Hurling 2024

imtommygunn · March 23, 2024, 01:30:29 PM

Sf they have been in the last two this last two years. Yes they're not winning but they're beating the second best in Munster to get to the final. They're not that bad. Limerick are just a level above.

seafoid · March 23, 2024, 01:46:30 PM

Quote from: imtommygunn on March 23, 2024, 01:30:29 PMSf they have been in the last two this last two years. Yes they're not winning but they're beating the second best in Munster to get to the final. They're not that bad. Limerick are just a level above.

It's worse than that, tommy.
They don't have anyone to replace TJ. He is 36. In 2022 they stayed with Limerick until 7 minutes before the end. Last year they were gone 20 minutes from the end according to the Irish Times. They don't have the flow of young players to replace the ones who are aging.
The longest period between Kilkenny All Irelands is 10 years. This is year 10 of the latest famine.
Clare are probably better than them now.

seafoid · March 23, 2024, 01:55:20 PM

Quote from: Saffrongael on March 23, 2024, 11:17:08 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 23, 2024, 09:38:08 AMKilkenny are in trouble. Nicky Brennan quoted in the Irish Times
"The conveyor belt has slowed down. We just haven't been finding the players. "

There was no cat on the higher education rising stars (Fitzgibbon all stars)

4 Clare, 3 x Galway, Tipping, Limerick and 2 Déise.

Kilkenny are cat.

https://youtu.be/G7qEivYkgZM&t=68s

I would agree with you yet St Kieran's have been in the last 10 All Ireland school A finals, winning 6/7 of them

I know from Galway (hurling and football) that it takes a long time to integrate talented underage playerss into senior intercounty teams. It is a system. Kilkenny seem to be missing a generation of county players. Galway footballers had this problem in 2012 or so. It looks like it won't improve for a while.

marty34 · March 23, 2024, 01:59:16 PM

True, Limerick are a step above everybody else. They are going for 5-in-a-row this year. Never been done before so they're a special outfit.

Hard to judge other teams based on that. They have set the standard.

Limerick getting their lads back in time. Getting them ready for the harder sod. They've gave lads like Ó'Dalaigh, O'Brien and English etc. league game time and they've still very strong. Limerick will want to win the league.

They'll not be having any of this football craic 'we're not interested in the league' or we 'don't want to reach the final' etc. It's great preparation for their upcoming Munster championship.

I'd fancy Tipperary over Clare this week-end, going against the bookies. Cahill likes the league - although his teams have a habit of doing well in league and collapsing in Munster. So it'll be interesting. Maybe he has learned lessons from that. The next few months will tell us more.

It's a big year for Lohan and the Clare lads. Do they want League silverware or are they happy with their lot. They've a strong team named and are still without TK, RT and SOD. Three different, but excellent players for them. How will their fitness be come championship? For one thing, another flop in CP at the semi-final stage and it'd be hard on Lohan gain.

Blowitupref · March 23, 2024, 05:39:07 PM

50 minutes played Kilkenny 3-11 Limerick 1-11. Kilkenny down to 14 since the 37th minute with Eoin Cody seeing red.

Two big goal chances for Kilkenny not taken. 14 v 14 with Peter Casey getting sent off on 56 minutes. 65 mins played Kilkenny leading 3-15 to 1-12

Tatler Jack · March 23, 2024, 05:53:20 PM

KK 8 ahead with 10 mins to go. 14 a side now Limerick making a lot of basic skill errors - most unlike them and KK more up for it.

Overly physical game with too many frees.

Blowitupref · March 23, 2024, 06:03:22 PM

A very encouraging result and performance for Kilkenny. 3-17 to 1-15 it finished. As for Limerick It's a while since I've seen them give up so many goal scoring opportunities.

johnnycool · March 23, 2024, 09:49:53 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on March 23, 2024, 06:03:22 PMA very encouraging result and performance for Kilkenny. 3-17 to 1-15 it finished. As for Limerick It's a while since I've seen them give up so many goal scoring opportunities.

Allowing the young fella to be left alone with TJ Reid on a one on one is criminal for Limerick, I've never seen them so bad, but credit to Kilkenny, they do what they do and and deserve to reach the final.

Kiely has an issue or two to resolve and I know everyone says they'll come good as they've done before, and I know they left it a bit tight in Munster last year with Waterford doing them a favour, but they very might be nipped if they don't get their act together, but we'll know more in a few weeks time when the alleged handbrake will be taken off!

seafoid · March 24, 2024, 04:29:34 PM

Clare are well on top of Tipp.
It is very unusual to have Cork and KK on record or almost record droughts and Tipp rebuilding
So fat this decade they have no all Irelands.

johnnycool · March 24, 2024, 04:41:25 PM

Quote from: seafoid on March 24, 2024, 04:29:34 PMClare are well on top of Tipp.
It is very unusual to have Cork and KK on record or almost record droughts and Tipp rebuilding
So fat this decade they have no all Irelands.

Tipp happy to be going in at the break only 7 down, whatever hurling has been done by Clare so far.

Bonnar Maher is lots of things but a full forward isn't one of them, he needs to be further out the field winning dirty ball and driving forward with it.

Clare fouling giving Tipp a lifeline

seafoid · March 24, 2024, 04:52:59 PM

Quote from: johnnycool on March 24, 2024, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 24, 2024, 04:29:34 PMClare are well on top of Tipp.
It is very unusual to have Cork and KK on record or almost record droughts and Tipp rebuilding
So fat this decade they have no all Irelands.

Tipp happy to be going in at the break only 7 down, whatever hurling has been done by Clare so far.

Bonnar Maher is lots of things but a full forward isn't one of them, he needs to be further out the field winning dirty ball and driving forward with it.

Clare fouling giving Tipp a lifeline

Tipp are way off so far.
Kiely was interviewed on Radio 1. He said they lacked energy, cohesion and intensity and that it was one of the worst performances in his 8 years.

johnnycool · March 24, 2024, 05:04:02 PM

Tipp have decided to turn up, game on

seafoid · March 24, 2024, 05:27:01 PM

Game off. Tipp not accurate enough.

seafoid · March 24, 2024, 05:34:38 PM

19 wides. 10 frees sent wide.

johnnycool · March 25, 2024, 09:02:34 AM

Quote from: seafoid on March 24, 2024, 05:34:38 PM19 wides. 10 frees sent wide.

Clare went up the gears when needed but in general the standard of hurling was poor over the weekend and whilst it may not have looked like it the Down lads say there was quite a lot of sand on the pitch in Portlaoise which probably contributed to the bunching, inability to rise the ball first time etc etc which ensured the game didn't really have any pace to it.

Tipp will be concerned, unsure of the spine of their team, does Maher come out to 6, who goes back in to 3, centre forward is probably where they should be playing Bonnar Maher IMO but they to find a balance in there and lads who can get the most out of Forde and Morris who need the ball in early and in space to cause defences problems.

Clare content that they've a panel now going into championship but Kelly and O'Donnell need game time and surely the final is the place to get them some. Even Ryan Taylor and David McInerney haven't featured to date and are allegedly back to full fitness.
One concern for Clare is that they don't think John Conlan has 70 minutes in him and a stand in centre back isn't Seadna Morey in all fairness. Conlan has played some hurling in the last year with club and county and he isn't getting any younger but he is their talisman and there's more to replacing him than just for his hurling!
David Fitzgerald is a beast of a hurler, size, speed and skill, Clare need him in the game a lot more, but what a weapon.