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Would it be acceptable if the gaa ended the Allianz sponsorship but still kept them as an insurance provider.
Id say its near impossible to get an insurance policy with any company thats not dodgy in some way. Or linked to similar activity.

I've no doubt there are plenty of insurance companies who haven't actively sought to profit from the mass slaughter of Gazans, but on the off chance there are none, then maybe opt for one that isn't topping the table at such morally bankrupt profiteering.

[bare minimum]

This is a bit of a cult. Comply or we will pull you on it.

Anyone who can't be arsed/doesn't agree with being asked to do the absolute bare minimum of not standing in front of an Allianz sponsorship board, deserves to be called out.

Wise up would ya, you'll be saying they are promoting genocide next

I don't think they could be accused of that. They could however, be accused of making a conscious decision not to stand side by side with those vocally opposing those complicit in a genocide.

Kerry Group supply the Israeli Army with food. No talk of boycotts in Kerry.

Kellogg's supply the Israeli army with breakfast cereals. Any parents stop their kids going around with Kellogg's emblazoned Cúl Camp gear?

Are you arguing that it's wrong to challenge one of the single biggest culprits of profiteering from genocide, unless absolutely all companies doing so are boycotted? Because if you are, it's fair stupid argument.

"Don't try to solve any problem, unless you are prepared to solve asbolutely every problem".

FFS I'm not here to speak on behalf of Tadhg Hickey. I'm merely (repeatedly) pointing out the blindingly obvious meaning behind his satirical tweets on the death toll - i.e. that the people reporting it are the same people who insisted they saw video evidence of babies being beheaded. I.e. by lying b*****ds. I've asked you I don't know how many times, but sure what the heck, I'll ask again:  Would you agree that those in US/UK governments and media outlets reporting on the death toll in Iran are perhaps not all that trustworthy in reporting events in the middle east, given the lies they knowingly spouted in order to allow the wholesale slaughter of tens of thousands of Gazans?

P.s. ref you and Gaza...my point was that you persistently attempted to hijack the Gaza genocide thread to talk about Russia and Ukraine. You  accused me of not caring about Iranian civilians, but when people on this board tried to talk about the wholesale slaughter of 70,000 palestinians, you repeatedly tried to deflect from the topic.

Oh I get the point he is trying very hard indeed to make. My point is, he is doing it while innocent Iranian protestors are being murdered in their thousands. Utterly tasteless and in his pathetic attempts at satire he is mocking the dead.

Political satire is always the most potent at a time of conflict. The Iraq invasion involved around 1 millions dead, and TV shows like Bremnar, Bird & Fortune thrived on the satire.

And it is a mockery of the dead because there are many thousands dead, maybe not 5 billion dead, like ho-ho-ho-ho Tadhg so cleverly satirises, but for him they don't matter. Unworthy victims.

Funny how you are happy to refute a deliberately satirical death toll by a comedian as though it was serious, but have no comment on the serious claims of the death toll by the Western governments/media. Do you believe their estimates? Would you agree that they are perhaps not all that trustworthy in reporting events in the middle east? (Sorry to have to repeat that last question, but you seem coy about answering it).

Because for him, like you, the Iranian mullah regime is an enemy of Israel and that's the bottom line.

He is no better than a flag waving Zionist. Just the mirror image of that which he professes to hate.

I don't like Israeli regime, so therefor I like the Iranian regime? What a binary world you live in. If it weren't for straw man arguments, you'd have precisely nothing to offer. And as for you labelling of Tadhg/myself, I wonder what label can be stuck on someone like you who tried so valiently to derail, interrupt and distract any discussion about the indiscriminate slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Gazans on the thread about that genocide?

I said he was deranged and I meant it.

And I meant it when asked you is he as deranged as the people who claimed babies were beheaded in order to justify murdering hundreds of thousands of peolpe indescriminately. Still waiting on an answer.

Nothing I can do to stop him or others with their disgusting tweets. Call it satire all you like, it's mocking the Iranian dead.

If his intention was to mock Iranian dead, why would he be referencing beheaded babies, if not to use satire to point out that the people reporting the death tolls have a clear track record of lying about the middle east. Eaither you are too stupid to understand fairly clear satire, or you do understand it, and are hoping that it's everyone else who is that stupid.

If he doesn't believe the accounts of some regarding what is happening in Iran, whatever, but how many Iranian deaths are acceptable to Tadhg? 1000, 2000, 10000? At what stage does his 'satire' not work any more?

Not only did he not say any number was "acceptable" (set aside the straw man arguments for one second ffs), but his reference to the number of casualties was, again, about the trustworthiness of those reporting them.

Do you think those who claimed they saw footage of babies being beheaded should be trusted to accurately report what's happening in Iran?

Tadhg can lounge about in the gutter while the blood is on the streets in Tehran all he likes with his 'satire'. Are there others there with him? I'm sure there are.

So...are political satirists back allowed to use satire again to make their points? Is your short-lived ban over?

So he doesn't believe 'western government's pronouncements'. Fine.  Is he in denial that the Iranian regime has murdered protesters? Are you?

Haven't seen any such denial from him or me. I've seen him use satire to challenge the accounts given by the people/states/media outlets who tried/are still trying to claim that Palestians beheaded Isreali babies on Oct 7th.

When the people who deliberatly lied about beheaded babies start claiming once again to have the "facts" about what is happening in the middle east, wouldn't it be sheer daft to take them blindly at their word?

This guy is seriously unwell

https://x.com/tadhghickey/status/2010432327873364119?s=46

Does he have conversations with himself on online forums?

Aw glad you're here, I don't feel so lonely now all the humanitarians have arrived.

Anyway, more from Tadhg:

https://x.com/tadhghickey/status/2011178827884494987?s=46

Seen that one. Nice to see not everyone has ignored the fact that bogus claims of 'beheaded babies' were used to justify a genocide.

Or as any normal person would see it:

Totally tasteless giving that the bodies of protestors ARE actually piling up in Iran.

But sure, all fun and comedy to our Tadhg.

The man is demented. See previous 'comedy' about Iranian 'babes'.

As tasteless as actually lying about babies being beheaded in order to facilitate and justify the piling up of Palestinian bodies in their hundreds of thousands? Maybe Tadhg's crime is wrose than that, saying as it's the one you got offended by.

Maybe Tadhg could behave like a non-deranged person and just put out a tweet condemning Israel for using propaganda and lies to justify genocide and leave it at that. I'm sure he already has.

But using the above to mock a serious situation in Iran where protestors are being murdered is beyond tasteless.

At least you've admitted he has committed a 'crime'.

And on he goes:

https://x.com/EyesOnSouth1/status/2011358755993329667?s=20

I don't think it was just Israel who lied about beheaded babies. Don't forget Biden and Trump both lied and claimed they saw footage of babies being beheaded, but that's besides the point. Safe to say that he's using satire to draw attention to the fact that western government's pronouncement of what is happening in the middle east is not always to be trusted. Is Tadhg the only political satirist who should not be allowed to use satire? Or should all comedians/satiriest stop using comedy/satire?

This guy is seriously unwell

https://x.com/tadhghickey/status/2010432327873364119?s=46

Does he have conversations with himself on online forums?

Aw glad you're here, I don't feel so lonely now all the humanitarians have arrived.

Anyway, more from Tadhg:

https://x.com/tadhghickey/status/2011178827884494987?s=46

Seen that one. Nice to see not everyone has ignored the fact that bogus claims of 'beheaded babies' were used to justify a genocide.

Or as any normal person would see it:

Totally tasteless giving that the bodies of protestors ARE actually piling up in Iran.

But sure, all fun and comedy to our Tadhg.

The man is demented. See previous 'comedy' about Iranian 'babes'.

As tasteless as actually lying about babies being beheaded in order to facilitate and justify the piling up of Palestinian bodies in their hundreds of thousands? Maybe Tadhg's crime is wrose than that, saying as it's the one you got offended by.

This guy is seriously unwell

https://x.com/tadhghickey/status/2010432327873364119?s=46

Does he have conversations with himself on online forums?

Aw glad you're here, I don't feel so lonely now all the humanitarians have arrived.

Anyway, more from Tadhg:

https://x.com/tadhghickey/status/2011178827884494987?s=46

Seen that one. Nice to see not everyone has ignored the fact that bogus claims of 'beheaded babies' were used to justify a genocide.

This guy is seriously unwell

https://x.com/tadhghickey/status/2010432327873364119?s=46

Does he have conversations with himself on online forums?

The GAA has ignored county boards opinions and ploughed on. Down could make a huge statement.

I go to league games. I for one think this is a nonsense by Saval.

If the genocide and killing of innocent civilians is to you a nonsense then I hope you make your feelings known to your club rep before Thursday Snoop.

Taken totally out of context, if you read.my initial post, the genocide is terrible, and that the west sits back and let's it happen
What is nonsense is the motion. Keep politics out of sport.
End of conversation for me.

1. Sport is always political.
2. Protesting a genocide is not political. It's humanitarian.

[is somewhere in between self flagellation and virtue signalling. Only yourself suffers.]

If every club and then county did the same the GAA would have to act, fair play to Saval.

But they won't. Because when push comes to shove we don't go to national league games because of Allianz. We don't refer to it as the "Allianz" (a la Heineken Cup). It's a football /hurling league. Pulling out of it because of a sponsor is somewhere in between self flagellation and virtue signalling. Only yourself suffers.

The same criticisms were laid at the feet of the Dunnes Stores strikers on Henry Street during S.African apartheid. "Virtue singalling". "Only hurting yourselves". "Will achieve nothing". Probably would have been called "knobheads" the likes of yourself back then too, had the term existed in the mid 80s. But the most effective protests against injustice have always been the ones that involved sacrifice and "hurting" ones self. The women in that strike survived for the almost 3 year duration of it on £21 a week; one had had her home repossessed. They stuck at it.

Turns out the stand taken by that handful of women standing outside Dunnes on Henry street led directly to the southern government becoming the first in the western world to ban the import of South African goods and the snowball grew from there and ended in the fall of Apartheid. Today there's a street in Soweto named after Mary Manning and the women were all invited to Mandela's funeral.

Nobody is suggesting that Saval's motion will end Isreal's genocide. The Dunnes Strikers didn't envisage their strike was going to be a catalyst for what followed. They just wanted to do the right thing, and there's no wrong time do do the right thing.

I'll support Saval's motion. You can keep calling them "tokenistic knobheads" if that makes you feel good.

[It was breaking the law.]

In an act of piracy the Thug States of America have seized a Russian flagged ship in International waters.....   

You could at least tell the actual story before spouting nonsense.

https://news.sky.com/story/greenland-trump-white-house-live-venezuela-maduro-capture-strikes-colombia-latest-13489831

It isnt far wrong. Uk and us siezed ship registrated in Russia

A stateless ship given temporary registration on Christmas eve by Russia (wonder why) after being linked with several operations where it broke Iranian oil sanctions.
It was breaking the law.

Sure that's grand, no? Laws don't seem to matter much these days

Not with many here, no.

Yes because gaaboard contibutors are the ones who we should be talking about when it comes to global stability and international law, rather than the US president.