Sam Maguire permutations

[armaghniac]

Difference between a Provincial Final ( 1st in ?? years) and a Group game to sort out final places where both teams are already through.

If Armagh end up playing Galway then that was an entertaining game last year and should attract a good crowd to Croker.
But of course having won Ulster we'll be playing Clare which will not draw quite the same numbers.

[Armagh18]

Difference between a Provincial Final ( 1st in ?? years) and a Group game to sort out final places where both teams are already through.

If Armagh end up playing Galway then that was an entertaining game last year and should attract a good crowd to Croker.
But of course having won Ulster we'll be playing Clare which will not draw quite the same numbers.

Was a decent crowd in Newry for us drawing with Clare in the league a few years back. I would say teams will go all out to win their final game and top the group, much more advantageous to win your group than come second.

[seafoid]

Difference between a Provincial Final ( 1st in ?? years) and a Group game to sort out final places where both teams are already through.

If Armagh end up playing Galway then that was an entertaining game last year and should attract a good crowd to Croker.
But of course having won Ulster we'll be playing Clare which will not draw quite the same numbers.

Have Armagh been practicing penalties ?

[dec]

A lot of empty seats in Limerick

[Blowitupref]

A lot of empty seats in Limerick

Munster GAA should have given Clare a home game.

[From the Bunker]

A lot of empty seats in Limerick

Tippy tappy stuff!

[anportmorforjfc]

Clare are shocking!

[From the Bunker]

Kerry get rewarded as a 1st seed and all the advantages that carries for winning a nothing Munster Championship.

[Wildweasel74]

Clare playing way too open, Derry cut through them in the league and they haven't learned. You need close out the space inside their 45, 'they are way to open.

[Blowitupref]

Clare playing way too open, Derry cut through them in the league and they haven't learned. You need close out the space inside their 45, 'they are way to open.

Set up so naively alright, a surprise with such experienced manager in Colm Collins.

[Eire90]

a munster final and loads of empty seats

[Wildweasel74]

Fball got to the point where you got Kerry, Dublin, Galway a fair bit ahead of everybody, then Mayo, Tyrone, Derry, Armagh, Roscommon, who might beat one of the above but not two of them in the same year. After that nothing. It's went the way of hurling years ago were some teams on the day could do a upset but not any more. What the f**k going on in Cork, the size of the place.

[imtommygunn]

Yeah those would be my thoughts too. Football and hurling becoming similar with massive gap between some teams and the rest. In reality Sligo aren't actually too bad a team - Galway are just brilliant (and still probably not the best).

It gets worse because lesser teams just can't get the commitment because players know this and won't put the time in either. I don't know how it gets out of this cycle either.

Cork very poor you're right. They have been competing with Kerry in the underage too. I was reading a bit about that and they reckon terrible decisions have been made wrt management. Whoever it was even said counihan, who got an ai, was poor and but for him they'd have more.

[Wildweasel74]

Nothing worse than a ref who tries to even up a game. That was a blatant Kerry penalty there.

[Wildweasel74]

For all the complaints of the way Derry set up, teams like Clare and Sligo need start using that as a starting point.