Laois team v Offaly:
1 O Bennett. Camross
2 B Quinlan Borris Kilcotton
3 E Killeen. Rathdowney Errill
4 J Geaney. Portlaoise
5 D Connolly. Ballyfin
6 J Cranny. Abbeyleix
7 L Cleere. Clough Ballwcolla
8 L McDonald. Slieve Margy
9 L Delaney. Abbeyleix
10 S Dunphy. Borris Kilcotton
11 A Dunphy. Borris Kilcotton
12 C Comerford The Harps
13 A Bergin. Portlaoise
14 J Walshe. Clough Ballacolla
15 M Dowling. Camross
Must be the first time there's someone from the 'other side' of the county on a Laoise team.
Or, at least, the first time in quite a while...
Quote from: burdizzo on April 08, 2016, 07:57:43 AM
Must be the first time there's someone from the 'other side' of the county on a Laoise team.
Or, at least, the first time in quite a while...
Ciaran Comerford plays football for Ballylinan so you could make that two from that side. The footballers have Robert Tyrell from Camross playing midfield too.
Times are changing?
Didn't Robert Jones from Kilcotton play for the minor footballers one year they won the all-Ireland? 2003, was it?
Being a bit too kind to Robert there. He was on the minor team in 1998 when they were beaten by Tyrone. Lads from hurling areas playing on minor football teams is a bit more common
than the other was around. Ger Reddin and Matthew Whelan would have played minor football in the 00's.
Hasn't been many hurlers coming from football clubs though. Good to see it.
Just looking at the team that played Kilkenny in last years championship. Six starters from that team,the 2 Dunphys,Lee Cleere, Joe Geany,David Connolly and Aaron Bergin. Liam Delaney and Eric Killeen came on as subs. Interesting to see that Robbie Phelan and Stephen Phelan both started as well but are not part of the Minor panel this year.
Quote from: grover on April 08, 2016, 11:24:49 AM
Just looking at the team that played Kilkenny in last years championship. Six starters from that team,the 2 Dunphys,Lee Cleere, Joe Geany,David Connolly and Aaron Bergin. Liam Delaney and Eric Killeen came on as subs. Interesting to see that Robbie Phelan and Stephen Phelan both started as well but are not part of the Minor panel this year.
Are they still under age?
A strong enough team on paper. Aaron Dunphy and Aaron Bergin are probably the two main scoring threats. Was very impressed with Lee Cleere last year with Clough-Ballacolla, handled himself very well at senior level considering how young he was. Few good prospects on that team, hopefully they keep up our good recent record against Offaly.
Very good team out there today.
Disappointing to see Stephen and Robbie Phelan opting out this year.
Robbie had been on the team for the last two years and would have impressed most observers with the C/Bcolla seniors last year. Himself and Aaron Dunphy would be a serious double-act at this level.
I'm a huge fan of Stephen Phelan too; I only realised recently that he wasn't involved. We'll miss his physicality and athleticism; a very talented player who is very awkward to mark.
Killeen and Cranny will be severely tested today. Killeen is a lovely hurler but I would never have seen him as a full back personally; hope he goes well. Cranny is a good defender and strong in the air. He has two good hurlers either side of him and he should have the physical presence to anchor that defence nicely.
Midfield looks very capable. Two confident young men; both bring good athleticism and energy.
Forwards look to have a nice blend. The Dunphys are great prospects and Aaron, in particular, will take a lot of minding. I'd expect Offaly to play a sweeper and double up on him. Quick ball into the likes of Bergin should be the order of the day.
Best of luck to all involved.
Blew it. We were WAY better but played with a complacency that allowed Offaly back in. Their heads did not look right at all.
wouldn't go as far as laois blew it, yes at halftime it looked good but it took offaly a while to get going and when they got their match ups right they were on top, theres nothing between the teams, but alot of hard work for this offaly team to do yet.
laois hurl well in the senior game at least we will have the old derby again next year in portlaoise ;)
Could have went either way. Laois had a goal disallowed when 5/6 up at start of 2nd half and dominating. If it had been allowed I couldn't have imagined an Offaly revival. Like previous poster said, Offaly got to grips with game from 45 mins onwards and began to play with a bit of fire. Laois found it hard to respond. A skillful Laois team but they should have put Offaly to the sword when they had the chance. Hopefully a lesson learned.
Very disappointing result from what seemed like a good team on paper.
I think that some of them suffered from lack of match practice / training due to injury
They didnt seem to gel as a team and felf that there was too much going for glory. Yes if we had to get the goal in the first 5 mins it was a great start but 2 points were thrown away which would have settled them a bit.
They are a good team and hopefully all this will get sorted and they will settle down but a lot of work to be done
Playing Carlow, who defeated Kildare, in two weeks time.
Offaly have a game against Killkenny the same day.
Quote from: merman on April 09, 2016, 09:08:04 AM
Disappointing to see Stephen and Robbie Phelan opting out this year.
Robbie had been on the team for the last two years and would have impressed most observers with the C/Bcolla seniors last year. Himself and Aaron Dunphy would be a serious double-act at this level.
I'm a huge fan of Stephen Phelan too; I only realised recently that he wasn't involved. We'll miss his physicality and athleticism; a very talented player who is very awkward to mark.
Out of interest, we're these lads missing because of the new rule forbids county minors to play senior club until minor IC is finished for the year?
They're two very good lads so interesting to hear why they are not involved. Is it to do with exams or another reason as suggested by the skull?
Good question that...
I'm not sure but it wouldn't surprise me if it was a factor...
From what Ive heard Robbie Phelan has exams so wouldnt commit and Stephen is doing apprenticeship in Cork and had to drop off earlier in year
castletown won the county minor championship last year and not one on the starting 15, at least 5 or 6 of the mountrath community school team that got to the leinster a semi final were from castletown, surely one or two of them( young peters full back!) were better than what played on Saturday.
if we don't put out the best 15 minors in the county, then the end game is a guaranteed poor campaign. who is at fault?
Quote from: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on April 11, 2016, 03:02:29 PM
castletown won the county minor championship last year and not one on the starting 15, at least 5 or 6 of the mountrath community school team that got to the leinster a semi final were from castletown, surely one or two of them( young peters full back!) were better than what played on Saturday.
if we don't put out the best 15 minors in the county, then the end game is a guaranteed poor campaign. who is at fault?
I suppose its hard for everyone to agree on who is the strongest 15 but in fairness changes were called for long before they happened
From what I can see (and has been the case for a long time) favouritism is still in play in Laois no matter how much this is denied and not just at minor level
In kilkenny you have to fight for your place but in Laois in some cases your place is a given.
To be fair, some of Castletown's (just as an example) best prospects are still U16 and ineligible for county minor.
That said, the inaction on the line was quite worrying on Saturday...
Quote from: merman on April 11, 2016, 06:39:01 PM
To be fair, some of Castletown's (just as an example) best prospects are still U16 and ineligible for county minor.
That said, the inaction on the line was quite worrying on Saturday...
Agreed on both counts. Also many of the big guns from last years minor winning team are overage, including some of those on the Mountrath School team. Regarding Peters, to be fair to those who hurled in the full back line, they didn't do a whole lot wrong.
Thought the line were shocking bad. Not just in terms of substitutions, but with regard to what was happening on the field.
The positioning of our half back line and midfield for our own puckouts in the second half was incredible (in a bad way). Either it was what they were told to do or it should have been corrected.
Game should have been won.
Who is on the management team with the minors?
There seemed to be a fear of taking off some of the "big"names on the day.
If someone is not performing take them off..simple really.
players have off days so no favours being done leaving them on
I do wonder if the line have a different view to spectators or are unwilling to change until too late.
That was a game that coukd and should have been won
Game was lost on the line from what I could see....Harsh to say it but I think it has to be said
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on April 10, 2016, 11:43:39 AM
Could have went either way. Laois had a goal disallowed when 5/6 up at start of 2nd half and dominating. If it had been allowed I couldn't have imagined an Offaly revival. Like previous poster said, Offaly got to grips with game from 45 mins onwards and began to play with a bit of fire. Laois found it hard to respond. A skillful Laois team but they should have put Offaly to the sword when they had the chance. Hopefully a lesson learned.
agree with this, i seen the highlights on TG4 the other night and looking back at the goal that was disallowed, it was the wrong call IMO. and that would have put us up by 8 or 9 points, instead Offaly went and got the next 3 scores. Dowling ran in and very sweetly flicked the ball into the net, he was about 2 feet into the square when he made contact with the ball. according to the 'new' rules that goal should have stood.
"Under the old rule, a player could not enter the small square before the ball had done so but the difficulty in policing the rule prompted the call for change at the 2012 Congress.
Under the new rule, a player may enter the square before the ball in open play. The old rule will still apply for set play"ifs and buts and all that but it was technically a 6 point swing! might be a kick in the hole they needed?
Anyone hear the team for Saturday.
Heard there were 2 changes. Peters and Corby starting instead of Connolly and Bergin.
Not sure if this is right.
Rule didn't change for da hurlin'.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2012/0415/317130-square-ball-rule-amended-at-congress/
Quote from: finbar o tool on April 14, 2016, 09:45:47 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on April 10, 2016, 11:43:39 AM
Could have went either way. Laois had a goal disallowed when 5/6 up at start of 2nd half and dominating. If it had been allowed I couldn't have imagined an Offaly revival. Like previous poster said, Offaly got to grips with game from 45 mins onwards and began to play with a bit of fire. Laois found it hard to respond. A skillful Laois team but they should have put Offaly to the sword when they had the chance. Hopefully a lesson learned.
agree with this, i seen the highlights on TG4 the other night and looking back at the goal that was disallowed, it was the wrong call IMO. and that would have put us up by 8 or 9 points, instead Offaly went and got the next 3 scores. Dowling ran in and very sweetly flicked the ball into the net, he was about 2 feet into the square when he made contact with the ball. according to the 'new' rules that goal should have stood.
"Under the old rule, a player could not enter the small square before the ball had done so but the difficulty in policing the rule prompted the call for change at the 2012 Congress.
Under the new rule, a player may enter the square before the ball in open play. The old rule will still apply for set play"
ifs and buts and all that but it was technically a 6 point swing! might be a kick in the hole they needed?
Heard this too, glad to see Peters in, a big, solid, hardy man. Corby has the potential too, could be trouble for the Carlow defence.
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I only hope they're not as complacent as they were against Offaly. Team and line
oneflewoverthecuckoonest will be a bit happier.
Good win, but a very tough quarter-final w/ Dublin in Parnell Park. Looking at the whacking Offaly got, too...
Tbh I think it said more about how bad carlow were than how good laois were.
If we stay playing like that no team will fear us.
Midfield and half forward line need to step up a bit
Strange that it took so long to give subs a run considering the winning margin
Dublin game 3pm next Saturday in Portlaoise.
Do or die.
There was bound to have been a few nerves before the game Saturday having been beaten the last day however they put up a good score in the end. At this age group they have to be mixing it with Dublin, Wexford or Killkenny to improve and they have earned the right to be there.
Beat Dublin on Saturday and they are in a semi final. They've had 2 games to get themselves prepared for that and the bonus is having it at home.
For those who have been at both games how has the management performed on the line?
Also, young Peters, how did he get on?
Hard to know where this team are at. Seemed to have the heads wrong against Offaly and no changes were made when things went wrong. Against Carlow the bench subbed in young Keyes early who was on fire and made a fierce difference but then didn't make any more changes until very deep into the second half despite some poor performances and the need to give some more experience to other players. Also, Lee Cleere was carrying an injury in the second half when the game was in the bag and should have been given a break given his importance to the team.
In general, the team will need to display a much higher level of accuracy and will need to be less sloppy. They seem to drop a little too much ball or take too many goes to get the ball into the hand which will cause problems against Dublin. However, if the first touch is right they have a good chance.
Dublin had a nightmare against Wexford at the weekend. For a team that won the Arrabawn it was a disastrous result.
It's probably the best Dublin minor hurling team I've ever seen on paper . But it's in danger of becoming consigned to the rubbish bin as a foot-note.
A huge game for them on Saturday. Serious questions to be asked of the management if they don't win on Saturday because they'll have pissed away the best team we've had for years at this level
Quote from: INDIANA on April 26, 2016, 10:17:42 PM
Dublin had a nightmare against Wexford at the weekend. For a team that won the Arrabawn it was a disastrous result.
It's probably the best Dublin minor hurling team I've ever seen on paper . But it's in danger of becoming consigned to the rubbish bin as a foot-note.
A huge game for them on Saturday. Serious questions to be asked of the management if they don't win on Saturday because they'll have pissed away the best team we've had for years at this level
Sounds ominous for our lads. A lot happens between 14 and 18 though. The Forrestal and Arrabawn are no great yardstick for minor.
Quote from: INDIANA on April 26, 2016, 10:17:42 PM
A huge game for them on Saturday. Serious questions to be asked of the management if they don't win on Saturday because they'll have pissed away the best team we've had for years at this level
Have to agree with this. A good team coming up along but in danger of being messed up.
some of the management decisions are puzzling. Why Cleere and Geaney not brought off earlier when they were carrying injuries was just crazy.
Rumour has it some of the lads were out the night before so if this is true it doesnt bode well for the commitment of the team
Nothing wrong with firing up unsubstantiated rumours about lads under the age of 18 eh. Good man.
Quote from: Don Draper on April 27, 2016, 10:11:09 AM
Nothing wrong with firing up unsubstantiated rumours about lads under the age of 18 eh. Good man.
Actually heard it from one of the panel so maybe no so "unsubstantiated"
U18 or not if lads are lining out for their county you would expect some sort of commitment and if there is a rule in place its for all of the panel.
Quote from: LOVEGAA on April 27, 2016, 10:19:21 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on April 27, 2016, 10:11:09 AM
Nothing wrong with firing up unsubstantiated rumours about lads under the age of 18 eh. Good man.
Actually heard it from one of the panel so maybe no so "unsubstantiated"
U18 or not if lads are lining out for their county you would expect some sort of commitment and if there is a rule in place its for all of the panel.
You "heard it from a panel member, ah well, thats as good as fact so. Are you for real?
You heard they were "out". The horrible little hoores, they'd have been better off locked up in their room by their mammys drinking hot cocoa by 8PM.
Stop spreading rumours about children, its not big and its not smart.
I'll leave it at that, best of luck to the lads this weekend, nothing to fear about Dublin, Arrabawn means f**k all at this stage, unless your lactose intolerant.
Yeah leave it at that...
They are not U10's they are on the county Minor panel.
Cant play/train with their clubs but ok to be out night before a championship match ???
Quote from: LOVEGAA on April 27, 2016, 09:16:26 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 26, 2016, 10:17:42 PM
A huge game for them on Saturday. Serious questions to be asked of the management if they don't win on Saturday because they'll have pissed away the best team we've had for years at this level
Have to agree with this. A good team coming up along but in danger of being messed up.
some of the management decisions are puzzling. Why Cleere and Geaney not brought off earlier when they were carrying injuries was just crazy.
Rumour has it some of the lads were out the night before so if this is true it doesnt bode well for the commitment of the team
I think Indiana was referring to the Dublin minors in his post!
Sorry!
think our minors are a very good team on paper too but best needs to be got out of them
Any news for todays game?
One change. Dowling out,injured. James Keyes in.. Hear Aaron Bergin and Cilian McEvoy could be on bench.
Saw the end of this.
Just sort of died off. Didn't appear to be much fight in them.
Very disappointing performance. Apart from Joe Geany, nobody else was up to scratch. Our first touch and striking was very poor. One thing that stood out was the size and strength of the Dublin team.
really poor performance, one of the poorest in the last few years. dublin far stronger physically and far slicker in their hurling even though they are no world beaters. even allowing for this the general poor execution of the basic skills was a surprise, first touch throughout the field was awful . i generally thought we had a chance considering it was our third game and dublin are not playing their dual players, but it was awful stuff. tactics such as leaving our centre back marking space didn't help either.
From early on it was obvious we were not going to win, first touch was non existant allowing numerous rucks where the bigger dubs horsed us off the ball and we seemed to have no one bar comerford who could actually field a ball above their heads. ill discipline and a very fussy referee allowed dublin a lot of frees to settle them down and we really never troubled them. no one bar geaney and the keeper who couldn't be faulted were up to the task. the two injured guys and the missing phelans were a big loss but it still would be a big ask. a lot of our trumpeted players were found out.
i hope the u-21's are better prepared.
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Quote from: grover on November 06, 2015, 05:51:23 PM
Have heard Mark Rooney Clonaslee new Minor Football Manager and Paul OShea Abbeyleix new Minor Hurling Manager.Any thought's ? Don't know anything about either of them!
Unusual appointments. First one I'd be happy enough with.
Not sure what achievements to date make the latter an appropriate appointment to this level? Nothing personal.
Should never have been given the job!
A very badly managed team imo.
Mid field a serious problem in 3 games and nothing done about it.
our 1st touch was terrible and we lacked any sort of intensity