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Playing crap teams every week in the SPL isn't much preparation for playing semi decent European teams.

This is true.

I'm not a Celtic supporter but I would watch their games regularly enough in the league and in Europe.
When you sides like Copenhagen putting in decent performances in Europe then it shows what clubs like Celtic could be doing. I don't think anyone is suggesting Celtic should be winning the European Cup but at least competing for top 2 in the group would be a start. If you just miss out then fair enough.
What is it Copenhagen are doing that Celtic aren't? Is it the budget/management/quality of opposition at home/poor recruitment/board?

I'm sure some of the more clued in Celtic supporters could give some answers/solutions.

Not sure that Copenhagen are the template Celtic want to aim at. Only marginally better European record than Celtic in last 10 years but that wouldn't be difficult.

What is the story with the ticket feud?? (I think it originated with Rangers trying to get every advantage going when they came back up through the leagues to avoid hiding in those early games?) but it's surely counter productive now in so many ways.

It started when Celtic began to beat them regularly at Ibrox.

Glenravel promoted from Div 2

Long time in the wilderness.

Thanks for posting, Jim.

As apples said it wasn't him leaving, it was what he said, especially in the last two weeks, that has riled a lot of supporters.
Celtic supporters knew this was likely to happen but most thought maybe in a year or two. I don't begrudge him taking the opportunity and in the end it all happened very swiftly. Up until April Ange may not have thought his chance would have come so soon but he had to take it when it presented. What we have experienced in the past 2 years has been brilliant.

It is a joke of a league though in fairness

I get it - they can only beat what's in front of them . But apart from die hards and actual Scottish fans who watches the Scottish league from week to week? It's awful.

I stand by the point that I think Celtic and rangers would probably get relegated from the English championship after a season.

It's a shame because some big players did become drawn to Celtic / rangers over the years but that seems to have waned now.

You obviously dont watch much of Scottish or English Championship football!

You obviously don't have a clue either

Deluded bhoy army

You opined that Celtic would be relegated from the Championship if they played there. No way of proving that as Celtic do not play Championship teams competitively. Have played them in friendlies and beaten most but that counts for nothing. My belief that you are wrong is down to our games against certain teams in Europe who would be a level above English championship.

[I can't see why anybody pays them any notice]

The standard in the English championship is significantly above the SPL.

Celtic can only beat the teams in front of them. But would the bottom half of the SPL survive a season in the English championship? And if relegated from it would they bounce back?

Celtic isn't the problem. It's Scottish football that's the problem.

The bit that baffles me is those that say Celtic or Rangers are a big as large English sides and would thrive in England if only they had access to the money. Whilst I can see the appeal of that argument it fails to address the point that Celtic/Rangers are not in the EPL, they don't have access to the money and therefore the players and don't play against the quality of opposition. The product people are watching is not the team that Celtic/Rangers could be or the contests they could be involved in in some theoretical future. It's the Celtic/Rangers of today. Mediocre players in mediocre teams battering utterly useless teams.

But yes. If run well and granted access to the EPL Celtic or Rangers could ride high like Newcastle or if run badly could be a Leeds. But they are stuck where they are and I can't see why anybody pays them any notice. It's not as if there isn't a better quality product available just as easily.

really?

Well not any football reason why they would pay them any notice

You are commenting on something you obviously dont know much about. Every home game you will have several thousand supporters from outside Scotland going to see Celtic.

It is a joke of a league though in fairness

I get it - they can only beat what's in front of them . But apart from die hards and actual Scottish fans who watches the Scottish league from week to week? It's awful.

I stand by the point that I think Celtic and rangers would probably get relegated from the English championship after a season.

It's a shame because some big players did become drawn to Celtic / rangers over the years but that seems to have waned now.

You obviously dont watch much of Scottish or English Championship football!

If they got into the english leagues then I think over time they might be close to winning the premier league given a wee bit of time. The problem is now they can't compete financially due to the TV money. The european money helps massively but is not always guaranteed.

Not a chance unless it was Arab money they were getting.

What has other teams in the premier league have over Celtic? (obviously excluding the monetary advantage)

Celtic are as big as any of them. But look at the likes of Man City! Pure shite and then the Arab money has turned them into a machine.

Celtic are as a big a club as Man utd and Liverpool?  Both tradition in Europe and followed globally.  There is generally no interest in Celtic outside Scotland and Ireland.  They haven't been competitive in europe in a long time either.

Celtic are well represented globally. Your statement is opinion not fact regarding interest in Celtic. Blinkered opinion at best. Obviously not as much as some of the English clubs due to the exposure of their league.

23rd September 2018 - Rangers concede a penalty against St Johnstone in a 5-1 win.

4 years and 143 days later, they conceded their first penalty since against Partick Thistle.

Domestically!
Europe's a different matter.

"Lizzies in a box "

Hearts fans sure got the blood boiling at rangers today

Dundee United. Hearts fans would tend be of a similar persuasion to the Gers.

Except there was plenty of FTQs and booing at their match on Thursday.

The Queen dying on Scottish soil will be some boost for the Unionist cause. If Nicola went asking about another Referendum now she'd get one no bother - because she'd lose.

It won't make a difference longer term, in fact probably the opposite. Chuck has nowhere near the same hold on people. The union will die with Brenda.

A bit of an anti climax in the end but a great nights experience all the same. Ground was rocking...Dunno what it looked like or sounded like from the TV but being there was great. I think we put a lot of effort into the first half and seemed to tire as soon as first goal went it, it was like it zapped their legs from energy. Real are a class outfit and as some of you have already said they'll be hard to beat, we had McGregor's post and Maeda chance at start of second half which in games like this you will get 3-4 chances a game and you have to take 50% of them to stand a chance and we didn't.

Was talking to Chris Sutton this morning at 5:30am in Glasgow Airport (a wee Starbucks together), we had a good chat about the game and kinda had the same remarks as everyone else. He said you get away with your odd mistake in Scotland but not against these guys, they punish you and are ruthless. We don't need a pundit to tell us all that we know that.

BT Sport turned the sound down. The commentator at one point said the noise had been defeaning all night (paraphrasing) but it didn't sound as good as it actually was going by YouTube clips and comments from others there.
Real Madrid are a classy, experienced team. They have bags of nous at the back and two of the world's best midfielders in Kroos and Modric and Valverde was something else last night. Yet we ran them close for a good while. I think some players were a bit overawed. Abada had 2 good chances, Maeda should have scored and McGregor was very unlucky. Some of our passing and breaking their lines was fantastic. What did us was their passing. We aren't used to having to chase so much and play without the ball, definitely more demanding. It's what we do to Scottish teams. All in all, they were too good. But I'd rather see last night's display than changing style completely and packing our penalty area.

Has anyone apart from yourself made a comment about things like that on this thread?

And your logic is?

The logic is that you claim to be providing and alternative view. What I'm asking you is what alternative view are you providing given that nobody else apart from yourself is commenting on the issues you're posting about. Have you seen anyone here, apart from yourself, express an opinion on the Green Brigade's displays?

It's ok they probably my favourite British team too, if I had to pick one

Favourite British team? Is that an attempt at a dig. No one in their right mind would bring that up. It's a fact as much as Celtic are a Scottish team or a Glaswegian team or a European team. If you know your history,  first Scottish team, first British team and first non-Latin team to win the European cup.
You are a sanctimonious arse.

Football supporters the world over are political. In a lot of cases it's what brings them together.
Better that than being a faceless corporate entity like PSG or Man City have become.
I can assure you plenty of Palestinians thank the Celtic supporters for keeping their cause front and centre.