Sam Maguire permutations

[blanketattack]

5 times between 2013 and last year  the same 4 counties - Dublin, Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone - featured in the All Ireland semi finals.
This was the firm .
Now Dublin are playing Mayo and Kerry are playing Tyrone. So there are 2 semi final spots for new teams. If the winners of Dublin/Mayo were to play Kerry/Tyrone in the semi there would be a slot in the final for a new team.

If Derry beat Cork, then the winner of Dublin/Mayo can't meet the winner of Tyrone/Kerry in the semi-final.
If Tyrone win, they automatically meet Derry in the semi-final with no need for a draw.
If Kerry win, they can't meet Dublin or Mayo in the semi-final, Kerry would have a 50:50 chance of Derry or the winner of Armagh/Monaghan

[GAABoardMod5]

5 times between 2013 and last year  the same 4 counties - Dublin, Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone - featured in the All Ireland semi finals.
This was the firm .
Now Dublin are playing Mayo and Kerry are playing Tyrone. So there are 2 semi final spots for new teams. If the winners of Dublin/Mayo were to play Kerry/Tyrone in the semi there would be a slot in the final for a new team.

If Derry beat Cork, then the winner of Dublin/Mayo can't meet the winner of Tyrone/Kerry in the semi-final.
If Tyrone win, they automatically meet Derry in the semi-final with no need for a draw.
If Kerry win, they can't meet Dublin or Mayo in the semi-final, Kerry would have a 50:50 chance of Derry or the winner of Armagh/Monaghan

Unless all 3 teams from Group 1 win their quarter-finals, ie Kerry, Cork and Mayo.  Then 2 of them must meet in a semi-final.

[blanketattack]

5 times between 2013 and last year  the same 4 counties - Dublin, Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone - featured in the All Ireland semi finals.
This was the firm .
Now Dublin are playing Mayo and Kerry are playing Tyrone. So there are 2 semi final spots for new teams. If the winners of Dublin/Mayo were to play Kerry/Tyrone in the semi there would be a slot in the final for a new team.

If Derry beat Cork, then the winner of Dublin/Mayo can't meet the winner of Tyrone/Kerry in the semi-final.
If Tyrone win, they automatically meet Derry in the semi-final with no need for a draw.
If Kerry win, they can't meet Dublin or Mayo in the semi-final, Kerry would have a 50:50 chance of Derry or the winner of Armagh/Monaghan

Unless all 3 teams from Group 1 win their quarter-finals, ie Kerry, Cork and Mayo.  Then 2 of them must meet in a semi-final.

Yes, hence my "If Derry beat Cork" predicate

[GAABoardMod5]

5 times between 2013 and last year  the same 4 counties - Dublin, Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone - featured in the All Ireland semi finals.
This was the firm .
Now Dublin are playing Mayo and Kerry are playing Tyrone. So there are 2 semi final spots for new teams. If the winners of Dublin/Mayo were to play Kerry/Tyrone in the semi there would be a slot in the final for a new team.

If Derry beat Cork, then the winner of Dublin/Mayo can't meet the winner of Tyrone/Kerry in the semi-final.
If Tyrone win, they automatically meet Derry in the semi-final with no need for a draw.
If Kerry win, they can't meet Dublin or Mayo in the semi-final, Kerry would have a 50:50 chance of Derry or the winner of Armagh/Monaghan

Unless all 3 teams from Group 1 win their quarter-finals, ie Kerry, Cork and Mayo.  Then 2 of them must meet in a semi-final.

Yes, hence my "If Derry beat Cork" predicate

OK...didn't see that "If Derry beat Cork" applied to all 3 lines of your post.

[blanketattack]

5 times between 2013 and last year  the same 4 counties - Dublin, Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone - featured in the All Ireland semi finals.
This was the firm .
Now Dublin are playing Mayo and Kerry are playing Tyrone. So there are 2 semi final spots for new teams. If the winners of Dublin/Mayo were to play Kerry/Tyrone in the semi there would be a slot in the final for a new team.

If (Derry beat Cork) then
{    the winner of Dublin/Mayo can't meet the winner of Tyrone/Kerry in the semi-final.
     If Tyrone win, they automatically meet Derry in the semi-final with no need for a draw.
     If Kerry win, they can't meet Dublin or Mayo in the semi-final, Kerry would have a 50:50 chance of Derry or the winner of Armagh/Monaghan
}

Unless all 3 teams from Group 1 win their quarter-finals, ie Kerry, Cork and Mayo.  Then 2 of them must meet in a semi-final.

Yes, hence my "If Derry beat Cork" predicate

OK...didn't see that "If Derry beat Cork" applied to all 3 lines of your post.

OK, now fixed for better legibility 🤓

[tbrick18]

5 times between 2013 and last year  the same 4 counties - Dublin, Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone - featured in the All Ireland semi finals.
This was the firm .
Now Dublin are playing Mayo and Kerry are playing Tyrone. So there are 2 semi final spots for new teams. If the winners of Dublin/Mayo were to play Kerry/Tyrone in the semi there would be a slot in the final for a new team.

If (Derry beat Cork) then
{    the winner of Dublin/Mayo can't meet the winner of Tyrone/Kerry in the semi-final.
     If Tyrone win, they automatically meet Derry in the semi-final with no need for a draw.
     If Kerry win, they can't meet Dublin or Mayo in the semi-final, Kerry would have a 50:50 chance of Derry or the winner of Armagh/Monaghan
}

Unless all 3 teams from Group 1 win their quarter-finals, ie Kerry, Cork and Mayo.  Then 2 of them must meet in a semi-final.

Yes, hence my "If Derry beat Cork" predicate

OK...didn't see that "If Derry beat Cork" applied to all 3 lines of your post.

OK, now fixed for better legibility 🤓

Spot the software developer!

I honestly think Derry v Cork is a 50/50, yet there seem to be very few who are speaking about Cork.
That will suit them down to the ground coming in under the radar despite having some huge performances and results recently.
In fact, their results have been more impressive than Derry's.

It's going to be tight.

[God14]

Paddy Power have Derry at 4/11. I make that about right

[smort]

Paddy Power have Derry at 4/11. I make that about right

Derry will probably score 4.11

[blanketattack]

I don't think Cork are ready for Derry.
Roscommon are a poor version of Derry. Even Derry in the league won't prepare Cork for what's coming Sunday.
I wonder is Rory Gallagher still being sought for input from the Derry management on the QT or is he completely gone?
And sure, isn't David Clifford only a poor man's Shane McGuigan if you listen to Paul Flynn?

[seafoid]

5 times between 2013 and last year  the same 4 counties - Dublin, Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone - featured in the All Ireland semi finals.
This was the firm .
Now Dublin are playing Mayo and Kerry are playing Tyrone. So there are 2 semi final spots for new teams. If the winners of Dublin/Mayo were to play Kerry/Tyrone in the semi there would be a slot in the final for a new team.

If Derry beat Cork, then the winner of Dublin/Mayo can't meet the winner of Tyrone/Kerry in the semi-final.
If Tyrone win, they automatically meet Derry in the semi-final with no need for a draw.
If Kerry win, they can't meet Dublin or Mayo in the semi-final, Kerry would have a 50:50 chance of Derry or the winner of Armagh/Monaghan

Unless all 3 teams from Group 1 win their quarter-finals, ie Kerry, Cork and Mayo.  Then 2 of them must meet in a semi-final.

Unless the Group 1 teams go straight to Champions League.

[Wildweasel74]

Why can't Kerry met Dublin, last year set up no relevance this year?

[statto]

Why can't Kerry met Dublin, last year set up no relevance this year?

I presume they can if Monaghan and Cork win or Cork and Armagh win as will be no repeat pairings?   

[blanketattack]

Why can't Kerry met Dublin, last year set up no relevance this year?

If Derry beat Cork, Kerry can't meet Dublin because Derry can't meet Monaghan (Round 1) or Armagh (Ulster Final).
And if Derry can't meet Armagh/Monaghan then the opposite fixture in the semi can't occur either.
So in fact regardless of who comes out of Kerry-Tyrone and Dublin-Mayo, the fixture Kerry/Tyrone v Dublin/Mayo can't occur for the semi (if Derry beat Cork)

[Milltown Row2]

56 pages of wondering who'll play who! Holy f**k

[maddog]

I'd just worry about the next 70mins of football first.