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[Parking at the pumps when you're not buying fuel]

Cigarette butts on the ground
Parking at the pumps when you're not buying fuel
Indicating without checking your mirror first/hogging the middle or outer lane

Was actually guilty of this a couple of times recently although there was plenty of free pumps 

A bugbear of mine is people who can't be assed to actually return shopping trolleys and instead leave them lying about the carpark

sod that, I want my pound back

If 9 houses in a culture de sac didn't mind Irish signs and one Loyalist mouthpiece was vehemently opposed to them you know who'd get their way.

In fairness, at least in Belfast that's not what happens.

Forget the "it's the language of the country" guff from people who can barely speak a word of it. It doesn't make you any more of a republican to come out with lines like that. Especially when it's demonstrably false.

For years the the accusation has been that nationalists politicise the Irish language, and that we want to force it on "themmuns". Pushing Irish signs in where they're not particularly wanted or actively unwanted only gives ammo to that argument. It achieves nothing other than wasting money. Some people don't speak and don't want to speak Irish. And that's fine.

And of course this guy sticks his oar in with more of his own guff. The Irish language is nothing to do with republicanism. And how do you know how much of it I can speak??
Of course it's fine for people who don't want to speak it. The reverse is also true. Plenty of people do want to speak it and are learning.
Personally it doesn't bother me if there are or aren't Irish road signs in any area though and I certainly wouldn't want to see them pushed where they are not wanted. The language is for all and I do agree with you about not giving certain folk opportunities to demonise it.

[extortionate amounts we already pay]

Daft move all round to be raising any type of rates or taxes at the minute, given the extortionate amounts we already pay and the ridiculous state of silly little things like hospitals and roads..

Where do you think the money for hospitals and roads will come from?

Ok, so with nothing more coming in, presumably you think everything can and should be funded through spending cuts?

I'd fully sign up to public sector reform, but we all know it'll never happen.

Welfare reform? Good luck with that.

Perhaps you disapprove of how so many of your fellow county men (as openly discussed on this forum) readily avoid paying VAT and insist on cash. You'd advocate a real clamp down on this, yeah?

Where on earth is the money going? The ordinary man is paying more than his fair share of VAT, tax and rates. Start by taxing the 1% of earners a lot more.

Not too bothered by John up the road saving a few quid by doing cash jobs, a drop in the ocean compared to the top earners

We all want the benefits of the public sector, education, hospitals, infrastructure, social housing and so on, but when asked to pay for it lets just hit the big earners for it, shouldn't have to work like that as they are actually paying more anyways

The money coming in is being wasted one court case after another, there are enquiries every week, there is bickering over street names in Irish, why the f**k should there be street names in Irish in Loyalist areas, neutral maybe, Catholic yes but ffs cop on..

Wasting money on too many other shite things, too many to mention

why shouldnt there be Irish street signs anywhere in Ireland? It is the language of the country. And really, breaking it into catholic v protestant?

This is a personal view, but I see absolutely no benefit of having it in Loyalist areas, it works well in Wales as they are a patriotic country, albeit still want to be part of the UK  but they have no history of what we have.

It's not a deal breaker, all it does is provide ammunition for the likes of the TUV to fire bullets

the likes of the TUV cant be allowed to control things or turn the Irish language, our language, into something controversial. I may be wrong but I would say there are people in those areas/communities would like, or at least not mind, Irish street signs. There are people form those communities who learn the language after all

[extortionate amounts we already pay]

Daft move all round to be raising any type of rates or taxes at the minute, given the extortionate amounts we already pay and the ridiculous state of silly little things like hospitals and roads..

Where do you think the money for hospitals and roads will come from?

Ok, so with nothing more coming in, presumably you think everything can and should be funded through spending cuts?

I'd fully sign up to public sector reform, but we all know it'll never happen.

Welfare reform? Good luck with that.

Perhaps you disapprove of how so many of your fellow county men (as openly discussed on this forum) readily avoid paying VAT and insist on cash. You'd advocate a real clamp down on this, yeah?

Where on earth is the money going? The ordinary man is paying more than his fair share of VAT, tax and rates. Start by taxing the 1% of earners a lot more.

Not too bothered by John up the road saving a few quid by doing cash jobs, a drop in the ocean compared to the top earners

We all want the benefits of the public sector, education, hospitals, infrastructure, social housing and so on, but when asked to pay for it lets just hit the big earners for it, shouldn't have to work like that as they are actually paying more anyways

The money coming in is being wasted one court case after another, there are enquiries every week, there is bickering over street names in Irish, why the f**k should there be street names in Irish in Loyalist areas, neutral maybe, Catholic yes but ffs cop on..

Wasting money on too many other shite things, too many to mention

why shouldnt there be Irish street signs anywhere in Ireland? It is the language of the country. And really, breaking it into catholic v protestant?

Tonto1888 you're right, Kieran did give a generally fair review of the match over the course of the interview.

But focusing for so long on one decision by the referee doesn't sit right with me.

Armagh were absolutely brilliant to watch last night. They really were. But the result wasn't taken from them by a refereeing decision. The truth is that Galway made more out of less, and the more that Armagh earned was decimated by individual errors from their players, more than on a par with anything the referee did.

That's where the game was lost. It happens. Don't make it about the referee.

I agree with ye though I do think he was responding to a question. Even with the breech given, we should have dealt with the ball in. We do that and theres no issue. Dont think any Armagh person is blaming the ref. We were the masters of our own downfall on Saturday evening

It is of course difficult not to get angry with refereeing decisions in tight games.

But when your keeper has fluffed two goals, and your forwards kicked a dozen shots wide/short that we'd expect under-16 forwards to convert, making a big deal out of a single refereeing  decision is just daft.

The referee did not cost Armagh the game. Just repeat it a few times Geezer. Then regroup.

Refs need called out more on basic errors for sure. But it didn't cost us the game, had it in our own hands and made a balls of it.

Do they?

I'd suggest this. If a manager wants to to hang a referee for one decision, then he first has to hang any players of his who made a bad decision during the game.

Call out by all means. But don't hide behind your own facts.

Fair is fair.

If you're talking about McGeeney he talked about missed chances and mistakes before talking about that breech

Hard to concede three goals against a team like Galway and still be in the game.  Armagh have a lot to work on in that regard. No one to blame but themselves in not winning last night,

On the referee I thought he was spectacularly inconsistent I could understand why the black card might have been yellow but how was the yellow a minute later not black?

On the last free I would need to see it again but it looked to me like Cassidy had the hand up indicating an advantage, if he did then the free shouldn't have been moved if he didn't then it was brainless from McQuillan hopefully he will learn.

As for the breach offence that lead to the goal, as stupid as the rule is I think that was by rule the correct decision.  McElroy was not carrying, receiving or intercepting the ball or attempting to do so therefore the 20m free is the punishment.  That said I will make 2 points about that.  Firstly it is far too severe a punishment for the offence and as seen last night has the potential to change games for innocuous offence.  Secondly Armagh  scored a point in the first half during a clear Galway breach why weren't they offered a choice of a 20m free or a 2 point free.  The advantage rule needs looked at in that regard.

So whilst I thought Cassidy wasn't good last night and isn't a great ref I wouldn't blame the defeat on him.

As I understand it Creally and McCambridge are back training and McKay and McMullen will be back for later stages of league/start of championship.  All will be needed I feel as Armagh whilst still in the second or third group of teams have a difficult season ahead of them.

Finally and not to go back to it again but with the exception of the solo and go I do not like the new rules at all.  I think they take away from many of the skills of the game.  I think they devalue great scoring and I think they do not reward better teams who dominate games for long periods (not a reference to last night).  I also think they are very hard to follow if you are at the games.   

The ref didn't cost us the game but the breach call on Joe was the wrong decision apparently. Admittedly I didn't see it. It going by what has been said since it was. At worst a free form had way

Couldn't have been a free from the half way line. It was either not a breach or it was the correct decision. Frees from the half way line are only for deliberate breaches.

Only going by what is been said afterwards but if he's not interfering it should have been from the half way
A free from half way for a deliberate breech doesn't make sense

Yes what's been said has been wrong.

As stupid as it is. Deliberate breaches are frees from half way line  Accidental breaches are 20m frees that can be taken outside.

2.14 During play, a team must have at least four players (which may include the goalkeeper) in their half of the
field and at least three outfield players in the opposition half of the field.

Exception:
A breach of this Rule does not occur where the player(s) who would otherwise cause the breach
(a) have do so unintentionally
(b) are within 4m of the halfway line
(c) are not interfering with play
(d) are not interfering with the opponent, and
(e) are not gaining an advantage


4.35 To commit a breach of Rule 2.14 (Set Play) in the act of carrying, receiving or intercepting the ball, or attempting to do so.
Penalty
Free kick from the place where the player crossed the halfway line.

4.36 To commit a breach of Rule 2.14 (Set Play) other than in the circumstances outlined in Rule 4.35.
Penalty
Free kick from the centre point of the offending team's 20m line. However, the opponents of the team conceding the
foul may take a free kick from any point outside the 40m arc.

Thy Makes no sense whatsoever
However, going by the exceptions the breach against McIlroy should not have been given if what geezer said was correct

Hard to concede three goals against a team like Galway and still be in the game.  Armagh have a lot to work on in that regard. No one to blame but themselves in not winning last night,

On the referee I thought he was spectacularly inconsistent I could understand why the black card might have been yellow but how was the yellow a minute later not black?

On the last free I would need to see it again but it looked to me like Cassidy had the hand up indicating an advantage, if he did then the free shouldn't have been moved if he didn't then it was brainless from McQuillan hopefully he will learn.

As for the breach offence that lead to the goal, as stupid as the rule is I think that was by rule the correct decision.  McElroy was not carrying, receiving or intercepting the ball or attempting to do so therefore the 20m free is the punishment.  That said I will make 2 points about that.  Firstly it is far too severe a punishment for the offence and as seen last night has the potential to change games for innocuous offence.  Secondly Armagh  scored a point in the first half during a clear Galway breach why weren't they offered a choice of a 20m free or a 2 point free.  The advantage rule needs looked at in that regard.

So whilst I thought Cassidy wasn't good last night and isn't a great ref I wouldn't blame the defeat on him.

As I understand it Creally and McCambridge are back training and McKay and McMullen will be back for later stages of league/start of championship.  All will be needed I feel as Armagh whilst still in the second or third group of teams have a difficult season ahead of them.

Finally and not to go back to it again but with the exception of the solo and go I do not like the new rules at all.  I think they take away from many of the skills of the game.  I think they devalue great scoring and I think they do not reward better teams who dominate games for long periods (not a reference to last night).  I also think they are very hard to follow if you are at the games.   

The ref didn't cost us the game but the breach call on Joe was the wrong decision apparently. Admittedly I didn't see it. It going by what has been said since it was. At worst a free form had way

Couldn't have been a free from the half way line. It was either not a breach or it was the correct decision. Frees from the half way line are only for deliberate breaches.

Only going by what is been said afterwards but if he's not interfering it should have been from the half way
A free from half way for a deliberate breech doesn't make sense

Hard to concede three goals against a team like Galway and still be in the game.  Armagh have a lot to work on in that regard. No one to blame but themselves in not winning last night,

On the referee I thought he was spectacularly inconsistent I could understand why the black card might have been yellow but how was the yellow a minute later not black?

On the last free I would need to see it again but it looked to me like Cassidy had the hand up indicating an advantage, if he did then the free shouldn't have been moved if he didn't then it was brainless from McQuillan hopefully he will learn.

As for the breach offence that lead to the goal, as stupid as the rule is I think that was by rule the correct decision.  McElroy was not carrying, receiving or intercepting the ball or attempting to do so therefore the 20m free is the punishment.  That said I will make 2 points about that.  Firstly it is far too severe a punishment for the offence and as seen last night has the potential to change games for innocuous offence.  Secondly Armagh  scored a point in the first half during a clear Galway breach why weren't they offered a choice of a 20m free or a 2 point free.  The advantage rule needs looked at in that regard.

So whilst I thought Cassidy wasn't good last night and isn't a great ref I wouldn't blame the defeat on him.

As I understand it Creally and McCambridge are back training and McKay and McMullen will be back for later stages of league/start of championship.  All will be needed I feel as Armagh whilst still in the second or third group of teams have a difficult season ahead of them.

Finally and not to go back to it again but with the exception of the solo and go I do not like the new rules at all.  I think they take away from many of the skills of the game.  I think they devalue great scoring and I think they do not reward better teams who dominate games for long periods (not a reference to last night).  I also think they are very hard to follow if you are at the games.   

The ref didn't cost us the game but the breach call on Joe was the wrong decision apparently. Admittedly I didn't see it. It going by what has been said since it was. At worst a free form had way

Indiscipline at the finish cost Armagh the game; hopefully this is a lesson learned. Thought Armagh were slightly the better team, but gave away some stupid goals to keep Galway in it.

I discipline at rhe end yeah but I'm more worried about the 2 goals we gifted Galway and the chances we missed. That cost Armagh more

Left that behind. Could come back to bite us at the end of the league 

Good for Armagh to get up and running with a win and comfortable one at that however conceding 0-18 to such a patched up Monaghan team is a slight concern.

And on top of that ignominy, Armagh took an eternity to score a goal against a junior defense. Everybody in Armagh who got a little bit of pleasure out of that performance should take an ice cold shower

can only beat whats in fornt of you. If you cant take some sort of pleasure form any win then whats the point

Rose Tattoo - Dropkick Murphys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d8SzG4FPyM&list=RD9d8SzG4FPyM&start_radio=1

I see he also says Dublin can win the Sam Maguire this year... kind of explains where he's at 

a fair point haha