European Super League

Started by seafoid, April 18, 2021, 08:03:00 PM

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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: David McKeown on April 21, 2021, 09:35:44 AM
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Looks like for now the proposed European Super League is very unlikely going to come to fruition dead in the water, but unless there is some serious structural change in how top level soccer in Europe is run and owned by various interests, then it's simply delaying another similarly planned competition/breakaway by the end of this decade.

I'm not sure. I was convinced this one would happen. But as this conglomerate of billionaires and big brands were put firmly in their place by public opinion (not FIFA) now, I'm not really sure what it is they can do to change or soften that feeling, even decades from now.

They may try to increase their numbers and devise a multi-tier European league - with some framework for other European clubs to replace struggling members. But it's maybe hard to believe that such and arrangement would be any more lucrative for the "big 12" than being top dogs in their national leagues.  And it's harder to believe again that national FAs would sanction a promotion/relegation system to the "super league".
Where they though? Or was it the threatened crackdown by the government that really spooked them? The premier League is a massive export for the UK and it looked like the Tories weren't going to sit back and let it happen. I'm just sceptical of the clubs saying they listened to back lash of the fans. They would have surely known that. Fans in the stadium only accounted for something like 4% of profit for these big clubs.

Government intervention would have put FIFA in awkward position given their clear stance on governments not being entitled to meddle in football associations and/or competitions.  Mind you FIFA do things as they suit.  I see David Martin was appointed FIFA vice president yesterday.  Hes from Dromore, was removed from the IFA board in 2010 by Nelson McCausland on the basis of his and others handling of the dismissal/resignation of the chief executive.  Martin then failed the competency tests that were enacted after a report into that situation when he tried to get back on to the board and failed them twice more only getting back on to the board once they were removed.  When asked about the Super League he apparently refused to condemn it and simply deflected questions saying they were for another day

Its government intervention on FIFA's behalf. They don't mind that.

seafoid

Stephen Bush, in the New Statesman, described the ESL as follows : "11 of Europe's biggest football clubs and Tottenham Hotspur have announced their intention to establish a new midweek tournament in which the 12 clubs play each other, as a replacement for the Champions League"
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

J70

Quote from: seafoid on April 21, 2021, 01:28:23 PM
Stephen Bush, in the New Statesman, described the ESL as follows : "11 of Europe's biggest football clubs and Tottenham Hotspur have announced their intention to establish a new midweek tournament in which the 12 clubs play each other, as a replacement for the Champions League"

;D

trailer

Quote from: J70 on April 21, 2021, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 21, 2021, 01:28:23 PM
Stephen Bush, in the New Statesman, described the ESL as follows : "11 of Europe's biggest football clubs and Tottenham Hotspur have announced their intention to establish a new midweek tournament in which the 12 clubs play each other, as a replacement for the Champions League"

;D

Spurs are more entitled to be in any ESL conversation than Arsenal.

Armagh18

Quote from: trailer on April 21, 2021, 03:51:32 PM
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Stephen Bush, in the New Statesman, described the ESL as follows : "11 of Europe's biggest football clubs and Tottenham Hotspur have announced their intention to establish a new midweek tournament in which the 12 clubs play each other, as a replacement for the Champions League"

;D

Spurs are more entitled to be in any ESL conversation than Arsenal.
Bald men fighting over a comb.

J70

Quote from: trailer on April 21, 2021, 03:51:32 PM
Quote from: J70 on April 21, 2021, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 21, 2021, 01:28:23 PM
Stephen Bush, in the New Statesman, described the ESL as follows : "11 of Europe's biggest football clubs and Tottenham Hotspur have announced their intention to establish a new midweek tournament in which the 12 clubs play each other, as a replacement for the Champions League"

;D

Spurs are more entitled to be in any ESL conversation than Arsenal.

That may well be the case.

It's still a funny statement.

Cunny Funt

Quote from: trailer on April 21, 2021, 03:51:32 PM
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Quote from: seafoid on April 21, 2021, 01:28:23 PM
Stephen Bush, in the New Statesman, described the ESL as follows : "11 of Europe's biggest football clubs and Tottenham Hotspur have announced their intention to establish a new midweek tournament in which the 12 clubs play each other, as a replacement for the Champions League"

;D

Spurs are more entitled to be in any ESL conversation than Arsenal.

Neither should be involved, Why do you think they are more entitled?

As for owners saying sorry.

https://youtu.be/kV9nHcttVnU

dec

For the ESL, a business's position in the Deloitte Football Money League is more important than a team's sporting merit.


imtommygunn

You would think spurs would spend some money.

seafoid

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 21, 2021, 09:33:59 AM
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There is certainly no premier league club who'd have turned down the opportunity to join a super league especially Leeds United so their antics last night were comical.

As for PSG the super league doesn't need them but PSG definitely needs the super league. Once the world cup is out of the way they'd be all over it. Bayern are the one super power who don't need it, biggest club in their league by a mile.
Everton wouldn't have, no way.

They actually generally have a bit of class and know their history and roots

Everton are owned by a billionaire from overseas, he's not an Everton fan. He's bought the club to make money, there is no logical reason why he or any other premier league would have turned it down. The only clubs who'd say no are fan owned clubs.
I don't think he bought Everton to make money.

united have lost their soul as a club. Everton are still in the main a club supported by local people

and I think you underestimate a lot of other clubs just because your own is interested in nothing but the pursuit of more money

shark

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 21, 2021, 09:09:22 PM
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Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 20, 2021, 05:09:08 PM
There is certainly no premier league club who'd have turned down the opportunity to join a super league especially Leeds United so their antics last night were comical.

As for PSG the super league doesn't need them but PSG definitely needs the super league. Once the world cup is out of the way they'd be all over it. Bayern are the one super power who don't need it, biggest club in their league by a mile.
Everton wouldn't have, no way.

They actually generally have a bit of class and know their history and roots

Everton are owned by a billionaire from overseas, he's not an Everton fan. He's bought the club to make money, there is no logical reason why he or any other premier league would have turned it down. The only clubs who'd say no are fan owned clubs.
I don't think he bought Everton to make money.

united have lost their soul as a club. Everton are still in the main a club supported by local people

and I think you underestimate a lot of other clubs just because your own is interested in nothing but the pursuit of more money

Of course he didn't buy Everton to make money. There is zero chance he could achieve that. Most football clubs don't make any profit.  It's a hobby for a person who doesn't need all the money he has.

BennyCake

These 'apologies' from club owners to fans are laughable.

seafoid

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/04/21/european-super-league-news-teams-clubs-withdraw-collapse-live/

As the blame game began over the botched breakaway, it emerged that:

Heavy fines fines or worse could be imposed on those involved for bringing themselves and the Premier League into disrepute.Ed Woodward, Tom Werner, Bruce Buck, Ferran Soriano and Vinai Venkatesham were asked to quit their roles on the league's working groups or face being forcibly removed.The plotters were in danger of being stripped of their right to enter the revamped Champions League through the back door.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU