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Title: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 02:46:00 PM
So as not to disrupt the Charlton thread.

What's your favourite Irish sporting myth.

A few to get the ball rolling.

- Big Jack used to buy huge rounds and pay by cheque knowing the publican would frame rather than cash. Was a demon for it, but no record of any framed cheque exists.

- Socrates played (and often won) Sigerson for UCD while studying in the Royal College of Surgeons after being passed by Bohs or Shels or both because he smoked. This was quite the feat as he visited Dublin once as coach of the Brazil team when they played Ireland in 2010. This one made the Sunday Tribune obituary to the man, so I think it wins.

-Limerick is the sports capital of Ireland

-Germanys away shirt is green because Ireland were the first team to play them after the war, even though Switzerland did and Germany always wore green away as thats the colour of the pitch.

-Rugby is the national sport

- Jason Sherlock/Anthony Tohill/Kevin Moran/Graham Geraghty were on trial at Liverpool/Arsenal/Man United and Dalgliesh/Wenger/Ferguson/Big Ron/Ray Parlour/Lee Dixon said they were the fittest guy they had ever seen and wrote it in their book, but the edition people have must have cut it as its not there now.

Floor is open.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 16, 2020, 02:49:01 PM
Dublin GAA is not corruptly overfunded and sure it's good for the game they are winning every year
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: GetOverTheBar on July 16, 2020, 02:50:25 PM
There is one about Xabi Alonso taking a game for someone too.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 02:50:54 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 16, 2020, 02:49:01 PM
Dublin GAA is not corruptly overfunded and sure it's good for the game they are winning every year

I Don't think you quite grasped the spirit of the thread, but carry on.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 02:53:54 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on July 16, 2020, 02:50:25 PM
There is one about Xabi Alonso taking a game for someone too.

Thats a good one. He did a summer and went to Croker for a game. Suddently he has an U15 AI medal for Kells. Which is doubly impressive since they didn't win that. And he was 16.

Another one reported as fact
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: johnnycool on July 16, 2020, 03:11:02 PM
Sean Kelly and Stephen Roche were as clean as the driven snow..

If only Roy Keane had stayed in Saipan, Ireland would have gotten to a semi-final.

If only that Mayo team had shown a bit of respect in Foxford back in 1951.

Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 03:13:44 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2020, 03:11:02 PM

If only that Mayo team had shown a bit of respect in Foxford back in 1951.
Another belter. Is any of that saga true?
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 03:20:12 PM
Stolen from Sid. Hill 16, built in 1915, was built with rubble from the rising. It was Hill 60 until the 30s.

Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: sid waddell on July 16, 2020, 03:20:46 PM
Father Bingo Bob McElligott put a curse on the Kerry football team in 1902 because one of the players skipped mass, he said they'd never win an All-Ireland as long as that player lived. The player ended up living to 104 years of age and the curse didn't work.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: ONeill on July 16, 2020, 03:42:29 PM
A chinook once took off at Crossmaglen and accidentally blew a point over the bar for Cross. It was also brokencrossbar's only point from play that year.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: ONeill on July 16, 2020, 03:44:56 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 03:13:44 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2020, 03:11:02 PM

If only that Mayo team had shown a bit of respect in Foxford back in 1951.
Another belter. Is any of that saga true?

I watched a show on the TV about Aidan O'Shea trying his hand at NFL and he met the flying doctor. The veteran Mayo man says he can't remember any of it atall.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: GetOverTheBar on July 16, 2020, 03:48:22 PM
O'Gara refusing to shake the Queens hand on the back of that photo is another good one.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: HiMucker on July 16, 2020, 03:50:43 PM
That there is a media bias against Tyrone
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: whitey on July 16, 2020, 04:06:28 PM
2 that come to mind

A certain well known Dublin footballer back in the 80s had been in jail for stabbing someone

Sean Boylan used to send "civilians" on recon missions the week before the All Ireland to dig up dirt on opposing players, that would then be used to sledge them on the big day

A certain Mayo footballer crashed into closed  railway gates on the way home from the Galway Races and left the front number plate behind
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: sid waddell on July 16, 2020, 04:15:42 PM
Paddy Cullen being Mr. X.

A categorically false rumour that went around every pub in Dublin in 1993/94.

The Pizzagate of its time.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 16, 2020, 04:25:01 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 16, 2020, 04:06:28 PM
2 that come to mind

A certain well known Dublin footballer back in the 80s had been in jail for stabbing someone

Sean Boylan used to send "civilians" on recon missions the week before the All Ireland to dig up dirt on opposing players, that would then be used to sledge them on the big day

A certain Mayo footballer crashed into closed  railway gates on the way home from the Galway Races and left the front number plate behind

Thats 3.

Or. Are you saying ones not a myth #plotthickens
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: ONeill on July 16, 2020, 04:30:30 PM
Kevin McCabe went for the point.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on July 16, 2020, 04:15:42 PM
Paddy Cullen being Mr. X.

A categorically false rumour that went around every pub in Dublin in 1993/94.

The Pizzagate of its time.

Even after Mr X was jailed that rumour persisted. I always felt that one was pointedly malicious, someone gained from that.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Boycey on July 16, 2020, 04:49:47 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 03:20:12 PM
Stolen from Sid. Hill 16, built in 1915, was built with rubble from the rising. It was Hill 60 until the 30s.

The girl giving us the guided tour of Croker some years back asked our group about this. A Dublin father beamed with pride as young Johnny parroted the 1916 answer his father had no doubt taught him...

I couldn't stop myself putting him, the girl doing the tour and the whole group right. Jaysus I'm a spiteful cnut...
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: magpie seanie on July 16, 2020, 04:50:38 PM
Kieran McGeeney.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 16, 2020, 04:56:46 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 03:13:44 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2020, 03:11:02 PM

If only that Mayo team had shown a bit of respect in Foxford back in 1951.
Another belter. Is any of that saga true?
No.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: whitey on July 16, 2020, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 16, 2020, 04:56:46 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 03:13:44 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2020, 03:11:02 PM

If only that Mayo team had shown a bit of respect in Foxford back in 1951.
Another belter. Is any of that saga true?
No.

I took the tour at Foxford Woolen mills a few years ago and they had a quote up from Sean Flanagan-"the only thing warmer than a Foxford Blanket is a Foxford Welcome" (or something along those lines) Ironic seeing as that is where the curse was supposedly cast on the team by the priest
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 05:17:50 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 16, 2020, 04:56:46 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 03:13:44 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2020, 03:11:02 PM

If only that Mayo team had shown a bit of respect in Foxford back in 1951.
Another belter. Is any of that saga true?
No.
Yet Mayo have allowed it psyche them out and use it as a justification for failure. There is a Phd in that. Or a box set.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Rossfan on July 16, 2020, 05:23:34 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2020, 03:11:02 PM
Sean Kelly and Stephen Roche were as clean as the driven snow..


Charlie Haughey won the Tour de France.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: ONeill on July 16, 2020, 05:27:03 PM
Michelle de Bruin pissed pure whiskey.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: StephenC on July 16, 2020, 05:47:27 PM
Matt Gallagher never kicked the ball in the 1992 AI final.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: GetOverTheBar on July 16, 2020, 06:09:53 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on July 16, 2020, 04:15:42 PM
Paddy Cullen being Mr. X.

A categorically false rumour that went around every pub in Dublin in 1993/94.

The Pizzagate of its time.

Even after Mr X was jailed that rumour persisted. I always felt that one was pointedly malicious, someone gained from that.

Sorry lads your going to have to give me the story behind this one.....
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Boycey on July 16, 2020, 06:41:33 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on July 16, 2020, 06:09:53 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on July 16, 2020, 04:15:42 PM
Paddy Cullen being Mr. X.

A categorically false rumour that went around every pub in Dublin in 1993/94.

The Pizzagate of its time.

Even after Mr X was jailed that rumour persisted. I always felt that one was pointedly malicious, someone gained from that.

Sorry lads your going to have to give me the story behind this one.....

Not an exact account but from memory 14 year old girl in Dublin had a baby, and it was 'fact' at the time that Paddy Cullen was the father
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: whitey on July 16, 2020, 06:46:37 PM
Quote from: Boycey on July 16, 2020, 06:41:33 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on July 16, 2020, 06:09:53 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on July 16, 2020, 04:15:42 PM
Paddy Cullen being Mr. X.

A categorically false rumour that went around every pub in Dublin in 1993/94.

The Pizzagate of its time.

Even after Mr X was jailed that rumour persisted. I always felt that one was pointedly malicious, someone gained from that.

Sorry lads your going to have to give me the story behind this one.....

Not an exact account but from memory 14 year old girl in Dublin had a baby, and it was 'fact' at the time that Paddy Cullen was the father

And the counter argument being floated to it being Paddy, was that he had just bought a new car, and sure why would he have bought a new car if the was going to jail
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 08:29:11 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on July 16, 2020, 06:09:53 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on July 16, 2020, 04:15:42 PM
Paddy Cullen being Mr. X.

A categorically false rumour that went around every pub in Dublin in 1993/94.

The Pizzagate of its time.

Even after Mr X was jailed that rumour persisted. I always felt that one was pointedly malicious, someone gained from that.

Sorry lads your going to have to give me the story behind this one.....

The X case was an 14 year old who got pregnant after flinging with a married neighbour. She went to England and her folks were told DNA could be taken from the foetus for the statutory rape case. So they rang the Gardai who told them you have just told us you plan to commit a crime, come home and an injunctionwas put on them. This created a constitutional crisis and a couple of referendums.

A wildfire rumour started that Paddy Cullen was the rapist that was absolute Fact! He was destroyed and even the jailing of the geezer a number of years later didn't stop it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney_General_v._X#:~:text=Attorney%20General%20v%20X%2C%20%5B1992,including%20the%20risk%20of%20suicide.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: HiMucker on July 16, 2020, 09:17:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 16, 2020, 05:27:03 PM
Michelle de Bruin pissed pure whiskey.
;D very good
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: armaghniac on July 16, 2020, 09:31:28 PM
The fake news about the 70s Brazilian soccer player having studied in Dublin and played for UCD/College of Surgeons.
https://www.the42.ie/socrates-ireland-4082766-Jun2018/
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Eamonnca1 on July 16, 2020, 09:35:24 PM
The game is called "football" because you use your foot to kick the ball.

Nobody in GAA grounds was called a "patron" until Christie Cooney became GAA President.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: From the Bunker on July 16, 2020, 09:49:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 16, 2020, 03:44:56 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 03:13:44 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2020, 03:11:02 PM

If only that Mayo team had shown a bit of respect in Foxford back in 1951.
Another belter. Is any of that saga true?

I watched a show on the TV about Aidan O'Shea trying his hand at NFL and he met the flying doctor. The veteran Mayo man says he can't remember any of it atall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kocuYdf5aOI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kocuYdf5aOI)
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: From the Bunker on July 16, 2020, 09:55:31 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on July 16, 2020, 09:35:24 PM
The game is called "football" because you use your foot to kick the ball.

Nobody in GAA grounds was called a "patron" until Christie Cooney became GAA President.

American Football is called football aswell and the fecking ball is hardly ever kicked in a game!
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Main Street on July 16, 2020, 10:19:46 PM
Larry Reilly
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 10:37:32 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 16, 2020, 09:31:28 PM
The fake news about the 70s Brazilian soccer player having studied in Dublin and played for UCD/College of Surgeons.
https://www.the42.ie/socrates-ireland-4082766-Jun2018/

Bewildering that someone in both the FAI and UCD confirmed it
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 16, 2020, 11:08:15 PM
Biddy Early curse
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: sid waddell on July 16, 2020, 11:11:29 PM
The Socrates yarn is great craic, which is why it still has legs.

But most importantly, like the existence of Santa Claus, it's true.  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Main Street on July 16, 2020, 11:33:56 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 16, 2020, 10:37:32 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 16, 2020, 09:31:28 PM
The fake news about the 70s Brazilian soccer player having studied in Dublin and played for UCD/College of Surgeons.
https://www.the42.ie/socrates-ireland-4082766-Jun2018/

Bewildering that someone in both the FAI and UCD confirmed it
Nothing bewilders me about the FAI but you have been taken for a ride by the  'someone in the UCD'.
There was no  UCD contact,  just a Guardian reader and he obviously took the Guardian and yourself for a bit of a ride and in true fashion he added on to the yarn another absurdity.  And there was no Dr. Terry  there was a Dr.Tony O'Neill, the renowned UCD coach.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Sportacus on July 17, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Go Games are non-competitive.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Orior on July 17, 2020, 01:31:54 PM
There used to be a myth that Armagh would never win an All-Ireland while they wore orange jerseys.Or maybe it was a curse.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Main Street on July 17, 2020, 01:47:50 PM
The wide open spaces of Croke Park.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: lurganblue on July 17, 2020, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 17, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Go Games are non-competitive.

But they do always end in a draw
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: johnnycool on July 17, 2020, 02:08:50 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 17, 2020, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 17, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Go Games are non-competitive.

But they do always end in a draw

I was officiating a wee go games blitz and a parent of one of the kids who played asked me at the end who won. I told them they all won. I think then he knew he was being a knob or at least knew I thought he was being a knob.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: From the Bunker on July 17, 2020, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 17, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Go Games are non-competitive.

Yes, have been at a plethora of Go Games the last couple of years. Good players are never subbed off. Weak players are hidden in the corners of the pitch and subbed off in rotation. If a weak player get the ball he is encouraged to pass. The stronger player is told to run with the ball and never encouraged to pass to a weaker player . Winning is all that matters to the Coaches. Coach ego is far more important than weak player or team development.  :-\
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2020, 03:33:16 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 16, 2020, 10:19:46 PM
Larry Reilly

That's no myth...Larry once got bitten by a rattle snake and after 3 days of excruciating pain the snake finally died. Now go home and say 5 decades of the Rosary ;)
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: trailer on July 17, 2020, 05:47:46 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 17, 2020, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 17, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Go Games are non-competitive.

Yes, have been at a plethora of Go Games the last couple of years. Good players are never subbed off. Weak players are hidden in the corners of the pitch and subbed off in rotation. If a weak player get the ball he is encouraged to pass. The stronger player is told to run with the ball and never encouraged to pass to a weaker player . Winning is all that matters to the Coaches. Coach ego is far more important than weak player or team development.  :-\

Some wankers coaching them u8 and u10 teams. Arseholes who think they're Jim Gavin.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: bannside on July 17, 2020, 09:05:08 PM
Apparently Larry Reilly did the triathlon the morning of the Cavan county final. Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: armaghniac on July 17, 2020, 09:26:39 PM
Cuchulainn turned a dog inside out with a sliothar in Mullaghbane.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: tonto1888 on July 17, 2020, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: Orior on July 17, 2020, 01:31:54 PM
There used to be a myth that Armagh would never win an All-Ireland while they wore orange jerseys.Or maybe it was a curse.

Haha. I remember that
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: From the Bunker on July 18, 2020, 12:26:45 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 17, 2020, 05:47:46 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 17, 2020, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 17, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Go Games are non-competitive.

Yes, have been at a plethora of Go Games the last couple of years. Good players are never subbed off. Weak players are hidden in the corners of the pitch and subbed off in rotation. If a weak player get the ball he is encouraged to pass. The stronger player is told to run with the ball and never encouraged to pass to a weaker player . Winning is all that matters to the Coaches. Coach ego is far more important than weak player or team development.  :-\

Some wankers coaching them u8 and u10 teams. Arseholes who think they're Jim Gavin.

Assholes with short term goals.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Kernan_is_King on July 18, 2020, 12:37:56 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2020, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: Orior on July 17, 2020, 01:31:54 PM
There used to be a myth that Armagh would never win an All-Ireland while they wore orange jerseys.Or maybe it was a curse.

Haha. I remember that

What Armagh needed was a proper manager.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: From the Bunker on July 18, 2020, 12:57:42 AM
Quote from: Kernan_is_King on July 18, 2020, 12:37:56 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2020, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: Orior on July 17, 2020, 01:31:54 PM
There used to be a myth that Armagh would never win an All-Ireland while they wore orange jerseys.Or maybe it was a curse.

Haha. I remember that

What Armagh needed was a proper manager.

And some proper players!
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on July 18, 2020, 08:15:11 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2020, 12:26:45 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 17, 2020, 05:47:46 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 17, 2020, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 17, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Go Games are non-competitive.

Yes, have been at a plethora of Go Games the last couple of years. Good players are never subbed off. Weak players are hidden in the corners of the pitch and subbed off in rotation. If a weak player get the ball he is encouraged to pass. The stronger player is told to run with the ball and never encouraged to pass to a weaker player . Winning is all that matters to the Coaches. Coach ego is far more important than weak player or team development.  :-\

Some wankers coaching them u8 and u10 teams. Arseholes who think they're Jim Gavin.

Assholes with short term goals.

The only thing worse is bleeding heart parents taking their kids to a plethora of matches, complaining at every farts turn about the coaches and never getting involved to help.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: RedHand88 on July 18, 2020, 09:09:56 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on July 16, 2020, 02:50:25 PM
There is one about Xabi Alonso taking a game for someone too.

The question used to be "who is the only person with a champions league medal and an all Ireland medal?"
We can be sure he almost certainly played a game, an all Ireland medal though, dubious.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: RedHand88 on July 18, 2020, 09:13:52 AM
Wait a minute, hill 16 wasn't built on the rubble of the rising?
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: mayoman dan on July 18, 2020, 09:44:32 AM
Parnell park is the Dubs home ground ;D
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2020, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on July 18, 2020, 08:15:11 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2020, 12:26:45 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 17, 2020, 05:47:46 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 17, 2020, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 17, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Go Games are non-competitive.

Yes, have been at a plethora of Go Games the last couple of years. Good players are never subbed off. Weak players are hidden in the corners of the pitch and subbed off in rotation. If a weak player get the ball he is encouraged to pass. The stronger player is told to run with the ball and never encouraged to pass to a weaker player . Winning is all that matters to the Coaches. Coach ego is far more important than weak player or team development.  :-\

Some wankers coaching them u8 and u10 teams. Arseholes who think they're Jim Gavin.

Assholes with short term goals.

The only thing worse is bleeding heart parents taking their kids to a plethora of matches, complaining at every farts turn about the coaches and never getting involved to help.

+1
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: From the Bunker on July 18, 2020, 10:05:27 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2020, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on July 18, 2020, 08:15:11 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2020, 12:26:45 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 17, 2020, 05:47:46 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 17, 2020, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 17, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Go Games are non-competitive.

Yes, have been at a plethora of Go Games the last couple of years. Good players are never subbed off. Weak players are hidden in the corners of the pitch and subbed off in rotation. If a weak player get the ball he is encouraged to pass. The stronger player is told to run with the ball and never encouraged to pass to a weaker player . Winning is all that matters to the Coaches. Coach ego is far more important than weak player or team development.  :-\

Some wankers coaching them u8 and u10 teams. Arseholes who think they're Jim Gavin.

Assholes with short term goals.

The only thing worse is bleeding heart parents taking their kids to a plethora of matches, complaining at every farts turn about the coaches and never getting involved to help.

+1

Yeah, our course! Was helping at a registration day and we the coaches were talking about the year ahead. One of the Managers was talking about the under 10 team. He stated that for him the goal was to have all the best players playing together all the time and had no time for weaker players. I told him if that's the way you think, go over to the parents of these children at the registration and tell them not to be wasting their money and that their children are of no use.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: naka on July 18, 2020, 11:09:01 AM
Tbf every club is the same, so short sighted.
My young fellow quit at 15 fed up  wasting his time and he wasn't a bad footballer.
Reality is same 16/17 played week in week out for 6 years
Club came to him last week as they are now struggling for numbers in his age group
I let him decide.
He told them where to go.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: From the Bunker on July 18, 2020, 11:40:00 AM
Quote from: naka on July 18, 2020, 11:09:01 AM
Tbf every club is the same, so short sighted.
My young fellow quit at 15 fed up  wasting his time and he wasn't a bad footballer.
Reality is same 16/17 played week in week out for 6 years
Club came to him last week as they are now struggling for numbers in his age group
I let him decide.
He told them where to go.

Go games (in theory) are for young lads to gain confidence and experience in a (real) game setting. They are also there to learn about team play and positional play. Lads watching games from the subs bench or pigeon holed into cameo corner forward roles won't learn this. I usually try to play a weaker player in a position that is in the thick of things. Don't hide them. They will get to touch the ball more and learn to deal with situations.  Situations you can't learn on your own in the back garden. 
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: RedHand88 on July 18, 2020, 12:38:09 PM
Sky told Mickey Harte to narrow the pitch in Omagh.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: charlieTully on July 18, 2020, 12:59:01 PM
Kerry let armagh win the AI. Oh wait..   
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: seafoid on July 18, 2020, 01:41:02 PM
Soccer could never be played in GAA pitches
Rugby was a foreign sport
Kerry would always give the Dubs a game
Money means nothing in the GAA
Ignoring the Leinster championship doesn't mean anything.
The All Ireland is open to everyone
Mayo were never good enough
Hats flags and headbands
Anyone for the last of the choc ices
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Sportacus on July 18, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: naka on July 18, 2020, 11:09:01 AM
Tbf every club is the same, so short sighted.
My young fellow quit at 15 fed up  wasting his time and he wasn't a bad footballer.
Reality is same 16/17 played week in week out for 6 years
Club came to him last week as they are now struggling for numbers in his age group
I let him decide.
He told them where to go.
That's bitter sweet.  An awful lot could be learned from that tale.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 18, 2020, 01:48:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 18, 2020, 01:07:48 PM
Tyrone players had phone numbers written on their arms.

Angelic Declan O'Sullivan's punching photograph was photoshopped.

Was this #shadowgate / #handbaggate? Lets not go there again.....ok lets 😂😃
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Rossfan on July 18, 2020, 01:53:24 PM
Everyone loves Rugby.
Rugby is our National sport.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: ONeill on July 18, 2020, 02:16:56 PM
(insert name) don't like playing when it's wet.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: armaghniac on July 18, 2020, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 18, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: naka on July 18, 2020, 11:09:01 AM
Tbf every club is the same, so short sighted.
My young fellow quit at 15 fed up  wasting his time and he wasn't a bad footballer.
Reality is same 16/17 played week in week out for 6 years
Club came to him last week as they are now struggling for numbers in his age group
I let him decide.
He told them where to go.
That's bitter sweet.  An awful lot could be learned from that tale.

It could, but is there a range of people stepping forward to manage the Go games?
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: whitey on July 18, 2020, 03:12:25 PM
Andy Moran is a huge Roscommon fan
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Rossfan on July 18, 2020, 03:34:46 PM
Andy Moran is a Mayoman.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: trailer on July 18, 2020, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 18, 2020, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 18, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: naka on July 18, 2020, 11:09:01 AM
Tbf every club is the same, so short sighted.
My young fellow quit at 15 fed up  wasting his time and he wasn't a bad footballer.
Reality is same 16/17 played week in week out for 6 years
Club came to him last week as they are now struggling for numbers in his age group
I let him decide.
He told them where to go.
That's bitter sweet.  An awful lot could be learned from that tale.

It could, but is there a range of people stepping forward to manage the Go games?

Loads would do it. I have done it. But some of the shit that goes on would make you throw up.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: charlieTully on July 18, 2020, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: trailer on July 18, 2020, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 18, 2020, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 18, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: naka on July 18, 2020, 11:09:01 AM
Tbf every club is the same, so short sighted.
My young fellow quit at 15 fed up  wasting his time and he wasn't a bad footballer.
Reality is same 16/17 played week in week out for 6 years
Club came to him last week as they are now struggling for numbers in his age group
I let him decide.
He told them where to go.
That's bitter sweet.  An awful lot could be learned from that tale.

It could, but is there a range of people stepping forward to manage the Go games?

Loads would do it. I have done it. But some of the shit that goes on would make you throw up.

I got a shit load of abuse refereeing a game at our under 8 blitz last year. Apparently I didn't blow up a player for taking 2 touches in a move that led to a score. I made the losing team go home very unhappy according to the coach. I apologised saying its just a bit of fun sure,  a run out for them. Not according to coach. His team had a good chance of winning the shield says he. Anyway.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Itchy on July 18, 2020, 08:44:27 PM
Raymond Cunninghams point in 97 was wide.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 18, 2020, 09:16:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 18, 2020, 08:44:27 PM
Raymond Cunninghams point in 97 was wide.

Fight me
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Silver hill on July 18, 2020, 09:23:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2020, 10:05:27 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2020, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on July 18, 2020, 08:15:11 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2020, 12:26:45 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 17, 2020, 05:47:46 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 17, 2020, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 17, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Go Games are non-competitive.

Yes, have been at a plethora of Go Games the last couple of years. Good players are never subbed off. Weak players are hidden in the corners of the pitch and subbed off in rotation. If a weak player get the ball he is encouraged to pass. The stronger player is told to run with the ball and never encouraged to pass to a weaker player . Winning is all that matters to the Coaches. Coach ego is far more important than weak player or team development.  :-\

Some wankers coaching them u8 and u10 teams. Arseholes who think they're Jim Gavin.

Assholes with short term goals.

The only thing worse is bleeding heart parents taking their kids to a plethora of matches, complaining at every farts turn about the coaches and never getting involved to help.

+1

Yeah, our course! Was helping at a registration day and we the coaches were talking about the year ahead. One of the Managers was talking about the under 10 team. He stated that for him the goal was to have all the best players playing together all the time and had no time for weaker players. I told him if that's the way you think, go over to the parents of these children at the registration and tell them not to be wasting their money and that their children are of no use.
Is that a summary of what you think he thought about how to coach or did he actually say that?
Hard to believe anyone would be so stupid as to publicly say such a thing.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Rossfan on July 18, 2020, 10:14:00 PM
Irish soccerball fans "are the best in the World"
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: From the Bunker on July 19, 2020, 02:26:21 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 18, 2020, 09:23:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2020, 10:05:27 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2020, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on July 18, 2020, 08:15:11 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2020, 12:26:45 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 17, 2020, 05:47:46 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 17, 2020, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 17, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Go Games are non-competitive.

Yes, have been at a plethora of Go Games the last couple of years. Good players are never subbed off. Weak players are hidden in the corners of the pitch and subbed off in rotation. If a weak player get the ball he is encouraged to pass. The stronger player is told to run with the ball and never encouraged to pass to a weaker player . Winning is all that matters to the Coaches. Coach ego is far more important than weak player or team development.  :-\

Some wankers coaching them u8 and u10 teams. Arseholes who think they're Jim Gavin.

Assholes with short term goals.

The only thing worse is bleeding heart parents taking their kids to a plethora of matches, complaining at every farts turn about the coaches and never getting involved to help.

+1

Yeah, our course! Was helping at a registration day and we the coaches were talking about the year ahead. One of the Managers was talking about the under 10 team. He stated that for him the goal was to have all the best players playing together all the time and had no time for weaker players. I told him if that's the way you think, go over to the parents of these children at the registration and tell them not to be wasting their money and that their children are of no use.
Is that a summary of what you think he thought about how to coach or did he actually say that?
Hard to believe anyone would be so stupid as to publicly say such a thing.

He said it. There are many out there who don't say it, but do it!  :-\
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: trailer on July 19, 2020, 08:16:31 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 19, 2020, 02:26:21 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 18, 2020, 09:23:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2020, 10:05:27 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2020, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on July 18, 2020, 08:15:11 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 18, 2020, 12:26:45 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 17, 2020, 05:47:46 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 17, 2020, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 17, 2020, 08:13:58 AM
Go Games are non-competitive.

Yes, have been at a plethora of Go Games the last couple of years. Good players are never subbed off. Weak players are hidden in the corners of the pitch and subbed off in rotation. If a weak player get the ball he is encouraged to pass. The stronger player is told to run with the ball and never encouraged to pass to a weaker player . Winning is all that matters to the Coaches. Coach ego is far more important than weak player or team development.  :-\

Some wankers coaching them u8 and u10 teams. Arseholes who think they're Jim Gavin.

Assholes with short term goals.

The only thing worse is bleeding heart parents taking their kids to a plethora of matches, complaining at every farts turn about the coaches and never getting involved to help.

+1

Yeah, our course! Was helping at a registration day and we the coaches were talking about the year ahead. One of the Managers was talking about the under 10 team. He stated that for him the goal was to have all the best players playing together all the time and had no time for weaker players. I told him if that's the way you think, go over to the parents of these children at the registration and tell them not to be wasting their money and that their children are of no use.
Is that a summary of what you think he thought about how to coach or did he actually say that?
Hard to believe anyone would be so stupid as to publicly say such a thing.

He said it. There are many out there who don't say it, but do it!  :-\

If someone actually says that the club should step in really. That guy is a full time w**ker who was probably bullied a lot and has no friends.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: RedHand88 on July 19, 2020, 08:51:13 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on July 18, 2020, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: trailer on July 18, 2020, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 18, 2020, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 18, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: naka on July 18, 2020, 11:09:01 AM
Tbf every club is the same, so short sighted.
My young fellow quit at 15 fed up  wasting his time and he wasn't a bad footballer.
Reality is same 16/17 played week in week out for 6 years
Club came to him last week as they are now struggling for numbers in his age group
I let him decide.
He told them where to go.
That's bitter sweet.  An awful lot could be learned from that tale.

It could, but is there a range of people stepping forward to manage the Go games?

Loads would do it. I have done it. But some of the shit that goes on would make you throw up.

I got a shit load of abuse refereeing a game at our under 8 blitz last year. Apparently I didn't blow up a player for taking 2 touches in a move that led to a score. I made the losing team go home very unhappy according to the coach. I apologised saying its just a bit of fun sure,  a run out for them. Not according to coach. His team had a good chance of winning the shield says he. Anyway.

At under EIGHTS?! Are you serious? Must make the other half promise to not let me turn into one of these people when we've kids that age.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Jim Bob on July 19, 2020, 09:42:00 AM
Paddy Russell disallowed Tyrone's equalising point at the end of the 95 AIF because he thought it already was a draw at that stage.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: trailer on July 19, 2020, 10:00:35 AM
Armagh in 2002 were a team of gaelic footballers.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Silver hill on July 19, 2020, 10:11:20 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 18, 2020, 09:16:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 18, 2020, 08:44:27 PM
Raymond Cunninghams point in 97 was wide.

Fight me

At least 2 feet wide.
But hey, Cavan hadn't won an Ulster in years and they needed it more.  ::)
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Silver hill on July 19, 2020, 10:14:42 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 19, 2020, 10:00:35 AM
Armagh in 2002 were a team of gaelic footballers.
Mcgrane, Mcconville, Clarke, mcentees, O'rourke, McDonnell, marsden....decent bun any standards I would have thought
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Itchy on July 19, 2020, 08:58:42 PM
Colm O Rourke is the voice of the masses and consistently represents them when others wont.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: seafoid on July 19, 2020, 09:46:51 PM
Ireland are capable of getting to a RWC semi final
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: BennyCake on July 19, 2020, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: trailer on July 19, 2020, 10:00:35 AM
Armagh in 2002 were a team of gaelic footballers.

You don't win All Ireland's kicking dumbbells over the bar.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Bord na Mona man on July 19, 2020, 10:30:32 PM
Roy Keane ended Alf Inge Haaland's career
He called Mick McCarthy an English c**t
Mick McCarthy pulled his hamstring having a race against a journalist
Clare offered Offaly a replay in 1998
Teddy McCarthy eating chips and giving Clare fans the fingers
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Jim Bob on July 19, 2020, 10:52:22 PM
Francie Bellew never kicked the ball only hand passed
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: GetOverTheBar on July 20, 2020, 10:48:58 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 19, 2020, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: trailer on July 19, 2020, 10:00:35 AM
Armagh in 2002 were a team of gaelic footballers.

You don't win All Ireland's kicking dumbbells over the bar.

That's another myth.....they were big into the rowing machines though.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: seafoid on July 20, 2020, 11:09:07 AM
Top GAA players are amateurs
League of Ireland players are professionals
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: lurganblue on July 20, 2020, 11:58:11 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 19, 2020, 08:51:13 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on July 18, 2020, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: trailer on July 18, 2020, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 18, 2020, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 18, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: naka on July 18, 2020, 11:09:01 AM
Tbf every club is the same, so short sighted.
My young fellow quit at 15 fed up  wasting his time and he wasn't a bad footballer.
Reality is same 16/17 played week in week out for 6 years
Club came to him last week as they are now struggling for numbers in his age group
I let him decide.
He told them where to go.
That's bitter sweet.  An awful lot could be learned from that tale.

It could, but is there a range of people stepping forward to manage the Go games?

Loads would do it. I have done it. But some of the shit that goes on would make you throw up.

I got a shit load of abuse refereeing a game at our under 8 blitz last year. Apparently I didn't blow up a player for taking 2 touches in a move that led to a score. I made the losing team go home very unhappy according to the coach. I apologised saying its just a bit of fun sure,  a run out for them. Not according to coach. His team had a good chance of winning the shield says he. Anyway.

At under EIGHTS?! Are you serious? Must make the other half promise to not let me turn into one of these people when we've kids that age.

Ah it can be nuts at times.  Banning the parents entering the field last year was a great step but some coaches are of course over the top too.  I would have to say in my experience that is the exception rather than the rule.  Most are just Gaels trying to do their best for their club.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Itchy on July 20, 2020, 05:08:02 PM
Without naming names, I came up against a former inter county manager who was coaching a team of U10s against my team last year. This guy was relatively successful as an intercounty manager but personally I had never met him before. He turned out to be a lunatic. Roaring abuse at the ref, got sent off, refused to leave the pitch, called his team off the field and threatened to forfeit the game such was his rage. Then we played on, he proceeded to abuse the ref from the stand. His own club parents were mortified but because he was who he was they were afraid to say anything. After the game he went up to the ref, in his face and told him he was the shittest ref he ever met, demanded his name so he could check he was really a referree. Without doubt the biggest clown I ever came across at an underage game. Thank god a rarity.
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: Feckitt on July 20, 2020, 05:25:03 PM
Ah go on, just fecking tell us who it was
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 20, 2020, 05:25:52 PM
I witnessed an All Ireland winner as a player play with an extra man during an u10 tourno. In the 2nd half as they were well behind. Couldve been an accident but coupled with the abuse he was giving a (very) young ref i would have my doubts....
Title: Re: Great Irish Sporting Myths
Post by: BennyCake on July 20, 2020, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on July 20, 2020, 10:48:58 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 19, 2020, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: trailer on July 19, 2020, 10:00:35 AM
Armagh in 2002 were a team of gaelic footballers.

You don't win All Ireland's kicking dumbbells over the bar.

That's another myth.....they were big into the rowing machines though.

Fair enough... you don't win All Ireland's kicking rowing machines over the bar.