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Paddy Power have the fixtures already listed for Saturday and Sunday which is different to what I expected.
Also thought Kerry-Tyrone would be 50:50 odds wise.

With Dublin v Mayo certain to be played Sunday due to Mayo being to only team that played yesterday, that means Kerry v Tyrone is certain to be on Saturday.
After that, hard to know, maybe Derry v Cork will then be put on Sunday to help with the traffic system for what will be close to a sellout.

Or sometimes they put Cork and Kerry on the same day.

Mc Carthy says there may be a draw for the semi-finals.

Bit mad that.

I don't see any scenario where there's not a draw.
E.g. 2 sets of repeat pairings
Kerry, Mayo, Armagh, Derry
Still need a draw to see if Kerry meet Armagh or Derry.

I wonder if there's an order for what they try to avoid:
E.g. Round 1 > Provincial Final > Earlier Provincial game.

Kerry guaranteed Ulster opposition and Cork and Mayo likely to face Ulster opposition.

No - it still depends on the order they come out tomorrow.  The 'can't play' clause is not a certainty. Otherwise the draw could go on for a long time!!!

Kerry have a 50% chance of playing Tyrone and 50% chance of playing Monaghan and 0% each of Cork and Mayo.
That seems like a certainty to face Ulster to me!

Cork and Mayo both have a 75% chance of playing either Derry or Armagh and a 25% chance of playing Dublin.

Sometimes thread titles aren't very accurate, but this one has hit the nail on the head!

Today completed the Connaught-home-team-loses triangle.
Mayo lost at home to Roscommon
Roscommon lost at home to Galway
Galway lost at home to Mayo

Sneaky Derry management, trying to sub the player that got red carded after he got red carded.
As if we needed another Dublin-Derry too many players on the pitch controversy.

So Tyrone have a 50% chance of drawing Kerry and 25% each of Derry and Dublin.
Armagh have a 25% chance of drawing Monaghan and 37.5% each of Cork and Mayo.
Rest can be easily derived from that.

Group 1 (Ky, Mo, Ck, Lh) ended up being the best group with 3 1/4 finalists and Group 2 (Du, Ro, Ke, So) the weakest with only 1 1/4 finalist.

Armagh the only provincial runner-up to make it through.

As I said Kerry are as apt to drop knees, nip ,etc and have always been for as long as I remember
Cathal o Rourke being taken out in 2000
Kennelly in the all Ireland final throw in against cork to name two that aren't even recent
Undoubtedly as cynical as anyone and  fair play they know how to
Win

You must think this Kerry team are very clean that you're going back 14 years and 23 years to a completely different generation of players for examples. Are you sure you're not missing some incident from the 1953 All-Ireland final as well?
Contrast that to Armagh where in the last 12 months alone, you've eye-gouging, dropping the knee on a head and hitting a player on the ground's head twice.
This current Armagh team are a filthy team commiting thugish acts, and no amount of whataboutery changes that fact.

Seems very unfair on Kerry minors to play the Monaghan minors as part of a double header with the Monaghan seniors.
Didn't Croke Park take the minor finals away from before the senior final to protect them from having to play in front of a large crowd that are there for the senior game?
That should apply for other minor games also.

Not entirely fair, but Kerry got the benefit of this over the years, while Monaghan probably never did (although other Ulster supporters probably cheered for them).

Not since minor was changed to 16 and 17 year olds

Cork v Roscommon is very hard to gauge.
2 Jekyll and Hyde (no pun intended) teams.
Which Cork team will show up - the Cork that lost to Clare and struggled v Louth or the one that beat Mayo and pushed Kerry all the way?
Similar with Roscommon, the team that beat Mayo and drew with Dublin or the team that got hammered by Galway and lost to Kildare?

Seems very unfair on Kerry minors to play the Monaghan minors as part of a double header with the Monaghan seniors.
Didn't Croke Park take the minor finals away from before the senior final to protect them from having to play in front of a large crowd that are there for the senior game?
That should apply for other minor games also.

Do Galway have anyone who would be considered a dirty player? They are developing a wee bit more cynicism but no one stands out.

There's no Galway or Kerry players who I would consider a dirty player.

You don't watch Kerry that much then
They are extremely cynical and have always been
But given they aren't northern it's not flagged up.

Cynical fouling to prevent a quick attack, yes, but by dirty I presume he means sly punches to the head, eye-gouging, dropping a knee onto someone  on the ground's head, ....

Great day of football - few thoughts:
We were not good and still arent firing on all cylilnders. We are wide open at the back and Westmeath were unfortunate not to take anything from the game
Canavan was excellent - if McCurry & him gel in a game we will outscore most teams
I am still uncertain about our management - we dont seem to be able to change anything during the game - if we win we win. If we are playing shit we will play shit until the end of the game
Armagh player punching a Kelly once he fell after the penalty incident has to be reviewed - if Cavan Joe had saw that he would have given a red
Armagh free was questionable at the end - no more than that as we have all seen them given
Galway free was a certainty after a brain fart by the Armagh defender but the whistle should have been blown before then

Last point - how did no one on the entire Mayo backroom team get a message to Aidan to kick the ball over the bar to guarantee second place? Do the players even know what the possible outcomes are? Madness and one which will probably put Mayo out of the race for Sam

I'm fairly certain O'Shea went for a point.

Yeah, two aspects tell me he was going for a point.
1. If they were needing a goal surely O'Shea would be in the square
2. Players and coaches surely know at this stage that kicks into the square from a free give you virtually no chance of a goal - you should play a quick pass and then fire it in (or have some other plan).

Can anyone from Mayo, particularly on the coaching staff say with a straight face that O'Shea is a good candidate to take a vital free from 35 yards out with time almost up?
I thought he was on free taking duties for the easy ones just to boost his confidence. There's about 10 players better at taking frees than Aidan O'Shea on that Mayo squad, no? He's scored 44 points in 14 years of playing with Mayo, he's clearly not a point scorer of note.

Jack O'Connor v Mickey Harte, Round 3.
1-1 so far.

if cork take a hammering from mayo and louth beat kerry say by 2 points would  kerry not get third on better point difference than cork.

If Kerry lose by 2 and Cork lose by 5 and Kerry outscore Cork by 4, (or outscore by 3 but outscore in no. of goals by 1) Kerry get 3rd.