The Future for Laois Football

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Junior Ex Laoistalk

Quote from: town1980 on August 12, 2021, 10:37:15 PM
Graigue v port predictions????

This thread is to discuss the future of Laois football, go here to discuss the 2020 county final please
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=29590.150
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hoynevalley

Need to get Mick Dempsey or Noel Roe involved in executive role. Go with Padraic Clancy or Joe Higgins as manager..I.heard Billy O'Loughlin and Peter O'Leary have put their names forward for senior job. I know OLoughlin involved with couple teams. Who has O'Leary managed? Quite the expert on GAA on The Twitter.

Keyser Söze

Noel Roe? That's a name out of the blue?
Has he been involved somewhere else?
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled.......

High Fielder

Quote from: hoynevalley on August 13, 2021, 11:12:42 PM
Need to get Mick Dempsey or Noel Roe involved in executive role. Go with Padraic Clancy or Joe Higgins as manager..I.heard Billy O'Loughlin and Peter O'Leary have put their names forward for senior job. I know OLoughlin involved with couple teams. Who has O'Leary managed? Quite the expert on GAA on The Twitter.

We're fucked

town1980

Im sure he meant pat roe and i agree he trained wexford and carlow qnd it would be great to see him involved ,,i totally belive a young manager is needed these lads being mentioned are actually not young lads anymore either a good figure head for our lads to follow,a good clear  out on all SNC and start afresh ,,plenty of good lads locally some here think you need loads of experience nope you need to be able to have brilliant people skills and a brain to read situations and garber the laois people and clubs together like JS did and micko did JS with good men with him

hoynevalley

Quote from: town1980 on August 15, 2021, 12:03:32 PM
Im sure he meant pat roe and i agree he trained wexford and carlow qnd it would be great to see him involved ,,i totally belive a young manager is needed these lads being mentioned are actually not young lads anymore either a good figure head for our lads to follow,a good clear  out on all SNC and start afresh ,,plenty of good lads locally some here think you need loads of experience nope you need to be able to have brilliant people skills and a brain to read situations and garber the laois people and clubs together like JS did and micko did JS with good men with him

Apologies Pat Roe

Pablo Escobar

I see Davy Burke has stepped down as Wicklow manager. Has a good CV.

portlaoisekid

Quote from: Pablo Escobar on August 19, 2021, 05:59:28 PM
I see Davy Burke has stepped down as Wicklow manager. Has a good CV.
yeah he seems like a good manager..Rumours say  county board are going with someone close to home ... Time will tell I suppose

Butch Cassidy

Who have you heard PortlaoiseKid?

I'd say the more important jobs will be the minor and u20. We need to stay competitive, bring through competitive teams with players full of pace and power. You look at Mayo and they aren't the best or most skillful players but are incredible athletes. They have a good pathway for underage teams that includes a senior development panel so ensures players get proper S&C

portlaoisekid

Quote from: Butch Cassidy on August 20, 2021, 11:36:42 AM
Who have you heard PortlaoiseKid?

I'd say the more important jobs will be the minor and u20. We need to stay competitive, bring through competitive teams with players full of pace and power. You look at Mayo and they aren't the best or most skillful players but are incredible athletes. They have a good pathway for underage teams that includes a senior development panel so ensures players get proper S&C
I certainly dont know  who is getting it but seems all the stories around point to a manager close to home...

portlaoisekid

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Quote from: Chrimtain on August 20, 2021, 01:28:55 PM
Quote from: portlaoisekid on August 20, 2021, 12:57:42 PM
Quote from: Butch Cassidy on August 20, 2021, 11:36:42 AM
Who have you heard PortlaoiseKid?

I'd say the more important jobs will be the minor and u20. We need to stay competitive, bring through competitive teams with players full of pace and power. You look at Mayo and they aren't the best or most skillful players but are incredible athletes. They have a good pathway for underage teams that includes a senior development panel so ensures players get proper S&C
I certainly dont know  who is getting it but seems all the stories around point to a manager close to home...

On a different topic PK, do you think that the town of Portlaoise needs a second club or do you think Portlaoise GFC are taking full advantage of the big population in the town?
It all depends what a second club in town means. I believe there is no appetite in town for a second club if that means splitting our club in two,the notion of splitting our club is horrific to me as a Portlaoise club man.If a second club wants to form (just like Kilminchy a few years back ) then absolutely work away IMO, but to split our club  would be wrong and would solve nothing from a Laois point of view. Portlaoise do quite well with players and if a player is good enough and wants to put in the effort they will 100% get their chance to play senior. I cant name one player who didn't get their chance to prove themselves at senior if they were good enough and willing to put the effort in to be a senior player.

To answer your second question we are doing the best we can and that literally is all we can do ATM with the resources at hand.It is a battle though to get kids to play but we do fairly well in that regard.



portlaoisekid

Quote from: Chrimtain on August 20, 2021, 09:12:24 PM
When I think of a second club in the town of Portlaoise, I certainly do not think of splitting the current club. That, in my opinion would be counter productive both to the club and to tje GAA in Laois. No, what I mean is support being given to the birth of an entirely new club that might grow in a newish part of the town e.g. Kilminchy. Perhaps this club might start as a juvenile club initially and, eventually, become a club that supports juveniles and adult teams.
well IMO that's up to the area , and more power to them if they can set up a club and get it going , as we speak
we already see club's on the outskirts of town trying to get kids from the periphery of town to play for them,  be interesting to see how that goes as a test case for the next couple of years .

High Fielder

No reason why we can't get the problem fixed within Portlaoise GAA. It just needs a lot of financing, good planning and hard work. We have none of that right now, and we get a very poor return from Portlaoise. They get a poor return from themselves too. The facilities and structures should be in place (in a town of that size) to accommodate whoever wants a jersey, and if that means B and C teams, then fine.

Truth is we're afraid of making Portlaoise a monster, so we ignore the issue and go year to year wondering what might be. Unfortunately, for every year that passes, both Portlaoise and Laois are declining. Numbers alone will mean Portlaoise will have plenty of good days, but nowhere near as many as they should. The facilities are poor for obvious reasons, and you really would want to go there as a kid, rather than allow yourself to be encouraged. If there is a failure in some parts to want to represent what is essentially a wonderful and proud club, then what the hell chance is there of a second club being formed? What would be the motivation?

This is a CB issue. If they want what's best for Laois, they need to make Portlaoise a priority. They need to park their own blub bias and actively collaborate with Portlaoise to improve matters. Portlaoise don't have the financial resources or manpower to fix this, but they have what Laois wants and that's numbers. A Portlaoise GAA regeneration would be very helpful to the Laois cause, and if that forces amalgamations elsewhere, then that's what we must do. There are far too many clubs anyway, some of which are wasting their time as stand alone entities. Another problem for another day.....

High Fielder

A more immediate alternative might be to allow and encourage schools based in Portlaoise to compete in our underage championships at appropriate levels. Without knowing for sure, I can only imagine that some schools have more numbers at their disposal than most clubs. These are just some ideas. Hopefully there are many more. The net point is this. We can't afford to ignore what's not happening now in Portlaoise

portlaoisekid

Quote from: High Fielder on August 22, 2021, 08:59:45 AM
No reason why we can't get the problem fixed within Portlaoise GAA. It just needs a lot of financing, good planning and hard work. We have none of that right now, and we get a very poor return from Portlaoise. They get a poor return from themselves too. The facilities and structures should be in place (in a town of that size) to accommodate whoever wants a jersey, and if that means B and C teams, then fine.

Truth is we're afraid of making Portlaoise a monster, so we ignore the issue and go year to year wondering what might be. Unfortunately, for every year that passes, both Portlaoise and Laois are declining. Numbers alone will mean Portlaoise will have plenty of good days, but nowhere near as many as they should. The facilities are poor for obvious reasons, and you really would want to go there as a kid, rather than allow yourself to be encouraged. If there is a failure in some parts to want to represent what is essentially a wonderful and proud club, then what the hell chance is there of a second club being formed? What would be the motivation?

This is a CB issue. If they want what's best for Laois, they need to make Portlaoise a priority. They need to park their own blub bias and actively collaborate with Portlaoise to improve matters. Portlaoise don't have the financial resources or manpower to fix this, but they have what Laois wants and that's numbers. A Portlaoise GAA regeneration would be very helpful to the Laois cause, and if that forces amalgamations elsewhere, then that's what we must do. There are far too many clubs anyway, some of which are wasting their time as stand alone entities. Another problem for another day.....
good post but remember one thing , the CB use Portlaoise as an excuse for failure and always have , it's their get out excuse. . E.g. The CB are losing their sh1ite over Port being this example of progress of Laois football , when in reality it's nothing to do with Laois GAA but moreso how good Port are and their hard work ... Any improvement in Laois football is definitely In spite of Laois county board efforts and that's their preferred game of football , just imagine for a second what our hurlers have to go through ...