Should An Glenn object?

[tonto1888]

Forgive me if its already been discussed (I haven't read all of the thread), but is there any reason why the GAA can't do substitutions the way they do them in soccer?

At the halfway point on the sideline, players come off before substitute goes on. Ref or linesman oversees it?

You see how long it takes a soccer player to walk off when he wants to waste time? Then treble that as a player at the far corner of a GAA pitch (a smart manager would tell the player coming off to head to the far corner before sub is signalled) would have nearly 3 times as far to go, at walking or limping pace this would take too much time

Gie them 20s to get off then yellow card them if they arent off in that time

[westbound]

Forgive me if its already been discussed (I haven't read all of the thread), but is there any reason why the GAA can't do substitutions the way they do them in soccer?

At the halfway point on the sideline, players come off before substitute goes on. Ref or linesman oversees it?

You see how long it takes a soccer player to walk off when he wants to waste time? Then treble that as a player at the far corner of a GAA pitch (a smart manager would tell the player coming off to head to the far corner before sub is signalled) would have nearly 3 times as far to go, at walking or limping pace this would take too much time

Gie them 20s to get off then yellow card them if they arent off in that time

Getting a yellow card as you are walking off the pitch isn't much punishment (unless it's a second yellow) in a sport where yellow cards don't accumulate

[Cavan19]

Forgive me if its already been discussed (I haven't read all of the thread), but is there any reason why the GAA can't do substitutions the way they do them in soccer?

At the halfway point on the sideline, players come off before substitute goes on. Ref or linesman oversees it?

You see how long it takes a soccer player to walk off when he wants to waste time? Then treble that as a player at the far corner of a GAA pitch (a smart manager would tell the player coming off to head to the far corner before sub is signalled) would have nearly 3 times as far to go, at walking or limping pace this would take too much time

Gie them 20s to get off then yellow card them if they arent off in that time

Getting a yellow card as you are walking off the pitch isn't much punishment (unless it's a second yellow) in a sport where yellow cards don't accumulate

Give them a black then that wouldn't be long speeding them up.

[tonto1888]

Forgive me if its already been discussed (I haven't read all of the thread), but is there any reason why the GAA can't do substitutions the way they do them in soccer?

At the halfway point on the sideline, players come off before substitute goes on. Ref or linesman oversees it?

You see how long it takes a soccer player to walk off when he wants to waste time? Then treble that as a player at the far corner of a GAA pitch (a smart manager would tell the player coming off to head to the far corner before sub is signalled) would have nearly 3 times as far to go, at walking or limping pace this would take too much time

Gie them 20s to get off then yellow card them if they arent off in that time

Getting a yellow card as you are walking off the pitch isn't much punishment (unless it's a second yellow) in a sport where yellow cards don't accumulate

Fair enough. A black, as has been suggested

[Rossfan]

If you black the man going off, does the substitution get cancelled?

[Milltown Row2]

If you black the man going off, does the substitution get cancelled?

Depends if he's on the pitch or not lol!! That's another can or worms

Make it simple, subs are being made, stop the watch, been doing it for years and will continue to do so, players enter the pitch, blow whistle and restart the watch.

[PMG1]

Forgive me if its already been discussed (I haven't read all of the thread), but is there any reason why the GAA can't do substitutions the way they do them in soccer?

At the halfway point on the sideline, players come off before substitute goes on. Ref or linesman oversees it?

You see how long it takes a soccer player to walk off when he wants to waste time? Then treble that as a player at the far corner of a GAA pitch (a smart manager would tell the player coming off to head to the far corner before sub is signalled) would have nearly 3 times as far to go, at walking or limping pace this would take too much time

Gie them 20s to get off then yellow card them if they arent off in that time

They are coming off anyway so unless they are already on a yellow card then they are not going to worry about getting one. It's not like soccer where yellow cards are totted up and you get suspended once you get a certain amount

[bennydorano]

Forgive me if its already been discussed (I haven't read all of the thread), but is there any reason why the GAA can't do substitutions the way they do them in soccer?

At the halfway point on the sideline, players come off before substitute goes on. Ref or linesman oversees it?

You see how long it takes a soccer player to walk off when he wants to waste time? Then treble that as a player at the far corner of a GAA pitch (a smart manager would tell the player coming off to head to the far corner before sub is signalled) would have nearly 3 times as far to go, at walking or limping pace this would take too much time

Gie them 20s to get off then yellow card them if they arent off in that time

They are coming off anyway so unless they are already on a yellow card then they are not going to worry about getting one. It's not like soccer where yellow cards are totted up and you get suspended once you get a certain amount

You'd imagine the introduction of something like this is an absolute certainty to eventually come out of this mess. I would also introduce no subs in injury time to cut out the knavery that KC were at too - not unique to them obviously.

[Armagh18]

Forgive me if its already been discussed (I haven't read all of the thread), but is there any reason why the GAA can't do substitutions the way they do them in soccer?

At the halfway point on the sideline, players come off before substitute goes on. Ref or linesman oversees it?

You see how long it takes a soccer player to walk off when he wants to waste time? Then treble that as a player at the far corner of a GAA pitch (a smart manager would tell the player coming off to head to the far corner before sub is signalled) would have nearly 3 times as far to go, at walking or limping pace this would take too much time

Gie them 20s to get off then yellow card them if they arent off in that time

They are coming off anyway so unless they are already on a yellow card then they are not going to worry about getting one. It's not like soccer where yellow cards are totted up and you get suspended once you get a certain amount

You'd imagine the introduction of something like this is an absolute certainty to eventually come out of this mess. I would also introduce no subs in injury time to cut out the knavery that KC were at too - not unique to them obviously.

I wouldnt do that tbh, just let the ref stop the watch while the sub is being made.

[Milltown Row2]

Subs and injury time is the only means a ref has to actually stop play, that's always been the case, I'd introduce time wasting by free takers or give them 15 20 seconds to line up a free. Keepers are the worst for it also looking for footballs while one is sitting in the net.

If deemed time wasting by the keeper a hop ball on the 14 would quicken up his kicks

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/02/02/gaa-director-general-says-association-was-right-not-to-intervene-in-club-final-disciplinary-process/

"GAA director general Tom Ryan said at the launch of his annual report in Croke Park that it was correct for the association to follow its procedures rather than make special provision for an All-Ireland final or issue statements about the controversy."

[marty34]

Subs and injury time is the only means a ref has to actually stop play, that's always been the case, I'd introduce time wasting by free takers or give them 15 20 seconds to line up a free. Keepers are the worst for it also looking for footballs while one is sitting in the net.

If deemed time wasting by the keeper a hop ball on the 14 would quicken up his kicks

Yeah, GAA has so much to learn from other sports but so backward at times as it's preceived the rule has come from soccer or rugby etc. Crazy.

I think they're introducing a shot clock, or trialing it in rugby for a conversion after a try. A great idea to cut down on how long it takes.

I mean in  the GAA, the ball is in play for about 30 mins during a game. Other 30 mins it's out of play. Really teams are playing for 30 mins.

Maybe each half should be 40 mins long nowadays.

[Armagh18]

Subs and injury time is the only means a ref has to actually stop play, that's always been the case, I'd introduce time wasting by free takers or give them 15 20 seconds to line up a free. Keepers are the worst for it also looking for footballs while one is sitting in the net.

If deemed time wasting by the keeper a hop ball on the 14 would quicken up his kicks

Yeah, GAA has so much to learn from other sports but so backward at times as it's preceived the rule has come from soccer or rugby etc. Crazy.

I think they're introducing a shot clock, or trialing it in rugby for a conversion after a try. A great idea to cut down on how long it takes.

I mean in  the GAA, the ball is in play for about 30 mins during a game. Other 30 mins it's out of play. Really teams are playing for 30 mins.

Maybe each half should be 40 mins long nowadays.

That would just put  more and more emphasis on the fitness side rather than the skill side. Ever look at a top intercounty players gps stats? Madness.  even the average club player is putting up big numbers these days

[Milltown Row2]

Subs and injury time is the only means a ref has to actually stop play, that's always been the case, I'd introduce time wasting by free takers or give them 15 20 seconds to line up a free. Keepers are the worst for it also looking for footballs while one is sitting in the net.

If deemed time wasting by the keeper a hop ball on the 14 would quicken up his kicks

Yeah, GAA has so much to learn from other sports but so backward at times as it's preceived the rule has come from soccer or rugby etc. Crazy.

I think they're introducing a shot clock, or trialing it in rugby for a conversion after a try. A great idea to cut down on how long it takes.

I mean in  the GAA, the ball is in play for about 30 mins during a game. Other 30 mins it's out of play. Really teams are playing for 30 mins.

Maybe each half should be 40 mins long nowadays.

We have introduced a shot clock anyways with the 'mark' 15 seconds and there isn't any issues

[Franko]

Forgive me if its already been discussed (I haven't read all of the thread), but is there any reason why the GAA can't do substitutions the way they do them in soccer?

At the halfway point on the sideline, players come off before substitute goes on. Ref or linesman oversees it?

You see how long it takes a soccer player to walk off when he wants to waste time? Then treble that as a player at the far corner of a GAA pitch (a smart manager would tell the player coming off to head to the far corner before sub is signalled) would have nearly 3 times as far to go, at walking or limping pace this would take too much time

Gie them 20s to get off then yellow card them if they arent off in that time

They are coming off anyway so unless they are already on a yellow card then they are not going to worry about getting one. It's not like soccer where yellow cards are totted up and you get suspended once you get a certain amount

You'd imagine the introduction of something like this is an absolute certainty to eventually come out of this mess. I would also introduce no subs in injury time to cut out the knavery that KC were at too - not unique to them obviously.

I'd throw this up for discussion too.

The ref can add on the time OK, but every bit as much as killing time, teams use the subs to kill momentum in the dying seconds/minutes.