Fermanagh Football & Hurling

[ExiledGael]

Should have been out before now.
From Impartial Website

Fermanagh Liaison Officer Ger Treacy has confirmed that Seamus Quigley has left the panel ahead of the All Ireland Qualifiers Round One on June 30.
Quigley was Fermanagh's chief source of scores during the McKenna Cup and National League but rumours abounded in the run in to the Ulster Championship clash with Down that the player had missed training sessions as well as a challenge match.
The Roslea man did feature against the Mournemen as a second half substitute with Fermanagh manager Peter Canavan stating that the player had sustained a hamstring injury a week prior to the game which had ruled him out of starting the contest.
The player did not attend training on Tuesday night when the squad met up for the first time since the Down defeat, and Treacy has explained the Quigley has withdrawn from the squad although the door has been left open for the talismanic forward to return in the future.
"I can confirm that Seamus Quigley has left the 2012 Senior Championship panel," said Treacy. "Seamus is no longer in a position to commit to the panel and has therefore withdrawn from the squad. The Management Team would like to thank Seamus for his contribution this year and hope that he will be available to the panel some time in the future."

[FermPundit]

Disappointing but not surprising. Hopefully the squad can focus now and ready for the qualifiers

[FermPundit]

Senior Football League 1
Round 8   Ederney
3:30 PM   Ederney St Joseph's   1-12    v   Erne Gaels Belleek   0-6
Senior Football League 1
Round 8   Newtownbutler GAA
3:30 PM   Newtownbutler First Fermanaghs   1-10    v   Derrygonnelly Harps   1-6
Senior Football League 1
Round 8   St Marys Park
3:30 PM   Teemore Shamrocks   0-11    v   Belcoo O`Rahilly's   2-6
Senior Football League 1
Round 8   Lisnaskea
3:30 PM   Lisnaskea Emmetts   2-11    v   Devenish St Mary's   1-5
Senior Football League 1
Round 8   St Marys Park
3:30 PM   Tempo Maguires   0-9    v   Roslea Shamrocks GFC   0-6

[FermPundit]

Date: Sunday 17th Jun 2012
Senior Football League 2
Round 8   Derrylin
3:30 PM   Derrylin O Connells   2-10    v   Belnaleck Art McMurroughs   1-8
Senior Football League 2
Round 8   St. Mary's GFC
3:30 PM   Maguiresbridge St Mary's   0-4    v   Kinawley Brian Borus   4-9
Senior Football League 2
Round 8   Brewster Park
3:30 PM   Enniskillen Gaels   0-11    v   St Patrick's Donagh   0-9
Senior Football League 2
Round 8   Coa
12:30 PM   Coa O`Dwyer's   2-10    v   Aghadrumsee St McCartans   0-6

[FermGael]

So Quigley has withdrawn from the panel and the door is still open if he fancies it.
That in itself sums the whole mess up.
Alot of people left with egg on their faces. 

Need a good draw tomorrow morning and important to get it at home.
Maybe we can now concentrate on playing football.

[Lucifer]

So Quigley has withdrawn from the panel and the door is still open if he fancies it.
That in itself sums the whole mess up.
Alot of people left with egg on their faces. 

Need a good draw tomorrow morning and important to get it at home.
Maybe we can now concentrate on playing football.

Thomas Kane reckons he is the #gaasbalotelli. Not a bad comparison.  Will his behaviour, and the subsequent weak management, affect morale in the camp? A favourable home draw would hopefully get us back on the road, but I can't see us getting far.

[FermGael]

Would have preferred a non ulster team to be honest.
Cavan are a young, hungry team who would have good memories of playing in Brewster Park(  the last 2 Ulster U-21 titles ).
Throw in the local derby aspect and then this could go either way.
I would say that Cavan will not exactly be worried about drawing us.
Will be interesting to see what sort of team Canavan sends out, now that Quigley has quit.
Not sure what options he has for full forward.  Needs to play somebody in there with a physical presence.
McCabe will be a help in the forward's.  He will probably replace Daryl Keenan.
Would also like to see John Woods brought into the corner back slot.  Deserves a chance.
Does anybody know if James Sherry has been playing for Roslea??

Not sure what other options we have.

[everymanaman]

After the sweetener he got to stay at home, will he be returning it or exchanging it for dollars?

[sammymaguire]

The Trigley has dissolved now, is it right Conor and Sean now followed Seamie out the door?

[everymanaman]

The Trigley has dissolved now, is it right Conor and Sean now followed Seamie out the door?

I heard that they followed each other into a local watering hole on their visit there for a recent league game. Needless to say they didn't make their way to the match. Wile craic those boys.

[FermGael]

Hope that this is not true. 

Sean has been injured this year but if fit is one of the best forwards within the county.
Conor Quigley has been Fermanagh's best player over the last 2 years.  He would be a huge loss to our half back line especially considering that McCluskey is still injured and Tommy McElroy is not fully fit.

If this is true, there will be an article in the Irish News from Ger Tracey explaining how this was all part of the plan anyhow. 

[Lucifer]

This is not true, I have that pretty reliably.

Sean got lots of chances early in the year and simply didn't look good enough IMO.  Well down the pecking order.

Cavan at home is a good draw for us, but Cavan will be relatively pleased also. I would like to think we will be a bit more adventurous in how we set up.

[FermGael]

Where do you start after that.

For 45 minutes we were in complete control.
Playing the best football we have played this year to date and dominating in nearly all sectors.
The benefits of having a team  knowing what they were doing and the lack of the 'Seamie circus' was clear to see.

Then we conceded 2 goals in about 2 minutes and the game flipped on its head.  We could not win a ball around the middle and Cavan just powered on.
Very disappointing and we had nobody who tried to wrestle the game back from Cavan.  The heads just dropped.

Overall a disappointing end to a year that had promised so much.
We are out of division 4 which is good and its too early to judge Canavan.
He was brought in at a very late stage and he has to be given another year and more importantly a proper preseason with the team.  The changes that Canavan made to the starting team today were good but when you look at the sub bench, we did not have any real game changers.
They are players within the county that also have to be brought on board as well.  Ryan Carson, Chris O'Brien, Marty O'Brien, Enda Ferris, Terry O'Flanaghan to name but a few.
Forget about Seamie Quigley, he is not worth it.

We also have to look at our Underage set up.  Dom/McGinnity has been producing competitive MacRory team for the last 20 years that have beaten the best in Ulster.  That has not been transferred to the county underage set up.  I think we have won one minor/U-21 Ulster Championship game in the last 5 years.  I may be wrong but its not by much.  We have to look at why we are not developing winning underage teams.  Look at what Cavan have done.  They have brought in quality underage coaches and they are now reaping the benefits with consecutive U-21 Ulster titles and  a young, hungry senior team.
That is the only long term solution for Fermanagh football.  Lets look at the big picture.  Yes invest resources in the senior team.  But we have to invest in the youth as well.  The investment has to be planned, monitored and evaluated.  There has to be attainable goals that can be measured in some way. Otherwise we will fall further behind.  With emigration taking hold in many Fermanagh clubs, we have to make sure our youth is getting the best coaching available. 

[FermGael]

Good points.  Well made.
The schools will be a huge issue.  Its great to see St Congall's having somebody of the calibre of Tony Collins in the school.
When the schools merge, he has the schools experience with St Mary's Magherafelt to push the new school on.

But when you look at our clubs and their underage structure you have to be worried.
At U-16, minor and U-21 level in the Ulster club championship we get hammered.
At senior level only 2 clubs have won Ulster club championship games, Roslea and Enniskillen Gaels.
Every other Fermanagh club champion over the last 25 years have been beat and well beat at that.
I witnessed last years U-16 final in Fermanagh and the lack of basic skills on both teams was shocking.
We need to have coaches working with young players whose target is not winning but producing players who have
the basics well mastered.  The coaches that are working with the county board and with the clubs have to be properly evaluated.  We have to look at the work being done in Tipp, Cavan.  Counties with similar expectations and problems as ourselves.Fermanagh county board has a Chance to look at the big picture.  Its either that or we will be stuck in the same place for the next 10 years.

[ExiledGael]

Not in a great position to judge the structures at school and underage levels so will leave that to others. Hard to analyse anything long term anyway considering I'm still baffled by what happened one day ago.
Still don't understand how that game was lost. We were cruising but one setback and the wheels totally fell off. In any case, I'm not sure what we would have gained from an outing against Kildare or whoever next time out.
Sticking to the positives we have at least managed to get out of Division Four for next year, will be playing against a much higher standard of opposition with a few interesting derbies (Monaghan, Cavan, even Meath close by) so we should learn more from that than travelling to Ruislip, Dr Cullen Park and Dungarvan.
Eoin Donnelly has been a real find, Daniel Kille looks quite comfortable at that level and Conor Quigley had another very good season overall. We've also learned a lot about a few others and will be better placed next year. Hopefully management and core of key players stay around.