agreement that Saturday night's performance was a complete and utter shambles. We have hit rock bottom and I just hope we can't sink much further. I think we need to ask the following questions:
1. Is John O'Neill still the right man for the job? The lack of tactics and the inability to make changes early on was worrying
2. What to do with the Tempo boys. This situation needs to be addressed quickly. We need everyone on board if things are to improve.
3. Should Seamus Quigley be brought back into the squad? We need a presence in the forward line, a target man for our smaller fowards. If not Quigley then what has happened to Ryan Carson? Was he even asked out this year or has he just withdrawn his services?
4. Do we need to get some of the older players back? Shane Goan, Shane McDermott and Ryan McCluskey spring to mind
5. Maybe we just need to accept that we are now a Division 4 side and we should limit our expectations. I don't think we are but the question still needs to be asked.
6. There seemed to be a real lack of effort from everyone on Saturday night. There was no passion or pride in the jersey. Any thoughts on why this was the case?
Discuss.
Quote from: FermPundit on February 21, 2011, 07:14:06 PM
From reading this thread and other forums I don't think I have ever seen so much criticism of the county team. Sometimes there are differing opinions from people from different clubs but this weekend was unique. There was universal agreement that Saturday night's performance was a complete and utter shambles. We have hit rock bottom and I just hope we can't sink much further. I think we need to ask the following questions:
1. Is John O'Neill still the right man for the job? The lack of tactics and the inability to make changes early on was worrying
2. What to do with the Tempo boys. This situation needs to be addressed quickly. We need everyone on board if things are to improve.
3. Should Seamus Quigley be brought back into the squad? We need a presence in the forward line, a target man for our smaller fowards. If not Quigley then what has happened to Ryan Carson? Was he even asked out this year or has he just withdrawn his services?
4. Do we need to get some of the older players back? Shane Goan, Shane McDermott and Ryan McCluskey spring to mind
5. Maybe we just need to accept that we are now a Division 4 side and we should limit our expectations. I don't think we are but the question still needs to be asked.
6. There seemed to be a real lack of effort from everyone on Saturday night. There was no passion or pride in the jersey. Any thoughts on why this was the case?
Discuss.
1. O'Neill deserves time and will get it, you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear and all that.
2. Know nothing of this dispute but it needs sorted and the county board should take a lead in sorting it out.
3. Yes he should be in the squad but just how much of his messing do/can you tolerate. If he plays, given his application to training etc, others have threatened to walk, maybe we should let them.
Blobby cannot commit to inter-county football and training, doesn't have the time and that's been made clear to O'Neill.
4. Yes we need a few experienced heads back, but a number have been asked repeatedly and won't. Division Four and trips to Carlow and Carrick on Shannon not so appealing. Maybe that will change in a few months when Clucker's soccer season ends and Eamon and Marty's injuries clear up but who knows.
5. No doubt we've gone downhill badly but on paper I think we're a division three side, maybe division two if we had everyone out and dedicated. That's not going to happen though.
6. Only the players can answer this but Sunday should tell a lot about the squad and morale.
I have held off for a few days now, I was trying to digest that display and finally I am able to post on it. First responding to the questions asked
Quote from: FermPundit on February 21, 2011, 07:14:06 PM
From reading this thread and other forums I don't think I have ever seen so much criticism of the county team. Sometimes there are differing opinions from people from different clubs but this weekend was unique. There was universal agreement that Saturday night's performance was a complete and utter shambles. We have hit rock bottom and I just hope we can't sink much further. I think we need to ask the following questions:
1. Is John O'Neill still the right man for the job? The lack of tactics and the inability to make changes early on was worrying
2. What to do with the Tempo boys. This situation needs to be addressed quickly. We need everyone on board if things are to improve.
3. Should Seamus Quigley be brought back into the squad? We need a presence in the forward line, a target man for our smaller fowards. If not Quigley then what has happened to Ryan Carson? Was he even asked out this year or has he just withdrawn his services?
4. Do we need to get some of the older players back? Shane Goan, Shane McDermott and Ryan McCluskey spring to mind
5. Maybe we just need to accept that we are now a Division 4 side and we should limit our expectations. I don't think we are but the question still needs to be asked.
6. There seemed to be a real lack of effort from everyone on Saturday night. There was no passion or pride in the jersey. Any thoughts on why this was the case?
Discuss.
1) I personally don't think he is the man for the job, but I suppose he does deserve more time.
2) I wouldn't go begging the Tempo men back, it should be an honour to play for your county, these men should not need to be chased. Anyhow, would they improve the team that much, only Kelly and young Keenan would get on. But it would be great to have all players available.
3) By all accounts Seamus Q wants to play this year but was dropped. I would do everything possible to get him back. Exiled Gael is right about Blobby I believe.
4) The older players would help, but they are all defenders which we are prob OK with what we have. However I would have Frog back for midfield.
5) We should be better than div4, we were in an Ulster final only a few years ago, no way should we be in our current state.
6) I don't know if there was a lack of effect, I think it was a lack of ability and tactics.
Now onto my own views on the match. I actually think our keeper and full back line were OK, however from here forward was awful. The half back line were all over the place, and we badly need a centre half back that is bigger and that holds the space. However I do feel a bit for the half back line, because when they did win the ball, there was noone in the forwards out in front to hit. James Sherry was poor, but he has no help, Hughie is a defender. And with regards the forwards, well were could you start. Awful awful awful, we need more big players to say the least. The lads lack height, but they should be at least out infront an odd time.
And the one thing that really annoyed me was the amount of times Fermanagh men received the ball standing still, this is basics!! At this level, if you receive the ball standing still, you will get bottled up and lose it, like we did endless times on Saturday.
And finally did we have any tactics on Saturday, and when things were going bad, we made like for like changes, and didnt make any tactical changes until it was way to late. Our management seemed to just sit in the dugout and take it.
My team (assuming the Tempo men and SQ are not available) would be
McGrath
Bogue
Owens
Jones
McElroy
Brady
Sherry
J Sherry
R Jones/Brian Og Maguire
Little
R Jones/Brian Og
Fla
Corrigan
Cecil
C O'Brien
At least this team has a strong defence, we are still weak at midfield, but at least giving some of the young guys a chance might develop them.
The forwards are still poor, but we don't really have the men. I would do my very best to get SQ back straight away. I would go back to the old Fermanagh way, defend defend defend and try to win the games by only scoring 7 or 8 points.
Rant Over!!!
What's the issue in Tempo lads? I think I know the craic with Quigley, I am good enough to walk onto this team but can't be arsed. I would have thought there might be more representation from Roslea, the county champions and Skea a group of lads surely on a high (and flying fit)
Where has Liam Lynch gone?
Quote from: FermPundit on February 21, 2011, 07:14:06 PM
From reading this thread and other forums I don't think I have ever seen so much criticism of the county team. Sometimes there are differing opinions from people from different clubs but this weekend was unique. There was universal agreement that Saturday night's performance was a complete and utter shambles. We have hit rock bottom and I just hope we can't sink much further. I think we need to ask the following questions:
1. Is John O'Neill still the right man for the job? The lack of tactics and the inability to make changes early on was worrying
2. What to do with the Tempo boys. This situation needs to be addressed quickly. We need everyone on board if things are to improve.
3. Should Seamus Quigley be brought back into the squad? We need a presence in the forward line, a target man for our smaller fowards. If not Quigley then what has happened to Ryan Carson? Was he even asked out this year or has he just withdrawn his services?
4. Do we need to get some of the older players back? Shane Goan, Shane McDermott and Ryan McCluskey spring to mind
5. Maybe we just need to accept that we are now a Division 4 side and we should limit our expectations. I don't think we are but the question still needs to be asked.
6. There seemed to be a real lack of effort from everyone on Saturday night. There was no passion or pride in the jersey. Any thoughts on why this was the case?
Discuss.
1. I did not think he was the right man for the job when he got the job and saturday night has not persuaded me otherwise. He does however deserve time. It has been speculated that JON is the reason that long serving players have declined to play this year.
2. Kelly, Foy and Keenan would be excellent additions to the squad. Kelly is very underrated and was a steady part of the half back line that made the ulster final. Foy has looked good any time I have seen him but attitude may be a problem. Keenan is a good ball winner and is good for a score or 2 per game, he also has an eye for a pass. I really don't know why they have been excluded though.
3. Yes! One of the most promising forwards in ulster but seems to have a piss poor attitude. Not too late to get him back onboard.
4. Most definitely. Apart from a number of the squad not being good enough at this level we also lack experience and leadership. Think frogs intercounty days are behind him unfortunately (he was taken for granted when was there year in year out in my opinion). McCluskey will not be back this year and would doubt that Shane Goan will return. From chatting to NTB men Blobby has not ruled himself out completely just yet which is good news. Is Shane McCabe an option? Ciaran McElroy would be a welcome addition. Would be great if Womble was to return. Its scary to think of the number of quality players we have unavailable for one reason or another!
5. With the current squad and set-up i'm afraid we can accept this but that can change!
6. I noticed the lack of effort and I feel it was an acceptance that we were not going to win the game. If this is the case then its not good enough. 100% effort is the least we should expect and could make up for lack of quality to some extent.
An alternative team of players we are missing for whatever reason
Gallagher/Tinney
Goan
McDermott
Foy
Kelly
McCluskey
D Ward
Womble
Carson
McCabe
R Keenan
C McElroy
D Keenan
Quigley
E Maguire
Quote from: FermPundit on February 21, 2011, 07:14:06 PM
From reading this thread and other forums I don't think I have ever seen so much criticism of the county team. Sometimes there are differing opinions from people from different clubs but this weekend was unique. There was universal agreement that Saturday night's performance was a complete and utter shambles. We have hit rock bottom and I just hope we can't sink much further. I think we need to ask the following questions:
1. Is John O'Neill still the right man for the job? The lack of tactics and the inability to make changes early on was worrying
2. What to do with the Tempo boys. This situation needs to be addressed quickly. We need everyone on board if things are to improve.
3. Should Seamus Quigley be brought back into the squad? We need a presence in the forward line, a target man for our smaller fowards. If not Quigley then what has happened to Ryan Carson? Was he even asked out this year or has he just withdrawn his services?
4. Do we need to get some of the older players back? Shane Goan, Shane McDermott and Ryan McCluskey spring to mind
5. Maybe we just need to accept that we are now a Division 4 side and we should limit our expectations. I don't think we are but the question still needs to be asked.
6. There seemed to be a real lack of effort from everyone on Saturday night. There was no passion or pride in the jersey. Any thoughts on why this was the case?
Discuss.
1. It was worringing on Saturday night. there did not seem to be a plan a, never mind a plan a but give him time.
2. I heard a "story" about it today and IF its true, then good luck. Fermanagh do not need children like that, no matter how good they are.
3. I have heard that Quigley was dropped. The reasons for his dropping seem to be as clear as mud. Blobby is working and that is well documented.
4. Goan has opened a new butchers in Skea and that is stopping him from committing. Not to sure about Frog and Clucker is Playing soccer. One poster mentioned Womble. He is in Oz and in no hurry home. Time to move on.
Eamonn maguire would be a serious help
5. NO
6. That was the worring thing for me as well.
Quote from: Emmett on February 21, 2011, 10:39:24 PM
Gallagher/Tinney
Goan
McDermott
Foy
Kelly
McCluskey
D Ward
Womble
Carson
McCabe
R Keenan
C McElroy
D Keenan
Quigley
E Maguire
That's unbelievable when you see them all together. Not even counting Marty McGrath.
Whats the hopes for this weekend lads. I just hope O'Neill starts with a more experienced and bigger line up, with McElroy, Sherry, Og Maguire and Cecil coming into the side at least.
I am optimistic, but can't unterstand why, just think if we make the changes we are bound to show some reaction to last weeks awful show.
However if O'Neill sticks to the same team again, I think we will get another hammering!
I didn't get to the game today. How did we play? Was there any improvement from last week?
i hear ryan jones got 6/7.
from wicklow hoganstand:
wicklow 4 ponts in first half all Furlong frees
Glynn scored a penalty
Little came on wth 7 mns left
ref was terrble
ferm had man sent off wicklow had 2 sent off
ferm should have won (consensus from ferm and wicklow hoganstand)
ferm fans were laughing at overweght wcklow men (seamus quigley anyone?!)
wicklow are no mugs but sounds like Fermanagh threw it away
Thanks Caid. It's disappointing to drop 3 points at home. We'll have to beat Roscommon to have any hope of going up.
Highlights from the game
http://www.wicklowgaaonline.com/index.php/2011/03/highlights-fermanagh-0-13-wicklow-2-07/
Devenish beat Skea in the league Final
Fermanagh football manager John O'Neill has dismissed reports that there is player unrest in his county squad.
There has been speculation that a number of senior players in the current panel had told O'Neill that they no longer wished to be part of his squad.
But O'Neill told BBC Sport on Wednesday that the claims of player unrest in the Erne County were "untrue".
"We had 27 players at training this week. The absentees all had entirely legitimate reasons," said O'Neill.
"We have two fellows who have long-term injuries.
"James Sherry has a long-term injury after getting injured against Roscommon and Shane Lyons is undergoing a finger operation.
"A couple of weeks ago, two other senior players, who have been on the Fermanagh panel for eight or 10 years, decided to call it a day. They felt they couldn't give the commitment at this time and we accepted it.
"These reports have been blown out of all proportion."
Fermanagh have made a poor start to their Division 4 campaign having earned only three points from four games.
O'Neill was only appointed to the Fermanagh role last September.
The Lisnaskea Emmetts clubman took over from Malachy O'Rourke, who quit the job in July.
Reports suggested that the players told O'Neill that they want to play for Fermanagh in 2011 "but under different management".
Sunday's 1-12 to 1-9 defeat by Connacht champions Roscommon means Fermanagh look certain to be playing Division 4 football again next season.
The Erne County are seventh in the Division 4 table - already five points between section toppers Longford, although Fermanagh have played a game less.
Quote from: wanderer on March 16, 2011, 10:28:57 PM
Reports suggested that the players told O'Neill that they want to play for Fermanagh in 2011 "but under different management".
Unfortunately I believe this to be true. With the level of commitment required to play county football players need to be able to like/respect the management. It is plain to see that this is not the case with Fermanagh right now. We have the makings of a very competitive team with all the missing players onboard and committed. The number of retirements this year is no coincidence. John O'Neill should just stand down now for the good of Fermanagh football! Not only do players not want to play for him but he is also out of his depth. No other county would accept this and no other county boards would expect players to represent their county under such circumstances. Something has to change and soon!
All does not appear to be well in the Fermanagh camp.
Any word of who the lads are that have pulled out of the panel? I heard Peter Sherry was one. Fermanagh cant afford to be losing players of his calibre when the pick is already so small.
Indeed.
I have heard that another 4 or 5 have pulled out.
I suppose that the team on Sunday will tell the story.
Things are going to get worse before they get better
Quote from: FermGael on March 19, 2011, 10:52:01 AM
Indeed.
I have heard that another 4 or 5 have pulled out.
I suppose that the team on Sunday will tell the story.
Things are going to get worse before they get better
Who have you heard FG?
James Sherry
Peter Sherry
Tommy McElroy
Shane Lyons
Niall Bogue
Fergal Murphy
All have walked.
Add Ciaran Fla to that list too!
There can't be many left, certainly not the 27 he claimed there was at training on Tuesday night.
Quote from: FermGael on March 19, 2011, 04:11:37 PM
James Sherry
Peter Sherry
Tommy McElroy
Shane Lyons
Niall Bogue
Fergal Murphy
All have walked.
It's becoming a farce. Normally if players leave a panel then I wouldn't go hankering after them, but there must be something seriously wrong in the camp. Surely the management has to change? Given all the players that have left, what would the current starting 15 be?
Does anyone know what the players' grievances are with the management?
Honestly, what has O'Neill done to annoy so many? Seen alot of smoke so far but no fire!
Need a new manager again. Peter will you take it
Just noticed that the Fermanagh Thread has started to drop down the main board, to be replaced by all sorts. Now that its out of sight, out of mind for the rest of the country I was wondering what the diehards can see happening, what will happen and what they hope?
Can O'Neill drag a couple of younger players through a few rounds of the qualifers? (maybesneak a win againest a complacent Derry). County board have laid there cards on the table, and I can't see them going back no matter what damage it does to football in the county. To lose the likes of Sherry & McElroy in what should be there peak years is bitterly disappointing in my view. What young players in the 18-21 range have the potential to push on?
Will the county board ever take hurling seriously. I was chatting a man from cork this week about it and he was amazed the county board are not helping to set up new clubs. He also thought it was brilliant and great commitment that the club teams travel ulster for games.
Is burns still the development officers and is he doing much???
SFL Division One
Lisnaskea 1-9 1-13 Belcoo
Newtownbutler 2-9 0-11 Derrygonnelly
St Josephs 2-9 1-9 Tempo
Enniskillen 0-11 0-7 St Patricks
Devenish 0-12 2-9 Roslea
SFL Division Two
Erne Gaels 2-11 0-9 Teemore
Brookeboro 0-9 1-7 Kinawley
Coa 0-17 1-14 Irvinestown
Derrylin 1-8 0-12 Maguiresbridge
Belnaleck 1-5 0-8 Aughadrumasee
I hear 7 sent off in Ederney today!! :o ???
Teemore getting beat is a huge surprise.
Good to see that Belnaleck get a point but Aughadrumasee are probably the worst side in division 2.
Will this mean that there is no fermanagh team in the Ulster Junior championship this year??
Surely it would be an idea to have the losers in the first round of the intermediate play off for the junior championship in a knock out event.
Cannot believe that Tempo got beat by St Josephs especially with the number of good club players that St Josephs have lost this year due to emigration.
Quote from: FermGael on April 17, 2011, 10:48:46 PM
Teemore getting beat is a huge surprise.
Good to see that Belnaleck get a point but Aughadrumasee are probably the worst side in division 2.
Will this mean that there is no fermanagh team in the Ulster Junior championship this year??
Surely it would be an idea to have the losers in the first round of the intermediate play off for the junior championship in a knock out event.
Cannot believe that Tempo got beat by St Josephs especially with the number of good club players that St Josephs have lost this year due to emigration.
Ederney have lost a few but Ferris coming back is a huge lift for them. They'll be badly hit by the couple of suspensions they are likely to get though
SFL
Manor House SFL 1
Tempo 0-17, Lisnaskea 1-7
Derrygonnelly 3-16, St.Joseph's 3-10
Belcoo 0-6, Devenish 0-11
Roslea 1-15, Enniskillen 0-8
St.Patrick's 2-10, Newtownbutler 2-9
Fermanagh Herald SFL 2
Maguiresbridge P-P Teemore
Kinawley 2-12, Coa 2-7
Aughadrumsee 0-2, Brookeborough 0-11
Irvinestown 1-16, Derrylin 0-4
Belnaleck P-P Erne Gaels
Very quiet in here ahead of the big game on Sunday. Unfortunately I can't see anything other than a heavy defeat :(
Can anyone hazard a guess at a possible lineout?
Firstly congratulations to the minors. Great to get a win at this level.
Good to see at least one Fermanagh team playing with a good game plan and playing to there strengths.
And missing one of their best players who was suspended. well done to all.
and to he senior game. Where to begin....
We committed football suicide by trying to play man on man with a 2 man Derry full forward line.
Not a sweeper in sight. We gave Bradley the freedom of Celtic Park and he destroyed us.
Naive would not have covered it.
We were wiped in midfield in the first half and just turned the ball over too many times. Alot of unforced errors.
The our only game plan when we got the ball was to boot it in as long and as high as we could.
A good plan considering the height we had in our full forward line ::) ::). It was meat and drink for McCloy.
Cecil tried hard and Ogie played well the whole game. Corrigan looked good but the ball into him was brutal.
At least in the second half we put a bit of respectability on the scoreline but the game was over.
It was a throw back to the mid 90's when Fermanagh were the whipping boys of Ulster.
What has happened is water under the bridge and the exiled players will not be returning.
Needs to be sorted for next year because Fermanagh do not have the player pool to leave this players twiddling their thumbs all summer.
On a side note, as usual McHugh puts the boot in again on the BBC the first chance that he gets about Fermanagh.
Did the same thing before on the BBC. Change the record Martin, go and watch another Donegal game and then tell us all about whats wrong with Ulster football
Fermanagh v London - hard to believe this is a 50-50 match.
I suppose the way things have went this year a defeat wouldn't be a total surprise. What does everybody think. Things have been really quiet on this site, hoganstand seems more popular with Fermanagh folk.
I am appealing to all Fermanagh users on this board to make their feelings on the senior team known.
My own feelings are that the management team should step down at the end of the year. He should have never been appointed as the manager in the first place. He didn't have the expetise required for a senior job in my opinion. I feel we need our best players playing. Having spoken to /met the players in question, especially the sherrys, tommy and Niall bogue over the last few years they are civil fellas and it would have taken alot for them to quit.
Come on and discuss OUR county!
Don't know what to think of draw now and not sure I care that much any more which sums up the year. Definitely not confident about winning but even if we did God knows what would be waiting for us down the line.
Not much discussion here but it's a case of if you have nothing nice/constructive to say, say nothing at all.
I hope they lose and the management quit
You obviously never heard that saying!
I certainly don't wish for them to lose in London - we could do without that hanging around our necks for the next few years and it could really ruin the future of one or two of the younger players.
I do know there needs to be big changes before next year and we can't afford to be without at least 10 of our top players. It looks like those changes can't happen under John O'Neill but i don't want to see Fermanagh disgraced further. It's just a mess and the less long term damage done the better.
Quote from: sammymaguire on June 15, 2011, 10:50:21 PM
I hope they lose and the management quit
Catch yourself on Sammy.
A lot of use here do not agree with what is going on but that statement is ridiculous.
They are quite a few talented younger players in the current squad and a defeat could, as exiled stated, ruin there career.
Quote from: FermGael on June 16, 2011, 12:02:33 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on June 15, 2011, 10:50:21 PM
I hope they lose and the management quit
Catch yourself on Sammy.
A lot of use here do not agree with what is going on but that statement is ridiculous.
They are quite a few talented younger players in the current squad and a defeat could, as exiled stated, ruin there career.
Would you prefer to see these younger lads get slaughtered by Monaghan, Down or Meath in the next round?
Wake up lads and smell the coffee, they dont need that kind of humiliation it would be a tad more honourable to lose by a couple of points to London in Ruislip under inept management and rebuild over the next 2-3 years. Simple. This current squad are going nowhere, actually backwards to be frank.
It is a strange game for Fermanagh
They are expected to win, because it is London.
If they win, then it was "Sure it was only London" and if they lose, then it is the managers fault.
I would not take this game too lightly, as London are preparing well for it
Living in Fermanagh, but family playing for London, I hope it is a good game and neither side gets a tanking
Is there coverage on any local radio stations of the game in London?
Can't find any mention of it
Quote from: ExiledGael on June 25, 2011, 12:26:59 PM
Is there coverage on any local radio stations of the game in London?
Can't find any mention of it
Are we officially the 2nd worst Senior inter county team in Ireland now? actually, maybe kilkenny would bate us too
if the Manager doesnt go now...
Quote from: sammymaguire on June 25, 2011, 03:37:35 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on June 25, 2011, 12:26:59 PM
Is there coverage on any local radio stations of the game in London?
Can't find any mention of it
Are we officially the 2nd worst Senior inter county team in Ireland now? actually, maybe kilkenny would bate us too
if the Manager doesnt go now...
We're a complete shambles. I said it in the other thread, but O'Neill will probably not resign. Will the County Board dismiss him? I'm really not sure they will. I wonder what was said in the dressing room at the end of today's game? Such a disaster
Just an embarrassment. Never took as much abuse over a result.
There's no way the county board can put the head down and plough on with this.
As hard as this has been to take, the real harm is to the players. Many of those younger boys will never bother seriously with county football again. A lot of the others nearer the 30 mark will be saying why the hell would I put myself through that again.
Those players that walked/stayed away are in no position to be sneering/laughing/saying I told you so tonight either. The county was disgraced and nobody comes out of this well.
Above all the county board come out of it worst.
Please get O'Neill out someone
Belcoo 3.10 Ederney 1.9 tonight in division 1 senior league, in Belcoo.
Erne Gaels 3.10, Enniskillen Gaels 1.10, full time score in Fermanagh grade 1 minor championship tonight in Brewster Park
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3 Hour 50 Mins from Semple Stadium
3 Hours from Pearse Stadium, Galway
2 Hour 40 Mins from Croke Park, Dublin
1 Hour 30 Mins from Casement Park, Belfast
50 Mins from Mac Cullagh Park, Ballybofey
30 Mins from Healy Park, Omagh
30 Mins from Brewster Park, Enniskillen
Full time in the first game in the championship tonight
Roslea 1-11 St Pat's 0-8
Devenish 0-16 Erne Gaels 1-6
Teemore 1-7 Belcoo 0-9
Lisnaskea 1-14 1-9 Derrygonnelly
Quarter Finals
Roslea v Newtownbutler
Teemore v St Josephs
Tempo v Enniskillen
Lisnaskea v Devenish
Roslea
Ederney
Tempo
Devenish
Open draw for the semi's ??
Mark McGovern update http://support4markmcgovern.com/_/Updates_%26_Events/Entries/2011/8/11_Progress.html which is promising
Roslea by a point in the replay last night
Tempo v Teemore
Roslea v Devenish
Indeed they did.
Tempo were in complete control( 8 points up) until Teemore put Barry Owens in at full forward with about 20 minutes to go in the second half. He caused panic in the Tempo defence. Won a penalty and set up 2 or 3 points.
Deccy Reilly scored the goal which looked wide from the stand side because it went straight threw the net and out the side.
The look of disbelief when the umpire raised the green flag on the Tempo faces was priceless.
Tempo choked. Pure and simple. They have the players but that must be the third or fourth year when big things have been expected and they have failed to deliever.
Fair play to Teemore. Never gave up. McKeever has done a good job. They had several important players who could not start due to injury and when they came on they game turned. Stanley was sent of at the end. Silly.
Looking forwards to Sundays game between Devenish and Roslea. Should be a cracker unless the weather ruins it.
Devenish 1-6 1-6 Roslea
Replay next Saturday at 8.
Roslea 2.6 ,Devenish 0.9, Fermanagh semi final replay tonight in Enniskillen.
Watch the second Roslea goal vs Devenish at Brewster 2nite - http://tiny.cc/kmxu2 (http://tiny.cc/kmxu2)
Irvinestown 2.13,Kinawley 2.10 , Fermanagh intermediate championship final ,last night , Brewster park.
Fermanagh SFC final this Sunday.
Anybody about this place these days or should i just turn out the light??
Just checked the odds there now with Paddy Power and Teemore are 7/2.
Thats huge odds. They have put out 3 division 1 teams this year and have a spine of experienced players.
Up for grabs between Teemore and Roslea on Sunday afternoon. Hard to see past the favs Roslea with their third appearance in a row in the county decider but still the element of intrigue with the Div 2 Teemore facing them on Sunday, a club steeped in Championship history, their last win only 6 seasons ago, this one bringing the two clubs back to the epic battle of 1983; Teemore coming out on top that afternoon. Hopefully a decent dry afternoon for football seeing Roslea aiming for their 11th - and back to back titles, Teemore looking for their 22nd!!
Any thoughts on scoreline and result lads?
Fair play to you Sammy.
Its Teemore for me.
Roslea 4/9 Draw 7/1 Teemore 11/5.
Certainly have to fancy Roslea on paper but wouldn't be backing them at that price. Teemore have been on an unreal run and came back from the dead at least once. Morale must be at an all-time high after the Tempo comeback and they will have real belief. I'd expect them to start well this time after going 8/9 down against Tempo last time.
Paddy McKeever (Armagh) has been with them for a few months and he seems to be doing something right.
Will be iinteresting to see if Seamie Quigley starts, McGinnity has been using him off the bench lately, given his commitment.
Where Owens plays will also be interesting.
He'll probably start in the middle but given the impact he made at full-forward in the last 20 minutes against Tempo I'd sat it's a cert he moves there at some stage on Sunday.
Teemore half-time Roslea full-time me thinks. I hope I'm wrong.
Who do the Fermanagh champions meet in Ulster?
Surprised there is not a bit more interest in the game in general, maybe many folk think it will be a foregone conclusion, Div 1 v Div 2 will mean any easy win for the so-called stronger team.
I think there will be some interesting battles all over the pitch on Sunday and the two sets of management will have a key part to play in the winning of the game, so thats what makes me think, McGinnity's experience will just come to the fore, although, if Owens and Brady and Declan O'Reilly are all on top of their games, then there will be little impact from the sideline so Roslea wont need to be any way complacent if they are to take the spoils on Sunday.
Roslea's forwards have the potential to score heavily against a Teemore defence which has been leaky in the championship so far this season, and if they can get the goals, that will wrap up this Championship for them but that will only happen if the midfield and half back line are able to get their hands on enough good ball to feed the likes of the two Quigleys and Lynchs. The semi final v Devenish was a hard hitting affair and the physicality wont upset the Roslea team as I see the game being played in this manner, a low-ish scoring, tight, hard hitting, 1-9 to 1-7 to Roslea.
I dont think it will be a runaway victory for the Roslea men anyway, thats for sure, the Teemore lads will battle to the death and will be well drilled and motivated my the management team in place there, I know Peter Quinn and he will be so up for this it will be unreal. Looks like it could be a cracker so I'll be there on Sunday.
Winners to pay Clonduff or Burren in the 1st round of Ulster Club (Fermanagh venue)
looking at the game you would think that Roslea have to much for Teemore.
The have the Quigleys up front with Liam Lynch who has been there unsung hero this year.
They have 2 county midfielders in Sherry and Cosgrove and a back line that will be well marshalled by Peter Sherry and Conor Quigley.
They play a very defensive game plan and leave the two Quigleys(when they both play) isolated up front. They try to play a counter attack style of football.
Devenish had the right idea in the semi when they played a sweeper in front of the Roslea front two. They played Chris O'Brien there and he caused Devenish alot of problems picking up the ball and running at them from deep. I am sure Teemore will have seen this.
Also Cosgrove has been taken of in both games i saw Roslea in. Seamie Quigley is carrying a bit of weight and was well marshalled by Martin O'Brien the last day. James Sherry played well in spurts the last day. Him and Hughie will be the key battle.
Upfront i would think Teemore will leave Barry around the middle until they need him at full forward. He has the best hands in the county and i feel he could be the difference when he is moved into full forward.
Paul Martin and Stanley will also be back for Teemore which will be a huge boost for them.
It will be a tight game and i think that Teemore will just about get over the line.
IMO its the last chance that some of there players will get at a county title.
Its Roslea's to lose imo. Teemore rode their luck against Tempo who must be kicking themselves as they threw it away. Barry Owens was completly ineffective at midfield and it was only when he moved to full forward that they got back into the game.
Roslea 1-10 Teemore 1-07. Seamy Quigley show wins the day for Roslea
Well he was given the freedom of Brewster.
Cannot believe how niave Teemore were.
Leaving Quigley one on one was a huge mistake
Quote from: FermGael on October 02, 2011, 10:57:34 PM
Well he was given the freedom of Brewster.
Cannot believe how niave Teemore were.
Leaving Quigley one on one was a huge mistake
Totally right. I think even if they had have played Barry Owens on him it would have been a better move as although Owens done some decent work further up the field, it was non effective and as Roslea were targetting SQ with every forward pass, it was strange that they did not double up on him... :-\
Feck me a week since the county final and not a post on it?
I'd say relationships between Teemore and Kinawley are at an all time low!
thats the height of the interest http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=20375.0
Well if the news is true, this is back on the agenda again - thankfully
IMO there is only one man. McGinnity
Quote from: FermGael on October 11, 2011, 09:32:33 AM
IMO there is only one man. McGinnity
Too right but Roslea football riding on the crest of a wave at the moment and he knows that "they need to make hay while the sun shines"... will he want to leave this?
Other runners possibly.
Fermanagh men:
Chapman. Has won county titles with Newtown and Cavan gaels this year.
Dom. I would say he will throw his hat in the ring.
Sean Maguire. His name always seems to get a mention.
Peter Clarke. Won an all ireland intermediate with Lisnaskea. Not too many Fermanagh managers have done that.
Ciaran Donnelly: very good trainer and has done a great job with any CBS team he has been involved with.
Outsiders:
Mark Henry: Took Fermanagh minors this year and won a championship match for the first time in a life time.
Peter Canavan: He will not be getting the chance with Tyrone anytime soon so why not??
Frank Dawson: Has an excellent record with different clubs in a load of different counties. Certaintly has the experience and know how.
Micko: Maybe he fancies a crack with an Ulster team before he retires.
Any other names anybody can think off??
Also are we going to see the report??
There is alot more to this situation that putting the blame at John O'Neills door.
IMO the county board have questions that need answered as well...
Justin McNulty would be good if could prise him away Laois. However, that is unlikely and anyway it is likely to be too late in the year now to get any other current inter county manager.
Brian McIvor is another name being talked about.
Will probably go to Chapman - and to be fair to him, given what happened in the last round of recruitment, he probably deserves a shot at it.
McGinnity has always shy-ed away from taking the Fermanagh job. Why would he change his mind now when we are arguably at the lowest point ever? I guess the only way is up....
It will be McGinnity.
Beat on the street in Tyrone is that Cathal Corey is one of the front runners! Anyone hear anything?
Paddy Crozier has been asked to put his hat in the ring as he is now finished at Omagh.
Well lads has anyone heard any more about the job ? According to the IR the 7 people nominated are Peter Canavan, Paddy Crozier, Frank Dawson, Peter Clarke, Dom Corrigan, Darren Chapman and James Lovett. How many of those will actually put themselves through the interview process though is a different matter. Glad to see that Pete McGrath will be part of the selection committee.
Personally I'd like to see an outside manager take the job to try and heal the divisions of last year. I'm disappointed that Brian McIver hasn't been nominated as I thought he would have been ideal. Canavan would certainly have the respect of the players but I don't think Errigal have done that well in the Tyrone Championship under him in the last few years. Nevertheless it would be a great coup to get him and would certainly bring back a spark and interest in the team that has been lacking for a few years.
Needs to be an outside man (or McGinnity) to sort this whole mess out.
Would like to see Frank Dawson getting the job.
Has an excellent record at club level.
We need an experienced head who has the CV to back it up.
This is a critical appointment for Fermanagh Gaa.
Frank Dawson? Who is he FermGael?
Currently managing Burren in Down.
Has taken them to back to back county titles.
Also won the Down county title with Clonduff at the start of the decade.
Was also the Down COunty hurling manager as well.
Has a very impressive club CV.
Have heard nothing but good reports from clubs he has managed
I just hope they get a better manager than Cavan ;)
Dawson or Canavan for me. Dawson has the best record but Canavan would bring the buzz back.
I's only a lend, hear?
Supposedly a Canavan & Tom Brew deal done...
I assume Donnelly is also on the Canavan ticket?
Quote from: Fermanaghandsam on November 18, 2011, 01:38:46 PM
I assume Donnelly is also on the Canavan ticket?
probably, but could be all codswallop... time will tell.
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Good performance and result today. Encouraging performances all round. Good to see a few newcomers do well, Eoin Donnelly especially in midfield which could be problem area for us. Of newcomers Kane Connor also done well. Don't think we can call Seamie Quigley a newcomer but he was deadly accurate. He could be one of the best forwards in Ulster if he was in shape. His two brothers done well also. Lyons added real strength around middle.
Little and Clucker both looked a class above, rarely wasting a ball and so composed in possession. Good to see all the best players in the county in the panel and rowing together again. Good atmosphere and reception at the match, partly helped by the scuffle which could have gotten really nasty. Must say I enjoyed it.
You can see the goals here, the second was a really well worked move expertly finished.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/16463562.stm
Bit too early to get excited or carried away.
Who was boxing?
Quigley chased back to half way and hit a boy a sly dig as he was lying on ground, Mick McCann in particular didn't like it and him and Seamie had a bit of a wrestle. Clucker, Little and lot of others involved. Spilled into the tunnel and dug-out area. Wasn't anything nasty but McCann got booked then booked again within 2 minutes so it cost Antrim dearly. They were going well at that point. Seamie scored 1-3 in the 15 minutes after that.
Obviously the earliest of days but any win has to be welcomed in Fermanagh.
I wasn't going to ask if Seamie was involved but hey ho, the big fella lets the aggro get the better of him again. Needs to cool the head big time if he wants to develop as an inter county player.
Nice to get out of the stalls fast, will be great morale booster for the whole group and even more importantly, Canavan will be pleased and he will need his confidence boosted too
He was very lucky to stay on the field.
He hit Lyttle some thump after he struck that goal.
Good to see his days playing soccer for Ballinamallard were useful for something.
IMO how Fermanagh progress this year is on Seamie's shoulders.
He has the potential to be the best in Ulster.
Promising performance but was very disappointed with Antrim.
Tyrone will give us a better idea of where we are at.
But a win is a win at the end of the day.
Good start.
This was in today's Irish news and http://www.hoganstand.com/fermanagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=160161 (http://www.hoganstand.com/fermanagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=160161)
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Owens: problems can't be ignored
11 January 2012
Barry Owens says the bitter dispute that brought Fermanagh football to its knees last year will have to be faced up to by new manager Peter Canavan.
The former All Star full back was one of those who remained loyal to former boss John O'Neill, but 11 decided to walk away, resulting in a turbulent and disastrous year for the Erne County. Since the appointment of Tyrone legend Canavan, the disgruntled players have returned but Owens insists the matter hasn't "gone away".
"Something has to be said. There is no point brushing it under the carpet," last year's captain told the Irish News.
"It's not going to go away. It's always going to be in the back of people's minds. It has to be addressed."
He continued: "There hasn't been an atmosphere yet. It will be a matter of dealing with it whenever that does arise. Peter will take a look at it in the next month or so. He will probably bring us all together and we'll have a chat about it. He hasn't really had time because we've only been out about a week-and-a-half, if even that."
Looks like Barry wants to get a bit of his chest....
Another enjoyable outing, Impartial report up already. Quigley hit some stunning points. Two of the longest frees I've seen, don't think he hit a wide. Some boy if you can get the ball into his hands. Long ball wasn't really working.
Fermanagh 2-13; Queens 0-10
Fermanagh made it two wins out of two under new manager Peter Canavan with a comfortable 2-13 to 0-10 victory over Queens at Brewster Park today in the Power NI Dr. McKenna Cup.
Once again full forward Seamus Quigley provided the bulk of the home side's scores, the Roslea man registering 1-08 for the second successive week, while Paul Ward fired home Fermanagh's second goal of the contest late on.
Canavan made six changes from the side that started against Antrim last Sunday with Chris Breen given the nod in goal while Declan Cassidy, Paul Cosgrove, Daryl Keenan, Liam Lynch and Pat Cadden were also named in the starting line up.
Fermanagh made a bright enough start to the game as they opened up a 0-04 to 0-01 lead after 13 minutes.
Quigley was quickly into his stride as he banged over three of Fermanagh's opening four points with Pat Cadden also clipping over a point.
James Kielt was to land a couple of frees for Queens with Gregory Jordan also chipping in with a point as they cut the gap back to two points, 0-05 to 0-03, but Fermanagh were dominating possession and they went on to push further ahead.
Quigley's exhibition of score taking included a superb point from play from the right as well as a monster free and by the break Fermanagh had forged a four point advantage, 0-09 to 0-05.
Quigley nudged Fermanagh five in front with a close in free in the first minute of the second half. And the full forward then swooped for the opening goal of the game in the 42nd minute.
Ryan McCluskey fed Eoin Donnelly on the left and he fired a ball towards the Queens goal which was latched on to by Quigley who rounded Matthew Jackson in the students net before slotting home.
Donal O'Hare did knock over a free for Queens in response while Fermanagh were then reduced to 14 men when Paul Cosgrove was given his marching orders after picking up a second yellow card from referee Padraig Hughes.
Despite the numerical supremacy, Queens were finding the Fermanagh defence hard to breach while at the other end Fermanagh continued to add to their tally. Substitute Paul Ward made a positive impact on proceedings as he clipped over a point before putting the result beyond doubt when he was put through on goal by the impressive Mark Little to slip his shot past Jackson.
Queens did battle to the end and O'Hare and Derrygonnelly's Ryan Jones lofted over late scores but these were merely consolation scores as Fermanagh move into their final group game against Tyrone on the back of two good results.
Fermanagh
C. Breen; N. Bogue, B. Owens, J. Woods (0-01); C.; Quigley, R. McCluskey, D. Cassidy; E. Donnelly, S. Lyons; P. Cosgrove, D. Keenan (0-01), L. Lynch; P. Cadden (0-02, 1f), Seamus Quigley (1-08, 6f), Sean Quigley.
Subs - B. Mulrone for Cassidy, M. Little for Lynch, P. Ward (1-01) for Cadden, K. Connor for McCluskey, D. Kille for Sean Quigley
Queens
M. Jackson; N. McGovern, S. Warnock, O. Costello; T. Hanna, B. Cox, P. McGuigan; R. Jones (0-02), A. Murnin; M. Sweeney (0-01), J. Kielt (0-02, 1f), G. Jordan (0-01); D. O'Hare (0-04, 3f), E. Clarke, C. Rafferty.
Subs - S. Burke for Clarke, PD Savage for Jordan, C. Fleming for Rafferty, C. Sheerin for Kielt
So what did people think of last nights game?
Some points from last night
1) Is Owens still good/fast enough for full back (Maybe an option at full forward should seamy not be there).
2) Bogue and Woods seem to be going well in the corners
3) Conor Q prob our best player at the minute
4) The other half back spot is still up for grabs
5) Lyons looks good around the middle, another option for full back but
6) D Keenan seems to have started to fulfill his potential
7) Two wing half forward spots still there for the taking
8) Sean Q seems to be carrying pounds and Ward failed to get out in front often enough
9) Seamy is still the key!!!
All in all very encouraging but.
1) Owens is definitely our best full-back. A sharp Stevie O'Neill will cause anyone bother. Wouldn't write him off.
2) Those two look nailed on and have played every game so far looking solid. Is Niall McGovern a possibility in League?
3) He's certainly one of our best players but needs a bit of experience and cuteness at that level. I would say Clucker or Seamy have been the best so far.
4) Between Tommy McElroy and Damien Kelly.
5) Lyons adds crucial strength to the middle sector but I'd be surprised to see him there come summer.
6) Very clever player and good in possession, should start come summer. Serious engine too.
7) Mark Little is our best creative forward, he'll be one of the wing half-forwards.
8) Early days for Sean but he's a great prospect and has right attitude. Ward is great in flashes, Canavan should be good for him as year goes on.
9) Agree, he's the focal point of the attack and gives the rest of the side belief.
1. Hard to say. He has looked off the pace in what I have seen of him, but is it a temporary or permanant problem?
2. Agreed, think they have it nailed down at the minute
3. Think McCluskey as well. Everything he does is effortless and looks easier than someone else doing it
4. Think McElroy might get it, but as is already said either one of kelly or mcelroy could slot in at centre half forward or wing half forward respectively
5. I was impressed with the midfield so far. Lyons & Donnelly have height, but lyons adds the strength which is something we have maybe been missing
6. Didn't see the game last night. Hope he finally fulfills the potential he has
7. Little, Keenan and one from point 4 above
8. There are a few lads with a bit of puppy fat running about, hopefully the conditioning work is going to be extensive! Ward looks either brilliant or poor in club & county games, hard to know what to make of his form so far
9. fingers crossed....... thats all I can say
Fitness and strength looked shocking, but at least Canavan is aware of that. Tyrone lads were going the length of the pitch without a hand been laid on them. Its a pity they didnt step up to the plate better in the first half - all it did was signal a reliance on quigley i'm sure canavan had hoped to dispel a bit by not playing him, but then it looked like being such a demoralising hammering he had to.
Egon gives us options at full back if Owens is struggling. I cant see him staying at midfield, but he will be somewhere unless injured of course. Better than Owens at fb? Very possibly. Perhaps its Owens who could go somewhere else (SQ and BO ff line?) but its probably unlikely enough
Well an encouraging start so far considering the shape some of our fellas are in.
A midfield partner for Sherry is still an issue. Would think that R Jones would be in with a shout but are him and Sherry too similar to play together??
McElroy should get the nod when fit but i would have reservations about playing D Kelly in the forward line.
IMO he needs to be facing the play.
Quigley is a class act but Canavan stills needs to develop a plan 'B' incase Seamy does a Seamy
Interesting story in todays Irish news about McCabe coming in after the soccer is over.
Any thoughts??
He was sitting among the Fermanagh subs last weekend alright and been tweeting about strength and conditioning training. That's hardly for Portadown. He'll be a very good option come summer but won't play before that, he's been going very well for Portadown this season and that goes on to April.
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Did not get down to the game today.
Anybody got any reports from a Fermanagh pont of view??
Was wondering what is the story with Carson?? Is he available this year??
Decent first half, v poor 2nd. Defense solid for most of the game. No forward penetration past the Tyrone half back line.
Scoreline harsh in the end but still, after 10 mins of 2nd half were played, there was only going to be one winner.
C Quigley, B Owens, Woods & Bogue in the corners played best imo
Sean Quigley, D Keenan and Sherry tried hard for an hour without much impact
Quote from: ExiledGael on January 20, 2012, 03:33:44 PM
He was sitting among the Fermanagh subs last weekend alright and been tweeting about strength and conditioning training. That's hardly for Portadown. He'll be a very good option come summer but won't play before that, he's been going very well for Portadown this season and that goes on to April.
I cannot believe you are following Shane McCabe on Twitter.
Thought I was a die hard but this takes it to a new level....
Very important result today but it was hairy enough for long periods. Clare didn't look a bad side but McCabe's arrival made a massive difference. Superb kick passing into Ward and Quigley. They will certainly take points off the other DIvision Four promotion candidates, Gary Brennan was excellent for them in midfield. Owens, Woods and McCabe best for us, Ward had some great moments too, though fumbled one great goal chance when one on one. Quigley's frees were very impressive though had an off day from general play.
Good report here from Impartial.
Fermanagh 0-11; Clare 0-08
Peter Canavan saw his Fermanagh side come from four points down to pick up the points from their opening Allianz NFL Division Two encounter against Clare at Brewster Park today.
Clare were much the sharper of the sides in the first half as they claimed a 0-05 to 0-02 half time advantage.
And within eight minutes of the second period they had moved into a 0-07 to 0-03 lead with the Fermanagh attack struggling to make any sort of impact on proceedings.
However, the introduction of Shane McCabe at the interval was to have a big bearing on the contest, McCabe pulling the strings from centre half forward where he begin to bring Paul Ward and Seamie Quigley in the full forward line into the game.
The Ernemen turned the game around as they landed eight unanswered scores to turn a four point deficit into a four point advantage and they survived a late scare that saw Clare full forward David Tubridy force Chris Snow in the Fermanagh goals into a save to hold on for the victory.
The away side showed their intent right from the off as Shane McGrath and Alan Clohessy slotted over scores.
Fermanagh were seeing plenty of the ball but the final pass into their inside forwards was far too laboured while Clare looked threatening when they got the ball into their attack.
Tubridy kicked over a free to extend the lead to three before Fermanagh finally got off the mark in the 19th minute with a point half back Barry Mulrone.
Tubridy and David Russell fired over points to push Clare four ahead but Quigley converted a free late in the half to leave it 0-05 to 0-02 at half time.
Canavan wasted no time in ringing the changes at the break with McCabe, Kane Connor and Daniel Kille all coming into the side for Mark Little, Brian Og Maguire and Sean Quigley.
Clare did tag on two Tubridy points, sandwiching a Ward effort for Fermanagh, but it was the home side who were beginning to get on top.
James Sherry was a growing influence on the game at midfield while McCabe's ability to pick out a pass was seeing Fermanagh look a lot more dangerous.
With Quigley showing unerring accuracy from frees and Ward chipping in with scores from play Fermanagh began to eat into the deficit, and with ten to go Quigley tapped over a free to put Fermanagh ahead for the first time.
Quigley, Ward and a rare Shane Lyons points put Fermanagh four ahead before Tubridy clipped over a free for Clare's first score in 25 minutes to leave it 0-11 to 0-08.
The visitors were to have a chance to snatch a draw when Tubridy worked a shooting chance in added on time but Snow was equal to the challenge as Fermanagh claimed the points on offer.
Fermanagh
C. Snow; N. Bogue, B. Owens, J. Woods; C. Quigley, R. McCluskey, B. Mulrone (0-1); E. Donnelly, J. Sherry; S. Lyons (0-1), B. Og Maguire, M. Little; P. Ward (0-3), Seamus Quigley (0-6, 5f, 1 '45), Sean Quigley.
Subs - S. McCabe for Little, K. Connor for Maguire, D. Kille for Sean Quigley, E. Maguire for Connor.
Clare
Joe Hayes; B. Hartnett, S. McNelis, L. Healy; M. McMahon, G. Kelly, John Hayes; G. Brennan, G. Quinlan; N. Browne, S. McGrath (0-1), S. Brennan; R. Donnelly, D. Tubridy (0-5, 4f), A. Clohessy (0-1).
Subs - D. Russell (0-1) for Quinlan, J. Dowling for Clohessy.
Did not get down this weekend.
According to the radio Wicklow had a good chance of a goal near the end.
Defence and midfield seemed to play well but they were a bit critical of the Fermanagh forwards decision making.
Conor Quigley seems to be playing some stuff this weather.
Still a good win, unbeaten and still to concede a goal. Onwards and upwards.
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From Hoganstand
Fermanagh's Mark Little has left the squad bringing an end to his inter county career.
Little, who was one of the county's stars of Fermanagh's run to the All-Ireland semi final in 2004 has been only a fringe player this year.
Indeed, he didn't get much game time during this year's league campaign and was an unused substitute in their last game against Leitrim.
The Lisnaskea forward had returned to form last year when he helped guide his club to All-Ireland intermediate glory, but the 29-year-old has been left frustrated by his time on the bench.
So, he has informed Fermanagh manager Peter Canavan that he is no longer making himself available for selection.
Not a major surprise but would certainly have been a good option come summer.
He started the year well in the McKenna Cup but hasn't had a look in since league really got going.
Past it since 08. All the best Mark
Quote from: sammymaguire on April 19, 2012, 10:52:55 PM
Past it since 08. All the best Mark
Harsh sammy. Very harsh.
One of the best wing half forwards our county has ever seen.
remember his performances in 04. Deserved an all Star that year.
Gerard Tracey doing some spinning today in the Irish News.
Brilliant footballer on his day and was instrumental in Fermanagh's meterioc rise in fortunes in the 04-08 era but since then all down hill :o
Leagues have started again folks. Couple of shocks in week one.
SFL Division 1
Teemore 2-7 Erne Gaels 3-11
Roslea 1-8 Lisnaskea 2-6
Devenish 0-10 Newtownbutler 0-10
Tempo 1-5 St Josephs 1-8
Derrygonnelly 2-10 Belcoo 1-9
SFL Division 2
Enniskillen 0-22 Brookeboro 2-7
St Patricks 2-14 Kinawley 0-9
Aughadrumsee 1-14 Maguiresbridge 0-8
Derrylin 2-8 Irvinestown 1-11
Many heading to Croker? Doubt there'll be 10,000 there altogether but should be interesting to see how this team fares down there.
Presume you can just buy tickets at the ground?
Practically all shocks in Round 1 in the league. Should be good to see the new Fermanagh team at HQ so hopefully the lads can finish off a great div 4 league campaign with silverware
Disagree Sammy about the results in division 1.
Erne Gales have youth coming through and beat Teemore twice last year in division 2.
Derrygonnelly are a very though nut to crack at home and Belcoo are a flaky team IMO.
Roslea will struggle when they have to play starred games. Take the Quigleys and James Sherry out of there team is a huge loss.
St Joseph's are a proven division 1 team and have Ferris back. Tempo had injuries and no county men.
Surprised though that Devenish could not beat Newtown. Newtown have lost alot of men this year to emmigration and would have been my favourites for the drop.
Round of league games on wednesday night as well so at least the club footballer has a bit of action at last.
as for Saturday night would be surprised if the total crowd is over 10,000.
Croke Park may not suit our style of football.
Wicklow are a good team and there will not be much in it.
I suppose I was commenting on the back of the last couple of seasons and the clubs overall form and performances, you seem to be more in with the here and now FG.
what has happened to the Fermanagh gaa website??
Used to be a great place to get club results at senior and underage level.
It has not been updated since last year.
I know you can get the results on facebook and twitter at times but will be needed when tables have to be checked at both underage and senior level.
It's a disgrace when you compare it to other Ulster conuties websites.
Well beaten today. Only really played for 15 minutes in the first half. Wicklow were full value for there win.
Tomas Corrigan played well when we gave him the correct type of ball. The plan in the second half seemed to be lump it in which did not work.
Donnelly put in a good shift in the middle but tired towards the end.
Wicklow exposed our full back line in the first half. Owens should have started.
They only other real concern for me was the amount of time our half back line attacked at the same time. Left us very open at the back.
Still not all doom and gloom. Good league campaign. Promotion achieved.
Work to be done between now and Down.
Midweek Results
Senior Football League Division 1 - Round Two
Lisnaskea 0-16 2-10 St Josephs
Newtownbutler 0-10 1-12 Roslea
Teemore 0-16 3-07 Tempo
Belcoo 0-10 0-09 Devenish
Erne Gaels 1-07 0-07 Derrygonnelly
Senior Football League Division 2 - Round Two
Derrylin 0-06 1-09 Aghadrumsee
Enniskillen Gaels 1-14 0-02 Belnaleck
Kinawley 0-10 1-12 Coa
St Patricks 3-16 0-10 Brookeboro
Reports from today
Division 1
Skea 1.10 teemore 2.06.
NTB 1.05 Belco 1.07.
Erne Gaels 0.05 Tempo 1.08.
Ros 1.08 Ed 0.11.
Division 2
Donagh 1.10 Belaneck 0.06.
Adrumsee 0.08 Enniskillen Gaels1.06
Coa 2.12 BBoro 0.09.
Irv 2.09 Kin 3.10.
Derrylin 1.07 Maguiresbridge 0.08.
did you take a trip up to watch?
I take it you work in website design, and more recently, Fermanagh GAAs website design? ;)
Its a good job anyway!
f**k.
From Fermanagh Herald website:
McCluskey out for Championship
Ger Treacy, the Fermanagh senior football team liaison officer, has confirmed that Ryan McCluskey, the Fermanagh captain, won't be fit for the Championship clash with Down on June 3. McCluskey picked up a facial injury at training at the weekend with the initial diagnosis indicating a fracture of the sinus cavity.
"In lay-man's term that is the eyebrow region," Treacy explained to the Fermanagh Herald on Monday.
"There is no hope of him making June 3rd," Treacy continued.
McCluskey was to stay in the Erne Hospital over night on Monday with a further assessment in Altnagelvin on Tuesday.
"Obviously it is terrible news for the whole squad," Treacy revealed, "but it just awful for Ryan in particular. He has completely dedicated himself to the squad this season and he has bought into everything. He is a tremendous captain and I know he was looking forward to getting back out on the field in the Ulster Championship."
Huge blow. Would be the main communicator on the team.
Would say that will mean Lyons at CHB now. Cannot see anybody else fitting in there.
Will have to be Conor Quigley and Barry Mulrone on either side of Lyons.
At the start of the year we had an oversupply of wing and centre half backs.
With Clucker, Tommy Mc and Damien Kelly all carrying injuries, we will be stretched in
this department
Fermanagh beat by Wexford in a challenge game apparently.
According to a couple of posters on hoganstand, the unit did not play and may be gone . any body hear any reports?
Quote from: FermGael on May 23, 2012, 09:45:49 PM
Fermanagh beat by Wexford in a challenge game apparently.
According to a couple of posters on hoganstand, the unit did not play and may be gone . any body hear any reports?
Heard Seamie was threatening to go to play for a team in America or Australia but the county board "persuaded" him to stay at home :-\
I thought he was already being 'persuaded' to play for Fermanagh.
Quote from: FermGael on May 24, 2012, 09:47:49 AM
I thought he was already being 'persuaded' to play for Fermanagh.
Well from what I have heard, coming up to crunch time, it seems like he was needing a little more persuasion ...
More reports of Quigley not training last night.
There is no smoke without fire and i would not expect him to be starting on Sunday.
Let's hope Peter has a plan B.
Should have been out before now.
From Impartial Website
Fermanagh Liaison Officer Ger Treacy has confirmed that Seamus Quigley has left the panel ahead of the All Ireland Qualifiers Round One on June 30.
Quigley was Fermanagh's chief source of scores during the McKenna Cup and National League but rumours abounded in the run in to the Ulster Championship clash with Down that the player had missed training sessions as well as a challenge match.
The Roslea man did feature against the Mournemen as a second half substitute with Fermanagh manager Peter Canavan stating that the player had sustained a hamstring injury a week prior to the game which had ruled him out of starting the contest.
The player did not attend training on Tuesday night when the squad met up for the first time since the Down defeat, and Treacy has explained the Quigley has withdrawn from the squad although the door has been left open for the talismanic forward to return in the future.
"I can confirm that Seamus Quigley has left the 2012 Senior Championship panel," said Treacy. "Seamus is no longer in a position to commit to the panel and has therefore withdrawn from the squad. The Management Team would like to thank Seamus for his contribution this year and hope that he will be available to the panel some time in the future."
Disappointing but not surprising. Hopefully the squad can focus now and ready for the qualifiers
Senior Football League 1
Round 8 Ederney
3:30 PM Ederney St Joseph's 1-12 v Erne Gaels Belleek 0-6
Senior Football League 1
Round 8 Newtownbutler GAA
3:30 PM Newtownbutler First Fermanaghs 1-10 v Derrygonnelly Harps 1-6
Senior Football League 1
Round 8 St Marys Park
3:30 PM Teemore Shamrocks 0-11 v Belcoo O`Rahilly's 2-6
Senior Football League 1
Round 8 Lisnaskea
3:30 PM Lisnaskea Emmetts 2-11 v Devenish St Mary's 1-5
Senior Football League 1
Round 8 St Marys Park
3:30 PM Tempo Maguires 0-9 v Roslea Shamrocks GFC 0-6
Date: Sunday 17th Jun 2012
Senior Football League 2
Round 8 Derrylin
3:30 PM Derrylin O Connells 2-10 v Belnaleck Art McMurroughs 1-8
Senior Football League 2
Round 8 St. Mary's GFC
3:30 PM Maguiresbridge St Mary's 0-4 v Kinawley Brian Borus 4-9
Senior Football League 2
Round 8 Brewster Park
3:30 PM Enniskillen Gaels 0-11 v St Patrick's Donagh 0-9
Senior Football League 2
Round 8 Coa
12:30 PM Coa O`Dwyer's 2-10 v Aghadrumsee St McCartans 0-6
So Quigley has withdrawn from the panel and the door is still open if he fancies it.
That in itself sums the whole mess up.
Alot of people left with egg on their faces.
Need a good draw tomorrow morning and important to get it at home.
Maybe we can now concentrate on playing football.
Quote from: FermGael on June 17, 2012, 10:54:38 PM
So Quigley has withdrawn from the panel and the door is still open if he fancies it.
That in itself sums the whole mess up.
Alot of people left with egg on their faces.
Need a good draw tomorrow morning and important to get it at home.
Maybe we can now concentrate on playing football.
Thomas Kane reckons he is the #gaasbalotelli. Not a bad comparison. Will his behaviour, and the subsequent weak management, affect morale in the camp? A favourable home draw would hopefully get us back on the road, but I can't see us getting far.
Would have preferred a non ulster team to be honest.
Cavan are a young, hungry team who would have good memories of playing in Brewster Park( the last 2 Ulster U-21 titles ).
Throw in the local derby aspect and then this could go either way.
I would say that Cavan will not exactly be worried about drawing us.
Will be interesting to see what sort of team Canavan sends out, now that Quigley has quit.
Not sure what options he has for full forward. Needs to play somebody in there with a physical presence.
McCabe will be a help in the forward's. He will probably replace Daryl Keenan.
Would also like to see John Woods brought into the corner back slot. Deserves a chance.
Does anybody know if James Sherry has been playing for Roslea??
Not sure what other options we have.
After the sweetener he got to stay at home, will he be returning it or exchanging it for dollars?
The Trigley has dissolved now, is it right Conor and Sean now followed Seamie out the door?
Quote from: sammymaguire on June 19, 2012, 10:53:29 PM
The Trigley has dissolved now, is it right Conor and Sean now followed Seamie out the door?
I heard that they followed each other into a local watering hole on their visit there for a recent league game. Needless to say they didn't make their way to the match. Wile craic those boys. ;D
Hope that this is not true.
Sean has been injured this year but if fit is one of the best forwards within the county.
Conor Quigley has been Fermanagh's best player over the last 2 years. He would be a huge loss to our half back line especially considering that McCluskey is still injured and Tommy McElroy is not fully fit.
If this is true, there will be an article in the Irish News from Ger Tracey explaining how this was all part of the plan anyhow.
This is not true, I have that pretty reliably.
Sean got lots of chances early in the year and simply didn't look good enough IMO. Well down the pecking order.
Cavan at home is a good draw for us, but Cavan will be relatively pleased also. I would like to think we will be a bit more adventurous in how we set up.
Where do you start after that.
For 45 minutes we were in complete control.
Playing the best football we have played this year to date and dominating in nearly all sectors.
The benefits of having a team knowing what they were doing and the lack of the 'Seamie circus' was clear to see.
Then we conceded 2 goals in about 2 minutes and the game flipped on its head. We could not win a ball around the middle and Cavan just powered on.
Very disappointing and we had nobody who tried to wrestle the game back from Cavan. The heads just dropped.
Overall a disappointing end to a year that had promised so much.
We are out of division 4 which is good and its too early to judge Canavan.
He was brought in at a very late stage and he has to be given another year and more importantly a proper preseason with the team. The changes that Canavan made to the starting team today were good but when you look at the sub bench, we did not have any real game changers.
They are players within the county that also have to be brought on board as well. Ryan Carson, Chris O'Brien, Marty O'Brien, Enda Ferris, Terry O'Flanaghan to name but a few.
Forget about Seamie Quigley, he is not worth it.
We also have to look at our Underage set up. Dom/McGinnity has been producing competitive MacRory team for the last 20 years that have beaten the best in Ulster. That has not been transferred to the county underage set up. I think we have won one minor/U-21 Ulster Championship game in the last 5 years. I may be wrong but its not by much. We have to look at why we are not developing winning underage teams. Look at what Cavan have done. They have brought in quality underage coaches and they are now reaping the benefits with consecutive U-21 Ulster titles and a young, hungry senior team.
That is the only long term solution for Fermanagh football. Lets look at the big picture. Yes invest resources in the senior team. But we have to invest in the youth as well. The investment has to be planned, monitored and evaluated. There has to be attainable goals that can be measured in some way. Otherwise we will fall further behind. With emigration taking hold in many Fermanagh clubs, we have to make sure our youth is getting the best coaching available.
Good points. Well made.
The schools will be a huge issue. Its great to see St Congall's having somebody of the calibre of Tony Collins in the school.
When the schools merge, he has the schools experience with St Mary's Magherafelt to push the new school on.
But when you look at our clubs and their underage structure you have to be worried.
At U-16, minor and U-21 level in the Ulster club championship we get hammered.
At senior level only 2 clubs have won Ulster club championship games, Roslea and Enniskillen Gaels.
Every other Fermanagh club champion over the last 25 years have been beat and well beat at that.
I witnessed last years U-16 final in Fermanagh and the lack of basic skills on both teams was shocking.
We need to have coaches working with young players whose target is not winning but producing players who have
the basics well mastered. The coaches that are working with the county board and with the clubs have to be properly evaluated. We have to look at the work being done in Tipp, Cavan. Counties with similar expectations and problems as ourselves.Fermanagh county board has a Chance to look at the big picture. Its either that or we will be stuck in the same place for the next 10 years.
Not in a great position to judge the structures at school and underage levels so will leave that to others. Hard to analyse anything long term anyway considering I'm still baffled by what happened one day ago.
Still don't understand how that game was lost. We were cruising but one setback and the wheels totally fell off. In any case, I'm not sure what we would have gained from an outing against Kildare or whoever next time out.
Sticking to the positives we have at least managed to get out of Division Four for next year, will be playing against a much higher standard of opposition with a few interesting derbies (Monaghan, Cavan, even Meath close by) so we should learn more from that than travelling to Ruislip, Dr Cullen Park and Dungarvan.
Eoin Donnelly has been a real find, Daniel Kille looks quite comfortable at that level and Conor Quigley had another very good season overall. We've also learned a lot about a few others and will be better placed next year. Hopefully management and core of key players stay around.
And so it begins.
Is Canavan abandonding ship or is he jostling for position?
He has also given a samilar interview to the Impartial Reporter
http://fermanaghherald.com/2012/07/03/canavans-future-up-in-the-air/ (http://fermanaghherald.com/2012/07/03/canavans-future-up-in-the-air/)
Quote
Canavan's future up in the air
July 3, 2012 at 7:00 am
By Colm Bradley
Peter Canavan will sit down with the county Board before deciding on his future stating that it was always going to be the case that 'we were going to review our position at the end of the year'. The Tyrone legend also explained that the management team 'weren't going to stay for the sake of staying' and that the they would 'speak to the county board' and 'see how things go.'
In a far reaching interview Canavan explains that there are a 'number of issues' that need to be addressed in terms of giving the players every opportunity to reach their potential.
Canavan was reluctant to go into details regarding what the specific issues were but there is no doubt that the two time All Ireland winner will need assurances if he is to stay at the helm for another year.
Canavan believes that there has been improvement made this year but that the Fermanagh players have a long way to go to catch up with other counties in terms of conditioning and it was when fleshing out this point that he raised the question of support for the players;
"There's been serious progress I believe with these players in the past six months. Are they up to the level of other counties? No. They're not. If the desire's there and they want to do it, there's nothing to stop them getting themselves into that sort of condition. But, we'll certainly have to look at that end of it.
But, they do need all the support they can get. There's a number of issues need to be addressed in that. Are the players getting every opportunity they can to be the best they can be? Look, we'll look at our own end of things, we'll speak to the county board and we'll see how things go."
Its pretty obvious he is after somebody to look after the Strength and Conditioning side of things, similar to what Micky McGurn did in 2008. It was something that was very obvious, especially with some of the subs that Fermanagh brought on. They did not have the physiciality needed for modern intercounty football.
But this will cost money and IMHO we are all ready way over our heads.
Over to you County Board and probably more importantly, Club Eirne
solution is obvious, Fermanagh should stick to the Fly fishing!
Cos in 08 they were tanks??!
You could have the best strength and conditioning trainer in the land in, and it wont make a bit of difference unless the lads are doing it on their own, thats the problem. To see any impact come through you'd need to have players and potential players in the gym of their own accord, throughout about three full off seasons, and also keeping it going but toning it down a bit during the season. Its too late, certainly for that year if some lad is put on a program when he joins the panel in Jan.
There is no gym culture in fermanagh football, whereby players are in the gym every night off their own bat, compared to other counties, and thats an issue. This is probably linked to the rurality etc, and is changing slowly, but its a long way behind just about every other county.
From canavans point of view, he is resigned to picking a panel of footballers from an underdeveloped pool and seeing what he can do with them physicality wise, whereas what he should be able to do (and what most co managers can do) is pick a panel of footballers who are already fit and strong. Feeds back to the club scene I suppose. In relation to the interview, I dont know if that emphasis is on getting gym membership or similar for the panel and potentials or coming up with somethign that makes it easier for players to do their strength work, but certainly getting in a strength coach for the season will add little. Unless he has 3 sessions a week from 52 weeks of the year that is.
In 08 the players were doing a serious s & c programme and were meeting up in smaller groups to do it.
If you go back and look at any of the games in the ulster championship from 08 you will see Fermanagh players routinely put bigger opposing players on there arse.
yes i agree with the point about players doing it on there own but there must be a programme dictated to them.
IMO we are light years behind other counties and this process must start at a young age.
Colm Bradley did a great piece in today's Fermanagh herald.
it sums the whole thing up.
At this stage, every gaa player has more programs than they know what to do with, the problem is a lot of them only look at them for three weeks in January when they harbour ambitions of becoming adonises overnight. Some of these programs are excellent, some may be not so good, but anyone who follows any of them properly for a sustained period will come on leaps and bounds.
I disagree with you about 08. The only players I remember being put on their arse were put there by marty. They may have been on a good program, but its not going to have been that much better than the ones their opponents had in all likelihood been on solid for at least 3 or 4 years previous, to enable them to be 'routinely' tossing bigger men. The point is it doesnt work like a one year wonder thing, you need to be engraining the culture of the training you describe in 08 so that now 4 or 5 years later, you can really see the benefit.
It needs to be viewed differently, i.e. that it isnt something to be done when the players start back to training, or done in conjunction with training, rather that anyone with serious ambitions should have their s & c work as an ongoing, background thing - the framework for improving the rest of the attributes needed to be a decent interco footballer.
Didnt see bradleys article, heralds got bad, tho in fairness to him hes got a lot better
Hi everyone,
Sorry to hijack the thread but please bear with me!
I have been made aware of a study that the University of Ulster are currently carrying out into defibrillators in the GAA. It's an all-Ireland study that is based on line.
As this is such an important and emotive subject for many of us Gaels I thought that I should try to get the word out so that as many of us as possible participate in order to make the results more reliable. The link is below and I would encourage everyone to take the 5 minutes and complete the form. The idea is to get a picture of where we are at as an organisation with the provision of this life saving equipment.
I should state that this is not my study and I am not involved in it other than that I know the people carrying it out. But on their behalf I would like to thank everyone who does fill it out in advance. Your help will be greatly appreciated and hopefully will help the GAA and all of our members. Getting this information may eventually even help to save lives.
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It all kicks off this weekend.... predictions lads + lasses
Target SFC
Fri, 27 Jul, Venue: Kinawley, (Round: Round 1), Tempo Maguires V Belcoo O'Rahilly's 19:30
Sat, 28 Jul, Venue: Tempo, (Round: Round 1), Irvinestown St Molaises V Newtownbutler First Fermanaghs 19:30
Sun, 29 Jul, Venue: Brewster Park, (Round: Round 1), Derrygonnelly Harps V Roslea Shamrocks 14:00
Sun, 29 Jul, Venue: Brewster Park, (Round: Round 1), Lisnaskea Emmetts V Devenish St Mary's 15:30
Belcoo
Newtown
Lisnaskea
Roslea.
some good games starting tonight between the 2 dark horses for the championship.
I reckon Tempo will run it close this year
Tempo won by 4 tonight - were 5 up at half time (and Belcoo had few soft scores in first half).
Exciting game by all accounts
Roslea beat by 2. last minute penalty in the 9th minute of injury time.
The unit got a red after the final whistle.
Will be an interesting referees report.
Two cracking games at Brewster today, Roslea will feel hard done by losing to a penalty in the 8th minute of added time, but have themselves too much to do with a poor first half display, 7 points in arrears starting the 2nd half.
Skea deserved their win against a never say die Devenish team, but the slightly classier forward line in Killle and 2 Littles with good support from Brian Og saw them through. They'll be feeling bullish about going all the way with what teams are left.
Great highlights package of Championship games on Sunday.
Skea Devenish
www.vimeo.com/46679247
Roslea Derrygonnelly
www.vimeo.com/46713405
championship swinging back in to action this weekend, some decent looking contests
Senior Football Championship - Quarter Finals
Lisnaskea v Newtownbutler Brewster Park 17/08/2012 20:00
St Pats v Enniskillen Gaels Lisnaskea 18/08/2012 19:00
Tempo v Derrygonnelly Brewster Park 19/08/2012 15:30
Erne Gaels v St Josephs Irvinestown 19/08/2012 19:00
Intermediate Football Championship - Quarter Finals
Belnaleck v Maguiresbridge Kinawley 17/08/2012 19:00
Kinawley v Aghadrumsee Lisnaskea 18/08/2012 17:30
Brookeboro v Teemore Brewster Park 19/08/2012 14:00
Derrylin v Coa Irvinestown 19/08/2012 17:30
Cannot see any upsets
17/8/12 20:00 Lisnaskea (1/4 )v Newtownbutler (10/3) Draw (8/1)
Local derby tonight. Being played in Enniskillen which should suit Lisnaskea. Both teams will be missing key players.
Mark Lyttle is suspended for Lisnaskea and Paul Johnston is injured..
Lisnaskea have a good mix of youth and experience and some really talented forwards in Cecil and Aidy Lyttle. Newtown will be heavily depending on Carson and Monaghan. They will need to try and frustrate Lisnaskea and defend in numbers and keep in touch. They were very lucky to get past Irvinestown in the first round and i think Lisnaskea will progress
18/8/12 19:00 St Patricks(4/7) v Enniskillen( 7/4 ) Draw (13/2 )
The battle of 2 teams in division 2. St Pat's have been in great form this year in division 2 this year. They are top of the table and will get promoted. Have only been beaten once this year and that was by Enniskillen.
Enniskillen are lying 3rd in division 2 this year and have had a up and down year. Beat By Maguiresbridge and Kinawley but have also have beaten St Pat's.
Hard to know but 4/7 is a bit short on St Pat's. The Gaels are a good price at 7/4 and i think they will sneak this one by a point or 2.
19/8/12 15:30 Tempo(5/6) v Derrygonnelly (6/5) Draw ( 13/2)
Tempo will be fancied to beat Derrygonnelly but i am not so sure. Derrygonnelly are an experienced outfit and they will miss the suspended Kevin Cassidy. Ryan Jones played really well in the midfield against Roslea and I except him to do the same here. In Michael Jones Derrygonnelly have a player who can keep Daryl Keenan underwraps and Jonny McGurn can can do damage for Derrygonnelly in the full forward line. In last years championship semi final Teemore were 8 points done, put Barry Owens in full forward and Tempo collapsed. Ward will also be a handful in there as well.
Think Derrygonnelly will win this.
Erne Gaels(2/5 ) v St Josephs Irvinestown (9/4) Draw 15/2
St Josephs should win this. Seem to be a well drilled outfit and have been preforming really well in the league. Joint top at the minute. Erne Gaels had a good start to the league but have fallen away in recent weeks. Now back in the relegation fight. Ederney should have too much.
I think the 4 games in the Intermediate will go with the favourites. Cannot see any upsets there at all.
Intermediate Football Championship - Quarter Finals
Belnaleck v Maguiresbridge Kinawley 17/08/2012 19:00
Kinawley v Aghadrumsee Lisnaskea 18/08/2012 17:30
Brookeboro v Teemore Brewster Park 19/08/2012 14:00
Derrylin v Coa Irvinestown 19/08/2012 17:30
Lisnaskea 1/4 tonight against Newtown without Mark Little ???
Surely that cant be right? Where are you getting these odds?
took them from paddy power at lunchtime.
Newtown nave lost a few players to emigration and kevin connolly is in the states for the summer.
Semi-Finals Line-up
Lisnaskea v St Pats
Tempo v Erne Gaels
Intermediate
Teemore v Bridge/Belnaleck
Coa v Kinawley
Erne Gaels upset the apple cart yesterday evening, I would say a few St Joes men waking up this morning with a fair few regrets :-\
Other than that, everything went as expected... St Pats looked good against the Gaels so Skea will need to improve to get past them, which I don't think they will and I would expect Tempo to reach their first final in a long time. Could be Tempo's year...
Canavan issues a warning
Taken from http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/fermanagh-players-will-have-to-erne-their-place-canavan-16208057.html#ixzz264bVQSRL (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/fermanagh-players-will-have-to-erne-their-place-canavan-16208057.html#ixzz264bVQSRL)
QuotePeter Canavan has issued a warning for his Fermanagh players for the forthcoming season that the work undertaken this year will be nothing compared to the next step.
The 2003 All-Ireland winning Tyrone captain was appointed manager of neighbouring Fermanagh in late November last year, leaving him with very little time to conduct a trials process before shaping his squad. The procrastination in his appointment - which was delayed as the county held an outside inquiry into well-documented team matters in 2011 — also scuppered the crucial prehabilitation strength and conditioning work.
Talking about the level of demands placed on players by counties such as Dublin and Donegal at the Ulster Bank GAA Force chat night in Killyclogher, Canavan said: "We haven't, so far, made those demands on Fermanagh players — getting up at 6.30am to get a training session before their days' work, and as soon as you come in again, getting into the car to go to training — doing that maybe three times a week.
"Now, we are ready to move onto the next stage in Fermanagh and there's going to be serious commitment required by everyone involved in the team.
"For various reasons some players can't commit and a lot of times it's not my decision, it's often their decision.
"Certainly, the players that I want from now on will be committed 100%."
Last season started brightly for Canavan and Fermanagh, with early wins over Antrim and Queen's in the Dr McKenna Cup, as well as the encouraging pointer of a stirring comeback against Tyrone.
To the fore of those efforts was full-forward Seamus Quigley, who hit 1-8 in the first two games against Antrim and Queen's. The talented Roslea man then went on to accumulate 5-43 in their National League campaign, as they clinched promotion out of division four.
However, as the Championship match first round game against Down approached, Quigley missed training on more than one occasion.
He lost his starting place for the Down game but was introduced in the second half. Before the first round qualifier game against Cavan, he withdrew from the panel, citing an inability to continue his commitment to the panel.
Responding to a question from the audience about the possible return of who could only be interpreted as Quigley, Canavan took an overview of the panel as a whole, stating: "It's the start of a new year and the principle we had last year was that the best players in Fermanagh hadn't been putting themselves forward.
"It's the same in Tyrone and it's the same in a lot of other counties, sometimes that's not the case and there are players unable to make the sacrifices and commitment needed to compete at senior level."
He continued: "We're not talking about one player, we are talking about three or four players in Fermanagh who are in that at the minute; for different reasons they can't make the sacrifices necessary."
Accompanying Canavan on stage was Down forward Danny Hughes, who spoke about stay-away players.
"As a county player, if a man like Peter Canavan came in and was good enough to take over your team, anybody who couldn't give the commitment shouldn't be playing.
"I would say that there should be no question that if Peter Canavan came in and invited players onto the Down panel and the commitment wasn't there, then that doesn't say much for them as a person."
After the way in which Donegal have swept to their second successive Ulster title and reached the All-Ireland final, Canavan realises the critical importance of physical preparation and is looking to implement similar practise in the Erne county ranks.
"Donegal are yards ahead of anybody else in terms of their physical fitness and the demands that he [Jim McGuinness] has placed on those players," he said.
"It's not a coincidence that they dominate teams in the second half, they are stronger and fitter."
Canavan also revealed that he has no ambition to eventually take over as Tyrone manager, preferring not to tread on the toes of his former manager and clubmate, Mickey Harte.
"It's certainly a challenge where I am at the minute, but I think there's a man there who is more than capable of it. To be honest, it's not a dream. Going up the Hogan Stand as a player to lift the Sam Maguire, that was a dream.
"From my own point of view, I'd sleep every night if I didn't get to manage my county."
Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/fermanagh-players-will-have-to-erne-their-place-canavan-16208057.html#ixzz264bVQSRL
Good to hear. Get players who are 100% committed and ditch the bluffers.
Also after this weekend games i think Leon Carters should be sounded out.
I know he is playing soccer for Ballinamallard but he was immense yesterday for Coa.
Big physical player who is comfortable on the ball.
Thomas Campbell also played well for Tempo at full forward. Worth a look as well.
Apart from that it was the usual suspects.
Good to hear. Get players who are 100% committed and ditch the bluffers.
Also after this weekend games i think Leon Carters should be sounded out.
I know he is playing soccer for Ballinamallard but he was immense yesterday for Coa.
Big physical player who is comfortable on the ball.
Thomas Campbell also played well for Tempo at full forward. Worth a look as well.
Apart from that it was the usual suspects.
Thought Carters was brilliant yesterday but from what I have seen of him that was an exception rather than the norm. If he could put that in every week in league games (as well as championship) he would be county material without a problem
Campbell was excellent at catching and showing yesterday, maybe needs another year or so at club level bulking up? and then he could be a handful.
as you say apart from that it was the usuals
http://www.hoganstand.com/Fermanagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=177750 (http://www.hoganstand.com/Fermanagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=177750)
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Gallagher grew up supporting Donegal
19 September 2012
Rory Gallagher says he grew up supporting Donegal, despite hailing from just over the border in Fermanagh.
The Belleek native enjoyed a stellar career with the Erne County before joining Jim McGuinness' management team two years ago, having moved to Killybegs where he manages the local SuperValu.
"It (his home) was right on the border. We had a farm of land that went into the south," he told The Irish Daily Star.
"We'd have gone to loads of Donegal matches as kids. I went to the All-Ireland final in 1992 with my parents and my brother. And we were at the homecoming in Bundoran. That's only eight miles from us.
"Fermanagh were having minimal success. Between 1983 and 1999, we only won two championship games. So as kids on the border, we would have always followed what the Donegal team was doing.
"Most of the big club games were played in Donegal town, and that was only 20 minutes' drive away. We'd go there to watch the likes of Aodh Ruadh, Naomh Columba, Killybegs and Kilcar - the strong club teams at that time.
How is Teemore performing this year. Is paddy doing a good job with them?
well having watched the double header in pomeroy yesterday i would not be so sure.
The standard i witnessed in both senior and intermediate games yesterday was poor.
Winter football will suit Teemore. The game was over as a contest yesterday after 15
minutes. They play a very direct brand of football, are very physical, and have alot of
experience. Would not rule them out.
Big match tomorrow night, and a very hard one to call.
Lisnaskea are hard to predict and no matter what happens they will be able to hold their heads high, I just wonder if the will to win will be too much and they make mistakes trying too hard
Tempo are hard to judge. They really fell apart last year in the 2nd half against Teemore when they were well in control. Will the expectation be too much for them
Quote from: sammymaguire on July 27, 2012, 09:56:44 PM
I reckon Tempo will run it close this year
Ya heard it here first 8)
Superb highlights of the county final from the BBC Sport website
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/19801092
Teemore and Newtown relegated from division 1.
St Pat's and Kinawley promoted from division 2.
All over for the year in Fermanagh except the county board have decided to have top 4 play offs in the 2 divisions. Crazy idea. Let the team who tops the league on points get the trophy and let the club player have a bit of a break. And maybe next year start the leagues abit earlier and make sure the club footballer gets regular games. The tail is wagging the dog.
Might as well chat to myself this weather.
Anyway provisional league fixtures are out:
ALLIANZ NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 3 (2.00 unless stated)
Div 3: Wicklow v Fermanagh
SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 9 (7.0 unless stated).
Div 3: Fermanagh v Roscommon.
SATURDAY, MARCH 2 (7.00 unless stated)
Antrim v Fermanagh.
SATURDAY, MARCH 9 (7.00 unless stated).
Div 3: Fermanagh v Monaghan.
SATURDAY, MARCH 16 (7.00 unless stated)
Cavan v Fermanagh
SUNDAY, MARCH 24
Fermanagh v Sligo
SUNDAY, APRIL 7 (3.00 unless stated).
Meath v Fermanagh
Very difficult fixture list.
4 Saturday games as well.
4 away fixtures and 3 home games again.
Tough away fixture to Wicklow to start off with.
Come to think of it none of the fixtures are easy.
We would need to be sure of our place in the division before the last game.
Survival in division 3 would be a good achievement this year.
I am now convinced that the naysayers have been right all along. For years I tried to promote the idea that we can improve players' decision-making on and off the ball, their movement off the ball, their positional sense, their timing of runs and their abilities to adapt to different game plans and attacking options. The truth is that for 90% of players we cannot!!
They bring with them their own inbuilt cerebral limitations for these skills and we can labour for as long as we want and convince ourselves we see glimmers of hope, but the fact is that they will revert to type more often than not.
Just get them as fit as possible, as well-conditioned as possible and as technically proficient as possible and forget the rest.
Well done to Lisbellaw! Great for hurling in Fermanagh.
Any body know anything about our new under 21 manager?
Malachy Cullen is his name.
I have never heard of him.
9 November 2012
Belfast Telegraph
FERMANAGH football boss Peter Canavan is taking decisive steps to ensure that what has developed into a flood of youthful talent is funnelled through the proper channels as a precursor to emerging onto the senior stage.
Canavan, clearly determined to achieve back-to-back promotions for the Erne county by leading his side into Division Two of the Allianz League come the spring, has already conducted a forensic scrutiny of under-age starlets and has moved quickly to streamline the mechanism whereby he feels the players can flourish.
The appointment of Malachy Cullen as the new under 21 manager is seen as central to this strategy and already the former Aodh Rua, Ballyshannon player has got down to business.
Cullen shared in two championship titles with his club some two decades ago and since then has made an impact in the club management sphere.
He guided Devenish to the Fermanagh senior league title in 2008 and in the same year steered the club to the U21 championship title.
Canavan (pictured) is particularly anxious that because of the high ratio of younger players now coming through, there should be closer integration between the U21 and senior set-ups.
"It's very encouraging to see these young players making an impression. The most important thing is that they obviously want to play for Fermanagh and that's always a good starting point. I want to make sure that they are given a fair crack of the whip," said Canavan.
The under 21 squad will undertake strength and conditioning sessions under the watchful eye of senior team mentors Lorcan Martin and Niall Smyth as part of the closer liaison between the two squads.
Fermanagh liaison officer Gerard Tracey spells out the county's commitment to its up and coming talent in no uncertain terms.
"This year players like Kane Connor and Sean Quigley, both very gifted youngsters, made a big impression in our senior team," he said.
"Now we have brought into the squad players like the Cullen twins Che and Lee, Niall Shannon and Ryan Hyde all of whom played for St Michael's College Enniskillen in the MacRory and Hogan Cup competitions, while we are also running the rule over other potential senior squad candidates such as Aidan Breen." Meanwhile, Tempo will be aiming to complete a double coup in Fermanagh when they meet Lisnaskea Emmets in the All County League final on Sunday in what is a repeat of the recent championship decider which was won by Tempo.
However, John McElroy's side were beaten in the Ulster club championship by St Gall's last Sunday and are now anxious to get back on the rails by making it double disappointment for a Lisnaskea side still coming to terms with the recent tragic death of skipper Brian Og Maguire.
Daniel Kille, Niall McElroy and John Woods will again be key figures in their side while Tempo will look to experienced trio Ryan Keenan, Damien Kelly, Darryl Keenan and the prodigiously talented 19-year-old Aidan Breen to spark their double ambition.
Tempo 1-4 Lisnakea 0-2 at half time
Bad game
Skea man sent off after 5 minutes
Tempo won by 7 (1-9 vs 0-5)
Great win given the St Galls defeat last week
Five red cards
So new year and hopefully alot to look forward to.
Better standard of football i a very competitive division 3 which will hopefully bring
our younger players on.
Seems that we have picked up a few serious injuries in the off season
Ronnie, Barry and Cecil supposed to have picked up pretty serious injuries and looks like
they will miss the start of the national league. Suppose it will give us the opportunity to
look at other players
They are also seem to be serious problems with finance within the country.
Fair play to players for trying to do something about it by organising the brawl and a last man
standing.
I would be much happier if players were concentrating on playing matters. The county board
do not seem to be doing a while pile and are miles behind other countries when it comes to
fundraising. The usual of response of having a draw is not enough. More has to be done.
Something like what's done in mayo with cairde mayo would be a good start.
I was up watching a challenge game yesterday in Brewster between the senior and u21 teams. decent game actually. some decent performances by the u21's with the senior team giving new members a run out.
saw that barry mulrone was being put through his paces on the sideline by Lurcan Martin. Looked like a rough bit of work he was doing. good to see him getting the extra work to keep him in shape as an option for later in the year.
2013 could be a good year
So who played well for either team left_peg? Who done the scoring, I have a feeling that will be our big issue this year (just like other years I suppose).
The senior lads won well as you'd expect with rolling subs so right few men got game time. tommy mc elroy, p ward and d keenan all did well. r jones and brian cox were both very strong and fit looking. r hyde was bossed about a bit in midfield. u21 keeper, mc aleer, was in top form. if this keeps up he could be involved with the seniors now that gallagher is out possibly. good to see that there's a link between senior and u21's though. positive move. ere's to a good year.
McAleer is a very good keeper and is also a very confident outfield player as well.
Played midfield last year for St Michael's and Enniskilen Gaels. A real prospect especially with the Ronnie out injured.
Seems that we will play a Donegal development squad tonight with none of last years All Ireland team on duty.
Then St Mary's on Sunday who are also missing a high number of players.
Should be two wins and then a good competitive final game against Monaghan.
Should give Canavan a good chance to look at the squad and see who id up to it
Quote from: FermGael on January 09, 2013, 12:34:58 PM
McAleer is a very good keeper and is also a very confident outfield player as well.
Played midfield last year for St Michael's and Enniskilen Gaels. A real prospect especially with the Ronnie out injured.
Seems that we will play a Donegal development squad tonight with none of last years All Ireland team on duty.
Then St Mary's on Sunday who are also missing a high number of players.
Should be two wins and then a good competitive final game against Monaghan.
Should give Canavan a good chance to look at the squad and see who id up to it
I would imagine there are a few Donegal lads on the fringes with points to prove ...
Is the match still on with this fog?
There will be alot of unhappy players that took half days if it isn't!!
Referee making the call at 6.30
Game on
Anyone at the match last night? Who performed well?
Team for Sunday. First 2 league games will set the tone for the rest of the year.
1) Chris Snow, Ederney
2) Ryan McCluskey, Enniskillen Gaels (Capt)3) Shane Lyons, St Oliver Plunketts4) John Woods, Lisnaskea
5) Marty O'Brien, Devenish6) Brian Cox, Belcoo7) Declan McCusker, Ederney
8 James Sherry, Roslea9) Ryan Jones, Derrygonnelly
10) Tommy McElroy, Brookborough11) Shane McCabe, Belcoo12) Eoin Donnelly, Coa
13) Paul Ward, Derrygonnelly14) Daryl Keenan, Tempo,15) Kane Connor, Belnaleck
Hard to see where scores will come from. Defense to midfield is solid enough.
Pleasantly surprised at how well we have started this campaign! Plenty of scores anyway!
Definitely.
Sean Quigley was hitting free's for fun on Saturday. That's one more reliable free taker than we had last year
We have a good defensive system in place and the fitness seems to be good.
Benefit's of a proper pre season.
Would worry that other teams may catch up with our level's of fitness with the break over the next fortnight.
If anything, the break has come at a bad time for us.
Next 3 games are all against Ulster teams. Antrim away, Monaghan at home and Cavan away. They will be tough games. It's a very tight league and every team has 2 points except us (on four) and Wicklow (on 0). All to play for. Both promotion and relegation are still possible.
I see the Cullen twins were at Tadgh Kennelly's talent ID day in Dublin for Aussie rules.
Can't say I've ever seen the Cullens play. They must be rated very highly to be invited to that training camp? How good are they or are they county material yet?
Division Three going very well but I'd still be cautious, surviving in this division will be a good result. Few tough games to come, things could still go either way.
Anybody at the game at the weekend? Sherry and Quigley will be big losses, particularly Quigley as his form had been good. That said, hopefully a couple of others can come in and do a job. I think 7 points should be enough to stay in the Division.
Bit of a frustrating night on Saturday, Quigley's absence was really felt. Ward and Cecil both had a few bad efforts from frees, Kille in particular after coming on mostly for that job. Missed first one and never looked like converting another after that. Encouraging though that we were well in the game and probably deserved a point despite the fact we are missing quite a few frontliners. Owens, McCluskey and a few Quigleys would really help.
Annoying that after all these years we're still talking about freetaking costing us games.
Truth is they had good bit more quality in the forward line and when Marty went off they dominated the midfield for last 10. Good to see Marty back in the middle and playing well but worrying how it worked out when he left. Finlay has the sweetest left boot I've seen, scored a few gorgeous points.
All in all, not a bad display and still in the shake up near the top. Away to Meath next week will determine whether we spend the next month looking at the teams ahead of us or those nearer the bottom behind us. They are simply bound to improve and a win on Sunday will have given them a boost. Good to see how we respond plus Owens and McCluskey must be getting close to full fitness.
The tail is well and truly waging the dog i see
The club league fixtures have all ready been changed before the first league games of the year
2nd round of games moved forward to Friday the 19th at 7.15. Completely unrealistic with so many club players working in Belfast and Dublin, never mind the players who are flying home at weekends for games.
And then to make matters worse games have been scheduled for Tuesday 30th of April at 7.15.
Absolute joke and it's only the start of the year.
It will only get worse
Bit of a joke with the fixtures at the minute, how was this not all discussed before the fixture list was published? There is still some rumours that some games will go ahead, and others scheduled will be postponed
Junior games or any game for adults on a Friday evening at 6:30pm is a joke. You would think they don't want people to play football
Agree totally
Biggest joke of the lot is the game on a Tuesday night. Are the County Board / Senior Team willing to pay men to take time of work and travel to games?
But the biggest joke it is only the start of the year.
Can you imagine what it will be like if Fermanagh go on a run in the championship?
Time the county board and its delegates grew a set
You would think we were some sort of football super power the way they carry on. As you say its the start of the year, and why does these fixtures affect junior football where boys are only out for a bit of craic?
Well any thoughts on yesterday?
Club football is a complete joke at the minute. County champions not toggling out last week in protest of having to play a starred fixtures. Another round of starred fixtures this weekend and I am sure they will have to do the same on a matter of principle. Fixtures being changed with very little notice and club players getting schedules for games that are useless a week later.
Our county minor team and under 21's have been beaten yet again in the first round of Ulster.
Our minor and U-16 club champions have been continually beaten in the first round of the Ulster club competitions and the same can be said of our senior club champions in the last 5 years.
Our youth set ups have not produced anything in the last 20 years and the county board continue to ignore the problem. Only for St Michael's we would have nothing.
The county board is also badly in debt and they are looking for supporters to pay £120 a year.
Not going to happen because at lot of people would like to know exactly what there money would be spent upon.
Drastic surgery is needed now otherwise, in the long term, things are going to get a lot worse.
Was anyone at the games on Sunday? Sending off's deserved or not? Shame it always seems to play out that they shoot themselves in the foot
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Didn't see Roslea game but shame if both Quigley's are suspended for Ulster club now. I'm sure they are appealing it but top rated ref in county unlikely to have his decisions overturned.
Pity also to see Shane Lyons and Niall Bogue retire from inter-county action. Both gave an awful lot down the years with serious work commitments to juggle. They didn't get attention or awards Marty McGrath got but gave their all for almost as long. Gonna be a lot of holes to fill for new manager next year. Can't buy that type of experience.
Quote from: ExiledGael on October 17, 2013, 04:14:51 PM
Didn't see Roslea game but shame if both Quigley's are suspended for Ulster club now. I'm sure they are appealing it but top rated ref in county unlikely to have his decisions overturned.
Pity also to see Shane Lyons and Niall Bogue retire from inter-county action. Both gave an awful lot down the years with serious work commitments to juggle. They didn't get attention or awards Marty McGrath got but gave their all for almost as long. Gonna be a lot of holes to fill for new manager next year. Can't buy that type of experience.
Bogue and Lyons leaving will be a big loss in terms of experience alright. On the other hand, neither was an automatic starter and it will be good to see some youth come into the squad. Hopefully they turn out to be as good.
Any idea who the 6 nominees are for the manager's job EG?
Afraid not, far too much secrecy surrounding the whole affair.
All we know is who is out of the running - Peter McGinnity, Seamus McEnaney and Rory Gallagher at least. Canavan even said he would still be there in an ideal world (if conditions were met) so I'm not at all hopeful for 2014.
Ryan McCluskey posted an anonymous quote on the matter recently on Twitter: "if it costs so much to run the county team, he would be happy enough to see Fermanagh in division four of the national league,indefinitely". Not sure who is being quoted but given anger of players at the minute they seem to think that is the attitude of the county board.
It's a bit of a mess and I think it will get a lot worse before it gets better.
Could be a winter of retirements, mediation and boycotts. Again.
Brookborough man Gerry Moane set to be installed as Fermanagh manager?
Its not Rory Gallagher anyway
The whole thing is a mess.
Quote from: FermGael on October 23, 2013, 01:04:47 PM
The whole thing is a mess.
they've released a statement that nobody has been rectified as boss yet and that its only speculation.
Poorly done in my opinion. believe there in outrageous debt that's the stumbling block and the new manager in question is the cheapest option available with the limited resources they have.
Certainly not Banty then either! Maybe Marty McGrath might want a go at it? What a crock of dung
GT Moane will save Fermanagh football. A great manager with a good record. Big football man, very enthusiastic, a Fermanagh man through and through. If you cut Gerry Moane he would bleed green. He wont bleed the county dry of funds maybe like Banty would have. Will take no guff and will have the players in good shape.
Ryan McCluskeys tweet last night a bit of a disgrace, at his age and experience, you think he would have a bit of wit.
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 23, 2013, 03:39:20 PM
GT Moane will save Fermanagh football. A great manager with a good record. Big football man, very enthusiastic, a Fermanagh man through and through. If you cut Gerry Moane he would bleed green. He wont bleed the county dry of funds maybe like Banty would have. Will take no guff and will have the players in good shape.
Ryan McCluskeys tweet last night a bit of a disgrace, at his age and experience, you think he would have a bit of wit.
I don't think hes got the respect of the players for one and when you dont have that you've got feck all really. Fermanagh are on the wane.probably back in the mantle as the weakest side in Ulster again a high profile successor to Canavan would have done them no harm at all. All i can see coming from an appointment is a similar situation as a few years ago with a good few players announcing their inter county retirement as a result.
County manager situation a mess, nobody coming out well from this. Dangerous vacuum being left filled with anger, resentment and retirements. Players best to keep their thoughts to themselves too, lot of mud being slung on Twitter from all angles.
Anyway, back to on-field matters, Roslea's chances of run in Ulster have been boosted with two Quigley's back.
Both players' appeals against straight red cards in league match were successful so they are free to face Ballinagh of Cavan.
So how does everyone think Roslea will fair on Sunday? Could Enniskillen be strong contenders at intermediate level? I think both should stand a good chance. Would be good for Fermanagh football if they could both go well.
Gerry Moane has been confirmed I hear.
Quote from: Ultán on October 31, 2013, 03:29:15 PM
Gerry Moane has been confirmed I hear.
Where are you seeing this Ultan?
Quote from: mb80b60 on October 31, 2013, 03:37:14 PM
Quote from: Ultán on October 31, 2013, 03:29:15 PM
Gerry Moane has been confirmed I hear.
Where are you seeing this Ultan?
Have seen a county player and a few other people say it on facebook.
Loads of rumours flying around at the moment.
sooner they sort this the better.
Set to bean announcement on Thursday night.
Seamus Doyle( former Enniskillen manager) is being touted around
Quote from: FermGael on November 04, 2013, 09:37:22 AM
Set to bean announcement on Thursday night.
Seamus Doyle( former Enniskillen manager) is being touted around
Who has he been with since the gaels FG?
As far as i remember he took Derry minors a few years ago.
Currently managing Arboe in Tyrone and there are doing well in the league.
Not sure if its true or not. Seems to be a new name linked everyday but one of the players mentioned on twitter that an ex enniskilen manager was getting the job. Pinch of salt and all that.
Pete McGrath!
So Raymie Johnston is as a selector. Good start from pete but still needs a trainer.
Anyways here is the list for trails this weekend:
Fermanagh Senior Football Trials:
Ederney St Josephs
Christopher Snow
John Irvine
Declan Mc Cusker
Paul Mc Cusker
Stephen McElrone
Michael Mc Aleer
Finbar Gillen...
Enda Ferris
Erne Gaels Belleek
Daniel McGullion
Ryan McGullion
Barry McCann
Ryan Lyons
Belcoo
Brian Cox
Ciaran Flaherty
James McGrath
Niall Leonard
Niall McGovern
Paul McGrath
Ryan Leonard
Jonathan Feeley
Shane McCabe
Irvinestown
Tiarnan Daly
Liam McQuaid
Gary Maguire
James Duffy
Ronan Ormsby
Stephen Sheridan
Maguiresbridge
Matthew Teague
Daniel Teague
Ferghal Hanna
Sean Corrigan
Ryan Hyde
Conor Hyde
Belnaleck
Kane Connor
Che Cullen
Lee Cullen
Ciaran McBrien
Dwayne McNulty
Derrygonnelly
Ryan Jones
Conal Jones
Maurice Cassidy
Eamon McHugh
Paul Ward
Tiarnan Daly
Mickey Jones
Aughadrumsee
Eddie Courtney
Eugene Kearns
Brookeborough
Tommy McElroy
Aiden Boyle
John Mullarkey
Enniskillen
Eoin Hammill
Niall Shannon
Brian McAleer
Paul Mullan
Conor Kelly
Ryan McCluskey
Richard O'Callaghan
Tempo
Aidan Breen
Conor Foy
Matthew Jackson
Niall McElroy
Darryl Keenan
Damian Kelly
Newtownbutler
Jarlat Jackman
Niall Mohan
Eugene Maguire
James Maguire
Roslea
Conor Quigley
Seamie Quigley
Sean Quigley
Niall Cassidy
Peter Lynch
Conor Mulligan
James Sherry
Kevin Cosgrove
Niall Cosgrove
Shane Lynch
Lisnaskea
John Woods
Danielle Kille
Niall McElroy
Kinawley
Tomas Corrigan
Ruairi Corrigan
Coa
Eoin Donnelly
Darren McQuaid
Ryan Hanna
Devenish
Barry Mulrone
Marty O'Brien
Anthony McGuinness
Chris O'Brien
Vincent O'Brien
St Patricks
Eamon Maguire,
Oisin Boyle
Patrick Quaile
some representation there from the Bridge, Irvinestown and Bellnaleck... :-\
Nobody from Teemore ??
Anyone who wanted to attend could be sent by their clubs so wouldn't read too much into that list. St Pat's and Teemore noticable by their absence totally.
Rumour has it Mickey Linden will be part of backroom team also but hasn't been confirmed. Bound to appeal to the players that one.
Club Players Name
Ederney St Josephs Christopher Snow
Belcoo James McGrath
Madden Ronan Gallagher
Lisnaskea John Woods
Belcoo Brian Cox
Maguiresbridge Conor Hyde
Tempo Conor Foy
Devenish Barry Mulrone
Roslea Niall Cassidy
Ederney St Josephs Declan Mc Cusker
Devenish Marty O'Brien
Tempo Aidan Breen
Roslea Conor Quigley
Brookeborough Tommy McElroy
Enniskillen Gaels Ryan McCluskey
Teemore Barry Owens
Enniskillen Gaels Niall Shannon
Tempo Damian Kelly
Coa Eoin Donnelly
Ederney St Josephs Stephen McElrone
Maguiresbridge Ryan Hyde
Belnaleck Dwayne McNulty
Derrygonnelly Ryan Jones
Enniskillen Gaels Richard O'Callaghan
Derrygonnelly Conal Jones
Roslea Sean Quigley
Ederney St Josephs Michael Mc Aleer
Ederney St Josephs Paul Mc Cusker
Kinawley Ruairi Corrigan
Devenish Jason Love
Derrygonnelly Tiarnan Daly
Tempo Niall McElroy
Roslea Seamie Quigley
Tempo Darryl Keenan
Irvinestown Ronan Ormsby
Kinawley Tomas Corrigan
St.Patricks Eamon Maguire
Aughadrumsee Eddie Courtney
Brookeborough Aiden Boyle
Devenish Chris O'Brien
We also acknowledge the players who have not made the panel at this time and thank them for their
effort and commitment throughout the trials. Rest assured that the management team will continue
to monitor matches throughout the season and that the panel is always open for those who show
the correct attitude and effort for senior inter-county football.
Is mise le meas,
Pete McGrath
Fermanagh Senior Team Manager
I hear big Pete has left the helm at Roslea. Big loss to the club.
Huge loss to them.
Look them from division 2 to county champions and the first team since the Gaels to win an Ulster club game.
He stepped down this year from the coaching role within the county as well.
It's a pity Fermanagh did not have a few more Peter McGinnity's.
Any names in the frame for his replacement ?
Some local guy most likely although there could be a few interested parties from further afield due to the success the senior team is currently having
Any truth in the rumours that Damien Kelly and Daryl Keenan have both left the panel?
Big loss if true.
Mark Harte is the new Roslea manager apparently.
Anyone at last nights game? How did the newer players look? Any success stories or was it as bad as it sounds
Liam Donnelly from Trillick in with another taking St Pat's
Colm Courtney taking Maguirsebridge.
As for the match, was not at it.
Hopefully he will unearth two or three players who are of the required standard.
After the McKenna cup, the league panel will be picked.
Clucker has confirmed he will be back.Owens as well. Tommy McElroy back as well.
Add to them the injured players who are currently out (Donnelly, Corrigan, Etc).
Should help improve the panel.
More worrying is the fact we have no minor or U-21 management.
Shocking but not surprising that Fermanagh seem to think getting a "name" as a senior manager will sort out all the problems. There are a few on the Fermanagh panel at the moment who could benefit from a proper U-21 season to bring them on. As for minors it always seems to be the case of waiting on St Mic's to exit competitions before any underage plan is put in place (* I am not sure if the word has ever been used in Fermanagh for underage development)
Fermanagh team named:
C Snow, J Woods, C Cullen, C Quigley, D McCusker, R McCluskey,T Daly, E Donnelly (capt), R O'Callaghan, L Cullen, R Jones, C Jones, P McCusker, B Cox, T Corrigan
Great to see the Cullen twins playing. Represent Belnaleck. One of the smallest clubs in Fermanagh and have been doing some great work at underage. Have moved from playing Reserve football to now playing Intermediate football. Great to see.
Very inexperienced team with 6 players making there national league debut.
That team must be one of the youngest teams Fermanagh have ever fielded. Probably only Clucker, Woods, Donnelly, C Quigley and Snow over 25. Baptism of fire for alot of those young players.
Didn't take long, at least they have been given a yellow card for it. Could go either way now.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/gaelic-games/26112705?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Quote from: ExiledGael on February 09, 2014, 08:11:27 PM
Didn't take long, at least they have been given a yellow card for it. Could go either way now.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/gaelic-games/26112705?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Pete needs big Seamie and Sean and everyone else for that matter. He's not coming down with scoring forwards.
Quote from: orangeman on February 10, 2014, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: ExiledGael on February 09, 2014, 08:11:27 PM
Didn't take long, at least they have been given a yellow card for it. Could go either way now.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/gaelic-games/26112705?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Pete needs big Seamie and Sean and everyone else for that matter. He's not coming down with scoring forwards.
There is no issue with Sean.
Seamie could be one of the best footballers in Ireland.
But you cannot play a 90 Minute soccer match regardless of the level on the day of a league fixture and expect to be involved.
This Seamie boyo seems to be some clown, roaded by Canavan, then this behaviour, he must have no respect for his fellow county players or supporters.
Quote from: Man Marker on February 10, 2014, 01:31:53 PM
This Seamie boyo seems to be some clown, roaded by Canavan, then this behaviour, he must have no respect for his fellow county players or supporters.
Sounds like tubes we've had in Antrim
He's got more talent than anyone I've ever seen though, and I mean anyone, thats why its such a pity - he definitely should be on a bigger stage.
The good thing is though that there was a win without him versus Sligo. That should be the wake-up call, this show is going on without you, and if you're to be part of it you'll have to toe the line. I think he'll always try to push it, under Canavan he was the main man and he knew it, but Sean and Tomas have matured and are in great form, so losing him wouldnt be the disaster it was 2 years ago; rather than being able to dictate on his terms, hes gonna have to listen to Pete.
The three of them would be some ff line.
He's a serious talent to be fair.
There's bound to be a way of getting him to buy in.
Quote from: haranguerer on February 10, 2014, 02:11:31 PM
He's got more talent than anyone I've ever seen though, and I mean anyone, thats why its such a pity - he definitely should be on a bigger stage.
The good thing is though that there was a win without him versus Sligo. That should be the wake-up call, this show is going on without you, and if you're to be part of it you'll have to toe the line. I think he'll always try to push it, under Canavan he was the main man and he knew it, but Sean and Tomas have matured and are in great form, so losing him wouldnt be the disaster it was 2 years ago; rather than being able to dictate on his terms, hes gonna have to listen to Pete.
The three of them would be some ff line.
Agree completely.
He seems like an absolute tool. Playin a Fermanagh and Western league soccer game on same day as a league gamev Sligo? Arsehole i wouldnt want to play with. Obv loves courtin attention.
Will never put shoulder fully to wheel. Id bin him off.
Just unbelievable, i honestly dont believe this isnt an antrim story
Egomaniac.
And why is he always carrying weight? Wouldnt count in summer at that weight
I would cut our losses and get rid.
He has had enough chances and always blown it. If Pete takes him back he will let him down when it really matters like he did before the Championship in 2012 against Down.
Build a team without him is the way to go, he will never learn.
If there's nobody better than Seamie, I'd be doing my best to work with him.
You can't always use the stick. It mightn't work all the time.
Pete will sort him.
Definitely loves courting attention - hes a showman, thats for sure, and his playing was undoubtedly for divilment, testing out the new man, rather than any desire to play the soccer game (incidentally apparently he scored 'the best goal I've ever seen in the flesh', according to a few lads who were at it), nor a protest at not starting that evening.
He knows the craic now though, hes got a lot of abuse for playing the soccer match, and will have realised that everyone is on McGraths side - previously, without Seamie we were scoring f**k all, so very few would have been in favour of getting rid of him no matter his transgressions, but thats not the case any more. Nor is it the case that we need to build a team round him, or, more accurately, that if he leaves fermanagh in the lurch, that that game plan will need to be changed. With 1 or both quigleys you've got the long ball option anyway, Sean has really stepped out of his brothers shadow, and can play a similar role, so if Seamie leaves a week before championship, it'll not be the complete upheaval it was before.
I do know one thing, if hes on his game, there isnt any player in Ireland I'd rather watch, and not just for the scoretaking etc, but also his showmanship. I dont think anyone really wants to watch 15 Kieran McGeeneys or the like, I know I dont.
A man that was in the running for the Fermanagh job seems to be in big bother with the HMRC.
Its none of our business.
Quote from: haranguerer on February 11, 2014, 09:26:33 AM
Its none of our business.
The majority of discussions on a forum is probably none of our business.
Have decided I need to give myself a few days after a Fermanagh match before I can comment! :-X
It was very poor stuff on Sunday, we were nowhere near deserving to sneak that game. I am struggling to find positives in the performance, and almost cannot believe we managed to score as much. The defence was a shambles for massive portions of the game. We kept going for short kick-outs even when Antrim were pushing up on us, to the point where the 2nd Antrim goal was an accident waiting to happen. Then we decided we couldn't go short, and punted them right down the throats of bigger Antrim men with very little traffic around them to prevent clean catches. The forward line until Owens was moved up there were powder puff, and Quigleys free's from the ground were consistently poor, I couldn't understand why he wasn't taking them from his hands when he is well capable of landing them from that distance.
The ref was bad, but didn't affect the outcome. Some of the free's and non-free's were bewildering
Away to Laois...tough draw :-\
What's the QF draw now lads and any word when those games to be played?
Who's through?
RD 1
Tempo 0-10 Devenish 0-14
Enniskillen 0-6 Erne Gaels 2-8
Teemore 1-9 Derrygonnelly 0-11
Roslea 1-11 Lisnaskea 0-9
QFS
Roslea v Belcoo
Devenish v Erne Gaels
St Josephs v Donagh
Teemore v Kinawley
At last nights County board meeting Fermanagh GAA County Committee ratified all managers from last year:
Seniors: Pete McGrath
U21: Vinny Connolly
Minors: Niall Jackman
Preview to the Fermanagh Senior Championship Final and Intermediate Championship Final this weekend.
Featuring: Paul Ward (Fermanagh Player) Pauric McGurn (Host) Martin McGrath (Former Fermanagh Player and Allstar) Peter McGinnety (Former Fermanagh Player - Allstar and Former Roslea Manager - Now Aghyaran Manager Co Tyrone)
Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKgMwWm_jqU
Creator https://twitter.com/PauricMcGurn
Well done to Derrylin winning the IFC last night. A mad shower of headers the lot of them!
Indeed.
Great result for Derrylin in what has been a very tough year for all involved with the club.
I would safely bet that most of the team are still in the Mountview since last night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9PJuFFeNk0&sns=tw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9PJuFFeNk0&sns=tw)
Fermanagh GAA TV - A preview of the Senior Football League Finals 2014 and other local GAA news with Pauric McGurn and special guests, Mark Murphy of Derrylin O'Connells and John McElroy of manager of Tempo Maguires.
Creator: https://twitter.com/PauricMcGurn (https://twitter.com/PauricMcGurn)
Derrygonnelly defeated Enniskillen 5.12 to 2.1 in theFermanagh u16 league final last night at Brewster Park .
GAA Coaching Clinic
Date: Saturday 15th November 2014
Venue: St Columban's College Kilkeel
Cost: £10 (Includes Tea/Coffee and information booklet)
** Proceeds for the development of GAA in St Columbans**
AGENDA:
10am: Welcome
10.10am: Aidan O' Rourke (Development Manager Queens Gaa)
"Building elements of a game-plan into training sessions"
- Clearly defined game-plan goals
- Fundamentals of play with and without the ball
- Transitions during games
**Practical Session Outdoor**
11.45am: Tea/Coffee/Snack
12.00pm: Conor Laverty (Trinity College Gaa Development Officer)
"Developing Attacking Play in your team"
**Practical Session Outdoor**
Contact Steven Poacher to confirm place via text to 07779780919 or email to stevepoacher@hotmail.com **Payment on the day**
Well done Derrylin today against a strongly fancied St Paul's team
Preview to the ulster club q-final between Roslea and St Eunan's featuring Brian McEniff and Thomas McCaffery (Fermanagh Senior)
Fermanagh GAA TV - Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze_zbkSKyXE&sns=fb (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze_zbkSKyXE&sns=fb)
Fermanagh GAA TV - A preview of the 2015 season for the Senior Football panel and other local GAA news with Pauric McGurn and special guests, Fermanagh Captain Eoin Donnelly & and Fermanagh Manager Pete McGrath.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ByU0TulRdU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ByU0TulRdU)
Fermanagh GAA TV - Pauric McGurn talks to the Quigley Brothers, Seamus, Conor and Sean about the successful Roslea Shamrocks season and their future with the Fermanagh squad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT11M5p7Wd0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT11M5p7Wd0)
The Fermanagh team sheet went viral on Twitter last week. Fermanagh V Queens game https://twitter.com/FermanaghGAA/status/551681445547483136 (https://twitter.com/FermanaghGAA/status/551681445547483136)
Great work by Fermanagh GAA's New PRO Pauric McGurn https://twitter.com/PauricMcGurn (https://twitter.com/PauricMcGurn)
Seems to be a few green shoots this year for a change.
No point getting carried away but things look a bit better than they did last year
Quote from: FermGael on January 12, 2015, 02:52:39 PM
Seems to be a few green shoots this year for a change.
No point getting carried away but things look a bit better than they did last year
That's good to see, but as you say it's early days. Haven't made it to either game - who have you been impressed with? Were we very defensive yesterday?
agree, nice to see a mini resurgence and back to back wins, although one was Queens, beating Derry should be good for confidence. Looks promising for another game in the McKenna Cup...
bodes well for a decent league campaign and being on the easier side of the championship draw would like to think there is a good upbeat camp in place and another day out in Clones on the third Sunday in July on the cards for us :o
Whats the story with Irvinestown? ? Have they got a manager sorted yet? Have they started pre season yet?
Sean Quigley Ulster GAA Writers Player of the Month for January 2015
Pauric McGurn interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saEU-9d4oxw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saEU-9d4oxw)
http://www.ulstergaawriters.com/s%20quigley.html
Well any thoughts on this years campaign?
We seem to have gotten off to a positive start
Seems to have started solidly enough. Dunno if any of the new panel members have stood out, but its fairly difficult to make an impression when a fair number of team mates are trying to stand out as well
There seems to be a bit of confidence through the spine of the team. The established lads seem a bit more sure of themselves than this stage last season
Get the club championship reports up lads
What can be said.
First senior championship win in 51 years.
Fair play to the Leckers.
I see Enniskillen Gaels back in a county senior championship final. They used to dominate Fermanagh football for a period but went completely downhill for a long time.
They must be on the rise again? Didnt they have a really good minor team a couple of years ago that maybe got to an Ulster final?
Yeah, I think something like 8/9 of that Ulster Minor winning team start for them. They've done well to get to the final, but I'd fancy either Derrygonnelly/Kinawley ( fancy Derrygonnelly to come through the replay) to beat them. They should be the dominant force in the next 3/4 years though.
Enniskillen won the intermediate championship last year.
There first appearance in a Fermanagh senior final since 2006.
Derrygonnelly would still be well fancied to win this year's championship but made hard work of it last weekend when they let Kinawley back into the game twice after it looked like the match was won .
Derrygonnelly are bringing quite a few younger players through as well.
Gaels have been on the easier side of the draw and have a lot of their Ulster minor team playing .