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Title: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 10, 2006, 01:47:12 PM
Just thought id start one on the new board   ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 12, 2006, 05:18:09 PM
Crossmaglen beat Mullahoran by 2-13 to 1-07 today, Disappointing... not sure how Drumalee got on?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 13, 2006, 01:28:23 PM
Just carrying on from the old board where AC39 was having another go at Keogan for bringing John McGinn on board as team co-ordinater.  Behind the times you are AC39(as you suggested yourself) as Eamon Coleman appointed Mickey Reilly as team 'liaison officer' 3 years ago when he took over.  Don't know if he continued this role in McElklennons time though. 

McGinn imo is an excellent administrator and will do a good job.  Keogans responsibility is to create a successful Cavan team and issues such as players expenses etc shouldn't be taking up his time. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 13, 2006, 02:04:54 PM
Yeah the Mullahoors didn't stand up to Cross like I thought they would. Sad reflection on Cavan club football etc. etc. we say the same every year!

Hope Drumalee did well anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 13, 2006, 03:51:30 PM
heard drumalee were beat by four points.  dissapointed by mullahorn i though they would have put up a better fight but i suppose the early goal didn't help.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 16, 2006, 01:59:47 PM
Fixtures for this weekend and the next few weekends aswell...Just to bump up this thread.

Saturday 18th November.



T.P.Smith.

A.C.F.L. Division 1

Final.



Ballinagh v Gowna

in Cornafean at 2.30 p.m.

Referee : Packie Smith.

Linesmen : Brendan Sweeney,Martin Sexton.



Hotel Kilmore.

Under 21 Division 1.

Championship(Semi-Final)



Lurgan v Castlerahan

in Kingscourt at 2 p.m.

Referee : Donal Reilly.

(Extra time if necessary)



Hotel Kilmore.

Under 21 Division 2.

Championship (Semi-Final)



Drumalee v Ballyhaise

in Lavey at 2 p.m.

Referee : Padraig Kelleher.

(Extra time if necessary)



Sunday 19th November.



Lakeside Manor Hotel.

A.C.F.L. Division 3.

Semi-Final (Replay)



Cornafean v Killeshandra

in Templeport at 2 p.m.

Referee : Joe McQuillan.

Linesmen : Jim Hyland,James Clarke.

(Extra time if necessary)



Hotel Kilmore.

Under 21 Division 2.

Semi-Final.



Lavey v Shercock

in Virginia at 2 p.m.

Referee : Robbie McDermott.

(Extra time if necessary)



Sunday 26th November.



Hotel Kilmore.

Under 21 Division 1

Championship Semi-Final .



Parnells v Killygarry

in Templeport at 2 p.m.

Referee : M.G.Brady.

(Extra time if necessary)



Hotel Kilmore.

Under 21 Division 2.

Championship Final.



Drumalee or Ballyhaise

V

Lavey or Shercock



Sunday 3rd December.



Hotel Kilmore.

Under 21 Division 1.

Championship Final



Lurgan or Castlerahan

V

Parnells or Killygarry



Lakeside Manor Hotel.

A.C.F.L. Division 3.

Final.



Cavan Gaels v Cornafean or Killeshandra



Suspensions.



Dean Connolly Cootehill.

rest of game effective 07/10/06.

Fiachra Cork Castlerahan.

4 weeks plus next game in competition

effective from 29/10/06.

Donal Thomas Killygarry.

4 weeks plus next game in competition

effective from 28/10/06.

Sean McCormick Ballyhaise

rest of game effective 04/11/06.





Thomas Cooney Bailieborough

4 weeks plus next game in competition

effective from 04/11/06.

Fergal Slowey Ballyhaise.

rest of game effective 28/10/06.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 17, 2006, 02:03:07 PM
Anyone any news on how county training is going?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on November 17, 2006, 02:07:16 PM

Any idea when the senior team will be playing their first match under Keoghan? ???
Are there any challenge match's we could review progress at?
All this talk about Gallagher... I guess it gives us options at least. He can be shown the road if he starts giving trouble. Who'd want him after that anyway... so I think its up to him to behave.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 17, 2006, 02:39:54 PM
Cavan Cola, there's a blast from the past!! Those of a certain vintage will remember it's bottled stout-like consistency and blackness, pleasing moustache left on the lips after a swig, and also the near-scrape they could have had with chronic ill-health if the EU hadn't banned it for having too much sugar and God knows what else in it.

At least that's what I heard had happened anyway. Anyone else remember it? ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 17, 2006, 02:42:43 PM
yeah it was some stuff.  are u serious about it being banned 4 having 2 mcuh sugar?  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on November 17, 2006, 03:05:25 PM
Cavan Cola would put hairs on your chest. Does its 80’s demise coincide with the deterioration in Cavan’s football fortunes? Maybe Donal K should consider restocking the Cavan panels training sessions with the black stuff instead of these fancy multicoloured energy drinks that are only drank by a shower of rugby and soccer ponces anyway. 

Anyway I'm sure Donal has already thought this one threw as he looks like a fella who drank gallons of the stuff when he was a young fella. Anyone know anything about challenge matchs for Cavan Seniors? Thanks!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 17, 2006, 03:21:17 PM
Heard nothing abiut challenge matches cavancola, alls I know is that there's a panel of about 40 in training on the weights with Keogan when he's not off hunting in Fermanagh.

cavan4ever, that's how the legend goes...apparently Brussels was aghast when it was appointed supreme guardian of the small intestines of our fair nation, and probed a bottle of our fine beverage to see how it stacked up in the health and safety stakes. It turned out to have more Es than a rave in Amsterdam and if taken in sufficient quantity, most likely produced the same effect.

Sad was its passing. I was weaned on that stuff. Mothers of hyperactive Cavan children heaved a sigh of relief when it disappeared from the shelves and little Johnny was belatedly and reluctantly peeled off the sitting room chandelier in something approaching a mood of calm. Sigh, different era, great times... ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 17, 2006, 03:28:28 PM
Cavan Cola never did us any harm. If the youth of today had of been brought up on it there mightn't be as much drugs and teenage pregnancy's in our once great county ;)



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on November 17, 2006, 05:04:19 PM
Ah!! Cavan Cola the nectar of the Gods.As maniac says different era .....great times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 17, 2006, 06:33:27 PM
I know a publican that keeps a vintage bottle of Cavan Cola under the counter beside the potcheen for special occassions. This same publican told me he seen Eddie Reilly swiging out of a bottle of it one night - Good job Brussels put an end to it or we'd have a bunch of wild long hair mad men running around the county. Eddie is a lesson to us all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 17, 2006, 09:18:12 PM
Just carrying on from the old board where AC39 was having another go at Keogan for bringing John McGinn on board as team co-ordinater.  Behind the times you are AC39(as you suggested yourself) as Eamon Coleman appointed Mickey Reilly as team 'liaison officer' 3 years ago when he took over.  Don't know if he continued this role in McElklennons time though. 

McGinn imo is an excellent administrator and will do a good job.  Keogans responsibility is to create a successful Cavan team and issues such as players expenses etc shouldn't be taking up his time.


Friday night and we should all be in a relaxed mood but I'll make an exception for the above pile...............wasn't having a go at Keogan, although so many people have been I don't blame you for getting confused. I was having a go at the County Board for going from an cart before horse management team to a managment by committee system (all care, no responsibility, loads of expense). Of other recent inter county appointments did we get the full monty of backup disclosed-in Wickla who is Micko's trainer, driver, personal fitness guru, selectors and petty cash clerk? I don't know, nobody on this board knows and most of the people in Wickla neither know nor care, wonder why. I agree with you that this bloke will be doing work that Keogan should not be doing. Can you tell me why the hell it is necessary to announce on national media with a bit of fanfare who the identity of our new petty cash clerk is?

So don't worry folks, we are in safe hands-ranked 26th in Ireland, all club champions fucked out of Ulster round one but look, our new clerical appointment to make sure the players expenses get paid. The only way is up. Seriously though, best of luck to Donal and his team of advisers, gurus, and indeed players


On much happier topics, Cavan Cola-welcome on board, I can only echo the sentiments of all posters to date. The most unique combination of bottled Guinness laced generously with highly concentrated cough mixture. I reckon the dentists of Cavan were coining it on many a youngster reared on a staple diet of Cavan Cola and liqurice allsorts. I agree that the decline in all social, moral and physiological standards that have been noted over the past 20 years can be traced back to the demise of Cavan Cola. Most importantly, I believe that the sad decline of our inter county team is directly linked to it's disappearance. Try telling any young fella under the age of 21 that there was a time when Cavan football was comprised of something other than a bunch of skittery arsed runts with short hair. Mad eddie would have been in his element back in the early 70's with Enda Mcgowan, Pat Tinnelly, Frankie Dolan, Texas Brady, Sean Leddy (RIP) and Pat Mcgill (ouch). Christ it makes the eyes water, all reared on the stuff and would eat Gaynors entrails on the 11 O clock break.

Great memories indeed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 19, 2006, 11:41:09 PM
Ok AC39, I felt you were having another unwarranted attack on Keogan,(at least wait until the matches start).  You are correct this appointment didn't need any media attention.

Also welcome to CavanCola.  Used to love the stuff.  Never knew that Brussels banned it.  Just thought it stopped when CMW closed their own production.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 20, 2006, 11:32:25 AM
The Brussels rumour was the one I heard anyway. But sure maybe it just went out of production. But the nasty bureaucrats story is much more poignant so I'm sticking with that one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 20, 2006, 02:55:00 PM
Ballinagh beat Gowna in the ACFL Division 1 final 2-08 to 0-08 in a bit of a suprise...
Castlerahan beat Lurgan in a thriller in the Under 21 Division One semi final 3-09 to 2-10
Drumalee beat ourselves 3-08 to 0-13 in a thriller After Extra Time in the Div Two Semi...That hurts big time  :'(
Shercock beat Lavey in the other Div Two semi final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on November 20, 2006, 03:09:54 PM

BH Man, very interesting that the U21 games over the weekend were of a high standard.
Could be that there is more talent right under Keoghan's nose than he thinks... maybe he's wasting his time building up a team of high Profile short-term stars when he is sitting on a wealth of uptapped talent already and U21 level. I saw alot of half that Lurgan team playing over the summer. There are at leat 2/3 of that team that should be given a go with the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 20, 2006, 03:29:09 PM
The Lurgan and Castlerahan Under 21 teams are both supremely talented alright CavanCola and i would consider ourselves and Drumalee to be something similar albeit probably not just as good....Its too soon for alot of them to be thrown into County Senior action though...I think we will just ahve to stick with out "stars" for a year or two yet...and phase in the young lads slowly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on November 20, 2006, 04:04:35 PM
Immmm take your point BH man but then if you look at say the meath team of 1996...they had Mark O'Reilly, Darren Fay, Paddy Reynolds, Graham Geraghty, Barry Callaghan, Trevor Giles, Ollie Murphy... All were on the All Ireland winning team that year and would have been on the team that Cavan U21's beat after a replay in Roscommon in 1996... if I remember right! So there is arguments for putting these guys in and blooding them young and mix them with the best of the experienced generation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on November 20, 2006, 05:24:17 PM
Cavan tried to intergrate the U 21's of 88 into the senior panel,and what happened,it took another 7 years to win an ulster championship match.Likewise the U21's of 96 granted the won the Ulster Championship in 97 but that was it.20 years on after having two teams in the U21 all Ireland finals and where are we,1 Ulster Title,surely there was potential in both these sets of players to do much better?Were they blodded too young,maybe maye not there egos just might have being the problem.

Back to the weekend games, how many of the top U21's playing at the weekend are eligible to play for the county U21's next year?Went to the Bhaise D'lee game and although it was a pretty good game , the only player to really stand out was Ray Cullivan.He was still a minor this year but has played a lot of football including a run out with the county seniors, where will he be in 5-6 years time? burnt out ? riddle with injuries? hope not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 20, 2006, 05:35:17 PM
It makes no sense having the Under 21 competition in November...It should be played bfore the Under 21 county team play so as to throw up a few players...but thats another story....
Rossi...
Ray Cullivan has played a lot of football..... club,County,Sigerson with the college now and International rules,But if theres one young player thats physically able to handle it all..It is Cullivan......
If you look at some of the great young hopes we had...
John Tierney...didnt look after himself physically
Cian Mackey...physically very light and needed to be bulked up
Ronan Flanagan....same as Mackey
I think Cullivan much like Nicholas Walsh has done has a better chance of avoiding burnout because of his physical conditioning
 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 20, 2006, 05:38:39 PM
also Rossi
Some players at the game who will be in contention for the County under 21's next year include...
for Bhaise...
Sean McCormack who done a man marking job on Darragh Gaffney
Fergal Slowey
Ray Cullivan
and Ali Pickett
for Drumalee
Enda McCormick
I do believe Gerard Reily is underage aswell
Darragh Gaffney
amongst others...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 20, 2006, 05:56:30 PM
Our U21 team for next year has an outstanding chance in Ulster if they can deal with Down I think, although alot of other teams will be strong as well I'd say, Fermanagh's Enniskillen college always do quite well in McRory for instance. U21 is where I'm really pinning my hopes for 2007.

It's absolutely vital that this U21 team is prepared to the absolute highest standard to make sure the near misses and moral victories of previous years don't perpetuate themselves for eternity - we might never have as talented a collection of U21s in the county again. Combine Keogan's minors with last year's U18 outfit, add in a few lads who always blossom after minor and it could be an oustanding team. I just hope bad management, bad preparation or just sheer bad luck doesn't put paid to our chances, it could either set up the seniors for years or alternatively, set them back an age.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 20, 2006, 08:11:32 PM
Always thought myself that Under 21 was a potential area for us, a small number of the nordie production line from Minor level seem to get lost along the way. Big problem is that Ulster is, as ever, seriously bloody competitive at the moment. Now I know Maniac is very impressed by the Minor team of last year-but look at what you have in Ulster coming through from that year alone. Down are All Ireland Champs. As I recall in the Ulster Championship minor of last year they ambushed Tyrone in injury time in the first round, beat us after a replay and lost to Armagh in an Ulster Final in Croker. As is typical with that minor team of ours it was a case of blood em young-can think of at least two under 16's who were mainstays of that team, one of whom is now doing the business with Celtic, the other being Barry Waters if I'm not mistaken.

In short, if we are to be competitive at Under 21 level next year I reckon we need:
Solid core of lads (at least 10) who are at their last year at under 21 level; and
The age old Cavan problem (well one of them anyway) four or five lads who can mix strength, aggression and football ability-seems ot be a tall order-young Clark from Kingscourt could be one of them if he is available.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 21, 2006, 11:50:56 AM
He picked up a significant thug element when he was in Australia in my humble opinion.

I remember being gutted when he went to Oz such was the reputation he had garnered for himself and the corresponding hopes we had for him being a top class partner for a then still-dangerous Dermot McCabe in midfield.

I watched him play underage for the Gaels and he was incredibly classy. Never had much pace and is even slower now  but seemed to have the intelligence for this not to matter - good positional sense and an ability to do things in a measured, methodical way - almost casual but not quite - were what set him apart. He had a good catch, physical strength and a nice accurate kick pass.

Then he got a litany of injuries in Oz and since he's come back only seems to want to spoil and niggle. I think the Aussie hard man culture got to him and now he seems to go looking for fights/intimidation. It's a shame because he's still young enough to make an impact with his strength and if he could channel the aggression more legitimately he could be good for us. I saw him kick about three or four massive points for the Gaels against Castlerahan all from play in this year's SFC and thought to myself what a shame it is he never seems able to do that for the county.

As for the U21s, keep the faith anglocelt39! It's hard to be positive but it's too easy to be negative and fear the worst all the time. This mindset hasn't helped the players in recent years either. We all have to start believing in ourselves at some point or else throw the hat at it to hell and give up. I think we have every bit as good a footballer at this age group for 2007 as any other Ulster county, fact. Down couldn't believe they beat that minor team a few years ago (told our lads as much leaving the field) and that was the toughest game they got all year (apart from the loss to Armagh which was basically a blip against a vastly inferior side).
As on that day, and lamentably, too too many days in the last five years, our county underage sides have been beaten for the lack of something fundamental between their two ears and not necessarily something lacking in their boots.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 21, 2006, 10:16:38 PM
Oh sigh, here I go again Maniac. I know we both have the interests of Cavan football at heart. You reckon I'm too negative and yoiu are probably right, I reckon you are too optimistic and I am wrong, but we need to be realistic. For all the talking up we have done on our underage sides over the last several years the fact is we have won nothing, nor have we come near to winning anything. Now this reflects a lack of belief and some bad luck, unfortunately it also reflects something more fundamental at work-player development, club scene, backup facilities etc. etc. In short we ain't good enough and have  not been for several years. We congratulate ourselves on getting our set up to the level that other Ulster Counties were at four or five years ago and still there is no give-if we want to change this setup we have to start to admit that we need fundamental change and act accordingly-convince ourselves that it's all down to bad luck and belief and we go further backwards.

Anyway here's hoping. Like the first cuckoo of spring I am waiting in anticipation of the first pronouncement that next years minors are the ones to break the drought. We are nothing if not optimistic.

On a separate topic-as somebody with strong Aussie connections I read with interest the comments on the compromise rules debacle. Interesting that the weekend past had it's usual session of shenanigans in the GAA covering Casement and Wicklow (or was it Carlow), hear the Drumalee and Ballyhaise lads got into the spirit of things as well. As they RTE presenter said monday monring "and not an Australian in sight"-how dare that bastard Sheedy call us a bunch of con men
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 22, 2006, 12:43:16 PM
Yeah it's hypocrisy alright but it still doesn't mean we started it off in that second test. The Aussies had a premeditated agenda of violence, everyone knew it, they announced it in the paper even, our lads were determined to fight back if it happened - cue Armageddon. Sheedy calling us conmen while sniggering up his shirt sleeves and spinning his risible approach to the game by pinning the blame on us, that's the real disgrace.

If the debate is about IR violence there's only one to blame...Aussies.

If it's about violence in our native codes and poor attempts to clean it up, the AFL game is way ahead of ours.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on November 22, 2006, 01:54:46 PM
Ah lads give it up on the violence and the International Rules!

Any word on new fellas into the Cavan panel? I hear Larry and McCabe are still there, Corr from Denn is in too. Martin Reily and Donal Thomas from Killygaryy. Seanie Smith from Mulahoran. Shane Sheridan from Lacken. Any others?

They're training in Navan tonight apparently.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 22, 2006, 03:43:45 PM
I've heard nothing save for Gallagher turning up and running rings round the lot of them. Most of the old heads are back in supplemented by a gang of new lads. I think there's a McCabe lad from Crosserlough in there, a former minor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 22, 2006, 07:19:23 PM
Declan McCabe from crosserlough was shaping well in the McKenna cup earlier this year,then seemed to vanish.   :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 24, 2006, 03:23:18 PM
The 2007 league fixtures are being finalised this weekend.  As its year 2 of a 2 year cycle we will have 3 home and 4 away games this coming year.

Away games v Waterford, Antrim, Tipperary & either Meath/Wexford.
Home games v Sligo, Wicklow & either Meath/Wexford.

I hope we get Meath at home, play it on a Sat. night under the lights.

2007 McKenna Cup games courtesy on hoganstand

Jan 7th away to Derry
Jan 14th home to Queens
Jan 21st home to Tyrone



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 24, 2006, 03:28:22 PM
Away trips to waterford,Antrim and Tipperary... f**k...
indeed Wexford and Meath will be our two biggest challengers for promotion id say.
Meath game under floodlights at home would have a great atmosphere as you said Blue06....
knowing our luck though we will get Meath in Navan again though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 24, 2006, 03:47:56 PM
Don't overlook the value of securing Wicklow at home. They'll have come up a long way by then under Micko and will be seriously in the mix in this division, especially in the very early rounds of the league when bigger teams are getting warmed up. They'll be flying fit and rearing to go from the off. With things as bad as they are with us, you wouldn't be surprised if they turned us over. Although hopefully I'm being pessimistic on the side of caution there... ;)

Also, it'll be a serious grudge match away to our great rivals Waterford. :-[

Meath at home under lights would be sweet. Played them four/five times in league in my living memory, all but one of them has been in Navan so it's about time we got them back in Breffni.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 27, 2006, 03:47:12 PM
Just though id bring this back up to the top it was getting lonely on the 3rd page.  Has anyone any news on how the  county team is going in training???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 27, 2006, 09:20:39 PM
Away trips to waterford,Antrim and Tipperary... f**k...
indeed Wexford and Meath will be our two biggest challengers for promotion id say.
Meath game under floodlights at home would have a great atmosphere as you said Blue06....
knowing our luck though we will get Meath in Navan again though


Hope your optimism is justified Ballyhaise Man. Antrim, Tipperary, Wexford, Meath and Wicla for starters won't be too worried about us. As for Waterford, I for one will be keeping the head well down in advance of that one. Hopefully you can rely on me for a report or two from some of the more remote southern outposts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 27, 2006, 10:47:35 PM
I think we played Meath at home twice in the league in the last 5/6 years. I remember we beat them by one point cos someone threw a bottle at Sean Boylan that day. I also remember Prior from Swad blatently flattening Geraghty in front of the posts and the ref playing on in the last minute. We also hammered them by 10 points or so as well, I remember Mark Reilly getting sent off that day. Was that the year we made the league final??

I hope the league will be taken serious this year as in reality my only goal at senior level this year is to get promotion back to Div 1. A bonus would be beating Down and then putting Monaghan back in their box in the championship.

I was wondering if anyone knows, if we beat Down, where will the game against Monaghan be?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 28, 2006, 07:32:19 AM
I was wondering if anyone knows, if we beat Down, where will the game against Monaghan be?

Not wanting to get ahead of ourselves but if we got through we would play Monaghan in Clones.
If Down beat us they'd have home advantage against Monaghan.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 28, 2006, 02:00:56 PM
Allianz National Football League Div 2B
Round 1
03.02.2007 (Sat) @ 7.30pm

An Mhí v An Cabhán
04.02.2007 (Sun) @ 2.30pm
Cill Mhantáin v Aontroim
Tiobraid Árann v Sligeach
Port Láirge v Loch Garman

Round 2
10.02.2007 (Sat)   @ 7.30pm

Aontroim v An Mhí
An Cabhán  v Cill Mhantáin
11.02.2007 (Sun)  @ 1.30pm
Loch Garman v Tiobraid Árann
Sligeach v Port Láirge
 
 
Round 3
25.02.2007 (Sun)  @ 2.30pm

Port Láirge v Aontroim
Tiobraid Árann v An Cabhán
Sligeach v An Mhí
Cill Mhantáin v Loch Garman
 
Round 4
10.03.2007 (Sat)   @ 7.30pm

An Cabhán  v Sligeach
An Mhí v Tiobraid Árann
11.03.2007 (Sun)  @ 2.30pm
Aontroim v Loch Garman
Port Láirge v Cill Mhantáin
 
Round 5
24.03.2007 (Sat)   @ 3.30pm

Aontroim v An Cabhán
25.03.2007 (Sun)  @ 3.30pm
Cill Mhantáin v An Mhí
Loch Garman v Sligeach
Tiobraid Árann v Port Láirge
 
Round 6
31.03.2007 @ 7.30pm

An Mhí v Port Láirge
01.04.2007 @ 3.30pm
Sligeach v Aontroim
An Cabhán  v Loch Garman
Tiobraid Árann v Cill Mhantáin
 
Round 7
08.04.2007 @ 3.30pm

Port Láirge v An Cabhán
Loch Garman v An Mhí
Cill Mhantáin v Sligeach
Aontroim v Tiobraid Árann


Well we have ended up with 4 Saturday & 3 Sunday games.

3 under lights, 2 at home and 1 away to Meath.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 28, 2006, 02:56:14 PM
Having to travel to Meath - again - is disappointing but overallw e can be happy that we've got the other strong teams in the division all at home - Wexford, Sligo and what should be a plucky enough Wicklow.

Away to Tipp, Antrim and Waterford but if we're in any sort of shape at all, should be too difficult although Antrim might be interesting this year too.

Meath away to Sligo, Wexford, so it could be worse for us. Will be an intersting league with the placings dictating who ends up in the Timmy Morphine Cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 29, 2006, 01:06:17 PM
I hear Pearse McKenna is back on the Cavan panel, can anyone confirm? Encouraging news if so, he's no Jack O'Shea but has proven himself a very valuable and hard working memeber of the team in an area where we are always short on quality. Happy to have him back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 29, 2006, 01:14:41 PM

courtesy of Hoganstand

Reilly quits Cavan
29 November 2006


New Cavan manager Donal Keoghan must plan without the services of Peter Reilly in the coming season after the Knockbride clubman announced his retirement from the inter-county game.

Reilly, who won an Ulster championship medal in 1997, retired before, only to answer an SOS call last season after the squad was depleted by injury.

Encouragingly for Keoghan, all of the Breffni County’s long-term absentees have returned to the fold, while midfielder Pierce McKenna – who opted out last year – is also back in harness.

Gerald Pierson (cruciate), Micheal Lyng (hernia), Nicholas Walsh (ankle) and Darren Rabbit (cruciate) are all back in training.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on November 29, 2006, 02:09:58 PM
Also from Hogan Stand


Cavan football star Micheal Lyng has spoken of his near-death experience following a routine hernia operation last year.

Lyng had surgery to have a double hernia rectified, but after being released from hospital, he began to feel unwell and had to be rushed back in for emergency surgery which he claims saved his life.

“I was close to dying when I was in hospital – they reckon I was about a day away if they hadn’t operated,” the 21-year-old revealed.

“I came home after the hernia operation and started getting sick the day after – there was complications.

“Football wasn’t that important when I was sick. I lost about two stone in weight. I was knocked for six – I didn’t go back to college that year.

“I didn’t train or do anything for about five months because I had 20 stitches down the middle of my stomach and that took ages to heal. I was scared to go back at the beginning but now I can’t wait to get back in action,” he added.

The Cavan Gaels attacker hopes to make his comeback with DIT in the Sigerson Cup in the New Year.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 29, 2006, 03:28:03 PM
Mckenna is back that's strange considering me played no more than 3-4 club games last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 29, 2006, 06:04:48 PM
Good stuff to have McKenna back in there....
The story on Lyng nearly dying was around the county months ago...It was pretty serious alright.
I wonder what are the odds of us making the first round of the championship with all of the following...
McCabe
Larry
Pierson
Rabbite
Lyng
Walshe
all fit?
i cant remember the last time we have eneterd the championship with a fully fit squad...
Oh wait i can... 1997   ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: liihb on November 29, 2006, 06:10:44 PM
Whats the latest on the Gallagher saga? Has his transfer gone through?
Just wondering due to the repercussions for Brigids...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 29, 2006, 06:22:22 PM
havent heard anything about the Gallagher situation to be honest mate..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 29, 2006, 09:58:18 PM
Greetings from your resident realist/cum pessimist. Well nothing like a few months of inaction to get our optimism up and running again. Promotion prospects are being discussed and the prosprect of beating Down in Prelim round of championship. Hope to f**k we are right. Just by way of reminder-last year in the league we beat Wicklow and Antrim by a pt(Tipp as well??), lost to Sligo and, ahem, Waterfordl, well beaten by Louth as well. We'll need to do a fair bit of improving to be in the promotion race this time around.

Best wishes to Peter Reilly and good to see McKenna back. We seemed to be all agreed a few months ago that the boys of 97 (with exception of Forde) had had their day, looks like a few are still hanging around...............Interesting to see how Mckenna and McCabe get on, I've made my views known before on this and will leave it at that. Hope to god there are one or two breakthroughs from fellas on the fringes.

In my opinion, young Flanagan has to be ready now-Sigerson Cup medal from last year. Ditto Sean Brady who is holding down a fair spot with a good UCD team. Hope to jasus Keogan is now laying siege to Trevor Crowe's door.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 29, 2006, 10:55:06 PM
If I was Keogan, I'd camp outside his door and haunt the guy until he gives in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on November 30, 2006, 11:31:32 AM
I'm sorry to say lads there's more chance of Keoghan himself lining out than there is of Crowe going back in...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on November 30, 2006, 12:14:55 PM
See some dudes on the Hogan Stand proposing possible teams. They may know something ???.. it seems like Mccabe is being put in Fullforward. Is Keoghan thinking of making McCabe into a "Donaghy" style target man perhaps? Anyway he was always very effective when used in this position before. Good to see Mckenna back. We could have done with him earlier in the year.

The only thing I'd be worried about is that we may be recycling alot of what we've seen already and there is no longterm plan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 30, 2006, 03:12:40 PM
anglocelt39 - We didn't lose to Sligo last year, we beat them farily well in Sligo. The league last year was a tough battle for us since we had so many players out and after doing all the hard bits (beating Sligo and Westmeath away) we took our eye of the ball through some classic over confidence and blew it all against Waterford. It is also worth remembering that we lost to Louth in a game we should have won by 6 points or so too. If we had to have beaten waterford we would be all saying that we had a fairly decent run in the league with half a team. There is a fine line between success and failure! I expect a better show this year if we can get some of our players fit and assuming that keoghan isn't as big a clown as most of us reckon. I also believe it is achievable for Cavan to beat Down in Breffni and Beat Monaghan in Clones if we prepare properly. If we don't believe that then we might as well not bother playing them. For me our goals for the year at senior level should be a semi final place in Ulster and promotion to Div 1 in league.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 30, 2006, 03:40:44 PM
I agree with them goals Myles...
i would also add in win at least one qualifier aswell.... to come out of the season with more wins 3 than defeats 2 in the championship would be a success for me as well as promotion to Division One B.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 30, 2006, 03:45:35 PM
Along with at least reaching an Ulster U21 final and giving it a right rattle, I'm with mylestheslasher. If you hang-doggedly accept that your fate is to achieve nothing then that's exactly what you'll achieve. I know what anglocelt39 will think of that but sure shoot for the stars and land on the moon or whatever, is what I think. ;D

It's an awful shame about Crowe. f**king tank of a man. I think he agreed to join the county panel for a year as part of an agreement to help his club who were in severe disciplinary bother with the county board at the time. That's what was being said anyway, believe what you will.

McCabe's remaining contributions to Cavan will all come at 14 I think, he just doesn't have it around the middle any more unless he finds a new reserve of fitness or something and stays injury free. But we'll have to rob Peter to pay Paul in midfield at various times I'd say and move him back out as we won't have a good enough midfield in big games even with McKenna in there. I also wouldn't overstate McCabe's ability at 14, he destroyed Down there a few years ago and caused Derry a few flutters in Casement a few years previously, but has otherwise been a fairly blunt weapon on the edge of the square. His distribution out the field can be an asset too. Ho hum, swings and roundabouts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 30, 2006, 03:46:38 PM
Myles, agree with you on our expectations for next years championship though I would have an Ulster SF spot as a minimum target.
The league though is changing next year to Div 1-4 .  A top 2 finish this year will  have us in Div 2, places 3-4 in Div 3 and a bottom 4 place means Div 4 and also entry into the Tommy Murphy Cup.  Teams who finish up in Div 4 will not be allowed enter the AI Qualifiers (unless they reach the provincial final).
Therefore I see this years league being fairly competitive and not a great opportunity to experiment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 30, 2006, 03:57:27 PM
Re Crowe, I heard that when he was minor he refused to play for the county, not too sure of the full story, something like he wasn't too happy with a suspension he received from the CB at the time.  Bottom brick appears to have an inside line here, maybe he can clarify it or rubbish it.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on November 30, 2006, 04:05:08 PM
That's the first Ive heard of that.

I know that since around 99 they were plaguing him to come in, Mickey Reilly was constantly calling but Trevor was toof ond of the beer!

He said he'd give it everything for a year, he did and cavan let Armagh off the rack and Derry.

The man gets up at five every morning and just built a house, he's getting married next year, there is zero chance of him going back it's a pity to say
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 30, 2006, 08:18:05 PM
You know Maniac you're dead right, i've just reviewed the situation and don't know why I get this sense of utter fatalistic pessimism that I like to think of as realism in my misguided way. So I've just reviewed the situation and decided that on the basis of our current ranking at number 26 in senior football, our shedload of underage titles over the past several years, the outstanding performances of our clubs in Ulster and our dynamic, far seeing County board that, shag it, anything less than an Ulster Clean sweep at Minor, Under 21 and Senior level next year will be abject failure. And take it from me, the 2007 minors will be the best we've EVER produced, bar none.

Seriously, can we get promotion from Division 2 and win two games in Ulster-with injury luck, application to detail at training and in games-maybe. i would be delighted to achieve those ends after last year. I would be even happier if we won a few games at minor and under 21 level, without the foundations the house is shagged.

The more I read about this lad Crowe the more of a mysterious legend he becomes. One of our fellow posters once insinuated on another thread that he once sorted out a few opposing supporters at a club match for abusing him after a sending off. pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 30, 2006, 08:50:22 PM
Indeed AC
Mr Crowe hopped over the fence and replied to the fans comments with his own form of Justice  :D
Unless you're a mightily hard bastard...Trevor Crowe wouldnt be a man you would want to mess with.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 30, 2006, 11:24:49 PM
You know Maniac you're dead right, i've just reviewed the situation and don't know why I get this sense of utter fatalistic pessimism that I like to think of as realism in my misguided way. So I've just reviewed the situation and decided that on the basis of our current ranking at number 26 in senior football, our shedload of underage titles over the past several years, the outstanding performances of our clubs in Ulster and our dynamic, far seeing County board that, shag it, anything less than an Ulster Clean sweep at Minor, Under 21 and Senior level next year will be abject failure. And take it from me, the 2007 minors will be the best we've EVER produced, bar none.

You say tom-ay-toes, I say tomatoes. I knew you'd bite though... ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 01, 2006, 08:47:06 AM
Maniac, you're out of your time zone man. Yes, it can be a tough job constantly pointing out the elephant in the drawing room to the short sigthed, but sure somebody has to do it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on December 01, 2006, 03:51:53 PM

The more I read about this lad Crowe the more of a mysterious legend he becomes. One of our fellow posters once insinuated on another thread that he once sorted out a few opposing supporters at a club match for abusing him after a sending off. pretty impressive.


Never actually heard of Trevor doing that, but was in Breffni  the day that Finbarr Crowe of Drung ran up to the top of the stand to sort out a few Drumalee lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 01, 2006, 03:54:52 PM
Finbar Crowe
Another tank of a man...and outstanding footballer who never figured much for the County unfortunately...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 01, 2006, 04:04:34 PM
You described yourtself a page back as a pessimist/realist, so you clearly know quite well the fine line between either.

On the realism side of things , I share alot of your misgivings about our county board, current players, manager, history of underachievement, but it's after that where we diverge. Beyond there you seemingly see no reason for hope and vigilante-style smack down anyone who disagrees. It's just too easy to be cynical and wallow in self-fulfilling prophecies my friend, and it's this attitude that part-explains why those same underage teams you get so upset about never fulfilled their potential. When the fat is in the fire, no Cavan team believes in itself enough because we come from a county full of world-weary wise men who always know better and where the culture is "ah we were unlucky." We simply accept what's ingrained in us to think is our fate and cry when we lose by a point to an Ulster team in extra time because we haven't the balls to finish the job ourselves or are too content with the moral victory. One man changed it all temporarily and that was Martin McHugh and look what he was able to do.

It's up to you what your view is on life, football and so on, I can live and live let live with everyone but nothing will shake me from the view that there ARE always reasons to be positive about Cavan football and most fundamentally, if everyone involved simply adopts a grumble-groan woe-is-us approach then we're going to stay mired precisely where we are right now. None of which is to say that if we're all sunny-side-of-the street positive all the time, the opposite results will accrue, but put it this way - which one of the two offers you some hope of self-betterment, and which offers you none at all?

Didn't mean this to ramble on as much but you seem to have a bee in your bonnet over it - I was only slagging you earlier on you know. I have no problem with your view as long as you don't fight me to make me adapt it - I'm not doing that to you after all.

 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The TopKat on December 01, 2006, 06:51:43 PM
Hello, new poster on the board...have been an avid reader for a while and decided to get involved.  Here is what my Cavan team would be for the Down match in May 2007!
1. James Reilly ( I reckon he will make himself available in early 2007)
2. Michael Hannon (great man marker)
3. Darren Rabbitte (potentially brilliant full back, does simple things right)
4. Keith Fannin (tight corner back)
5. Paul Brady (pure athlete)
6. Anthony Forde (let him sit back and sweep up)
7. Anthony Gaynor (big hits and endless running)
8. Pierce McKenna (good fielder)
9. Nicholas Walsh (stop a good man playing)
10. Ronan Flanagan (unbelievable potential, workhorse)
11. Micky Lyng (if fit will  eventually win an all-star)
12. Rory Gallagher (score getter)
13. Geard Pierson (due an injury free run to show his skills)
14. Eddie Reilly (passion and shows for every ball)
15. Sean Johnston (type of forward that every county needs, was good this year will be even better next year)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 01, 2006, 07:40:40 PM
Hello, new poster on the board...have been an avid reader for a while and decided to get involved.  Here is what my Cavan team would be for the Down match in May 2007!
1. James Reilly ( I reckon he will make himself available in early 2007)
2. Michael Hannon (great man marker)
3. Darren Rabbitte (potentially brilliant full back, does simple things right)
4. Keith Fannin (tight corner back)
5. Paul Brady (pure athlete)
6. Anthony Forde (let him sit back and sweep up)
7. Anthony Gaynor (big hits and endless running)
8. Pierce McKenna (good fielder)
9. Nicholas Walsh (stop a good man playing)
10. Ronan Flanagan (unbelievable potential, workhorse)
11. Micky Lyng (if fit will  eventually win an all-star)
12. Rory Gallagher (score getter)
13. Geard Pierson (due an injury free run to show his skills)
14. Eddie Reilly (passion and shows for every ball)
15. Sean Johnston (type of forward that every county needs, was good this year will be even better next year)

Welcome to the board Top Kat...good to have more Cavan Posters on here.
Agree mostly with your team except for possibely Flanagan....whom i think is a brilliant footballer but i
would think Sean Brady or Ray Cullivan might bring a bit more ball winning ability in the half forward line...under Reilys massive kickouts.....
Agree with everywhere else...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 01, 2006, 10:00:08 PM
You say tom-ay-toes, I say tomatoes. I knew you'd bite though...


Bejasus Maniac never thought you'd take that one hook, line and sinker-reminds me of that shagging brother in law of mine who arrived down from Dublin many years ago and used to leave the night line out in the Borora river-feck off for a few hours and guess what you have on the end next morning. I think at this stage we should probably communicate directly and stop giving the rest of this thread a pain in the hole. In fairness we both want the same our optimism levels are all that differ. I could go on but you're tired hearing it. On a serious note for a moment, what do you think of McKenna's return to the panel, given that the bould Dermot is still around. Now if Donal can manage that one I take the hat off.

Also, welcome to our new poster-as I said earlier I reckon Flanagan and Sean Brady have to be ready now, on the basis of college performances if nothing else. Might it be expecting a bit much of Lyng to be back in action next year given what the poor hoor has been through? Hope not but..............
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 12:10:55 PM
County Board Proposals

Task Force Proposals
Task Force Proposals

PROPOSALS FOR ALL COMPETITIONS

U-12 League:
4 Divisions
2 x 10 Teams + 2 x 9 Teams (Seeding of teams to be done by
Bord na nÓg )

U-14 League:
4 Divisions
2 x 10 Teams + 2 x 9 Teams (Seeding of teams to be done by
Bord na nÓg )
All games to take place on full size playing area
U-14 Championship to stay in its present format, but to start a couple of weeks earlier.

U-15
Óg Sport:
7-a-side competition with full participation from all 38 clubs who field underage teams. (Multiple entries will be accepted from clubs). Panel of 10 for each team.

U-16 League:
4 Divisions, more teams to play in Divisions 1 & 2
(Seeding of teams to be done by Youth Board)
Remove 11 a side games if possible

U-16 Championship:
Division 1 U-16 Championship
Division 2 U-16 Championship
Division 3 U-16 Shield (Remove this competition if possible)

Amalgamations to be allowed into U-16 Championship
Amalgamations to be decided at Youth Board Level

Minor League:
More teams to play in Division 1 & 2

Minor Championship:
Division 1 Minor Championship to include amalgamations
Division 2 Minor Competition to include all other teams,
Amalgamations to be decided at Youth Board Level

U-20 Championship:
U-20 Championship to replace U-21 Championship in 2007

All
County
Football Leagues:
ACFL to comprise of 6 Divisions (1-6), Divisions 4, 5 & 6 would be the current reserve teams. Promotion and relegation through each of the divisions. The top two teams in each division to play in league final. Bottom two teams relegated in Divisions 1 & 2. One team relegated in Division 3, 4 & 5. One team promoted in Divisions 4, 5 & 6. 14 teams to play in divisions 1, 2 & 3 as per 2006 season.

Championship Football:
Senior, Intermediate & Junior Championships to return to a knockout basis with a backdoor system for the first round losers.

Junior B, C & D Competitions to be run in place of Reserve Championships

Winners of Junior B to be promoted to Junior Championship proper
Winners of Junior C to be promoted to Junior B Championship
Winners of Junior D to be promoted to Junior C Championship

In an ideal scenario there would be 16 teams in the Senior , Intermediate & Junior Championships. There may need to be promotion to these competitions for a number of years without relegation

Good stuff there...seems like the CB arent totally up their own arses afterall and can actually do good work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 04, 2006, 12:44:53 PM
Hello, new poster on the board...have been an avid reader for a while and decided to get involved.  Here is what my Cavan team would be for the Down match in May 2007!
1. James Reilly ( I reckon he will make himself available in early 2007)
2. Michael Hannon (great man marker)
3. Darren Rabbitte (potentially brilliant full back, does simple things right)
4. Keith Fannin (tight corner back)
5. Paul Brady (pure athlete)
6. Anthony Forde (let him sit back and sweep up)
7. Anthony Gaynor (big hits and endless running)
8. Pierce McKenna (good fielder)
9. Nicholas Walsh (stop a good man playing)
10. Ronan Flanagan (unbelievable potential, workhorse)
11. Micky Lyng (if fit will  eventually win an all-star)
12. Rory Gallagher (score getter)
13. Geard Pierson (due an injury free run to show his skills)
14. Eddie Reilly (passion and shows for every ball)
15. Sean Johnston (type of forward that every county needs, was good this year will be even better next year)

Dont know some of these too well
but given Cavans recent history of midfield woes, maybe a three man midfield would help out a lot....
Has Rory Gallagher actually committed though...



also - Gaynor is THE CHB...Cavan should be building a team around him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 04, 2006, 01:17:11 PM
I hear a rumour we played Laois in a challenge over the weekend and got hammered. Anyone have any info on that like what team started?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 01:22:00 PM
Nope.... got told by a Club collegue on Bebo that we got trounced around 4-11 to 0-09 in stradbally......
Reading the Laois Hoganstand board(actual decent conversation amazingly...i think its only the cavan hoganstandheads that are idiots)
It was said Cavan had a much Bigger all round physical team and hit very hard but were totally outclassed....also said that Laois are training 5 nights a week already its either 3 nights of weights and 2 nights of cardio or the other way round,...so id say they were much fitter than us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 04, 2006, 03:38:25 PM
I heard Cavan were training 5 nights a week as well?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 04, 2006, 03:46:56 PM
yeah i think there at it 5 nights a week aswell but they need it cos they were way behind the other teams last year fitness wise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 04, 2006, 03:49:06 PM
Definitely. The most unfit team I saw in the football championship last year. Terrible indictment of McElkennon really.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 04:02:12 PM
what i heard was 3 organised nights a week... and players encouraged to do hit the gym or roads etc two-three other nights themselves(ala Tyrone style system)...This being Cavan though,the other 2/3 nights are probably used for drinking!!!
But i could be mistaken...maybe they are at it 5 nights a week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 04, 2006, 04:04:36 PM
is jason reilly still on the panel ??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 04:06:02 PM
From what ive been told...
Everyone is in there bar Peter Reily who retired... and Podge and Miller who have opted out.
so Jason is yep.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 04, 2006, 04:10:51 PM
podge will b a big miss but u couldn't blame the lad for what he has gone through the last while..  Miller didn't opt out he told D.K he couldn't commit to training on a saturday until after xmas cos of personal reasons and was told he wasn't wanted if he wasn't going to give it 100%. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 04:16:09 PM
I wouldnt mind that...
Miller will be in goals come the championship......
Although Flanagan of Cuchullains is an able understudy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 04, 2006, 04:21:40 PM
I take it u mean Anderson of Cuchullains.  i think the lacken keeper is on the panel now aswell.  I doubt if miller will be back .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 04:42:43 PM
I take it u mean Anderson of Cuchullains.  i think the lacken keeper is on the panel now aswell.  I doubt if miller will be back .

ahh ANDERSON damnit i always mix up his name and that of the small Cuchullains cornerback Colm Flanagan.....
Shane Sheridan the Lacken keeper is in as you said...dont know much about him and havent seen him play so cant really comment on him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 04, 2006, 05:17:15 PM
Miller will be a miss alright but there were signs his heart wasn't in it last year after his Allstar perfromances the year previously. What's encouraging though is that DK told him to hit the road if he couldn't give it 100%. McElkennon would have accommodated him.

Bit of a tanking in Laois by all accounts - does anyone know what the team was? I took a look at the Laois site but it made my eyes bleed...

What happened with Podge? Was there a family bereavement? Shame he can't come back in, a good defender.

ac39 - I'd imagine Dermo will still be giving lip to all comers, not just McKenna. Dermo's an equal opportunities harrassment officer, he leaves nobody out generally. I expect McKenna is ready for it and is thick-skinned enough at this stage.

As for Flanagan, I'd say he's getting enough football already, he'll still be college and U21 and senior for his club and already has had a few injuries I think. He's a bit slight yet too, I'd have him as a sub but Sean Brady is big enough and experienced enough to hold his own now. He's not an intercounty midfielder though he has more to offer making sniping passes from the half-forward line and getting on the end of attacks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 05:42:09 PM
Some of you guys are pretty much against giving some of our young Starlets,Flanagan,Mackey,Cullivan etc much playing time this year as alot think they are too young...
The question i ask is what age do you think these players will ready for County Senior football then, 20/ 21?
The way Sean Brady has played this year for UCD and Castlerahan,leaves no doubt in my mind that his time for the county has come...But not at midfield in my opinion...Wing forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 04, 2006, 09:41:32 PM
ac39 - I'd imagine Dermo will still be giving lip to all comers, not just McKenna. Dermo's an equal opportunities harrassment officer, he leaves nobody out generally. I expect McKenna is ready for it and is thick-skinned enough at this stage.

Nice one. Didn't I hear on this board some time ago that Dermo reserved special affection for Pierce, who in turn became reciprocal as he felt a bit more established and got a kind of pissed off with the stick. Early days at this stage, the first test for the new team management will come when it gets around to naming a panel for the league.

Few people noting that Cavan had a "bigger" team out than Laois. Think back to last years fixture against Down and a few of our stalwarts were looking a lot bigger than I had seen them in some time, not in the positive sporting sense of the word unfortunately. Mind you, if there are a few big men who can play a bit of footy brought into the panel, would be most welcome.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 05, 2006, 02:00:55 PM
OK everyone fit, well and available come championship, here's my best team

1 Miller

2 Hannon
3 Rabbitt
4 Fannin

5 Brady
6 Forde
7 Gaynor

8 McKenna
9 walsh

10 Sean Brady
11 Lyng
12 McKeever

13 Jelly
14 McCabe
15 Pierson

With Larry and Jason as impact subs. If this team was fit and pumped up I think it's a serious outfit...

Savage goalkeeper
fullback line looks airtight if Rabbitt can keep his concentration
Half back line is brilliant, right balance of ballwinning, athleticism and pace
midfield is dubious alright
half forward line is fantastic - carrying ability, scoring, pace and fitness - this would be our strongest line
full forward line wouldnt be afr off the half forwards - jelly is going to be a household name this time next year if we do well. McCabe could be the perfect foil
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on December 05, 2006, 02:49:21 PM
I'm just guessing but I reckon that Jackson may have being a factor in getting McKenna back in the fold and if that is the case I wouldn't be surprised to see Millar between the sticks come the summer.He is by far the best goalie out there,although at times I'd like to see him vary his kickouts.
Maybe Cavan4ever might have a slant on this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 05, 2006, 03:11:43 PM
yeah id say jackson definatly worked on getting mckenna back (according to hoganstand board he was asked but refused).  Id say miller would go back after xmas if asked but will keoghan want to unsettle the squad??  I'd agree with what ur saying about the kickouts he doesn't vary them enough and this plays into other teams game plan.  When cavan drew with antrim in breffini two yrs ago mccabe blamed miller for cavan's bad performance because he couldn't get near the kickouts cos miller was kicking them 2 far.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 05, 2006, 03:19:08 PM
imagine complaining that your goalkeeper is kicking the ball too far  :D
Its called "take a few steps back Dermot"
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 05, 2006, 04:00:42 PM
OK everyone fit, well and available come championship, here's my best team

1 Miller

2 Hannon
3 Rabbitt
4 Fannin

5 Brady
6 Forde
7 Gaynor

8 McKenna
9 walsh

10 Sean Brady
11 Lyng
12 McKeever

13 Jelly
14 McCabe
15 Pierson

With Larry and Jason as impact subs. If this team was fit and pumped up I think it's a serious outfit..

That's a pretty good shout at our best team alright. I'd swop Gaynor and Forde and that'd be about all I'd change.

There'd be question marks over Lyng's fitness though, and McKeever's commitment, while Pierson faded out of the picture a bit prematurely last year if I recall which looked a bit sus, I don't think he was injured.

Is Paddy Brady from Gowna knocking about, or John Tierney...I heard the latter was regaining some fitness but these stories go around all the time. Brady was a shocking disappointment in the senior shirt after years of stardom underage. Shame.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 05, 2006, 05:56:45 PM
Know nothing about Paddy Brady...
John Tierney is out of the country at the moment so im told...I think his injuries have cleared up though and i heard he was playing savage stuff in the US this year.....so put id him down as an unknown at this stage.

at this stage my team would be.

1.Miller

2.Hannon
3.Rabbite
4.Fannin

5.Gunner
6.Gaynor
7.Forde

8.McKenna
9.Walsh

10.Sean Brady
11.Gallagher
12.McKeever

13.Jelly
14.McCabe
15.Pierson

It will take Lyng a good while to recover his fitness/form as he hasnt played for nearly 15 months.
Mad Eddie
Larry
Martin Cahill
Jayo
Flanagan
Cullivan etc
and some other younger lads etc all to come in


We all know though, this being Cavan...That the team come the championship will be nothing like these...
Some of theseplayers will be injured,some will opt out...and others will impress.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 05, 2006, 06:16:00 PM
I like the look of your side BH
even though you are an eejit (so we are told !  ::))

Maybe Gallagher in at FF with McCabe getting the crowd going with an introduction to save the game midway through the second half a la Down replay in Breffni 2005 (I think it was)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 05, 2006, 06:38:28 PM
Me an eejit Never!!!  ;D
McCabe was flying in the challenge game we played against Laois on Saturday even though we got hammered...
He was flying in the McKenna Cup this year against Fermanagh and gave an exhibition of fielding i havent seen from him in at least 5 years....
If he can stay clear of the injuries and get and keep the weight off....He might be in the middle of the field with Nicko Walshe at Centre or Full Forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 05, 2006, 08:52:06 PM
Fairly familiar names from everyone with their teams for next year. As I see it basically the team from two years ago that got to last 12 plus Sean Brady/Pierson in for a lough of Reilly's. All we need is a bit of luck with injuries, inter player relations, general committment and who knows where it could lead................

One name that has been quickly forgotten is Mulvey from the Bridge, which is interesting given our lack of options at midfield. As I recall he was starting to show a bit of promise during the league last year. Got himself injured and then, in a cameo of the fortunes of Cavan football was brought on in his injured state against Armagh in Under 21 Championship towards the end, but with enough time to get sent off for kickin some bloke up the hole and copped a 12 week suspension. Pity. Remember he looked a bit out of it two years ago but did seem to be making a fist of things last year before "events" intervened. Any opinions.

Some Laois bloke posted a very good item on hogan stand today. Bad news is that we were up against a Laois development squad, so he reckoned. He spoke very positively of a long haired bloke in our half back line who made a big impression and looked seriously fit. Any chance it was Wakely from Kingscourt? My source up there told me he was talked into the senior panel this year and is in serious shape. Same source also told me that Gaynor played some savage ball at FF for Ballinagh, reckons it's a position that might be more suited to the lads temprament. Pity it leaves a bit of a gap at half back though.

Final point, our Laois man pointed out that Dermot was getting rather upset with his fellow players. Good man yourself, nothing like a November challenge to generate a bit of bonding, togetherness and team spirit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on December 06, 2006, 11:03:20 AM

Some Laois bloke posted a very good item on hogan stand today. Bad news is that we were up against a Laois development squad, so he reckoned. He spoke very positively of a long haired bloke in our half back line who made a big impression and looked seriously fit.

I'd say it was probably Ballyhaisemans club mate Barry Kelly,he's a big strong lad,very fit,good on the ball, although his defending at times may be suspect.

Even though Podge may have opted out at the moment,I'd be fairly sure that he'll be there or thereabouts in the summer. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 06, 2006, 11:15:23 AM
Ath this time of year if you're just super fit you're bound to stand out though. Come summer when everyone is flying fit it could be a different story...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 06, 2006, 01:43:03 PM
Hey folks new poster here, well probably more of an observer than poster.

Anyway take a deep breath, cos I'm from Ballinagh!! But don't worry I won't be littering the board with up the nagh crap that goes on the hoganstand.

Just to give yous more of a Ballinagh related inside track on the county, Podge isn't going in because he is in his final year in college but he will play for county u21s. P.S wouldn't be surprised to see Gaynor booted of the panel at some stage, not that he is an angel or anything ;D, but Keoghan has it in for him and will send him packing given half the chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 06, 2006, 05:44:27 PM
If I were Keoghan I'd be more worried about who has it in for him (half of Cavan)!!! I reckon Gaynor could be one of our star men this year if someone could help him channel his aggression into football and away from stupidity. I also think Cavan are going to need a three man midfield this year as with McCabes legs gone they just don't have the players to compete with the best on a 1 to 1 basis. I think we'll have to model ourselves on the Tyrone team of around 6/7 years ago which had a small athletic midfield and broke every ball that came near them. I'm thinking maybe Paul Brady might be a man that could be one of the three??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 06, 2006, 06:41:13 PM
Welcome to the board Homer......
Indeed Rossi is correct Barry Kelly of my own club supposedly was oustanding against Laois....
Hes a very very good player....hes a very attacking half back,although i would disagree with Rossi's observation that his defending can be a bit poor,other than Slowey hes probably our best Man marker...
Homer, i cant see Keoghan throwing Gaynor out of the panel....With Crowe refusing into the panel,we dont have a plethora of Centre Halves(lets face it..Forde is too small for Centre Half back).
Myles....i like the idea of Paul Brady as a third midfielder...hes probably the best fielder of a ball on the panel...its a shame he wasnt a few inches taller...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 07, 2006, 11:05:44 AM
Welcome Homer!

I have to say I'm loving the huge Cavan presence on this board. I think for about two years I was the only Cavan man on here, it was fierce lonely altogether. Then a bloke called blue05 or something - blue something anyway - arrived and kept me company for a further year or so and then, bejasus, the floodgates opened and we have our own threads that never die and run to multiples of pages.

We don't win very much but our presence here shows the massive interest we have in the games and would put other counties to shame! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 07, 2006, 01:19:56 PM
We don't win very much but our presence here shows the massive interest we have in the games and would put other counties to shame!


Welcome on board Homer. Maniacs comment is indeed as true as it gets. Reminds me of a particularly smug p***k I work with from one of our un-named neighbouring counties, lets just say you have to travel through there on the way to Dublin. The jist of what he delivered in a best flat Nobber style was............"bejasus if All Irelands were won on canteen talk, shop floor talk and pub talk they'd be presenting it to ye every year". Presume he has now added internet chatter. Hate to admit it, maybe the @#@@#er had a point.

Here's to success in 07
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 07, 2006, 01:24:39 PM
We don't win very much but our presence here shows the massive interest we have in the games and would put other counties to shame!


Welcome on board Homer. Maniacs comment is indeed as true as it gets. Reminds me of a particularly smug p***k I work with from one of our un-named neighbouring counties, lets just say you have to travel through there on the way to Dublin. The jist of what he delivered in a best flat Nobber style was............"bejasus if All Irelands were won on canteen talk, shop floor talk and pub talk they'd be presenting it to ye every year". Presume he has now added internet chatter. Hate to admit it, maybe the @#@@#er had a point.

Here's to success in 07

dont all these smug ones seem to be fellas that either didnt play after u12 level or come from a rubbish club

I mean, nobber - that renowned successful club side...
 :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 07, 2006, 02:40:53 PM
dont all these smug ones seem to be fellas that either didnt play after u12 level or come from a rubbish club

I mean, nobber - that renowned successful club side...


If only it were so Lynchbhoy, the fella in question wouldn't kick doors on a halloween night, no more than myself, unfortunately he is from a clan with some serious form, as in All Ireland medals in the pocket. with that legendary modesty, not afraid to let you know about it either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 08, 2006, 06:33:52 PM
Gaynor takes a break ’Down Under’
08 December 2006


One of the most talented young footballers in Cavan football at the present time – Anthony Gaynor from the Ballinagh club has departed for Australia for a few months break, and will miss the Dr. McKenna Cup and games in the National Football League with the Breffni county side.

The versatile defender, who has had a long hard season with club and county, culminating in his club winning the Cavan SFL title (Division One) recently against a fancied Gowna side is hoping to stay in Australia for a few months. His plans are to come back to Ireland early next year, and hopefully, play a role with Cavan and Ballinagh in championship football.

No doubt, his departure ’Down Under’ is a great disappointment for the new Cavan senior management team, who are hoping to get a settled team in time for the start of the National Football League which commences early in February. Gaynor would be very much in the plans, and all they can hope for is that he comes back refreshed early in the new year in plenty of time for the opening round of the 2007 Ulster SFC and the meeting with Down in Kingspan/Breffni Park, Cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 08, 2006, 07:38:02 PM
FFS. Not the actions of a happy bunny! Maybe there is something to the previous post about Keoghan not seeing eye-to-eye with Gaynor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 10, 2006, 06:11:09 PM
Anyone know today's U21 championship scores? How did Parnells v Castlerahan go?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 10, 2006, 06:35:11 PM
Castlerahan won 1-8 to 0-1. Wasn't at it but the result is up on aertel p586.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 10, 2006, 10:03:21 PM
dont all these smug ones seem to be fellas that either didnt play after u12 level or come from a rubbish club

I mean, nobber - that renowned successful club side...


If only it were so Lynchbhoy, the fella in question wouldn't kick doors on a halloween night, no more than myself, unfortunately he is from a clan with some serious form, as in All Ireland medals in the pocket. with that legendary modesty, not afraid to let you know about it either.


I'd have an answer to that and all Celt - if its the crew I think yer talking about
they are a decent family but have their achilles heel also - more so in the post playing involvement
...theres nothing to crow about there..

I remember putting a kilmaighnamwood eejit back in his box a few years back - he owned a pub round cootehill and was of similar smugness (another guy about 5' 6" , jampot glasses and never kicked a ball)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 10, 2006, 10:59:13 PM
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(another guy about 5' 6" , jampot glasses and never kicked a ball)

Leave me out o this lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 10, 2006, 11:19:54 PM
I hear there was a big spread in the Star yesterday about Keogan "Big name GAA manager faces 12 charges" or something

Anyone see it?

Anyone give us a report on the U21 final?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 11, 2006, 09:57:21 AM
heard about the thing on keoghan.  does anyone know what it said??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 11, 2006, 10:24:49 AM
I seen it, cant remember if it Friday or Saturday, regardless, I was absolutely stunned reading it, roughly it said that he was up on charges of drinking an driving, assulting a guard and also up on another charge of assulting a woman, there was possibly a few other bits in there, but these were the major ones. Did the county board know of these impending charges when making his appointment, very embarressing, the worst is yet to come I would imagine. There will be fun when it gets to court, they will take lots of milage out of it. Crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 11, 2006, 10:46:10 AM
The whole county knew about it, sure he's one of the most high profile GAA people in Cavan.

However, as the saying goes, he who pays the piper calls the tune...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 11, 2006, 01:18:13 PM
Was at the U21 final alright and I have to say I'd be advising any Castlerahan folk who have designs on a senior championship in future years to perhaps curb their enthusiasm a bit.

It finished 1-8 to 0-8 and I'd say if it had gone on for five more minutes Parnells might have nicked it and possibly deserved to.

I know Castlerahan's reputation is for having very skilful young footballers but I think they've forgotten that a hard work ethic and sensible tactical approach are also required if more success is to come their way. In the opening half, a much bigger and hardier Parnells side seemed to be trying to upset Castlerahan with late tackles and off the ball niggle (nothing too serious mind) instead of concentrating on the ball. Early balls into attack paid dividends for Castlerahan in this period and a few nice points were tapped over by their no14 while a perceptive pass inside resulted in a foul and peno for Cian Mackey to convert. Parnells didn't have much up front in this half despite winning a fair share of possession; shooting wides or getting bottled up. It was noticeable even at this stage though how hard the Parnells lads were working, hunting like terriers, four and five around the opponent with the ball every time. They just didn't have the class in attack to convert this labour intensive approach into scores. It was 1-5 to 0-2 at the break I think.

Second half, Parnells put the shoulder to the wheel even more. Constantly Castlerahan tried to short pass the ball out of defence which was suicide given the closing down Parnells were doing and their massive physical superiority. Unlike the first half a few scores started to come and their no13 was doing a fair bit of damage and eventually got man of the match. Parnells were immense around the middle third as well. It was hot and heavy for the favourites at this stage, they couldn't win a single ball in midfield to exploit the forwards who in fairness did give Parnells bother any time they got it - it was just all too rare they saw the ball so dominated were Castlerahan from their own kickouts. As well, any time 'Rahan gained possession at the back they short-passed themselves into trouble or got harassed into coughing up the ball. One way traffic practically.

Parnells had a brilliant goal chance at one stage when three down, midway through second half, very well saved by the Castlerahan keeper. Had it gone in I'd say Castlerahan were buried. As it transpired they were within 2 at one point later on but this was the closest they got. The ref Brian Crowe got some stick from Parnells fans but I think he did ok. There was a peno not given but it was defo outside the box and then he gave a free out with Parnells attacking in a good position for a handy score but it looked like a charging offence to me with the elbow up. He did give Mackey two verrrry soft frees though, both in first half.

The odd occasion Castlerahan manged to work an attack, they scored. All three of their second half scores came from 14 yard frees, to be honest they weren't even getting wides from play so little did they have of the ball. Two of those scores came very late on and as I said at the top, if there was five more minutes to play I'd have fancied Parnells to nick it.

Underdogs Parnells can consider themselves very unlucky. They didn't have the individuals Castlerahan had (no14 had a great first half, Flanagan at centre back played very well and the full back did well in a defence that saw an awful lot of pressure and hard duty in second half) but they worked like trojans and supported each other much better than a slightly complacent-looking Castlerahan. Their physical strength also told massively and on this basis, Castlerahan won't be winning an SFC with this crop of nice footballers who haven't the muscle or on this performance at least, haven't the appetite for the hard yards and slog work.

Parnells side is almost entirely U21 again next year and for the effort, spirit and never say die approach to this game I hope they get their rewards in 2007. Lucky Castlerahan!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 11, 2006, 08:51:00 PM
Thanks for the under 21 report, sounds like whoever was coaching Parnells got a fairly limited team operating to maximum potential. Any defenders there that could do a job for the county at that grade?

Now in deference to the fact that Maniac is the senior cavan poster on site I've decided to curb my dark pessimistic moods until we are a few games into the league and all that. The Keogan media situation really makes you wonder though. Now there are plenty of inter county coaches who are no angels, although I can't think of one off hand who has managed to have his dirty linen washed this publicly. Of course, doesn't matter a f**k if the results are produced. The county board are certainly giving plenty of hostages to fortune if things were to go wrong and team disciplilne was a factor, team discipline of the off the field variety that is. Never a dull moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 12, 2006, 10:14:08 AM
I honestly think Cavan will make a lot of progress this year (if their manager stays out of the can!).

We've hit one of the lowest ebbs we've ever been at - the only way really is up. There is a strong core of talented young players and a nice mix of experience too if they can be coaxed to put in a serious effort.

As someone pointed out on this board before, if you had've said in May '94 when we had lost our sixth first round game in a row that within three years we'd be Ulster champions (when Ulster meant something) and have made an Under 21 All Ireland final you'd have been laughed at.

That Under 21 team in 96 did nothing at minor remember, not unlike this year's Under 21 crop. Like 97, we've got a good draw at senior this year, avoiding the big guns really until the Ulster final (hypothetical obviously).

The spine of the defence are in their prime now - Miller (if he plays), Rabbitt, Forde, Gunner... Up front then we have three of the best 22 year olds in Ireland in Brady, Johnston and McKeever.

I mean the likes of Beano McDonald or Donie Brennan wouldn't hold a candle to Johnston. He's the main man this year, but a lot depends on McKeever. When he plays really well Cavan are a different team. He's the forgotten man I think.

Then you still have the likes of McCabe, Jason, Larry - surely they have something to offer...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 12, 2006, 10:43:09 AM
yeah i agree with ya in what ur saying bout mckeever when he is playing well cavan seem to play well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 12, 2006, 10:49:42 AM
Thanks for the under 21 report, sounds like whoever was coaching Parnells got a fairly limited team operating to maximum potential. Any defenders there that could do a job for the county at that grade?

Nail on the head. It would have been a real triumph for grit and determination. The physical bulk of their side would make me hope a few of the players get drafted although none of them stood out - a real team effort tbh - but if Cavan teams at all levels need one thing it a bit of brute force and old fashioned pig-headed ignorance.

Now in deference to the fact that Maniac is the senior cavan poster on site I've decided to curb my dark pessimistic moods until we are a few games into the league and all that...

That's all we can do. In keeping with the 'crossroads' theory I've been espousing all year, Cavan can either stay precisely where they are or make significant progress. That's why the manager appointment was so crucial and although it didn't work out as we all had hoped we've no option but to give Keogan a shot now and besides, with the mobiles in the Joy and all that he should be able to conduct team affairs from D wing, or else get his cell mate Anto to pick the team for the Down game.
There's lots of reasons to think it could go well and equally good reasons perhaps to believe the opposite but for all the reasons I've outlined all year I choose to be genuinely hopeful if not outright expectant, and get behind the lads until given reason to do otherwise.
Although it's the U21s I'm really watching out for this year...I will be genuinely disgusted if we don't achieve something at this level this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 12, 2006, 04:38:46 PM
Gaynor takes a break ’Down Under’

Was talking to Anthony before he left and very much intended coming home alright, he is after playing a very hectic year of football (I think Ballinagh played as many games at senior level as anyone else this year) so he just wanted a break and with the current schedule now is his only chance.

I don't know how the Keoghan and co felt about this tho.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 12, 2006, 06:05:24 PM
Best of luck to Gaynor...he deserves his break...Hope he has a good time and a fair few sessions down under....
He was Cavans best player against Down in the championship,and i heard he played fairly well against Kildare aswell...
It wont make a hell of alot of difference him missing a few months...Id say hes a serious trainer and will be in the Gyms in Austrailia 4 or 5 days a week anyway.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 12, 2006, 07:40:23 PM
Gaynor doesnt really need the gym

a natural athlete and naturally v strong - firey disposition also adds to his strength..

just need to harness him and get him to channel his aggression into CHB and teach him not to foul (well within scoring range of frees anyhow)

Cavan have the country's best CHB and dont realise it !
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 12, 2006, 08:34:40 PM
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just need to harness him and get him to channel his aggression into CHB and teach him not to foul

Is that all?  ::)

Seriuosly, he needs to keep the head if he wants to be a county footballer. It's no good being the best player on the field for 60 minutes and being on the line for the last ten when the match is up for grabs.

Any player who gets himself sent off can't handle the heat - this is something 100% of sports psychologists agree on believe it or not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 12, 2006, 08:49:05 PM
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just need to harness him and get him to channel his aggression into CHB and teach him not to foul

Is that all?  ::)

Seriuosly, he needs to keep the head if he wants to be a county footballer. It's no good being the best player on the field for 60 minutes and being on the line for the last ten when the match is up for grabs.

Any player who gets himself sent off can't handle the heat - this is something 100% of sports psychologists agree on believe it or not.

it never hampered a lot of the 'great meath team'
if Gaynor gets a wee bit cuter, he neednt have to curb his natural tendencies...
imo of course

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 13, 2006, 11:00:09 AM
Will not accept that Brick
I know the case you are making
but not everyone is beyond educating and changing.
Some are lost causes.
I am delighted to hear that Cassidy was onto Gaynor.
All too often the wrong approach is taken with younger players and they revolt rather than reform.

As 'ball has stated, Gaynor is not THAT bad in a Cavan jersey, and I believe with the right mentor and tutoring, he can eradicate all potential rushes of blood to the head during the game from his play.
Its not just the red/yellow cards, its the giving of frees away in scorable positions, it is also the stigma that can be attached to him by ref's  - therefore they will give frees against him easier too.

My point is, he is not that bad, he can be educated and fine tuned into a top class hard nosed cuter CHB.
I dont accept he cannot.I have worked with players with similar bad temperment.OK younger, but they almost all can change.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 13, 2006, 11:46:04 AM
Gaynor has made a bed for himself unfortunately. When we played Derry a few seasons ago in the back door Johnny McBride was on him and never let him alone for a second, thumping the head off him. Gaynor eventually started to lose it and then started to forget about ball and went down to the level Mcbride wanted him too. My point is, if Gaynor doesn't learn he will be constantly targeted by wind up merchants like McBride.
BTW, that game against Mayo he came back for after the long suspension he got from the U21 final was one he was very lucky not to get sent off in, as he jumped with his knees into a player on the ground.
I still reckon he is one of  our best players but he needs to find a balance between the nasty stuff and the proper level of aggression - sort of like Roy Keane had to do at one point in his career.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rollout on December 13, 2006, 01:08:41 PM
If he hadn't gone off injured against Kildare he may have ended up being sent off. He was going in recklessly with some challenges after being put to the ground a few times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 13, 2006, 01:24:16 PM
Fair play to him for not being sent off for seven league games and an amzing TWO chmapionship matches (he went off injured in one of these).  This reminds me of Eddie Murphys skit about black people being proud of stuff that other people wouldn't be, eg boasting:

"Hey man, I ain't never murdered nobody!!"

I see your point in fairness, but the jury's still out on whether he's the reformed character you seem to think he is.

We need his robust style on this team for sure, but any clown can go out and hatchet other teams. We need him to show some self control, and if we get the best out of him he'll be outstanding.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 13, 2006, 01:42:57 PM
He has a reputation for been hot heated now as well so im sure he is being wound up all the time which doesn't help him with his short fuse.  He seems to do alot of winding up other players aswell and if they react and don't get spotted by any officals he then dishes out his own punishment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 13, 2006, 02:35:39 PM
Looks like we could have nearly started an Anthony Gaynor thread here. But heres a few comments on him.

I'm almost positive he holds the record for most sendings off in a single year by any one player, 8 that was between trench cup, club and county u21 and Senior. Nothing to be proud of i know.

He was sent off once this year, in the League final for a harsh(IMHO of course) second yellow. This wasn't an instance of losing the head when things got tough either as the game was all but over at this stage. I'm not saying that he didn't get away with anything during the year but surely its a notable improvement.

The key to improving Gaynor is not to repress his aggression (you take the aggression out of Gaynor's game, you take the game out of Gaynor), but to channel it to better use.

The unfortunate thing is that for every team he goes out to play against he will be wound up, but he has made his bed and now he has no choice but to lie in it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 13, 2006, 03:21:21 PM
He may have only been sent off once for his club this year but he got away with loads in the games in Breffini that i seen him play.  Referee's chickened out of sending him off in clubs games this year for some reason.  In 4 games i saw ballinagh play he had 3-4 red card offences at least which is about 1 a game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 13, 2006, 03:33:06 PM
I wouldn't disagree with alot of what's said here but although I haven't read the book in question and am definitely no psychologist, I'd say a tendency to 'cop out' is the last problem I'd associate with Gaynor.

If anything he's far too ballsy and gamey and attracts trouble with his robust style, as well as WUMs with his short fuse. Both combine to result in a fair few disciplinary problems (anyone recall Coleman absolutely going berserk on the sideline in that U21 final when he got the line?) but in a tight game when we need him most there's nobody I'd rather have bursting into tackles than Gaynor - provided there's otherwise been no niggle and he's concentrating fully on the game. A bit of maturity and he'll be a hell of an asset but he needs good, thoughful and imaginative management.

That replay against Down in his first season at senior, he was immense when the chips were down andwe looked buried. The number of times he busted up the play and marauded forward setting up those late attacks for McCabe, I simply lost count.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 13, 2006, 05:23:25 PM
Yeah he was unreal in both games against Down the first year, if he could hit those heights again we'd be flying
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 14, 2006, 03:48:44 PM
Cavan U-21 panel announced
14 December 2006


The Cavan U-21 panel selected to take part in the forthcoming Hastings Cup competition – which will include Roscommon, Leitrim and Longford – in preparation for the 2007 Ulster U-21 Championship includes many of the top young talent in the county at the present times.

Training for the Cavan senior and U-21 panels has been ongoing over the last few weeks with both in action in January, 2007.

Because of a recent decision from Central Council the months of November and December have been officially closed for county teams with regard to tournament and challenge games.
Permission has been refused from Croke Park for all tournament and challenge matches. As a result, Cavan’s opening game in the U-21 Hastings Cup tournament against Roscommon which was to have been played this week-end has been deferred until Saturday, 6th January at a venue to be decided, probably in Our Lady of Lourdes Park, Mullahoran with a 2 o’clock start.

According to reports training has been going well for both these panels and there has been good turn-outs at all the sessions. Hopes are high that the Breffni side can make a strong challenge for U-21 honours in the coming season.

Cavan U-21 panel – Enda Gaffney (Crosserlough), Darragh Gaffney (Drumalee), Aaron Duignan (Kildallan), Adrian Taite (Cuchulainns), Andrew Smith (Cornafean), Colin Lynch (Crosserlough), Cormac Geoghegan (Cornafean), Dane O’Dowd (Drumlane), Declan Gallon (Killygarry), Dermot Sheridan (Mullahoran); Emmett Madden (Gowna), Enda McCormick (Drumalee), Fergal Slowey (Ballyhaise), Finbar Jordan (Lavey), Gearoid Collins (Cavan Gaels), John Cunningham (Swanlinbar), Cillian Lynch (Cuchulainns), Liam Duignan (Cornafean), Michael Mee-han (Cavan Gaels), Paraic Smith (Castlerahan), Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise), R. Galligan (Lacken), Sean Higgins (Cavan Gaels), Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise), Simon Delaney (Killinkere), Thomas Brady (Mountnugent), Alan Clarke (Kingscourt), Anton Reilly (Ramor Utd.), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Declan Mc-Cabe (Crosserlough), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Michael McDonald (Drumgoon), P. Reilly (Ballinagh) and R. Flanagan (Castlerahan).


strong panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 14, 2006, 05:14:05 PM
Very strong team this year alright, our best chance of silverware, here's my stab at a team

1. ?
2. Fergal Slowey - (Ballyhaise)
3. Padraic O’Reilly - (Ballinagh)
4. Enda McCormack - (Drumalee)
5. Finbar Jordan - (Lavey)
6. Dermot Sheridan - (Mullahoran)
7. Gearoid Collins - (Cavan Gaels)
8. Ray Cullivan - (Ballyhaise)
9. Alan Clarke - (Kingscourt)
10.Raymond Galligan - (Lacken)
11.Darragh Gaffney - (Drumalee)
12.Cian Mackey - (Castlerahen)
13.Martin Reilly - (Killygarry)
14.Anton Reilly - (Ramor Utd)
15.Ronan Flanagan - (Castlerahen)

Don't know any decent keepers. Terry Smith not playing, Andrew Smith is not near the standard. Are Delaney and Taite keepers

I see Daragh Gunne(think he's still underage) and Ali Pickett are missing are they not going in this year?

Declan McCabe is suspended for first round he got a straight red against Armagh last year.

If Geroid Collins does regain match form in time I'd probably put Emmet Madden full-back and bring Podge out CHB.

Haven't seen Micheal McDonald play in a while but I hear he has came on a bit from the awkward fellow he was, could be an option for midfield if so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 14, 2006, 06:06:04 PM
Simon Delaney is a goalkeeper from Killinkere alright...
my team would be

1.Simon Delaney(Killinkere)
2.Fergal Slowey(Ballyhaise)
3.Sean McCormack(Ballyhaise)
4.Enda McCormack(Drumalee)
5.Dermot Sheridan(Mullahoran)
6.Padraic Reily(Ballinagh) Captain
7.Finbar Jordan(Lavey)
8.Michael McDonald(Drumgoon)
9.Ray Cullivan(Ballyhaise)
10.Cian Mackey(Castlerahan)
11.Darragh Gaffney(Drumalee)
12.Raymond Galligan(Lacken)
13.Martin Reily(Killygarry)
14.Alan Clarke(Kingscourt)
15.Ronan Flanagan(Castlerahan)

Being a Ballyhaise man i think Sean McCormack if on form is a definite on the under 21 team....he was outstanding all year for us
Podge could have more of an impact on the game at CHB in my opinion.
Gearoid Collins is an outstanding footballer,and should get on the team if as you say he shows some form...But he was only after returning from the US last year so was only on the Gaels Junior team.
Anton Reily was playing CHB for Ramor this year....he could be another option back there...
was impressed with McDonald when we played them in the league......I think a big 6'3 plus midfielder who can catch and is fairly mobile..something i didnt expect him to be is a necessity seeing as Ray Cullivan alongside him is only around the 6 foot mark.
Gaffney and Galligan would give us skill and ball winning ability in the half forward line...if i remember correctly Delaney has a big kickout on him.
I think Full Forward is Alan Clarkes best position.
Our teams are pretty similar though.
Gunne and Ali Pickett would have been two great options as Cornerforwards...they unfortunately must not be interested.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 14, 2006, 08:09:33 PM
Just a thought, hear he played super football at full forward in a few club matches this year. Put him in there to focus on getting and creating scores, with not quite the same emphasis on big tackles. Is that a possible. I know I would love to see him at CHB where we really need some controlled aggression, however the controlled bit seems to escape the lad a fair bit. Just an idea.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 15, 2006, 09:38:16 AM
Here we have a new county board chairman, anyone have any news from last nite?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 18, 2006, 03:54:33 PM
Does anyone have any news on the county team.  When is first mckenna cup game been played?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 18, 2006, 04:17:06 PM
McKenna cup fixtures

A run down on the Dr McKenna Cup Fixtures for 2007.

All games at 2.00 p.m. (Extra time to be played in Semi finals & Final)
(Venues to be confirmed)

7th Jan: Round 1: Section A
1. St. Mary’s v 2. Armagh at Crossmaglen
3. Fermanagh v 4. Monaghan at Lisnaskea

Section B
1. Derry v 2. Cavan at Celtic Park
3. Queens University v 4. Tyrone at Omagh

Section C
1. Donegal v 2. UUJ at Ballyshannon
3. Down v 4. Antrim at Newcastle

14th Jan: Round 2: Section A
2. Armagh v 3. Fermanagh at Crossmaglen
4. Monaghan v 1. St. Mary’s at Castleblayney

Section B
2. Cavan v 3. Queens University at Cavan
4. Tyrone v 1. Derry at Omagh

Section C
2. UUJ v 3. Down at Newcastle
4. Antrim v 1. Donegal at Casement Park

21st Jan: Round 3: Section A
1. St. Mary’s v 3. Fermanagh at Irvinestown
2. Armagh v 4. Monaghan at Castleblaney

Section B
1. Derry v 3. Queens University at Celtic Park
2. Cavan v 4. Tyrone at Cavan

Section C
1. Donegal v 3. Down at Ballybofey
2. UUJ v 4. Antrim at Casement Park

28th Jan: Semi Finals:
(1) Winner of Section C v Winner of Section A
(2) Winner of Section B v 4th Placed Team

18th February; Final:
1 v 2

Haven't heard anything with regards news with the squad tho, without podge or gaynor in there, my sources are limited. On the bright side we have 2 home games in the cup and the Derry match is being televised live on TG4. I can only see the real die-hards making the trip to celtic park now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 18, 2006, 04:22:07 PM
As a matter of interest Philip Smith our new county board Chairman works with Kingspan doesn't he?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 18, 2006, 08:43:25 PM
Jaysus TG4 are starting televising McKenna Cup matches  :o
Good stuff...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 20, 2006, 05:06:14 PM
Hopes and aspirations of new Cavan Co. Board Chairman From Hoganstand
20 December 2006


Hopes and aspirations of new Cavan Co. Board Chairman
The newly elected Cavan Co. Board Chairman Phil Smith from the Kingscourt Stars GFC has put forward his own ideas and views on how he sees Cavan progressing at all levels in the coming years. As the 21st Chairman of the Co. Board he said he hoped to meet whatever task he undertook with enthusiasm and passion in order to achieve success on the playing fields and to continue the excellent work in various aspects of the association within the county.
He said one of his objectives was that county teams in all grades would be able to compete with the best in Ulster. This could only be achieved through the schools and colleges with the support of teachers, progressing to the development squads and ultimately county representation, all being facilitated by the county’s full-time coaches.
The eventual target, he said, would be to put Cavan back on the football map where they rightfully belonged.

“Looking forward to improving competitiveness on the local club scene’’ – Phil Smith
On club football in the Breffni county, Co. Board Chairman Phil Smith asked clubs to look at the new proposals with a view to standardising the fixtures, giving more competitiveness to the competitions in both league and championship and a master fixtures plan for all grades. The involvement of the Youth Board, colleges, second-level schools into the planning of fixtures is also vitally important he said. These matters will be the subject for discussion at the first meeting of the Co. Board in January.
As he begins his term in office, Phil Smith said the GAA was about the clubs of the county, and those who play their games or administer the rules and regulations. He said he was taking over his new role with enthusiasm and needed the support from the clubs if he was to carry out his functions in the most effective manner.

Former Chairman speaks on Task Force recommendations
George Cartwright in his final address as Chairman of Cavan Co. Board GAA spoke about the recommendations of the task force which had been set up in October last to look at the various competitions and structures. These recommendations were sent out to the clubs and will be the subject of debate at the first Co. Board meeting in January 2007.
He also referred to Cavan’s strategic plan during 2006 when a number of officers came together in conjunction with expertise from the Ulster Council to draw up a strategic plan for the county for the next five years.
This though was being carried out in every club in Ulster and, said Cartwright, in Cavan plans proposed some five years ago, with the exception of success on the playing fields, had been realised.
The clubs were being asked for a major imput into this 5-year plan and each had received a questionnaire which sets the process rolling. An important workshop will be held on Saturday, 27th January in Hotel Kilmore at 10 a.m. Three delegates from each club must attend, the chairman, secretary and one other person.
He said what will be discussed at this meeting are the needs, issues and priorities facing Cavan over the next five years.
Cartwright appealed to clubs to follow the example of the county plan and to strongly consider putting a plan in place for consideration. Matters like how do you see your club in five years time; will the game still be as attractive to the youth; will young people see gaelic games as still an important part of their lives; how will clubs integrate International newcomers into their clubs.
He said this club plan should be based on sound planning and a determination to maintain and strengthen the GAA and the wider community it serves.

“Major changes in disciplinary measures,’’ says Cartwright
Major changes in disciplinary measures will come into effect from 1st January, 2007 to the current disciplinary rules and procedures. These changes follow a comprehensive review by a high-powered Task Force comprising some of the best legal eagles and GAA gurus in the country.
Cartwright said he thought these changes were quite radical and would require a long period of adjustment. The objective of the changes was that players, clubs and members would have ample opportunity to be heard in their defence if disciplinary action is brought against them, while ensuring that where misconduct or other breaches of rule have taken place those responsible would be made accountable and would not escape on technicalities.
He said the Co. Board would organise a briefing meeting after the first Co. Board meeting in January at which the learning curve could begin.


Cavan Co. Board Treasurer Tom Boylan reasonably happy with state of finances
Looking back on 2006 from a financial point of view, Cavan Co. Board Treasurer Tom Boylan expressed himself reasonably happy. With expenditure reaching an all-time high of §1.4m, nevertheless the year ended showed a small deficit of slightly over §2,600.
Income for the year was §1,362,802 which was up §183,000 on the previous year. Expenditure was §1,365,464 up §125,000 on the previous year. The main reason for the increase was fund-raising which went from §65,000 to §193,344 in 2006, an increase of 34%.
Boylan paid tribute to the Supporters Club in Dublin for the continued hard work in fund-raising which culminated in a figure of §30,000. The Dublin-based supporters club also assisted in travel and hotel expenses for county team training in Dublin.
Boylan said the Corporate Night was a new fund-raising venture organised under the chairmanship of Liam McCabe. He praised McCabe and his committee for making such an outstanding success and bringing in a profit of almost §170,000.
Commercial income and transfer income also showed substantial increases from the previous year. He paid tribute to the sponsors for their continued support and in particular the main county team sponsor Kingspan Group plc and associate sponsor Donal Keogan.
On transfer income, Boylan mentioned that travelling and hotel expenses from Ulster and Central Council amounted to §42,000; All-Ireland qualifiers §40,000, and coaching and games development §144,000. On expenditure, the county team expenditure and administration amounted to 62% of the total expenditure.
In relation to county team spending, Tom Boylan said more control was required and expenditure should be kept within bud-get. He anticipated that under the new management expenditure in the coming year will come within budget.
He paid tribute to Bernie Lynch, clerical officer in Breffni Park; Liam McCabe and Martin Cahill, the Treasurers of the Minor Board, Schools Board and Scor; stewards who helped not only in Kingspan-Breffni Park, Cavan but also at venues throughout the county.
He also thanked former Chairman George Cartwright and former Central Council representative Phil Brady for their support during their period in office.

 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: highking on December 22, 2006, 01:48:40 AM
Lads,

Can an of yee answer this question.

2) Before the newly appointed Donal Keoghan, who was the last Cavan native to manage the Breffni senior footballers?

Highking
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on December 22, 2006, 08:32:39 AM
Pretty sure it was PJ Carroll.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on December 22, 2006, 08:47:09 AM
But then again... Damien O'Reilly did take over for a few league games after Machugh left as Temporary manager (Maybe this didn't count as being fully flegded but he did serve!).

Highking,
This is from the Hoganstand quiz thread?? Could be a controversial question in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 22, 2006, 10:58:57 AM
And when McHugh took a winter break at Xmas 96 before coming back and leading us to glory in Ulster, Donal Donoghue I think took over for the first few league games in which we were roundly spanked if I recall correctly.

But the last official, full-time Cavan boss was definitely PJ Carroll whose last campaign was in 1993 prior to McHugh's takeover in time for the 1994 win over Antrim, which was, back then, our first championship win in 7 attempts or something.

Incidentally, in googling that to check my facts, I came across two articles on hoganstand from the early 90s which might interest Cavan readers:

http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=48467

and

http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=41945
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on December 22, 2006, 11:18:56 AM
great articles  indeed Cavan Maniac! Jim Reilly was one of the best. Another name in there was the mention of the tenacious Pat Faulkner. Pure Legend. Those lads were part of a very solid team that never made a real breakthrough. I can remember sitting in the Hogan stand with my Dad watching that Cavan Meath match in 84. Meath emerged from that competition to dominate football for a long time.

Agree with you on PJ Carroll as Last real official Cavan manager
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 22, 2006, 11:49:01 AM
Best of luck to all my Cavan pals in the new year.

I'll be shipping in a turkey to Cavan again this Christmas as I bring Christmas cheer (and dinner) to those more unfortunate ..
(i.e less willing to pay for it !)
 ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 22, 2006, 12:00:49 PM
A turkey from Derry? It's not Enda Muldoon is it? ;D

Happy Christmas Lynchbhoy, we know you're a Cavan wannabe at heart!

Re: Pat Faulkner and co, you're right that this side underachieved slightly. I remember Faulkner at no.14 against Moanaghan in '86, fisted two points in that 0-12 to 0-10 victory. I still recall the Irish Press backpage screamer headline the next day - CAVAN ROCK MONAGHAN. Sweet. That was my first ever championship game and it couldn't have been better even if I didn't understand too much about it all at the time.

I don't remember Jim Reilly too much to be honest.But I recall John Brady from Laragh playing two absolute stormers in the league quarter-final and semi-final in '89, that team really looked to have potential but as usual, when championship came around it just didn't happen for us.

King in his prime, Reilly too, Pat Faulkner, the lads off the All-Ireland final U21 team....we shoulda been contenders. Let's hope history doesn't keep perpetuating itself.

Up Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 22, 2006, 12:02:43 PM
A turkey from Derry? It's not Enda Muldoon is it? ;D

Happy Christmas Lynchbhoy, we know you're a Cavan wannabe at heart!
I have been bringing Christmas to Cavan for the past two years.
thats what you get when you marry one!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on December 22, 2006, 12:26:14 PM
The Biggest Turkey I can think of from Derry would have to be the big and bould Geffory McGonigel.  I can't imagine how big he is now. Is he still playing? He'd never fit in the oven.

Cavan Maniac,
That would have been Mickey Faulkner that was scoring the points? Always played at number 14.
Pat always played corner back / wing back. He was Merciless. He invented the phrase "they shall not pass".

Remember that head line as well!! Freaky.

Happy Christmas to all

Ho Ho Ho
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 22, 2006, 12:30:06 PM
Cavan Maniac,
That would have been Mickey Faulkner that was scoring the points? Always played at number 14.

And I knew when typing it I was making that mistake but just ignored it and typed it anyway. ALWAYS get these guys mixed up! ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 22, 2006, 12:43:56 PM
Hope u guys don't eat 2 much turkey over xmas the first round of league games are the 18th feb so go easy on the food and the pints!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 22, 2006, 01:35:05 PM
18th February  :o
Bollox
i wasnt going to bother starting training this year til the end of Janurary.........
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 22, 2006, 03:27:24 PM
Well lads, off home after work in a few minutes. Have a good christmas and hopefully we'll have a good year of the football. BTW, any of you ever visit the http://www.breifne.ie/ website. It is a tourism thing and nothing to do with football, but there is loads of stuff about the old kingdom, which we were in the heart of, that you never get thought about anymore sadly. I spent a good hour on it the other night reading through.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 22, 2006, 03:38:29 PM
Happy Christmas Myles....
Happy Christmas to
all other Cavan Posters(Lynchbhoy as well  ;D )
Cant wait to finish work at 5.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 22, 2006, 03:44:22 PM
Well I'm forking off right now and won't be seen near a PC until early January, so until then happy Christmas to all Cavan folk, and gaels everywhere. Except Meath. And Monaghan. And Longford. Oh, and Westmeath. Fermanagh and Tyrone while I'm about it.

Ah feck it, Happy Christmas to everyone no matter where, see yis all next year ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 22, 2006, 07:11:02 PM
The Biggest Turkey I can think of from Derry would have to be the big and bould Geffory McGonigel.  I can't imagine how big he is now. Is he still playing? He'd never fit in the oven.

Cavan Maniac,
That would have been Mickey Faulkner that was scoring the points? Always played at number 14.
Pat always played corner back / wing back. He was Merciless. He invented the phrase "they shall not pass".

Remember that head line as well!! Freaky.

Happy Christmas to all

Ho Ho Ho

Naw man, there are far bigger turkeys in Derry.
Yous would have played Geoff if yez had him - pity Derry wouldnt in those days.

Were the Faulkeners from Kingscourt

happy Christmas all you Cavan folk.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 23, 2006, 05:05:11 PM
Am I the only Cavan man that posts to this thread in his own time???

Happy christmas one and all. Jim Reilly was indeed a classy footballer. Irish Indo had one of these filler articles a year or two ago, best all star team never to win all stars if you get my meaning and Jim was on there at wing half back. Not sure that life has been all that kind to him since which is a pity. Think it was the 78 Ulster final that we may have taken a double beating in, minor and senior. Minor team included Jim, Donal Donohue, Ray Cullivan, well trounced by somebody or other although I remember a screamer of a goal being scored for Cavan by, I think, Aidan Tierney of Kingscourt Stars, the Stars had some serious underage talent around those times. That same year we took a good beating from Down in the senior final and a few things stand out. I think it was the year that Ollie Texas Brady got his all star, a bit controversially since Kevin Moran of Dublin was also in the running for the Number 6 spot. The Late Michael O Hehir in his preview that day had the headline that the outcome to the game lay "Deep in the Heart of Texas". Ollie took em on single handed as I recall and was being roared on from the hill in Clones. Come the last ten minutes we were well bet and Texas had run out of Steam. Gowan Texas went a forlorn breffni voice as he want on one more maraude up the park to which a droll down Voice replied "yiz need a few more Texans out there lads" . Also remember that prize p***k Adge King trying to launch a physical attack on Liam Austin, no less, with few boxes to the ribs, no attempt to play the ball at all, Austin nearly fell around laughing at him. Adge's weight division for acting the maggot was no higher than youngsters in club matches as he was to prove in a county final a few years later.

Maniac, your first championship fixture against the Mushroom pickers in 86??? surprised I thought you might have been around a bit longer................you certainly have stuck it out through thin and thin, the day we started making headlines for giving what once was a routine beating to that lot. Somebody else spoke about the centenary semi final in 84 against the rials, christ it was tough going coming back through Kells and Navan that night. Abiding memory was Kevin Carney of Cootehlill (all 10 stones of him) coming on towards the end and going in on Mick Lyons, enough said.

Seasons greetings all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on December 24, 2006, 01:22:16 AM
Well lads, off home after work in a few minutes. Have a good christmas and hopefully we'll have a good year of the football. BTW, any of you ever visit the http://www.breifne.ie/ website. It is a tourism thing and nothing to do with football, but there is loads of stuff about the old kingdom, which we were in the heart of, that you never get thought about anymore sadly. I spent a good hour on it the other night reading through.
It's funny you should bring that up myles, a few months ago a big sign was erected at Knockbeg (on the N17 between Ballinacarrow and Collooney) indicating your entry to "Breifne", and no-one knew what it was for. Same sign was on the Ballymote-Tubber road. That site has cleared it up now, think the ruins featured on the site's homepage are the ruins just off the Collooney/Ballygawley road. Would never have thought that we would have had any linkage with Breffni, turns out we're on its windowledge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 24, 2006, 07:04:10 PM
Is that Kevin Carney the reporter?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 24, 2006, 08:35:54 PM
the very same one bb, if you can imagine somebody, lilke, say Jelly Johnston one year out of minor being sent on in the last ten minutes when the game is well lost and, guess what, congratulations, you have the honour of going in on the bone cruncher that was Mick Lyons you get the general picture. The sort of thing that stays with you for a while.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 24, 2006, 10:32:22 PM
Didn't know Carney was a good footballer in his day...

Wonder does he do much for the Celt?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on January 02, 2007, 11:12:45 AM
Anyone know (Or guess) what the Cavan Team will be for next sunday v Derry?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 02, 2007, 04:43:09 PM
CavanCola,

To be honest I have no idea what the team will look like but I would love to see the following players on the team just so I can see some of the terrible injury luck we have had relapse a bit...

Gerald Pierson
Mark McKeever
Michael Lyng
Darren Rabbitte

I'd also like to see McCabe at FF and also see if there is any sort of forward strategy being worked on to get ball into these players. On paper a Johnson, McCabe and Pierson FF line looks good to me.

Then I am praying that we see someone around the middle take up the slack that McCabes fielding will leave behind and also that we get a dedicated free taker on the team and quit this messing we've been at for the last few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 03, 2007, 12:12:22 PM
Posted by never kickt a ball over in the McKenna Cup thread:

Cavan boss performs major surgery

Saturday, December 30

New Cavan manager Donal Keoghan has performed major surgery on his Senior football panel with just 17 of last year’s squad set to feature in the upcoming campaign.

Of Martin McElkennon’s 2006 squad eight high-profile footballers have either been dropped, opted out or retired - Pauric Reilly, Cathal Collins, Anthony Gaynor, James Reilly (Drung), Eddie O’Reilly (Mullahoran), Finbarr O’Reilly and Michael Brides.

Gaynor is travelling in Australia and will be away for at least three months, while James Reilly is taking a year out as he is unable to give the necessary commitment.

Peter Reilly is retired, and the other five have been dropped.

A further seven panellists have been let go by Keoghan - Michael Brennan, Dermot McGlade, Eamonn O’Reilly (Shannon Gaels), Enda King, Dermot Sheridan, Martin Lynch and Joey Jordan.

*****

With the exceptions of Ballinagh duo Pauric Reilly and Anthony Gaynor (who will hopefully come back for championship), I either wouldn't know or wouldn't shed any tears about the others that have been let go - provided the replacements have a realistic chance of being better and inproving the team.

Deep breath lads. Here goes for Keogan and Grimley this weekend. We'll probably be flying fit and mad for road so don't be surprised if we win...although historically, we do tend to embarrass ourselves on television...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 03, 2007, 03:50:16 PM
Just a little bit of news for yous.

Gaynor is back home next Thursday (10th).

The Cavan seniors played the u21s last weekend in Templeport, seniors won by 6. Full-forward line was Pierson, Sean Brady, Jelly. With Brady moving out as a third midfielder (his role with UCD). Didn't hear much else from the teams but if I do i'll let you's know.

And last but not least

Top GAA Manager Faces 12 Criminal Charges


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 03, 2007, 04:10:42 PM
Also forgot to mention but training is suppose to be the most unmerciful since the days of Austin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 03, 2007, 04:21:03 PM
Also forgot to mention but training is suppose to be the most unmerciful since the days of Austin
I thought the training under austin was too easy ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 03, 2007, 04:25:59 PM
Also forgot to mention but training is suppose to be the most unmerciful since the days of Austin
I thought the training under austin was too easy ?
Don't remember much from them days but I thought the team got rid of him because they couldn't hack the training
I may have picked that up wrong  :-X
It wouldn't be unlike me to get things backwards
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cromagh on January 03, 2007, 04:26:51 PM
Sounds like Keoghan is not a manager that will gain respect....up in court facing charges.....Maybe McElkennon n cassidy werent that bad after all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 03, 2007, 04:53:01 PM
Ah no, they were that bad, just not in the criminal sense...

I've heard training is absolutely punitive as well, as Keogan and Grimley opt for a Ger-Loughnanesque separate the men from the boys-type approach. But sure you hear that every time a new man takes over, let's wait and see.

Great news that Gaynor is home so early. I was afraid he'd be away for months and if he wasn't training or looking after himself he'd strike me as a lad that'd take a while to get his sharpness back.

As for Austin there was some rumour that the training wasn't hard enough, that's what I recall. The team were reckoning they hadn't been trained hard enough by comparison with what it took to achieve success under wee Martin. Interestingly, we might not have been too far behind under Austin.

We showed good character to pip Fermanagh in the 1998 first round and opened up playing like men possessed against Donegal, only for the ref to spend the last 50 minutes effectively apologising to Donegal for a harsh sending off by giving them every marginal decision afterwards and some not so marginal at all. I think Tony Boyle won more dodgy frees that day than ever before or since in one game with Terry Farrelly in particular being unable to lay a finger on an opponent without being whistled for it.

A very frustrating day and it's been practically all downhill from there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 03, 2007, 05:13:06 PM
thas what was said at he time - not that the training was too hard but
the players 'revolted' as they believe the training was not near hard enough under austin.

the mchugh regieme had them puking their rings up at each session and they won the ulster title
so they thought that this was the way to go

now with two lame reillys (Peter and Larry) and a full time hospital case in McCabe to name but three off that panel
it looks like that was indeed far too much training
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cromagh on January 03, 2007, 06:26:07 PM
Bottom line is that Cavan are not good enough. You can do all the traininig you want but when a group of losers like there is in Cavan at the minute get the heat turned up on them they melt and quit. Hence the reason why Cassidy was not liked!! wait until big Grimley starts telling a few home truths they will run him out of town as well
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 03, 2007, 11:41:58 PM
The Reason Liam Austin was sacked as manager is because the Players thought his training wasnt hard enough.....

I must say Eddie Reily and Michael Brennan being out of the panel is a bit of a suprise to me...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 04, 2007, 12:03:28 AM
Mad Eddie can't be faulted for effort, or passion and application, but if we are seriously contemplating having him as one of our forward options then it's a sad reflection on Cavan football. He got his chance, gave his all but one salad day apart in the league against poor opposition, the guy just doesn't have it for this level.

In some games he was actually clattering his own players in his over exuberance and people were actually laughing at him. I don't know if he could have been fashioned into a more polished performer in time but on the basis of what I've seen so far, I'd seriously doubt it. Plus there's always the lingering fear that he'd clock someone in a big game and get the line. Maybe at some point down the road, but like I said, I can't see it happening and with Pierson, Jelly, Mackey, McCabe, Lyng and others all hopefully available, Eddie is very surplus. He wouldn't have got near the panel in alot of other counties.

Mickey Brennan I think might be getting a slightly raw deal though. He too gave everything in last year's league only to be discarded for the fat boys brigade when summer came. He's very limited too but I'd have held onto him as a decent enough sub who could come on late in games, run at the opposition with his strength and pace and win a few frees or something.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 04, 2007, 08:55:22 AM
Unmerciful training would sound about right with Grimley as coach... It will reap rewards tho, so long as him and keoghan get the lads respect and not the 'talking behind the back syndrome'.. .. :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 04, 2007, 01:10:47 PM
Has the Cavan panel been announced yet for the McKenna Cup? I see you reckon mad eddie and Brennan are of the panel. Poor auld Brennan is getting a very raw deal. He was even previewed on Hogan Stand there last week I think. Anyone making the trip to Celtic Park? Can't go myself, have to go and look at a new car in the big smoke. Will probably try and catch it somewhere on TG4.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 04, 2007, 01:22:49 PM
Forty grand, thats a bit steep. Sure you dont want to add on a bit more,say lets go for the round 50.  You sound like someone who is into conspiracy theories, he wasn't even the manager. Why does Cavan have thsi tag of being big payers, they cant be any better or worse than most other counties. This is gaelic football not the premiership. Maybe its because we have nothing else to talk about because our football team is so poor.

Lads are we happy that somelike Keogan is in charge. Hes up in court on many charges, personally I am just embarrassed to think hes our county manager

Cavan have the most active GAA fund raising committees in Ireland
the Dublin branch were forever holding events to raise money.
Far from the stereotype
Kildare were also up there in getting big cash together - but theirs was mostly through the supporters club and private sponsorships - most of this went on mick odwyer.They aren't generating the same kind of money these days.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on January 04, 2007, 01:35:39 PM
Quote from: Thatstheball
Why does Cavan have thsi tag of being big payers, they cant be any better or worse than most other counties.

I think Cavan spent something like €1 million last year on the county team. The figures were in the Celt the week before last in the County Convention report.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 04, 2007, 04:03:23 PM
Cavan Senior Football panel for the McKenna Cup

Shane Sheridan(Lacken)
Thomas Corr(Denn)
Darren Rabbitte(Cavan Gaels)
Keith Fannin(Drumgoon)
Paul Brady(Mullahoran)
Nicholas Walsh(Cavan Gaels)
Declan McCabe(Crosserlough)
Jonatan Crowe(Crosserlough)
Eamonn Reily(Cavan Gaels)
Thomas Wakely(Kingscourt)
Michael McDonald(Drumgoon)
Lorcan Mulvey(Buttlersbridge)
Alan Clarke(Kingscourt)
Donal Thomas(Killygarry)
Dermot McCabe(Gowna)
Anthony Forde(Cavan Gaels)--missing from Derry game as he just got married
Mark McKeever(Gowna)
Michael Brennan(Drumalee)
Michael Cunningham(Swanlinbar)
Cian Mackey(Castlerahan)
Gerald Pierson(Gowna)
Jason O Reily(Belturbet)
Martin Reily(Killygarry)
Sean Brady(Castlerahan)
Enda McCormack(Drumalee)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 04, 2007, 05:57:31 PM
Anglo Celt mate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 04, 2007, 07:18:53 PM
I see Micheal Brennan is named in that panel, so is he in or not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 04, 2007, 07:42:37 PM
I'm telling you what I heard said by people who would be well informed.

Junior club managers are on 80 quid a night, two or three nights a week. What are seniuor inter county managers on? Twice that? Five times a week (including matches)?

That's 800 a week into their hand straight off, if it stops there. This is at least nine/ten months of the year remember, so you're looking at 30k cash straight off (personally I know for certain McElkennon/Cassidy had more than this each).

Add to that expenses/ meals/ gear/ free car/ free mobile phone...

You do the maths here. It's a joke but that's the way football has gone. Cavan are as fanatical as nay county, have as good a support and therefore are one of the highest payers.

On your other point...

Do you really live in the middle of Cavan? Do you really know "the Gaels lads"? OH MY GOD!!! Any chance of an autograph? Could you arrange a signed picture even?

 :D :D :D

Look, this is Cavan, it's not exactly a metropolis. If you play football, go to third level with a couple of footballers, went to St Pats etc then of course you'd know a good few lads on the county panel. Just don't be letting on to be Mr Informed!



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: liihb on January 05, 2007, 10:17:34 AM
Sorry Lads, a little of topic here, but do any of ye know did Cavan reach an Ulster final with Val Andrews at the helm, and if so (and I think so!) what year? Settle a little bet for me
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2007, 10:22:56 AM
Sorry Lads, a little of topic here, but do any of ye know did Cavan reach an Ulster final with Val Andrews at the helm, and if so (and I think so!) what year? Settle a little bet for me

Andrews did indeed bring them to an Ulster final. It was 2001 against Tyrone we lost by 2 points
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: liihb on January 05, 2007, 10:31:33 AM
Thanks Homer
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2007, 11:22:47 AM
From Hoganstand

Crozier includes three Newcomers

Derry manager Paddy Crozier has named three debutants in his side for Sunday’s McKenna Cup meeting with Cavan.

Kieran McIver, Aidan McAlynn and Raymond Wilkinson are given their first competitive starts and are joined in the side by established stars such as Barry Gillis, Paddy Bradley, Kevin McGuckin and Patsy Bradley.

Wilkinson is included at wing forward after impressing in Ballinderry’s recent Ulster club championship campaign, while another Ballinderry man, Conleth Gilligan, makes a return to inter-county action after a year-long absence. County hurler and former All-Ireland minor winner Ruairi Convery is named at left half forward.

Derry (SF v Cavan): B Gillis; M McGoldrick, K McGuckin, J Keenan; P Cartin, K McIver, A McAlynn; J Diver, Patsy Bradley; R Wilkinson, C Gilligan, R Convery; J Kelly, Paddy Bradley, A McCartney.

--A lot of big names missing for them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 05, 2007, 12:31:58 PM
OK Thats the Ball, I bow to your superior knowledge. What were McElkennon and Cassidy getting as a matter of interest?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 05, 2007, 12:45:46 PM
If that panel is from the Celt you'd have to assume, as far as you can assume when it's the Celt, that it's correct. So I'm wondering where's the famous Rory Gallagher, he was supposed to be training with the panel and was supposed to be flying fit as well, so I can't think why he wouldn't be there if the whole thing hadn't been called off? Is he injured maybe? Caused a row already?

It also looks like stories of Pearse McKenna's return to the panel are wide of the mark, unless he's sitting out this competition, ironically.

Lyng's not on it either but I'm happy about that...in fact I'd use him very sparingly until maybe the last three league matches and maybe only as a sub in those games too. He's had a bad trot of terrible injuries and needs wrapping in cotton wool.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 12:58:01 PM
Has Rory Gallagher's transfer application gone in and also been approved yet?

I heard he was still knocking about our club and there is talk that he might be training our minors today...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 05, 2007, 12:59:48 PM
Is he coming to play for a club in Cavan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 05, 2007, 01:00:00 PM
Lynchbhoy has it correct
Gallaghers transfer hasnt gone through yet...
Thats the reason he isnt listed
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2007, 01:02:15 PM
I heard Gallagher's transfered to Crosserlough and that he's taking over "The Pub" in Kilnaleck, don't know how true this is tho.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 01:09:16 PM
Is he coming to play for a club in Cavan?
Very hazy on this, but I dont think you can play county unless you play for a club in the county (or hail from the county)

but this whole scenario is breaking new ground...(it differs from any of the previous transfers I recall as lads traditionally would move to the area from their home club & county, transfer to the new club and then play county - pauraic brogan/declan darcy)

I heard that Gallagher was going to some club in the (south)  ballyduff/kilanleck/mullahoran cavan region (and its none of them apparantly)
but my source hasnt a clue about the clubs in her own area and thus the info was wasted and couldnt give me the fecking name

again it could be just idle rumour and he goes to the gaels
cant see anyone in their right mind going to the denn

although the club he is mooted to be joining has a selector/financial backer of the cavan county team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 01:11:43 PM
I heard Gallagher's transfered to Crosserlough and that he's taking over "The Pub" in Kilnaleck, don't know how true this is tho.

you know I forgot to mention the club 'crosserlough' and reeled in most of the other ones in the region
I wonder if she would have remembered the club name if I had called it out
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2007, 01:37:48 PM
I was talkin to a man from Kilnaleck yesterday and he wouldn't have the first clue about football and he told me some guy from Fermanagh was taken over The Pub, I asked if it was hardly a Gallagher fella, and he said it was  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 01:39:26 PM
I was talkin to a man from Kilnaleck yesterday and he wouldn't have the first clue about football and he told me some guy from Fermanagh was taken over The Pub, I asked if it was hardly a Gallagher fella, and he said it was  ??? ??? ???

what is it about you folk from round Bellinagh and Kilinaleck - most wouldnt know a football or anything thats going on in the local sides...

really bucks the trend in Cavan !

 ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2007, 01:50:08 PM
I was talking to a man from Kilnaleck yesterday and he wouldn't have the first clue about football and he told me some guy from Fermanagh was taken over The Pub, I asked if it was hardly a Gallagher fella, and he said it was  ??? ??? ???

what is it about you folk from round Bellinagh and Kilinaleck - most wouldnt know a football or anything thats going on in the local sides...

really bucks the trend in Cavan !

 ;)

I was only putting it like that because I don't know why this fella would have that story if it wasn't true because he wouldn't have a notion who Raymond Gallagher was  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 05, 2007, 02:02:07 PM
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cant see anyone in their right mind going to the denn

Why's that?

They're a solid senior league club and got to the last four of the senior championship in 2005 I think
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 02:17:26 PM
I was talking to a man from Kilnaleck yesterday and he wouldn't have the first clue about football and he told me some guy from Fermanagh was taken over The Pub, I asked if it was hardly a Gallagher fella, and he said it was  ??? ??? ???

what is it about you folk from round Bellinagh and Kilinaleck - most wouldnt know a football or anything thats going on in the local sides...

really bucks the trend in Cavan !

 ;)

I was only putting it like that because I don't know why this fella would have that story if it wasn't true because he wouldn't have a notion who Raymond Gallagher was  :-\

I think I found the only family in Cavan to marry into that are not clued into football at all - unusual as there are usually 'some' in a famly that would have some passing interest
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 02:20:24 PM
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cant see anyone in their right mind going to the denn

Why's that?

They're a solid senior league club and got to the last four of the senior championship in 2005 I think

a nice club
but unless they have some serious underage talent coming through they are always going to be outsiders to win anything
and its only usually the 'sexy' big shot clubs that outsiders (high profile ones) join

ok crosserlough if its true also goes against the grain, but I expect this is a money thing
its always the gaels and maybe gowna possibly crosserlough and maybe kingscourt/bailboro (when they are going well) that can attract them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 05, 2007, 04:12:38 PM
Yeah actually, good shout, I'd have him in there as well. Throw in the fact that he's a Denn man and his absence is a puzzle alright, but then again at this time of year with team holidays and taking breaks, the panel is always a bit up in the air. Besides I've just found out you can rotate five new players in and out of the squad from game to game in the McKenna Cup, to aid experimentation, so I wouldn't be too bothered about who's there or not just yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 05, 2007, 05:15:49 PM
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its always the gaels and maybe gowna possibly crosserlough and maybe kingscourt/bailboro (when they are going well) that can attract them

Did Gowna/Crosserlough/Kingscourt/Baiileboro have any high profile imports in recent years?

B'boro had Pat Fallon I think anyway. Kingscourt had Raymond Cunninghakm but he was more or less a Kingscourt man anyway, lived in the parish and won several handball All Irelands with the Kingscourt club and for Cavan.

Who did Gowna get?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 05, 2007, 06:47:24 PM
i cant remember Gowna getting any blow ins i must say....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2007, 07:44:50 PM
i cant remember Gowna getting any blow ins i must say....

what about Gowna gettin yer man Gunner from Mullahoran  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 09:14:37 PM
no no lads, thats not what I menat
apologies for misleading

I meant that these were the top clubs that would be most attractive to outsiders thinking of transferring in
not that they had already attracted players

though mullahoran got a couple along with bealin a couple of years ago did they not?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 05, 2007, 09:32:54 PM
the got a Maguire fella from Fermanagh he was a good footballer...who did they get along with Bealin?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 09:36:32 PM
the got a Maguire fella from Fermanagh he was a good footballer...who did they get along with Bealin?
from memory I thought there was bealin and some other chap transferred in with him
cant remember , prob wouldnt know who it was anyway - just something in the back of my mind tells me I heard there was A N Other.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 07, 2007, 06:49:12 PM
Posting pattern on this thread does little to give lie to the fact that we are tight arsed gits. Hopefully you will get back to your employers/state sponsored internet links in the morning to post relentlessly about todays game. Happy new year one and all.

Anyway, ignoring all the reasons for taking todays game with a pinch of salt there is nothing negative that I could see, from my armchair mind you, apart from Rabbitte's injury, which hopefully is not serious. One week into the new year and a performance that beats anything that was put in last year, league or championship.

No doubt there will be major analysis/comment when we open for business tomorrow. Only one comment on my part and that's about a player that figured in nobodys predictions for the year ahead, it being our most troublesome position-Lorcan Mulvey. Has shed a fair few pounds, got around the park a lot, broke up attacks, set up a number of attacks, kicked a few lovely scores. Finally, on a few occasions betrayed an attitude of taking shit from NOBODY.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 07, 2007, 08:12:57 PM
Il give my analysis of the game(From TV btw i didnt take the trip down to CP)

1.Colm Anderson.....massive kickouts....good shot stopping displayed in the second half.....
Only mishap was coming and failing to get a ball,Micky Brennan almost put into his own net...
But overall good.

2.Martin Cahill.........he was marking Conleth Gilligan Derrys cheif playmaker...Gilligan didnt score from play,Cahill pulled ragged,and put himself out for every ball...a great defensive performance by the Denn Man.

3.Darren Rabbitte......................Him going off was a blow...as Paddy Bradley ran rings around Chesty from that time up until just before half time when Fannin was switched over....i Hope its not serious...Rabbitte is key to us doing well this year.

4.Keith Fannin.......moved onto Bradley just before half time...and whilst he struggled at first,soon came into his own and done well on the Derry Star in the seconf half..

5.Eamon Reily.........Not Chesty's best game,but he stuck at it.. and battled away....he got skinned by Bradley,but hes not alone in having that done to him.

6.Nicholas Walsh... a new position for Walshe and in my opinion he done very well.....Could be the big stopper we need for CHB....

7.Jonathan Crowe...The Crosserlough man a more renowned Centre Forward had a quiet enough game,yet looked good on the ball and helped set up a few scores in the second half...id like to see him get a go at CHF.

8.Dermot McCabe....outstanding...covered alot of ground...much lighter at this time of year than he was for the championship last year!!!! if he can be kept injury free and can keep the weight off...hes going to once again be our key man this year....

9.Donal Thomas...done alot of the hard work  in midfield in the first half........battled for everything...will not doubt get another shot against Queens...

10.Michael Cunningham... what  a find...the swad man named man of the match on TG4 was outstanding...kicked 3 or 4 awesome scores from play and his workrate was amazing......could be our first find of the year.

11.Mark McKeever.......outstanding as well....made some great blocks...kicked some good frees,he was involved in everything good Cavan done.

12.Michael Brennan......moved back to Wing back when Rabbite went off...done well i thought...I think it would have made more sense for him to have switched with Johnny Crowe at the start but what do i know?

13.Gerard Pierson.....kicked some good points...But for such a great footballer...he wrecks my head by being behind his man so many times when the ball is played in....was slipping and sliding alot as well....Betters things to come from the Gowna star as the year progresses me thinks...

14.Sean Brady...the UCD star seemed to be playing a withdrawn role...and was in the thick of the action throughout...theres definetely a place for Brady on this Cavan team...whether thats at Full Forward of in the Half forward line i dont know...Kicked a great score.

15.Cian Mackay....Kicked two outstanding points...seems to have bulked up alot from his minor days which is great to see...can overplay the ball at times...But that will leave his game in time...

Subs
Lorcan Mulvey.....Absolutely immense...would have been my choice for man of the match....as you said Anglocelt hes in better condition this year.....Very mobile for such a big man,great workrate,outstanding kicker of a score...and an ignorant f**ker to add :D
i enjoyed watching him run straight through the derry boys leaving them flat on their asses.

Jayo........kicked a marvelous point when he came on,missed two goal scoring chances...but we will forgive him for that......

Not sure if any subs came on,Thought i seen a number 19 or so warming up...didnt recognise him suprisingly...as id have proclaimed myself beforehand as being able to tell who all the panel members were.....


One word of warning of course... we looked far sharper than Derry...id imagine we have 3/4 weeks more hard training done than them,but all in all im alot more optimistic than i was Last night.

anyone agree/disagree with any of my points...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 07, 2007, 08:53:49 PM
I'm breaking open the piggy bank anglocelt39! ;D

Was very happy after today's game. You probably have to allow for the fact that we were way fitter and sharper than Derry at this stage of the season but there were some very encouraging signs:

1. I have never, and I mean never, witnessed such an accurate display of shooting from any Cavan team. Management have obviously worked hard on confidence etc. to the point that we could kick about 0-13 from play in atrocious conditions with new faces aboard. Extremely encouraging.

2. Heart. We never buckled when Derry came back at us before half time and won pulling up. Spirit in the camp seems good judging by the togetherness after final whistle.

3. Work rate. Keogan said it afterwards. We ran ourselves silly on a very tough day. It looks like the guys have really pulled their socks up and are already a world away from the disaffected rabble we watched last year.

4. New players like Cunningham doing well, and Mackey, Sean Brady, McKeever, McCabe, Jayo, Cahill etc. - but hats off to Lorcan Mulvey. f**k me. He was brushing men out of his way like he was swiping cobwebs. Brilliant to see someone with a bit of brute force and ignorance, we've been too f**king nice for too long and someone needed to let that hallion Doherty that he wasn't going to get away with the rough suff. Kicked some nice scores, handled a lot of ball, was a close runner for my man of the match in the end.

Anyway, it's only January and at this stage you couldn't look for much more. With Gaynor, Forde, Gunner to come back into the defence we have the nucleus of a side that at least will give its all and give value if it keeps the attitude right - and that's all we can ask. Rabbitte's injury was a low point but I think it's a hamstring and not the knee thank God, he's an important player for us this year as someone already said. I'd be very worried about the defence if he's not there, we were creaking a bit at times there today especially chesty on Bradley and Fannin struggled at times too - but then again, Bradley does that to all kinds of defenders.
Sure we're off and running anyway and there's encouraging signs. Nothing to get carried away with but at least it looks like we'll be supporting a tuned-in team giving their all and sure that's something anyway. Bigger tests against fitter teams await but if they're busting a gut for the blue shirt then I don't think any of us are going to be too hard on the lads if the results aren't all like today's.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 07, 2007, 09:22:56 PM
Alright lads, it was a good performance but lets not get too excited. We were much fitter than Derry on the day and maybe a good bit hungrier too. On the positive side the shooting was good, the work rate was good and we won midfield comfortably. McCabe looking fit was a bit of a shock and good to see, his passing was brilliant today. Also, nice to see a new face doing so well in Michael Cunningham. On the negative Rabbitte going off injured was a blow. It looked like a hamstring so your probably talking 4-6 weeks for that to heal. For me mackey is still too light and is easily bottled up, also he made some poor decisions and held onto the ball a bit too much. Maybe in the good weather he will excel.  Mckeever played well but missed three scorable frees and so we are still struggling for a free taker on the rh side. I know we are also looking for a bit more aggression but don't mistake disent for trying to play the hard man. We were lucky on a few occassions that frees weren't turned against us for silly pushing and messing after the ref has blown. Aggression needs to be channeled correctly and 'after the whistle' aggression just undos good work. All in all a good day and i even had a tenner on cavan at 12-5 on paddy powers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 07, 2007, 09:47:36 PM
Not a bad weekends football for the boys in blue. The u21s beat Roscommon on Saturday 0-13 to 0-08 didn't make it myself but heard it was a convining performance.

Team that started was

1.   ?
2.   Declan Gallen
3.   Padraic O'Reilly
4.   Fergal Slowey
5.   Finbar Jordan
6.   Dermot Sheridan
7.   Cormac Geoghan
8.   John Cunningham
9.   Micheal McDonald
10. Raymond Cullivan
11. Alan Clarke
12. Paraic Smith
13. Martin Reilly
14. Anton Reilly
15. Killian Lynch

Apparently in defense Podge and Slowey cleaned up, McDonald lorded it at midfield (will push for a place on the senior team this year). Martin Reilly looked sharp up front, Clarke played clever but Anton was his usual lazy self (Although he does put it in on the big day).

As regards the senior boys, a fantastic display in bad conditions and as we heard from reports on the Laois challenge match Cavan look a big and physical outfit this year. I think I counted 7 lads today that would usually feature as midfielders.

Walsh
McCabe
Crowe
Thomas
Brennan
S Brady
Mulvey

As mentioned Cunnigham and Mulvey immense. But I would have put my house on Jayo bagging one of those chances. All in all very encouraging stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 07, 2007, 10:05:56 PM
Is that a much altered U21 team, there must be a few other first choices to come back on to it?

I must admit I've never heard of this McDonald lad but he has a big reputation alright, can anyone tell me a bit more about him?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 07, 2007, 11:14:06 PM
The McDonald lad is huge, all the way up in underage he was as awkward a footballer as you'd ever see.

Seems to have come on a lot, always had great hands but was very raw. Has he matured enough for the seniors? Time will tell....

On today's match, I'd say the lads are fitter now than they were at championship time last year, which is fantastic.

We still have Johnston, Gunner, Gaynor, Larry (?), Gallagher (?) to come into the team among others... Given that we've avoided the big guns in Ulster, could be an interesting year yet!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 08, 2007, 02:25:34 AM
I've have watched McDonald from county u16 up and as Bottom Brick said he use to be very awkward (steering wheel to turn job), We don't play Drumgoon much at club level so I hadn't seen him since minor but he has came on a huge amount and is definite for u21 midfield. He's about 6'4" maybe 5" and well built, I don't know will he make it at senior level this year but if he continues to progress he'll be a fine introduction to the side in the near future.

He kinda reminds me of Ciaran Galligan of Drung who also converted from an awkward lanky lad to a fine footballer two years ago on the u21 team 2 years that lost the Ulster final to Down (but he did drop one short to level it  :'( ). Anyone know why this guy fell of the map?

Geroid Collins is still well off the fitness (Lyng a similar story for the seniors) don't know will he get it back in time. Darragh Gaffeney hasn't turned up this year, pity a very lazy but talented footballer.

Of the team that started on saturday Mackey, Flanagan and Enda McCormack were the bigger names missing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 08, 2007, 10:39:08 AM
Lads dont get carried away, ye beat a division one side last year in the first game of the Mc kenna cup, Fermanagh. Mc Cabe played well in the first half, but he hardly was involved the second half apart from frees, which he ran over to take all the time. Yer fitness was very evident in comparsion to Derry, so the posts on this thread about the work they were doing was accurate. Someone was a bit sore on Pearson, thought he gave Mc Guckian a difficult hour. Cavan really wanted to win this game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 08, 2007, 10:39:46 AM
from a Cavan perspective the new faces (to me anyhow) and talent they displayed augurs well.
Certainly the attitude has changed. McCabes diet and obv desire to knuckle down speaks volumes in itself.
Mulvey certainly looked good from what I saw of him, might be a touch on the heavy side for a full game on hard ground, but he certainly can contribute.
I think a lot of the old guard can be discarded now. Keoghan's appointment seems to have galvanised Cavan.
That keeper has some kick out ! All over the pitch the workrate, the desire to show for and then win the ball set Cavan apart from previous years (I watched it on telly). New men stepping up and being counted. Thats all that could have been asked of cavan yesterday.
Best of luck this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 08, 2007, 10:49:53 AM
it was great to see players putting the ball over the bar from out the field for a change!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 08, 2007, 10:54:41 AM
when you see Jason reilly scoring from outside the 21 from the left hand side with such a beautiful score, you know its your day !
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on January 08, 2007, 11:41:26 AM
Gallagher on brink of Breffni switch

Monday, January 8

Cavan Senior football manager Donal Keoghan has revealed that it is a matter of days before former Fermanagh footballer Rory Gallagher is an official member of the Breffni panel.

Gallagher is currently training with the Breffni Blues following a number of years living and working in the county.

The 28-year-old’s transfer application is being processed by Headquarters at present.

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 08, 2007, 02:47:00 PM
Anyone know why Sean Brady was playing for Cavan yesterday and not UCD?

Also was Hannon playing for DIT in the win over Longford (I think he's still in college there) if so how did he get on?

Does anyone know of any other Cavan players that may have been involved with colleges other than Jelly, Flanagan, Cullivan (DCU) and Podge (NUIG)?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 08, 2007, 02:51:36 PM
I dont know how many of you were at the McKenna Cup game with Fermanagh last year.... but McCabe was in very good physical condition like he is now...and lorded it at Midfield that day...Then he got injured for most of the league and put the weight on that hampered him last year
I hope to God he can stay injury free this year.....
The Cunningham family from swad will be well represented on the county this year...
Michael on the seniors
John on the under 21's
and Mark on the minors...
i wonder has that been done before in Cavan...
Homer
Ciaran Galligan as his fellow Drungman Cavan4ever can tell you has had an awful time with injuries.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 08, 2007, 03:01:03 PM
I know he picked up injuries just after that u21 final and missed last year because of it, but didn't realise he was still on the sick bed. A pity as he always gave 100% commitment to the cause. Don't think he even drinks just because of football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 08, 2007, 03:05:15 PM
with the injuries hes had,id say it will take him til the summer to recover his fitness.... wouldnt be suprised to see him brought into the county panel at a later stage...especially with the championships likely to start earlier this year which will give him ample time and chances to impress.
very strong looking under 21 team even with it missing a few key players.....
Very strong Full back line...
Ive been Raving about McDonald on here for the last few months....as you guys said probably too raw for the county seniors this year...but a definite on the under 21's in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 08, 2007, 03:08:23 PM
He had groin injury and missed most of last year. He was also ill for a while which prob came from doing to much training.  He is a good club footballer but def not a county senior midfielder at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 08, 2007, 03:13:47 PM
Perhaps not and you know his potential and /or shortcomings better than any of us mate but with the way of Keoghan using Johnny Crowe,Nicko Walsh,Michael Brennan and Mulvey when he came on(all midfield type players) in other positions...there could be a place for him in the half forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 08, 2007, 03:16:14 PM
I wouldn't have him midfield anyway, a wing-forward I rekon is his most likely position.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 08, 2007, 03:30:06 PM
yeah true keoghan is expermenting with alot of midfielders in different positions, but i reckon there are alot of lads ahead of him.  Nobody will try harder than him anyway.  It's good 2 see some big men playing for cavan thats what is needed. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 08, 2007, 10:43:48 PM
It's amazing how one win with a bit of style and passion lifts the mood! But remember lads, it's only January and we're clearly very fit which tilts the balance our way quite alot at this stage of the year. Lots to be positive about for sure, but let's keep the ould feet on the ground and cast our minds back to how low we sunk last year - alot of hard work still to be done and there'll surely be some bad days as well as good supporting this team in the next few months.

But sure we can smile for now anyway.

This Donal Thomas lad - looks a big bruiser but not sure he'll make the summer cut based on Sunday even though it's very early to judge him...is he a Denn man or where did he come from?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 08, 2007, 10:58:06 PM
Donal Thomas is from Killygarry nice footballer and a nice fella but don't think he's up to the standard come championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 09, 2007, 12:25:28 PM
Millers Back  ;D ;D ;D

Former All-Star nominee goalkeeper James Reilly has rejoined the Cavan senior football squad.

Ahead of the Breffni Blues’ second round McKenna Cup clash with Queens University at Kingspan/Breffni Park on Sunday next, Reilly’s return will come as a boost to new Cavan boss Donal Keoghan.

Reilly is due to attend training tonight (Tuesday), thus ending his decision to opt out of football for 2007.

The 24 year old was nominated for an All-Star award in 2005, when Martin McElkennon was in charge of Cavan, but lost out to Diarmuid Murphy for the gong.

The expert shot-stopper was instrumental in helping Cavan reach the last 12 of the All-Ireland SFC in ’05 and has reacted positively to Donal Keoghan’s overtures.

-From the hoganstand
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on January 09, 2007, 12:29:21 PM
I see on Aertel next weekends match with Queens has a 6:30 start Saturday evening.

Should be a decent crowd following the Sundays positive start to the new year.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 09, 2007, 01:10:42 PM
Bit of a turnaround by Reilly but good to have him back - provided he does the training. He looked a bit out of shape and disinterested last year after a superb debut season the year before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 09, 2007, 03:06:35 PM
who was in goal for the cavan under 21s last saturday anyone know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 09, 2007, 03:10:39 PM
I think I heard it was Andrew Smith of Cornafean.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 09, 2007, 03:20:34 PM
oh right. what club does geoghan play for? and this padraig smith fella?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 09, 2007, 03:24:42 PM
Geoghan is another Cornafean man (don't think either of these boys will be required in March) and Pariac 'Lukey' Smith is from Castlerahen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 09, 2007, 04:42:57 PM
Good start to the season for U-21 side

Cavan U-2 footballers started the new season in impressive fashion when on Saturday 6th January at Our Lady of Lourdes Park in Mullahoran they defeated Roscommon in the opening round of this season’s Hastings Cup competition, winning a very competitive game on a scoreline of 0-13 to 0-9.

The home side started the game in determined fashion and after almost 20 minutes play were ahead by 0-4 to 0-1. Roscommon came more into the game in the second-quarter and at the break they trailed by two points 0-6 to 0-4.

Cavan continued to dominate at the start of the second-half and although the Roscommon side rallied in the closing ten minutes the Cavan side were always in command and held out for a deserved four points win.

Cavan’s next game in this competition is against Longford in Dromard, Co. Longford on this (Saturday) at 12 noon, and the Breffni side will be hoping to build on their winning start.

Cavan – Andrew Smith; Declan Gallon, Paraic Reilly, Fergal Slowey; Finbar Jordan, Dermot Sheridan, Cormac Geoghegan; Michael McDonald (0-1), John Cunningham (0-2); Ray Cullivan (0-6), Alan Clarke, Paraic Smith; Martin Reilly (0-2), Anton Reilly, Cillian Lynch (0-1).
Subs – A. Duignan (0-1) for C. Lynch, R. Galligan for John Cunningham, G. Collins for P. Smith, A. Taite for A. Reilly.

Roscommon – J. Martin; Paul Gleeson, Tom Bannon, Peter Dornian; Sean Higgins, Declan Murphy, David Keenan (0-1); James McDermott (0-2), Emmett Rush; Enda Malley, Brian Lynch, Aaron McEvoy; Aidan Dooley (0-4), Harry Nolan (0-1), Daragh Hussey.
Subs – James Callery (0-1) for Daragh Hussey.

-hoganstand
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 09, 2007, 05:08:23 PM
Did cullivan score most of them from play or free's?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 10, 2007, 11:34:37 AM
Dunno what Cullivan scored from play or not, but he is the left footed free taker alright. I see from the hoganstand he was playing wing half forward for DCU against the Dubs he didn't score and was taken off. Jelly scored 4 (3 from play) at centre-half forward, haven't seen him play there before

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=70856

actually according to gaa page Cullivan went off after 40 mins and came back on at 50 mins for another player (assuming there is no other Cullivans on the panel that is).

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 10, 2007, 11:36:09 AM
Gallagher transfers to Breffni County

The transfer of former Fermanagh star Rory Gallagher to Cavan has been successfully completed, and the star forward may even start against Queens in next weekend's Gaelic Life Dr McKenna Cup clash.

The Breffni Blues take on Queens University Belfast in a Section B tie at Kingspan Breffni Park under floodlights on Saturday evening (throw-in 6.30pm).

28-year-old Gallagher is currently playing his club football with Dublin outfit St Brigid's but he is expected to join a club in Cavan over the coming weeks.

Meanwhile, new Breffni County manager Donal Keoghan will be without Darren Rabbite after the full back damaged his hamstring in the defeat of Derry last weekend at Celtic Park.

Better news for Keoghan is Michael Lyng's return to training after a long-term injury, Anthony Forde's return from honeymoon and James Reilly's commitment to the Senior panel for 2007.

-from gaa.ie

Also look at the thumbnail of miller beside his comeback story on www.gaa.ie (http://www.gaa.ie) I don't know how he gets away with so many foot-blocks.  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 10, 2007, 11:45:34 AM
If everyone stays fit it looks like there will be a battle on for places in the team which hopefully will bring the best out of the lads.  What's your views on these saturday evening games ? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 10, 2007, 12:22:35 PM
Haven't been to a floodlit match in Breffni yet so looking forward to this weekends game, can't really give a general opinion until after that. Queens have a very good side with players of the calibre of Derry's Ger O'Kane, Armagh's Charlie Vernon, Down's Joe Ireland. I'd expect them to be tougher than Derry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 10, 2007, 12:52:13 PM
I wonder will they switch the Tyrone game to a Saturday evening throw-in as well if much of a crowd turns up and we win this one? I'll be knocking about the homestead that weekend it'd be good gas to watch us play Tyrone under lights.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ludermor on January 11, 2007, 02:58:06 PM
i see that Gallagher has signed for crosserlough would they be a club with cash? Is he 'living' near there? As far as i know he is still working in dublin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 11, 2007, 03:38:10 PM
Crosserlough were a onetime major club in Cavan, won a pile of SFC in a row back in the 60s but nothing since. Are always at senior level and make alot of underage finals too, but I think the story is that Gallagher was supposed to be running a pub in that area as well (in this thread somewhere I think).

It's hard to see Crosserlough making an impact at senior level in future championships, with or without Rory Gallagher.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Border Fox on January 11, 2007, 05:35:10 PM
Well Ky auvin men,

I was just wondering how came Mick Brides (Redhill) is off the panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 11, 2007, 06:24:00 PM
Crosserlough were a onetime major club in Cavan, won a pile of SFC in a row back in the 60s but nothing since. Are always at senior level and make alot of underage finals too, but I think the story is that Gallagher was supposed to be running a pub in that area as well (in this thread somewhere I think).

It's hard to see Crosserlough making an impact at senior level in future championships, with or without Rory Gallagher.

would disagree about Crosserlough not making an impact in future championships...they done very poor last year,But that hides the great talent that is within that club.....
Ollie Costello,Dermot Cronin,Mark Lynch,Thomas McEvoy,Johnny Crowe,Pauric McKiernan,Declan McCabe. Declan Gaffney and and John Lyng (Mickeys brother)are all good footballers,   Enda Gaffney is a superstar in the making....and now with Gallagher...the sky is the limit
Not sure if Michael O Rourke is still about he was a very good footballer...
There is a heap of talent in that club...It will just take the right manager to sort them out
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 11, 2007, 06:30:33 PM
Well Ky auvin men,

I was just wondering how came Mick Brides (Redhill) is off the panel?

Bottom Brick being a clubmate of his could surely tell you......

Hes been fucked about by the county for the last 5 years.......Under Mattie Kerrigan he was developing into one of the best half backs in Ulster.....
Not two years later the knobjockeys in charge were bringing him on at wing forward for the last few minutes of the games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on January 11, 2007, 06:35:14 PM
Bottom Brick

 heard a rumour that Brides was transferring to a club in Dublin,  any truth in this ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 12, 2007, 01:05:10 AM
It's still all up in the air lads. Lot of politics going on.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 12, 2007, 09:03:58 AM
Why does he wanna leave redhills anyway?  He is not a very good club man because he wanted to transfer away from them when he first was on county panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 12, 2007, 10:59:11 AM
Brides must hold some sort of record for never kicking a ball and playing inter-county football. I reckon he never 100% recovered from the leg break down in Limerick a few years back, at least his performances never got to the same heights since. I also seen him play for redhills a few times recently enough and he didn't really shine as a county player. Pity.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 12, 2007, 11:26:12 AM
B'haise man...you hit the nail on the head. Crosserlough have had minor teams that have figured at the sharp end of the Minor A championship for a decade and a half but always came short...generally running into the sharp propellers of the Gaels on their record breaking underage run. Still, it would suggest that some very good players have passed through the hands of the mentors down in Kilnaleck, only for nothing of any note to be achieved at senior level.

Look at Martin Donohoe, a star at minor for club and county, played international rules for Ireland (I think I have the right guy here, someone can correct me if not) and was well on the road to being a top player. Now he's shuffling around for Crosserlough Junior Bs I think. There's been too many players like this down the 'Lough way and a succession of bad managers hasn't helped. I don't see it changing anytime soon with teams like Gaels around either...but if they got their act together they'd certainly be competitive.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 12, 2007, 11:59:12 AM
To add on Brides, he looked a helluva prospect then he came on the scene first but I think he was a Val Andrews discovery, not Mattie Kerrigan - because as we all know, fat Matt basically recruited from the U21 sides rather than bother his hole seeking talent anywhere around the county. Open to correction there as always, but don't let the facts get in the way of a dig at Mattie Kerrigan is what I always say. :D

There was great cutting in him, lots of guts, very like Martin Cahill in his tigerish ways. But the leg break finished him completely. His angle of running was way off after it, he seemed to be throwing his leg out when he sprinted and had lost alot of pace. Shame really as he looked to have alot of potential.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Border Fox on January 12, 2007, 12:09:38 PM
There was great cutting in him, lots of guts, very like Martin Cahill in his tigerish ways. But the leg break finished him completely. His angle of running was way off after it, he seemed to be throwing his leg out when he sprinted and had lost alot of pace. Shame really as he looked to have alot of potential.

I went to school with him, and he made the senior cup rugby team in 6th year, more through guts than ability, he was one of those lads who always punched above his weight. He would have worked hard at building himself up, and on his pace. The brother Declan probably would have had more natural ability,  but always seemed to be injured at school.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 13, 2007, 03:04:45 PM
u21s beat Longford today 1-10 to 1-7 team was

Andrew Smith
Emmet Madden
Padraic O'Reilly
Fergal Slowey
Finbar Jordan
Dermot Sheridan
Cormac Geoghan
Pauric Smith
Micheal McDonald
Martin Reilly
Alan Clarke
Anton Reilly
Killian Lynch
Sean McCormack
Raymond Galligan

Smith was at fault for goal, Madden played very poor gave away alot of frees taken off, Fergal Slowey was very good,  Martin Reilly scroed 1-5 nice player, Clarke played well had a very nasty knock at the end may have cracked the knee.

Poor game in awful conditions, lucky to pull through in the end.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 13, 2007, 03:51:16 PM
Homer
i guess its about time the management called Terry Smith up for goals.... why hasnt he been called?
Sean McCormack at full forward  :o
Christ the boy has played in just about every position for us ,Trinity or the county bar Goalkeeper in the last year....
did he get on well?

Id say
when Enda McCormack gets back from injury....
that full back line of Slowey, Podge and him will be set...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 13, 2007, 04:42:21 PM
McCormack was lost at full forward, taken off before half time. I don't know what they were expecting of him.

Terry Smith won't go in as far as I know.

Raymond Galligan should be the keeper come championship great kickout and a fine goalie, if he doesn't make it outfield anyway.

On the mickey brides subject, the lad has never recovered from that injury you only have to watch him run, his leg doesn't move right at all. He still has decent pace but nothing compared to what he had.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on January 13, 2007, 08:09:00 PM
cavan beat QUB by 2pts tonight in McKenna cup
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 13, 2007, 09:50:04 PM
What sort of team had we out I wonder? Hopefully we got a few more minutes into some of the new lads.

I guess this shows that against a team with a good bit of fitness work done, we have our work cut out? Maybe. Hard to read the form at this time of the year. All that's certain is that we have to keep the heads down and keep working, should be an interesting game with the Tyronies next week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 13, 2007, 10:03:37 PM
well as theres training early tommorow...no night out for me... went into freezing Breffini Park,im sure some of you were there as well...so il give my opinions and ratings out of 10 for each player....  Cavan 1-13 Queens 1-11

1.Colm Anderson....Kickouts were ok...the wind was horrible though......im not sure of his abilities under the high ball to be honest...dropped one down and luckily had enough time to grab it again..... 6

2.Martin Cahill....gave away a few stupid frees in the first half but improved dramatically in the second half of the first half and in the second half...drove forward at every oppertunity and kicked a great score in the second half on his left foot. 8

3.Thomas Corr... the Denn man was taken off after 25 minutes...gave the ball away a few times but didnt do anything particularly wrong...wasnt involved in the game very much as Kevin Niblock pulled him out to the half forward line to leave a 2 man full forward line...wasnt on long enough to give a rating..

4.Keith Fannin....Loose like cahill in the early stages,and picked up an unreal amount of ball throughout...Hardworking if nothing spectacular. 7

5.Eamon Reily... Chesty started off fairly sluggishly but grew more confident as the game went on...Looked alot more at home in the half back line than when he was switched into the Full back line against Derry...
His driving Runs up the stand side in the second half were the catalyst to much of Cavans good play. 7

6.Nicholas Walsh....Started at CHB but seemed to be playing around the middle..One marvelous catch in the second half...worked tirelessly throughout...distribution was top class...put himself about a bit and had a bit of a running battle with Charlie Vernon at times...One of Cavans better performers on the day. 8

7.Jonatan Crowe...The Crosserlough man is growing into the half back line...does all the basics correct...always seems to get a hand in to break up a play when he shouldnt,lacking a bit of pace,but when hes lighter and fitter in the summer,wont look out of place at Inter County level....i still think hed be more useful in the forwards though. 7

8.Donal Thomas...tried hard, broke up alot of posession,done the basics right,but not really an impact player....as Brick said..hes not an Inter County Midfielder in my opinion...a good player nonetheless wa sreplaced after about 30 minutes so cant really rate him.

9.Dermot McCabe...f**ked about in Midfield,done little seemingly was hobbling and moved into Full Forward,were he proceeded to roast Daniel McCartan,scored the penalty and set up a few of Pearsons scores. 8

10.Michael Brennan...not a forward...taken off after about 23/24 minutes....needs a chance to claim his position in the backline.

11.Mark McKeever...Kicked a few frees over...and generally worked very hard getting in a few blocks and tackling back well....its good to see hes added this to his game as his wonderful footballing ability is beyond doubt. 8

12.Michael Cunningham...started brightly...won a few frees in the first half by running at the Queens Defence..then went out of the game abit.....Along with Crowe...Hes one of the newcomers that looks that he can have an impact at this level...... 6

13.Cian Mackey....fairly good game,not sure if he got on the scoreline but worked hard..... replaced in the second half 6

14 Sean Brady..... switched with McCabe and was playing Midfield for most of the game...Dont think he has the size for Intercounty Midfield...but held his own nonetheless..nothing spectacular but done ok. 7

15 Gerard Pearson....i criticised him after the Derry game for being behind his man too often...well he was outstanding tonight from frees and from play...showed very well...and tormented one of the Queens Cornerbacks...... scored 7 points i believe with 3 or 4 of them from play. 8

Subs
Lorcan Mulvey for Michael Brennan....Caught a good ball in the first half but looked lost at wing forward...place for him is midfield....done ok though 7

Anthony Forde for Thomas Corr....Forde made many timely interventions when he came on....tackled very well....One of Cavans better players on the night. 8

Paul Brady  for Donal Thomas...had a very good game, made a big difference when he came on,Carried the ball forward and tackled well. 8

Jason Reily for Cian Mackey...dont think he touched the ball at all

Rory Gallagher for Gerard Pearson...kicked a marvelous point...not very fit looking but wouldnt be worried about that


it was a poor game in poor conditions...Queens started to take control after about 20 minutes and fair play to the Management,They
made two key switched bringing on Gunner and Forde and it paid off....
Looking forward to the game against Tyrone in Breffini next Saturday night at 6.30
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 15, 2007, 10:19:01 AM
ballyhaiseman i though that mackey had a very poor game and don't think he is worth his place.  He would be better off with the U-21's and i can't understand why he isn't playing for them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on January 15, 2007, 11:17:18 AM
Ballyhaiseman,disagree with you on Jason,only on for a short time but won 2 or 3 scoreable frees in that time.Mackey,not up to it in these conditions,maybe will make a bigger impact with a drier sod but as Cavan4ever states should be with the U21's.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 15, 2007, 12:38:24 PM
Indeed why wasnt he playing for the under 21's in the Hastings Cup....  :-\
In my opinion when everyones fit and competing for spots...he wont get his place on the Senior team anyway.
wouldnt be suprised to see Gallagher get a starting spot Saturday night,although he didnt look terribely fit when he was tracking back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 15, 2007, 02:08:09 PM
Yip, agree that Mackey was poor. It is too soon for him and I am also not sure if he has the brain for this level at the moment. He reminds me of Larry Reilly. I also thought Eamonn Reilly was poor. Dire passing from him and loose marking. The rest of the team were only average with the exception of Forde and Pierson.

Saying that I did say last week that we shouldn't read too much into the win over Derry and likewise we shouldn't read to much into this. I do think we will do well to stay withing 5 points of Tyrone who tore Derry apart yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 15, 2007, 02:18:29 PM
what did u thing of jonathon crowe i though he played quiet well?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 15, 2007, 08:10:49 PM
I find Crowe doesn't make much impact and for the most part he seems to let the game pass him by.

As Myles and Rossi have said theres no point in playing Mackey at this stage of the year he's a dry sod player. Similar to Killian Lynch playing with the u21s, its just not gonna happen. The defence was quite shaky especially in the last ten minutes.

Anyway according to the hoganstand it would seem the Tyrone game is gonna be postponed, due to the reprocusions pending on Mickey Harte and his crew.

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=71160
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 16, 2007, 09:13:50 AM
looked like a decent turn out at Cavan training last night
I counted 31 or 32
No sign of Gaynor though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on January 16, 2007, 10:44:34 AM
I actually thought Crowe played well enough also.Was strong going for the ball and distribution wasn't too bad.Did anyone feel that when McCabe went to full forward in the second half that Cavan stopped playing football and were content to hit long hopeful (50/50) balls into McCabe.Hopefully this isn't going to be the trend for the year.

Has Sean Brady finished in UCD? also qestion for Ballyhaiseman, S McCormack came on as a sub for DIT at the weekend,would this be your clubman? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 16, 2007, 12:02:15 PM
Rossi
No as far as im aware S McCormack is playing Trench Cup for Trinity....so unless theres some rule that you can play Trench for one college and Sigerson for another i dont think it could be him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on January 16, 2007, 12:11:23 PM
Quote from: Rossi
also qestion for Ballyhaiseman, S McCormack came on as a sub for DIT at the weekend,would this be your clubman?

That would be Seán McCormack of Longford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 16, 2007, 12:23:31 PM
looked like a decent turn out at Cavan training last night
I counted 31 or 32
No sign of Gaynor though

Lynchbhoy
where were they training?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 16, 2007, 12:25:42 PM
looked like a decent turn out at Cavan training last night
I counted 31 or 32
No sign of Gaynor though

Lynchbhoy
where were they training?
St. Brigids Castleknock/Blanchardstown new all weather pitch
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 16, 2007, 12:27:23 PM
ahhh im guessing  that was a mixture of Under 21's and Seniors based in Dublin and that there was another Session in Cavan for the home based players..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 16, 2007, 12:29:38 PM
A freezing cold night in January when everyone else is at the fire, and the bould Lynchboy is off on clandestine manoeuvres hiding in a hedge taking notes on the Cavan footballers. I worry about you Lynchboy I really do...

Actually, could this be construed as a form of GAA dogging?

"Sorry Donal, I was just, erm, ahem, cough, cough, walking the ould dog....";D

Only joking my friend. :P

Did you see anything interesting itself?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 16, 2007, 12:42:47 PM
A freezing cold night in January when everyone else is at the fire, and the bould Lynchboy is off on clandestine manoeuvres hiding in a hedge taking notes on the Cavan footballers. I worry about you Lynchboy I really do...

Actually, could this be construed as a form of GAA dogging?

"Sorry Donal, I was just, erm, ahem, cough, cough, walking the ould dog....";D

Only joking my friend. :P

Did you see anything interesting itself?

I happened to be there for another reason for a while.
I only saw them arrive out onto the pitch and the only people I recognised were McCabe and I think Pierson
All in woolly hats and bulky warm training gear, which I thought was odd in itself as it wasnt a cold night at all as I hobbled about in my t shirt

I left as they were warming up.
It could have been the senior panel as the floodlit all weather pitch is a lot easier to train a team on and even do decent ball work rather than slogging wastefully around a mucky field
as I couldnt identify nearly all of them , I cant really comment much
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 16, 2007, 06:17:36 PM
In answer to Lynchboys statement yhat there was no sign of Gaynor, hasn't he gone to Australia for a few months.  Hopefully not for a Aussie Rules trial as I think Aussie Rules woulld be to his taste.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 16, 2007, 07:07:28 PM
Gaynor's home as far as I know
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 16, 2007, 09:22:55 PM
Gaynor's home since last Wednesday alright, haven't been talking to him so don't know if he has gone back into the county or what.  ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 16, 2007, 09:26:20 PM
Gaynor's home since last Wednesday alright, haven't been talking to him so don't know if he has gone back into the county or what.  ???
right if I see the lads training next week, I'll tell keoghan that Gaynor said he's a fat old has been who serves bad beer and he doesnt want to come back on the panel

(Keoghan will undoubtedly say that both Gaynors butchers serve fare worse than dog meat)


I'm sure he'll be back training shortly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 16, 2007, 10:27:54 PM
New League & Championship Proposals

New proposals will shake things up a bit, some resistance from Junior Clubs as usual but PRO had all the answers for them and got it through unanimous after a excellent presentation.

All County Football Leagues 2007

ACFL to comprise of 6 Divisions (1-6)
Divisions 4, 5 & 6 would be the current reserve teams
Promotion and relegation through each of the divisions
The top two teams in each division to play in league final
Bottom two teams relegated in Divisions 1 & 2
One team relegated in Division 3, 4 & 5
One team promoted in Divisions 4, 5 & 6
14 teams to play in divisions 1, 2 & 3 as per 2006 season

Championship Football:

Senior, Intermediate & Junior Championships to return to a knockout basis
Backdoor qualifying system for the 1st round losers
In the case of the Senior & Intermediate Championships, 7 teams go into the backdoor for one quarter-final position.
In the Junior Championship, 6 teams go into the backdoor for 2 quarter-final positions.
In the Senior and Intermediate qualifier, one team will get a bye to the second round with 3 games taking place in the first round.
In the junior championship backdoor first round, 3 winners go forward to play each other for 2 quarter-final places.

Junior B, C & D Competitions to be run in place of Reserve Championships
Junior B, C & D Competitions to be run on a knockout basis

Relegation

The 3 teams that lose the first round backdoor qualifiers in Senior & Intermediate will go into a relegation play-off.

There will be no relegation in the Junior Championship


- taken from the hoganstand message board
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 16, 2007, 11:45:12 PM
Gaynor's home since last Wednesday alright, haven't been talking to him so don't know if he has gone back into the county or what.  ???
right if I see the lads training next week, I'll tell keoghan that Gaynor said he's a fat old has been who serves bad beer and he doesnt want to come back on the panel

He could say far worse and still not be wrong!

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before he comes back he just needs to recharge his batteries I'd say after a hectic enough old season for club and county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 17, 2007, 11:01:31 AM
is the tyrone game going ahead sat nite, any news anywhere from the ulster council meeting last nite??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 17, 2007, 11:13:16 AM
Yeah it's going ahead!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on January 17, 2007, 11:45:39 AM
Tyrone's McKenna Cup game to go ahead
Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:11 
   
 
 
 Micky Harte's Tyrone team have been given the green light to face Cavan this weekend 
 
Tyrone's Dr McKenna Cup game is to go ahead on Saturday after a compromise was reached between the county board and the Ulster Council.

The Red Hands will meet Cavan under the Breffni Park floodlights without the four students who have been at the centre of a storm for the past fortnight.

But Tyrone will still face an Ulster Council investigation into their use of the players in breach of a Dr McKenna Cup regulation which gives the universities first call on players.

 
A specially convened meeting of the council on Tuesday evening ended with a decision to invite the Tyrone board to answer a charge of breaching competition rules.

No date has been fixed for the hearing, but Tyrone's successful request for this weekend's game to go ahead - minis UUJ trio Colm Cavanagh, Brendan Boggs and Damien McCaul, as well as Cathal McCarron of St Mary's - means the competition can proceed without delay.

'The Tyrone county committee will be contesting the alleged infraction put to us by the Ulster Council, but in the interest of the competition, we will not be playing the students against Cavan on Saturday, so that the Cavan game can proceed,' said county chairman Pat Darcy in a brief statement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 18, 2007, 12:31:39 PM
Any team news for saturday night??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermPundit on January 18, 2007, 01:49:31 PM
What reaction did Rory Gallagher get when he came on last Saturday night?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 18, 2007, 03:17:37 PM
he got the same as any other sub that came on a bit of applause.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 18, 2007, 04:44:28 PM
i thought Gallagher was cheered very loud when he came on....
Pearson who he replaced then got a loud cheer as he was making his way into the dugout.....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: C-na-G on January 18, 2007, 06:52:17 PM
Any chance of Martin Reilly getting a run for the seniors? Seams to be in great form for the u -21s, Serious talent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 19, 2007, 03:33:33 PM
He should stay with the U-21's for now anyway.  If he keeps up the form he could get a run with the senior's towards the end of the league.  It's good to see him back anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on January 19, 2007, 03:45:36 PM
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Any chance of Martin Reilly getting a run for the seniors? Seams to be in great form for the u -21s, Serious talent.

Agree that he's a serious talent but I think he would be better off playing at least a  full season with Killgarry seniors before he joins the county senior squad.The same applies to a lot of our young talent ,they should all get at least a year or two senior football experience with their clubs before they are put on the county senior squad.It's a big step up from minor/U21 to senior and players should be given a chance to adjust.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rollout on January 19, 2007, 03:46:00 PM
Check out

http://cavan.handball.gaa.ie

for informatiion on the M.Donnelly/MyHomeDubai.com/Envirogreen Ulster Handball Open. Gunner is favourite to win. Although rumour has it he'll be playin a league match that week end too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 21, 2007, 03:16:13 PM
well last Night brought us back to earth..... my ratings/analysis

1.Eoin Elliot... Kickouts poor..even if there was a strong breeze...had very little else to do... 6

2.Martin Cahill.......Given the run around by Nial Gormley/Christy Calhoun... improved as the game went on. 6

3.Keith Fannin....Roasted by Paul Rouse the big 6'2 targetman from Brackaville.....switched off him after about 20 minutes...wasnt his best game for Cavan... 6

4.Anthony Forde....Fouled alot was moved in to mark Rouse and also got an absolute roasting,never seen him so poor in a Cavan Shirt... ah well its early in the year... 6

5.Paul Brady.... worked hard....was up against it though as the Tyrone midfield and half backs drove forward...very little he could do. 7

6.Mark McKeever....looked absolutely wrecked...must have been training hard all week... was replaced. 6

7.Jonathon Crowe...the Cavan man of the match in my opinion scored a great point in the second half,battled for everything, was strong,hit all around him and as before didnt look out of place at this level. 8

8.Lorcan Mulvey..... Caught a couple of Good Balls...but done very little else...had next to no support as McCabe was atrocious.. 6

9.Dermot McCabe....wasnt fit to walk,must have been training hard Friday Night, Moved into full forward and done nothing there either... 6

10.Martin Reily......showed flashes of his outstanding ability..also showed flashes of his inexperience as he gave the ball away a fair bit when under pressure......probably too early for him...but will be star for Cavan in the coming years. 6

11.Larry Reily....a noticeabely slimmer Larry Tried hard,but many times he found himself up against 2/3 Tyrone defenders....taken off in the second half. 6

12.Michael Cunningham...one of Cavans better performers...moved the ball at speed...is a very good ball carrier....showed versitility in moving to midfield for the second half...7

13.Gerard Pierson....Tried hard, was very accurate from frees...but the service was putrid compared to the quick direct ball which the Tyrone forwards got. 7

14 Sean Brady...switched to the midfield area with McCabe...Anonymous for a large part...Struggled with Sean Kavanagh as Kavanagh gave him a tour of every blade of grass in Breffini. 6

15. Rory Gallagaher...poor.. very sluggish looking....didnt impact the game at all...replaced at half time. 6

subs...

Jason Reily...got stuck in...chased and battled for every ball.. 6

Cian Mackey...carried the ball well in the last 10 minutes and was one of the main instigators of the late Cavan fightback...carrying the ball at speed against a tired Tyrone Defence...

Eamon Reily... Chesty was brought on at half time...battled hard and got stuck in....but had little impact unfortunately. 6

Michael McDonald...brought on late in the game...wasnt on long enough to rate...

Nicko Walsh....brought on at as a targetman and caught and knocked down some great balls...Hes a definite option in there for the championship.

analysis....

if any of you seen the Tyrone/Derry game last week,you would know one of Tyrones main tactic was to kick the high ball into their new targetman Paul Rouse who is about 6'2  and a great fielder and scoretaker.... what was Cavans response... to try two men Keith Fannin/Anthony Forde...about 5'9 or 5'10 on him... He roasted both of them...what the Management were at,i dont know...
Cavan werent all that bad around the Centre field area and got their fair share of possesion however the service into the forwards was atrocious...balls being kicked high into an struggling McCabe favouring defenders...and balls being kicked towards the cornerflag...
There was no direction to our play... in comparison everytime Tyrone broke forward there was always something on.

I wouldnt be worried though...It was blatently obvious  that the Cavan team were tired out there....they were probably fucked from their hard training session the night before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 21, 2007, 11:47:11 PM
The main thing is we should have another game in this competition I think? Getting more games into these guys is what's important at the moment and this defeat is no harm to puncture any delusional expectations that might have been swelling after beating Derry in such fine style.

Things are always either looking brilliant or brutal with our supporters and no in between, so getting a reality check like this is no harm at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 22, 2007, 11:48:11 AM
it's no shame losing to Tyrone anyway. They are going to go close enough to the all-ireland this year.  There must be some competition in their squad for places.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 22, 2007, 12:59:59 PM
Tyrone have shocking strength in depth...Paul Rouse and Christy Calhoun who i never heard of before Saturday were outstanding
However Cavan were missing a fair few players that will be on the team in May IMO

Miller
Michael Hannon
Gaynor
Rabbitte
Jelly
Lyng...but im probably being too optimistic about him being back in time for May

anyone know how the under 21's got on against Letrim on Saturday, what team they played and who played well etc?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 22, 2007, 02:37:52 PM
The Indo has the Undie 21 result down as Cavan 0-11 Leitrim 0-7, with Roscommon 4-11 Longford 2-8 the other result. Will take a few days for word on team lineouts etc. to filter out I'd say but so far so good for this particular team anyway, even if our strong performances in the competition have counted for little once the main championship business got underway in recent years. Who's managing the U21s can anyone tell me, is it Keogan or someone else?

I also see we don't have a further game in the McKenna Cup as we didn't finish as one of the best runner-ups. Ah well. It was a very useful exercise and we can get the planning going for the crunch league opener against Meath. It's an awful shame this hasn't been moved to the Sunday so we could catch the Dublin Tyrone game on TV and attend this spicy local derby as well...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on January 22, 2007, 02:44:36 PM
The U 21's have the same management team as seniors
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 22, 2007, 02:52:47 PM
Yeah true enough cavanmaniac it would have been good to be able to see both games.  Alot of our league games are on saturdays now aswell which is alright but it was always gud to have a league game on a sunday to go to. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 22, 2007, 03:11:11 PM
i think Thomas Jackson is involved in the under 21's but not the seniors?  ???

will we be missing Gunner for the Meath Match...if hes playing Handball in the big tournament thats starting in Kingscourt soon?

what we got out of the McKenna cup in my opinion is the knowledge that two new players we tried Crowe and Cunningham are fit for this level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 22, 2007, 03:28:09 PM
Jackson has been along the line the at last two senior games.  He wasn't suposed to be involved from what i heard at start of year. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on January 22, 2007, 04:28:06 PM
The M Donnelly/My Home Dubai/Envirogreen Ulster Open will be on the weekend 10-11 Feb, the same weekend Cavan play Wicklow. Id say Brady will play both football and handball.

Any of the Cavan supporters on here intending to come and watch the top ten handballers on the planet getting whupped by a Cavan man?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 22, 2007, 04:37:38 PM
Is it a really big tournament??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on January 22, 2007, 04:46:28 PM
The biggest in the history of the sport.

Bigger than the World Championships even.

Check http://cavan.handball.gaa.ie  for the details

Here's the press release:

World Class Handball Tournament Launch

The Kingscourt Handball Club have announced the details of the groundbreaking M Donnelly/ My Home Dubai – Envirogreen Ulster Open, which will be staged in the state of the art three court complex in Kingscourt, Co Cavan on the weekend of 10-11 February 2007.

This will be the biggest and most innovative handball event ever staged on this island, with six of the top American players confirmed to attend. Allied to our own senior World Champions Paul Brady, Eoin Kennedy and Tony Healy, the presence of the Americans (including US number one Naty Alvarado Jr) will ensure that the top ten male, and top eight female, handballers on the planet will be in Kingscourt on the weekend in question.

The blue riband Mens and Ladies Open Singles will be run in conjunction with a host of other grades. There are185 entries in total, with players ranging in age from 13 to 50.

A banquet will be held on the Saturday night of the competition in the four star Cabra Castle Hotle to honour players, supporters and sponsors of the tournament.

The Ulster International Open will be the most high profile event Irish handball has witnessed, and will be officially launched on Monday 6th February at 1 pm in Croke Park.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 24, 2007, 03:09:10 PM
God this site is slipping lads..

Many heading to the first league game in Navan??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 24, 2007, 04:00:59 PM
Looks like I've got something on that night and won't be able to make it. Feckin' families >:(

I'm rightly pissed off, there's only a handful of games in this division I really didn't want to miss this year and this is one of them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 24, 2007, 05:34:26 PM
will probably go to Navan...as long as nothing creeps up between now and then.
dont worry Maniac...
There will be a report at about 5am on the Sunday Morning when i get in hungover   :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2007, 08:01:15 PM
I will be going. I think we will win as long as Keoghan gives the lads a bit of a break from the hard training before this game. It is a key game and we need to get of on a good footing this year. What better way than to beat those Meath dirt bags!!! Any word on whether Gaynor is back on the panel - I hope he gets called in and that there is no "personalities" at play here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 25, 2007, 12:05:30 PM
Just to let you know that Rory Gallagher is not going to be running a pub around the Killinaleck area.
He is joining Crosserlough. Still going to be working and living in Dublin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 25, 2007, 12:38:40 PM
The rate at which they're closing down 'skintown' direction, it's probably just as well. Cavan would want him focused on his football and not worrying about scraping up the few bob to pay the rent ;D

Will be an interesting addition to Crosserlough's team all the same. I wonder how they managed to get him, who does he know there, what made him plump for them over other more obvious candidates?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 25, 2007, 01:04:57 PM
The rate at which they're closing down 'skintown' direction, it's probably just as well. Cavan would want him focused on his football and not worrying about scraping up the few bob to pay the rent ;D

Will be an interesting addition to Crosserlough's team all the same. I wonder how they managed to get him, who does he know there, what made him plump for them over other more obvious candidates?

I didnt ask him...
must do next time I see him..
think he knows no-one there, just had to join a Cavan club in order to pay for the county
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 25, 2007, 01:13:05 PM
And tell him we'll all be rooting for him in the blue shirt as well! (especially if he bags 3-9 against Meath....instant hero! :o)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 25, 2007, 01:49:45 PM
Been absent for a while folks. Feck all for news yous lads.

Gaynor asked to get back in the panel l\st week alright but as off the Tyrone match he hadn't got a call back. Haven't heard anything since.

Regards the u21s wasn't at the Leitrim game but Delaney was in goals, Sean McCormack full-back started very shaky but settled (podge wasn't playing) Taite and Geoghan were the wing half backs both played well (Geoghan's third good game for them) McDonald and Cunningham midfield. Anton Reilly on the 40. Raymond Galligan scored 6 points (5 frees but very well taken). Alan 'toasty' Clarke was at the game in a cast from his groin to his ankle, he's fractured his tibia (the thigh bone) from the Longford game, will be out for 11 weeks. Enda McCormack is to resume training after a spell out with a groin injury.

I'd heard since alright the pub story about Gallagher isn't true. D'OH.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 25, 2007, 02:09:15 PM
yeah id say that gallagher story started in a pub .  Gaynor will be back thats for sure well worth his place and his hard hittting will b needed to get crowd and team going..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 25, 2007, 04:04:59 PM

Gaynor asked to get back in the panel l\st week alright but as off the Tyrone match he hadn't got a call back. Haven't heard anything since.

Hopefully it's because they didn't want to upset the panel of players that have trained all year or soemthing, but will welcome him back later on or something. Can't think of any other reason why they wouldn't have him back...unless he's heading off again shortly or something and they didn't see the point?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 25, 2007, 04:48:24 PM
bad news about Clarke......he would have been one of our key under 21 men this year....

im guessing the news about Gallagher working in Shercock was also false.....

Its strange Darragh Gaffney isnt around the under 21 scene? Laziness or the management dont fancy him?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 25, 2007, 05:01:43 PM

Gaynor asked to get back in the panel l\st week alright but as off the Tyrone match he hadn't got a call back. Haven't heard anything since.

Hopefully it's because they didn't want to upset the panel of players that have trained all year or soemthing, but will welcome him back later on or something. Can't think of any other reason why they wouldn't have him back...unless he's heading off again shortly or something and they didn't see the point?

he was only away a few weeks and had trained b4 he went away so i don't think anyone would have been upset.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 25, 2007, 06:40:34 PM
im guessing the news about Gallagher working in Shercock was also false.....


LOL
I must tell him that one

also there will shortly be sightings of him and lord lucan racing around Kildallan on shergar soon.... :D

he's keeping the job he has and in fact the role he has in dublin is actually branching out to be something a little more exciting  than it was...so shercock will have to wait...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 26, 2007, 10:29:15 AM
Fixtures Division 1
A.C.F.L. Div 1 2007


Round One

Belturbet v Cuchullains
Mullahoran v Ballinagh
Gowna v Ballyhaise
Cavan Gaels v Denn
Kingscourt v Drumalee
Drumlane v Lacken
Castlerahan v Crosserlough

Round Two

Cuchullains v Mullahoran
Ballinagh v Gowna
Ballyhaise v Cavan Gaels
Denn v Kingscourt
Drumalee v Drumlane
Lacken v Crosserlough
Belturbet v Castlerahan


Round Three

Mullahoran v Belturbet
Gowna v Cuchullains
Cavan Gaels v Ballinagh
Kingscourt v Ballyhaise
Drumlane v Denn
Crosserlough v Drumalee
Castlerahan v Lacken

Round Four

Belturbet v Gowna
Cuchullains v Cavan Gaels
Ballinagh v Kingscourt
Ballyhaise v Drumlane
Denn v Crosserlough
Drumalee v Lacken
Mullahoran v Castlerahan

Round Five

Gowna v Mullahoran
Cavan Gaels v Belturbet
Kingscourt v Cuchullains
Drumlane v Ballinagh
Crosserlough v Ballyhaise
Lacken v Denn
Castlerahan v Drumalee

Round Six

Mullahoran v Cavan Gaels
Belturbet v Kingscourt
Cuchullains v Drumlane
Ballinagh v Crosserlough
Ballyhaise v Lacken
Denn v Drumalee
Gowna v Castlerahan

Round Seven

Cavan Gaels v Gowna
Kingscourt v Mullahoran
Drumlane v Belturbet
Crosserlough v Cuchullains
Lacken v Ballinagh
Drumalee v Ballyhaise
Castlerahan v Denn

Round Eight

Gowna v Kingscourt
Mullahoran v Drumlane
Belturbet v Crosserlough
Cuchullains v Lacken
Ballinagh v Drumalee
Ballyhaise v Denn
Cavan Gaels v Castlerahan


Round Nine

Kingscourt v Cavan Gaels
Drumlane v Gowna
Crosserlough v Mullahoran
Lacken v Belturbet
Drumalee v Cuchullains
Denn v Ballinagh
Castlerahan v Ballyhaise

Round Ten

Cavan Gaels v Drumlane
Gowna v Crosserlough
Mullahoran v Lacken
Belturbet v Drumalee
Cuchullains v Denn
Ballinagh v Ballyhaise
Kingscourt v Castlerahan

Round Eleven

Drumlane v Kingscourt
Crosserlough v Cavan Gaels
Lacken v Gowna
Drumalee v Mullahoran
Denn v Belturbet
Ballyhaise v Cuchullains
Castlerahan v Ballinagh

Round Twelve

Kingscourt v Crosserlough
Cavan Gaels v Lacken
Gowna v Drumalee
Mullahoran v Denn
Belturbet v Ballyhaise
Cuchullains v Ballinagh
Drumlane v Castlerahan

Round Thirteen

Crosserlough v Drumlane
Lacken v Kingscourt
Drumalee v Cavan Gaels
Denn v Gowna
Ballyhaise v Mullahoran
Ballinagh v Belturbet
Castlerahan v Cuchullains
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2007, 12:29:46 PM
Gowna, Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt in the first three games yet again  >:(  >:(
The county board want us relegated for sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 26, 2007, 12:34:22 PM
Gowna, Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt in the first three games yet again >:( >:(
The county board want us relegated for sure.

Could be worse BallyhaiseMan we have Mullahoran, Gowna, Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt as our first four games. Actually looking at it now you guys are playing the latter 3 just before us, so do us a favour and send out the bruisers will ya.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2007, 12:48:33 PM
Bruisers Homer.....
You know well by now
we have none of those  :D  :D  :D
as defending League Champions though you should have no problems with that... we however seem to be perennial relegation candidates.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 26, 2007, 12:58:55 PM
Well to be honest BallyhaiseMan we started with the same attitude as you last year (ie. avoiding relegation the main goal), and look how we ended up.

I hear you's have a new recruit anyway, a guard and former county u21 from Laois if my sources are correct, should do your cause no harm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2007, 01:02:38 PM
indeed,John Donoghue

Looks a very good player in training i must say......

should be a straight fight between ourselves again for the Intermediate Title id say....
With Perhaps Drumgoon also involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 26, 2007, 01:05:34 PM
Have Drumgoon sorted their house out since last year? Because I watched them in championship last year and they were an absolute RABBLE.

Lots of problems there to be sorted out to my eye, a club that fell along way after a meteoric rise up the ranks. Hopefully they'll stabilise, it's good to see a club building from the bottom and challenging the old order from time to time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2007, 01:13:40 PM
well Ray McCarron has left them....
not sure who is managing them...

any team with the likes of The Hannons, Edward Jackson, Keith Fannin,Michael McDonald and Jim McNally will be tough though...
Expect them to be in contention for promotion from div 2 and the Intermediate CHampionship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 26, 2007, 01:26:50 PM
Would agree alright that it will probably be Ballinagh, Ballyhaise and Drumgoon in the shake up for Intermediate this year. We'll probably start as slight favourites but that has never helped us. If Drumgoon get goin this year I reckon they'll be very hard stopped. Seems Lavey will be missing Sean Maguire (injured) and Joey Jordan (abroad, well in Wales) for a considerable part of the season but if they're around come championship, they'll be in contention too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2007, 01:36:02 PM
i think Baileborough under Vincent Kelly could be suprise packages they had a very good under 21 team last year....combined with the older heads, they could ruffle some feathers......
As you said Homer, Lavey and i might add Drumlane and Drung may also have a shot...cant see any other teams winning it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 29, 2007, 11:06:17 AM
Big write up on Cavan in the Irish News there on Saturday. May I present for your reading pleasure:

++++++++++

Anthony Forde has seen more ups than downs during his lengthy inter-county career with Cavan. He tells Paul McConville why the Breffni players have to step up to the plate and turn the county’s fortunes around...

DONAL Keoghan may be the latest in a long line of Cavan managers hoping to awaken Ulster’s sleeping giant, but Anthony Forde believes the new regime will not just be another foot-note in the county’s history.

A flurry of short-term successors to Martin McHugh, the last to bring tangible success to the county in the form of an Ulster title in 1997, preceded Liam Austin’s appointment in 1998.

Val Andrews, Mattie Kerrigan, Eamonn Coleman and Martin McElkennon all followed, but enjoyed varying fortunes without ever revisiting the heights McHugh reached.

Anthony Forde has played under all of those since coming on to the panel in 1995.

He has witnessed first hand the ups and downs of Cavan football, particularly in recent years when clashes between players and management have hit the headlines and last year’s failure to gain promotion from Division Two set the tone for a frustrating Championship.

But the Cavan Gaels veteran is frank in his assessment of recent disappointments.

“We have gone through a lot of managers, but at the end of the day, players have got to look at themselves,” said Forde.

“You can have all the managers in the world and all the theories in the world, but at the end of the day it comes down to ‘once you cross the white line…’ That’s the crucial thing,” he said.

“We’re the people that have let the county down over the last few years. There’s no doubt about that. We can’t get away from that fact. You can cloud it over and say ‘this manager and that manager’. But, at the end of the day, the buck stops with the players and we have to take responsibility for that.”

While insisting that the current crop of players do need to stand up and be counted, Forde also believes there is a more long-term solution to the county’s problems.

A year after making his senior debut, Forde was part of the Cavan team which won the Ulster U21 title and reached the All-Ireland final, only to lose out to Kerry.

Many promising young players have pulled on the blue jersey since then, but the county have failed to convert those individual talents into team triumphs, something Forde believes is necessary if they are to challenge the top teams again.

Last year’s League and Championship campaigns may have been blighted by injuries, but the Cavan Gaels veteran believes the problem lies deeper.

“If you look at the players we have at our disposal, you can talk about injuries. But at the end of the day, everybody has injuries. Realistically, for Cavan to be successful, we do need success at underage level,” he said.

“If you look at any team worth their salt, the likes of Tyrone, Armagh, they’ve had success at underage level and they have a strong underage structure.

“We haven’t been able to make that breakthrough over the last few years.

“In 1996, we won an U21 Championship and that was the basis of our success for 1997. So I think, realistically, we need to look it at long-term.

“But in the short term, we have good young players coming through and it’s important that we mould them in during the course of the League.

“We have to gel them in and that’s one of our roles as senior players to do that.”

Keoghan is also looking long-term. Promotion from Division 2A may be a top priority for Cavan this year, but they need to achieve a consistency in performance which was lacking last year.

Although they only lost two of their NFL games last year, the second of those defeats to Waterford was seen as the low point in the county’s recent past.

Forde admits they were “too complacent” before the clash with the Decies.

He is also adamant that such a performance is something they will not be allowed to repeat under the new regime, who will insist on a stronger team approach this time.

“It’s probably something we have been lacking. We have had the individuals, there’s no doubt about that. Maybe to gel that into county football has been that bit more difficult for the managers there,” said Forde.

“But we’ve not better man involved than Paul Grimley this year. He comes with a very strong team work ethic from his days in Armagh. If there’s anybody that’s going to be able to break the mould for ourselves, then he’s the man to do it

“It’s a learning curve for us, it’s a learning curve for him and we’re trying to make progress every time we go out.”

Cavan started last year’s League campaign as hot favourites for promotion to the top flight.

Even a first day defeat to Louth didn’t derail them as they then won their next five matches, admittedly making hard work for themselves in all of those games.

In the end, it was points difference which proved their undoing after that now infamous defeat to Waterford.

Louth and Westmeath have been replaced by Meath and Limerick in Division 2B and Forde feels promotion is now a tougher task than it was, especially as many of the other counties may fancy themselves against a

perceived wounded animal in Cavan.

“It’s a tough group. You have the likes of Meath who have come down and have a new manager as well,” said Forde.

“You have the likes of Wicklow, who are going well in the O’Byrne Cup and Micko has brought a new freshness to them.

“You have a lot of teams that are there that are biting at the bit, so our work is going to be cut out.

“We’re under no illusions about that and people are probably looking at us as maybe not as much a threat as we once were.We need to earn that respect again.”

But one thing Forde can guarantee is that the effort levels won’t be called into question this year. Cavan is a proud footballing county with no shortage of opinions.

Winning the hearts and minds is one challenge facing Forde and his team-mates, a task he feels they’re up to.

“Hopefully success will come for Cavan football. The county is craving for it, the supporters are and I know the players are,” he said.

“Whether that happens this year or not, remains to be seen. But it won’t be for the want of trying, certainly from players or management,” he said.



ONES TO WATCH

CAVAN will be hoping the potential of the likes of Cian Mackey, Sean Brady and Lorcan Mulvey bears fruit this year.

But the McKenna Cup threw up another couple of up-and-coming names to refresh the panel.

Swanlinbar clubman Michael Cunningham has made an immediate impact since being drafted onto panel this year. He starred in his club’s Cavan Junior Championship win in 2006 and impressed on his senior county debut, scoring 0-3 in the McKenna Cup win over Derry.

The wing-forward has been a prolific scorer for his club, but his high work-rate is another stand-out quality.

Crosserlough’s Jonathan Crowe is another who can make a name for himself this year. The wing-back did not look overawed by the recent visit of Tyrone to Breffni Park and even bagged himself a point late on.



NFL SQUAD

NFL focus - CAVAN



(Provisional)

James Reilly (Drung), Eoghan Elliott (Cavan Gaels), Colm Anderson (Cuchullains), Anthony Forde (Cavan Gaels), Anthony Gaynor (Ballinagh, Anton Reilly (Ramor Utd), Barry Kelly (Ballyhaise), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Ciaran Galligan (Drung), Darren Rabbitt (Cavan Gaels, Nicholas Walsh (Cavan Gaels), Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels), Eamon Reilly (Cavan Gaels), Dermot McCabe (Gowna), Declan McCabe (Crosserlough), Donal Thomas (Killygarry), Gerald Pierson (Gowna), Jason O’Reilly (Belturbet), Jonathon Crowe (Crosserlough), Keith Fannin (Drumgoon), Larry Reilly (Knockbride), Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge), Mark McKeever (Gowna, Martin Cahill (Denn), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Michael Brennan (Drumalee, Michael Cunningham (Swanlinbar), Michael McDonald (Drumgoon), Michael Hannon (Drumgoon), Pauric O’Reilly (Ballinagh), Sean Brady (Castlerahan, Thomas Corr (Denn), Thomas Wakely (Kingscourt), Rory Gallagher (Crosserlough), Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise), Michael Lyng (Cavan Gaels, left), Alan Clarke (Kingscourt), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), Enda McCormack (Drumalee), Paul Brady (Mullahoran)

• Panel is subject to alteration before Cavan’s first NFL match

• The captain will be named when the NFL squad is finalised



2006 RESULTS

National Football League Division 2B

Cavan 0-10 Louth 2-9

Wicklow 1-12 Cavan 1-13

Cavan 0-13 Tipperary 1-9

Sligo 2-9 Cavan 1-15

Cavan 0-16 Antrim 2-9

Westmeath 0-6 Cavan 0-11

Cavan 1-9 Waterford 0-14



Ulster Senior Football Championship

Preliminary round: Down 1-13 Cavan 0-11



All-Ireland SFC

Round One Qualifier: Kildare 1-18 Cavan 1-13



2007 FIXTURES

National Football League Division 2B

February 3: Meath (a)

February 10: Wicklow (h)

February 25: Tipperary (a)

March 10: Sligo (h)

March 24: Antrim (a)

April 1: Wexford (h)

April 7: Waterford (a)

April 15: Division Two semi-finals

April 22: Division Two final



Ulster Senior Football Championship

Sunday May 13, Preliminary round: Cavan v Down (Breffni Park)



THE VERDICT

IN between an opening day defeat to eventual Division Two champions Louth and that loss to Waterford, Cavan won five out of five of their matches in Division 2B last year.

Having been heavily tipped for promotion, they were pipped on points difference by Westmeath, oddly enough the team they recorded their biggest win over in the division.

But that five-point triumph over the Midlanders was not typical of their scoring returns, they beat Wicklow, Tipperary and Antrim by just a single point and only had three to spare over Sligo.

A county with the attacking wealth of the Breffni men should be racking up bigger totals and that is the key to their promotion hopes this year.

Whatever happened against Waterford, the stark truth is that they scored just 1-9 against the worst defence in the National League.

Scores on the board are key, as was evident when Antrim came storming back in the League tie at Breffni Park last year.

Their attacking prowess should be greatly enhanced by ex-Fermanagh star Rory Gallagher and the return of Michael Lyng for the latter part of the League.

However, Seanie Johnston and Gerald Pierson will still represent the Breffnimen’s greatest scoring outlets.

The role of Dermot McCabe (right) is crucial.

The Gowna man’s presence at midfield is a huge influence, but he is equally effective at full-forward. If Donal Keoghan decides to opt for the latter, a lot may rest on the young shoulders of Lorcan Mulvey at centrefield.

Another conundrum for Keoghan is the correct positioning of Mark McKeever.

McKeever showed against Tyrone in the McKenna Cup that he is a capable centre-back.

But he could provide the leadership needed in attack in a centre-forward role.

Arguably, Division 2B is tougher this year with Meath and Limerick the relegated teams. However, if Cavan can click as a team, and if their forwards can be more ruthless with their finishing, a top two-finish is possible.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 30, 2007, 02:45:15 PM
Provisional)

James Reilly (Drung), Eoghan Elliott (Cavan Gaels), Colm Anderson (Cuchullains), Anthony Forde (Cavan Gaels), Anthony Gaynor (Ballinagh, Anton Reilly (Ramor Utd), Barry Kelly (Ballyhaise), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Ciaran Galligan (Drung), Darren Rabbitt (Cavan Gaels, Nicholas Walsh (Cavan Gaels), Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels), Eamon Reilly (Cavan Gaels), Dermot McCabe (Gowna), Declan McCabe (Crosserlough), Donal Thomas (Killygarry), Gerald Pierson (Gowna), Jason O’Reilly (Belturbet), Jonathon Crowe (Crosserlough), Keith Fannin (Drumgoon), Larry Reilly (Knockbride), Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge), Mark McKeever (Gowna, Martin Cahill (Denn), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Michael Brennan (Drumalee, Michael Cunningham (Swanlinbar), Michael McDonald (Drumgoon), Michael Hannon (Drumgoon), Pauric O’Reilly (Ballinagh), Sean Brady (Castlerahan, Thomas Corr (Denn), Thomas Wakely (Kingscourt), Rory Gallagher (Crosserlough), Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise), Michael Lyng (Cavan Gaels, left), Alan Clarke (Kingscourt), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), Enda McCormack (Drumalee), Paul Brady (Mullahoran)

Interesting and strong panel....
i like the fact that there are multiple midfield options available.In Galligan,Mulvey,McDonald,Thomas and Cullivan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 30, 2007, 03:28:26 PM
Ballyhaiseman... is there any reason why barry kelly didn't feature in any of the mckenna cup games(injury??) 

Good 2 c pauric reiilly named aswell he must have changed his mind about not playing with seniors this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 30, 2007, 04:30:12 PM
indeed cavan4ever Barry Kelly was injured throughout the McKenna Cup campaign........Hope he gets a shot at claiming a place at some stage in the NFL....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 30, 2007, 08:11:26 PM
Good 2 c pauric reiilly named aswell he must have changed his mind about not playing with seniors this year.

As far as I know neither Podge or Gaynor are not back in (well yet anyway). I'm sure Podge will be in after sigerson football finishes up and Gaynor as soon as he gets the green light from Keoghan, but apparently he's getting the cold shoulder for now (could be wrong on that one).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 31, 2007, 08:36:10 AM
i wonder where that squad was taken from then cos it is not very accurate if what you say is true.  I heard gaynor was ringing keoghan but keoghan won't answer his calls.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 31, 2007, 09:11:53 AM


Following the challenge game with Clare in Mullingar last Sunday, the Cavan team management have announced a panel of 32 which will be involved in the national league campaign in the coming months.

It includes a mixture of youth and experience, and Cavan supporters are hoping it will be a winning blend that will bring National Football League promotion at the end of the season.

The selected panel is as follows – Anthony Forde (Cavan Gaels), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Ciaran Galligan (Drung), Colm Anderson (Cuchulainns), Darren Rabbitte (Cavan Gaels), Dermot McCabe (Gowna), Donal Thomas (Killygarry), Eamonn Reilly (Cavan Gaels), Rory Gallagher (Crosserlough), Gerald Pierson (Gowna), Jason Reilly, Jonathan Crowe, Keith Fannin, Larry Reilly, Lorcan Mulvey, Mark McKeever, Martin Cahill, Martin Reilly, Michael Brennan, Michael Cunningham, Micheal Lyng, Michael McDonald, Michael Hannon, Nicholas Walsh, Ronan Flanagan, Sean Brady, Sean Johnston, Dermot Sheridan, Paul Brady, Ray Cullivan, Enda McCormick, James Reilly.


 
This is from the hoganstand site
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 31, 2007, 10:13:08 AM
Don't blame him, Gaynor shouldn't have fucked off and missed a load of the hard training.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 31, 2007, 12:05:14 PM
There aint a chance in hell Cavan will play against Down in May without Anthony Gaynor in the half back line.....
He will be called back in before too long,i have no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 31, 2007, 12:47:27 PM
Don't blame him, Gaynor shouldn't have fucked off and missed a load of the hard training.

I can see where your coming from Bottom Brick, but when do you suggest county players take there holidays then? If they can't go away for a month, five months before the start of the championship when can they? Ballinagh were also playing football into late november too you know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 31, 2007, 01:59:39 PM
From Hoganstand

Former Fermanagh and Ulster star forward Rory Gallagher has been selected at full-forward on the Cavan side to play Meath in the NFL Division 2B first round game in Pairc Tailteann, Navan under lights on Saturday 3rd February at 7.30pm.

The side also includes a number of newcomers in attack such as former county minor star, Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise) at wing-forward; Michael Cunningham the Swanlinbar youngster also in the half-forward line, while experienced campaigners such as Larry Reilly and Jason Reilly are listed in the subs.

Butlersbridge clubman Lorcan Mulvay partners Dermot McCabe in the midfield sector, while in defence another newcomer, Jonathan Crowe from the Crosserlough club gets a start in the half-back line after a number of impressive performances in the recent Dr. McKenna Cup campaign. Cavan Gaels team captain, Eamon Reilly has been selected in the troublesome centre-half back berth with the tenacious Keith Fannin selected at full-back.

On paper, the Cavan side looks a nice mixture of youth and experience, and the management will be hoping that the newcomers selected will give the side a freshness and edge that was missing last season, especially in the championship.

However, if they are to start their league campaign off with a win on Saturday evening a lot will be depend on how experienced campaigners such as Dermot McCabe, James Reilly and Anthony Forde perform on the night, and whether forwards of the scoring potential of Seanie Johnston, Rory Gallagher and Gerald Pierson get a good supply of the ball to put the Meath defence under pressure.

This is very much an attacking minded Cavan side selected, and if they can play to their potential on the night they have the talent and ability to trouble what is still a far from settled Meath side, and hopefully come away with a win.

Cavan team to play Meath at Pairc Tailteann, Navan on Saturday evening next in Division 2B of the national football league is; James Reilly; Anthony Forde, Keith Fannin, Martin Cahill; Paul Brady, Eamonn Reilly, Jonathan Crowe; Dermot McCabe, Lorcan Mulvey; Michael Cunningham, Mark McKeever, Ray Cullivan; Seanie Johnston, Rory Gallagher, Gerald Pierson.
Subs. Colm Anderson, Jason Reilly, Michael Hannon, Nicholas Walsh, Larry Reilly, Cian Mackey, Martin Reilly, Michael Brennan, Donal Thomas, Ciaran Galligan, Dermot Sheridan, Ronan Flanagan, Sean Brady, Darren Rabbitte
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 31, 2007, 03:27:19 PM
training since october ( this was what was said to me though I am not sure if I beleive it), word from the Cavan camp is that they are VERY impressed with Paul Grimley and his regieme
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 31, 2007, 11:32:54 PM
We heard that about Marty McElkennon as well lynchbhoy, but I still hope you're right. ;)

Team above looks a little bit raw in the back six apart from Forde and Fannin at fullback is not a long term solution, but from the middle up we look strong and expecting Meath to be a little behind us in terms of fitness, match practice and settled team, I think we can upset the old enema, I mean enemy, in their back yard. Here's hoping anyway, it's a game we simply can't lose if we want to see Division 1 next year (I'm refusing to contemplate the Tommy Morphine Cup scenario unfolding) and it's a great chance to strike a blow on one of our main promotion rivals early in the competition.

Where's anglocelt39 gone, the week of a Meath game is not one to be lying low...get up outta dat and rally roun' de blue flag!

Real football. Thank f**k it's back. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on February 01, 2007, 12:18:44 AM
Gaynor could take his holidays when he's suspended after losing us an Ulster Under 21 title?  ;)

Don't know if the backs are that "raw", Paul Brady is there too and Cahill is always steady... Surprised to see Chesty centre half though...

Lokking forward to seeing Cullivan, it's about time Cavan threw a big strong 19 year old straight out of minor on to the seniors. sure it worked with Paddy Brady and John Tierney!

In all seriousness, I think we'll get a result. We're 7/4 which I think is a savage price
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 01, 2007, 09:05:19 AM
What are you views on Nicholas Walsh as a player?? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 01, 2007, 10:36:57 AM
I'd be mostly worried about Fannin at full-back and Chesty at no6, two key positions and neither of these guys inspire confidence at times. We'll see how it goes though.

Someone asked about Nicholas Walsh...I think he's a decent enough option as he's strong and willing to put himself about, gets up well to break ball if not clean catch it too often. Sometimes a bit too narky I think, seems to have picked up a real nasty Aussie streak while down under. A decent member of the panel when fit IMHO, not especially skilful or quick but almost certain to see action against Meath at some stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on February 01, 2007, 10:45:55 AM
If this is the 15 to be playing,I'd imagine that Chesty will be moved to FB and Forde to CHB with Fannin going to CB.
I agree with Handball,although Cullivan is a big strong lad and talented footballer,he's one for the future and should be given a chance to develop with the U 21's and his own club senior team for another year or so.Likewise with Martin Reilly another good prospect, but needs at least a years football with Killygarry to gain a bit of senior football experience especially seeing as he was more or less out of the game for about 2/3 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 01, 2007, 06:15:09 PM
Thanks for asking after me Maniac. Am trying to keep to the new years resolution of keeping my paws off this board. Not having lived in the County for god knows how many years, not being involved in the game at all up there it suddenly sort of occurred to me that I have absolutely nothing of merit to add to the conversations/debate save the same oul fuckin platitudes. Plus, as John Leahy of Tipp said in the media during the week January is a great month for optimism, which don't come naturally to me, as you know.

Logging on regularly and enjoying the updates and insights from the Breffni lads who are close to the Action. Fingers crossed for Saturday night. Hope to attend some of the fixtures in darkest Munster against the might of Tipp and Waterford. If so, will post an edited report.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 03, 2007, 11:33:19 PM
Lads I've been a distant admirer of your posts for the last year and shared your hope and despair about our beloved blues without giving you my tuppence worth. As a Cavanite exiled in deepest darkest Meath I only now, after trudging back from tonights gut wrencher in Navan, feel I can add my simple thoughts to those of yours. On the one hand tonights result was a travesty with Cavan 'deserving' to win this match, on the other hand it might just be another in a long line of matches where Cavan fail to put away the opposition and close out the deal. On balance I think that the positive far outweighs the negative and I'm once again like one of those Bisto kids floating on a sniff of hope that is a peculiarly Cavan thing. Didn't see the sending off but presume Crowe took a dig at someone and the resulting performance with 14 men was heroic in many ways. I suppose the one thing that keeps me buoyant at present, Keoghans 'credentials' notwithstanding, is the attitude this year. The difference from last year is startling, and McKeever is the epitome of this. In 2005 I thought that he would win an All Star before long but last year he was a microcosm of everything that is wrong with Cavan football. This year having seen him in the McKenna Cup and tonight, he is getting back to the level of performance he showed against Armagh and Derry in 2005. We badly need Rabbitt back and probably more strength and height upfront, maybe if McKeever hadn't to go back and stayed CHF we might have benefited from his power and ball winning ability. Impressed with young Cullivan and thought a harsh free was given against him for over carrying which then led to Meath goal (altough he should have passed inside!). Big game from McCabe and hope he keeps fit, nice touches from Gallagher as our playmaker, great free late on but he doesn't look that fit yet. Good early scores from Cunningham but thought he faded a bit. I think that Walsh will have a more central role to play in this team yet and he did well when he came on. Anyway thats enough rambling for a newbie!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 04, 2007, 11:09:48 AM
Welcome aboard trimblue...the Cavan mafia grows stronger on gaa board. ;D

Didn't see the match in Navan or hear much about it yet, but it sounds like it was a typical Meath never-say-die thing and pox a goal at the end, see report below from GAA.ie. Fair play to them in one way though, if we were Meath fans we'd be delighted and singing their praises.

For Cavan you might be worried about putting teams away and so on and conceding shitty goals to inferior teams (hope Rabbitte is back soon), but given we had 14 men you can't be too hard on them, and besides, the real thing to be positive about is the super attitude shown by the players in contrast with last year. Longer term this will stand us in better stead than failing to pick up two points in Navan on a Saturday night in February, and getting just the one instead.

I don't think it'll damage our promotion prospects too much. Our biggest remaining games are Sligo and Wexford, we have both those at home whereas the Riles have to travel to both. We have yet to see what sort of form Sligo and Wexford are showing this year but one way or t'other, we look well placed to go up if we keep the hammer down and stay focused...and I think we will, judging by reports on Grimley and training etc.

Meath 2-7 Cavan 0-13

Local derbies can be contentious, emotional events at the best of times and this was no different as Meath once again showed that they just can't be trusted to lose when everything points to that conclusion.

In their Allianz NFL Division 2B clash with Cavan at Pairc Tailteann on Saturday night, Colm Coyle's side limped through a game that Cavan had deservedly earned the right to win, especially following the dismissal of debutant Jonathan Crowe early in the opening half.

With a numerical disadvantage to contend, it was impressive that they sported a 0-7 to 0-2 lead deep into first-half injury time, but then Brian Farrell pounced to net a goal that changed the flow of the game.

With a 0-7 to 1-2 lead, Cavan could still fancy their chances though and further scores from Gerald Pierson and Mark McKeever extended their lead to four points once more.

However, Anthony Moyles, who impressed greatly in his role, Farrell and Joe Sheridan ensured the second half never ran away from the hosts as the first half had.

Rory Gallagher at last was finding his form for his adopted county, and put Cavan 0-10 to 1-5 ahead before Pierson, Aidan Reilly and Jason Reilly made it 0-13 to 1-7 as second-half injury time began.

Everything looked done and dusted until Sheridan swiveled to shoot goalward but while goalkeeper James Reilly got down to block it, he couldn't hold the ball and Farrell was on hand to shoot the loose ball into the empty net for the equaliser.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 04, 2007, 01:30:52 PM
Thanks Cavanmaniac, yeh I think overall the vibes are good and there is more reason to be positive than negative at the moment.... despite getting the draw I can tell you that Meath are far from happy and in no way see this as the latest example of them being never bet..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 04, 2007, 06:59:53 PM
Made a long trip to Navan yesterday. Overall I was happy leaving the ground. We were clearly the better team and I am glad to report that Meath will win nothing this year. The ref sent Crowe off after 5 mins for something that no one else in thr ground seen. There was no player holding his head from a blow or anything, so only the ref knows what he was sent off for. His umpires were equally strange. They waved a meath point wide that was 100% over, then the waved one over which was 100% wide. In any case Cavan were the better team. Very good in defense, putting a lot of pressure on the Meath kicker which resulted in a lot of their wides. Other positives were the performances of McCabe in the middle, McKeever at Ctr Back and in the 2nd half gallagher at ctr Forward. The big positive was Young Cullivan, who was suberb. I can't remember seeing a Cavan player with so much potential. Excellent ball carrying, Sublime fielding and great passing. He seems to have an excellent head on him too and rarely took the wrong option. Mackey did well when he came on and fanin had a good game. On the negative we struggled to get out in front in the full back line and couldn't deal with the ball winning abilities of Joe Sheridan. We need Rabbite back. The last goal was also very poor on our side. James Reillys big problem is that he is dozy. He could have walked over and picked up the shot that Sheridan put in but instead he reacted slowly. Then he made a big error by pushing the rebound out in front of him instead of around the post. It was poor keeping all around. Reilly is proving to be prone to this sort of thing and I  think it needs to be addressed. On the whole it was positive and the results today went out way too with Sligo only drawing with Tipp and Wexford losing to Waterford. Wiclow thumped Antrim though but having seen a few of their games on Setanta in the O Byrne Cup we should be too good for them next week - as long as we don't get cocky of course.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 04, 2007, 11:59:43 PM
Cavan u21s lost to Meath in a challenge today, conceded 4 goals. Team was:

1.  Andrew Smith
2.  Fergal Slowey
3.  Padraic O'Reilly
4.  Emmet Madden
5.  Finbar Jordan
6.  Dermot Sheridan
7.  Cormac Geoghan
8.  John Cunningham
9.  Andrew Taite
10. Raymond Galligan
11. Cian Mackey
12. Geroid Collins
13. Aaron Duignan
14. Anton Reilly
15. Killian Lynch
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 05, 2007, 04:21:21 PM
Home
Andrew Taite? Cuchullains?
Thats a strong back line,im suprised they conceded 4 goals alright....Smith at fault in goals? hes not County standard as you said before.

i didnt make the game in Navan unfortunately... but what i heard from clubmates who were at it...

 Despite being a top keeper,Miller should have done better for the goal
Forde struggled with Sheridans physical presence in the full back line... which struggled under the high ball....but was good otherwise
Crowe harshly sent off for a trip....
Gunner and Chesty quite good...
McKeever very good at CHB...
McCabe lorded it at Centre Field...
didnt hear much about Mulvey played but i know he got injured
Michael Cunningham started very well,kicked two scores ,but faded out of the game...
Ray Cullivan outstanding throughout scoring 3 points......
Meath dropped an extra man infront of Pierson and Jelly,making it hard for them as Gallagher moved out to Centre Forward to replace McKeever who dropped deep.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 05, 2007, 04:47:58 PM
Wasn't at the game myself BallyhaiseMan heard about it from a friend.

But apparently Smith was poor alright (conceded the first two) and was replaced by Delaney at Half Time he also let in two himself but looked a much better outfit.

Taite (Cuchulainns) was also out of his depth, so they moved Podge out to midfield with Madden moving to Full Back. Contested midfield a bit better alright but conceeded 2 further goals. I'm pretty sure I have the team below right but Geoghan at RHB may be wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 05, 2007, 04:55:10 PM
Simon Delaney or your club mate Terry Smith are the only two county standard keepers for the under 21's in my opinion.
Smith aint good enough.
Cunningham was good for Swad last year.....but unless hes improved his physical conditioning, hes not mobile enough for County Under 21 midfield, but a good player nonetheless...
Good to see Gearoid Collins back,Hope hes fit...a class act in my opinion... his versatility will be a great asset.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on February 05, 2007, 06:54:54 PM
Seen the Crowe incident out of the corner of the eye ,didn't seem to be too much just a tangle between two players, it was the reaction of Coyle more than anything else that got him sent off,racing to and remonstrating with the linesman.

McCabe was man of the match closely followed by Cullivan and McKeever.Gallagher had a good second half showing good vision with his passes for inside forwards.Full back is a major problem,Sheridan was cleaning up possession all night although his use of it was poor.Miller has had many better games,was at fault for the equalising goal and Gunner bailed him out in the first half also.Saying that the ball should never have got back up the field at that stage,Moyles or Sheridan when they had the ball should have being dragged to the ground.If the boot was on the other foot there would've being no way that Meath would've let Cavan in for a goal,call it cynical if you like but you need to be cynical at times to win games ,all the top teams are.
Did anyone think that Mulvey held back going in for a tackle and as a result got himself injured?


Impressed with young Cullivan and thought a harsh free was given against him for over carrying which then led to Meath goal (altough he should have passed inside!).

Don't think the Meath goal came from the incident mentioned,it came after Paul Brady was injured.For a lad who has only turned 18 in November he's a class act,although I still think he too young for inter county.He's as strong as a horse and won't stand back, had a bursted mouth at the end of the game.













Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 05, 2007, 11:34:58 PM
Rossi, thought that Mulvey was hit going through with the ball, didn't look like he was holding back to me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 07, 2007, 10:05:03 PM
From Hoganstand
Brennan in for Breffni Blues
07 February 2007


Cavan have made one forced change to their side for Saturday’s NFL Division 2B encounter with Wicklow under lights at Kingspan Breffni Park.

Michael Brennan comes in at wing back for Jonathan Crowe, who received a straight red card in the sixth minute of last weekend’s clash with Meath. Incidentally, Brennan is a Meathman (from Navan), who previously lined out for the Simonstown Gaels club.

The only other change to the starting fifteen sees Michael Cunningham and Lorcan Mulvey swap positions with the former moving to midfield to partner Dermot McCabe.

Cavan – (NFL v Wicklow) - J Reilly; M Cahill, A Forde, K Fannin; P Brady, E Reilly, M Brennan; D McCabe, M Cunningham; R Cullivan, M McKeever, L Mulvey; G Pierson, R Gallagher, S Johnston
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 08, 2007, 10:19:17 AM
Good to see Brennan getting a game. He was pretty good in the league last year and then was now where to be seen come championship. Hope cunningham stays in the game for longer this week he really went out of it after starting superbly against meath.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 10, 2007, 10:57:32 PM
well lads..very good win tonight
0-17 0-10

1.James Reily-----kickouts were good, made one brilliant save in the second half to deny Wicklow a goal,Is a class keeper. 8

2.Martin Cahill--------- assigned a man marking job on Wicklow Dangerman Tommy Gill, stuck to his task very well and even got forward to help set up scores also.8

3.Anthony Forde----------This was Fordes quiestest ever match for Cavan,didnt see much of the ball, solid in his defensive duties. 7

4.Keith Fannin----------defended well and came forward to kick a lovely score. 8

5.Paul Brady-------Not his best game ever for Cavan,but still was very solid,kicked a good score as well. 7

6.Eamon Reily-------Best game ive seen Chesty play for Cavan yet,defended well and attacked often at pace,did f**k around with the ball at times,but impressed with him. 8

7.Michael Brennan-------My Man of the match,Made some awesome blocks...defended well,always got something on the ball...carried the ball forward at every oppertunity and scored a lovely point at a key time in the second half when Cavan were struggling. 9

8.Dermot McCabe-------done well around the middle of the field,a much more mobile McCabe that we have seen in the past 5 years, sprayed the ball around well,giving some lovely ball in the forwards. 8

9.Michael Cunningham-----wasnt an arthodox Midfielder seemed to be playing between Midfield and the Forward line,Used his pace to outrun the slow immobile Wicklow midfield and kicked a lovely score from play,didnt fade out of the game like he did in other games aswell,impressive. 8

10.Ray Cullivan------outstanding playing as a third midfielder..fielded some ridiculous ball around the middle...linked well with the midfield and rest of the forwards...missed one scoreable free but kicked over 3/4 more...got a dirty dig by one of the wicklow players,went off with a blood injury,must have gotten stitches as he didnt return. 9

11.Mark McKeever-------went through an awful amount of work,not like the vintage type of performances we have seen from him,taking skyscraper points and lovely passing and ballycarrying...But the new captain has shown a newly found work ethic this year.
when his undoubted ability starts to show later in the year,God help his opposition marker. 7

12.Lorcan Mulvey--------replaced at half time,out of place at wing forward,Hes either going to succeed at midfield or nowhere. 6

13.Gerard Pierson-----kicked some lovely scores from play and Frees...is a real handful for any cornerback...replaced by Larry near the end. 8

14.Rory Gallagher-----played a withdrawn role between the half forward line and full forward line... 1/3 45 metre frees...also kicked a lovely left footed point from play. 7

15.Seanie Johnston---------missed a gilt edged goal chance...and was wide from play as well,Not Seanies best day at the office. 6

Subs
Nicholas Walsh----On at midfield for Mulvey with Cunningham switching to half forward....Solid, beaten for a very aerial tussles, made one marvelous one handed grab as well. 7

Cian Mackey----replaced Cullivan,very lively and sharp looking kicked one very good score...and set up various other attacks. 8

Jason Reily------replaced Johnston...set up a score for Gunner, didnt see to much more of the ball. 7

Larry Reily-------prominent when he came on,seems Grimley has gotten to him about passing the ball instead of shooting from site,made a good score.
dont think i missed any subs,but aplogies if im wrong.

Brief story to the game
Outstanding start to the game, we went 0-5 to 0-0 up before going out of the game and Wicklow brought it back to 5-3....
Cullivan,Cunningham and Chesty prominent in carrying the ball forward and we won numerous frees.
in the second half of the first half for a spell of about 10/12 minutes, i dont think we got one break,and Wicklow came back at us...
it was level 0-6 to 0-6 at half time....
It was the same story in the second half, we came out all guns blazing...eventually going 0-11 to 0-6 up with some lovely scores especially from Pierson left footed and off balance,some real slick movementby forward and half backs.
we then fell asleep again,Wicklow came back to within 2 points ( 0-12 to 0-10),They also came very close to scoring a goal but Miller saved brilliantly.
In the last Quarter
Cavan Turned on the style...Lovely scores from Mackey,Cunningham and Brennan included as we tagged on 5 points to make it 0-17 to 0-10, thats how it finished.

analysis
Goalkeeper and defence very sound...
Full back line didnt see that much ball...Half back line with,Gunner Chesty and Especially Brennan was outstanding.
McCabe very good at Centre Field,Cunningham isnt an inter county midfielder,He played well tonight especially when moved into wing forward,Mulvey wasnt good in the half forward line, we have to find out if he is fit to be McCabes Centrefield partner or not.If not
then we have to find who that will be.
Cullivan outstanding in all aspects until he went off,Same with McKeever.
Pierson and Gallagher very good with Jelly having an offday......

Wicklow were poor but we dispatched with them well,
I expect the same against Tipp next weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 11, 2007, 11:27:24 AM
Great report Ballyhaiseman, couldn't make it so thanks for all the info...  don't think that Mulvey is going to make the cut at either midfield or half forward line so do you think that Walsh is the best midfield option for us? Great to see that Brennan did so well last night..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 11, 2007, 12:29:46 PM
Walsh might very well be the best option at midfield if Mulvey doesnt make it...
Ciaran Galligan  Michael McDonald are also in the panel, id expect some of them to get a shot against Tipp aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 12, 2007, 01:29:57 PM
The u21s played Meath again yesterday in Virginia, they won 0-8 to 0-6. Starting team.

1.  Simon Delaney
2.  Fergal Slowey
3.  Emmet Madden
4.  Declan Gallen
5.  Enda McCormack
6.  Dermot Sheridan
7.  ??
8.  Padraic O'Reilly
9.  Padraig Smith
10. Geroid Collins
11. Raymond Galligan
12. Martin Reilly
13. Anton Reilly
14. Liam Duignan
15. Aaron Duignan

Meath had a huge midfield out and Podge and Lukey could only contest to break, McDonald came on at half time with Podge moving back to full back. It was still all breaks, and Cavan were slower to get to them.

Ronan Flanagan also returned to the fray with twenty minutes to go looked fairly fit and lively.

A lot of other substitutions made including Finbar Jordan in at WHB, Andrew Smith into goals (no shots on goals, but Delaney's kickouts were better), Cian Mackey and Killian Lynch were also introduced.

Galligan kicked four fine frees and one from play. Martin Reilly looked our main threat up front and was very unlucky to see one opportunist lob come back of the crossbar, still scored 2 points.

Liam Duignan in at full forward was very poor and taken off at half time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 12, 2007, 01:50:43 PM
Cullivan was outstanding on saturday. He was at the u21 game on Sunday too and was sporting a nasty looking shiner under his eye (seemed to be a couple of stitches too). I don't know did anyone else think this but I thought it was Walsh that accidently stood on him and not the Wicklow man.

Walsh later threw his head back into his man before falling to the ground like he was shot himself under the stand. It was a nasty act.

Cian Mackey's not tracking back nearly cost us that goal with five minutes to go. He was standing in the middle of the field as his man raced through.

We were lucky that Forde was kept quiet as anytime the ball did come his way he would give away needless frees. I hope Hannon or Rabitte regain fitness soon as we can't get away with a full-back that can't tackle for much longer.

I also forgot to mention that Hastings Cup final against Roscommon is on in Longford Slashers grounds next Saturday, at 2:30.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 12, 2007, 02:13:40 PM
Is the Tipp game def next weekend??? 

Ballyhaiseman young cullivan is a fine player.  I seen him last year a few times in the club championship and didn't think he was great, but from the meath and wicklow games it's obvious that he is a class act.  Johnston is after having 2 poor games now although he isn't doing much wrong other than not being as consistant as last year with his point taking.  I think out forwards will cause alot of teams problems if we can get good early ball into them ... anyone agree????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2007, 07:49:17 PM
Was at the match on Saturday. I'd broadly agree with what Ballyhaiseman says in his report. However, I though Forde was very poor at full back. Diving into tackles and constantly getting turned. Surely he knows as full back he is the last line of defence? I don't think he won one 50 50 ball with his man. Best player on the pitch was Cullivan. When he went off things started to go against us a bit. I thought Walsh was excellent when he came on too. My worries are that we are weak at full back, need Gaynor at half back and are  not carrying a goal threat. As I said before Wicklow are a poor team so I wouldn't get too excited about this result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 13, 2007, 10:16:54 AM
Good informative posts by all there, for us out of towners up here in the big shmoke who can't get home for these weekends that matter. >:(

The word from home seems to be still encouraging anyway, let's hope it stays that way. Sounds like Cullivan has made a very promising start but there's a part of me winces when I see our young talent being relied on so heavily so early in their career.

I know he's strong and capable and so on but we will truly never learn the lessons from John Tierney.

Any word when Rabbitte is back, and is there any chance we'd try this Thomas Corr bloke in some of the next few games? None of the players we've tried thus far are in any way adequate as number 3s.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 13, 2007, 10:31:41 AM
i don't think that to many lads are going to be tried out in the league.  A top 2 finish is the target and the management are going to play what they feel is the strongest team in every game.  After 2 league games it looks like they are happy with the 20 or so lads they have used.

Don't think that forde is worth his place this year he gives away 2 many frees and with michael hannon, rabbitte and hopefully gaynor to come back i can't see a place in defence for him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 13, 2007, 11:02:23 AM
That's another thing, where is Gaynor...is he still in Australia, or just the slightly less salubrious surrounds of Ballinagh? A bit worrying that there's no word on him coming back, especially as some reckon he made himself available and was ignored by management...is there some sort of history between him and Keogan?

Madness to leave this guy out of a defence that WILL creak against good opposition.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 13, 2007, 11:23:44 AM
He came back weeks ago.  Sure i don't think he was even away a month.  He tried to ring Keoghan several times when he came home but the wont answer his calls.  He met him in town one nite and keoghan never mentioned football to him.  It's the team that is gonna suffer most because of this i think that we need gaynor in the team and if he isn't brought back soon his fitness levels will b crap.  Every team needs a player who is gonna hit hard and rise oppositon players but of course he is easily risen himself which is one downfall.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 13, 2007, 11:38:45 AM
He came back weeks ago.  Sure i don't think he was even away a month.  He tried to ring Keoghan several times when he came home but the wont answer his calls.  He met him in town one nite and keoghan never mentioned football to him.  It's the team that is gonna suffer most because of this i think that we need gaynor in the team and if he isn't brought back soon his fitness levels will b crap.  Every team needs a player who is gonna hit hard and rise oppositon players but of course he is easily risen himself which is one downfall.

Your spot on 4ever. He's home a month now and mad to get involved. I've even heard that Keoghans fellow selectors have asked to bring him in. But as I said a while back Keoghan has never been a fan of his and is too stubborn to budge on this issue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 13, 2007, 11:48:53 AM
Have any of use seen keoghan durning a game he just walks up and down the line and its grimley that makes all the positional changes and subs.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 13, 2007, 11:59:46 AM
Have any of use seen keoghan durning a game he just walks up and down the line and its grimley that makes all the positional changes and subs.   

Ah no thats not all Keoghan does, he also claps his hands together and shouts WORKRATE! WORKRATE! WORKRATE!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 13, 2007, 12:03:31 PM
True story there Cavan4ever.

Keogan is just the front man, Grimley is the real manager, heard as much from a 'sauce'  ;) I meet occasionally. At least Donal knows his limitations and surrounds himself with people who know what they're at, although Keogie Bear's infuence must still extend to calling the shots on Gaynor's inclusion or not. Shame.

It's a real folly to leave him out and it's all sweetness and light in these honeymoon days of games against weak-ish opposition in February, but come June when the real stuff starts we'll all be tearing our hair out if Gaynor isn't there, martk my words, and then the hard questions will be asked of Keogan. Unfortunately, he'll continue to get away with leaving Gaynor out until the real hard tests later in the year when it's too late to bring him in and train him up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 13, 2007, 12:22:17 PM
Championship Draws

Junior Championship

Munterconnacht v Templeport

Shercock v Killeshandra

Corlough v Cornafean

Arva v Maghera

Butlersbridge v Mountnugent

Kildallen v Shannon Gaels





Intermediate Championship

Ballymachugh v Lavey

Ballinagh v Baileboro

Drung v Drumlane

Drumgoon v Kill

Coothill v Redhills

Ballyhaise v Swanlinbar

Laragh v Kilenkere





Senior Championship

Drumalee v Ramour

Castlerahan v Crosserlough

Mullahorn v Denn

Kingscourt v Cuchulainns

Gowna v Cavan Gaels

Lacken v Belturbet

Knockbride v Killygarry
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 13, 2007, 12:25:17 PM
yeah workrate workrate.   There are lots of peolpe who reckon that the team is better of without gaynor (he will get sent off etc) but i know id be happier to see him in the cavan team than not in it.. I wonder if we set up a Gaynor supporters club here would it help  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 13, 2007, 01:17:07 PM
For all his faults Gaynor needs to be in there come May, he may have a bit too much fire in him at times but i'd prefer trying to take a bit out of a player than trying to put it in. Sorry to see report in Sun Indo about this being Paul Bradys last year with Cavan too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 13, 2007, 03:54:52 PM
I don't know much about the psychology etc. but some players are good enough to warrant carrying on a team to see can they be improved. Alex Ferguson never tried to totally take the bad element out of Keane or Cantona, likewise Wenger with Vieira etc, instead they toned it down but retained the core aggression for the good of their teams. If anyone is cut out to do such a job for Gaynor then it's a thinker like Grimley.

The point is that every team needs a player(s) like Gaynor and Cavan have had precious little of this type of edgy warrior for too long. Moral victories are the best that teams of nice guys get in todays dog-eat-dog gaelic football world. I accept Gaynor is a ticking bomb sometimes but people can be taught to channel aggression legitimately without losing the edge in their play, and in Gaynor's case I think we're dispensing with him before allowing him a concerted chance to prove he can be an asset as opposed to a liability.

Without him, we have alot less steel and we will suffer greatly for it in summer IMHO. Your current assessment of him may well be correct, I can't say, but what I do believe is that it's a mistake to assume he could not and would not change, especially if he's so mad to be involved. He doesn't even need to change too much either...

Who knows, maybe he's been left hanging on the line for a while to make him appreciate his place when or if he does get it back? Or maybe that's just wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 13, 2007, 04:00:31 PM
you made some gud points there.  He really did piss me off in that U-21 final but when he is with the seniors he hasn't been all that bad disipline wise.  Forde or walsh are just as likely to get sent off as him.  Walsh wasn't on last week when he was booked and could have got the line later.  Evertime forde tackles he boxes the ribs of his man ..   Correct me if im wrong but is gaynors disipline record with the seniors all that bad??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 13, 2007, 10:27:48 PM
Bottom Brick - I hear what your saying but for me Gaynor has the potential to change. I'm not shooting you down, just stating an opinion. I would say that he has the ability to be one of the best Ctr backs in the country too. I agree that grimley seems like an ideal person to sort the lad out too. For christ sake he has weened McCabe from taking frees and somehow he has got him fit again. Even Larry looks fit. To finish, there are many lads that whinge that they "have" to play county football - it is nice to know that Gaynor is mad to play. For god sake let the man back in to the panel I say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 14, 2007, 11:18:06 PM
I think Gaynor is needed back on the county scene,If theres a man in the country that can channel that aggression its Grimley.
I hear that Darren Rabbitte will be available against Tipp,
He has to prove he can stay healthy to contribute throughout the year, he does seem very injury-prone,Lyng is also a couple of weeks away from return.
along with soon returning Hannon(5 weeks away) and Johnny Crowe, we should have lots of options in the backline soon.

on a different topic
Cavan Hurling
Cavan Team to Play Longford in the 1st Rd NHL

1 D Sheridan Mullahoran
2 D Neary Woodford Gaels
3 K Downes Cavan Gaels
4 A Nelligan Cavan Gaels
5 M O Gorman Leixlip
6 J Lafferty Carndonnagh
7 A Sheridan Mullahoran
8 M Hill Ballymachugh
9 P Sheridan Mullahoran
10 W Farrell Ballymachugh
11 J Donohoe Mullahoran
12 R O Hagan Mullahoran
13 E Dalton Mullahoran
14 M Mc Entee Mullahoran
15 R O Hanlon Cavan Gaels
16 P Baxter Ballymachugh
17 J Fitzsimons Mullahoran
18 S Og Brady Mullahoran
19 F Coyle Cavan Gaels
20 C Mc Manus Woodford Gaels
21 P Sheridan Ballymachugh
22 S Lee Cavan Gaels
23 K Hanneffy Cavan Gaels
24 M Murphy Cavan Gaels
25 P Brady Mullahoran
26 B Harten Ballymachugh
27 T Craig Cavan Gaels
28 PJ Kelly Cavan Gaels
29 P Devine Woodford Gaels
30 G Clerkin Mullahoran

The prestigious Cavan Hurling get back into action soon enough against Longford.  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 15, 2007, 10:21:23 AM
Thinking bout goin to the U-21 game on saturday.  anyone kno how to get to the pitch??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 15, 2007, 10:33:38 AM
Slashers is located approximately 1 mile outside the town on the road to Ballymahon/Athlone.

From Longford Town the pitch is out past the railway station and past the dog track along a main road.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: C-na-G on February 15, 2007, 02:04:03 PM
What time is the game at?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 16, 2007, 05:02:07 PM
What time is the game at?

Hastings cup final game is at 2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on February 18, 2007, 09:19:16 PM
Went along to the match, here's a few quick observations

1 Slashers is some set up, puts every club in Cavan (not least Chelski Gaels) to shame

2 We may forget about Mackey, he's the exact same as James Clarke was a couple of years ago. You can get away with scorching pace at minor level but when he makes the step up, the lad won't count. Stay on his inside and 4 times out of 5 he'll either solo round in circles and get smothered, overcarry, or kick the ball wide or straight up in the air

3 Raymond Galligan is the best kicker of a dead ball in the county, including his club mate Finbar. Will be good to see can he do it under pressure in a really big match. He looks sluggish on the ball, but worth his place for frees alone

4 Podge is vulnerable against a strong, barrel chested type full forward. The Longford no 14 was extremely limited, but still took Reilly (who I rate very highly) for 3 points

5 We have two big, strong reasonably mobile midfielders, great to see it

6 Simon Delaney's mouth is more notbale than his playing ability. Needs to cut back on the treied and trusted Peter Schmeichel bull, and concentrate on not being lobbed

7 Had we Ray Cullivan around the middle for the hour, we'd have beaten them easily

8 Heard a lot about centre back Sheridan, wasn't at all impressed

9 Slowey is a hardy bit of stuff. Saw him get the mother and father of all roastings for the minors a year or two ago, but he was stead and tigerishy, in the first half at least. Very small though, as is Killian Lynch

10 Martin reilly wasnt at the races in the second half, the jury is still out on this guy

Our usual underage complacency, wasting chances, lack of killer instinct came back to haunt us. Did anyone else feel Cavan had a couple more gears in them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 19, 2007, 10:58:26 AM
Cheers for the report. I'm in two minds as to how I feel about losing this. On one hand you'd like the lads to keep winning all the time but then again we've won this competition numerous times in recent years and it's never done us any good once the real stuff starts in championship. Nobody will remember the Hastings Cup if we do well in championship.

I wouldn't be familiar with the players that aren't on the senior panel but I would say your comments on Mackey are well founded. He's a bit of a one-trick pony IMO, flits in and out of games and needs the ball handed to him because he's not the type to fight for a dirty ball. He's becoming a bit of a luxury player. His club mate Flanagan looks the far classier act, the real deal and in a few years will be an important player for Cavan if he stays injury free.

I'd say Podge will come good too, I also rate this lad highly.

When is the Monaghan game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 19, 2007, 11:46:00 AM
Can anyone name the team which started the Under 21 match, no programmes left when I got there...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 19, 2007, 02:21:43 PM
Any clubs have challenge games at weekend?? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 19, 2007, 02:46:53 PM
Killeshandra had a challenge against the bridge, scheduled for 3 thirds of 25 minutes each. I hear it go abandoned in the 2nd third after a big fist fight couldn't be stopped.

Was Cullivan not playing at all for the U21's? I thought we'd win that but it doesn't really matter.

Mackey has made some decent sub showings for the seniors this year. Do you think maybe the fact that it is U21 means he is trying too hard as he see himself as one of the senior players on the team. Or is he just not up to it??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 19, 2007, 02:54:30 PM
Im not sure about mackey either.  He is light and needs to bulk up alot but then he could lose some of his pace which is all he really has going for him. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 19, 2007, 03:18:44 PM
C4Ever

i got the impression from watching Mackey against Wicklow and Tyrone in the Mckenna that he has bulked up a fair bit over the last year,

Handball Ace with his James Clarke comparison is correct.
Blistering pace can make you stand out at County Minor level where some of your opposition may not be as physically developed as you are,
But at County Senior Level,You need alot more attributes than just pace,because every defender is fast enough to stay with you.
Raymond Galligan is a good player,wouldnt be suprised to see him start alongside McDonald at Centrefield against Monaghan.
wasnt at the under 21 game so like Brick,i wouldnt mind seeing the team that started, if anyone has the time  :)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 19, 2007, 03:27:35 PM
But is he strong enough for inter county football??   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 19, 2007, 03:33:16 PM
Strong enough Yes in my opinion
Good enough, i have my doubts,Despite his great speed,Hes not like a young Larry Reily who could twist and turn a defender inside out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 19, 2007, 03:35:47 PM
In my opinion he is not strong enough and he wont go for the 50-50 balls.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 19, 2007, 03:44:31 PM
To tell you the truth though, im always dubious about these pre season games concerning the amount and what type of training the players were doing during the week,
The Under 21's could have had a hard session the night before(they do train on Friday Nights i believe)
and Mackey amongst others could have been sluggish after it.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 19, 2007, 03:48:38 PM
Yeah well summer football prob suits him better anyway...

It's tipp this weekend anyway anyone know if there is a game the week after or what dates the remaining league games are?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on February 19, 2007, 04:08:42 PM
1 Delaney - spent the game roaring like an ass, then got lobbed. Cant make Kilinkere juniors apparently

2 Slowey
3 Podge
4 Madden

5 Jordan
6 Sheridan
7 McCormack

8 McDonald
9 Cunningham

10 Anton reilly
11 Martin reilly
12 Mackey

13 Lynch
14 Flanagan
15 Galligan

Ronan Fla should have been shot for passing to Mackey when he was one on one, Mackey shot be shot for calling it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 19, 2007, 04:29:20 PM
1 Delaney - spent the game roaring like an ass, then got lobbed. Cant make Kilinkere juniors apparently


 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 19, 2007, 06:12:58 PM
What was the score in the U 21 match lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 19, 2007, 08:03:38 PM
What was the score in the U 21 match lads?

Not sure think it was 1-10 to 0-11, but they lost by two anyway.

When is the Monaghan game?

Paddys Day :-[ at 12 in Clones

We may forget about Mackey, he's the exact same as James Clarke was a couple of years ago. You can get away with scorching pace at minor level but when he makes the step up, the lad won't count. Stay on his inside and 4 times out of 5 he'll either solo round in circles and get smothered, overcarry, or kick the ball wide or straight up in the air

Cheers for the report Ace, but the same was said about Jelly after he made his debut on to the county scene and look at him now (I know he is in bad form at the moment, but come Championship he will still be our most dangerous forward), Mackey will be a match winner for Cavan yet.

Had to go away on Saturday myself and missed the match but good to see there was a strong contingent from the board present.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 19, 2007, 08:39:15 PM
Paddys Day at 12 in Clones   :o  :D Big crowd at that alright
 
isnt there also supposed to be a ficture of league game son the day after Paddys day aswell  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on February 19, 2007, 10:21:31 PM
Score was 2-11 to 1-12

Ray Galligan got 7 for Cavan, 6 frees

Flanagan tapped in the goal

Cunningham got a huge point

Mackey got 2

sub Aaron Duignan got one

Im sure our friends in the Celt and the Echo will have all the details...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rollout on February 19, 2007, 11:50:28 PM
Well, i'd say the echo will anyway.

Good football coverage over the past while, think its doin good work.

Like that bottom line column too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 20, 2007, 08:24:39 AM
How do you players feel about having games on the 18th march? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 20, 2007, 11:02:55 AM
Well, i'd say the echo will anyway.

Good football coverage over the past while, think its doin good work.

Like that bottom line column too.

Yep fair play to the echo, I read it online most of the time and at a single stroke they've managed to completely outdo the Celt and show it up for the apalling rag it can be.

The Celt has left itself wide open for this sort of thing with shoddy standards for years and now it's finally happened. And all the Echo had to do was get a former county player to write an opinion column and another anonymous guy or whatever, and presto, it's miles miles better than the Celt. Fair dues it's about time there was some sort of quality available in Cavan local media it's been shite for years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 20, 2007, 11:16:20 AM
How do you players feel about having games on the 18th march? 

Its pure bullshit, it was bad enough when matches were fixed for Paddys Day but now they want to f**k up the whole weekend. We have Gowna in the first round and if I'm perfectly honest I can't see anybody of either side staying out of the pub Paddys Day.

P.S. I hear the NUI Galway v UUJ quarter final of the sigerson cup is being played in Mullahoran at 2 tommorrow (Wednesday). Podge plays for NUIG. Might make the trip over myself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 20, 2007, 02:55:04 PM
County board don't care about the club player thats one thing for sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 22, 2007, 03:47:18 PM
Anybody off to Tipperary? anglocelt39, have you the pencil and notepad ready? I believe you're our south eastern correspondent for these trips deeper into the interior...

Any prospect of Lyng, Rabbitte, Sean Brady or Gaynor making an appearance, any developments there does anyone know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 22, 2007, 03:51:40 PM
I'm headin down to it, I see it's at one when the rest of the games are half two, whats the reasoning behind that?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 22, 2007, 04:14:37 PM
They do that sometimes when teams have to travel long distance, although i don't remember a game that early in cavan when teams from down south travelled up here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 22, 2007, 07:19:42 PM
Anybody off to Tipperary? anglocelt39, have you the pencil and notepad ready? I believe you're our south eastern correspondent for these trips deeper into the interior


To my disappointment and shame maniac I have to say I look like a non-starter, not terribly happy about that. However there will be one or two other munster sons of breffni lads in attendance so will get the second hand if at all possible. A 1pm throw in at Ardfinnan is a reflection of the high regard in which the large ball game is held in Tipp. Let's say the survival of the game in the premier county is no thanks to certain of their high ranking officals. On our last visit down there the throw in was at 1pm also so as not to clash with, wait for it, a hurling CHALLENGE between Tipp and Waterford up the road in Clonmel. Dressing rooms you would  not swing a cat in and, last but by no means least, not a sign of medical or ambulance assistance when Fannin picked up a nasty enough injury.

Should take them if there is total focus on the job. No inside knowledge I'm afraid, but have heard that Rabbitte and Brady may be available
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 22, 2007, 09:36:42 PM
Has anyone noticed Stephen King has predicted the two results correctly in his column in the Echo, including the draw against Meath...

I'm sure he'll be tipping a Cavan win again this week, would've made a decent treble

While we're on the subject, anyone see those ACFL previews in that paper the last couple of weeks? We were tipped for 7th Division Two, Killygarry tipped to win it, Gaels tipped to top Division One.

Can't remember who was voted likely to bottom out in last place in Div 3! Hardly poor old Maghera again?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 23, 2007, 01:56:48 PM
Cavan (SF v Tipperary): J Reilly; M Cahill, A Forde, K Fannin; R Flanagan, E Reilly, M Brennan; D Thomas, D McCabe; M Cunningham, M McKeever, N Walsh; G Pearson, R Gallagher, J Reilly.

 
Cavan team according to Hoganstand...

Flanagan in for Gunner
Thomas in for Mulvey
Walsh in for Cullivan
Jayo in for Jelly

interesting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 23, 2007, 04:38:17 PM
Good to see flanagan back .. should be strong enough to beat tipp anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Nelly on February 23, 2007, 04:45:49 PM
New Cavan man on the board....

Have to agree King in the Echo and the Podman in the Cavan Life have added a new dimension to GAA reporting in Cavan. Both are excellent. Along with Paul Fitzpatrick.

In relation to Maghera MacFinns, I guarantee you all they will not finish bottom of Div 3 this year, if they do I will eat my jumper!!!

Also I see from the Hoganstand that Mr Lyng is named as a sub on Sunday, good to see him back in the fray.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on February 23, 2007, 04:47:05 PM
Tipperary agreed to a 1 o'clock throw in at Ardfinnan following a request from Cavan.   As a Tipperary supporter, I would much prefer a 2.30 throw in, but the change was made to facilitate Cavan.  Any chance Cavan would repay the favour by losing the game!!!.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 23, 2007, 04:49:53 PM
we said the same against Waterford last year though c4ever  :o

Lack of a physically big full back
Half back line very attack minded....albeit inexperienced
Thomas must be impressing in training to get the spot ahead of McDonald and your clubmate Galligan.
I like the fact that we have two ball winner in the half forward line in Walsh and Cunningham,two extra options for Miller to hit from the kickouts.
Full Forward line even without Jelly will do damage.
Welcome to the board Nelly
my pick for the bottom spot in Division Three would be Mountnugent again,im afraid, not sure their senior team even won a game last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 23, 2007, 04:51:49 PM
Tipperary agreed to a 1 o'clock throw in at Ardfinnan following a request from Cavan.   As a Tipperary supporter, I would much prefer a 2.30 throw in, but the change was made to facilitate Cavan.  Any chance Cavan would repay the favour by losing the game!!!.

hope we dont take you for granted like we did to Waterford last year, hows Football in Tipp getting on anyway these days?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 23, 2007, 04:54:31 PM
don't even mention the waterford game  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 23, 2007, 05:19:24 PM
Good to hear that Lyng is at least on the bench. It suggests two encouraging things, one he's on the way back and two the management aren't rushing him back into the fray either.

I'd still worried that we seem to be persisting with Forde as Rabbitte's stand-in. We simply have to use the league to unearth a better option somewhere, get him in and tuned up, because although Rabbitte is first choice, he's so injury prone you wouldn't depend on him at all.

Definitely an attacking half back line, are we perhaps hoping to stick a big scoreline on Tipp and improve the old scoring averages in a tightly balanced division? That might be folly, Tipp on their own patch won't be that bad I'd say.

Hope Thomas shows up in this game he worked hard against Derry but didn't really impress, best of luck to him, although Walsh is there as an option for midfield if required.

When's Hannon coming back?

Two more points please! :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 23, 2007, 06:04:31 PM
Agree that fluting about with Forde or even Fannin at full back is a real short term solution, that backline would be in serious trouble in the Championship against any decent opposition. Thought they might give Brennan another run at full back this year, incidentally has Crowe been given his suspension yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on February 23, 2007, 06:21:29 PM
In reply to Ballyhaiseman, Tipp played quite well against Sligo and probably should have won the game.  IMO they were the better team that day.   I was not at the Wexford game, but believe we played poorly in that game.  Tipp are very much in transition at present, with quite a few stalwarts having retired from the inter county scene.   Only 7 of the team that played against Wexford in the Tommy Murphy Cup final in Croke Park less than 18 months ago will line out on Sunday.   The newer players are young, but are showing promise of better days ahead.   Like many counties is Div. 2, I reckon Tipp's major problem is a lack of confidence which can prevent them closing out games that they should win.  Earlier this year, they should have beaten Limerick in the McGrath Cup and Limerick beat Fermanagh last Sunday and lost to Dublin by a point.   I think the new National League set up next year will be of benefit to teams like Tipp and we would be very happy to qualify for Div. 3 from this year's league.  Anyway we live in hope and you always hope that there are some good days to come.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 23, 2007, 06:43:56 PM
What about giving Mickey Hannon a run at full back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 25, 2007, 05:46:24 PM
Didn't make it today, was relying on phone updates from one of my fellow breffni exiles in Munster, always a bit dodgy but here goes. Sounds like a real game of two halves. Romped into an early lead, 1-2 to nil after about five minutes. All over a very poor Tipp side in the first half, going in 1-10 to 5 ahead, four tipp frees from Declan Brown. Jason on fire in first half, three points and set up the goal. Pierson good two, although missed one or two goal chances, which can be a bit of a feature with the lad. Cahill and Flanagan also got good mentions in the first half, Flanagan pushing up for a few points.

Second half we seem to have really lost our way-sounds like Tipp started to niggle and we fell for it, the ref. was fairly ordinary by all accounts. We struggled throughout in Midfield. Rake of subs in the second half-Rabbitte, Mulvey, Gunner and Cullivan. Reilly in goals continued to tread the fine line between ultimate cool dude and dopey so and so, conceding a needless free that gave Tipp a bit of a head of steam.

So there we are, fairly comfortable win in the end against a pretty moderate Tipp side. Once again we fail to put fairly moderate opposition to the sword having built up comfortable leads. On the positive side, at least it's good to see that new players are being tried out, no harm for the likes of gunner and johnston to know that there is competition about. According to my source, no sign of Lyng in the match program, not to say he was not hidden away on the bench.

Not a ballyhaise man style comprehensive report, but hopefully some of the returned travellers will fill in the gaps.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 25, 2007, 08:15:42 PM
Just home from the match, some trek to an absolute shit hole, plus the jobsworth on the gate madeeveryone pay full whack if they hadnbt a student card (even if they looked 16) or their student card didnt say 2007, asshole

THE REF WAS THE MOST INCOMPETENT IVE EVER SEEN. ABUSING PLAYERS ETC

Anyway, a very quick recap:

cavan were winning 1-10 to 5 and cruising at h/t, that's the most important thing to remember, they were always going to come back but they never got within three points even

Fannin stood out in second half

McCabe caught some great ball when Tipp came back at us

Gunner came on anad kicked the insurance point in the seventh minute of injury time

McKeever was very good again

Rory Gallagher I thought did well, the Tipp full back was a kn**ker but RG (after being booked for being fouled!) stuck to his task well

Overall, we let them back but we were ten times the better team and they were never going to catch us. Che only thing that kept them in the match at all was Browne's brilliance from frees and play

Walsh looked OK actually, he was replaced by Cullivan at h/t or shortly after, not sure why...

In short, the ground was a joke, the opposition were filthy and the ref was a disgrace, so to come away with a 5 point win wasnt too bad
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 25, 2007, 08:50:03 PM
Bottom Brick thats really good to hear cos from listening to it on the radio it sounded like the wheels were coming off big time in the second half and it almost felt like a defeat in the end...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on February 26, 2007, 10:31:38 AM
I take serious exception to The Bottom Brick referring to a Tipperary footballer as a "kn**ker".   I would have expected something better from a follower of a proud football county like Cavan.  That remark reflects more on The Bottom Brick than it does on any player.   I have followed the game for years and attended matches in many parts of the country, including Breffni Park and I would never refer to any player in those terms.   I believe it takes a good man to play inter-county football, no matter what team he plays for and all players are entitled to our respect.  With regard to the match, I think that Bottom Brick should have been admitted for half price, as clearly he could only see one team.   By what Trim Blue says, I would say that the radio gave a much truer picture of the game.   Cavan won this game in the first quarter, when they started off very impressively, with Mc Keever and the full forward line well on top.  They should have had another goal before their first score. Rory Gallagher is still a fine player and was much more of a team player yesterday, than I remember him when he played for Fermanagh.  Cavan were well worth their 8 points half time lead and looked a very useful team at that stage.  The 2nd half was a different story.  a couple of Tipp substitutions at half time improved the home team quite a lot and Tipp were the better team in the 2nd half, outsoring Cavan by 7 points to 4.  We never looked like saving the game as the goal that was needed never looked likely, but still the lead was down to 4 points entering added time and Tipp had a half chance of a goal before Cavan's last point.    I thought that the referee was too fussy rather than a "disgrace" and despite what Bottom Brick says it was not a dirty game.  By the way, I am fairly sure that Cavan got more yellow cards than Tipp.  Meath and Cavan are in pole position for promotion to Division 2, but Cavan's 2nd half performance would not get them much success in the Ulster Championship.  Nonetheless, i wish them well as i know from experience that the vast majority of Cavan follwers  are true sportsmen, unlike TBB, who is a disgrace to the photo of the great John Joe O'Reilly that is on all his posts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 26, 2007, 10:36:02 AM
Thats you told bottom brick   :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 26, 2007, 11:10:23 AM
Holy Lord. TBB, that's a fair reddener you're after getting there. ;D

Another win for us though, now looking forward to the bigger tests against Sligo and Wexford, these will tell us a bit more about our side and we'd want to be putting in a 70 minute performance in those games - fade outs will result in punishment.

Serious diversion in opinion between the Cavan poster and the lad from Tipp although there's no smoke without fire!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 26, 2007, 11:46:52 AM
 ;D

Calm down there Mr Onlooker...

The Tipp full back was very limited, he spent the entire match digging and elbowing Rory Gallagher, who at one stage pushed him back only to get booked himself...

When he got no joy out of RG, the full back turned on a couple of others. At one stage he was in the centre circle and as McKeever burst past him to join the attack (the ball was at half forward line at this stage) he just stuck out his leg and tripped him, it was unbelievably cynical.

He also niggled at Pierson - he was obviously ripping after the roasting the full back line got in the first half, but he didn't have to act like a tr**p for the remainder of the match.

The ref was a disgrace, but for both teams - at one stage his decisions had got so bad that they were prompting laughter rather than outrage!

One great quip from a Tipp lad beside us. The referee was calling for a change of ball for ages and nobody was kicking one up, eventually Tipp fan roars out, "It's not a ball we ant it's a ref!!!"

Tipp were completely reliant on Browne, as they have been for six or seven years, and resorted to throwing their weight around in the second half (with a bit of success I'm disappointed to say). The number six (another thug btw) was hilarious too - he was such a block of a lad and so awkward that his upper body barely moved when he ran, just his legs... :D

Ardfinnan is also the worst ground I've ever been at for a NFL match. Something similar to Redhills or Drumgoon pitch if you can imagine it...

I wouldn't be too despondent at all. We went to a little kip with long grass to play a shite team with one good player, and despite the ref, we won by five having only played for 30 minutes.

Also,  D Thomas won't make it I don't think...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on February 26, 2007, 12:19:24 PM
Bottom Brick has now added "tr**p" and "thug" to his comments on two Tipperary players.   I can think of a word that rhymes with Brick that would describe him perfectly.   I'd say he is embarassing the true sporting Cavan fans.  Anyway, good luck to Cavan for the rest of the season.  If they play like they did in the first half, they will do fine against Sligo and Wexford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 26, 2007, 12:29:18 PM
Onlooker almost every team has one or two players that opposing supporters would call a tr**p or a thug.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on February 26, 2007, 12:33:25 PM
That's fair enough Cavan4ever, but I did not see any player on the Cavan team yesterday, that I would call a tr**p or a thug or a kn**ker.  Neither did any Tipperary player do anything yesterday to deserve such abuse.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 26, 2007, 12:53:05 PM
im guessing the Donal Thomas experiment is over?
just dont think hes senior county material at present unfortunately.
Onlooker I wish yourself and Tipp the best of luck for the rest of the year,You've been a real asset to this thread for the last 4/5 days.  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 26, 2007, 01:07:43 PM
Only messing Onlooker! :D

The whole Tipp team were absolute sportsmen to their fingertips, they didn't start fouling when the game was gone from them and in no way did Tipp's full back (Foley?) trip Cavan players or constantly dig Rory Gallagher in the back when the ball was up the other end of the field!

I made it all up for the craic!

Come on, get a grip. Every team in this day and age has a couple of filthy players (I know we have a couple) so don't take it as a personal insult when I highlight the carry on of your number three.

Unless, of course, you ARE your number three...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 26, 2007, 01:58:24 PM
Who is next sligo or wexford??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 26, 2007, 02:25:44 PM
Sligo next at home under lights on Saturday March 10th.

Then it's Antrim away, Wexford at home - make or break game for us - and finally away to our great rivals Waterford.

Meath finish up away to Wexford, Sligo have to go there as well after playing us so they could be out of the picture by then depending on how they fare out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 27, 2007, 05:13:18 PM
Anyone alive out dere???

Any news on rabitte getting back soon if it gets much later he won't have much match practice before the championship.  He has missed alot with injury and same goes for lyng so i wonder will either play much part in the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 27, 2007, 10:12:08 PM
I'd say the next game against the tougher opposition will be where they'll get re-introduced...Lyng for one can't be far off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 28, 2007, 09:24:46 AM
Anyone alive out dere???

Any news on rabitte getting back soon if it gets much later he won't have much match practice before the championship.  He has missed alot with injury and same goes for lyng so i wonder will either play much part in the championship.

This is a very good point. At the moment we have three of our most important players not featuring in matches in Rabbitte, Lyng and Gaynor. At least Lyng and Rabbitte are on the panel and have some hope of being match fit for the championship, as long as they get a few games soon. If Gaynor isn't called in to the panel very soon then he will simply not be ready to feature in the summer. I think that unless we are missing some vital information, then this is a very very stupid stance by Keoghan. I can see it now when we get bet in a big match due to not having a tough tacker at CB. Where was gaynor everyone will ask?? What is even more baffling is that Gaynors dedication has never been in doubt, even when the rest of the team (including this yrs captain) were all taking the piss. The lad is mad to play for Cavan which is one of the most important attributes a player can have. So Mr Keoghan, get your thick ass in gear and get Gaynor back on the panel.

Anyone frequenting the imperial of a weekend might pass my message on for me. Cheers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 28, 2007, 12:17:17 PM
i wouldn't hold going on a holiday against him.  Can't see him being back this year now anyway.

As for lyng i heard that about him aswell. i wonder will he ever be the same again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hank Everlast on February 28, 2007, 12:41:19 PM
maybe its not keoghan that doesnt want him back on the panel... isnt grimley the selector?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 28, 2007, 12:49:09 PM
I thought with Grimley's Armagh background, Gaynor would have been a first choice given his teak-tough no-nonsense approach to the game. Ach sure who knows, in the absence of anythign said by management all's we can do is speculate. BNut I would reckon we'lll sorely miss him before the year is out, mark my words. We're in trouble all the time at centre-back and full-back and if you're in trouble there you're in trouble everywhere.

Regarding Lyng, I think we should bear in mind that he got an awful injury, but also almost died shortly afterwards because of some sort of unrelated bowel complaint. He was literally hours from dying. I'd say that's what's preying on the lad's mind and let's face it, a near death experience would make most of us view something as trivial as football in a slightly different light. Hopefully he'll be coaxed back to full health - physical and mental - before too long. But if he's going to be part of the plan for the summer, he needs to be dipping his toe in now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 28, 2007, 12:57:25 PM
Were in a bad way for a full-back alright, rabibite seems to be the only option and if he isn't fit were screwed. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 28, 2007, 01:14:03 PM
How long did gaynor take off??? I reckon he went for 4 weeks maximum. Look up at Tyrone, there lads went for months and were still brought back into the panel. For christ sake he had a tough year playing football  non stop. Bottom Brick - you seem to have a serious problem with Gaynor, is it anything personal? I have never heard stories of him boozing when he shouldn't have been. Not like McKeever who spent a day in Killeshandra on the piss when he should have been at a Cavan v Dublin match in Bawn, a day we got a serious hammering. There is no love lost between my club and Ballinagh, but I still think Gaynor will be badly missed and I think the vast majority of Cavan supporters would rather him in the panel as an option at least.

At full back we are very thin on the ground. I find it very odd that we have not looked at someone else in there. I can't say forde has played one game well this year yet back there. He is a half back in my opinion, or maybe a half forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2007, 01:27:02 PM
Myles
You're completely correct,
I playing with Ballyhaise have had run ins with Ballinagh and Gaynor in particular,but the guy is a class act.Brian McGuigan went to Austrailia for 6 months and when he came back was brought straight back onto the panel and was probably the key element that won them the all ireland that year.
a Gunner, Gaynor and Brennan Half back line would have serious potential.
Rabbitte has to show he can stay fit,if he cant we need to try Michael Brennan at full back,i thought he done well there last year.
It will be Benny Coulter again at full forward most likely on the 5th of June,and we need a player who can compete with him in the air,Micky Hannon wasnt fit to do that last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on February 28, 2007, 08:44:53 PM
On Lyng I heard picked up another knock recently and has prevented his comeback but according to Hoganstand him & Rabbitte are both expected to line out for the Gaels this weekend.

The Gaynor situation is strange.  I guess you'd have to be close to the scene to know whats going on.  On the flipside of that the fact that no stories are emerging points to a united group.  What I did hear in December was that Gaynor told management he wouldn't be back from Oz until April.

Unless as previous posters said we are not privy to certain facts I can't understand why hes not back in.  If he is being used as an example (high profile player on team & in many eyes a certain starter) that no one is immune from the drop then imo its a risky move.
Maybe he will be recalled in April where his fitness & commitment will be guaged.  i.e. if he is serious about playing then he will have kept himself in shape.  I don't know I am just speculating though I really would like to see him back.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 28, 2007, 09:56:10 PM
I knew that the certainties posted by our colleague, as apposed to the opinions that most of you offer, would eventually bring me out of posting retirement.

Gaynor goes on holidays, has been sent off the odd time. Dispense with him-let's see how they do it in successful counties that have considerably more choice than us, take Kerry for instance. At least two of last year's all ireland winning team are in Australia at present. The management team are in touch and they will be offered a chance to prove themselves when they get home. Not a terribly macho or even BBrikish approach, but good enough to win the odd all ireland none the less. Donaghy gets sent off twice in the league so far this season-our man would no doubt have him exiled to Siberia, methinks the Kerry approach will be a bit different.

Good management is about accommodating differences in people. Your approach is grand in theory. You bang on a bit about psychology the odd time, well you don't need to be a psychologist to know who a lot of guys would rather have on their team when the chips are down-a superfit junior footballer with shag all presence and less ability or a 95% fit top class player who would not expect from his team mates any less than he would do himself.

You make some good points sometimes BB, pity you don't sometimes remember that you don't have all the answers to the travails of Cavan football, any more than the rest of us. If you'd been around in the Mid 80's to replace big Jack in that other game, Paul McGrath would never have won a cap...................................

PS-like your footer, we're winning Sam in 07-front or back door-I need to know if my user name is to change come Sept.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 28, 2007, 10:59:54 PM
any new management team should wipe the slate clean with players, let them know what is expected of them and if those expectations are not met then they can have no complaints. Gaynor seems to be treated differently to other players at the moment, God knows if the same rules were being applied across the board then we would only be left with half of last years panel. McKeever is a case in point, if he was being judged on his behaviour last season then he wouldn't have got a sniff this year either but he has been made captain and while I agree with this its a case of double standards when you consider the treatment of Gaynor. When you take account of Gaynors Senior Inter County career I think he at least deserves a chance to prove himself to the new management. If he wants to go back in and make himself available then management should be letting him know the reasons why they don't want him at the moment and telling him what he has to do to get back in, from the various posts here by people who know him and the Cavan set up that doesn't seem to be the case. Of all people Keoghan should appreciate what it is to be given the benefit of the doubt
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 01, 2007, 12:02:54 AM
Anglo Celt, why the personal attacks??

I've just given my opinion, which I am entitled to believe is correct. I haven't ridiculed anyone with a different opinion, or accused anyone of thinking they are some sort of expert.

Bear in mind, this is a discussion board.

If someone posts something with which you don't agree, give your opinion by all means, but don't attack the other person.

I have said that Gaynor is a superb player, but I agree with what I presume are the managements reasons for not including him.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 01, 2007, 09:59:04 AM
Whats the U-21's chances in ulster this year?? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 01, 2007, 12:47:20 PM
Hey folks new poster here, well probably more of an observer than poster.

Anyway take a deep breath, cos I'm from Ballinagh!! But don't worry I won't be littering the board with up the nagh crap that goes on the hoganstand.

Just to give yous more of a Ballinagh related inside track on the county, Podge isn't going in because he is in his final year in college but he will play for county u21s.

P.S wouldn't be surprised to see Gaynor booted of the panel at some stage, not that he is an angel or anything ;D, but Keoghan has it in for him and will send him packing given half the chance.

I have previously made my views clear on the Gaynor v Keoghan situation, but the above message was my very first post on this board, it was a week or so before Gaynor decided to go to Oz. I don't mean it in a 'I told you so' manner, I'm just pointing out that it was quite well known that Gaynor was never going to be given a fair chance this year, even back then.

Whats the U-21's chances in ulster this year?? 

The u21s won against Louth at the weekend 0-10 to 0-07, haven't any team news I'm afraid, but Dermot Sheridan has been named captain this year.

If I'm honest I'd say this years team is not as quite good as our ill-fated 05 season, but still one of our best teams for a while, a decent chance of Ulster imo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 01, 2007, 03:52:04 PM
nothing that we dont already know anyway but still.
Key players could be back for the Sligo game from Hoganstand
28 February 2007


Cavan supporters are delighted with the strong start to the league season by the county side – they are presently on top of their group and very much in contention for a promotion place at the end of the season.

And they could get an added bonus next time out against Sligo in the NFL Division 2B with the news that the Cavan Gaels duo of Michael Lyng and Darren Rabbitte are expected to play some part in this game.

Their return to action is a timely boost ahead of some very important games in the run-in in the league campaign – and is great news for both players who have struggled badly over the past season or more with injuries.

Back fully recovered and match fitness they would greatly strengthen the Breffni panel, and it is expected that they could line-out with their club, Cavan Gaels in their opening round game with Denn in Terry Coyle Park, Cavan this Sunday.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 01, 2007, 04:03:39 PM
Club leagues start this weekend
My Predictions

Division One

Mullahoran v Ballinagh,  Ballinagh win by a couple of points
Belturbet v Cuchullains,  Cuchullains win by 3
Gowna v Ballyhaise,  Ballyhaise Win by the minimum,but i would say that :P
Cavan Gaels v Denn, Cavan Gaels win by at least 8 points,with the returning Lyng and  having a huge impact.
Kingscourt v Drumalee, Kingscourt by at least 5
Drumlane v Lacken, Lacken win by 4
Castlerahan V Crosserlough, Crosserlough win

Divsion Two
Laragh Utd. v Ballymachugh - Laragh with home advantage to win
Bailieboro’ v Knockbride- tough one to call, Baileborough under Vincent Kelly will suprise alot this year,i fancy Baileborough.
Killinkere v Shercock- Killinkere win, a tough opener for newly promoted Shercock
Drumgoon v Drung- Drumgoon win
Lavey v Cootehill-Lavey win by at least 8
Killygarry v Redhills-  i think redhills could do well this year...But i think Killygarry will run away with this division this year. Killygarry by 5.
Swanlinbar v Ramor Utd-  Narrow Ramor Win

Division Three
Butlersbridge v Cavan Gaels B- Local Derby,i fancy the Gaels but not by much
Shannon Gaels v Corlough--Shannon Gaels by a good margin
Maghera v Arva---Maghera to come away with a rare win.
Mountnugent v Munterconnacht--------Munnterconnacht to massacre the worst team in the county.
Cornafean v Killeshandra----------Killeshandra win this local derby
Kill a bye

Division Five
Killinkere v Shercock--------Killinkere have a very strong B Team,so i can only imagine them winning.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 01, 2007, 04:08:45 PM
It will be interesting to see how many of them you get right.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 01, 2007, 04:36:53 PM
 probably less than half ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 01, 2007, 04:44:04 PM
yep early season games are never to predictable.. i can see drung beating drumgoon though thats one you will get wrong  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 01, 2007, 05:09:57 PM
that really is one that could go either way.
Thomas Jackson managing/coaching Drung again this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 01, 2007, 05:13:19 PM
yep it will be tight enough but i think we should edge it  ::)

yeah he is still with us .. good coach but i reckon we will never win anything with him in charge!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 01, 2007, 05:23:09 PM
if youse could get all your available players aka Finbar Crowe :P training and fit,You would be there or there abouts in September/October in Breffini..maybe drungs window of oppertunity to win the intermediate has closed  :-\
should be some interesting ties , anyway im out of the computer lab, and off probably for the weekend, Best of luck to you all playing this weekend cept the Gowna ones  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 05, 2007, 05:13:32 PM
Good weekend of action

we were robbed by Gowna, played them off the field and were caught by a goal with the last kick of the game  :o  :(
gutted, as for the Other results in Division One

From the illiterates on Hoganstand

mullahoran 0-6 1-12 ballinagh
belturbet 1-7 2-7 cuchulainns
gowna 1-7 0-10 ballyhaise
cavan gaels off denn
kingscourt 2-11 1-5 drumalee
drumlane 0-7 0-10 lacken
castlerahen off crosserlough

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 06, 2007, 01:56:47 PM
Heard James Reilly is out for six weeks he didn't play in our league defeat to drumgoon on sunday.  Wasn't speaking to him but with thomas jackson with the county i don't think it is bullshit this time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 06, 2007, 02:26:21 PM
Thats worrying news about Miller if its true, any idea what the injury is?

Was talking to Crosserlough player yesterday (Their Castlerahen game was postponed by Micky D at the weekend), and he told me that one Mr. Gallagher has yet to report for training yet, and did turn up for the match on Sunday but did not bring any gear.

P.S not a bad effort on the forecast there BallyhaiseMan 4/5 that were played anyway, with your own squad letting you down at the death (not that you's weren't unlucky, but yous should have really put them away at that stage).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 06, 2007, 02:34:55 PM
Thigh strain what i was told.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 06, 2007, 02:47:45 PM
Homer
You lads fairly annihilated a very strong Mullahoran team on Friday Night :o

Bad news about Miller,im guessing Anderson will get a chance to make his claim.

Club Fixtures over the next couple of weeks
Sunday 11th March 2007 @ 2.30pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1 ROUND 2
Belturbet V Castlerahan
Referee: Gerry McDermott

Sunday 11th March 2007 @ 2.30pm
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 ROUND 2
Shercock V Ramor Utd.
Referee: Seamus O’Connor

Friday 16th March 2007 @ 8pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1 ROUND 2
Cuchullains V Mullahoran
Referee: Donal Reilly

Saturday 17th March 2007 @ 12 noon
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 ROUND 2
Knockbride V Killinkere
Referee: Jimmy Galligan (Killygarry)

Saturday 17th March 2007 @ 11.30am
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3 ROUND 2
Cavan Gaels V Templeport
Referee: Jim Hyland

Sunday 18th March 2007 @ 12.30pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1 ROUND 2
Ballinagh V Gowna
Referee: Brian Crowe


Sunday 18th March 2007 @ 2pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1 ROUND 2
Ballyhaise V Cavan Gaels
Referee: Brian Seagrave

Sunday 18th March 2007 @ 2.30pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1 ROUND 2
Denn V Kingscourt
Referee: Jimmy Galligan (Lacken)
Drumalee V Drumlane
Referee: Sean Smith
Lacken V Crosserlough
Referee: Joe McQuillan


Sunday 18th March 2007 @ 2.30pm
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 ROUND 2
Drung V Lavey
Referee: Packie Smith
Cootehill V Killygarry
Referee: James Clarke
Redhills V Laragh Utd.
Referee: Gerry Sheridan
Drumgoon V Swanlinbar
Referee: Gavin Smith

Sunday 18th March 2007 @ 2.30pm
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3 ROUND 2
Kill V Mountnugent
Referee: Martin Sexton
Muntirconnacht V Killeshandra
Referee: Felim O’Reilly
Corlough a bye

Saturday 24th March 2007 @ 3.30pm
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 ROUND 2
Ballymachugh V Bailieboro
Referee: Mickey Lee

Saturday 24th March 2007 @ 3.30pm
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3 ROUND 2
Kildallon V Shannon Gaels
Referee: Ciaran O’Reilly

Sunday 25th March 2007 @ 2.30pm
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3 ROUND 2
Arva V Butlersbridge
Referee: Padraig Kelleher
Maghera V Cornafean
Referee: John Emmo
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 06, 2007, 03:17:34 PM
Homer
You lads fairly annihilated a very strong Mullahoran team on Friday Night :o

Mullahoran are fairly spent force imo, i know neither of us have been training that long but that result just showed what "youth v veterans" means at this stage of the year. I actually just checked it up there and the average age of our starting team was just under 23, whereas Mullahoran only fielded 3 players (in the entire match) that were u23.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 07, 2007, 02:52:27 PM
i think Kingscourt will be dangerous this year in Senior League/Championship
walloped a near Full strength Drumalee team...without the injured Clarke and i dont think Gunn was playing either.
Bates is a good manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 07, 2007, 03:44:05 PM
See the county VS team are threw to the ulster final with a big win yesterday. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 07, 2007, 03:48:03 PM
team was

Cavan – Alan O’Meara; Sean Cooney, Barry Coleman, Diarmuid Foxe; Chris Quinn (0-1), Paddy Carroll, Kevin Rooney; Eugene Keating (0-2), James McEnroe (0-2); Barry Tully, Barry Watters (2-1), Adrian Cole (1-2); Gary Daly (0-1), Conor Smith (2-3), Fergal Tackney (1-0).
Subs – Rory Dunne (0-1) for F. Tackney; Ciaran Sexton for G. Daly; Adrian Cooney for B. Tully; Michael Smith for D. Foxe; Gerry Murray for C. Smith

strong team.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 07, 2007, 03:49:47 PM
Would they be mainly virginia lads??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 07, 2007, 03:55:31 PM
Barry Coleman
Eugene Keating
Barry Tully
Adrian Cole
Gary Daly
Conor Smith
are all Virginia lads

Christopher Quinn
Kevin Rooney
Rory Dunne
are Cavan vocational school

I think Sean and Adrian Cooney are Baileborough Vocational school men

Not too sure about the rest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 07, 2007, 03:58:50 PM
A lot of dem lads are getting 2 much football.  They prob played with there club on sunday , schools, yesterday and county minors this saturday it's madness.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 07, 2007, 04:09:33 PM
yep
They should be excused from playing in the Ulster Minor League game against Meath and be allowed concentrate on their Ulster Final.
None of the MaCartans boys will be playing with the Monaghan Minors you can bet!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 07, 2007, 04:11:21 PM
yeah ur prob right. maybe they will b excused .

no word of team for saturday yet anywhere?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 07, 2007, 04:31:26 PM
havent heard a thing to be honest!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 08, 2007, 08:26:05 AM
Mr Keoghan got off light enough in court.  I don't think the rest of us would have got off as lightly. :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 08, 2007, 03:35:36 PM
Team according to northern sound .

Anderson, Cahill, Forde, Fannin, Flanagan, Reilly, P Brady , Mccabe, Walsh, Cullivan, McKeever, Cunningham, Pierson, Gallagher, Jason
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 08, 2007, 04:36:02 PM
Team according to northern sound .

Anderson, Cahill, Forde, Fannin, Flanagan, Reilly, P Brady , Mccabe, Walsh, Cullivan, McKeever, Cunningham, Pierson, Gallagher, Jason

Could be Andersons chance to prove himself with Miller out.

Anyone know why Mickey Brennan was dropped?

Or anyone have any information on the situation with Micheal Hannon for that matter?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 08, 2007, 04:43:40 PM
Dunno homer . Did rabbite or lyng play with gaels last weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 08, 2007, 04:49:17 PM
Dunno homer . Did rabbite or lyng play with gaels last weekend?

Gaels match was called off but they were due to tog out alright. Wouldn't be surprised to see the two introduced at some stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 08, 2007, 04:53:01 PM
They need some action anyway but i can't see it happening unless were winning well which is unlikely as this will be a tough game sligo will be no pushover.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 09, 2007, 10:06:51 AM
Forde STILL at full back. Big mistake, Sligo are the first team we've faced since Meath who will really put it up to us. Have they any class of a big target man full-forward? If so we're in trouble!

I can't believe they regard Forde as a viable full-back back-up, it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 09, 2007, 10:11:30 AM
Well if there not careful if could cos promotion.  who else is there on the panel . Brennan prehaps?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 09, 2007, 12:46:24 PM
Does anyone thiak Mickey Hannon is an option at full back? And what happned to Thomas Corr?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 09, 2007, 01:02:29 PM
Does anyone thiak Mickey Hannon is an option at full back? And what happned to Thomas Corr?

Mossy Corr was dropped off the panel.

I presumed Hannon was injured when he was only named on the bench earlier this year but still no sign of him plying so I don't know what the story is. He marked Declan Browne, Dessie Dolan and Benny Coulter (he tried hard with benny but could't compete with his strength) still Cavans best defender IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 09, 2007, 01:14:02 PM
Forde STILL at full back. Big mistake, Sligo are the first team we've faced since Meath who will really put it up to us. Have they any class of a big target man full-forward? If so we're in trouble!

I can't believe they regard Forde as a viable full-back back-up, it's ridiculous.

Sligo are not a big team in general but they do have that Brehony lad who is handy and would be troublesome at FF. Agree that we are making a mistake leaving forde back there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 09, 2007, 01:51:27 PM
Hannon must be still injured cos he didn't play with drumgoon last weekend
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 11, 2007, 09:16:48 AM
Cavan 1-9 Sligo 0-10

shockingly bad game.

Cavan team

1.Colm Anderson,Kickouts werent great,gave the ball away from a free and wasnt convincing unde rthe high ball.
6

2.Martin Cahill, was up against the very fast number 13 of sligo David Kelly who caused him some problems.Made some crucial interceptions.Overall solid. 7

3.Anthony Forde,Played well,won his battle with Sean Davey,But will be found wanting under the high ball if Cavan persist with him here. 7

4.Keith Fannin, his man dragged him out as a third midfielder,that was a mistake,Fannin done alot more harm going forward than he did, was at the heart of everything good for Cavan last night. 8

5.Ronan Flanagan,Very assured on the ball, a lovely footballer.done very well last night 8.

6.Eamon Reily,Very good last night,Broke forward well and was very assure defensively,Hes definetely growing as  an intercounty CHB. 8

7.Paul Brady,Gunner was very solid last night,His fielding ability is unmatched by anyone on the Cavan team except for maybe Cullivan, If only he was 3 inches taller. 7

8.Dermot McCabe, was ok, Not vintage McCabe by any means,There wasnt much in the way of primary possession won by either sets of midfielders, 6

9.Nicholas Walsh,Decent,started out on a marking job on O Hara,Then switched into Full Forward where he caused a couple of problems.Limped off in the second half. 6

10.Cian Mackey, started in place of the listed Ray Cullivan,Done ok in my opinion,unless he improves i cant see him being in contention for a starting place come May. 6

11.Mark McKeever,Scored a lovely point in the first half,more of the same from McKeever as we have seen in the first few league games, a very solid work ethic combined with flashes of his outstanding ability. 7

12.Michael Cunningham,probably not his best display for Cavan,But tried hard, was switched out onto O Hara after about 25 minutes.Took the wrong option a couple of times,Replaced in the second half. 6

13.Gerard Pierson, Gerard had a proverbial nightmare,nothing went right for him last night,It was just one of those days. 6

14.Rory Gallagher,kicked two wonderful 45's and was very good from open play as well.Best display for Cavan this year so far. 8

15.Jason Reily, Kicked some great frees including an amazing one from out on the right wing.good from open play as well. 8

Subs
Sean Johnston, Held the ball up well when he came on, solid 7
Larry Reily,Didnt have much impact really,But good to see him back in contention 6
Lorcan Mulvey,Punched the ball into the net from a Fannin long ball,Carried the ball well near the end when Sligo were on top. Very good. 8
Martin Reily, only came on in the last few seconds.

Overall a dire game,
Poor tactics by the Cavan management in my opinion,short passing in defense allowing sligo to group behind the ball,Then when getting to midfield,Delivering it long into a forward line completely outnumbered.
Midfield was outgunned.Im Sorry but the McCabe and Walsh combination isnt physically big enough if we are to have any chance come May,Dan Gordon and Coulter would clean them out.
some of the ball handling and basic skills were sloppy at times,but i suppose thats to be expected in early March.
One more comment,i already mentioned the lack of height in midfield.
The overall size of the team from 2-9 is worrying
Small Full Back line
Small Half back line
undersized midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 11, 2007, 05:01:49 PM
Keith Fannin was outstanding last night i thought but as you said Brick,he may not be best suited for corner back...why not try him at wing forward,hes great on the ball.

Darren Rabbitte/Michael Brennan is a must at Full back,
It goes to show the lack of management skills of our opponents in This Division,that they havent got it scouted that we have a small full back line and its vulnerable under the high ball.

team i would love to see the next day

Anderson(im guessing we are stuck with him now Miller is injured)
Cahill
Rabbite/Brennan
Forde
Gunner
Chesty
Flano
Mulvey
McCabe
Cunningham
McKeever
Fannin
Jayo
Gallagher
Pierson/Jelly

Cullivan is a serious injury doubt for the under 21 game next week,
Hannon has had hamstring trouble,but im guessing hes fairly near full fitness
No sign of Lyng last night wasnt named in the subs
Jonathan Crowes suspension is also up,named in the subs last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 11, 2007, 06:44:40 PM
I thought that was a very poor show from us last night and I think only for a generous ref we would have lost that game. Our full forward line were completely marked out of the game with sligos back line sticking to them like glue. I can't remember Pierson or Jason once getting away from their men. Saying that the ball into them in the 1st half was brutal and too slow getting in. Sligo were unlucky to be 5 down at half time. Think they hit the post 2 or 3 times. We did well in the backs in general but they had no really big FF to test Forde. Anderson was a complete disaster, his kicks had way to much height so into the wind they just sit up there waiting for Sligo men to slap them down onto the onrunning sligo forwards. He was also very indecisive on a couple of occasions and could have leaked a goal in that game. I thought Mulvey did very well when he came on. Worst player on the pitch for me was Mackey. He is completely brainless. Always taking the wrong decision, running into five defenders and over turning possesion. Stupid shot from close in for a point when he should have fisted it over. Then with a few minutes left him and johnson totally f**k up a two on one chance for a possible goal or match sealing point. He was even stupid to go running in on his own for that last point after Gallagher had done well to settle us down for a bit of keep ball at the corner flag. How he stayed on the field is a mystery to me.

In general we were a bit clueless when Sligo filtered men back. We have no plan B - a big target man at FF as I see it. Wexford seem to be back on track and they have to play us and Meath. There is a way to go yet before this promotion is earned.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 11, 2007, 10:48:01 PM
I agree about Mackey, he is so frustrating, I generally don't rate him whatsoever but I thought he was better than usual last night

Very impressed with his Castlerahan clubman though, Flanagan is sheer class and a hardy bit of stuff too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 13, 2007, 11:39:26 AM
Didn't make the game - haven't got to a Cavan match all f**king year with one thing and another >:( but always make sure to harvest as much opinion as possible!

Mackey is a luxury item on this Cavan team. He's a pacy stylist who basically wants ball handed to him in plenty of pace so he can speed off. But as time goes by and he leaves his underage days further behind this becomes less and less useful as the modern game simply doesn't allow lads like this to shine, they just get swallowed up. If he had a good brain for bringing others into the game or an absolutely dead-eye aim for the posts when shooting, he'd be worth including but he does not, and will never make it as a county footballer IMHO.

All reports suggest that Cavan were terrible on the night v Sligo, which is worrying. The nearer championship comes and the more tuned up our opponents gradually become as training and fitness levels converge, the worse we're starting to look. But let's not forget, at turn of year we said promotion, one win in championship and perhaps 2 qualifier wins would be progress and I'm holding to that. I'll be far more disappointed if U21s don't show in Ulster although having scouted about, it seems there's three or four more teams in the province who'll be a tad stronger than us this year - as usual. Here's hoping.

As regards seniors, Rabbitte can't come back quick enough with the double-bonus of freeing Forde up for the half-back line where he belongs. He was best centre-half in Ulster a few years ago and might be a better long term option than Chesty, although that said I haven't seen them play this year

Encouraged that Mulvey is still progressing. Held little hope for him at start of year but he hit the ground running versus Derry and has kept going. A bit of bulk and ignorance is badly required in the Cavan team which might be provided by Nicko Walsh - not surprised to see my prediction on him and O'Hara coming true btw - but Mulvey has what Walsh hasn't in a bit of skill to go with it.

Wexford game will be do-or-die, although don't forget Waterford are lurking again too and have been showing up well enough so far this year. We've a way to go for promotion yet it seems.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 13, 2007, 11:52:35 AM
Antrim in belfast will be no pushover either maniac.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 13, 2007, 12:19:26 PM
Yeah you're right, we've struggled at times in all games this year against so-called weaker opposition. Tipp had their moments against us and so did Wicklow so there's no point in assuming we'll go to Belfast and win either.

It'd be galling to miss out on a top two spot second year in a row but hopefully we'll get past Antrim and Waterford, leaving the Wexford game in between as the real acid test. Getting interesting now anyway, even the scoring averages are tight with ourselves and Them Across the Border  ;)  on +14 and Wexford a point behind us at +15.

Are the county U21s out this weekend or the weekend after?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 13, 2007, 12:26:54 PM
This saturday in clones.  I dunno if there will be many at with parades on but hopefully a good enough crowd willl go down to support them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 13, 2007, 01:29:22 PM
il be there cheering on my 3 clubmen on the panel,i think with there being league games next weekend, Less players will drink :P(probably),and there should be fairly sizeable Cavan contingent in Clones.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 13, 2007, 02:01:21 PM
What time is throw-in? I might be able to swing something with work to get down there, if I don't get to see a blue jersey in action soon I think I'll shrivel up and die.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 13, 2007, 02:15:14 PM
I heard from a source that Rabbitte injured his calf when training in the gym which is setting him back on his recovery. He may be in a position to feature against Antrim. Don't know what is going on with Lyng.

I think we will beat Antrim easily enough, they seem to be going worse than ever up there - I expected a bit more from them this year to be honest. Wexford will be a very big game. A win there will probably see us promoted before the Waterford game. Meath have to play Wexford too and they also have to travel to Wicklow. Two dodgy games. Wexford themselves have a potential banana skin next time out against Sligo. Sligo will be really up for that one too. They could do us a huge favour by beating Wexford.

Can't make the U21 game so hope some of ye will be taking notes and post some form of a report here. Cheers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 13, 2007, 02:35:44 PM

Can't make the U21 game so hope some of ye will be taking notes and post some form of a report here. Cheers.

I nominate ballyhaiseman for that seen as he won't be drinking til at least sunday evening!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on March 13, 2007, 04:53:18 PM
new cavan fan on this board,have been reading it for ages."long time reader,first time posting!  :D  some good stuff posted up here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 13, 2007, 04:56:02 PM
welcome footballmad.  yeah its a gud site alot better than hoganstand anyway!! 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 13, 2007, 05:01:57 PM
Welcome footballmad, good to have you aboard.

Will be at the u21 match alright, think throw in is now at 2 but i'll let you now if I'm wrong.

Any word on Cullivans fitness he'd be huge loss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 13, 2007, 05:03:12 PM
it's on at 1.00 according to Aertel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 13, 2007, 05:26:01 PM
Good Friday is on a Tuesday this year according to Aertel, pay no heed to the error-prone fools!!!

Although maybe they have it right, who knows. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day after all. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 13, 2007, 05:29:03 PM
It was originally set for 12 noon, I was told it had been changed to 2 last weekend, but the source wasn't too sure. Aertel could be right for once. I'll find out for sure and post it asap.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on March 13, 2007, 11:20:56 PM
Homer
How are things around Ballinagh ?My roots are in Corlesmore and I remember well seeing Ballinagh in the late 70s-uncompromising football! Is Potahee church in your parish ?I remember the PP who had a dog who used to sit on the altar during Mass.Can we start to talk about the championship ? You must be hot favourites- we are , as they say, in a period of transition and you seem to be flying.I couldn't believe your minors lost to Donegal last year- the previous year, the game in Cross was an epic and could have gone either way so you must be there or there abouts in Under 21.I haven't followed your teams this year-is Lyng fit ?Forde ?Walsh?one more year in Mc Cabe ?Bad memories from our last trip to Breffni when we had it , thanks to Benny, but Paddy O 'Rourkes substitutions were beyond belief and the panic factor showed he had no composure.Still, championship is championship and I expect a good game between the real big two of Ulster football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 14, 2007, 04:32:26 PM
Good to see Virgina win another ulster title yesterday.. is there anyone about today or are use all stuck in the bookies??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 14, 2007, 11:15:51 PM
That's a right run of success for Virginia. How good a barometer is vocational schools success for the county minor side?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 15, 2007, 11:54:53 AM
i dunno they won the all-ireland last year and it didn't do the minors much good.  The county vocational school's team are in ulster final  so there must be some good fotballers in that age group.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 15, 2007, 07:38:23 PM
Couple of super players on the Virginia team, notably midfielder Eugene Keating and full forward Conor Smith

By the way, Monagaghan U21's are a strong outfit, said to be one of the biggest under 21 sides you'll ever see. Shane Smith absolutely ran the show for the seniors down in Ennis last Sunday, he's one to watch at no 11

Ciaran Hanratty is another, the best of them all is defender James Ward in my opinion, player minor a couple of years ago and senior when he was 19, quit the seniors last 2 years but a class act all the same

Cavan's best line imo is half forward with Mackey, Flanagan, Reilly, lot of pace. would worry about the defence though. Geoghan and Dermot Sheridan don't convince me

Hopefully we'll do the job but without Cullivan, i've a strange feeeling we could get pipped
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 15, 2007, 08:20:41 PM
im guessing the team will be something like

Delaney

Slowey
Podge
Madden

Jordan
Sheridan
Enda McCormick

McDonald
John Cunningham

Mackey
Flanagan
Martin Reily

Killian Lynch?
Raymond Galligan
Aaron Duignan?

Anton Reily dislocated him shoulder playing for Ramor,
Cullivan is most likely out, and with Clarke out long term, Our forward options are limited?
Who do you think will be the Corner Forwards Brick?not sure about those two i named.
id prefer Flanagan at CHB.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 15, 2007, 11:30:52 PM
The team is already named Ballyhaise

Delaney

Declan McCabe
Podge
Slowey

Jordan
Sheridan
Geoghan

McDonald
Cunningham

Mackey
Flano
M Reilly

Gearoid Collins
Ray Galligan
Liam Duignan

Strong outfit but short on senior experience comopared to Monaghan. Our midfield are two horses but lack mobility

Good to see Collins back
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: turk on March 16, 2007, 10:41:56 AM
Cavan for the All-Ireland!!

I was up there a couple of weeks ago in Ballyhaise - well it was a spot out west of Ballyhaise - sorry folks, can't remember the name of the place or the pub!

Up Offaly!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 16, 2007, 12:52:08 PM
Redhills?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 16, 2007, 02:17:48 PM
probably Redhills or Buttlersbridge,

Cheers for posting the team Brick, Declan McCabe at cornerback is interesting
dont know much about the Cornafean lads as ive never seen Cornafean play at any level.
Gearoid Collins is a super talent, who can play in any position.Its great to see him back in the Cavan shirt
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 16, 2007, 03:03:04 PM
probably Redhills or Buttlersbridge,

Lads just settle for Drumliffe & The Flying Saucer,has being known to habour a few Offaly men now and again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: turk on March 16, 2007, 03:47:43 PM
Redhills - it might have been.

I swung a left after the bridge on the clones road out of ballyhaise, at the tree.

then swung another left and it was a booser down there a mile or two. that road took me out in cloverhill in the end.

cheers lads!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 16, 2007, 05:13:51 PM
Timmy Duggans place :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: turk on March 16, 2007, 05:24:37 PM
Duggans! that was it.

Best wishes to all in cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 16, 2007, 05:52:05 PM
spent many a night fairly sauced down there,Nice spot,Hope ye had a good one
Best of luck to you Biffos for the rest of the year as well  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 16, 2007, 09:00:04 PM
Turk,

There's actually a connection with that pub and the Offaly All Ireland winning hurling team of 98.I believe Paudie Mulhaire's  father in law ran that pub for a few years in the late 90's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 16, 2007, 11:35:20 PM
Cullivan is definitely not starting tomorrow. The knee must be very bad because he is the type of fella that would play with half a leg.

The starting line-up with him was going to be:

Delaney

Declan McCabe (had his suspension overturned)
Sheridan
Slowey

Jordan
Podge
Geoghan

McDonald
Cunningham

Mackey
Ray Galligan
M Reilly

Gearoid Collins
A.N Other (most likely Liam Duignan or Darragh Gaffeney)
Flano (third midfielder)

Don't know how much this will change now. Podge was missing from training tonight with the flu aswell.

Homer
How are things around Ballinagh ?My roots are in Corlesmore and I remember well seeing Ballinagh in the late 70s-uncompromising football! Is Potahee church in your parish ?I remember the PP who had a dog who used to sit on the altar during Mass.Can we start to talk about the championship ? You must be hot favourites- we are , as they say, in a period of transition and you seem to be flying.I couldn't believe your minors lost to Donegal last year- the previous year, the game in Cross was an epic and could have gone either way so you must be there or there abouts in Under 21.I haven't followed your teams this year-is Lyng fit ?Forde ?Walsh?one more year in Mc Cabe ?Bad memories from our last trip to Breffni when we had it , thanks to Benny, but Paddy O 'Rourkes substitutions were beyond belief and the panic factor showed he had no composure.Still, championship is championship and I expect a good game between the real big two of Ulster football.

Hows things Dubh, Alls well in Ballinagh. Potahee is indeed in the parish, although I don't make as much mass these days as I should.

Cavan probably take the favorites tag alright but I'm sure Down will have sorted out their house come May. Actually we were looking pretty good this time last year but then Waterford threw an almighty spanner in the works. As for last years minors, Cavan underage sides have a sickening habit of letting themselves down. Its a tragedy as some great teams have come and gone and not one bit of silverware since 1996. Forde and Walsh are both fit and both played in the Sligo game. Lyng is about to tog out this Sunday for Cavan Gaels, it will be his first game in over a year.

So we'll look forward to the clash of the titans for now.Good luck with everything (except the cavan game of course).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The TopKat on March 17, 2007, 10:10:55 AM
I do believe Lyng's last competitive match or any match for that matter was the 2005 Senior Championship Final against Mullahorn.
That is an awful long time with no football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on March 17, 2007, 03:40:08 PM
yes lyng is togging out sunday,18 months since his last game. hope the lad gets back to his best. any results from last nights games?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 18, 2007, 04:01:08 PM
we lost the under 21 game to Monaghan yesterday 1-12 to 0-7, wasnt at it. :(
anyone who was say who played well,who didnt etc, Heard Flanagan got a straight red so thats him out for a month.
Bad weekend for me
Today
Ballyhaise 0-02 Cavan Gaels 3-14

The Gaels were awesome, we were very poor.
Just thought id get that out of the way before the slagging starts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The TopKat on March 18, 2007, 04:04:02 PM
Did Lyng feature for the gaels?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 18, 2007, 04:06:11 PM
he came on with about 15 minutes to go TopKat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 19, 2007, 12:59:37 PM
I heard Lyng came on wearing a pair of tights, then split Slowey with a box?

Any truth in this???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 19, 2007, 01:03:48 PM
Ballyhaise man are ye that bad...23...2,  :D :D
I see yer U21s took a beating, did ye not think you had a great team this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 19, 2007, 01:17:23 PM
I heard Lyng came on wearing a pair of tights, then split Slowey with a box?

Any truth in this???

i was down the other end of the field,so i cant say for sure,but yes Lyng had the whole full bodywarmer tight things, and got into an altercation with Slowey,i was told by some of the lads along the line that he threw a punch at Fergal Slowey
Slowey stuck like glue to him,it must have annoyed him alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 19, 2007, 01:19:15 PM
Ballyhaise man are ye that bad...23...2,  :D :D
I see yer U21s took a beating, did ye not think you had a great team this year?

Oh no,
Not content with the Antrim Thread,
You're invading the Cavan one now :P  :D
we arent that bad,it was just a terrible day at the office.
Very disappointed in our under 21's, expected a good run at Ulster this year,But as usual they fail to deliver.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 19, 2007, 01:45:40 PM
I was reading this thread on different occassions, and the think that puzzles me is how many of the posters here convinced themselves that they had a team that could win the competion. I mean, ye were well beaten. Was Keogan manager of the team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 19, 2007, 01:50:31 PM
yeh
Cavan management system always seems to have the same manager for Under 21's and Seniors,Maybe thats something that would want to be looked at.Perhaps someone who can concentrate fully on the under 21's would be better.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 19, 2007, 03:01:01 PM
A lot of the lads on that Under 21 team are over hyped - Mackey, Martin Reilly, Dermot Sheridan to name but three...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 19, 2007, 03:18:27 PM
always thought Dermot Sheridan had the makings of a good County Senior cornerback,
Mackey is definetely overrated, a good player,but hasnt produced anything for the county since Minor
i think Martin Reily will make the grade,But he needs to seriously bulk up,ive seen him disposessed too easy.

i heard from a clubmate that Michael McDonald played well on Saturday,Do yous agree?
wouldnt mind see him tried alongside Mulvey at Centre Field against Antrim with McCabe at Full Forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 19, 2007, 04:37:45 PM
I wouldnt rate Sheridan highly at all

Mackey is a one trick pony but he's only 19, he still has time and he could develop yet

McDonald had a superb first half but wasn't in the match after the break

I like your idea about Mulvey/McDonald/McCabe...I'd love to see McCabe in a full forward line with Jason and Jelly, I'm not convinced by Pierson since he has come back from injury

What about giving Mulvey a chance on the edge of the square??

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 19, 2007, 04:44:13 PM
Mulvey as a targetman could definetely work,
i just wonder does McCabe have the legs for midfield when the ground gets harder come May.
I think Gallagaher has cemented his place in the full forward line now,with his free taking abilities and all, and it will be a 3 way battle between Jelly/Jayo and Pierson for the other corner forward position.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 19, 2007, 05:25:05 PM
Absolutely deplorable second-half display from our u21s on Saturday. Would have to blame some bad decisions on the line for a lot of this. I'll go for BallyhaiseMan style report for those that couldn't make it.

1. Simon Delaney - Not much he could do about the goal made a good save late on, decent kickouts..... 8

2. Declan McCabe - Had the task of picking up Bernard O'Brien (anyone who went to St. Pats would remember his namesake and father, aka Bob). Done well in the first half but was a mile of him in the second..... 5

3. Dermot Sheridan - Tried hard to contain the massive full-forward, broke most high balls..... 7

4. Fergal Slowey - Had his hands full trying to stop Monaghan's speed merchant. Like McCabe, he lost this battle in the second half...... 7

5. Finbar Jordan - One of our better backs but should have drove forward a bit more..... 7

6. Padriac O'Reilly - Not one of Podges better games. Tactic in the first half seemed to involve podge dropping back of his man and covering the space in front of the FF and Slowey's man with Flanagan playing a third midfielder and covering in front of CHF. This worked well but for some strange reason they moved Flano up front in the second half. Podge looked sluggish, I presume he wasn't 100%...... 6

7. Cormac Geoghan - Very poor, let his man through on a couple of occasions and didn't offer us anything regards attacking. Replaced early in second-half should have been earlier...... 5

8. Micheal McDonald - Good in Patches, scored a fine point but should have had another. Monaghan had a horse of a fella midfield and he even towered over McDonald. Struggled to compete with him and lost the aerial battle...... 7

9. Micheal Cunningham - Needed to perform better considering McDonald had his hands full. Great speed to him when he wants to use it..... 6

10. Martin Reilly - Our best player worked tirelessly and constantly tackled back. Made two great blocks in the second half inside our own 21 but he played to deep to be a danger to the mushroom pickers..... 8

11. Raymond Galligan - How the fella lasted the 60 minutes is beyond me. Scored a couple of early frees but then he missed an easy one and the confidence went, that was it for Ray and he continued to put them wide all through the game. Moved to FF after 15 minutes. Had some great ball played into him in the first half but he was to slow to win it. He spent the second half hiding behind his man...... 4

12. Cian Mackey - Did NOTHING, gave a one-two in the second-half, that was his first and last bit of possession. Taken off with ten minutes to go but don't know how Keoghan & co even looked at him for that long...... 1

13. Geroid Collins - Played in more of WHF role and worked hard with majority of Cavan attacks coming up his wing. Totally mystified as to why he was replaced by Liam Duignan at HT...... 7

14. Raymond Cullivan - Played very well especially considering the injury. Fielded a few great balls when moved to CHF, should have had more high balls played into him when at FF..... 8

15. Ronan Flanagan - Played well in first half as a third midfielder. Puzzled as to why the management moved him up front. Worked hard throughout the game one of our better players. Sent off in injury time, by the reaction of his man he didn't seem to have done much.... 8

Subs

Liam Duignan - Came on for Collins at HT, played in on the square. A bit slow and was unable to get any possession...... 5

Enda McCormack - Replaced Geoghan ten minutes into second half. Didn't show any signs of an injury and played quite well...... 7

Aaron Duignan - For Mackey. Not on long enough to rate.

Another year and another disappointment. Would have to put a lot of the blame on the management, made some bad decisions and failed to make the right ones in time.

On another note our home game to Gowna was called off yesterday due to the pitch being unplayable (it actually wasn't too bad). Probably for the best as there was a few sore heads about the dressing room after Trevor Crowe's wedding.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 19, 2007, 07:31:31 PM
Homer, any truth in the rumour on Hoganstand that Gaynor started back with the county last week?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 19, 2007, 11:25:34 PM
Homer, any truth in the rumour on Hoganstand that Gaynor started back with the county last week?

I'm afraid not. Gaynor is flying at training BTW.

You can pretty much take it for sure that Miller hasn't quit, and Elliot is not back either.

Some results from the weekend (Disclaimer: according to Aertel!!).

Division 1
Cuchullains 0-06 1-11 Mullahoran
Denn        1-11 1-10 Kingscourt
Ballyhaise   0-02 3-13 Cavan Gaels

Division 2
Drung       3-02 0-05 Lavey
Cootehill    0-11 1-07 Killygarry
Redhills      2-07 0-07 Laragh
Drumgoon 1-08 0-05 Swad
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 20, 2007, 11:51:07 AM
Was at Clones on Saturday and given that I also had high hopes for our U21s this year, I have to say I was embarrassed leaving.

It was the worst performance and defeat I've ever witnessed from a Cavan underage side and that's saying something when you consider the large corpus of disasters they've been involved in over the years. If there's any small bitter consolation it's that this game didn't follow the familiar pattern of playing well for 55 minutes before losing by a point to less deserving or less skilled opponents; instead we were beaten out the gate fair and square from 1 to 15. Well done to Monaghan, not nice to have your colours lowered so mercilessly by the neighbours but you have to lift your cap to the better team. How good they are can't be gauged by this game though, so utterly wretched were Cavan, but credit where it's due and best of luck to the Farney men later on. The world really doesn't need another Tyrone/Derry U21 success in Ulster and it'd be nice to see someone different win it for a change.

Physique played a big role in this defeat. Monaghan were huge in comparison to Cavan and with the genius of hindsight this Cavan side was apparently great among the lighter ranks of minor but simply haven't grown enough to compete at U21. Man to man, each Monaghan player had three to four inches in height and at least a half stone advantage over the Cavan man, with the exception of the two lads we had in midfield and Cullivan. Everywhere else we were getting skittled out of it in 50-50s. The Parnells team that contested the U21 final in Cavan were all big men - should some of them not have been involved here, no? A moot point now anyway.

Tactically we were totally inept. Anyone with a passing interest in gaelic football will know that your best hope of beating a strong, big physical side is to run them around the pitch with quick, snappy ball and use the spaces. Instead Cavan attacked laterally and ponderously like men in hob nailed boots running through a field of freshly-laid tar. Our hand passes from short distance weren't even finding their mark, the odd occasion when we kick passed, the efforts were risible. It totally played into Monaghan's hands.

We started with Cullivan and Mackey inside and presumably were supposed to hit them with early ball after having belatedly worked the ball into some sort of space around the midfield. It never came in properly, not once, and if it did, weeks too late and only after Monaghan had assembled the mass ranks. Both lads were moved out after about 20 minutes and the men we left inside in their stead never won a single ball all day - although in fairness to them it either came in far too slow, or inaccurately, on the odd occasion we did manage to engineer some sort of an opening.

From 0-4 apeice at the break to 1-10 to 0-4 down after approx 15 mins of the second half tells its own story. Monaghan brought on a few subs at the break, small, nippy fast lads and suddenly they started picking out the corner forwards with low diagonal ball, which brought the other forwards, who had threatened only in flashes in first half, very firmly into the game. This may have been due to the move of our covering defender as someone noted above. Either way the floodgates opened and there was no response from the line. I can only assume that Keogan was there on his own with no Grimley, else I'd be very worried for the seniors too.

Very deflating all things told. Not a scrap of anything positive could you take from it, apart from maybe Flanagan and the number 10. A better sideline team might have got more out of the team but I still think Monaghan's size would have counted in the end. It's all finished for another year now anyway.

Just on Mackey - this guy will never be a gaelic footballer IMO. Total luxury, total waste of space. If other guys aren't doing the dirty work for him and handing him the ball in space, he just doesn't want to know. All hype and no substance and a dreadful disappointment in a Cavan shirt from day one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 20, 2007, 12:57:52 PM
I can only assume that Keogan was there on his own with no Grimley, else I'd be very worried for the seniors too.

I thought the same myself and it was only in the dying stages did I spot Keoghan talking to Grimley in the dugouts. He obviously took a much more relaxed role with the u21s than he does with the seniors (where he runs the whole operation imo).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2007, 02:26:17 PM
Anyone know who the Lavey manager is.  A small heavy fella with glasses who spends most of his time trying to  wind up the opposition players?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2007, 02:29:51 PM
Brian Comesky(spelling probably wrong)?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2007, 02:31:07 PM
For the under 21's its time i think to have seperate managers for the senior and Under 21's,Let one man concentrate fully on each job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2007, 02:44:43 PM
what happened against the gaels ballyhaiseman?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2007, 02:47:34 PM
One of those days,where nothing went right.
we have all had them :(
Only not many teams punish you like the Gaels.
Good win for Drung against Lavey 3-2 to 0-5.
Ciaran Galligan scored two goals at full forward? hed be a handful in there alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2007, 02:54:30 PM
yeah he was good along side barry watters.  He played there when we were playing with the wind and then came out to midfield for the second half i think he is still growing if thats possible!!. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2007, 03:10:12 PM
He hasnt got a shot at claiming a place in the national league so far, Hopefully,Keoghan/Grimley were at the game.
id prefer him at midfield,but hed be some option at full forward,
Still growing  :D
jaysus he must be 6'5 or 6'6 now so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2007, 03:24:19 PM
Yeah id like to see him get a chance but i don't think he will because the managment seem to have a good idea of the  team picked from positions 1-12.  Will Flanagan get a month or 3 months ?  what he do?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 20, 2007, 03:25:49 PM
6'5 or 6'6? Jesus Christ.

I recall that lad playing for the U21s in the Ulster final against Down, is it the same guy? Was with the senior panel too under Coleman the same year but got a bad injury shortly after, I think it's the guy I'm thinking off. He has the size and physique anyway, but don't recall being overly impressed with his mobility or use of the ball but might be wrong...

Nobody seems to know what Flanagan did by the way, including Flanagan himself and the player he fouled by all accounts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2007, 03:31:01 PM
He is very mobile but his use of the ball wouldn't be the best.  He could run the length of the field and kick the ball wide 3-4 times a game.   Probably isn't good enough for inter county but is Walsh or mulvey (has improved alot during this year)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 20, 2007, 04:05:55 PM
Didn't see much regarding the Flanagan incident, Play had been stopped at the opposite end of the field and the referee made his way down to the umpire who was signalling his attention. After a brief consultation he walked over to Flano who was standing a couple of yards away and looked to be very astonished that he was about to be booked. The referee raised the red card and both Flano and his man looked at him with shock, his opponent then proceeded to sympathise with him. Flano then made a bee-line for the umpire; he was pulled away by his own man and began walking off the pitch towards the side line. Everybody turned away to continue with the action and Flano turned around and walked straight back up to umpire and had a few words with him. He was again pulled away by team mates and made his way for the side line once again. Keoghan had made his way out to meet Flanagan and as he did Flano appeared to push/strike him. This brought a bit of gasp from the crowd but he was only demonstrating what had happened on the pitch, showing Keoghan what the umpire perceived as a red card offence.

If the referee puts Flanagan down for striking only he will get one month, but if he also mentions abusing an official he will get three!

Great to see Ciaran Galligan back playing football again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 21, 2007, 03:12:56 PM
Cavan defeated by Tyrone in Ulster VS inter-county (U-18) football final Report from Hoganstand
21 March 2007


Cavan vocational schools inter-county team failed in their effort to win this season’s Ulster schools inter-county (U-18) football final when in O’Neill Park, Clontibret on Tuesday, 20th of March they went under to Tyrone on a scoreline of 2-15 to 1-11.

As the scoreline would suggest this was a thrilling decider from start to finish between two talented sides, with the Tyrone side have that extra edge in attack which saw them sweep to their fourth title in a row at this grade.

Despite the cold and windy conditions both sides served up a memorable game of top-class football which saw both sides go on all-out attack from the off. Over the hour there was some brilliant football, great scores and some tremendous individual performances. In the end, the greater strength in depth of the Tyrone side proved the difference.

With the wind at their backs in the opening half, Tyrone raced into a six points lead after ten minutes play. However, as the half progressed the Cavan side worked their way back into the game and at the interval they trailed by 1-10 to 0-5.

As expected it was Cavan who forced the pace at the start of the second-half, but they were finding the Tyrone defence hard to break down. They were hit by a sucker punch midway through the half when the Tyrone side worked a quick free which sent Paul McAleer clear and he sent to the Breffni net to give his side a nine points lead.

To the credit of the Cavan side they never dropped their heads and they were right back in the match when the impressiv Conor Smith taking a pass from Adrian Cole sent to the Tyrone net. They continued to press forward but despite having plenty of possession they could only add a further two points to their tally.

In the end, Tyrone finished the game strongly adding four points to their tally for a deserved and impressive victory.

This final was a great advertisement for vocational schools football in both counties, and the teams have to be complimented for a thrilling decider in far from ideal playing conditions.

Tyrone – G. Kelly; C. Hegarty, C. Carson, G. Corey; P. Martin, S. Robinson capt., B. McGarvey; P. Devlin, S. Curran; P. McAleer 2-5, 2 frees, K. Corr, M. Rodgers 0-4; P. McNeice 0-1, K. Coney 0-3, D. Carson.
Subs – J. Donnelly 0-1 for K. Corr; G. Treanor 0-1 for K. Coney.

Cavan – A. O’Meara; S. Cooney, B. Coleman, D. Foxe; C. Quinn, P. Carroll, K. Rooney; E. Keating 0-4, one free, J. McEnroe; B. Tully 0-1, B. Watters 0-1, A. Cole 0-2; F. Tackney, C. Smith 1-2, R. Dunne 0-2.
Subs – C. Sexton for C. Quinn; F. Flanagan for K. Rooney.

Referee – B. Rooney from Armagh.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 21, 2007, 03:17:11 PM
Typical cavan team  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 21, 2007, 05:13:30 PM
Wasn't able to go to the U21 match at the weekend. Sounds like it was a total disaster. At the start of the season a lot of us here had mentioned a good performance by the U21's in Ulster being a central part of us having a good season. That has been well and truly blown to pieces. As I understand it nothing much went right for us on the approach to the match with Cullivan playing though injured and Podge playing with the flu. That still doesn't account for such a hammering.

I get this horrible feeling the wheels are loosening a bit on the wagon and i'm just hoping they don't fall off. The seniors have put in two medicore performances in the last two outings. I'd like to see us go up to Belfast and rip into Antrim like it was a championship match - just to get the heads confident again.

As for the wish list for the rest of the seaon - I'll stick with Seniors getting promotion as goal no 1. Beating Down in the championship and maybe Monaghan and having a couple of games in the back door as goal No 2. Dare I say it, could goal number 3 be a decent run in Ulster for our minors??? How do you all rate this years team? Please don't tell me they are the best we've ever produced or i'll cry.

I heard the rumour about gaynor being back. If hes not then that is him done for the season I think. That will be prooven to be a mistake in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 21, 2007, 07:14:38 PM
Yep, just about sums it all up at the moment. There is a worrying feeling that the closer we get to the business end of the season and the better prepared our opponents get, the worse the seniors are starting to look. A bit early for doom and gloom though, we're still unbeaten and the Wexford game will tell us all we need to know about progress under Grimley.

Your senior goals are realistic I think, hopefully they get realised. As for the minors, I'm not going to ask or inquire as to their prospects in the hope that ignoring them will somehow coax a convincing season from them for once.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 22, 2007, 08:45:44 AM
A bit early for doom and gloom though, we're still unbeaten and the Wexford game will tell us all we need to know about progress under Grimley.


Id b worried about Antrim first they are capable of giving cavan alot of problems.  Heard that ciarian galligan is starting which id be wary about aswell.

Don't seen the fixture on Aertel  ::)  . it's a 3.30 throw-in in belfast isn't it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 22, 2007, 10:29:13 AM
If we were supposed to have that good an U-21 panel why was it necessary to play Cullivan, at only 18, whilst injured, and risk putting his development back years.This has being a major problem with management down through the years,too many good young footballers with plenty of potential (the most recent being Lyng) ruined by the stupidpidty (or greediness) of their managers.

 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2007, 02:11:55 PM
C4ever
the game is at 7 or 7.30 Saturday night under floodlights.
i dont know the full team
But i know Gunner is injured
Michael Hannon and Jonathon Crowe are starting.
Lorcan Mulvey replaces Walshe in Midfield
Ray Cullivan and Ciaran Galligan have been brought into attack.

shotstopper
Ray Cullivan was supposed to have damaged his medial ligaments a few weeks ago for DCU Freshers,something which is nomraly a 6 week recovery,Now i know the guy is hard as nails and all,so you could chop a week or two off that,But still id question whether playing him again Monaghan and Antrim this weekend is worth it Long term.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2007, 02:17:00 PM
Cavan ring the changes From Hoganstand
22 March 2007


Cavan manager Donal Keogan has made five changes from the side that edged out Sligo in the last round for Saturday night’s floodlit NFL Division 2B clash with Antrim.

There are two changes in defence which see Michael Hannon and Jonathan Crowe replace Paul Brady and Michael Brennan. Lorcan Mulvey comes in for the injured Nicholas Walsh at midfield where he will partner veteran Dermot McCabe.

The remaining changes see Ray Cullivan and Ciaran Galligan named in attack.

Cavan (SF v Antrim): J Reilly; M Cahill, A Forde, K Fannin; M Hannon, E Reilly, J Crowe; D McCabe, L Mulvey; R Cullivan, M McKeever, C Galligan; G Pierson, R Gallagher, J O’Reilly.


 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 22, 2007, 03:07:11 PM
Its county policy to destroy young players before they develop fully.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 22, 2007, 03:41:25 PM
It's one of few policies they have that's implementened consistently and achieves its objectives, don't knock it... ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 22, 2007, 04:46:50 PM
Anyone goin sat nite??  What time do u reckon it would be when a man would be back in cavan after the game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2007, 04:55:57 PM
well if game at 7.30
probably late starting so 7.35
Half time allowing for stoppages 8.15
Second half start 8.30
End at 9.10pm
Back in Cavan in id say around 2 hours
so 11 most likely.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 22, 2007, 04:59:40 PM
wouldnt b 2 bad have a 21st to go to so that would be time enuf..  are u going urself ??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2007, 05:10:31 PM
as of today im going,with this being a free weekend football wise,
a night out in Belfast after a Cavan thumping of the saffrons :P sounds good.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 22, 2007, 05:11:57 PM
yeah why didn't i think of that  ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 23, 2007, 12:15:13 PM
That's 6 changes from the Sligo game (Miller).Seems a lot, and to be still sticking with Forde at FB is just plain stupid.He hasn't really impressed there in any of the games and they really should give someone else a try out there.It's strange how they seemed to sense they needed to replace him at FB for the Wicklow game and when that didn't work they never bothered trying anyone else since. It looks like that the management are putting all their eggs in one basket hoping that Rabbitte will be (and stay) fully fit for the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PoloGrounds on March 23, 2007, 03:32:06 PM
The team for this weekend is overall a stronger outfit than appeared against Sligo.
It truely was an awful game.Although gunner is a major loss in the half back line it is good to see Hannon back playing.
Not too sure about Crowe,he apparently looked good in the early McKenna Cup games so deserves his chance.Although Flanagan is a good prospect he is on the small side and we need more strength all over the field.

Mulvey in for Walshe should prove interesting.We are struggling badly to get a 2nd midfielder and I fear Mulvey is another impact player as opposed to one who can do it for a full 70 mins.

In the forwards Cullivan is our shining light, a great prospect but I echo the sentiments re flogging him at this early stage in his career.Mackey was poor the last time out and reports of his performance in the U21 match do not read well.I dont think he is going to be up to it at inter county level

Cunningham had performed quite well in the early games but was poor last time out so I think Galligan coming in fresh with an opportunity to impress cant weaken the half forward line

Overall I think we should take this one by 5/6.Would be nice to see Jayo back on the goal scorers list.

Not overly confident re championship time.Down are beatable but Monaghan are looking good.

At least it cant be much worse than last year

55 years and counting!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 26, 2007, 09:28:52 AM
Anyone go saturday nite,  who played well ??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 26, 2007, 10:10:18 AM
Reports


From Hogan Stand

Two cracking first half goals helped propel NFL Division 2B promotion chasing Cavan to a fine 3-10 to 0-15 win over hosts Antrim at Casement Park.

Cavan had to come from behind to win though after Antrim had made the better start and raced into a 0-2 to 0-0 lead after four minutes.

However two minutes later Cavan got on the winning trail when Jason Reilly turned his marker 15 metres out and raced clear before netting in fine style.

Things got worse for Antrim in the 21st minute when ex-Fermanagh player Rory Gallagher put his captain Mark McKeever through for a neat goal.

Paddy Cunningham helped keep Antrim in touch with three converted frees but Cavan still held a comfortable 2-6 to 0-8 lead at the interval.

Antrim played better in the third quarter and they managed to close the gap to 0-13 to 2-8 but points by Gerald Pierson and Larry Reilly gave Cavan some relief.

Then three minutes from time Dermot McCabe wrapped up victory for Cavan when he netted from the penalty spot after a foot block on Lorcan Mulvey.



From Indo

Cavan 3-10
Antrim 0-15

CAVAN dished out another dose of the blues to Antrim in Saturday night's Allianz FL battle at Casement Park with the Breffni men's win keeping them in pole position in Division 2B.
Still, the four-point margin was a little flattering to Cavan who only sealed victory in the closing stages when Dermot McCabe smashed the ball to the net from the penalty spot after his midfield colleague Lorcan Mulvey was foot-blocked in front of goals.
That score put Cavan five points ahead before Ciarán Close tossed over Antrim's final score.
After Antrim led by 0-2 to 0-0, Cavan struck the first blow as Jason Reilly turned his marker and from close range drilled the ball to the Saffrons' net in the fifth minute.
The second hammer blow was delivered in the 21st minute by Marc McKeever as the visitors surged to a 2-6 to 0-8 half-time lead.


SCORERS - Antrim: M McCann 0-5 (1f); P Cunningham 0-4f; D Martin 0-2; S McVeigh, K Brady, E O'Neill, C Close 0-1 each. Cavan: G Pearson 0-6 (1f); M McKeever 1-1; J Reilly 1-1; D McCabe 1-0 pen; R Cullivan, L O'Reilly 0-1f.
ANTRIM - J Finucane; C Brady, P Doherty, G Bell; C McGoldrick, J Quinn, S McVeigh; D Martin, M McCann; K Brady, E O'Neill, A Gallagher; C Close, M Rea, P Cunningham. Subs: J Loughrey for C Brady (23), P Close for Loughrey (32), K Niblock for Rea (54), C McGourty for O'Neill (58).
CAVAN - J Reilly; M Cahill, A Forde, K Fannin; M Brennan, E Reilly, J Crowe; D McCabe, L Mulvey; R Cullivan, M McKeever, C Galligan; G Pearson, R Gallagher, J Reilly. Subs: M Hannon for Crowe (19), L Reilly for Cullivan (36), M Reilly for Gallagher (61),
REF - S McNamee (Tyrone).










Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 26, 2007, 11:09:20 AM
Sounds like another nervy enough victory with the by-now traditional 15 minute fade out thrown in.

Five points from play by Pierson is very encouraging though all the same, less so is the non-appearance of Rabbitte and no word on when his return will be. And even when he does, can we bank on him to stay fit - I don't think so given his colourful medical history.

What did people who attended think of the performance? How did Ciaran Galligan do?

All boils down to a big promotion showdown with Wexford next Sunday now. On current form Wexford look a bit stronger maybe but you'd hope that home advantage and the sense of occasion and what's at stake will drag a big performance out of our lads, akin to the McKenna game with Derry or against Meath in the first round. Besides, Wexford and Meath have to play each other in the final round and one or the other could do us a favour there if we need it, provided we do the business against Waterford which you wouldn't take for granted either of course. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 26, 2007, 12:27:12 PM
Keoghan was on Northern Sound this morning and said that Rabbitt is over his injury but just hasn't played any games. He says that Walsh and Sean Brady will be back for next week but that Cullivan has a dead leg and is doubtful. Cullivan is accruing the injuries now and that is ominous both for the lad himself and the county, but sure we'll never learn. BTW does anyone have any news on John Tierney? Hope Gunner is available as he has been very good so far. Keoghan says too that he was impressed with how Galligan played having been out for so long. Midfield seems to be an ongoing problem with Antrim seemingly doing well there too. Whatever about the Wexford game we will need the likes of Galligans size against Waterford as our loss to then last year was a lot to do with the fact that they had big men in every line. Seems that Sligo were again unlucky not to at least draw with Wexford. They missed a late penalty to draw and had Wexford hanging on for the last 15 mins so hopefully Wexfords form isn't too hot at the moment either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 26, 2007, 02:33:33 PM
Cheers for that Trimblue, didn't see a report on Sligo so if Wexford are having a few problems then it leaves things looking a little easier. It'll still be a tight one at Kingspan Breffni Park though.

Good info there on Keoghan on Northern Mound too. I think everyone has the fingers crossed for Rabbitte this year. It's clear that if he's not fit, we're fucked unless Podge makes himself available or Hannon gets a run there but you wouldn't be too inspired by either option really.

Tierney is someone I haven't heard mentioned in a while. The rumour months ago was that he was playing in America and was "flying" and so on but people just put these things out for the craic sometimes I think. I certainly heard nothing concrete to the effect that he was back playing, had lost weight or was fit etc., but perhaps some of the home-based snoops might know something more recent on that particular issue.

It's a good time to bring up the case of Tierney, if it appears even slightly that we're going the same way with Cullivan, yet again another guy who hasn't even made a senior reputation before he's being leaned on too heavily. Tierney was shaping up as a serious ball-winning option at full-forward for us under Eamon Coleman before the bits started falling off him again, if he ever was to make a return in any sort of shape I'd be delighted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 26, 2007, 09:57:15 PM
Didn't go to Belfast but listened to it on Northern Sound for my sins. As far as I can gather from listening to that lunatic Tynan is that we were just slightly the better team. Very worryingly we seemed to lose midfield 40/60 throughout the game with Antrims McCann running riot. It also seemed that Antrim were pissing through our half back line. I think we were saved by a very poor Antrim full back line that leaks goals and the fact that we got goals at vital times is what won this game. As I suspected the lack of gaynor is starting to show, I don't think chesty is as good in that position as Gaynor. According to Tynan Galligan played well. Crowe was taken off after only 15/20 minutes and replaced by Hannon. No mention if he was injured. Hannon supposedly played well. I think it will be a big struggle against Wexford next w'end and I am more hopeful than confident. One win is all we need to get us over the line so hopefully the team will pull a big performace out.

To end here is a line from Tynan "Antrim are the only county in Ireland, if not in whole world, to contest two all irelands in the same year"????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 26, 2007, 11:29:22 PM
The best example of legendary Tynan-esque bullshittery came when we were playing Limerick in the qualifiers under Mattie Kerrigan. We'd lose the replay in Breffni but in the drawn match it was in extra time and Peter Reilly had a late free to level it. As he was addressing the kick Tynan launched into some atypical nonsensical shpiel about Mickey someone or other who'd played for Limerick against Cavan in a minor game in Ringaskiddy in 1924 the same day Mick Collins wore brown shoes instead of black for the first time because he had a piseog about that although he had a fondness for turnips after his grandmother who's own mother was from near Killeshandra yadda yadda yadda, all the while not telling us all at home in Cavan with out tongues hanging out, if Reilly had saved a draw. The crowd cheered in the background and we were left to wonder was it our fans or Limerick's. Eventually Tynan came back from Useless Information Waffle Waffle la-la Land to tell us the entirely incidental info that Reilly had in fact tapped over the free and Cavan had a draw.

I tell you, the man wants shooting sometimes. Always rambling with total bullshit info nobody wants to hear instead of talking about the match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 26, 2007, 11:33:15 PM
Northern Sound seriously need some new Match commentators alright,didnt make it down to Casement as was otherwise occupied.
that man tynan makes me want to pull my hair out.  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 27, 2007, 10:11:07 AM
Tynan's a dose alright, but at least now he's telling us the score more often.Jaysus there was a time there that he could go through the whole game and only give the score at half-time and full-time and even these he got wrong.I do believe that Northern Sound got a number of complaints about this and he has sorted his act out on this aspect.Why commentators fell they need to do a MO'M when they can't is beyond me.All they need to do is a bit of homework on the two squads and tell us whats happening on the field.For a man who's being commentating on Cavan games this last number of years he seems to find it difficult to pick out the players.(Maybe his eyesight isn't the best).On Sat when Cullivan got injured he picked him out through a process of elimination(it's Dermot McCabe no its not it Mckeever no its not and so forth) ,surely any spectator that was there with a decent vantage point would've known who it was in a few seconds.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 27, 2007, 10:20:35 AM
Wexford game is Sunday according to Aertel.  I though it was fixed to be on saturday evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 27, 2007, 11:22:34 AM
It better feckin' not be on Saturday. I'll only get to the game if it's on Sunday - my first senior game this year. I won't be impressed if they switch it to Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 27, 2007, 11:36:03 AM
Sure it must be on sunday.. do u have the fixtures for this weekend league games??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 27, 2007, 11:44:41 AM
31/03    NFL 1A    Kerry v Tyrone    Tralee    7.30pm
31/03    NFL 1B    Laois v Armagh    Portlaoise    7.30pm
31/03    NFL 2B    Meath v Waterford    Páirc Tailteann    7.30pm
01/04    NFL 1A    Fermanagh v Cork    Clones    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 1A    Mayo v Dublin    Castlebar    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 1A    Limerick v Donegal    Páirc na nGael    1.45pm
01/04    NFL 1B    Down v Derry    Newcastle    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 1B    Louth v Galway    Dowdallshill    2pm
01/04    NFL 1B    Westmeath v Kildare    Cusack Park    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 2A    Monaghan v Offaly    Clones    1.45pm
01/04    NFL 2A    Roscommon v Leitrim    Hyde Park    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 2A    Clare v London    TBC    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 2A    Carlow v Longford    Dr Cullen Park    1.45pm
01/04    NFL 2B    Sligo v Antrim    Markievicz Park    3.30pm
*01/04*    NFL 2B    Cavan v Wexford    Breffni Park    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 2B    Tipperary v Wicklow    Ardfinnan    3.30pm

 8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 27, 2007, 12:00:58 PM
It will be good to get back to breffini on a Sunday!  Saturday games are alright but it good to get out for a few hours on a sunday and clear the head !!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 27, 2007, 03:20:45 PM
i would actually prefer the Saturday Night games under lights,But i makes little difference in reality.

On Keoghans interview on Northern Sound,id like to see Rabbitte back playing as soon as possible, hes the only back we have that can physically cope with Benny Coulter (if hes at full forward) in May.
Michael Hannon is the best man marker in the county,But Coulter was just too strong for him last year.
Hows Larry getting on? does he have the weight off? he still had a bit to get off when i seen him against Sligo.
Disappointed at Crowe being taken off after 20 minutes on Saturday,he seemed prominent enough judging by the commentary.

Not so worried about Midfield now,as it will be pick two out of three from Mulvey,McCabe and Galligan with the odd man out going into the forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 27, 2007, 06:13:16 PM
B'haiseman, do you see any role for Walsh? On the basis alone of his physique and athleticism I would think he should be in there, what was he like against Sligo before going off injured? I also think that he is a better option than McCabe at full-forward when it comes to putting a big man in there. Have to say I'm a bit uneasy about Sunday, we seem to be papering over the cracks a bit over the last 3 matches and its worrying that Antrim could score against us 13 times, hopefully we can get a good win and then lay the Waterford ghost which would set us up nicely for the c'ship. Great to see Pierson getting 5 from play on Sat, for me he is our most naturally talented forward and would get a place on most teams in Ireland when he's on form. Does anyone know if its true that Johnstone broke a bone in his foot?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 27, 2007, 06:25:50 PM
B'haiseman, do you see any role for Walsh? On the basis alone of his physique and athleticism I would think he should be in there, what was he like against Sligo before going off injured? I also think that he is a better option than McCabe at full-forward when it comes to putting a big man in there. Have to say I'm a bit uneasy about Sunday, we seem to be papering over the cracks a bit over the last 3 matches and its worrying that Antrim could score against us 13 times, hopefully we can get a good win and then lay the Waterford ghost which would set us up nicely for the c'ship. Great to see Pierson getting 5 from play on Sat, for me he is our most naturally talented forward and would get a place on most teams in Ireland when he's on form. Does anyone know if its true that Johnstone broke a bone in his foot?

Walsh woulde be my preferred option at full forward if they were going the route of having a targetman,McCabe probably doesnt have the athleticism and  to be an effective targetman,ive seen him at full forward before and the ball can bevery easily broke away from him.He caused trouble for Sligo when he went into full forward,before he got injured,Hes a definite option there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 27, 2007, 08:49:57 PM
I have only one problem with playing Walsh FF and that is we have only given him around 15 minutes there in a competitive game (against Sligo) in which he received one decent ball, won it and was blocked when shooting for goal. I don't think it is practical just throwing a guy in there and booting huge inaccurate crap balls in his general direction. If this is a strategy we want to work on then we should be trying it out in a few games. The key to having a big ball winning FF is the quality of the ball going in. The last time we got that right was against Down in Breffni in the champ a couple of yrs ago, before that vrs Roscommon in Mullingar in a league semi few years earlier. I am concerned that we are a one tick pony and pretty predictable at the moment.

What would you think about a Pierson + johnson/Jason 2 man FF line with Walsh, Mulvey and McCabe in the middle?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 27, 2007, 10:34:57 PM
Walsh, Mulvey and McCabe will get up to alot of ball, whether they catch it or not is a moot point. Cavan have generally opted to spoil in recent years in any case. Walsh is cut out for that sort of negative role and it worked well two years ago until Maughan copped on and we got cleaned out of it in the qualifier game against Mayo.

My preference though would be a McCabe, Mulvey midfield. McCabe will break and win his share, Mulvey too but the latter has a bit more pace (not much) about him. Either way, half back and half forward line need to be on the ball big style; McKeever, Gunner, Forde, Sean Brady etc. And don't forget we have big Ciaran Galligan as a potentially useful third midfielder option if he holds up in the next few games.

The real key point is the delivery to the inside men which needs to be good for smallish men and McCabe definitely has this in his locker. With that in mind I'd stick Walshe inside at 14 and play Johnston and Pierson off him, if the two smaller lads are tied up, Walsh in theory is a good out-ball to hang up there and see what comes off him. It wouldn't need to be inch perfect either as he can bust his way through and clear a space for himself, although too innaccurate is no good as the fecker can't run.

One other thing - Walsh should NEVER be allowed shoot. Win ball, lay it off, those would be the instructions. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 27, 2007, 11:21:42 PM
For better or worse I think McCabe needs to be in midfield, firstly he is still our best man at delivering ball into the forwards and secondly it is a myth that he is a good FF which is based solely on his demolition of Down in 04, think of him in the replay against Tyrone in 05 and more recently against them in the McKenna Cup when he was moved in after about 20 mins, he got 1 point and had every other ball blocked away from him, Walsh was then put in there for the last 15 mins and while I admit we were practically beaten at that stage he cleanly won or broke down ball for the forwards about 7 times and we ended up scoring around 4 points in a row. His big fault is that he has a foot like a triangle and as maniac says he shouldn't be allowed shoot. While there is more football in Mulvey I would still favour Walsh in MF as he will always get up and his man will catch less clean ball than would be the case with Mulvey, he has a better engine too for getting up and down the park. Mulvey or Galligan could be a third midfielder option ....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 28, 2007, 12:06:40 AM
It's great for once to have a bit of choice about who should play midfield. Lets just hope the sick bay stays as quiet as it has been so far this year. As regards some of the 3rd midfielder suggestions, I don't see any point in playing three big men in the middle (ala McCabe, Walsh,  Mulvey or Galligan) much better to have two big men (McCabe and Mulvey for me) and a mobile man that can collect the breaks. Sean Brady would probably be ideal after his exploits with UCD.

I agree with the sentiments about the importance of the type of ball played into the full forward line. Some people (and apparently some of the players) seem to think that putting McCabe in the square and ballooning balls into him is the answer. But if people recall the infamous Down game it was relatively low, hard and accurate balls that went into McCabe delivered from the half back line. Although unfortunately I recall most of them balls coming in from Gaynor.

Seems Podge won't be going into the seniors. Himself and possibly Damien McInerney are heading to NY to play ball this summer. Very worrying news for a Ballinagh man.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 28, 2007, 06:32:40 AM
As a very much part time punter my money is on a draw on Sunday. Ever since we conceded a point via a last minute goal to the Rials in game one, I decided that if we were to go up it would all come down to a last day job with us needing to beat Waterford-kind of poetic if you think about it. Also, when did Cavan ever make it easy on themselves. So that requires either a loss or a draw against Wexford, take the odds on a draw for the crack.

Simple key to controlling Wexford is to get somebody on the Park to wind Mattie Forde up and watch him go off, do we have anybody with the required cuteness/slyness for this, not sure.

I'm not going to go into our weak areas, everybody else has those well highlighted-i.e. entire backline and midfield............looking on the bright side, Waterford have been very disappointing after a promising start and are there for the taking on Sunday week (I know, where did we hear that before). Another thing, Louth and W'meath haven't done too badly up in Div. 1 this year, so who knows, and here's hoping.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 28, 2007, 08:14:31 AM
No one has mentioned Gallagher i think that he is a dead cert to start in the champioship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 28, 2007, 10:23:04 AM
If Cavan are beat on Sunday,their destiny will be still in their own hands.They'd need to beat Waterford fairly comfortable as scoring difference may also come into play.

At the moment

Meath      9 pts
Cavan     9 pts
Wexford 8 pts

This weekend
Meath bt Waterford
Wexford bt Cavan

Meath     11 pts
Wexford 10pts
Cavan      9 pts

Last Games

Wexford bt Meath
Cavan bt  Waterford

Wexford 12pts
Meath     11 pts
Cavan    11pts

Wexford draw Meath
Cavan bt  Waterford

Meath     12 pts
Wexford 11pts
Cavan    11pts



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2007, 10:33:34 AM
Shotstopper - The problem is Meath play Waterford at home this w'end with the potential to put a big score up against them. I suppose on the last day Cavan will know what amount they need to win by. Hopefully it won't come to that and we beat Wexford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 28, 2007, 10:57:11 AM
i wouldn't be worried sure we will hammer waterford  ,wont we ?  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 28, 2007, 10:59:15 AM
The problem is that if Meath and Wexford go into the last game knowing a draw will do either of them. If we have lost to Wexford, the result we get against Waterford will be irrelevant because the way we've played so far this year, there's no way we're going to stick a big score on Waterford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 28, 2007, 11:58:15 AM
The problem is that if Meath and Wexford go into the last game knowing a draw will do either of them. If we have lost to Wexford, the result we get against Waterford will be irrelevant because the way we've played so far this year, there's no way we're going to stick a big score on Waterford.

If Meath and Wexford draw,Cavan will have to beat Waterford by more than Wexford beat Cavan.If Wexford do beat Cavan  it'll only be about a point or two.
Our worst fear would be Wexford winning their last two games and then us losing out on scoring difference to Meath.But as Myles says hopefully Wexford will be beat on Sunday and that'll be that. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 28, 2007, 02:44:16 PM
Good to know we have the measure of Waterford...............
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 28, 2007, 05:05:39 PM
A win on sunday and we will be set up nicely to top the group and division 2 football next year!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 28, 2007, 06:07:00 PM
At the start of the year I would have almost settled for just being in the top 4 and avoiding the TM cup, a part of me is relieved and thankful that we've done at least that, after all look at the mess that Sligo are in now, its not as if we're that much better than them. Having said that Sunday's outcome will have a big bearing on the rest of our year, we will be pulling out all the stops to win and if we fall short at home then all the confidence that is slowly being built up so far this year will be badly dented and we will have few if any excuses to console ourselves with (perhaps with the exception of better options at CHB and FB to come). Anyway, hopefully it will all come together on Sunday and the lads can eat Mars Bars and drink Coke on the bus all the way to the Deise the following week and return the favour..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 28, 2007, 07:10:10 PM
Quote
While there is more football in Mulvey

That's some insult to give any inter county footballer! ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 28, 2007, 11:14:11 PM
Quote
While there is more football in Mulvey

That's some insult to give any inter county footballer! ;)

 remember they also serve who can't really kick that straight
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 29, 2007, 12:28:39 PM
i see ballyhaise have a good new fundraiser out now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 29, 2007, 01:20:14 PM
i see ballyhaise have a good new fundraiser out now.

Just looking at the spreadsheet myself, A very good idea.
http://www.ballyhaisegfc.com/ (http://www.ballyhaisegfc.com/)

What would be everyones picks. Mine would probably be:
 
5.  Ballinagh A to Drumlane
6.  Gaels A to Mullahoran
7.  Gaels H to Gowna
8.  Mullahoran H to Drumlane
9.  Gowna A to Drumlane
10. Ballinagh H to Ballyhaise
11. Kingscourt A to Drumlane
12. Castlerahan A to Drumlane
13. Gaels A to Drumalee

Don't fancy it being a good year for Drumlane!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 29, 2007, 01:33:26 PM
i see ballyhaise have a good new fundraiser out now.

Just looking at the spreadsheet myself, A very good idea.
http://www.ballyhaisegfc.com/ (http://www.ballyhaisegfc.com/)

What would be everyones picks. Mine would probably be:
 
5.  Ballinagh A to Drumlane
6.  Gaels A to Mullahoran
7.  Gaels H to Gowna
8.  Mullahoran H to Drumlane
9.  Gowna A to Drumlane
10. Ballinagh H to Ballyhaise
11. Kingscourt A to Drumlane
12. Castlerahan A to Drumlane
13. Gaels A to Drumalee

Don't fancy it being a good year for Drumlane!!!

10. Ballinagh H to Ballyhaise, OI!!!!!!!    >:(  :D  ;D

havent actually entered it myself,Must do this weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 29, 2007, 01:41:54 PM
i see ballyhaise have a good new fundraiser out now.

Just looking at the spreadsheet myself, A very good idea.
http://www.ballyhaisegfc.com/ (http://www.ballyhaisegfc.com/)

What would be everyones picks. Mine would probably be:
 
5.  Ballinagh A to Drumlane
6.  Gaels A to Mullahoran
7.  Gaels H to Gowna
8.  Mullahoran H to Drumlane
9.  Gowna A to Drumlane
10. Ballinagh H to Ballyhaise
11. Kingscourt A to Drumlane
12. Castlerahan A to Drumlane
13. Gaels A to Drumalee

Don't fancy it being a good year for Drumlane!!!

10. Ballinagh H to Ballyhaise, OI!!!!!!!    >:(  :D  ;D


Thought you wouldn't like that one alright! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 29, 2007, 01:46:09 PM
i think u can only pick the same team once.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 29, 2007, 01:58:38 PM
i think u can only pick the same team once.

Silly me they had in bold and all. In that case:

5.  Lacken H to Denn
6.  Cuchullains H to Drumlane
7.  Belturbet A to Drumlane
8.  Mullahoran H to Drumlane
9.  Gowna A to Drumlane
10. Ballinagh H to Ballyhaise (NAP)  ;)
11. Kingscourt A to Drumlane
12. Castlerahan A to Drumlane
13. Gaels A to Drumalee

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 29, 2007, 02:35:34 PM
Here a random thought
Am i the only one who finds the Gaels having teams in Divisions One and Three
and also one in Division Four a bit strange, if they want a  third team they should have to put it in Division 6,Like Killygarry do.
This isnt designed to be an anti Gaels rant..The Gaels are a team i hold alot of respect for.But that team in Division Three was previously the Gaels entry to the Reserve League,They should have to start at the bottom of the pile with their Thirds.
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 29, 2007, 02:42:24 PM
Going from the old divisions from last year it is probabaly right.  All the 1a teams from last year are in division 4.  Killagarry are div 2  and 5 and there third team played in 3a last year so it is divison 6 now. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 31, 2007, 10:56:03 AM
Looks like I won't be able to make the game on Sunday which is really pissing me off :'( :'(. Now I'll have to put up with that tynan fella on Northern Sound. Please someone post a report of some sort next week. Good luck to the lads anyhow, would be great to get promoted one game out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 01, 2007, 08:02:43 PM
As a very much part time punter my money is on a draw on Sunday.




Ahem...................won't get too smug folks, this is merely a recovery of accumulated losses from the books. Hope some of ye got on, if so, join me in Fraher Field next Sunday and I will accept commission.

I only got to listen to the first half today via the broadband connection. Sounded absolutely bloody dire. In fact the only improvement from a Cavan man that I could detect was yer man Tynan on commentary, maybe he's an observer of this board. I say improvement because I at least got some hint of what was going wrong-namely-Midfield totally cleaned out, two man full forward line that was  not working at all (don't know if it was the quality of ball going in there) and a backline that did not seem set up to counter Wexford's main threat, Mattie Forde (presume the selectors had heard of him).

So, as predicted, all down to the final day against Waterford. This is all down to which Deise team turns up, and I will be able to get a bit of inside stuff on that later this week. Two years ago we put 7-14 on them in Dungarvan in a farce before a farce of a different type last year. They are in the doldrums at the moment, but would not put it past their coach (Kiely) to coax one last kick out of them. He would get great pleasure out of doing it against us, because they (rightly) found some of the stuff written about them in the match program from last year's game to be gratutious and insulting.

Having said that, if we cannot get into the top two from here, we don't deserve it. As for the championship, we really need to get some sort of midfield system sorted out, and fast. Our defence ain't the best, but the best defenders will have trouble if the middle is being over-run, Down and (hopefully) Monaghan, will pose as much of a threat around that area as, ahem, Antrim and Wexford. Two years ago when we had our bit of a run, McIlkennon managed to paper over the cracks in that area by having midfield swarmed by the likes of McKeever and the late Finbar O Reilly, among others. Might be more of the same this summer if we are to progress.

Anyway, off to spend some of the winnings!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 01, 2007, 08:47:57 PM
Cavan 0-11 Wexford 0-11

a Jason Reily equalising free 6 minutes into injury time to level it up after Jayo and Pierson both missed chances to equalise,earlier in the prolonged period of extra time.
Why 6 minutes plus of extra time,
Absolute disgraceful time wasting by Wexford,Every second minute,a Wexford man was lying down with them comfortabely in the lead.
Lorcan Mulvey was sent off about 10-15 minutes into the second half,when he stuck his arm out when  Mattie Forde sidestepped him, Forde held his face like he had just been hitten by John Duddy.
Forde wasnt finished there, he "connected" with  Michael Hannon's face near the end which had the Cavan fans on the terrace side in uproar(dont know if it was a closed fist or not),yet received just a yellow
Poor game in marvelous conditions.
Pacy Wexrford Full Forward line caused us endless problems in the first half. with Fannin replaced early on and Anthony Forde moved off Paddy Colfer(wearing number 8,but at full forward)
Mattie Forde scored some amazing points,Gave Fannin a very hard time,thought it was a bit harsh to take him off all the same.
Paul Brady played well,but lacked his usual sharpness,very expected seeing as he was playing Handball over the weekend.

Ratings
1.James Reily, Kickouts good, made one good block in the second half,didnt have very much to do. 7

2.Martin Cahill,The Pacy number 13, Ciaran Lyng hgave him lots of problems, 6

3.Anthony Forde,Paddy Colfer was causing him lots of problems in there,Not a full back,Played well when moved out the field though. 7

4.Keith Fannin,Given a bit of a roasting by Forde replaced after 25 minutes by Hannon. 6

5.Michael Brennan,Attacked well,but was up against a serious speed merchant in number 22 Adrian Flynn,and struggled when Flynn ran at him, Replaced near the end, Overall Good performance. 7

6.Eamon Reily, Got some breaks and carried the ball well i thought,wasnt in the game enough to impact it greatly though. 7

7.Paul Brady,Very good in all aspects,attacked well,won breaking ball and distribution was top class. 8

8.Dermot McCabe,had very little help at centrefield,done very well though,Kicked a marvelous score near the end to bring it to within 1. Only Cavan Midfielder to do any clean catching around the centre,For all the criticism he takes, we would be lost without him. 8

9.Lorcan Mulvey,Showed power,but impacted the game very little,switched to full forward at the start of the second half,then was brought back out,Got send off for a tackle on Forde.Probably not his best day in Intercounty football. 6

10.Ray Cullivan, Had an offday aswell by his standards, Kicked a lovely point from play and scored a free,but also missed two frees,id expect him to score.Caught one crucial ball near the end to set up a Cavan attack though. 6

11.Mark McKeever,was outstanding,workrate unbelieveable, his Ball Carrying set up most of cavans best work, and kicked a lovely and crucial score near the end,also made a tremendous block in his own half in the first half and tackle well in the 2nd. 8

12.Ciaran Galligan,another who had an offday,Cavan fucked him around,alternating between half forward midfield, and later Full Forward,it probably didnt help. 6

13.Gerard Pierson,Not the Pierson performance we've come to expect,Missed what could have been a crucial score near the end,Will be better once he gets sharper though. 6

14.Rory Gallagher, started well,in a withdrawn role which had him as a half forward,but was sloppy in his ball handling,and made some mistakes,Kicked a good free,but more is needed from open play from Gallagher. 7

15.Jason Reily,Kicked the crucial equaliser,was probably the best of the inside forwards, and also blasted what was a goal chance over earlier on,although the ball broke off him a fair bit,losing possesion,Done ok though,workrate was very good. 7

Subs
Michael Hannon,Best Cavan player on the field for me,Stuck to Forde like Glue,and held him scoreless,Attacked well throughout,launching some very good runs through the wexford backline. 9

Sean Brady, wasnt involved much 6

Martin Reily,lost possession a  few times,but his good tackling won a crucial free near the end. 6

Michael Lyng,Brought on near the end,Not involved that much,good to see him back though

Jonathan Crowe,Brought on in injury time,Battled hard and won a crucial break to set up a Cavan Attack.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 01, 2007, 10:32:09 PM
Very dissappointing display today which has completely tempered any notions I had of us doing well in the Championship/Qualifiers. Midfield is a serious problem and it looks to me like Walsh will have to come in there especially as Mulvey will now be suspended after getting what I'm sure was a straight red.Galligan isn't an option, he's big but not physical enough and he doesn't seem to have good hands. We're not picking up enough breaking ball either with only McKeever doing his share, he was great today and Hannon really stood out too, right from the first ball he got and made a good run up the pitch. Overall I thought the defence did alright, Brennan was solid and Brady stood out too. Gallagher was very poor and if Lyng gets in shape then it should be a straight swap as they are both essentially playmakers but Lyng is far more dynamic. Great just to see Lyng back but I also thought he played well enough too. I can only think that Pierson will never play as bad again, his freetaking was shocking and he had some poor second half wides from play at crucial times near the end, he has done it before in the big matches so hopefully it is a case of him getting sharper. Cullivan was hot and cold with one dreadful miss from a free in particular in the second half, but on balance he is a real gem, got a right clatter in the face near the end which the linesman couldn't have missed but nothing was done about it. On the subject of frees why can't they kick the ball off the ground especially for the close in frees? Our free-taking today was woeful and nearly cost us dearly. On the plus side we kept at it and put in what could loosely be described as a storming finish, the spirit seems to be good and there were many times in the past when we would have lost this sort of game by 3 or 4 points. Hope we do the business next week and get promoted and get a few more games in the league too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 01, 2007, 10:56:55 PM
Trim Blue
with problems in the full back position and the midfield position alongside McCabe,
 1 or 2 extra league games would be very advantageous.
Wouldnt be so quick to give up on Galligan,He was very good against Antrim.
the problem with Having Walsh alongside McCabe is its a smaller than average intercounty midfield. They will be giving up 2 to 3 inches against the Likes of Dan Gordon etc,Thats a big ask to contest a ball with a guy a fair bit bigger than you at that level.

Wouldnt mind Walsh and McCabe if we had Galligan and Cullivan in the half forward line, 4 Ball winners.
Wouldnt be worried about the full forward line,

We have Pierson,Gallagher,Lyng,Jelly,Jayo etc all battling for places,lots of options.i think Jelly and Pierson will be starting against Down, with  one from Gallagher/Lyng/Jayo at full forward
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 01, 2007, 11:24:28 PM
Hope your right about Galligan and you will have seen more of him than I have, in fairness anyone coming back from being a year out will need time but my instinct watching him today was that he won't cut it at midfield for us, dropped one terrible ball in the first half too when he went up unopposed near their goal and should have taken his point at start of second half when he went for goal but he could be forgiven for that. For me Walsh just gets stuck in and mentally he is tough, I think he has a big game mentality too (had a good run in 05). His leap allows him compete with bigger men in the way Joe Dillon used to do years ago so I wouldn't be concerned with the likes of Gordon. In relation to breaking ball dare I say it we could do with Gaynor but it looks like we will have to wait at least a year for that possibility providing he keeps his nose clean. Lyng needs to be CHF or at least in the half forward line so he can send in passes from there or run at the defence, think Jelly broke a bone in his foot and he was still limping heavily today so not sure how he fit he'll be come the Down game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 01, 2007, 11:38:10 PM
Galligan may not cut it midfield,you could be correct but,i see no problem with trying him wing forward,hes athletic and a good player.Also a good target for kickouts,As he will be a mismatch for most wing backs.
Pity to hear about Jelly.
Would disagree about Lyng in the half forward line,
I think that line is set now, with Cullivan,McKeever and  a pick from Sean Brady/Galligan/Cunningham.I think Keoghan/Grimley favour the two ball winners in the half forward line alongside McKeever approach to make up for the lack of a genuinely effective midfield partner for McCabe,and i for one agree with that.
Lyng would be effective in the full forward line,if the ball was played right to him,He would be a danger everytime he got the ball.Hes also a much better ability to win clean possesion(low ball) going into the FF line,
i lost count how many times actual decent ball played into the full forward line,was being dropped or bouncing off our players,many times losing momentum and possession,that wouldnt happen with Lyng.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on April 02, 2007, 04:37:45 AM
I think the free taking is an issue that will have to be sorted out .All the fowards seem to be taking frees and missing their fair share.I assume there it is planned beforehand but I would like to know the reasoning behind this.Will Lyng now be taking one or two against Waterford ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 08:24:26 AM
Balyhaiseman im afraid that you are wrong about galligan.  His performance yesterday was similar to what he does in the majority of club games.  He hasn't a good pair of hands and i think cunningham will be straight back in when he gets fit again.  I heard mulvey drew the boot on forde yesterday but i didn't see it myself.  Forde is a tr**p anyway he buried his elbow into hannon's head in the second half and was supposed to have been at the same craic against sligo.  I don't think that the 2 man full forward line is working well now teams are just dropping a man back in front of them and covering the space which means the ball has to be perfect which it rarely is. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 02, 2007, 10:42:47 AM
Not a bit surprised to hear there was a bit of actin the maggot going on by Wexford, and Forde in particular. Pity such a great player can't have a bit of manners. When we played them down in Wexford park a few years ago (Division 1 and another draw), it got right hot and heavy on the sideline with Coleman, McIlkennon and Paddy Mac getting some right abuse from the Wexford mentors. Coleman momentarily lost it, forgot who he was in charge of, and referred to the Wexford crowd as, quote, "free state bastards". Brilliant. On the pitch Forde acted the gom that day too, drawing blood from his marker (McGovern?).

A pity about not clinching promotion yesterday is that the Waterford game could have been used to give a few blokes some much needed game time, Lyng and Rabbitte.

Regarding selections, you can take it that Sean Brady will play if fit, he's vice captain, I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 10:54:11 AM
i wonder what would be the chances of Sean Brady staying fit he is another player who is injury prone. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 02, 2007, 11:54:26 AM
A pity about not clinching promotion yesterday is that the Waterford game could have been used to give a few blokes some much needed game time, Lyng and Rabbitte.

Keoghan was interviewed on NS after the game and he said that Rabbitte had another setback at training on Tues night and it was unlikely he'd play any part in the league.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 12:10:59 PM
A pity about not clinching promotion yesterday is that the Waterford game could have been used to give a few blokes some much needed game time, Lyng and Rabbitte.

Keoghan was interviewed on NS after the game and he said that Rabbitte had another setback at training on Tues night and it was unlikely he'd play any part in the league.


Thats not good news atall.  Good to see lyng back yesterday though he did alright the couple of times he got on the ball.   Gaynor is definately a big miss aswell and his temperment is no worse than mulvey's who let his county down last year aswell.  Hannon did a great job on forde and is a def starter now for the championship. He may get a hair cut though or people will think he is gaynor in disguise.  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 02, 2007, 12:58:26 PM
Quote
Gaynor is definately a big miss aswell and his temperment is no worse than mulvey's who let his county down last year aswel

Fair point, Mulvey would definitely want to lay off the "hard man" image.

I'm still laughing at that comment on here last week that some fella wouldn't have the same skill as Mulvey!!  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 01:08:28 PM
did Mulvey get a straight red?
would that mean him missing the Down Game?
C4ever
i think we all especially me want Galligan to succeed in making the county team,we dont see too many players of his size with enough talent, However you've seen him alot more than me,so il take your word for it.

Must agree with Gortnaleck

Pierson,Jayo,Cullivan,Gallagher and McCabe all were taking frees today,They should settle with one right footed and one left footed and stop all the chopping and changing,
My Personal choice would be Lyng to take those favouring a right footed kicker, and McKeever to take those suitable for a leftfooted one.

Anglo
I think we just need to give up on Rabbitte making it back for the championship,With all the training hes missed,i doubt he would be sharp enough to play against Down, Without any high intensity(National League Semi final etc) games behind him.
what worries me now,who is going to play full back.
Anthony Forde was caught out with the aerial ability of Paddy Colfer yesterday,Im shocked it took an opposition team so long to pin point that weakness.

Brick
would agree that will most likely be the team,mine would be a bit different.

1. Miller

2.Hannon
3.Brennan
4.Fannin

5.Flanagan
6.Forde
7.Gunner

8.Mulvey(if not suspended)
9.McCabe

10.Cullivan
11.McKeever
12.Cunningham

13.Pierson
14.Jelly
15.Lyng
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on April 02, 2007, 01:38:36 PM
Good spirit in the end to rescue a point yesterday.  We are in the same position we found ourselves this last 2 years neding a win to secure promotion.  Meath 05, waterford 06 and Wateford again, third time lucky maybe. :)

As regards our championship starting 15.  Here would be my definite starters based on the games I have seen.

GK James Reilly.  Though we do need backup here, Anderson doesn't fill me with confidence,
FB Micheal Hannon & Martin Cahill
HB Paul Brady
MF Dermot McCabe
HF Ray Cullivan & Mark McKeever

Sean Brady (as someone else on here pointed out) will definitely start also.  I expect him to be named in the FF line but playing as a 3rd midfielder.

Then imo all other positions are up for grabs.  Hopefully we will have 3 more games to give the likes of Lyng & Johnston time to get match fitness.
Does anyone know what suspension Flannagan got?





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 02, 2007, 01:40:04 PM
agreed, if Rabbitte is injured again it's time out for the championship. It's not as if the lad was ever the next Darren Fay at any rate. I'll have to take your word on Mickey Brennan at full back since I don't see much ball kicked up at home. I was at the Wicklow match in Aughrim last year and Mickey was ROASTED at full back. Grand when he had the ball in his hand, the defending was a huge problem that day anyway. Was subbed at half time that day. Maybe it was a one off, but it was pretty awful.

Now I'm going to cause Brick to have a dose of the vapours but it seems that there may be one option left to explore at full back and that's the man who plays on the edge of the square for the Neagh by times, yes Gaynor. A gamble, yes, but we are in serious trouble in that position. If John O Mahony can wait on Kieran McDonald to get himself into shape perhaps Donal can take a similar view for the good of the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 01:51:25 PM
did Mulvey get a straight red?
would that mean him missing the Down Game?
C4ever
i think we all especially me want Galligan to succeed in making the county team,we dont see too many players of his size with enough talent, However you've seen him alot more than me,so il take your word for it.


I could be wrong but i though that he got a straight red, i didn't see a yellow before it anyway but may have missed it.  IF it was a red and it was for kicking he would be out till end of june.  I'd love to see galligan doing well but im sorry to say he just isn't good enough.      We have being talking about the full back position here along time now and there is still nothing done about it.  Colm Hannon should have been brought into the panel weeks ago he is playing well for drumgoon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 02:26:06 PM
Indeed Colm Hannon would be a great addition to the county panel.
Didnt know he was even back in the country to be honest.
Would certainly fill the void at Full Back,but its probably a bit late in the year now to be bringing players in,With the club championships not starting until July,I doubt he would have the fitness at the moment.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 02:36:20 PM
Yeah it is prob a bit late but id like to know what the management were at all year.  Is it possible that they think forde is best option at full back or did they have all there eggs in the one basket hoping that rabbitte would be fit.  It's a bit of a joke that we are heading into another championship without 1) decent full back 2) Gaynor and 3) a midfilder to play along side mccabe.  Cunningham could end up there when he is fit he might be the best of the rest. 

Id like to know what anyones views are on martin cahill at corner back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 02:42:01 PM
Martin Cahill is a good player,
Lacks the ideal  speed to really be able to stay with Lightening quick corner forwards like Ciaran Lyng yesterday and Young Kelly of Sligo before though.
If we were dealing with the Down Forwards,only player id be afraid of him against would be Daniel Hughes.,Definetely worth his place on the team in my opinion.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 02:45:50 PM
yep i agree.  whats gonna happen Fannin though id say Hannon will get the other corner.  Would love to see him get a chance at wing back or wing forward.  He is one of not many players who can kick a long range point and is also a good free taker.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 02, 2007, 02:50:38 PM
Quote
1. Miller

2.Hannon
3.Brennan
4.Fannin

5.Flanagan
6.Forde
7.Gunner

8.Mulvey(if not suspended)
9.McCabe

10.Cullivan
11.McKeever
12.Cunningham

13.Pierson
14.Jelly
15.Lyng

No Jason? No Cahill?

I think they are both definite starters for me...

Cahill has been excellent thus far. M Hannon is our best corner back (could he do a job full back?) and while Fannin is a superb ballplayer, he's not a corner back.

He would be much better suited to wing back, possibly at the expense of Ronan Flanagan.

Chesty is doing OK at 6 but he doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 02:53:20 PM
to be honest with Rabbittes probable unavailability i wouldnt be suprised to see Michael Hannon at full back against Down for the second year in a row with Fannin and Cahill in the corners.
IF Coulter is at centrefield,id have no problem with this..But Hannon cant compete with Coulters aerial abilities as we seen last year, few Players can, Hannon is outstanding though.
Fannin would complete one hell of a half back line with Forde and Gunner in my opinion.
Obviously with Chesty,Flanagan and Brennan possibely losing out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 02:57:27 PM
Quote
1. Miller

2.Hannon
3.Brennan
4.Fannin

5.Flanagan
6.Forde
7.Gunner

8.Mulvey(if not suspended)
9.McCabe

10.Cullivan
11.McKeever
12.Cunningham

13.Pierson
14.Jelly
15.Lyng

No Jason? No Cahill?

I think they are both definite starters for me...

Cahill has been excellent thus far. M Hannon is our best corner back (could he do a job full back?) and while Fannin is a superb ballplayer, he's not a corner back.

He would be much better suited to wing back, possibly at the expense of Ronan Flanagan.

Chesty is doing OK at 6 but he doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

I think highly of Cahill,But i think in Rabbittes absence Brennan is one of the few backs,(alongside Gunner,but we cant afford to sacrifice him for a man marking job),that could compete with Coulter at Full Forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 03:06:25 PM
Anyone know how coulter is playing anyway there isn't the same chat about him as there was last year.  Down are struggling at the moment and confidance must be low in there camp but i supose the teams that are beating them are alot better than the ones were struggling to beat and draw with. 

i dunno about brennan at full back i think they will leave forde there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 03:11:06 PM
I seen on the Down Thread,they were debating whether Coulter was training at all,Thats obviously a good sign from Our point of view,Hes obviously not at his best.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 04:20:50 PM
yeah he isn't scoring the amount of goals he did last yr anyway. I think we could beat down but im afraid of monaghan in both league and championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 05:04:04 PM
Home draw – but Cavan still have promotion destiny in their own hands
02 April 2007


Cavan and Wexford turned in a real competitive encounter on Sunday, 1st of April at Kingspan/Breffni Park, Cavan with the sides finishing on level terms 0-11 apiece. The stakes were high in this game for both sides, and this showed over the duration of the game as the tension at times seemed to get to both teams.

The opening half was closely contested with the sides afraid to make mistakes and at the break it was the visitors who were ahead by 0-6 to 0-4 after Wexford led at one stage by five points 0-6 to 0-1.

Wexford were down to 14 players just before the interval break when wing-half back George Sunderland received a second yellow card.

The home side started the second-half with a numerical advantage, and were expected to come more into the game. However, it wasn’t to be as Paul Bealin’s side worked hard all over the field, and more than held their own with the home side. With the game heading towards the final quarter it was Wexford side who looked the likely winners now leading by four points 0-8 to 0-4 and playing with some confidence.

And things seemed to be getting better for the visitors when the Cavan midfielder Lorcan Mulvey received a straight red card in the 44th minute. However, in adversity the Breffni side lifted their game and points from the Gowna duo of Pierson and McCabe reduced the leeway. Wexford hit back with two further points to go ahead again by four points with 15 minutes of normal time in the game remaining. Ciaran Lyng point in the 58th minute was to prove Wexford’s final score as the Cavan side upped their game and urged on by the big local support they finished with a brace of points from Gerald Pierson, Mark McKeever and veteran Jason Reilly to leave a point between the sides with time almost up.

In a frantic last few minutes there was tension and excitement galore. First Wexford lost another of their key defenders centre-half back David Murphy who received a second yellow cards.

In the additional five minutes extra-time the Belturbet Rory O’Moore’s marksman Jason Reilly converted a late free to give his side a share of the spoils, and leave Cavan’s promotion hopes in their own hands to their final game away to Waterford on Sunday next. A win would see them gain automatic promotion and a semi-final place as well. There is a lot now handing on this Waterford game on Sunday next down in the ’sunny south-east’.

Referee Gregory Walsh from Antrim had his hands full in this game which threatened at times to get out of hand. Over the duration of the game he issued three red cards and ten yellow, and awarded a total of 27 frees, 18 to Cavan and nine to Wexford over the course of almost 80 minutes play. With so much at stake for both sides there was no ’half measures’ and the players went in for the ball as if their lives depended on it.

On form this season, this is a game that Cavan can and must win as Waterford have struggled badly in the league to date, and they suffered a heavy defeat to Meath last Saturday evening in the competition in Pairc Tailteann, Navan. However, in saying that it was a similar scenario last season when the Waterford side came to Kingspan/Breffni Park in the final league game and ended up party poopers on that occasion.

Cavan – Jimmy Reilly; M. Cahill, A. Forde, K. Fannin; M. Brennan, Eamon Reilly, Paul Brady; Dermot McCabe 0-2, Lorcan Mulvey; Ray Cullivan 0-2, Mark McKeever 0-1, C. Galligan; Gerald Pierson 0-2, Rory Gallagher 0-1, Jason Reilly 0-3.
Subs – Michael Hannon for K. Fannin; S. Brady for C. Galligan; M. Lyng for Rory Gallagher; Martin Reilly for M. Brennan; Jonathan Crowe for M. Cahill.

Wexford – John Cooper; C. Morris, P. Wallace, B. Malone; George Sunderland, D. Murphy, A. Morrissey; P. Colfer, T. Howlin; A. Flynn 0-2, R. Barry 0-1, E. Bradley; C. Lyng 0-3, P. J. Banville, Mattie Forde 0-4.
Subs – N. Murphy 0-1 for P. J. Banville; P. O’Dwyer for E. Bradley; D. Fogarty for P. Colfer; G. Gorman for A. Flynn; A. Doyle for A. Morrissey.

Referee – Gregory Walsh from Antrim.

 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 02, 2007, 05:09:48 PM
Hate to bring up the same argument again but it is surely time for keoghan to swallow his pride and bring Gaynor into the panel. I wasn't at the game but was talking to a few of my buddies and they tell me that it was very poor from us. They also claim that the ref had lost control and no one knew what he was at coming towards the end - maybe it was all the diving that Wexford were at that made it difficult for him. It seems that Gallagher doesn't have the balls to play for Cavan (I'm basing this on the games I was at too). I was also told that jason hardly touched the ball in open play - he doesn't seem to have the speed anymore - altough he is the only one with a real goal threat. Jason would make a good sub. We also learned that when a team targets our FB with high ball then we will be in trouble (Can't believe that no team really tried this on us to date) I'd be a but more radical than most on the team line up....

Miller
Hannon
Rabbitte
Fannin (one poor show doesn't takle him of my team)
Forde
gaynor
P Brady
McCabe
Mulvey
Cullivan
McKeever
Lyng
Pierson
Walshe
Johnstone

Bench: Jason, Cahill, Larry, S Brady, Gallagher, Cunningham (decent bench)

I think we need size at FB and FF. if Rabbitte isn't going to make it then the management need to act fast and get someone in to try out at least. The Forde experiment has failed. Maybe Colm Hannon. They need to do it now!!

I also think it is critical that we get some size in the FF line. It is too easy for teams to drop a sweeper back into  the pocket and stop the nice low ball going in. We need someone in there that can break the high balls. I think Walshe might do that but they'll have to start trying him out very soon.

I suppose we could look at this from the optimistic stance and say that we are learning our strengths and weaknesses - now all we need to do is act on that information
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 05:20:08 PM
I heard 2 weeks ago that the selectors were thinking of bringing in Colm Hannon.  Don't think gaynor will be back and DK should be ashamed of himself for not letting him back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 02, 2007, 05:27:09 PM
Yeah we could have done with Gaynor, but then could you take the risk when he could easily go and do what he did at a similar stage two years ago when he got sent off at a vital time in that must win final league match against Meath.

On another note,

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I was also told that jason hardly touched the ball in open play

Bit harsh, he skinned his man and fired a rocket over the bar to kickstart the revival just before half time, then he fisted a point at a crucial stage in the second half.

I've been a severe critic of Jayo in the past, but I think he's worth his place this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 02, 2007, 06:29:15 PM
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Gaynor is definately a big miss aswell and his temperment is no worse than mulvey's who let his county down last year aswel

Fair point, Mulvey would definitely want to lay off the "hard man" image.

I'm still laughing at that comment on here last week that some fella wouldn't have the same skill as Mulvey!!  :D

BB I'm glad I tickled your funny bone, I said that Mulvey would have more football in him than Walsh and as pathetic as it sounds you'd have to agree, while Mulvey is no Canavan you couldn't see Walsh scoring the sort of points he got against Derry in the McKenna Cup for example. Having said that I'd have Walsh in there but with Mulvey likely to be suspended its academic anyway. The more we go on the more McKenna's absence is being felt in midfield, does anyone know whether Paddy Brady will ever make himself available for Cavan again? BTW Jayo kept at it yesterday and I think he's worth his place, came more into it in the 2nd half and his fisted point was down to his determination and persistance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 07:04:52 PM
Paddy Brady was playing for the Gowna Reserves in Division 4 against our Reserves yesterday morning.But He Must be trying to recover his fitness levels,
Because what im told from Club mates some who were there and some who were playing,He wasnt terribely impressive.
Next year is the earliest for a Paddy Brady comeback.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 02, 2007, 08:06:13 PM
I agree about Walsh/Mulvey, the sad thing is I remember seeing Walsh as an Under 16 bombing over five or six points from play regularly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 08:12:21 PM
Walsh can score,he has decent enough feet,hes just more interested in the physical exchanges nowadays than playing his own game,and is more likely to hand pass to another player when in scoring position rather than shoot.
Coleman/McElkennon got him into the mindset of being a destroyer at midfield.
Thats ruined his allround game in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 02, 2007, 08:42:08 PM
Walsh can score,he has decent enough feet,hes just more interested in the physical exchanges nowadays than playing his own game,and is more likely to hand pass to another player when in scoring position rather than shoot.
Coleman/McElkennon got him into the mindset of being a destroyer at midfield.
Thats ruined his allround game in my opinion.
Fair enough point, its been a bit of a problem over the last 10 years that midfielders defer to McCabe at the expense of developing their own game, a combination of a spoiler and ball player is a good idea but we have never struck the balance right
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 02, 2007, 10:41:27 PM
Good submissions there by all observers!

I was initially just happy to finally get along to a game - perfect weather, decent crowd, sprinkling of big names on show, but what a disappointment the game was.

First off, I always realised Stampey Forde had nastiness in him but I didn't know Wexford in general played with such a sickening, snidey cynical edge in their play. I hope the f**kers are sick to have conceded the equaliser that effectively ends their promotion hopes, so deep in injury time, as it's the perfect poke in the eye for them after all the time wasting that went on. From the goalkeeper taking a week to kick out to every outfield player lying down for a week after a tackle, topped off by Forde going  over like a dying swan when no contact had been made and then taking Hannon out of it late on. Good riddance and enjoy Division 3 next year, I hope Armagh get ye and give ye some lessons. Really, really angry at the Wexford approach on Sunday, thank God the ref copped the antics and added the proper time on.

The Cavan performance highlighted some glaring weaknesses. Our only hope at midfield is spoiling the opposition and having attack teams pouncing on the breaks. McCabe and Co. weren't in the aerial battle on Sunday but most depressingly, neither were the half backs. It was notable that the late comeback came when Forde got more active around the sector, and also after the flashpoint with Mulvey which pissed the crowd off and riled our players. The element of panic also gave an urgency to our play that hadn't been there before. Keogan's minor sides and recently, his U21s v Monaghan, have a dreadfully frustrating tendency to dwell on the ball out the field. We were doing this yesterday too, with the first 15 minutes the prime example - having dominated possesson 70/30, we were 0-2 to 0-1 down! It was this that made our two man full-forward line look bad IMO, the ball took an eternity to come in and Wexford had ample time to get the supply lines choked. McCabe delaying over frees and Rory Gallagher and Co. tossing the ball around were the main culprits here. When the ball goes in quickly, Jayo and Pierson give you a chance of winning the ball, but the ball in has to be good.

Chesty and Brennan shouldn't be in the half back line with Gunner. Forde has to be moved back out and a solution found for full-back, somehow. As we all knew it would, Gaynor's isolation is now looking the foolhardy move it is. This game was made for him yesterday, only the late subs and our desperation stakes approach saved our bacon around the middle, but with the needle in the air I'd share reservations about his temperament holding up. Howlin cleaned McCabe out of it and their half back line made a show of us for long stretches in the vital aspects of fastening on to breaks and launching lightning attacks at pace, Cavan were much, much too laborious when they picked up the ball.

Free-taking from the hands is a 50-50 gamble at best for all bar Peter Canavan, I've always said it. Why lesser players persist with it, I'll never know. Putting it on the floor always gives you a better chance and we'd have had half the problems we did on Sunday if we had a reliable free taker from right and left or if the existing ones put it on the floor.

All things considered the season is going along expected lines. We should get promoted and with Johnston, Lyng, Sean Brady and Walsh to come back, if we can do some surgery in the problem areas and work on delivering better and quicker ball inside, we'll at least give a game to Down and maybe win a few qualifiers. So much depends on our ability to break the ball in the middle and pick up the crumbs but these were my ambitions at the turn of the year and I see no reason to scale them upwards or downwards just yet.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 04, 2007, 09:08:27 AM
Any of u heading down to Waterford for the game??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 04, 2007, 09:55:54 AM
Most of us will be at the mercy of Tynan....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 04, 2007, 10:14:51 AM
Was thinking of going but couldn't get sign off from the missus!! My old buddy Tynan will keep me informed hopefully. Wouldn't it be some laugh if Cavan won and Weford beat Meath by 7 points, leaving Meath in Div 3 next year. Stranger things have happened (like Cavan losing to Waterford last yr)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 04, 2007, 10:21:13 AM
Yeah tynan will have to do me aswell i think or else look for a waterford station on the internet but they will prob cover the hurling.  I hope wexford get hammered because of the crap that they were at last weekend.  Also Grimley spent alot of time running onto the pitch last week, under new rules i believe that this isn't allowed anymore and only the runners are allowed on.  Will he get a touch line ban now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 04, 2007, 10:59:09 AM
It'd be a bit of a trek down alright but it'd be almost worth it in one sense. This game with Waterford really should bookend and bring closure to one of the most embarrassing chapters in Cavan football. It's something the players need to get out of their system and move on after reasserting their pride in the jersey. I'm confident we'll go at them bald-headed and after Meath stung them for 4-12 (Meath are scoring a serious amount of goals actually, and Waterford hadn't been conceding big tallies up to then) we can do likewise and score a fair bit.

In one way it'd be great to see a nasty enough Wexford beat out the gate with their tail between their legs, but come on lads...we could never shout for Meath! And besides there's the small matter of top spot in the group to be decided. I didn't realise a 7/8 point victory would do it for Wexford, was thinking they'd need to win by 14 but sure I wasn't at school the day we did the ould scoring differences in maths class...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 04, 2007, 09:05:22 PM
Dungarvan is well worth a weekend visit, the weathers up, the scenery is great, plenty of watering holes, night spots and golf. WLR is the local radio station but I reckon the hurling will take precedence. East Waterford sons of Breffni will be travelling, confidence in the local team would not be high. My one worry is, looking at their team pic from the local rag for the Meath match, they at least have fellas that sport the physical appearance of county players-so size will yet again be a challenge, but when was it ever any other way.


Anyway, on a related topic, maybe I'm the last person to see what follows, if so apologies. Certainly scored a few hits on me, and no doubt will do the same to some of the rest of you.



Choose pain, heartache, depression and ignorance....
choose to place your faith in false gods adorned with tight shorts, pashty skin and blue jerseys....
chose whether or not to wear your county colours for fear of ridicule should you be at the wrong end of another hammering...
choose false hope at the start of each McKenna Cup campaign

Choose Monaghan or Meath as the enemy, Armagh as an annoyance, Donegal
as soccer heads, Tyrone as the tormentors....
choose to wish Peter Canavan was born our side of the border....
choose Breffni as mecca, Omagh as a hay shed, Clones as a hell-hole....
choose to park in the half acre, stand under the score board,
watch the girls go by with fake tan dripping from the night before

Choose whether to travel up to Croker the day before or the morning of the big match...
choose whether or not to take home that meath girl you met in the imperial,
choose a big mighty fry before the match in your sisters place....
choose too many pints before the match.....
choose the Big Tree or Quinns after the match....
choose to go on the piss even though we lost again

Choose to hope that Keogan finally gets it right,
choose to forget McElkennon and his robbin of the county board
choose to dream about what it would have been like
if we had won in 1997, choose to forget about 2006 and waterford,


Choose to be a Garda, Civil Servant, plasterer, carpenter,
plumber, electrician, nurse....
choose a flat in Drumcondra, Phibsboro, Rathmines....
choose to buy a house in Ballyhaise, Virginia or Mullahoran
choose the Farnham, Imperial, Springs, Manor or Horseshoes for nights out.....

Choose to leave your place of birth at the tender age of 17....
choose to go to college in Galway, Sligo, DIT, UCD or get the start with
the big brother in Dublin....
chose only to return home every weekend to mammy, every club match, Ulster Championship fixtures....
choose whether or not to apply for a job in the one local factory
and accept half your current wage in the hope that life will be
better than the rat race in the big smoke

Choose Bud, Guiness, Miller and Carlsberg to drink....
Choose Pauwells, Kingspan, Boxmore to work.....
choose the Radisson, Cabra Castle,
Cavan Crystal, Slieve Russell, Kilmore Hotel to get married....
Choose Bundoran and the west for holidays....
choose the Crystal, The Anglo Celt
the Cavan Echo, Northern Sound Radio

Choose long summer days in the bog, driving a tractor at 12, going to
the local mart as a big day out....
choose your first car a souped up Jap import, on your mothers insurance, don't tax it until you are caught....
choose the site your father leaves you and to build
an unimaginatively designed mansion on it

Choose the two teacher school for primary education, the big
school in town for secondary....
choose to go down town for lunch, play pool in the
pub, hope the convent girls notice you....
Choose getting a pint in the local at 15,
choose seeing your father in the local disco,
choose thinking you scored because you kissed a girl....
choose to stand outside the church at Sunday mass,
choose to always be a mammys boy

Choose Cavan!
 
 

 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 08, 2007, 08:59:33 PM
Line up-Reilly, Hannon, Forde, Fannin, Brennan, Reilly, Crowe, McCabe, Gunner, Sean Brady, Lyng, McKeever, Gallagher, Cullivan, Jason. So the slight surprises, no Cahill or Pierson. Subs used for any length were Larry and Cunningham (Latter did not have a great time). Pierson, Dermot Sheridan and Galligan came on towards the end.

Like the Antrim and Tipp games, romped ahead, did not finish them off, took a Cullivan goal in the end to seal it. Amazing, we went eighht points up after sixty minutes to a very moderate team with nothing to play for and ended up having to rely on a late goal by the outstanding Ray Cullivan to breathe easy.

Top of Div 2 is huge progress from last years shambles. First time I've seen us play this year and most of my comments echo previous postings here.

Hannon, our best man marking defender-scored our first goal as well. Forde is tormented in at full back, moved out late on and made a huge difference. Fannin was taken out the pitch early on and was probably our most effective player over the 70 minutes.

Our half back line was  non existent by times. Forget about Eamon Reilly, Brennan and, possibly Crowe, We will need to see Gunner, in my view McKeever and (Possibly) Flanagan, there, come the Down Game.

Midfield-wiped out by a moderate Waterford team-McCabe not at the races and not Gunners position.

Half forward line-all ok, great to see Lyng back, full forward line-Cullivan was class.

So in summary, a bit to be happy about but we need sorting out all the way from midfield back.

Most positive thing was Lyng playing nearly 70 minutes, he was subbed towards the end and HUGE respect for John Kiely, the Waterford manager, who came over and made a point of shaking his hand. Some appreciation of what he has been through. Not sure we can expect him to save our bacon this year though, perhaps next year will see the best of the lad again. Job done for the moment.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 09, 2007, 12:27:26 AM
We've been second best in midfield in practically every game in the league and its very worrying at this stage. We've never been that dominant at midfield but the problem is compounded this year by the half back line, Forde would be much better than Reilly at CHB but the chances are that as poor as he is at FB he will be staying there as Rabbitt looks increasingly likely to be gone unless we get a run in the championship or qualifiers. Although much more effective in the half forward line McKeever may need to be put back in the HB's with Lyng going in at CHF. Great to see Lyng getting nearly 70 mins and at least one more match, a nice touch there by the Waterford manager too. Wexford must be sick, no sympathy for them after last weeks shenanigans...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 09, 2007, 11:28:59 AM
Was listening to Northern Sound, sounded like a typical Cavan performnce in that we were unable to kill of a game. I had hopes for chesty but I don't think he is good enough to play CB. I couple of gamesnow we have seen teams pissing through us from midfield breaks. I'll say it again, Keoghan needs to get his head out of his hole and get Gaynor back in. Cullivan has been the one through positive from the campaign, he is a class act and needs to be looked after. Anglo Celt - would he make a good FF? I suppose it may seem a bit harsh to complain since most of us did set a goal at the start of the year of promotion, which we have achieved with an unbeaten run. I am just concerned that we have not dominated any team. I fancy Offaly to get the 2nd place in the other group. (didn't we lose to them a good few years back in the Div 2 semis in mullingar before??). Finally we get to the new croke park!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 09, 2007, 11:41:23 AM
Dermot McCabe has been around for a long time and has been ridden by injuries. Now maybe yesterday was a one off but a lot of our defensive problems stemmed from the fact that he was totally unable to get back and cover off Waterford breaks. He was trying his damndest but the legs simply would not respond. It's hard enough to defend in a half back line at the best of times, but when you have a midfielder charging through on you un-opposed it gets a lot harder. Can't be too harsh on McCabe since there aren't a half dozen candidates for midfield. Expect we will see midfield as a version of downtown Calcutta come championship time.

Myles, have to confess was my first time to see Cullivan. He looked class but I was against the Deise, having said that he was up against a reasonable player in Eamon Walsh (played Sigerson with Maynooth so not a total waste), won plenty of ball, distributed well, took a few good scores. Pity we are not in a position to shelter him for a year or two.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 09, 2007, 12:08:36 PM
Myles, not sure if we are definitely playing in Croke Park, if Roscommon win or draw next weekend then I think we will, but chances are Offaly will beat them at home and there could be a play-off because of the awarding of points to Longford following the Offaly game and that would rule out the semis being played that weekend and Croke Park is being used the following weekend, it would be just typical for us not to get there. Was at that game against offaly in Mullingar, we were 7 or 8 points up at half-time and only a typical McManus goal kept them in it but we were destroyed by Claffey in the second half and Offaly ran out easy winners. Would prefer to be playing Roscommon, we scord 5-12 against them the last time we played them in a semi all without McCabe!Tyrone put manners on us in the final though and that was the end of another bright new dawn and Kerrigan. Not sure if its just Keoghan who is against Gaynor coming back in, unless injuries force their hand no invite will be extended this year. Hard to know how to read things just now, the spirit , belief, committment and work ethic bears no relation to last year but the nagging doubt remains that we could be taken to the cleaners by more clinical teams, management still don't know what their best team is and the playing style is not that obvious. My heart though hopes that we can start putting it all together and that qualifying for Div 2 as table toppers and getting into the play-offs will allow the team to express themselves a bit more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 09, 2007, 12:53:26 PM
Anglocelt

I aswell as the other lads listened to the game on Northern Sound,Suprised about what you said about Eamon Reily and Brennan,the commentators made it sound like they had good games.
They talked about how Waterford switched a 6'4 target man in on Forde,and Forde was lost,
How did Jonathan Crowe play?
id say this is probably the 5th game out of 7 we have lost the midfield battle comfortabely,just not good enough.
It really heartening to see Lyng playing so well,If ever one guy deserves to suceed on the football pitch its him.
Would Disagree with TrimBlue about moving McKeever back to the Half back line,McKeever has been outstanding in every game this year in the forwards.
How did Gallagher get on? do much from general play?
Cullivan is genuine class,I think he would be better at wing forward though were he can impact the game more and give Miller an outlet from kickouts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 09, 2007, 07:40:04 PM
Agree that McKeever has been outstanding at CHF and I would only reluctantly move him back to half back line but I think there is a greater need for him there. In my opinion he played his best football for Cavan from half back in 2004 and got some great scores roaming forward from there. Flanagan is a fine footballer but he is hardly rugged enough for the half back's and I can't see him hoovering up breaking ball the way McKeever would. If Lyng continues to sharpen up then he could slot in at CHF instead of McKeever.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 09, 2007, 08:02:42 PM
Paul Brady, Anthony gaynor and Anthony Forde is a damn good half back line. To make it happen of course we need Gaynor back and then Rabbitte fit to free up Forde. That way mcKeever can stay in the forwards. Paul Brady started in midfield against waterford and popped up with 2 points, although I didn't hear Tynan say anything about him winning any primary ball in there. Anglo Celt - what did you make of him in the middle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 10, 2007, 11:32:21 AM
Mission accomplished lads. Promotion from Division 2B and avoidance of the Tommy Morphine nightmare was absolute priority number one at turn of the year and bottom line is we have to be content with that. We have taken a monkey off our backs and purged the memory of last year, we can now gain more experience against better sides next year, and when all's said and done we are one of only three unbeaten sides in the whole football league along with Donegal and the Mushroom pickers which has to say something I suppose.

That said, the concerns about fullback slot and the half back line, which have been voiced here all year, will come back to haunt us later in the summer without a doubt. Maybe even in a fortnight. If teams like Waterford, Antrim etc. are giving us trouble at midfield and for breaking ball then in short we are fucked when we play better sides. Any success we might attain is dependent on turning midfield into a war like we did on that run to round 4 of the qualifiers, winning enough breaks to supply the strongest area of the team which is the forwards. With every game, the refusal to bring Gaynor back looks like absolute suicide and when the real spotlight is on the team in the summer and the fans come out in force to examine, Keogan will face the tough questions that achieving promotion has deferred up to now.

We have another day out anyway let's see how it goes although I'll approach with some trepidation. The better quality teams waiting in the wings have to be pinpointing our weaknesses by now and I feel we could be about to get a spanking some time soon... 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 10, 2007, 11:49:10 AM
Hopefully there won't be any play offs in Divison 2A because if there is we will miss out on croke park :(:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 02:57:26 PM
Lads, dry up on the Gaynor thing. He's not in and he won't be - there is absolutely ZERO chance of him being brought into the panel this year, so I don't understand all of this talk about him.

Why not talk about Trevor Crowe - here's another lad we could do with on the team, and, albeit for different reasons, we all know he won't be back this year.

Talking about it is futile.

Anyway, here's some news from a good source - we may get used to Forde at full back because Rabbitt won't be back for a long time.







Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 10, 2007, 03:04:23 PM
We all talk about Gaynor so much because his presence is hugely missed. Unlike Crowe, his exclusion is entirely deliberate by management and can easily be reversed, whereas Crowe is out by his own volition only and wouldn't come back for all the tea in China, so there's less point talking about him.

Gaynor is mad to play and Keogan will feel the heat from this stubborn decision - and notably, an entirely unexplained one, I might add - to freeze him out. He's making a rod for his own back that promotion has postponed only.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 03:57:22 PM
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Gaynor is mad to play and Keogan will feel the heat from this stubborn decision - and notably, an entirely unexplained one, I might add - to freeze him out.

Unexplained to who, supporters, other players or who? Who does he have to explain anything to when his team are one of only 2 in the entire country unbeaten after seven league matches?

I'd love to see him back, absolutely love to have Ganor at his best bursting out of defence, but I think we need to get behind the team and management this year.

PS I was up in Terry Coyle last Friday and Levi Murphy gave him a bit of a run a round in the last ten minutes, we should call him up too!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on April 10, 2007, 04:39:03 PM
Well the main goal of the season has been achieved, albeit with some unconvincing performances.

Also this is the first time in my 30 odd years following Cavan that we have gone through the group league matches undefeated.
McHugh in his first season (promotion from Div 3) lost to Roscommon & Gabriel Kelly (promotion to Div 1 '89) lost to Cork were the closest we came to remaining unbeaten.

Lets hope Div 2A is sorted this weekend otherwise we could be playing (if we win SF) each week till the Down match.(May 14th)

On the Gaynor issue, 10 years ago another CB was axed from the panel.  If the season ends up the same way I'd be happy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 10, 2007, 04:44:18 PM
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Gaynor is mad to play and Keogan will feel the heat from this stubborn decision - and notably, an entirely unexplained one, I might add - to freeze him out.

Unexplained to who, supporters, other players or who? Who does he have to explain anything to when his team are one of only 2 in the entire country unbeaten after seven league matches?

I think we're one of three but that's by the by anyway...You're right he doesn't have to explain anything but only because it's been a winning team so far, after a fashion. My point is that this will not last and if we get a hiding somewhere, then the questions will start in earnest about Gaynor and so on. The issue hasn't gone away.

Personally, I feel if we pay our money to games and support the team etc. we're entitled to know why one of the best players of recent years isn't on it. If the reasons were above board and strictly football, I think those same reasons would be in the public domain already and the fact that they're not leaves it looking more fishy, personalised and not taken with the overall good of the team at heart. Make no mistake, the Gaynor issue will bite Keogan on the ass sometime soon.

Good point about Tobar, can't see it happening though!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 05:07:35 PM
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I think we're one of three but that's by the by anyway..

I know you're wrong but that's by the by too.

Great point about Aidan Connolly. A class player, and supposed to be our centre back "rock" back then. Soon as McHugh cut him out, we won an Ulster title.

Your attitude of "it will bite Keogan in the ass" is ridiculous. The attitude of every Cavan supporter should be "Fuckin hell, this is amazing, we're unbeaten from seven league matches, how long can we keep it going" not "We need Gaynor, boo hoo, how long before we're beaten"...

In case you're still wondering, only ourselves and Donegal are unbeaten after seven. Monaghan are unbeaten, but they still have one match to play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 10, 2007, 05:22:10 PM
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I think we're one of three but that's by the by anyway..

 The attitude of every Cavan supporter should be "Fuckin hell, this is amazing, we're unbeaten from seven league matches, how long can we keep it going" not "We need Gaynor, boo hoo, how long before we're beaten"...


I think the problem is that we have only played poor teams and having being conviencing in beating them.. Yes were unbeaten but who have we beat that will cause problems for anyone in the championship Wicklow, Waterford, Sligo, Tipperary and Antrim and drew with a poor meath team and should have been beating by wexford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 10, 2007, 05:34:34 PM
Ah right, you have me on a technicality there but you know what I mean ;)

Cavan4ever has answered your other point already. Fair play to the lads for their upsurge in spirit and togetherness etc. but If you want to live in the moment somewhat deluded about our true worth like a displaced Dubs fan seduced by hype or something, carry on by all means, but anyone watching the team in the last few months can see what's coming down the line unless something the trend is radically bucked and there's no reason to suspect it will. I don't know about you, but I tend to find thinking about our team's mid and long term prospects as half the craic of following them in the first place like...

None of us know how things will turn out but my qualified optimism at the turn of the year was based on keeping better elements of the team together. Not discarding them without giving them a chance. We've had ample time to see if playing without Gaynor was a wise move, we now that patently it was not and that's from playing the weaker teams in the country, whatever will happen later on I shudder to think. If or when results turn bad, Keogan will be asked the difficult questions about Gaynor and in fact, it's ridiculous that he hasn't been called to task on it before now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 05:42:46 PM
You can only beat what's put in front of you.

I'm very confident we'll make the league final now, I think we're going to destroy a team soon.

That same poor Meath team beat us in the final league match two years ago, and we're blessed to come away with a draw this year in Navan against a Cavan team with 3 league debutants, one of whom was sent off for nothing after 10 minutes.

Wexford who "should have beaten us" (do you mean because we missed three handy frees or because we had a midfielder sent off for nothing?) were in the Division One league final two years ago.

Give the lads some credit, they're getting results and the performances will improve. There's no point hammering teams in March and April.

Plus, they're still trying out their best team and positions eg Gunner midfield, Cullivan full forward etc so to be getting results is very encouraging.

On the Gaynor thing (yawn), he made his bed by going to Oz when the team we're in the hard slog, would that be Keogan's reasoning? Or is it the huge question mark over his big match temperament? Or is it something personal? We don't know...

The players would know Gaynor's qualities, and flaws, better than us I would think. Do you honestly think that if they wanted him back,he'd still be in exile?

I mean the likes of McCabe, Gunner, Forde, Miller, McKeever etc have been around long enough to know if they need him - if they wanted him, he'd be there in my opinion.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 10, 2007, 06:00:17 PM
Yep a certain degree of credit is due and it is encouraging, and last year we'd have lost half the games we won this term but it's all qualifed by who we beat and the manner in which we did so. And all the while there's a massive glaring problem area that's plain to see and Keogan has really cut off his nose despite his face IMO. I don't know how much training Gaynor missed while on tour but if had been brought back in and worked hard to make up the shortfall, I wouldn't have had a problem and if it benefitted the team overall, neither should Keogan..I just can't see why you'd deliberately choose to be without a key player, that's all, and if we don't pay dearly for it later I'll be hugely (but pleasantly) surprised. It doesn't look like a football decision, put it that way.

Wexford should have beaten us because their half backs and midfield were all over our powder puff half back line until they chose to protect their lead and get cynical. Their mistake, other teams won't be as reticent to press home a clear advantage like that. Poorer teams than them gave us lots of headaches as well especially Antrim around midfield, so while there's reason to be encouraged there's equally as pressing reasons to be concerned. I'd be less so if we had Gaynor because the problems stem directly from the area he'd slot into.

And thankfully the days of the players calling the shots on team matters are long gone and good riddance, and well done Keogan for that at least.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 10, 2007, 06:01:38 PM
Ballyhaise man was asking me about my views on the half back line given that the blokes on Northern Sound reckoned some of them did ok. Perhaps I was being a bit harsh on some of them, however there were times when Waterford were absolutely skating through our backline, particularly down Crowe's side. Somebody posted after the Antrim game that the half back line needed to be cleared out, looked a bit like that at times on Sunday as well. On the topic of Northern Sound, did they reckon anybody did not play up to scratch? Listen in on the internet by times and comes across as a radio version of the Celt-see no evil, hear no evil, do no evil.

The all against one argument about Gaynor goes on, The Brick actually has a point, the man's discipline record etc. has the potential to be an issue, and I for one would love to see him there as an option. I would  not rule out changes at even this late stage, if you remember back to our last stint in Division 1 Mickey Lyng was sprung on the last day of the league campaign, did Gaynor make his start that day as well or did he come in even later in the season in advance of his barn stormer against Down?

Anyway, job done for the moment, all else a bonus, hoping for lots of them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 06:08:57 PM
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did Gaynor make his start that day as well or did he come in even later in the season in advance of his barn stormer against Down?

I think his first match was actually the Down game

Who could emerge though?

I think Lyng's return will give us a massive dimension, his workrate alone...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 10, 2007, 06:25:12 PM
Im off the opinion its too late to be bringing players into the panel now,if they havent been training with the county for the last month.
it cant do much for the squad morale if they see players being brought in ahead of them who havent done the hard graft under Grimley over the last 6 months.

id say Crowe,Eamon Reily and Brennan will get one last chance to stake a claim for places in the half back line for a championsip place in the league Semi Final.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 08:04:54 PM
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Im off the opinion its too late to be bringing players into the panel now,if they havent been training with the county for the last month.

What??!!! Are you insane Ballyhaise Man?

Don't you know that Anthony Gaynor should be on the Cavan team!!!

In fact, we'd nearly be better off playing with 13 a side and just Gaynor in the half back line rather than not having him on the panel. :D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 10, 2007, 08:46:53 PM
What??!!! Are you insane Ballyhaise Man?

Don't you know that Anthony Gaynor should be on the Cavan team!!!

In fact, we'd nearly be better off playing with 13 a side and just Gaynor in the half back line rather than not having him on the panel.



Clearly a case of too much time on the hands. Can we declare a Gaynor free zone for a week or two?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 08:53:40 PM
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Can we declare a Gaynor free zone for a week or two?

Yes!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The TopKat on April 11, 2007, 12:22:28 AM
Bottom Brick-Levi should definitely get a call up after his performance on Gaynor! Keogan must have it in for him too seen as he hasnt been called into the panel! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 11, 2007, 09:47:43 AM
I wonder has Keoghan been at any club games ?, anyone seen him about?

It would be hard for some of his selectors to get to games when there at there own club games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 11, 2007, 10:42:09 AM
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I think we're one of three but that's by the by anyway..
Great point about Aidan Connolly. A class player, and supposed to be our centre back "rock" back then. Soon as McHugh cut him out, we won an Ulster title.
Cant remember the draw cavan had to get through to get to the ulster final, but although great to win it, hardly a brilliant victory (dubious circumstances against a team noted for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory)

the issue/problem/disaster was only shown up in Croke park where Cavan were cruelly exposed for NOT having a CHB and poor Bernard morris tried to play the kingdom on his own
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 11, 2007, 11:02:05 AM
On the Gaynor thing (yawn), he made his bed by going to Oz when the team we're in the hard slog, would that be Keogan's reasoning?

This doesn't hold, at least one other current player (who played most of the league games),had opted out and didn't join the panel until after the McKenna Cup. 



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 11, 2007, 11:06:14 AM
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Im off the opinion its too late to be bringing players into the panel now,if they havent been training with the county for the last month.

What??!!! Are you insane Ballyhaise Man?

Don't you know that Anthony Gaynor should be on the Cavan team!!!

In fact, we'd nearly be better off playing with 13 a side and just Gaynor in the half back line rather than not having him on the panel. :D



That'd be just silly Brick. We've trouble enough with 15.

On the subject of bringing players in late to the panel, it never did Pete McGrath and Down any harm when they were winning All-Irelands and he-whose-name-you-won't-hear-mentioned was himself a late call-up to the senior squad under Coleman, and an inspired one at that if you recall the replay performance against Down. You can find any number of excuses not to include a player if that's your ultimate aim, but the best and only valid reason to call one back in is the difference they could make to a genuine problem area on the team.
Anyway, people are growing tired of the argument so I'll park it there but it will be rear its ahead again all too soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 11, 2007, 11:09:55 AM
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the issue/problem/disaster was only shown up in Croke park where Cavan were cruelly exposed for NOT having a CHB and poor Bernard morris tried to play the kingdom on his own

Rubbish. Morris was Ulster Writers Footballer of the Year that season, and he lined out at centre back all summer. So he was voted the top centre back in the province - how can you then say we had no CHB?

In 97 Cavan struggled past Fermanagh, blitzed a strong Donegal team (who lost to a last minute goal in the following years Ulster final) and then beat a Derry team with the likes of Downey, Tohill, Brolly, McKeever et al still flying.

Nothing wrong with that run I wouldnt think
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 11, 2007, 11:11:20 AM
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This doesn't hold, at least one other current player (who played most of the league games),had opted out and didn't join the panel until after the McKenna Cup. 

I agree - I didn't say this was a valid reason, I asked was this Keogan's reasoning?

Presume you're talking about Miller?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 11, 2007, 11:16:46 AM
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the issue/problem/disaster was only shown up in Croke park where Cavan were cruelly exposed for NOT having a CHB and poor Bernard morris tried to play the kingdom on his own

Rubbish. Morris was Ulster Writers Footballer of the Year that season, and he lined out at centre back all summer. So he was voted the top centre back in the province - how can you then say we had no CHB?

In 97 Cavan struggled past Fermanagh, blitzed a strong Donegal team (who lost to a last minute goal in the following years Ulster final) and then beat a Derry team with the likes of Downey, Tohill, Brolly, McKeever et al still flying.

Nothing wrong with that run I wouldnt think

wouldnt be in agreement with the run up to the ulster final given the state (drink) of Donegal football at that stage
as for Derry, youd have to be watching them for as long as I have to feel the pain. Though Cavan followers have suffered for years also.

BUT the main point here is - I presume you saw the game v Kerry.
Did you not see that Cavan were  raped , pillaged and slaughtered in the CHB area.
For all the awards garnered in the ulster championship run (again I would say against weak enough opposition) the position was only found wanting in this game and cruelly exposed.
I felt EXTREMELY sorry for Morris that day.
The game was a bit emabarrassing.
I was brought up to believe that If you dont have a decent CHB, your team will be weakened straight away.
The old school of thinking is that this is the key position in Gaelic football.
I might not be correct in what I am saying above - but thats my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 11, 2007, 01:18:47 PM
Very odd bit of posting there Lynchboy, when you win a provincial title you are the best in the province at that point in time and are worthy champions. Cavan were beaten that day in Croker by overdoing  the short-passing in the second half and by Kerry moving Fitzgerald to midfield where he proceeded to pump high balls into the FF line, the killer score coming when Mike Frank got on the end of one and scored that goal. The game was far from embarassing and featured one of the best goals ever scored in Croker by Cahill. Its funny but when I think of embarassing things from '97 I can't get past Mullins matchday getup, I mean that hat and those shorts! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 11, 2007, 01:22:14 PM
I think of embarassing things from '97 I can't get past Mullins matchday getup, I mean that hat and those shorts! ;D
you should see the cut of him now!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 11, 2007, 01:58:46 PM
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For all the awards garnered in the ulster championship run (again I would say against weak enough opposition) the position was only found wanting in this game and cruelly exposed.

Very harsh

Cavan beat Fermanagh, then hammered a Donegal team who the following season were pipped by a last minute goal in the Ulster final.

They then took on a Derry team boasting the likes of Tohill, Brolly, Downey, McKeever, Coleman who had earlier defeated Tyrone (who had won the previous two Ulsters) and who would go on to win the following year's Ulster title!

So in the semi and final Cavan beat the two teams who would be in the final the following year - hardly "weak enough opposition".
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 11, 2007, 04:32:20 PM
so the debate about bringing players into the panel at a late stage (i.e. Ga@#%r) goes on. Maniac makes the point that Down were not above bringling lads into panels at late stages, to good effect. But sure why go that far back, or indeed why go that far geographically now that I think of it.  Think in fact of the fateful preliminary round against Down last year-McKeever suddenly rehabilitated from an extended bout of socialising, Peter Reilly lining out despite his best efforts to retire a few months previously, Larry and Jason looking like two versions of the Tellytubbies at the time. Have I totally lost it or did a half fit Pierson get stretchered onto the starting line up as well. I remember looking on in serious embarassment and thinking the Sean Brady was the one forward who actually looked fit enough to be playing championship football. Anyway that was in part down to an injury crisis and cetain players having too much influence over selection matters (that's what I reckon for what it's worth). Luckily for us McKeever has been forgiven his transgressions. We are now in a much better place but still with serious problems at two key positions, nobody should indulge in a huge bout of whinging if the panel was now to be added to to cover this serious defects.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 11, 2007, 05:36:40 PM
Jasus ac39, you got me thinking now about late paratroopers arriving on the scene.

Anyone remember Paul Murphy the Cork lad who Val Andrews/Liam Austin?can't recall actually, drafted in right before a championship game, I think with Derry? He did this two years in a row. The first year he actually caught a decent bit of ball but second year did feck all and promptly disappeared never to be heard of again. He was working at the Slieve Russell or something in the gym. Bizarre chapter in Cavan football.

We were also linked with moves for former Kerry players as well, Jack Ferriter or some bleddy thing...

Ho hum.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 11, 2007, 10:33:28 PM
Maniac I remember when Pat Fallon of Mayo played for us (early '90's?) and he was absolute shite, I think we dragged him down to our level...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 11, 2007, 11:17:04 PM
Never knew that. Knew he worked up our way for a spell, was it as a bank official or something? Pat Holmes did the same and lined out for the Gaels but kept his county allegiances at home.

I presume he got a run with us as a raw enough recruit before coming to prominence later...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The TopKat on April 12, 2007, 12:22:48 AM
Bottom Brick, what do you have against the Celt???  ??? ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 12, 2007, 08:23:49 AM
Bottom Brick, what do you have against the Celt???  ??? ???

The standard of writing in the celt has really dropped.  They even have a big report in this week from the cavan/wexford game which im sure was in it last week.  The amount of mistakes that does be in it is unreal.  The 2 free papers are alot better for G.A.A.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on April 12, 2007, 08:50:02 AM
In the sports section of last weeks celt they actually repeated the same page twice!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 12, 2007, 08:52:34 AM
In the sports section of last weeks celt they actually repeated the same page twice!!!

Thats right it was pictures of some functions.  they must have monkeys working in there .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 12, 2007, 10:12:12 AM
Yeh Fallon worked in the Bank and was only a young lad at the time, still when you saw him in '96 & '97 you wouldn't think he was the same player, I suppose it shows you need to give players a chance to develop and not just give them a go for a couple of games
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 12, 2007, 10:58:03 AM
The Celt has being no great shakes for years , but sure we got by.Since the Scottish Dunferline Press group took it over in 2004 it has rapidly gone downhill.The amount of times pictures or articles are being duplicated in each edition is unreal, and now it seems they're even duplicating articles from previous issues.Also I feel as if the Celt has being pulling the wool over our eyes for years.Why sell a local paper for €1.85??(I think thats the price now as they keep changing it so often),and then bring out a free paper with local news, surely it could all be put in the one paper (maybe this is the reason for the duplications).

BTW fair play to Peter Quinn and his buddies for giving us the makings of a very good paper in the Cavan Echo, keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 12, 2007, 11:07:55 AM
If the response from the Celt to the Echo has been to lower standards rather than raise them, then I genuinely fear for its future. If there's no concept of the threat they're facing they'll be in trouble fairly soon. Too content to trade on their monopoly in the market for far too long, it seems they lack the initiative to turn it around now.
Although you'd have to think they'd shake themselves and do something before too long.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 12, 2007, 04:12:29 PM
First time caller, long time listener!

Interesting topic here, what would people actually want to read in the likes of the Celt?

Local match reports are high on the agenda for me, as well as opinion and most importantly, everything must be well written!!

What does everyone else think?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 12, 2007, 04:26:20 PM
So, Cavan only won by six points according to this week's Celt, and are now promoted to Division 2A, which actually won't exist.

Ho hum as right  ;D

I was trying to read the report from the wexford game in the celt last week. The 2nd half of the report was in the paper on two pages (each page being exactly the same as the other). The 1st half of the report I couldn't find anywhere in the paper. Then I was reading Owen mcConnon who was saying that Meath were as good a promoted as Wexford would have to beat them by more than 15 points. With the celt it will take no more than 2 minutes to find glaring mistakes and I can only assume that the editor doesn't bother proof read!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 12, 2007, 05:15:21 PM
At this stage the Celt is getting by on the fact that it is an institution and people just buy it out of habit. The mistakes in the sports section alone are disgraceful and speak volumes for the shoddy, lazy journalism it peddles. The type of mistakes mentioned today are as a result of at least 2 people not doing their job, the sportswriter and the sports editor. I hope the Echo gives them a good kick up the arse and they start thinking creatively about what they are doing, I mean why cant they do profile pieces on the county team, proper interviews with players, management, maybe an archive piece with pictures of previous championship matches, great players from the past, they have it all at their fingertips, a piece on the Down/Cavan rivalry in the '60s would make for graet reading coming up to the game in May.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: KIDDO on April 12, 2007, 10:56:07 PM
Cavan Gaels defeated Belcoo 5.13, to 0.7 ,in round 1 0f the 2007  Paul Mcgirr  memorial trophey  competition  for 2006 ui6 county juvinile champions , at Gardrum ParkDromore , tonight April 12, with the game refereed by top whistler MartinSludden , who is also the referee for next Sats ULSTER U21final inOmagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 15, 2007, 11:41:47 AM
Results from the weekend so far

Division One
Drumalee 1-11 Lacken 0-11
Belturbet 0-10 Gowna 2-11
Cuchullains 1-09 Cavan Gaels 2-10
Denn 1-13 Crosserlough 2-14
Mullahoran 0-07 Castlerahan 2-09
Ballyhaise 0-11 Drumlane 1-09    :-[


Division Two
Knockbride 2-09 Shercock 2-09
Drumgoon 2-14 Killygarry 1-06
Ballymachugh 1-06 Ramor Utd 2-11
Redhills 2-10 Killinkere 2-07

Division Three
Killdallan 0-15 Mountnugent 1-05
Arva 1-11 Shannon Gaels 2-11
Corlough 1-05 Killeshandra 0-14

Division Four
Cuchullains 1-10 Cavan Gaels 2-03
Ballyhaise 2-08 Drumlane 1-06   :)
Mullahoran 2-07 Castlerahan 0-02
Denn 2-11 Crosserlough 0-12

Division Five
Redhills 1-05 Killinkere 2-20
Drung 2-14 Laragh 1-11
Drumgoon 0-05 Killygarry 5-09
Knockbride 0-09 Shercock 3-06

Division Six
Arva 1-10  Shannon Gaels 1-08
Corlough 0-10  Killeshandra 4-07
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Verbal Kint on April 15, 2007, 12:49:48 PM
Long time reader, first time poster!
Hopefully results go our way today and we will be in Croker next week-only county in Ireland not to have played in the new Croke Park!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 15, 2007, 08:37:16 PM
Roscommon next up for us in Croker then so...roll on Saturday, it's about time we got a game there at long last. Thank God the nightmare scenario was avoided in Division 2A today.

Hopefully we'll put in a decent enough display, another game before we meet Down would be great.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 15, 2007, 08:53:07 PM
Brilliant, although it's not confirmed yet which is worrying because they could decided not to hold it in Croker owing to the poor crowd today...

I think we'll take Ros too by the way, although they will be on a high after their escape act today.

By the way, read this on hogan stand message board, taken from the Cavan Echo I think...

Not too often you get something decent to read on hogan stand!


13/04/2007

The Bottom Line spoke last week about the attitude problem among Cavan supporters. Evidently, no-one was listening. The talk among the 150 or so diehards who made the trek to Waterford (the other 15,000 or so who will be looking for tickets on May 13 were obviously busy) was downbeat.
Here are the facts. We’re unbeaten in seven while not even playing at 60 per cent of what we know we can. The management are still tinkering with players and positions. We drew with Wexford who subsequently hammered Meath - is there a formline here, or did Paul Bealin’s men become brilliant in the space of seven days?
The harsh reality is that Cavan have been whipping boys for 30 odd years and the frustrating thing is this: when we do get it together, go unbeaten in seven matches and top a group with Meath and the 2005 Division One finalists Wexford in it, all a lot of Cavan supporters can do is complain and say “we’re brutal, we were lucky, we’ll get hammered in the summer”.
How is any team expected to develop with this type of pressure on their backs? Cavan’s record since the sixties has been comparable to that of Fermanagh. We had one great summer when the gods aligned and we made it to the hallowed turf of Croker, when we were so close to togging out on the third Sunday of September that we could almost smell the Deep Heat and hear the air horns. Other than that, we’ve been also-rans, never winning a league title, landing just two provincial Under 21 gongs and no Ulster minor since 1974.
And yet... The Bottom Line has said it before, and he’ll say it again - the “long suffering” Cavan supporters have contributed to the team’s lacklustre performances over the years. Their level of expectancy is so preposterous that it has suffocated the team, and undermined their belief. For example, we’re in the league semi final and we haven’t lost a match. The reaction? Big deal, it’s division 2B. However, had Cavan maybe lost to Meath or Wexford, or not ground it out against Sligo, the response would have been outright disgust.
And then you have the vicious circle which the “demand for success” creates. Young players are thrown into the senior squad too soon in the rush for a quick fix, and when they crumple under the strain (as often happens), they get turfed out to make room for the next prodigy. So the cycle of “hope, defeat, clearout, rebuilding job, hope…” continues ad infinitum.
How can the current regime be any different? Simple – let’s get behind this side, and not with daggers in our hands. We’re back in Croke Park for the first time in a decade, and we’re favourites to reach a national final at senior level!
The Bottom Line has no doubt that a game in Fortress Croker will lift Cavan’s performance. What footballer in Ireland wouldn’t be invigorated by a chance to take the field on the biggest stage of all?
After that, struggling Down come to Breffni where they’ll face a hell of a battle. Momentum counts for a lot in county football, and believe it or not, this Cavan side is on the move. Now is the time, to paraphrase the wizened old colonel in Full Metal Jacket, to jump aboard for the big win. Go on, you know you want to…
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 16, 2007, 10:34:06 AM
Some lad over on hoganstand is saying that the game is in Lonford on Sunday.  Anyone hear anything offical?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 16, 2007, 01:31:34 PM
Some lad over on hoganstand is saying that the game is in Lonford on Sunday.  Anyone hear anything offical?

Seen that alright but I suppose this link disreputes that.

http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18003E858F253A90?artistid=955185&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=229 (http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18003E858F253A90?artistid=955185&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=229)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ryano on April 16, 2007, 01:45:41 PM
Mon and Meath @ 6pm
Cavan and Ros @ 7.45pm
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 16, 2007, 01:48:06 PM
That link says 1 o clock Homer?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 16, 2007, 01:49:18 PM
If u look to the right Brick it gives 6 and 7.45.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2007, 01:57:05 PM
Tickets just been ordered  :)
Looking forward to taking over Croker Saturday Night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 16, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
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If u look to the right Brick it gives 6 and 7.45.

Not so bad!

It shouldn't be hard to get tickets sorted???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 16, 2007, 02:40:32 PM
7.45 Looks like an overnight
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 16, 2007, 02:50:28 PM
I like those odds!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 16, 2007, 03:18:19 PM
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If u look to the right Brick it gives 6 and 7.45.

Not so bad!

It shouldn't be hard to get tickets sorted???


There won't be many problems in getting tickets.  It might be better of staying than driving home cos with meath and monaghan playing the traffic will be serious.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: bingobus on April 16, 2007, 03:28:23 PM
Mon and Meath @ 6pm
Cavan and Ros @ 7.45pm

Are you sure that this? I was told by a member of the Monaghan panel this morning thats its the otehr way about. He could be wrong though, have you a link?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 16, 2007, 03:29:22 PM
Heard it on the radio there about 30 mins ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 16, 2007, 03:42:31 PM
Croke Park will host both NFL semi-finals on Saturday evening with the Monaghan-Meath game starting proceedings while the floodlights will most definitely be needed by the time Cavan and Roscommon throws in at 7.45pm.

The first game throws in at 6pm and is a repeat of the 2005 NFL Division 2 decider which Monaghan won in they dying seconds thanks to an own goal from Meath’s Mark Ward.

There is likely to be huge interest in Cavan as it will be the first time they have played in GAA Headquarters since 1997 when they took on Kerry in an All-Ireland semi-final.

Both games will be shown live on TG4.

 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: bingobus on April 16, 2007, 03:46:15 PM
Cheers, should have known he'd get it arse ways.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on April 16, 2007, 07:33:06 PM
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If u look to the right Brick it gives 6 and 7.45.

Not so bad!

It shouldn't be hard to get tickets sorted???


There won't be many problems in getting tickets.  It might be better of staying than driving home cos with meath and monaghan playing the traffic will be serious.
That's what myself and the folks are doing. I remember 97 and the traffic that day was killer, so you could just imagine the traffic on the M1, N2 and N3. Which ever way you go, you're going to have serious traffic.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2007, 07:42:04 PM
Lads
it may be a while before we get to Croke Park again,so i think for even if only for the novelty factor of seeing us in Croke,Its worth the trip.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on April 16, 2007, 08:14:31 PM
Lads
it may be a while before we get to Croke Park again,so i think for even if only for the novelty factor of seeing us in Croke,Its worth the trip.
Absolutely, but make sure to be there early and stay late or stay over night would be the right way to go about it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 16, 2007, 08:56:46 PM
Well lads. i hope to get there but not 100% sure if I can make it due to other commitments. I think we will be beaten, we are playing too poorly  for me to be too optimistic. Ros have a big lad Mannion at FF, apparently he is playing crap this year but if the ball is remotely good we know that forde won't be able to compete. You can always rely on a Maughan team to be fit too and by all accounts that is how they beat Offaly at the weekend. They have there bad performances too so maybe it will go our way. Would be great to get to a final against meath or monaghan for a bit of serious slagging.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 17, 2007, 03:58:07 PM
Cavan stars Sean Brady, Darren Rabbitte, Nicholas Walsh and Seanie Johnston are battling to be fit for Saturday evening’s NFL Division 2 semi-final against Roscommon at Croke Park.

Rabbitte is suffering from a hamstring complaint, and is the biggest injury concern ahead of the Breffni County’s first appearance at GAA headquarters since 1997. Lorcan Mulvey is ruled out through suspension, but wing back Ronan Flanagan is available again. Micheal Lyng is pushing for a starting place after a two-year injury layoff.

Cavan manager Donal Keogan is playing down the significance of Cavan’s first appearance in the new-look Croke Park. Until now, they were the only county not to have played at the stadium since its redevelopment a few years ago.

“It’s not something we’ll be dwelling on. Obviously the majority of our players haven’t played there but it’s not a big deal to us,” he said.




Myles
if Mannion is FF there is no conceiveable way Forde can be left at full back on him,i f**kin hope not anyway  :o
You could possibely see Nicholas Walsh in there marking him,if fit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 17, 2007, 05:07:48 PM
What exactly is the problem with Johnston anyway, it's all gone dark on his injury I haven't read or seen a thing about it anywhere. He hadn't been playing near as well as last year but we could be doing with him fit for 20 mins or so for when Jason tires. Has he played for the seniors all year?

A big open prairie like Croker would be perfect for little Jelly to run riot in. Looking forward to seeing Lyng on the grand stage too, it's tailor-made for him to direct traffic on the forty and find the corners with some nice passes. [Edit - if it's a slippy surface, would anyone have concerns about risking him?]

Immensely looking forward to the game I have to say. Redevelopment, GAA fondness for Clones and a poor draw in round 4 two years ago has kept us out of Croker but hopefully Saturday will mark the start of more regular visits to the hallowed ground.

If nothing else it'll stop the Meath shite about tractors and student entry for pensioners etc. They're a bit far down the pecking order to be joshing at us dont yiz think?.

Besides, did they never hear that those in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones? Evidently not.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 17, 2007, 05:17:35 PM
Maniac, heard it was a broken bone in his foot so if thats true it would surprise me if he was fit, he was limping heavily when I saw him at the Wexford game but maybe he is one of these quick healers you hear about, think all the young lads will be fearless on Saturday with Cullivan and Lyng ready to put down a marker. Don't know how we will be able to compete in midfield though, McCabe hasn't the legs anymore so getting up and down between the 45's tracking his man will be a big ask. The question is have we the potential to improve by at least 30% on our performances to-date, I think we have but we might have to wait for the Championship for that and mightn't see it on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 17, 2007, 05:33:02 PM
We certainly need to TB. I've been a bit down on our championship prospects since the league ended but at a week or two's remove, I suppose going up unbeaten is not a bad achievement with a new manager and a building/experimenting team carrying a few injuries. Anyway, offer any Cavan fan league promotion and unbeaten status at start of year and we'd have taken it. Anything else from the seniors this year is a bonus, in a way we should just sit back and enjoy whatever we get.

If anything will bring a bit more out of the team it'll be a day out in Croker you'd hope. Something with the effervescence of the display against Derry in the McK Cup would do nicely I think, but we have weak links and I just hope they're not cruelly exposed when we meet a good team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 17, 2007, 05:37:02 PM
I for one am very confident in relation to Saturday Night.
as i said on the other thread, id be worried about Rosscommons size and power,but with Croke being such a big pitch,I think Pierson/Jelly if fit/Jayo etc and Lyng could run riot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 17, 2007, 07:24:45 PM
There is a serious need for us to get every man jack in the county into Croker on Saturday night. I'm a bit worried with talk about all of Cavan being there. There were shag all of us in Clones for our first Championship meeting against the Rials in 50 years on a magnificent day. The great Cavan support has been a bit of a myth since the late 90's when we started getting serious mullerings by Derry, and, subsequently, Tyrone. We have done enough banging on about not getting into Croker, here we are. The players have managed to stem last years disaster and deserve some support.

So folks, in short, harangue your neighbour/sister/aunt/summer soldier to get the hell up there. I think this could really work wonders for players such as Lyng/Pierson to get a run in Croker. We will start to know whether the likes of Crowe/Cunningham are ready for championship action.

There's a bigger dimension to getting a big crowd in come Saturday night. Over the past year many staunch GAA commentary types have been making the point that the stadium is practically closed to GAA players apart from the elite. Now that soccer and rugby got their go, a concession has quite rightly been made and this weekends fixture is for Croker. Let's not now stay at home, watch it on TG4 and have it thrown back to us that we wouldn't use it when it was available. Hell, while I think of it, harangue your Monaghan, Ros friends and family to get there too. Those of you out on day release who are willing to admit to acquaintances with the other crowd, well that's up to you.

Here's to a great night, for those of you travelling from exile land (i.e. south of Dublin) the train in from Maynooth to Drumcondra is the only way.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on April 17, 2007, 11:03:40 PM
I don't know why alot of you lads are worried about Johnston or any of the forwards for that matter. They're all playing well at the moment and hopefully they'll continue to do so. The thing I'm worried about is our midfield and backline. McCabe just can't cope on his own in the midfield, Mulvey and Walsh are huge losses in there because they are both real grafters and that gives McCabe a chance to get the ball and start up attacks. Playing the Gunner in midfield again isn't an option, we certainly need someone in there pronto. Cunningham played well there for Swad last year, maybe he might be a decent punt in there.

As for the back line, we have to get Forde away from the full back position. It's not because he's playing badly or anything, but he's just too small to deal with bigger players and high balls in. Forde is a good player when he has the ball in his posession, not when he's fighting with a goliath of a man for posession. How tall is Hannon? Surely he's taller than Forde...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 18, 2007, 12:30:22 PM
Ironically, the Cavan thread has now reached page number '52.

Will it all go to shite from here on do ye think? ;D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 18, 2007, 01:10:56 PM
Anyone got there tickets yet?

Be careful if ur buying on Ticketmaster because there supposed to have the worst seats!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 18, 2007, 01:46:16 PM
Ordered them off Ticketmaster C4ever,
have to collect them from Box Office later today or maybe tommorow.Good seats according to the seating chart.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 18, 2007, 01:49:14 PM
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Ironically, the Cavan thread has now reached page number '52.

Will it all go to shite from here on do ye think?

LOL hope not :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: realredhandfan on April 18, 2007, 01:49:55 PM
good luck lads and enjoy it.. Youse deserved to be there a lot sooner..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 18, 2007, 01:57:07 PM
Here lads keep it at 52 pages until Saturday,It could be a lucky omen  :o

Thanks for the well wishes RRHF.  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 18, 2007, 03:50:06 PM
Doubt there is much chance of that happening BallyhaiseMan, even if we (the cavan lads) do manage to leave the page alone, theres always gonna be a few posts put in from a few Rossies or others to spoil it.

I'm almost hopping off the walls this week in anticipation, I just hope the night can live up to its expectations. A good game of football, a great atmosphere and of course a win for Cavan would be the ideal preparation for the Down game (Provided that we don't get slaughtered at the hands of the mushroom pickers or the rials that is).

I would worry about the players pushing themselves to be fit for the game on Saturday (Jelly, Rabbitte, Walsh, Sean Brady and Lyng too), I mean I'm sure the lads would do anything to be able to play in Croke Park on Saturday. I'm just anxious that they could do them themselves an injury in effort to regain fitness in time, or otherwise declare themselves fit to play when they are not and run the risk of further damage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Fishead_Sam on April 18, 2007, 04:20:36 PM
I was enojying this thread until it hit 51, now I feel like moaning until at lease page hundred & '07

I think the Rossies stopped posting in the early 40's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 19, 2007, 03:32:57 PM
Cavan team v Roscommon, NFL Division 2B Semi final

Reilly, Cahill, Forde, Hannon, Brady, Reilly, Fannin, McCabe, Brennan, Cullivan,McKeever, Flanagan, Johnston, Gallagher, Reilly

changes

1 Brennan to midfield - happy enough. Saw him for the club against Lacken last friday and he was brilliant, very fit.

2 Flanagan wing forward - the lad is as cool as a cucumber. Glad to see him start.

3 Jelly in - is he fit? He came on and kicked 2 points for the Gaels v Cuchullains, hard to know if he's 100%, if we get a good 50 minutes then spring Pierson I'd be happy

The only thing I'm worried about is Gallagher - Pierson is a much bigger threat in my opinion.

Surprised Lyng is out but I'd be stunned if he doesn't figure at some stage. Some bloody good players available to bring off the bench too, the likes of Larry, Lyng, Pierson, Cunningham, Mackey and at the back Crowe...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 19, 2007, 04:55:17 PM
Interesting team,i must say.

McCabe,Brennan midfield is one i like.
The Tussle between McCabe and Seamus O Neil should be worth the admission alone.

Flanagan ahead of Cunningham is suprising,wouldnt be suprised to see Flanagan drop back in between the Half back and full back line if Big Karl Mannion is full forward with Gallagher moving out to wing forward.

Not confident in Forde at full back, but we've done that to death,so il leave it at that.
Fannin at his more natural position aswell.

As Hollowman said
That is one of the strongest benches Cavan have had in id say 10 years.
Lots of players who can make an impact when brought on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 19, 2007, 09:31:13 PM
Like most, I am a bit bemused by the omission of Pierson. I think our FF line has been medicore so far this year and hasn't sparked into life yet. In fact none of our FF line to date have been taking their men on at all. Saying that Pierson is still the best of them.  Maybe there is something going on behind the scenes or maybe they are trying to throw Ros and Pierson will start in the end. Brennan is really the only other option we have left but I do fear for us in the middle. Walshe would have been a great assest at spoliing ball on O Neill. My other fears are the continued hype about croke park appearances. Personally, I find it a little embarassing that a county with our history is getting so worked up about a trip to croke park for a Div2 semi final. While I'd love to see a big turn out like in the good old days, lets not loose the run of ourselves. The game is what it is a Div 2 Semi. I don't recall Leitrim going mad when they got there either. I remember cringing when Monaghan invaded the pitch when they fluked a win in the final 2 yrs ago - please god let us not go down that road too!! Secondly, I fear that the players will start buying into this hype and start thinking that the job is half done by just being in Croke park. If that attitude is allowed to seep in we will be  getting a good beating on saturday and set back all our momentum and progress.

In any case I am going to make the long trip to Dublin on Sat from Sligo and back again the same night and hopefully we'll up the tempo a bit and get a good performance and result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on April 19, 2007, 11:35:15 PM
I would not knock any Cavan player or fan for looking forward to playing in Croke Park and it is still an achievement for any Non Leinster county to get there and play there as often as they can, but it is very important, having got there, to play well.  Croke Park is the real test for any footballer.  Having seen Cavan play earlier in the league, I think they can win on Saturday.  It will not be easy, but a final against either Meath or Monaghan would be very interesting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 20, 2007, 09:32:57 AM
Myles, I'm glad to hear you're making the trek from the northwest, some of us will be matching you for miles. RTE radio last night reckoned there are about 10k tickets sold in Cavan so far which is good, hope we get 30k in the ground and a bit of athmosphere.

Haise man, do you think we will be able to afford the luxury of Flanagan dropping back in front of Forde? I think first priority will be all shoulders to the wheel out around the middle to stop us getting swamped there (again). Don't know much about the Rossies, but assuming they're a bit ahead of the likes of Antrim and Waterford, you would have to reckon they won't fail to take advantage if they get to dominate midfield.

So it's all down to the middle third, if we could get even 40% of what's going there and get some good ball in, we can win this one.

As for the rest of the season, just in case I was going to lose the run of myself with optimism, I met a Waterford football selector yesterday. His one comment-just about the smallest inter-county team he has come across, some nice footballers mind. Faint praise but sure we all know that, just a bit sobering to be reminded of it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 20, 2007, 10:25:30 AM
Don't think the players will be buying into the hype of playing in Croker, they are there on merit but will know they haven't being playing well so will have nothing to be complacent about. After last year it was a big thing to get promoted this year so having achieved that the players should play with a bit more freedom cos anything they achieve now is a bonus. If we lose and don't perform it will be down to the obvious faultlines in this team which we have discussed on here before. Grimley's experience of big games in Croker should be a help in preparations too. Given the size of the pitch I think we will see Pierson, Lyng, Cunningham and maybe Larry all coming in (depending on injuries). Not unhappy about Brennan in midfield as he is strong and mobile, but Walsh would have been a better option if fit. The relative fitness of both teams will be important with Roscommon probably having the edge here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 20, 2007, 10:31:44 AM
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Personally, I find it a little embarassing that a county with our history is getting so worked up about a trip to croke park for a Div2 semi final.

No offence but I completely disagree.

I think this attitude of "a county with our history" is the embarrassing part here. We've been among the worst 8-10 teams in the country over the last thirty years.

At senior, we have won one Ulster title in 38 years, at minor we've one Ulster in 35 years and at Under 21 we've two Ulster titles in 40 odd years. This is a record comparable to Fermanagh or Antrim, who have actually had more success at underage.

We also haven't won a league title of any description since Moses wore short trousers.

Any trip to Croke Park is not to be sniffed at. Your statement just defies belief in my opinion (again, not an attack here, just something that really annoys me - we have no divine right to compete, the likes of Tyrone have been laughing at us living off stuff we won in the 50's and 60's for years.)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jaykay on April 20, 2007, 10:43:28 AM
Lads, I'm posting this for 2 reasons:

1. To try and get ye off page 52 (hence the spaces)  :P

2. To say I'm looking forward to the game on Saturday evening.  It's a great chance for counties like ourselves to have a night out under the lights.  I wouldn't pass any heed on some of the muppets slaggin' ye for not having played in Croke Park in so long.  I'd rather not be there than be on the receicing end of some of the beatings Mayo got in those last 10 years.  Chances are ye'll be there for 70 mins on Saturday not 35 like some of the Mayo "faithfull" were last September.  

Hopefully we'll have as good a game as the last time we meet in Mullingar, obviously with a different result though.

Anyway, enjoy the game and the craic before and after.

BTW fishead, the Rossies dont post much here because we have our own discussion board.  Ooh, and while I'm at it Balla is about 5 miles east of the border, look at a map ya muppet!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jaykay on April 20, 2007, 10:44:48 AM
Lads, I'm posting this for 2 reasons:

1. To try and get ye off page 52 (hence the spaces)  :P



I guess I'm a slow typer
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 20, 2007, 11:07:41 AM
Thanks Jay Kay, I was actually hoping someone would move us off page '52.

It's been our problem over the last few generations of footballers to still have our mindset stuck in the successes and glories of 1952 and  before. Wanting to stay in page 52 was symbolic of this mnidset, but moving off it now shows how we are striding forward to a bold new future and, er, page 53 and beyond.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it anyway. :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 20, 2007, 11:33:08 AM
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Personally, I find it a little embarassing that a county with our history is getting so worked up about a trip to croke park for a Div2 semi final.

No offence but I completely disagree.

I think this attitude of "a county with our history" is the embarrassing part here. We've been among the worst 8-10 teams in the country over the last thirty years.

At senior, we have won one Ulster title in 38 years, at minor we've one Ulster in 35 years and at Under 21 we've two Ulster titles in 40 odd years. This is a record comparable to Fermanagh or Antrim, who have actually had more success at underage.

We also haven't won a league title of any description since Moses wore short trousers.

Any trip to Croke Park is not to be sniffed at. Your statement just defies belief in my opinion (again, not an attack here, just something that really annoys me - we have no divine right to compete, the likes of Tyrone have been laughing at us living off stuff we won in the 50's and 60's for years.)




I am well aware of the poor record we have in recent times. I am glad that the team have got a chance to play in croke park finally. This chance has come about  out of "generosity" from the Croke park authorities as the expected attendance would probably not be enough to warrant it being played in croker under normal circumstances. We did get to a Div 1 league final not to long ago that would have been played there but for renovations. We are not in the bottom 8-10 teams in the country in my opinion if we are talking about the skill of some of our players. What irks me is that some people think by getting to croke park we have acheived something substantial. Well we haven't and if anyone thinks we have then that is a sad state of affairs. We are in a league D2 semi final. If we lose or win no one will remember in a couple of years. If we get to the final and win then we have something to get a bit excited about. I say we need to set our sights higher and treat this as a stepping stone on our way to greater things in the next few years. I will support and cheer the team on as always but I won't be coming on here declaring our great achievement of making it to croke park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 20, 2007, 12:16:08 PM
In my opinion this whole thing about playing in Croke Park is getting out of hand.Yes it's great for the team to get the chance to play in Croker for the experience alone, but at the end of the day it's a Div 2 semi final, let's not get carried away.As Myles says it a stepping stone and a bonus to be in Croker.
It's not too long ago that we played the Rossies in a Div 1 semi in Mullingar.There was a time when getting to Croker meant you were either in an AI semi or final, or the National League final, in those cases there would be something to shout about.Sure nowadays most Leinster Championship games are played there,games in the Rackard,Ring and Murphy Cups have being played there, as have Ulster Championship games.
The first objective of this management team was promotion which they achieved,it would be good to get two more competitive victories under their belt before the Down game (as one of only 3 undefeated teams in the league ,why not?),but if they don't, it won't be the end of the world.


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yeah i looked up the TG4 Schedule and the games aren't there.Hopefully it will encourage more people to go cos i know quiet a few lazy fcukers who weren't going to go. 

Were you as eager to get them same lazy fcukers into Breffni or Casement or Navan etc.? If the game was anywhere else other than Croker would you be as eager to get them to go?





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 20, 2007, 12:18:17 PM
We could've done without this

From Hogan Stand

Brady admits dual toll
 
Paul Brady
20 April 2007


Cavan dual star Paul Brady has admitted that his days playing both handball and football at the highest level may be coming to an end.

Brady will compete in the All-Ireland 40x20 senior doubles final in Limerick at 12 noon (tomorrow) before heading to Croke Park to play for Cavan against Roscommon in the NFL Division Two semi-final at Croke Park (7.45pm).

"It’s a bit of a disaster but, sure, it has to be done," said the Mullahoran clubman.

"I just don’t think about it too much because if you did, you’d fry your brain.

"To me it is normal to play either handball or football every Friday, Saturday and Sunday, but it has been a bit hectic.

"At 27, the body’s beginning to feel it more and more, so I probably won’t be able to do it for much longer."

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 20, 2007, 12:28:10 PM
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We are not in the bottom 8-10 teams in the country in my opinion if we are talking about the skill of some of our players

I agree with Hollow, in terms of results over the 60's/70's/80's/90's we ARE in the bottom 10 for definite.

Brady's playing in the senior doubles all ireland final in Cappagh, Co Limerick on saturday morning at 12. He should make it back up in about 21/2 or 3 hours.

He'll be OK though, they are playing Mayo and should win it easily enough
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 20, 2007, 01:02:00 PM
Brady made it known earlier in the year that this was his last year for now to be playing with Cavan cos of his handball committments, he's probably only playing this year cos Keoghan's his cousin. Will be a big loss to us..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 20, 2007, 01:51:00 PM
Gunner is a ridiculously gifted athlete to be able to play both at such a high level on the same day.
what a miss he will be be from next year on.
The Trip to Croke Park is hopefully the first of many to the Jones Road venue over the next few years  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Fishead_Sam on April 20, 2007, 02:52:39 PM
2. To say I'm looking forward to the game on Saturday evening.  It's a great chance for counties like ourselves to have a night out under the lights.  I wouldn't pass any heed on some of the muppets slaggin' ye for not having played in Croke Park in so long.  I'd rather not be there than be on the receicing end of some of the beatings Mayo got in those last 10 years.  Chances are ye'll be there for 70 mins on Saturday not 35 like some of the Mayo "faithfull" were last September. 

Hopefully we'll have as good a game as the last time we meet in Mullingar, obviously with a different result though.

Anyway, enjoy the game and the craic before and after.

BTW fishead, the Rossies dont post much here because we have our own discussion board.  Ooh, and while I'm at it Balla is about 5 miles east of the border, look at a map ya muppet!

A Jakay whats with the abuse, for one I think you misinterpreted my posting, my reference to the pages in the 40s was a reference to Ros not winning since then much as Mayo & Cavan not winning since the 50s, not meant as an insult just fact.

Ballaghadeeren, its Mayo for football always was always will be, and 5 miles East of the border I always acknowleged that.

You need to take a chill pill, have friends from Cavan & Ros and was delighted both teams in Semis and getting to play in Croker.

No offence towards Roscommon was intended, you just might be a little slower to jump down peoples necks in future
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 20, 2007, 04:13:46 PM


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yeah i looked up the TG4 Schedule and the games aren't there.Hopefully it will encourage more people to go cos i know quiet a few lazy fcukers who weren't going to go. 

Were you as eager to get them same lazy fcukers into Breffni or Casement or Navan etc.? If the game was anywhere else other than Croker would you be as eager to get them to go?


Yes   always did and always will
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 20, 2007, 04:23:15 PM
I wouldn't overstate or understate the 'hype' about us getting to Croker. I don't see it being any problem tbh.

Keogan has been suitably low key about it, not a word from any of the players, no tear-jerker interviews with Jayo, Larry and Dermot about where it went wrong since 1997 and so on. Very understandably, there'll be alot of school trips and kids groups and family days out organised for Saturday evening and if these kids get hyped up about it, so much the better for the future of the game in the county because these are the future players we need to get interested and keep interested.

That aside, most observers of the game and adults know our team's limitations, know it's just a division two semi-final when all's said and done and while everyone is still somewhat relieved to have got to Croker as a monkey to get off our backs, beyond that I don't think there's anybody getting carried away really.

As someone said it's a bonus to be there and hopefully a stepping stone to something better in the years ahead.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 21, 2007, 11:36:47 AM
Want to wish you all a safe and hopefully enjoyable trip to and from Croker this evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 22, 2007, 12:32:41 PM
Well that was an anti climax and a half. Clearly many of our players did not play to their capacity, that said we were beaten very easily by a much better team. Ros were fitter, taller, stronger and more athletic than us. They played better football and they tactically out thought us too. We were completely wiped out at midfield. Both McCabe and Brennan seemed to be conceding 4" to their respective men. This was really our downfall as it contributed to other pressures on our team all over the pitch. I am not suprised by this as anyone who was at any of our league games would have seen this already. The question is why have management not tried to do something about this before now? If you are not going to outfield then you need to be breaking ball and crowding midfield & pick up breaks, but we didn't even do that - Or at least not until Ros took their foot of the pedal for a bit of a rest. Add to this that McCabe is just not mobile or athletic enough anymore, he stood watching as his lanky opponent ran around the pitch making up the extra man. Brennan couldn't get into the game at all but was unlucky to get the line. Onto Full Back, suprise suprise - again Forde destroyed and not even in the air. Forde is also a liability near the posts because he seems intent  on jumping into every challenge and fouling. By the time anything was done about this there was 6 points in it - game over. Forde should have got sent off too for persistant fouling. Chesty is not good enough for ctr back. I'll say it again, Gaynor is required now. Cullivan tried hard and did start jumping with the Ros giants in the 2nd half with some success. Flanagan was in and out and the wing back on him did damage going forward. Mckeever tried hard too but there was too much traffic in the Ros back line. Johnstone was our only player that could say he won his battle, maybe also cahill. Fannin very poor as was Gallagher and Pierson (who looks low on confidence to me)
Onto the management.... I can accept that Ros were just the better team but the decisions on the line were bizarre. We don't win a ball in midfield for 20 minutes so we take of jason at corner forward and bring on Pierson??? When we need a goal our prime goal scorer is now on the line for no good reason. We then move Johnstone to half forward even though he was the only threat in the FF line. Gunner is knackered so we take hime of for a rest in the 71st minute - genius!! We bring on our tallest sub for him (galligan) with time up and the game over. Surely Galligan should have gone in around the middle and tried to compete instead of Brennan much earlier. They did make a good call including johnstone I should addd.
Maybe this is our level of ability on and of the line and we should get used to it, I am just hoping that we are keeping some of our cards close to our chest. The most depressing thing is that all the hype did get a reasonable Cavan crowd to the match and after what they seen I doubt to many of them will be back. The other big negative is that there is a clear formula to beating this cavan team, big men around the pitch and drop a man or two into the defence to stop the speedy cavan forwards. Down will have taken note. I think if we want to beat down then major surgery is required. How about something as radical as this, and I am going to assume one player is brought back in to the panel and others get fit....


Reilly
Hannon
Rabitte/Gaynor (as neither would be fit to play out the field)   
Fannin
Forde
McKeever
Brady
Walshe
Mulvey
Cullivan
Lyng
Jason/Pierson
McCabe
Johnstone


   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 22, 2007, 12:51:31 PM
Fairly disappointing night I'm afraid. Starting with the crowd, 19,000 officially, we could be waiting a while for another day up there, more's the pity. Make no mistake, that was division two stuff we were watching in both games last night.

I think some of the players will be incredibly disappointed, last night was a massive opportunity to cast off the shackles and go for it, too few took the chance. Thought Hannon played really well, Cullivan was quite good, after that you are struggling. And yet, had we got any sort of return from our efforts at shooting scores, we could have been a lot closer.

One thing that would really worry me is that quality of some of the decision making on the sideline. Everybody on this board as well as Stevie Wonder have spotted that (a) Forde is not a full back and (b) is much better for the team when he is out the field. Well I hope the selectors finally learnt that lesson last night, once and for all. We also saw our midfield being wiped out by ordinary teams during the earlier stages of the league, from the 8th to the 35th minute it was repeated last night. Selectors response-sub Jason Reilly in the 27th minute. I'll accept our options were limited with injuries and suspensions.

Bad and all as Down are, not sure if we will take them. Mind you, the mushroom pickers were fairly bloody ordinary as well last night. As I drove home last night I had a disturbing image of a Roscommon full forward line that included Enda Muldoon and Paddy Bradley...........ho hum........
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: DUBSFORSAM1 on April 22, 2007, 12:54:47 PM
Well unfortunatley it was a poor game from Cavan who were beaten badly at midfield and couldn't pick up the breaks.....however one thing totally baffled me...

When your 6 points down why do you put your centre forward in a sweeping position in front of your full back line and only leave 2 men in the full forward line against 3 defenders???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 22, 2007, 01:13:30 PM
Myles
I was disgusted with one thing last night,the selection and Management of Keoghan and Grimley.
Forde was destroyed at full back by the big number 14,although he played ok when he was moved out
Martin Cahill was destroyed at Corner back by Ger Heneghan in the first half,although that had more to do with their Midfield destroying ours.The Ball that came into the number 15 was  awesome.No Cornerback would have played him with that type of service
I thought Michael Brennan had a decent enough game,He covered alot of ground kicked a good score and was prominent enough in open play,But hes not an Intercounty Midfielder(NOT BIG enough)
McCabe got a lesson from Seamus O Neil and also Michael Finneran the huge number 9 i think it was,he was destroyed in all aspects by both.
Yet what did the management do with our Full back and Midfield getting mauled,they brought on FORWARDS  :o
Ciaran Galligan should have been brought on after 20 minutes,Because Finneran and O Neil  wouldnt have been catching balls with ease over his head.
Gunner got an absolute roasting from Cathal Cregg the Number 12,That doesnt normaly happen.
i thought Chesty had a decent enough game...Probably not a centre half though.
I thought Fanin was also quite good.
Michael Hannon kept Mannion Quiet,and Later Heneghan.
Jonathon Crowe done ok on Mannion when he came on aswell.
Up front
Ronan Flanagan was good in all aspects.
McKeever didnt have his best night although he worked hard.
Ray Cullivan was one of the few outlets who actually won clean ball around the middle,The Management actually moved him to Mark Seamus O Neil near the end,
The 5'11 Cullivan against 6'4 or 6'5 O Neil,That was smart.
Gallagher done nothing last night.
Michael Lyng was good when he came on, as was Pierson.
I also thought Jelly done quite well last night aswell.
Larry Kicked a good score when he came on and had another one that dropped short by a matter of inches.

The Forwards kicked 14 points playing behind a beaten midfield,Id be encouraged by that.
The Backline and Midfield will have to be sorted for the Down match though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 22, 2007, 01:52:03 PM
Ballyhaiseman,

I'd agree that they forwards did ok considering the amount of possesion we lost in the middle. However, Ros only allowed us into the game when they were far enough in front, anytime we looked like mounting a come back (like when Cahill blasted over instead of under the bar) they upped the gears and put us back in our box. I mean they were cantering for most of the 2nd half. Fannins use of the ball when he got it was atrocious I thought - he looked very nervous. Down will beat us easy if we don't sort midfield, Full back and get an option (i.e. big man) at Full forward.

As for Ros, with that midfield pairing they will beat Sligo easily and will run galway/Mayo tight in the connaught final. I think they could be dark horses this year - but it is hard to know how good they are and how bad we are.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 22, 2007, 02:27:02 PM
On the subject of tactics etc. How many balls did James Reilly kick out in the first half, nearly dropping them on a sixpence to the same spot where McCabe competed and was beaten-quite a few. A few bits of variety could have eased the midfield slaughtering. Having said that, the one time he tried it late on in the match it backfired and cost us a point. The lad can be a bit dopey by times.

Simple fact is that we are two to three players short of being a good inter county side, however sideline decisions were of absolutely no help to our cause last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on April 22, 2007, 10:50:46 PM
Disappointing performance alright, would agree with most of whats been said re where our problems were and the decisions (or rather lack of them) on the line.  The tactic of taking the corner forward off when you are being destroyed in midfield is no longer even practised in Junior B football. 

This has been the first glitch (although it has been coming since the Sligo match) for the new mgt team so lets see how both they and the team respond for Down in 3 weeks.  As some have said before our minimum target for the year has been achieved in promotion, but what do we expect in the championship?  IMO if we win 2 championship matches UC or Qualifiers we will be doing well.

With everyone available this would be my team at the moment for the Down match.

1. James Reilly     (although work needs to be done to vary the kick outs)
2. Martin Cahill - has been our best defender so far in the league, Heneghan got a couple of scores off him last night but the FB line were under serious pressure
3. Michael Hannon Rabbitte has had no match practice so won't be ready in time
4. Ronan Flannagan IMO a better defender than forward
5. Anthony Forde his best position
6. Mark McKeever - With Lyngs return to the 40 I'd bring him back to the HB line
7. Jonathon Crowe - Will bring strenght to this line
8. Lorcan Mulvey - Hopefully will keep his head improve on some good passages of play shown earlier in the year
9. Nicholas Walsh - Job to spoil oppositions dangerman
10. Dermot McCabe - Interchanging with Cullivan
11. Michael Lyng - Class act
12. Paul Brady - I'd have him drop back and play alongside McKeever
13. Seanie Johnston - Must be played on the inside line, none of this nonesense of him in HF line
14. Ray Cullivan - Interchanging with Mccabe
15. Sean Brady - Has great potential, lets hope it now starts to come through. I' d have him dropping back into the HF line

I'd play it 3 4 3 2 2 with Johnston inside with either McCabe/Cullivan.
We need to turn the midfield into a scrap like we did 2 years ago. 

If Down play with a 2 man FF line I'd have Flannagan follow the roamer.

I have no confidence in Eamon Reilly, Brennan, Gallagher or Galligan.
Subs that could be used Peirson, Fannin,Jason, Larry, and either Marin Reilly or Mackay.

I know a lot of ifing and hoping there but shure lets talk about it. We are good at that.  :)







Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 22, 2007, 11:00:14 PM
Well the chickens came home to roost last night as I feared might happen, it's a good thing Ros weren't going for the jugular once they had the game wrapped up or it could have been worse.

The positives:

We never gave up despite being a beaten docket from a long way out.
0-14 while getting decimated at midfield isn't bad going and shows where the real strength of the team is. We have the forwards that can hurt teams.
The future of the team like Johnstone and Lyng look at home on the biggest stage.
You learn more from a defeat than a victory and now we must hope that the silver lining is surgery at full back and midfield. Winning against weak teams has papered over our problems so far, now the elephants in the room will have to be dealt with.
Hannon is far and away our best defender.
McKeever continues to work hard and is a vital player for us.
Mulvey, Walsh, Sean Brady, Rabbitte will make a difference when they come back.

The negatives:

Without spoilers like Mulvey, Walsh around the middle to bite and bollock our way to some sort of respectability or parity, we are an absolute joke at midfield. It'll be too easy to beat us and Down are quite well resourced there.
The deployment of our middle eight for the breaking ball is nothing short of horrendous. Time and time again the ball drops into an area exclusively staffed by opposition players with time to build and attack and pick out forwards. This used to be our forte, we now resemble a junior team such is our haplessness at this vital art.
McCabe is not cut out for the highest level any more. Seamie O'Neill had him in his back pocket last night. It was sad to see McCabe bullied out of it by a young fella.
Forde is not even the first cousin of an intercounty fullback, he'll better plug holes out around the half-back line.
We are crippled in the physical stakes by sheer lack of size. It looks like our underage policy of developing light, skilful talent is killing us at senior level. Policy revision required.
There was an apparent lack of brains on the sideline. This is to be expected from Keogan who is essentially a tourist in intercounty management, but you'd rely on Grimley to steer him in the right direction. Taking off Jayo when the problems were elsewhere smacked of panic and worse, rank stupidity. As did bringing Johnston out the field when he was hurting Roscommon inside when the ball did eventually make its way in.
Rory Gallagher is a f**king impostor in the Cavan jersey. Feeble, indecisive and worst of all, doesn't have the balls or the gumption to take his shot when well placed, preferring instead to pass the buck. Get him off the team now and get a real footballer in there with a bit of guts. A shocking non-peformance from a player once feared all over Ulster. Dreadful.

At dark times like this, I remind myself of the objectives back in January. Get promoted and avoid Tommy Morphine Cup ignominy, give Down a game and maybe win a qualifier or two. No reason to revise.

And on Gaynor...he won't be back, trust me on that one. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 22, 2007, 11:11:14 PM
Although the Wexford game left me completely dissillusioned the Croker effect let my heart rule my head to the extent that I thought we might pull one out of the bag last night. We can but t**ker with the team now for the C'ship with the hope that it will lead to improvement because whats really needed are players that are bigger and more powerful and we just don't have them at the moment. While that was the main reason for our defeat last night I thought our precision when it came to passing and linking was pitiful. A number of times when we got it back to four points we had good possession around the 40 and gave it away cheaply without being under too much pressure. So to the tinkering, in Rabbittes absence Hannon should be FB, Fannin drop back to CB, Forde to CHB and Chesty to lose out, Crowe/Brennan should complete the HB line with Gunner (uncharacteristically poor last night and his man ran riot in the first half). Mulvey/Walsh to partner McCabe, Walsh if fit will have to be given a serious chance there now. Despite one good point I was not impressed with Flanagan last night but would probably give him another chance ahead of Cunningham, McKeever too was not as prominent as usual but should stay CHF, Gallagher should only be a sub if Lyng gets fit, Cullivan was our best player last night, probably best as a HF but would like to see him again at FF with Lyng putting good ball into him, Gallaghers balls in to him last night were hopeless. For me its Jelly and Pierson inside with Jayo and Larry coming in for 20 mins.There, I'm getting giddy with excitement all over again.. :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 23, 2007, 08:47:05 AM
Very poor performance and only three weeks to try and patch things up.  I never though Walsh would be missed as much.  There are to many nice guys on the team and we need a couple of lads to get under the skins of the opposition and try and put them off there game.  Ciarain Galligan was carrying an injury last week and maybe that was why he wasn't introduced earlier but then why bring him on with time up.  Mccabe did try his best but their midfield was that tall he hadnt a hope of winning ball and couldn't even break it. I though brennan was very poor.  Gallagher should be told he isn't required anymore i though that he was going to be one of our main scoring forwards this year but as was said previous he is afraid to shoot.  In the first half miller did kick several kickouts cullivans way but Roscommon got cute to this and their midfield moved over towards him, why didn't mcCAbe and brennan go to the other side of the field is a mystery.  Fannin was brutal i though and i expected more from him at wing back which is more his natural position.  Flanagan kicked several chances wide as did johnston but at least he won the ball that went into him which is a positive.  I think its time to get rid of the two man full forward line aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ryano on April 23, 2007, 09:49:52 AM
Hard luck on the result lads. Not wishing to rub your nose in it but i was surprised at how poorly ye played. Thought that after going unbeaten we were in for a rough ride. I would agree with comments on the management too, some very strange decisions taken by them. There was no way you were going to win but i thought they could have made a better job of damage limitation. Your midfield was completely out of it so why ye kept dropping kick outs on top of them was beyond me. Short kick outs and play the wings might have been a better idea. But the one that really puzzled me was moving Johnston from the corner out to the HF line. He had his marker (Seanie Mac) beaten up a stick and was getting to any ball that was dropped within 10 yards of him. Mac was booked and i thought he was well on his way to getting a second yellow before ye changed Johnston. Mac was actually sent off on the same man last year up in Breffni park in the Murphy cup. Hard luck again lads, hope ye get back on track for the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 23, 2007, 01:29:31 PM
Went down to your game and Monaghans on saturday night. Very disappointed with the fair. Went as an Ulster man, thought Monaghan would get it tough and expected ye to do better. Unfortunately ye were a mess, no midfield with a shity full back and I have to say ye are as small a team as I have seen at couny level for many a year. Brennan is not county standard. Your keeper much be absolutely stupid. Down will be extremely difficult to beat on this performance
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 23, 2007, 01:46:04 PM
Max
we have been complaining about the lack of big men on the team for months.
The Waterford Manager described us as the "Smallest Senior Intercounty team" hes ever seen according to one of the cavan posters on here.
(PS Max Ballyhaise won at the weekend  ;) )
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 23, 2007, 01:59:05 PM
Haise how many is thbat ye have won in this years league....and how many have ye lost?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 23, 2007, 02:11:06 PM
1 win 1 draw and 2 defeats Max
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on April 23, 2007, 03:56:05 PM

From the Hoganstand:
 
"The Cavan school never looked back after Smith struck for two goals in the first half. During the same period, however, two Virginia players – Eugene Keating and Michael Smith – were stretchered off with serious injuries."


Are these two guys on the cavan minor team? Anyone know how badly injured they are?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 23, 2007, 04:38:13 PM
Eugene Keating is a super player and would have been one of the key players for the Cavan Minors this year,
Not sure about Michael Smith.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 23, 2007, 05:20:09 PM
Keating beat Monaghan minors on his own 2 weeks ago.

Suspected fractured ankle according to Irish News. That's the minors fucked as well then
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 23, 2007, 07:33:44 PM
Sorry to be a real bore here folks but I'm going to get back to a topic I banged on about before going into winter hibernation. It's topical in view of the crazy decision making on the line on Saturday night. Who is the boss man, Keogan or Grimley? This is not a trick question, I just want to know where the buck stops. From my understanding, Grimley was seriously rated up in Armagh and left because he saw his way to Joes job as being blocked by some appointment or other up there.

I imagine we can take it then that this is a seriously ambitious guy, willing to back his own judgement. If he got restless being Kernan's understudy it's fair to say he didn't come down here to be Keogan's Number 2, well not unless there is serious mullah involved, and we know our county board would not waste their money on an expensive journeyman, now would they.

I don't want to get negative at an early stage of the season, we got up, maybe we will learn some lessons for the Down game. However, I would love to know what the structure is because if it's not clear to the playing panel, say, it's not going to work. If it's not clear (e.g If Grimley feels like he is punching with one hand tied behind his back) it probably won't last too long.

Any insights welcome.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 23, 2007, 07:54:38 PM
Anglo, the last time I checked it was still McCabe who was calling all the shots ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2007, 07:57:30 PM
The rumour at the time of the appointment was that Keoghan was forking out the dosh himself to bring Grimley and others on board and that it was this that swung the job his way instead of cassidy. I did notice at the start of the game the team moved up to the canal end with Grimley doing their warm up drills and Keoghan was down at hill 16 collecting balls and doddling up the field with them. Looked more like a ball-boy than a manager.
I do have a sneaking suspicion that the management way have a plan B for the championship. In the past we have totally shown our hand during good league campaigns giving our opposition in the championship plenty of time to come up with a formula to beat us. Maybe this time we are keeping them guessing?? Or maybe I am giving too much credit to what seems, on the face of it, a poor management team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 23, 2007, 10:20:41 PM
Grimley's the main man, Keogan's only a front. During I think it was the Sligo match, I saw Grimley warming up a sub and bringing him on when Keogan was 50 yards away oblivious...

To give them some credit, at one stage the fella I was sitting beside turned to me and said "if you were the manager, what would you?", and he had a point. We had nothing on the bench to solve midfield - Galligan and Thomas just don't cut it - and we had already moved Hannon in to full back. What else was there to do??

By the way, Jason HAD to have been injured (I heard after he was carrying a niggle)? Surely...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 24, 2007, 08:23:16 AM

I do have a sneaking suspicion that the management way have a plan B for the championship. In the past we have totally shown our hand during good league campaigns giving our opposition in the championship plenty of time to come up with a formula to beat us.

If there isn't a plan B Down will hammer us because its the same system the whole league and every county knows it now.  The more i think about Saturday nite it was a bad  performance but was it as bad as it looked.  If we had of won even 35-40% at midfield and converted a small amount of the wides we prob would have won the game, maybe im totally wrong. 

Maybe my head is gone but im not going to give up on them yet.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Uladh on April 24, 2007, 10:15:54 AM

Why were cavan so poor at midfield and are there personnel who could come in and make a difference?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 24, 2007, 11:16:30 AM
Uladh, McCabe was our only recognised, fit intercounty midfielder for last Saturday night. He had an industrious first 15 mins or so then completely tired and was bossed about by O'Neill. His partner Michael Brennan is a utility man but isn't much good at any of the jobs he's put in to do. He has been tried in virtaully every defensive position, midfield and half forwards and might make a decent fist of wing back but you wouldn't be overly confident.

Other midfielders on panel are Walsh (injured), Mulvey (suspended) and Galligan (came on with a min to go, rumoured to have had a knock but looked to be moving very freely in warm up before throw-in). These guys are all big, tall and phyiscal and should make a difference when they return. None of them are exactly in the mould of Darragh O'Se or anything but they should disrupt the opposition and support McCabe more effectively, and hopefully break the ball to a set of half backs and forwards who are positioned and primed to dive in much better than they were on Saturday night.

The plan B idea is nice to cling to but from what I could see, we were foot-down, out to our last on Sat night and it's hard to see where much improvement will come from. As someone said, it's ironic to think we're all looking forward to Walsh's return as much as we are but needs must...with two of the above three back, Lyng starting and hopefully some sort of heed taken of where we went wrong and mistakes made against Roscommon, we can be competitive against Down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 24, 2007, 11:29:42 AM

I do have a sneaking suspicion that the management way have a plan B for the championship. In the past we have totally shown our hand during good league campaigns giving our opposition in the championship plenty of time to come up with a formula to beat us.

If there isn't a plan B Down will hammer us because its the same system the whole league and every county knows it now.  The more i think about Saturday nite it was a bad  performance but was it as bad as it looked.  If we had of won even 35-40% at midfield and converted a small amount of the wides we prob would have won the game, maybe im totally wrong. 

Maybe my head is gone but im not going to give up on them yet.


The more I think about it the more I see the main problem with MF and FB masking another equally big problem which is to do with our use of the possession we do get. Countless times especially in the 2nd half our moves broke down through lack of precision in either foot or hand passing or through lack of concentartion. This was nothing to do with lack of size or power. This lack of accurracy was also evident in the amount of wides we had. Up to their 1st goal we were actually doing well, we were a point up but then Jelly missed coming in off his corner and Gallagher missed badly when well placed, he also gave away another ball or two at this stage with poor passes inside. In the lead up to the killer 2nd goal Fannin (or Duggan as the announcer called him going off) lost possession of a ball he was first to on our '40. They were still much the better side but while they won midfield through their own efforts our efforts helped them greatly too elsewhere around the pitch. Improving on this aspect of our game can be helped by drills, more time with the ball but there is still the question of basic natural ability and whether we are 'good enough'. I certainly think we can improve in this area and with a lot of the same players we have done it in the past. The consolation for me is that we were not beatan on Sat while fielding our best players or best team so there has to be grounds for some hope in the Championship. If we get Mulvey/Walsh in there for Down and have Lyng fit and rarin to go from the start on the '40 then even this will improve greatly on the performance we saw on Sat. After that some positional switches (Fannin back to CB, Hannon to FB, Forde to CHB etc) could also give us that 30% improvement thats needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 24, 2007, 05:38:10 PM
Wouldn't disagree with alot of that. If we heed the lessons we should be able to give Down a game on the 13th.

The points you make on use of the ball are interesting. I think that outside the top 3 or 4 teams in the country, the players' ability to kick the ball accurately is absolutely deplorable. That's why Aussies come over and embarrass us by their skill on the ball, among other things. The handpass, and some teams cannot even do that accurately any more, is killing the natural skills of gaelic football.

Jack O'Connor's recent article in Irish Times raised this point and he suggested outlawing any team from making more than two handpasses in a row. Might be tough to police initially but we've done it with the two hops rule, so maybe this would work.

Anyway, one way or the other let's hope we find that 30% you mentioned.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 24, 2007, 10:14:35 PM


   Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
« Reply #813 on: April 23, 2007, 07:54:38 PM » 

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Anglo, the last time I checked it was still McCabe who was calling all the shots 



Nice one TB, now I've promised myself I won't be a bitterly cynical again until we have a season as fucked up as last years, which hopefully won't be for a long time, so I will neither agree or disagree on that one.

One topic that really came home to roost last Saturday night, which has been wrecking my head for a long time, was the lack of physique/physical power in the team (stop yawning up the back). I don't get to see any games up there any more so when I attend the odd county game down in the boon docks a few of us are always struck by the appearance of the very odd lad that looks like he at least has the physique of an inter-county footballer. I've had a think about this and have come up with a list of potential panelists that would give us a bit more in this area-Rabbitte, Podge Reilly, Gaynor, Gavin Duffy, Dermot Sheridan, Jonathon Crowe, Mulvey, Walsh, Ciaran Galligan, Cunningham, Alan Clarke.

Now I know people will have questions as to the ability of some of these guys. My point is, that for next  years league campaign, which will be a tester, we should be able to muster up enough players in a panel of 30 to at least give us some spine up the middle. We have to be able to compete with big men on the opposition, have the ability to retain possession, hit if needed, win ball in at full forward etc. etc. We have any number of good ball players who could feed of the efforts of some combination of these blokes. Another point is that some of these players need to be persisted with, worked on. Pierce McKenna was nobodys idea of an inter county footballer when he started out, he was given a chance and we would be glad to have him back right now. I'm not even going to suggest guys like McKenna, T Crowe, P Brady and Tierney for the purpose of this as I don't think it's going to happen at this stage.

One thing that gives me hope is that we started off the year with a good few big men, suspensions and injuries deprived us of a few last weekend, so it's fair to say the management team must be aware of the need in this area
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 24, 2007, 10:29:10 PM
Of Course this years panel is set in stone with just over 2 weeks to go before the Down Game,
But id agree with all those names you've thrown out AnglCelt,and i could add in a few of my own,but well ive done that lots in the past.
we need a bit of size through the team,
a Big Full back
a big Centre Half,
One or maybe two 6'3 plus midfielder/s
plus a targetman.

Meath might be no great shakes,but did anyone of you see the size of the spine of their team,They absolutely dwarfed Monaghan

Darren Fay 6'2 at Full Back
(Caoimhin King at wing back is also 6'2 plus)
Anthony Moyles 6'2 at Centre Back
Mark Ward and Nigel Crawford at midfield both 6'4
Kevin  Reily at Centre Forward 6'3

counting our goalkeeper we had at most 4 players who were 6ft of over starting against Roscommon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 25, 2007, 04:35:41 PM
Yeah all the Riles had to do was bomb high ball in on top of the Monaghan backs and the Farney boys coughed up a goal or a scoring opportunity almost every time.

I can't really offer an opinion as to the coaching development priorities in Cavan or average heights and size of the natives over the generations but assuming we're as likely to produce the same average number of able-bodied, big, physically strong men who play football, as they do in Armagh etc, then surely we must be deliberately implementing a policy at underage of favouring the development of light, skilful smallish lads who look great then, as opposed to retaining a core of physically strong guys who will stand out better when they move up the age ranks? I dunno. I just can't think it's all purely fate that we have no big men on our teams for God knows how long.

Somebody made a great shout on here ages ago about a physically strong, stout and hearty Parnells U21 team who in a final more than put it up to a bunch of stylists, albeit light ones, from Castlerahan, and almost won out. Where did those guys go? Is there nobody on that team worth a run with the county seniors? Perhaps not, and maybe it's too simplistic an argument to assume they're good enough and could do a job just because they're big, but I still think that as an absolute priority the county board has to direct coaches to actively seek out big, strong players and develop them in tandem with the small and skilful lads we seem to produce in droves, as opposed to favouring one type over the other as they seem to be doing at the moment.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: DUBSFORSAM1 on April 25, 2007, 05:01:03 PM
Have to agree the lack of size amongst the Cavan players on Sat was shocking...I felt sorry for McCabe with competing against 2 6'4 players in midfield for every kickout...
Mark Ward for Meath was a poor footballer but he won ball and just laid it off...Caavan have good players if they could get the ball...

The other aspect that has to be looked at is your forward line....why the fu*k when your 6 points down do you bring McKeever back to sweep in front of your full backline and then a full forward out to centre forward leaving 3 defenders against 2 forwards inside...especially and you then don't hit McKeever with kickouts!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 25, 2007, 05:16:31 PM

The other aspect that has to be looked at is your forward line....why the fu*k when your 6 points down do you bring McKeever back to sweep in front of your full backline and then a full forward out to centre forward leaving 3 defenders against 2 forwards inside...especially and you then don't hit McKeever with kickouts!!!!

Thats the way cavan have been playing all year!! Its the game plan  ::)  and hopefully it will be the last we see of it.  Whatever about bringing one of the full forward line out around half forward/midfield at least his man might follow him and leave the room in side.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 25, 2007, 05:24:52 PM
Yeah all the Riles had to do was bomb high ball in on top of the Monaghan backs and the Farney boys coughed up a goal or a scoring opportunity almost every time.

I can't really offer an opinion as to the coaching development priorities in Cavan or average heights and size of the natives over the generations but assuming we're as likely to produce the same average number of able-bodied, big, physically strong men who play football, as they do in Armagh etc, then surely we must be deliberately implementing a policy at underage of favouring the development of light, skilful smallish lads who look great then, as opposed to retaining a core of physically strong guys who will stand out better when they move up the age ranks? I dunno. I just can't think it's all purely fate that we have no big men on our teams for God knows how long.

Somebody made a great shout on here ages ago about a physically strong, stout and hearty Parnells U21 team who in a final more than put it up to a bunch of stylists, albeit light ones, from Castlerahan, and almost won out. Where did those guys go? Is there nobody on that team worth a run with the county seniors? Perhaps not, and maybe it's too simplistic an argument to assume they're good enough and could do a job just because they're big, but I still think that as an absolute priority the county board has to direct coaches to actively seek out big, strong players and develop them in tandem with the small and skilful lads we seem to produce in droves, as opposed to favouring one type over the other as they seem to be doing at the moment.

Thoughts?


Of that Parnells team I can tell you that At least from Killeshandra there was Declan McKiernan, Thomas Reilly and Daragh Tighe that are on the county minors this year. The first two of them are big lads at minor but obviously not senior size yet. There was also Cormac Geoghan than was on the U21s, he is from cornafaen - heard he didn't do that well with them. There are some good prospects there and I'd rate McKiernan as a good footballer who is definetely not afraid to give a dig or two, but thos guys are 3 years away from the seniors I reckon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: DUBSFORSAM1 on April 25, 2007, 08:33:44 PM

The other aspect that has to be looked at is your forward line....why the fu*k when your 6 points down do you bring McKeever back to sweep in front of your full backline and then a full forward out to centre forward leaving 3 defenders against 2 forwards inside...especially and you then don't hit McKeever with kickouts!!!!

Thats the way cavan have been playing all year!! Its the game plan  ::)  and hopefully it will be the last we see of it.  Whatever about bringing one of the full forward line out around half forward/midfield at least his man might follow him and leave the room in side.

Why not instead play someone like McCabe in full forward who can actually win 50-50 ball and create chances rather than pulling forwards out to midfield - let the midfielders win teh ball themselves and have someone to kick it to...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 25, 2007, 08:37:13 PM
Quote
Somebody made a great shout on here ages ago about a physically strong, stout and hearty Parnells U21 team who in a final more than put it up to a bunch of stylists, albeit light ones, from Castlerahan, and almost won out.

So we should fill our county team with big lads who already proved that they're not as good as the lighter fellas? You're panicking here!!!

I saw that final and Castlerahan we're ten times better. It was played in December on a brutal pitch - championships are played in summer on good pitches.

Cavan will be alright - we've already made good progress. Meath are in the league final and were lucky to draw with us. Wexford are a damn good team and we drew with them too.

Last week, we were missing Mulvey, Sean Brady, Walsh, you may as well say Paul Brady, Rabbitt. We had maybe 30% at midfield, yet our forwards racked up 14 points and kicked 16 wides.

We had a brutal first half but we won the second don't forget.

Plus, I always think losing by two goals eg 2-8 to 2-8 actually isn't as bad as losing say 0-14 to 0-8 if you get my drift (sounds stupid I know). We know our best team now I think - Mulvey and McCabe at the middle, Hannon full back, Cullivan full forward in place of Gallagher with Pierson in the corner. Lyng centre half. Forde centre back.

Bob's your uncle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 25, 2007, 10:07:17 PM
Quote
So we should fill our county team with big lads who already proved that they're not as good as the lighter fellas? You're panicking here!!!


That's a slightly disingenuous interpretation of my post as a whole don'cha think? I take your point but we're going nowhere without size and I'm just wondering are we discarding good big players because of some misguided total football notion that we'll prosper with nice, inoffensive sunshine footballers like Mackey...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 26, 2007, 10:32:09 AM
Quote
Somebody made a great shout on here ages ago about a physically strong, stout and hearty Parnells U21 team who in a final more than put it up to a bunch of stylists, albeit light ones, from Castlerahan, and almost won out.

So we should fill our county team with big lads who already proved that they're not as good as the lighter fellas? You're panicking here!!!

I saw that final and Castlerahan we're ten times better. It was played in December on a brutal pitch - championships are played in summer on good pitches.

Cavan will be alright - we've already made good progress. Meath are in the league final and were lucky to draw with us. Wexford are a damn good team and we drew with them too.

Last week, we were missing Mulvey, Sean Brady, Walsh, you may as well say Paul Brady, Rabbitt. We had maybe 30% at midfield, yet our forwards racked up 14 points and kicked 16 wides.

We had a brutal first half but we won the second don't forget.

Plus, I always think losing by two goals eg 2-8 to 2-8 actually isn't as bad as losing say 0-14 to 0-8 if you get my drift (sounds stupid I know). We know our best team now I think - Mulvey and McCabe at the middle, Hannon full back, Cullivan full forward in place of Gallagher with Pierson in the corner. Lyng centre half. Forde centre back.

Bob's your uncle.


Was at that U21 final myself and don't know how you reckon Castlerahan were the better team. It was fairly even I thought and Parnells could have nicked it. As for Mackey, well he was total rubbish that day and it was hard to believe he was on the senior county panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 27, 2007, 12:50:18 PM
We didn’t perform on the day,’’ says Keogan from Hoganstand
26 April 2007


Speaking after the game on Saturday 21st April in Croke Park, Cavan team-manager Donal Keogan said he was disappointed with the result. “We just didn’t perform on the night, and many of our key players struggled in the Croke Park arena.

“They were physically stronger around the middle of the field and we struggled in this vital area for long periods of the game. It meant that our defence was put under a lot of pressure, and with top forwards such as Heneghan, Kenny and Mannion the scores were bound to come.

“On the night the better side won, and deservedly so. We know we can and have played better, and the players themselves are very disappointed with the outcome of the game.

“We now face Down in the Ulster SFC in the coming weeks and that game now becomes our main focus. We know we have a big task ahead of us, considering that Down defeated us last season in the championship and are renowned as a championship side. We don’t underestimate the challenge ahead, but we have the chance to turn our season around if we can get a win over Down in Kingspan/Breffni Park, Cavan on May 13th.’’

Keogan added that they hope to have a number of players such as Lorcan Mulvey and Nicholas Walsh back for the Down game, while Michael Lyng and Larry Reilly will great strengthen their options in the forward division.

He added: “The Cavan side have done well this season in gaining promotion to Division 2 of the NFL next season. The disappointment of the Roscommon defeat will be quickly forgotten if we can overcome Down on the 13th of May, and get a positive start to the championship campaign. The management have every confidence and belief in the players, and a great effort by management and players will be forthcoming in the coming weeks to achieve that result,’’ he concluded.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 29, 2007, 07:30:45 PM
Well that result today puts things in perspective for us, or as they say in Spinal Tap - too much f**king perspective.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 29, 2007, 08:20:01 PM
was O Neil playing? or even if he was, was he anywere near fit,Hes huge for them.
Didnt bother my arse going into Breffini,anyone go?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 29, 2007, 11:06:00 PM
Didn't go but seen a bit on the highlights on TG4. O Neill came on as a sub before half time. The one thing that has struck me about Meath this year is the amount of goals they get and how often they prove the difference in games. I think Cavans return on goals this year has been very poor. None against Meath, Sligo, Wicklow or Wexford (I'm leaving out Antrima and Waterford for obvious reasons). We also haven't looked like getting them when in the past we always had a reputation as a team that would score goals. Where has it gone wrong this year? Is it as simple as our goal scorer supreme, jason, slowing up a bit.

Ballyhaiseman - another narrow defeat at the w'end. Are county men allowed play in these games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 29, 2007, 11:28:11 PM
Yeh narrow defeat,
Jonathon Crowe and Rory Gallagher were playing for C'Lough,
Cullivan wasnt playing for us,dont know what was wrong if hes injured or what?
we had a bad start, were 1-04 to 0-01 down,The goal coming off a mistake from one of our inexperienced Cornerbacks.
Although from then on,we gave as good as we got..but couldnt claw our way back.

Crowe was very good playing midfield
Gallagher kicked one great score from play,Scored a few from frees and missed a few aswell..playing full forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 30, 2007, 10:57:26 PM
The one thing that has struck me about Meath this year is the amount of goals they get and how often they prove the difference in games.

And in particular, Brian Farrell. He must have bagged at least 6 during the league this year if not more...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 01, 2007, 04:40:54 PM
Some lad posted this up on hoganstand:
Quote from: Ishmael
Ok here comes the debate of all debates.
I’ve taken into consideration the 2006 League and Championship, clubs current standings in the league at present and number of county ex-county players (to a lesser extent). In MY opinion, here’s how your club ranks in Cavan Football:

1. Cavan Gaels
2. Mullahoran
3. Ballinagh
4. Castlerahan
5. Gowna
6. Cuchulainns
7. Crosserlough
8. Kingscourt
9. Belturbet
10. Denn
11. Lacken
12. Drumalee
13. Belturbet
14. Killygarry
15. Drumlane
16. Ballyhaise
17. Ramor
18. Lavey
19. Knockbride
20. Drumgoon
21. Redhills
22. Drung
23. Cootehill
24. Laragh
25. Shercock
26. Baileboro
27. Ballymachugh
28. Swadlinbar
29. Cavan Gaels (B)
30. Kill
31. Butlersbridge
32. Kildallon
33. Shannon Gaels
34. Munterconnaught
35. Killeshandra
36. Templeport
37. Arva
38. Mullahoran (B)
39. Maghera
40. Corlough
41. Mountnugent
I know there are a few mistakes here and there (the omissions of Cornafean and Killinkere and Belturbet in twice). Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. I think it is fairly accurate...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 02, 2007, 02:50:10 PM
According to some lad on the Hoganstand message board, Cavan beat longford well at the weekend. The same lad also claims gaynor was playing at corner back and McCabe started FF. I have no idea if there is a grain of truth to this. Has anyone any info on it? Also seen on Hoganstand that Walsh and Mulvey will be back for the Down match even though Walsh didn't play for the gaels win over Belturbet at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 02, 2007, 02:58:32 PM
i wouldn't read much into it myles 80% of stuff written on that is lies.  Mulvey's suspenion will be up before the down game.  No nothing about Walsh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 02, 2007, 03:18:45 PM
I'll eat my hat if Gaynor is involved in the county team under Keogan. Now I don't even wear a hat, but I'd find one somewhere and eat it nonetheless.

Walsh is supposed to be training away for a few weeks wihtout any reaction so hopefully we'll get a few minutes antagonistic-type play out of him against Down at the very least. On the basis of the Roscommon wipe-out, he's badly needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 02, 2007, 08:40:18 PM
He saw the wild head of hair on Hannon probably and thought it was gaynor. Sorry for posting such wild rumour. Apparantley we did beat Longford well so that is good. This time of the year we normally get hammered in some challenge game (like V Dublin 2 yrs ago)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on May 02, 2007, 11:09:31 PM
The lad on Hoganstand said Gaynor was in the corner so this makes it more than likely that he is mixing him up with Hannon, if this is true then the worse part of this is that Hannon is still in the corner and not being tried at FB. :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 03, 2007, 11:20:27 AM
That's most likely. Hannon's whin-bush-in-a-force-ten-gale hairstyle would make you think he was Gaynor alright.

I presume it was still Forde at no.3 then, yeah?  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 03, 2007, 07:54:00 PM
Challenge games wins for Cavan minor and senior sides
03 May 2007


During the past week, Cavan minor and senior teams have been preparing diligently for the forthcoming Ulster championship clashes with Down in Kingspan/Breffni Park, Cavan on Sunday week, 13th of May.

The senior side travelled to Killoe, Co. Longford during the week and had a convincing victory over Longford in a competitive challenge game. After a close opening half, the Cavan side upped their game in the second-half and pulled away for an impressive win.
The county minor team were also in action during the week when they played Westmeath in a challenge game on Tuesday evening in Mullingar. The Cavan side turned in an impressive performance especially in attack, and ran out convincing winners in the end. The highlight of the game was some excellent point scoring by the Breffni side.

Now the focus for both sides is their championship meetings with Down on Sunday week. Preparations seem to be going well, and hopefully, they can ’do the business’ in front of their own supporters in Kingspan/Breffni Park on May 13th
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 04, 2007, 08:02:11 PM
havent been online much due to exams.
Things are too quiet on here.
At least let us start ridiculous speculation as to what the team for May 13th should be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 04, 2007, 11:53:26 PM
havent been online much due to exams.
Things are too quiet on here.
At least let us start ridiculous speculation as to what the team for May 13th should be.

To kick of the ridiculous speculation.....

The Cavan Team will be

James Reilly (hopefully with some ants in his pants to keep him awake)
Hannon
Forde (cos they ain't for turning in the management)
Fannin
Brady
McKeever
Crowe
Walshe
Mulvey
Cullivan
Lyng
Sean Brady
Pierson
McCabe (apparently tried here in recent friendly v Longford)
Johnson

I am trying to get some size into this team and I reckon McKeever is needed at Ctr Back, so what do ye think of that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 05, 2007, 01:56:06 PM
agree with most of what you suggest there Myles. There are probably 11/12 people on your team that will start, it's a case of what position. There are two things to think about here, firstly who we think should start and, more importantly who will start on the day. Any set of selectors like to be seen as their own men etc. etc. and not being responding to the latest set of demands from supporters, pub selectors, media or internet screen jockeys. So as regards people that will start I am fairly certain that Eamon Reilly will start as he's been there all through the league-might be better on the wing or in the corner though. I also wouldn't rule out Gallagher starting either for the reason that his coming on board was seen as a coup by Keogan etc. etc. Not saying I'm fierce excited about either person starting but on will start and two may do so.

As for your predicted starting 15 the biggest concern is A Forde at Number 3. It's all been said here before and won't go into it again. I would turn the clock right back to the mid 90's when he came on the scene as a half forward and would get him up there again. He was turned into a defender to help cope with the lack of defenders at the time (ditto Peter Reilly) and while he has always been superb on the ball, his tackling remains a bit suss-as in the Rossie game at Croker. Out the field he is a serious forager, will get to the breaks around the middle and can get good quick ball in to the forwards. Hannon for full back in the absence of Rabbitte or the great un-named one of Ballinagh. Not perfect but has to be done. Incidentally, I think Hannon is the best corner back we have seen in a blue jersey in many's a day-good with ball in hand, good with ball not in hand, gets forward by times and good natural force/aggression which is well channeled. Would have been an automatic pick on the 97 team in my opinion.
Agree with McKeever at CHB-needed to strengthen that line hopefully he can turn in another like the Armagh game a few years ago which I thought was one of the better championship performances by a Cavan player in the last few years. Would consider Flanagan for a place somewhere, possibly in the half back line.

Options at mid field and half forward line to compete out the middle, which is what is needed. Also agree with having McCabe in at Full Forward, looks like the legs just can't quite take the full 70 minutes championship football any more. He can do stints out there with Cullivan or Sean Brady moving in if needed. Toss up between Jason or Pierson to start. Jason still has that goal getting threat which could be a clincher if things are tight.

So, some tight selection decisions to be made and we have to rely on the management team to make the calls in terms of up to the mimute form, confidence and, importantly, fitness levels for the likes of Sean Brady and Walsh.

Having the likes of Lyng, Mulvey, Walsh, Sean Brady available for selection gives us the chance to put out a much more competitive outfit than lined out against the Rossies, Hope the selectors get it right and we end up smiling. But please, move Forde out-I'm sure ho would welcome the prospect as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 05, 2007, 09:48:18 PM
Is the minor game on before the senior game next Sunday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 05, 2007, 11:02:22 PM
Usually is.

Heard very little so far about our minor team being the best since our last great minor team of last year, so maybe that's a plus.

We've restored respect at senior level after last year. We need it all to go right on Sunday, Down only need some of it to go right but feck it, with an improved approach on the sideline, a full 70 minute performance and a bit of luck we can extend the season. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 06, 2007, 10:52:20 AM
my team for Down would be

1.Miller
2.Cahill
3.Hannon
4.Fannin
5.Gunner
6.McKeever
7.Forde
8.Mulvey
9.Walsh
10.Cullivan
11.Lyng
12. Sean Brady
13.Pierson
14.McCabe
15.Jelly

Crowe,Brennan  Chesty ,Cunningham and Jayo very unlucky to miss out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 08, 2007, 09:43:16 PM
Was reading an article on the hoganstand that Cavan, for the 1st time in a long time, have a full panel to choose from. Then up pops another article informing us that Darren Rabbitte won't make it.

So we have all named our teams, so what about a guess at the score. Can't see goals in us with Jayo likely to be on the bench and I can see goals in Down with Coulter likely to go in on Forde. Taking a cold hearted look at it I would guess the following score...

Down 2-10
Cavan 0-13

Hopefully I will be wrong and you can all call me a negative bollocks next Sunday ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 08, 2007, 11:01:11 PM
Ah feck it myles can we not just call ye a negative ould bollocks now??!! ;D

On team selection, Ballyhaise man and I are on the same hymn sheet here:

1.Miller
2.Cahill
3.Hannon (we can't carry Forde here any longer, nuff said)
4.Fannin
5.Gunner
6.McKeever (Chesty ain't a number 6. Why hasn't he tried out at number 3, his club position?)
7.Forde
8.Mulvey
9.Walsh
10.Cullivan
11.Lyng
12. Sean Brady
13.Pierson
14.McCabe
15.Jelly

I like the look of that team. My biggest problems were Forde at no. 3, Chesty at no.6 and the need for both good scavengers and physical strength in the middle eight. Gunner, McKeever and Forde are a decent half back line in that respect, Crowe another gutsy option too. Mulvey and Walsh will be well aided on any potential spoiling mission by a physically strong Cullivan and Sean Brady who plays midfield for both his clubs UCD and Castlerahan and does well there. He also has a nice eye for a pass inside (had a very productive opening 15 mins against Kildare last year in this respect) as does Lyng, which is vital if we're to hit McCabe accurately and indeed more so the smaller lads who need virtually clean ball to get hands to it.

Throw Larry and Jayo into the mix for the last 15 mins of a tight match, to hopefully feed off a still functional McCabe, and things look positive. That's the plan anyway, as we all know, there's many a slip between cup and lip....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 09, 2007, 08:38:53 AM
Anyone hear anything about our county manager misbehaving at the weekend ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 09, 2007, 08:43:09 AM
lads
is it all ticket on Sun ?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 09, 2007, 08:47:47 AM
i heard it was and then i heard it was just the covered stand that was ticket.  If it was gonna be all-ticket id say they would be out by now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 09, 2007, 09:24:45 AM
Paul Grimley's Armagh involvement has been firmly cast aside and a new dawn beckons for him as trainer to the Cavan footballers who face Down in the 2007 Ulster SFC opener at Breffni Park this Sunday.

So far, he has been delighted with the commitment which his new charges have given to himself and new Cavan manager Donal Keoghan.

"They don't give any trouble and they are very dedicated and committed to their training and they are very keen to do well which from a management or training point of view is always a plus," Grimley said.

Assistant manager to Armagh supremo Joe Kernan for five years, Grimley stepped down last August having helped guide the Orchard county to the 2002 All-Ireland title and four Ulster SFC titles along with a National League crown.

He feels there is no difference in the commitment shown by this Cavan side and the Armagh players, whom he trained so successfully.

"There is no difference (between them). I have been involved with Armagh for five years and the fantastic work ethic that they had and their great attitude with that. Obviously when I came to Cavan I tried to instill that in these players and thankfully they have responded to that."

Having lost last year's corresponding fixture, it will certainly mean a lot to Cavan supporters if their side can beat Down this coming weekend.

Grimley believes that psychologically, his players are well positioned for victory.

"The players are in a good frame of mind. They are all looking forward to the Ulster championship and they are very upbeat and very positive and obviously last year's result is long gone as is our league programme. We are looking forward to taking on Down. There is a challenge there that has to be met and especially when it is at home."

The Armagh Harps clubman feels that there may be an Ulster championship in this team this year.

"I think when you are involved in management you have to believe that whatever you are doing is the right thing and you have to believe that it will take you as far as you possibly want to go," continued Grimley.

"We want to get to an Ulster final. It remains to be seen if we can get that far. Obviously we are not taking our eye off the ball, we realise here that we have a very strong challenge to overcome this Sunday.

"The attitude here is that while it would be lovely to be involved in an Ulster final, we have to take one game at a time. We are under no illusions as to what it will take.

He is cautious not to let the thoughts of Cavan supporters influence the players, adding: "The players are mentally very strong themselves but at the end of the day supporters don't win matches - it's the footballers who win them. As far as people would say good players make good managers."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 09, 2007, 10:22:38 AM
i heard it was and then i heard it was just the covered stand that was ticket.  If it was gonna be all-ticket id say they would be out by now.

thanks Chief
if I can get away from that confirmation in Virginia in time, I hope to get there.
If its as good as the last Cavan v Down game I saw in Breffni, then it will be well worth the tonge lashing from the wife for leaving the apres confirmation dinner !
 :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 09, 2007, 10:30:53 AM
sure the games not till 4 anyway unless the confirmation is mad late u will make it. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 09, 2007, 03:39:49 PM
I'm sure most of you lot have already seen this post on the hoganstand but just in case ye missed it, I thought I'd post it here. Made my day anyway.

Match a club with a car/vehickle

1. Cavan Gaels - BMW (No extras, standard 2.0, beiche coloured)Just about convinces you that its middle class
2. Mullahoran - John Deere 5003 Series (Brand New !)all torque
3. Ballinagh - Toyata Landcruiser (like Morris’s). 5th gear never works well
4. Castlerahan - a Corvette (guy with mullet and moustache driving though)
5. Gowna - Volvo FH12 (big engine, slightly outdated). Everybody calls the truck "P"
6. Cuchulainns - Toyata Corrolla (bit flat, but goes well)
7. Crosserlough - VW Jetta (very reliable, but is found wanting in a real race)
8. Kingscourt- Ford Capris (good condition) - great car back in the day. This car’s demise is attributed to the formation of a soccer club in the town.
9. Belturbet - Honda Civic (Great engine but the rest is dissappointing)
10. Denn - Ford Probe (lots of shouts, never amounted to much though)You can see this car parked outside Hairy Neds most evenings
11. Lacken - Some breed of a 4x4 with a winch, handy for pulling and dragging
12. Drumalee - The word "Drumalee" itself suggests a white Ford Escort, furry dice, spoiler, teddys .. u get the message.
14. Killygarry - New VW Golf (had a good reputation but things are going downhill). Has a nice garage to put it in all the same.
15. Drumlane - a souped up Ford Fiesta. Punching above its weight
16. Ballyhaise - Volvo estate (lots of room to work with. Needs Sat-Nav to get around the pitch
17. Ramor - Opel manta (see Kingscourt). Opel Mantas are very very hard on juice :1
18. Lavey - Some type of really classy teleporter
19. Knockbride - A Rover. Tried soo hard to be a high-end car (sounds good, but not taken seriously by the big boys)
20. Drumgoon - Ford Mondeo - Was going to take over the world at one stage, not impressive any more
21. Redhills - Seat Toledo - lacks substance, bit tinny. Some handy features though. A "good young car"
22. Drung - Toyata Celica with a HUGE Exahust - Emits alot of fumes
23. Cootehill - a Glasgow Celtic coloured car, doesnt matter what make. A Celtic coloured donkey will do.
24. Laragh - an orange ice-cream van. Tried to change the colour of the van to sky blue at one stage,as this was affecting its performance ;)
25. Shercock - a convertible skoda. Nothing to keep the rain off, like the pitch
26. Baileboro - Some sort of a Jaguar that some mechanic was doing up. He promised all his mates it was going to blow their minds - but its up on blocks now.
27. Ballymachugh - Ford 7610 4wd. Practical
28. Swadlinbar - Camoflauged bullet proof van.
29. Cavan Gaels (B) - a BMW car door ... doesnt matter as long as it LOOKS affluent. Perception is everything, apparently.
30. Kill - Opel Corsa with a sunroof. Needs more punch
31. Butlersbridge - Nissan Micra with a Mercedes badge (sponsered by the Black Horse)
32. Kildallon - Hillman Hunter, with knee bandages
33. Shannon Gaels - Ford T Model without the engine
34. Munterconnaught - A Pimped-Up school bus
35. Killeshandra - Fiat Punto, with alloys, exhaust and the works. A Ceili band in the back. Biker convoy tailing it
36. Templeport - Morris Minor. Complete with driver, wearing a driving hat at a jaunty angle.
37. Arva - A VW ..... mini van. A .. van .. that .. boxes ..you in the ribs ... when .. its tackling you .. and buys you a pint of Brandy in the pub afterwards and then slaps you really hard on the back.
38. Mullahoran (B)- A forklift. A very proud forklift with a white check shirt and a nice hair parting. Fuelled on bottles of Bud
39. Maghera - AC Milan coloured tractor lawnmower.
40. Corlough - a Motorized Pram
41. Mountnugent - a Wheelbarrow. Not a great wheelbarrow

From Hoganstand, by JCB Man

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 09, 2007, 05:18:43 PM
I'm sure most of you lot have already seen this post on the hoganstand but just in case ye missed it, I thought I'd post it here. Made my day anyway.

Match a club with a car/vehickle

1. Cavan Gaels - BMW (No extras, standard 2.0, beiche coloured)Just about convinces you that its middle class
2. Mullahoran - John Deere 5003 Series (Brand New !)all torque

5. Gowna - Volvo FH12 (big engine, slightly outdated). Everybody calls the truck "P"
6. Cuchulainns - Toyata Corrolla (bit flat, but goes well)
7. Crosserlough - VW Jetta (very reliable, but is found wanting in a real race)
8. Kingscourt- Ford Capris (good condition) - great car back in the day. This car’s demise is attributed to the formation of a soccer club in the town.

16. Ballyhaise - Volvo estate (lots of room to work with. Needs Sat-Nav to get around the pitch

17. Ramor - Opel manta (see Kingscourt). Opel Mantas are very very hard on juice :1

 :D

Best of all though:

11. Lacken - Some breed of a 4x4 with a winch, handy for pulling and dragging  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 10, 2007, 07:42:10 PM
Needs Sat Nav to get around the pitch  :D

That post is hilarious Homer

i see the team well ive seen two teams named, in the other thread,
Gunner at cornerback makes sense,Hes the pefect man to mark Coulter,Quick,Strong and outstanding in the air.
Chesty at full back though,i have my doubts.

But what makes me happy about this is,it shows Grimley has the tactical knowledge that has been missing from our team managements of the past in that he will actually make changes when necessary.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 11, 2007, 08:19:24 AM
Nice to hear that we're a Skoda, an ever improving car. Too true about the convertable bit though...  :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 11, 2007, 09:49:48 AM
CC1 seeing as you're a shercock man
Is Michael O Reily starting at Midfield for the minors?
Seen him play Under 21 last year and was very impressed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 11, 2007, 09:52:44 AM
Cavan minor team v Down – A. O’Meara; R. Farrelly, R. Dunne, O. Minagh; D. Graham, T. Reilly, J. McEvoy; Barry Watters capt., J. McEnroe; Niall Smith, D. McKiernan, A. Cole; M. Cunningham, C. Smith, Martin Dunne
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 11, 2007, 10:09:44 AM
Lethal Full Forward Line,

Enough ball and they will destroy any Full back line at this level.
Midfield id have my worries though.
Barry Waters is a brilliant footballer, but a midfielder? im not sure hes big enough.
J McEnroe better be an absolute Giant.
Rory Dunne at Full back, Brick i always thought he was a mf or a forward.
good half back line aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 11, 2007, 11:44:41 AM
Great, we should lead by 4 going into last 5  mins and lose by a point in injury time.

Me of little faith. :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 11, 2007, 12:32:26 PM
Lethal Full Forward Line,

Enough ball and they will destroy any Full back line at this level.



Oh christ no, I knew it was too good to last...........................................................

In fairness to Ballyhaise Man he has managed to express reservations about midfield so we have not yet progressed to the annual idiocy of the best ever Minor Team with the Captain practicing his as Gaeilge for September assuming that Ulster is a piece of piss as usual. Again, here's hoping
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 11, 2007, 12:37:21 PM
Anglo

The Full Forward line is outstanding,
But there are aspects of that team id be seriously worried about.
Midfield for one,
Watters is a half forward or half back not a midfielder. im suprised Michael O Reily of Shercock isnt playing at midfield,the guy is a class act in my opinion.
i Dont expect this team to beat Down.

Some players on there i know little about.
i know Graham and Reily in Half Back line are good.
No Doubt in keeping with Cavans legacy,the team will be dwarfed by their Down counterparts throughout the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 11, 2007, 12:47:21 PM
Watters played midfield and Centre half forward on the county vocationals team.  He is at his best when he runs at players and it will be interesting to see how he gets on under kickouts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 11, 2007, 01:05:04 PM
C4ever

id be a traditionalist in that id always prefer at least one and normaly two 6'2 6'3 ballwinner/s at centrefield at minor level.
we have that in Michael Reily and hes not just a statue either,the guy can play.
I rate Watters very very highly.

a Daniel Graham,Tomas Reily and Barry Watters half back line would be awesome with Watters skills of carrying the ball in evident.
who is the manager anyway Jody Clarke?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 11, 2007, 03:57:05 PM
yeah i think it is i wonder will he make a fool of himself again this year by crying on tv.    I see the messge board on the Senior game has turned into a slagging match between armagh and down posters  :-X
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2007, 03:01:52 PM
All that remains to be said is good luck to the Cavan Senior and Minor Squads. It would be a great boost to the county to get 2 wins on Sunday. See ye there lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on May 12, 2007, 08:27:45 PM
Hear hear the slasher...

Anyone hear anything about Pierson and Forde???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 12, 2007, 08:32:59 PM
Sorry to hijack yer thread lads but i need to ask a question

I have got a offer of some work in Kingscourt(im a electrical contractor) Im working out of Lucan in Dublin,is it a good spin to get to Kingscourt would it be worth driving up that far for a day or twos work?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 12, 2007, 10:22:52 PM
CC1 seeing as you're a shercock man
Is Michael O Reily starting at Midfield for the minors?
Seen him play Under 21 last year and was very impressed.
Sorry, bit late replying to your post Ballyhaise man. Michael is a very very good player, he's very dedicated and has it all (speed, height, strength, skill, passing ability) apart from shooting alot of the time. If you were to ask me what the best part to his game is, then you would have to say his spring and catch. He has an absolutely phenominal leap on him, he's 6'2 or 3 and I would say he could nearly add an extra foot onto that with his leap.

I'm very surprised that Jody left him out of the 15, but I don't know enough about the other players to make a judgement on them. If they are better players than Reilly, then we're in for a treat I'm sure! He impressed alot of people last year senior and u21 and was arguably one of our best players along with Sean Magee and Paddy McPhillips. He scored three points from midfield against Knockbride this year, which isn't bad at all. Either way, I reckon we'll see him at some stage tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 13, 2007, 12:26:50 AM
Sorry to hijack yer thread lads but i need to ask a question

I have got a offer of some work in Kingscourt(im a electrical contractor) Im working out of Lucan in Dublin,is it a good spin to get to Kingscourt would it be worth driving up that far for a day or twos work?
It would take you 50 minutes to get to Kingscourt from the N3/M50 roundabout on a good day. Normally doesn't take much longer than that...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on May 13, 2007, 02:05:03 AM
Is Michael Reilly a son of Packy's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 13, 2007, 11:15:12 PM
Well i dont know what to make of that performance,had some good aspects and some bad ones.
anyway my ratings

1.James Reily,saved us yet again,the man is a saint,kickouts very good as usual. 8

2.Martin Cahill, had a hard time marking Danny Hughes,but stuck to his task well and eventually came out on top. 7

3.Eamon Reily,done ok,but Packie Downey did get on alot of ball. 6

4.Paul Brady,Roasted by Gunner early on,improved when moved out to the half back line,Not vintage gunner by any means,but done ok. 6

5.Michael Hannon,switched into mark Coulter early on,in my opinion done a good job on him,Isolated too much on the MayoBridge man,(bad tactics by Cavan) but done aswell on him one on one as anyone could. 7

6.Anthony Forde,Very underpar performance,wasnt at the races today. 6

7.Ronan Flanagan,Very good,got on the ball well,picked up breaks,foot passing accurate,very good in possession 8.

8.Dermot McCabe,A Collosus at Centre Field,everything went through him.Fielded good ball,kick passing was mostly exquisite and some great long range frees. 8

9.Lorcan Mulvey,Looked overweight,Completely defeated at Centre Field by Dan Gordon,didnt have the legs to stay with him.Wont be playing the next day. 5

10.Ray Cullivan,very disappointed in Culli,nothing went right for him today at all. 6

11.Mark McKeever,Unusually sloppy,hasnt been the attacking presence we've come to expect this year yet,needs to contribute more scores like he done other years,but worked hard. 6

12.Larry Reily,started brilliantly,but fizzled out,then reappeared when the game was on the line,and ran at the heart of the Down Defence,this game will bring his fitness on alot aswell. 7

13.Seanie Johnson,scored one out of 4 shots,movement was good,but didnt always get the ball when open,unlucky to be taken off as he got the better of his marker. 7

14.Gerard Pierson,scored 3 points but missed 5 or 6 shots aswell,Movement very good,Gave Rooney? his opposition player a torrid time with his movement.If he can get more accurate,he will be a match winner next week,again i questioned him being taken off. 7

15.Jason Reily, uncharacteristically Missed two goal chances,Movement was good though.missed a few scorable chances as well. 7

subs,
Michael Lyng ,done very well when came on,should start the next day. 7

Sean Brady,kicked a super point and showed well for ball,should start the next day. 7

Nicholas Walsh,won a few important balls in the last few minutes to set up attacks,should start the next day at centrefield in place of Mulvey.7

Jonathon Crowe,done well for the goal,i think his physical presence would be very helpful in the half back line the next day.7

Cian Mackey,done ok,looked lively but done some stupid things like kicking the ball straight up in the air. 6

In my opinion the first 4 subs named should be starting the next day,
we need to adopt serious defensive tactics to stop the leaking of goals.
the naming of Forde as a forward then dropping him back in front of Coulter is one that should be looked into.
i questioned some of the substitutions aswell.
What was with Mulveys Physique? christ has the man trained in the last month?i was expecting big things from him today,but he was just too heavy and immobile.



As for the minors
Desperate performance by a woeful team

Oisin Minagh outstanding,
Rory Dunne done well,but hes not a full back,he got skinned a couple of times because hes not a natural defender,But other than that i thought he was good.

the small number 2 from Lurgan was roasted.

Thomas Reily done well i thought,Daniel Graham was ok

Very disappointed in Barry Watters.
James McEnroe was non existant

Adrian Cole tried hard and was probably our best player
disappointed in Martin Dunne and McKiernan

Conor Smith done well
Mark Cunningham scored some great points and is a lovely footballer,
But hes no sharpshooter im afraid
Eugene Keating looks a class act.
Michael O Reily of shercock should have been on much earlier
David Givney the number 20 wasted a glorious goal chance near the end.
Worst Minor team in 5 years.
Diabolical stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on May 15, 2007, 04:12:43 AM
I don't see the doom and gloom after Sunday's performance.I have to add that I only saw it on Setanta.Midfield was on top throughout and we got the majority of the breaks there as well. The forwards won nearly all the ball that was played in early to them.They took too many shots from bad positions but at least they took it upon themselves to shoot and they will not be as unlucky the next day.I didn't think the Down goalie made as big of a mistake as everyone seems to think for the last goal,but you probably saw more replays than I did.The defence did not play with enough confidence and so always let the Down player out in front to get the ball and then they would try and contain the damage.This never works unless the other team can't score at all. It is not that they are bad players but someone needs to step up and say  "I'll go out on Sunday and get shoulder to shoulder with Coulter and make sure he does not get as easy a time as he did on Sunday" he does not even have to get the ball himself just keep it away from him and frustrate him as much as he can.The Down forwards were given time on Sunday to collect the ball and then turn and pick up a head of steam before they even met a defender.As I say we have as good a footballers it's just a matter of confidence or belief.I'm just pissed we won't get to see it out here and I'll have to watch Tyrone and Fermanagh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: C-na-G on May 15, 2007, 10:34:22 PM
What was the idea of bringing on Mackey on Sunday? The lad was a good minor but doesnt cut it at this level. He disrupted what was a reasonably successful full forward line. At one stage Mc Cabe had a free at about 60 Yards. Jason and Pierson made a run to one corner and Mackey just followed them disrupting their space and leaving acres the other side of the field where he should have been.

I know he won one crucial free but he has no ability to win ball either and any ball he did get beside the aforementioned he wasted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 16, 2007, 04:02:57 PM
Mackey is living on his reputation as a minor which was a long time ago.  Is there any hope for us atall if grimley is as hot as people say he should come up with a plan to stop the Down half-backs waltzing up the field and opening up our defence.  Someone that might track back with them would be a start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on May 16, 2007, 05:01:04 PM
Happened to say to someone beside me that Mackey has a habit of putting the head down, getting bottled up and kicking the ball straight up in the air.

30 seconds later and he did one of his best ever, the ball must have gone 50 yards up and landed about five yards away from him!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 17, 2007, 04:53:55 PM
Cavan minor team-manager Jody Clarke has stepped down from the position after Cavan’s defeat by Down in the Ulster MFC preliminary round on Sunday, 13th of May.

The Shercock clubman handed in his resignation on Monday last, 24 hours after his side went under to the Mourne side on a scoreline of 1-10 to 2-5 in Kingspan/Breffni Park, Cavan.

Clarke resignation comes after two years at the helm of the county minor side. Last season he guided the Cavan side to a preliminary round win over Down – the reigning All-Ireland champions in Casement Park – but his side were defeated by eventual Ulster minor champions, Donegal in the next round at Brewster Park, Enniskillen after going into the game with high hopes of success.

Clarke said that he intended to bow out this season irrespective of how far Cavan progressed in the championship.

“We put a tremendous effort in preparing the team this season and I must put on record the commitment and dedication not alone of the squad of players, but also my management and back-up team. We had high hopes of doing well this season, but it just wasn’t to be,’’ added Clarke.

The former Shercock star forward made no excuses for their defeat last Sunday against Down. “We literally kicked ourselves out of the game – had 17 wides over the duration of the match – and that in itself tells its own story.’’

Interestingly, Cavan lost only two competitive games all season – in league and championship – and both by Down in Kingspan-Breffni Park. “You could say that Down had the ’edge on us’ although in both games we had enough chances and play to win the games’’.

Jody said despite the disappointment result last Sunday, he really enjoyed his stay as manager of the county minor side. “I met many sincere football people during my time in charge, and was very appreciative of the support I got not alone from my own family and club, but also the Cavan Youth Board.

“Hopefully, I have contributed something positive to the development of Cavan football in the future, and I take this opportunity to wish the players under my guidance over the past two seasons at minor level every success in their football careers in the future.

“I believe despite that defeat by Down on Sunday last there is a lot of potential in the present minor squad. Hopefully, they will continue to work at their game and always have a positive attitude. These young players are the future of Cavan football, and they should be given every encouragement in the future,’’ he concluded.

 
Read something i actually agreed with on Hoganstand just there,I think Mickie Graham should get the job for next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 17, 2007, 05:03:54 PM
Cavan minor football is in the grip of a psychological paralysis if you ask me. I'm no Freud now, but that's my tuppence worth.

Time and time again we're beaten between for the lack of what's between our two ears and not what's on the field in pound for pound playing terms. In the last five years alone I'd say we've been beaten by either an inferior or at worst equal team every time, getting caught late, lack of composure in front of the posts when the fat is in the fire, easy chances missed, mistakes made. And then we bemoan 'bad luck'. What a f**king cop out that is.

It needs a hugely respected figure to come in and lift the whole thing out of the morass it's in right now, otherwise we'll always struggle and will rely on alot of luck. The last two managers, with respect, wouldn't have had a hell of alot of gravitas in the dressing room, it was a case of 'more of the same' and the results followed suit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 17, 2007, 10:47:09 PM
f**k it Maniac I think you may have some fair points there. Now there was a bit of material to work on this year based on Virginia Vocational, the fact the Bailieborough gave them a closer run than anybody else in winning their All Ireland. The Cavan Gaels side that contested the Ulster Club final tournament last Xmas was supposed to be really good and gave a few lads to the side, so where did it go wrong.

Bringing on young Keating, who we were told had seriously busted his ankle in the Vocational Schools final of course gives a depressing sense of Deja vu (think John Tierney anybody). Whatever loss he would have been to the county team, you would imagine he would have been a much bigger loss to his school. He got injured early on in the final, instead of bottling it Virginia regrouped and won the thing well.

So there we have it, the material was there to make some sort of impression, preparation would appear to have failed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on May 17, 2007, 11:21:54 PM
Good points Anglo, completely agree

On the Keating issue, i was told by one of the players a few days before hand that he would definitely be coming on, and judging by his movement he was fine. Have to give the management credit here, they could have started the lad (should have in hindsight) but didnt chance it.

They had psychologists in and all, can't figure it out. You rightly mention the Virginia and Gaels - my theory:

Virginia only really had two SUPERB players this year, one was Keating and the other Conor Smith who had a stinker v Down. The rest of the Virginia crew were solid, committed types, gutsy and honest but not classy if you know what i mean

The Gaels had a couple of stars as well (M Dunne and D graham) and it appears they were both over hyped in the extreme. Niall Murray is a brilliant talent but he missed out injured, althought the lad that came in (Minagh) did a great job. Their other good players would be overage by now...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 18, 2007, 09:50:11 AM
From todays Indo, always new mcCabe was the "real" Cavan manager
Taking the 'credit' for Cavan
 

     Go  Friday May 18 2007


GREAT was the shock among Cavan supporters on Monday morning when they were informed that Donal Keogan had been replaced as manager of the county team.


Not content with producing a man-of-the-match performance in their drawn game against Down, veteran midfielder Dermot McCabe apparently staged a sensational overnight coup to overthrow Keoghan after the Breffni Park battle.

Well, that's according to one national newspaper anyway, whose front-page report credited the following quote "In years gone by we conceded two early goals and were five or 10 points down at half-time and lost by a big margin. So it is tremendous to come back from that and still be in the game" to the Cavan manager, one Dermot McCabe. Oops.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 18, 2007, 04:47:35 PM
They had psychologists in and all, can't figure it out...

Hold the front page, Cavan minors are now confounding even best medical and psychological practice!

Will it ever bloody end?

10 years ago, when you consider the set up in each county, the fact we'd just won an Ulster senior, finances available especially etc. if you'd been asked to pick the more likely winner of a minor All-Ireland in the next decade, Cavan or Roscommon, who in their right mind wouldn't have said Cavan? It's enough to give you a pain in your face.

I'm so sick to the back teeth of our minor and U21 flops I get physically angry and want to kick defenceless animals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 21, 2007, 12:03:46 PM
I was speaking to Jody about it and he said that they were all superb in training, kicking over good scores and not being wasteful. He said it was all just on the day. I suppose the pressure just got to a few of their heads.

Yep, and therein lies the problem. This sort of thing seems to happen to Cavan minor teams year after year and then we shrug our shoulders and go 'bad luck' or as you say acceptingly enough above, 'pressure got to them'. This just isn't good enough any more. Other sides and six-county ones in particular are generally much more confident and better prepared upstairs than the jittery chokers we produce, who undoubtedly always have talent to go further but beat themselves year on year. This isn't an accident. We're overlooking something in preparation that would help us break the cycle, there's something we're not doing right.

I know the minors are hyped every year too which doesn't help but we're not such a bad judge of footballers to perenially seduce ourselves into thinking that 15 suspect donkeys are world beaters every year - there has to be some substabnce to the hype, i.e. they're at the vert least quite decent teams if still some way short of the hype. So why are they still floundering so miserably every year?

For the record, Down managed to score 2-1 against Monaghan in the QF at Crossmaglen last night. Monaghan won 1-6 to 2-1. Puts it all in perspective a bit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2007, 12:44:48 PM
Heres a thought,
we have Under 14
Under 15
Under 16 and
Under 17 Development squads, all leading up to Minor level
Each team with different coaches every year they move up.
I think it would be better if one coaching team took a team at Under 14 all the way up to Under 17/Minor.
at least bring a bit of consistency in Training etc.I could be clutching at straws here though.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on May 21, 2007, 01:57:59 PM
Does anyone know what the plans would be now re the qualifiers? 7 weeks away.

Will there be any club championship played?

Does the county training stop for a few weeks to let the players back to the clubs?





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 21, 2007, 02:37:27 PM
There's no reason why two rounds of the senior championship shouldn't be played between now and the qualifiers but we don't have a good track record with these things.

There was only league matches played between league semi defeat to Roscommon and SFC match v Down I think. It's June, it's time to get the club championships underway at home. There's been alot in national media earlier this year about counties leaving their clubs idle to faciliate their county sides so let's see has the message filtered through to the head honchos in Cavan. I doubt it somehow but there's no reason why two rounds of the championships and one round of the senior league can't be played off now, that's three weekends out of six or seven available and would leave a fallow weekend ahead of the qualifiers to boot for resting up.

It'd keep the majority of club players happy and keep the county players sharp as well, we'd just have to live with whatever injuries if any accrue and get on with it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2007, 02:40:33 PM
Lads theres going to be no club Championship until July  ::) because of the wisdom of the county board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 21, 2007, 03:45:31 PM
Stupidity. By 7th July Cavan county team will have played three games in what, about 11 weeks? Madness that no SFC will have been played before then.

btw, qualifiers are set up to be run off on 7th, 14th and 21st of July...not getting the cart before the horse but if we win our first and second round game surely they'll mothball the championship again? Disgraceful way to treat the club players and it's only a matter of time before it blows up in their faces. county boards still think the only sporting choice open to young fellas is the GAA - maybe it was 20 years ago but not any more.

But sure a bit of foresight is too much to expect.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 21, 2007, 04:02:06 PM
yeah it's not right, it's not as if the county team are any good.  A few club games might actually improve them a bit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2007, 04:06:20 PM
3 well 4 (but one is injured) members of our panel are going to the US in June,to play ball in Boston for the whole summer.
Id have my doubts if some of them would have went if the Championships were in full swing in May and June,Like they are in places like Kerry,Derry,Meath etc.
People nowadays are not going to wait around the entire Summer just to play a few games in Late July, and i cant blame them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 21, 2007, 04:11:04 PM
Who's heading off?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2007, 04:16:27 PM
Sean McCormack would be main one you would know of C4ever,and will be a huge miss.

others are two members of our fairly good reserve team.

Fergal McGoldrick and
Paul Prior.

Best of luck to them,Might aswell enjoy themselves when they are in college and can afford to go away.
im sure we arent the only ones who will be hit by the summer trips to US/Oz/UK etc.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 21, 2007, 04:22:59 PM
Well best of luck to them, it's not good for your club but the way things are going they could be back for quater-finals of championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 21, 2007, 05:05:02 PM
Surely the county board have to reconsider the up coming fixtures and try to accomodate some championship fixtures between now and the qualifiers. Because if they don't, it would be an absolute joke. What are we supposed to do between now and then? Twiddle our thumbs?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2007, 08:21:15 PM
CC1
Then you would have clubs complaining about changing the fixture list,guys missing games because of holidays,booked around the original schedule
Its a complete balls up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 22, 2007, 09:55:10 AM
Good to see the Cavan players out celebrating yesterday management and all , i wonder what grimley thinks of that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 22, 2007, 11:27:58 AM
I wouldn't begrudge them a few pints to be honest, it's seven weeks to the next game and I'm sure they've been hard at it for the last few months.

As long as they weren't out slapping themselves on the back for 'only' losing by four points and securing a replay the first day...now that would be worrying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 22, 2007, 12:52:31 PM
It was more than a few and i know the next game is ages away but if Armagh are bet next sunday will Joe Kernan bring all the lads out drinking monday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on May 22, 2007, 03:08:46 PM
3 well 4 (but one is injured) members of our panel are going to the US in June,to play ball in Boston for the whole summer.

I presume this would be to play with the Wolfe Tones club,who are currently managed by a former legendary haiseman, would this be right?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 22, 2007, 03:26:16 PM
Yep the Wolfe Tones club ,i think they are managed by well known Ballyhaise Native Gerry Prior this year.
Legendary Haiseman,Steve Duggan you're thinking of perhaps? not sure if hes involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 22, 2007, 10:43:39 PM
I wouldn't begrudge them a few pints to be honest, it's seven weeks to the next game and I'm sure they've been hard at it for the last few months.

Was that a slightly Freudian slip Maniac? The real quality of the management team and this group of players will be discovered when we line up for the first game in the qualifiers so lets keep our powder reasonably dry until then. Members of the management team would be giving plenty of hostages to fortune if they are getting into serious socialising with players if that is what it is, particularly given the state of unfitness of some of the blokes that started in the first game. Did McHugh have much of a habit of actively socialising with players as in having a few pints?

If we win a few in the qualifiers all will be sweet, otherwise the bitching will start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 23, 2007, 09:51:20 AM
Was that a slightly Freudian slip Maniac?

 ;D

McHugh knew when to let lads off the leash at the same time though and if you're going to do it now is the time. My point is that hopefully the lads were told by management to go and have a few drinks seeing as there's effectively two months to go to the next game, as opposed to continuing the monastic existence whereupon they'd probably sneak off and have a few regardless and possibly over do it, and more than once. As long as management have a handle on it I wouldn't begrudge them provided things settle down again very quickly and they get focused on what could potentialy be a very sticky qualifier match against decent oppostion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 25, 2007, 08:33:03 AM
Well lads this thread has gone dead last few days.   :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 25, 2007, 09:05:16 AM
Personally, I am depressed by the last two matches. I think we are worse than I thought we were, perhaps I was over optomistic about our overall standing in the GAA world. We were beaten well in the end by an aveage Down team (in both games if we are honest). There are a lot of big guns in the back door this yr with Div 4 teams out of the running so chances are we will get decent opposition. I can't see us going too far in the backdoor, maybe one game if we get a good home draw.

We still have the same problems we had through the league.

- No Full Back
- No Ctr Back (or No gaynor)
- One midfielder who can't run with no support
- No plan B at FF (ie. a big target man)

Add to that the following new problems...

- A significant drop in work ethic, especially in the forwards
- The dramatic slump in form of Pierson and Mckeever.
- Slow and poor decision making on the line to turn the matches.

Saying that one win in the Qualifiers could get some momentum into the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 25, 2007, 09:10:40 AM
Yeah depressing is the word alright.  What ur saying myles is that there is nothing up the middle of the pitch which should be the strongest line (bar mc cabe who has stopped things being more embarrsing) .   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 25, 2007, 10:06:57 AM
Myles, you might add to the litany the fact that we are still depedning on some of the 97 lads who, if the truth be known, are probably at least a year past their date (Jason and Larry). The fact that we are still depending on McCabe at midfield is an absolutely major worry as well. In the middle of all this Gaynor remains banished to the wastelands. Some lads will drop off the panel over the next seven weeks I would be pretty sure so I expect the selectors will be out watching club games with the object of bringing in some backup. If you were being very mean spirited you would say that fitness should not be a major factor since some guys who lined out the first day were clearly not fit for 70 minutes of championship football, as for disciplinary records-well if you want to be picky take a look at the half back line that started last Sunday and tell me something they share in common.

Anyway-positives-Meath, Waterford and Wickla still standing after last Sunday so the division 2b setup may not have been so bad. The management team have tried some new players to bring a bit of size to things (Crowe, Cunningham, Thomas, Mulvey etc.) and have been a bit un-lucky with un-timely injuries/suspensions to some of those lads. If we can win one game in the qualifiers and not get hockeyed next time out I won't be too un-happy.

On a slightly positive longer term note look at the Cavan Echo on-line, our under 16's are finally being pulled out of Manning Cup and Gerry Reilly Tournaments to go and compete with the Nordies. Long overdue but good to see as far as I am concerned.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 25, 2007, 12:13:25 PM
You could get depressed alright but funnily enough I don't feel too bad overall. I'm happy we've a bit of battling in the side now and firmly believe if Lyng had stayed on the field we would have beaten Down. After that, who knows what might have been but there's little point speculating. I think we'll get better under Grimley.

Minor collapse is the most depressing thing.

Promotion, beat Down and run in the qualifiers was all we wanted at start of the year and although slightly modified now obviously, I think we're still on course a for a reasonable year considering where we were starting out from. We have to realise that we're a medium-sized county population wise with virtually no relevant acheivements at underage. It can get better but we'll have to be patient and have faith that grimley over time can effect real change.

The worrying thing is of course that when Dermot does eventually finish up along with the rest of the '97 fold, will we have enough waiting to come in and replace them? IMO, Jason and Larry should be at most subs next year (this year too probably) if that at all so again this summer we're looking to draft another 4 potential first teamers. The problem positions simply have to be addressed in summer and then we simply have to hold on in Division 2 to go into championship 2008 with some greater degree of solidity and a bit of hope of progressing.

We still have good or likely to improve performers at goalkeeper, Hannon, Gunner, Flanagan, Fannin, Sean Brady, Jelly, Pierson, but the problem positions are just that...problems.

I don't see enough club football to have anuy idea who we could draft in either for qualifiers or ahead of next campaign?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 25, 2007, 12:43:48 PM
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We still have good or likely to improve performers at goalkeeper, Hannon, Gunner, Flanagan, Fannin, Sean Brady, Jelly, Pierson

I agree. It doesn't say much for the management though that of our seven "best" outfield players listed, three didn't start the replay, and one was hauled off after 20 minutes.

I think you're forgetting Cullivan from that list, and don't forget McKeever is still briliiant, just in bad form. Mickey Lyng is another - unbelievable talent who will definitely get back to his best when he gets more football under his belt.

From club football, it's hard to know really. Finbar Reilly for the frees?!

Cian McDermott is 21/22, midfield for Ballinagh, twice as good as Thomas in my opinion...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 25, 2007, 01:03:01 PM
Yep those are of course other names to include although I think Cullivan needs more time to grow into a senior role, I think he's been pushed too far already and depended on way too early in his career.

Shame that none on the list are outstanding candidates for the 'problem' and key positions, except for Lyng at no.11 we struggle to fill 3, 6, 9, 14. Hopefully the summer will throw up a few new faces, we desperately need them.

Finbar Reilly had a few good games for Cavan alright but wasn't a flawless free taker. Probably better than what we have there at the moment though, although curiously for a Lacken man, Reilly seemed to lack a bit of guts in the 50/50 tackles for me. Lots of speed though, should be in the squad but he did himself no favours spitting the dummy last year, the hare-brained selection policy of the previous manager notwithstanding.

We should still be positive. We're only a few months and one championship tie into what will hopefully be a planned, considered and ultimately successful rebuilding programme. Time to stop thinking about winning anything in short term and build for championship 2009 as a target IMHO.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 25, 2007, 03:03:35 PM
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although curiously for a Lacken man, Reilly seemed to lack a bit of guts in the 50/50 tackles for me

Whoa, whoa, whoa - you're dead wrong here. Poser he may be, but he's never pulled out of a tackle when i've seen him. Saw him in a few league games for Lacken and he's a hardy bit of stuff.

I agree by the way that he burnt his bridges - just threw it out there for a response!

If you were picking a couple who "pull out" on the Cavan panel, a couple more names would come to mind, such as our import from Fermanagh and the Drung duo (this may not be popular but James is a bit yellow, gets away with it but he'll be caught I fear).

Paul Brady, Sean Brady, Larry, McCabe, Flanagan would be the hardiest in my opinion.Jason went into a 40-60 against Down and BURST a fella fairly!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 25, 2007, 03:11:22 PM
right so we get rid of miller and who exactly is going to go into goals?

i suppose ud put finbar reilly in he mightn't b a  goal keeper but he's not yellow
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 25, 2007, 03:18:46 PM
I wouldn't get rid of him, he's a brilliant shot stopper, magnificent under a high ball and outstanding kickout.

However, if there's a 50/50 ball bouncing between him and a forward he tends to hang on his line too long or take "short steps". You never see him cleaning "man, ball and all" - in the way that hearty, McVeigh etc can -  do you?

Nothing personal whatsoever, this is just something I've noticed. As far back as 2004 against Mayo he pulled out of a ball and I think it was Forde or someone who managed to get abck and clear off the line, which is something that happens an awful lot.

Still, the other aspects of his game are good enough to make him outstanding.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 25, 2007, 03:32:14 PM
i actullay read ur orignial post wrong and would agree with all u say  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on May 25, 2007, 04:27:24 PM
Whats happened kingscourt this year, 1 win and 4 defeats? Bad form so far?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 25, 2007, 04:41:46 PM
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although curiously for a Lacken man, Reilly seemed to lack a bit of guts in the 50/50 tackles for me

Whoa, whoa, whoa - you're dead wrong here. Poser he may be, but he's never pulled out of a tackle when i've seen him. Saw him in a few league games for Lacken and he's a hardy bit of stuff.

Yeah, but then again even Ronan Carolan used to throw his weight about for Cuchulainns and then be meek as a lamb with the county. I clearly recall Reilly slowing the pace when going into a few 50/50s when playing for Cavan in recent years, and on one occasion, Coleman shouting him out and clenching his fist and telling him to quit the pussy-footing about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 25, 2007, 05:51:46 PM
Fair enough, I'll take your word for it. Didn't ever notice it myself in Reilly, but I can well imagine Coleman wouldnt be long spotting it if one of the Cavan players pulled out...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 25, 2007, 05:55:05 PM
Speaking of Cavan Echo, here's an interesting "The Bottom Line" column this week

http://www.cavanecho.com/pdf/pages/cav028.pdf
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 25, 2007, 06:40:54 PM
Davitt Man

Kingscourt have been without a fair few key men for most of the games,

forwards especially

Joe McMahon
Darragh Gunne
Alan Clarke to name a few.
There 3 best forwards.

some players in my opinion who the management should be looking at,over the next few weeks with a few of seeing if they would add to the squad

Thomas Wakely(Kingscourt)
Colm Sheridan (Lacken)
Declan Gaffney(Crosserlough)
Declan McCabe (Crosserlough)
Colm Hannon(Drumgoon)
James Kiernan(Ballymachugh)
Enda Mulvey(Castlerahan)
Paddy Gumley(Redhills)
Peter Monaghan(Ramor Utd)
Robbie Prior(Swanlinbar)-dont know if hed be interested though
Damien McInerney,Cian McDermott,Adrian maguire(Ballinagh)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on May 25, 2007, 10:17:18 PM
BH Man.  Adrian Maguire Ballinagh is about 34/35 years of age.   Its the Masters team he'd be looking at.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 26, 2007, 02:03:47 PM
Colm Hannon...he was on the squad before and seemed reasonable enough if I recall. Did he not disappear due to college committments or could he just not cut the mustard?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 26, 2007, 02:08:58 PM
disappeared to America Maniac,
He could definetely cut the mustard alright,Hes a very good player,one of the few who looked promising under Mattie Kerrigan.and at 6'1 and good under the high ball could have been a possibility at Full Back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 26, 2007, 03:23:50 PM
Wasn't Colm Hannon back playing with Drumgoon lately? And how about that link the Cavan Echo, semi-critical analysis from a newspaper source within the county. Whatever next? Long overdue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 26, 2007, 04:11:16 PM
Indeed ac
The Echo is a breath of fresh air to the GAA scene in the county.
Especially like the team of the week part,probably because yours truely has been named on it once.  ;)
anyway,i wish you lads a good weekend,
Have a game against Finbar Reily,Trevor Crowe and co at 6 this evening in Ballyhaise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 27, 2007, 09:37:24 AM
It's more to do with a difference in attitude rather than resources I'd say. Fair play, I think the Echo is great for the local scene.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 27, 2007, 11:02:07 AM
Lacken won Division One and Four games against us last night,Other than that,dont want to talk about it    :-[
dont know how any other games went.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 28, 2007, 09:08:45 AM
We played Redhills at the weekend there. I have to say they have a very impressive team, especially the young corner forwards. Some of their players may be a bit light, but they certainly have a very good team and will be real contenders for the intermediate title.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 28, 2007, 01:09:53 PM
CC1
i know Redhills are going well,but i think the intermediate is Ballinaghs this year.

id have expected ourselves to be in the running,But things arent going according to plan at the moment.
Perhaps Drumlane and Drumgoon will also be in the running.

Heard there was a punch up in the Gaels/Mullahoran game yet again,they have been at it for the past 3 years in league games.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 29, 2007, 08:11:40 AM
CC1
i know Redhills are going well,but i think the intermediate is Ballinaghs this year.


On paper they would be expected to win but we all know what happens them, are Drumgoon intermediate or senior this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 29, 2007, 11:46:01 AM
Drumgoon have been relegated to intermediate after their disasterous year last year.
They will give it a right go aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 29, 2007, 03:48:20 PM
i know theres a fair few exiles down the country on here,so heres the league tables.

TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Castlerahan 6 4 1 1 9
Cavan Gaels 5 4 0 1 9
Crosserlough 5 4 0 1 9
Ballinagh 5 3 1 1 7
Gowna 5 3 1 1 7
Denn 5 3 2 0 6
Cuchullains 6 3 3 0 6
Belturbet 6 2 4 0 4
Drumalee 5 2 3 0 4
Lacken 5 2 3 0 4
Mullahoran 6 2 4 0 4
Ballyhaise 6 1 4 1 3
Drumlane 5 1 4 0 2
Kingscourt 6 1 5 0 2

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Drumgoon 6 5 1 0 10
Redhills 5 5 0 0 10
Knockbride 5 3 0 2 8
Ramor United 6 3 1 2 8
Drung 6 3 2 1 7
Cootehill 6 3 3 0 6
Lavey 5 3 2 0 6
Shercock 6 2 2 2 6
Killinkere 6 2 4 0 4
Killygarry 4 2 2 0 4
Laragh United 5 1 3 1 3
Bailieboro 6 1 5 0 2
Ballymachugh 5 0 4 1 1
Swanlinbar 5 0 4 1 1



Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Cornafean 6 5 1 0 10
Butlersbridge 5 3 1 1 7
Shannon Gaels 6 3 2 1 7
Cavan Gaels 4 3 1 0 6
Kill 5 3 2 0 6
Killeshandra 6 3 3 0 6
Muntirconnacht 6 3 3 0 6
Corlough 5 2 3 0 4
Kildallan 5 2 3 0 4
Templeport 6 2 4 0 4
Arva 4 1 2 1 3
Maghera 5 1 3 1 3
Mountnugent 5 1 4 0 2

Safety Solutions A.C.F.L. Division 4

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Crosserlough 6 5 1 0 10
Gowna 6 4 1 1 9
Mullahoran 5 4 0 1 9
Ballinagh 6 4 2 0 8
Denn 6 2 1 1 7
Drumalee 6 3 3 0 6
Kingscourt 6 3 4 0 6
Belturbet 5 3 2 0 6
Drumlane 6 2 3 1 5
Castlerahan 6 2 4 0 4
Lacken 6 2 4 0 4
Ballyhaise 6 1 4 1 3
Cuchullains 6 1 5 0 2
Cavan Gaels 4 0 3 1 1



Martin McCabe Auctineer A.C.F.L. Division 5

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Bailieboro 6 6 0 0 12
Killygarry 5 5 0 0 10
Killinkere 6 4 1 1 9
Ramor United 4 3 0 1 7
Shercock 5 3 1 1 7
Drung 6 3 3 0 6
Drumgoon 5 1 2 2 4
Laragh United 5 1 3 1 3
Lavey 4 1 2 1 3
Cootehill 5 1 4 0 2
Redhills 6 1 5 0 2
Knockbride 4 0 3 1 1
Ballymachugh 5 0 5 0 0

John Brady Insurances A.C.F.L. Division 6

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Kildallan 6 6 0 0 12
Arva 5 5 0 0 10
Cornafean 6 4 2 0 8
Killeshandra 6 4 2 0 8
Killygarry 6 3 1 2 8
Butlersbridge 6 3 3 0 6
Templeport 6 3 3 0 6
Shannon Gaels 6 2 3 1 5
Kill 4 2 2 0 4
Mountnugent 4 2 2 0 4
Corlough 5 1 4 0 2
Maghera 6 1 5 0 2
Muntirconnacht 6 1 5 0 2
Killinkere 6 0 5 1 1

It will be interesting next year Two more Senior Club Reserves will be Promoted to division 3 and Junior clubs relegated to Division 4 where they will be playing Reserve teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 29, 2007, 03:57:16 PM
Its about time it was done !!!!!!  It might actually help football in the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 01, 2007, 01:18:23 PM
Result from Last night

Drumalee 2-10 Ballyhaise 0-12 or it could be 0-13 im not sure.

anyway Drumalee win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on June 01, 2007, 02:34:25 PM
Ballyhaiseman,
Whats the story on Cullivan heard there was another no show last night,third game this year, is this orders from county management or what?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 01, 2007, 03:36:59 PM
couldnt have been county orders shotstopper,
Mickey Brennan and Enda McCormick both members of the county panel were playing for Drumalee.
I for one have no idea why he wasnt there or at the Lacken game,The other lads dont seem to know either.

Brennan was outstanding last night by the way from midfield,
Kicked over 4 from play and  and a couple of huge frees from long distance along with setting up both goals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 02, 2007, 02:51:51 PM
We had a decent result last night. Beat Cootehill 1-15 to 0-11. Liam Og Reilly having an absolute blinder of a game. I'll be astonished if this lad doesn't make the county panel at some stage. One of the best man markers I have seen at club level. Seriously quick, strong and not afraid of going in for a tackle. He is still under 21 too. Held Darragh Gaffney scoreless from play in the U21 final last year, held Junior player of the year John McCabe scoreless in the semi finals last year and held Colm Smith scoreless from play last night. How Keoghan didn't even have him on his U21 panel this year is beyond me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on June 02, 2007, 03:10:56 PM
Belturbet hammered Drumlane 2-8 to 0-4

B'nagh beat Lacken 2-5 to 0-7

Any other results?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on June 03, 2007, 09:00:54 PM
Crosserlough 2-5 Cuchullians 0-6
Cavan Gaels beat Gowna by 10
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2007, 02:04:02 PM
welcome to the board Maverick

Some beating the Gaels gave Gowna

Kingscourt 0-11 Mullahoran 3-15

Crosserlough are on a hell of a run.
If they can keep this going for the championship,i think they are the only team that could beat the Gaels this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 05, 2007, 11:43:47 AM
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Cavan Gaels 6 5 0 1 11
Crosserlough 6 5 0 1 11
Ballinagh 6 4 1 1 9
Castlerahan 7 4 2 1 9
Denn 6 4 2 0 8
Gowna 6 3 2 1 7
Belturbet 7 3 4 0 6
Cuchullains 7 3 4 0 6
Drumalee 6 3 3 0 6
Mullahoran 7 3 4 0 6
Lacken 6 2 4 0 4
Ballyhaise 7 1 5 1 3
Drumlane 6 1 5 0 2
Kingscourt 7 1 6 0 2

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Drumgoon 7 6 1 0 12
Knockbride 6 4 0 2 10
Ramor United 7 4 1 2 10
Redhills 6 5 1 0 10
Shercock 7 3 2 2 8
Drung 7 3 3 1 7
Lavey 6 3 2 1 7
Cootehill 7 3 4 0 6
Killygarry 5 3 2 0 6
Killinkere 7 2 5 0 4
Bailieboro 7 1 5 1 3
Ballymachugh 6 1 4 1 3
Laragh United 6 1 4 1 3
Swanlinbar 6 0 5 1 1



Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Cornafean 7 5 1 1 11
Shannon Gaels 7 4 2 1 9
Cavan Gaels 5 4 1 0 8
Killeshandra 7 4 3 0 8
Butlersbridge 5 3 1 1 7
Kildallan 6 3 3 0 6
Kill 6 3 3 0 6
Muntirconnacht 7 3 4 0 6
Corlough 6 2 3 1 5
Mountnugent 6 2 4 0 4
Templeport 7 2 5 0 4
Arva 5 1 3 1 3
Maghera 6 1 4 1 3

Safety Solutions A.C.F.L. Division 4

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Crosserlough 7 6 1 0 12
Gowna 6 4 1 1 9
Mullahoran 5 4 0 1 9
Ballinagh 6 4 2 0 8
Denn 7 3 3 1 7
Castlerahan 7 3 4 0 6
Drumalee 6 3 3 0 6
Kingscourt 6 3 3 0 6
Belturbet 5 3 2 0 6
Drumlane 6 2 3 1 5
Lacken 6 2 4 0 4
Ballyhaise 6 1 4 1 3
Cuchullains 7 1 6 0 2
Cavan Gaels 4 0 3 1 1



Martin McCabe Auctineer A.C.F.L. Division 5

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Bailieboro 6 6 0 0 12
Killygarry 6 6 0 0 12
Killinkere 6 4 1 1 9
Ramor United 4 3 0 1 7
Shercock 5 3 1 1 7
Drung 6 3 3 0 6
Drumgoon 5 1 2 2 4
Laragh United 6 1 4 1 3
Lavey 4 1 2 1 3
Cootehill 5 1 4 0 2
Redhills 6 1 5 0 2
Knockbride 4 0 3 1 1
Ballymachugh 5 0 5 0 0

John Brady Insurances A.C.F.L. Division 6

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Kildallan 7 7 0 0 14
Arva 5 5 0 0 10
Cornafean 6 4 2 0 8
Killeshandra 6 4 2 0 8
Killygarry 6 3 1 2 8
Butlersbridge 6 3 3 0 6
Templeport 6 3 3 0 6
Shannon Gaels 6 2 3 1 5
Kill 5 2 3 0 4
Mountnugent 4 2 2 0 4
Corlough 5 1 4 0 2
Maghera 6 1 5 0 2
Muntirconnacht 6 1 5 0 2
Killinkere 6 0 5 1 1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on June 05, 2007, 05:54:05 PM
No not really its just the way I play. Am a bit of a maverick on the field. So anyone got anymore news from the weekends football? Is it only postponed games on this weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 05, 2007, 06:18:08 PM
fixtures
Friday, 08th June 2007 @ 8pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1
Lacken V Crosserlough
Referee: Brian Crowe

Saturday, 09th June 2007 @ 6.00pm
Safety Solutions A.C.F.L. Division 4
Cavan Gaels V Belturbet
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Drumalee V Ballyhaise
Referee: Martin Brady - Ballinagh
Kingscourt V Mullahoran
Referee: Patrick Brady

Saturday, 09th June 2007 @ 8pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1
Cavan Gaels V Denn
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Ballinagh V Gowna
Referee: Joe McQuillan
Drumalee V Drumlane
Referee: Martin Brady – Ballinagh

Saturday, 09th June 2007 @ 6.30pm
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3
Arva V Mountnugent
Referee: Oliver O’Reilly

Saturday, 09th June 2007 @ 8pm
John Brady Insurances Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 6
Arva V Mountnugent
Referee: Oliver O’Reilly
Munterconnacht V Killygarry
Referee: Felim O’Reilly


Sunday, 10th June 2007 @ 2pm
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2
Lavey V Laragh
Referee: Martin Sexton
Ballymachugh V Knockbride
Referee: Packie Smith

Sunday, 10th June 2007 @ 4.30pm
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2
Killygarry V Swanlinbar
Referee: Sean Smith

Sunday, 10th June 2007 @ 3.30pm
Martin McCabe Auctioneer A.C.F.L. Division 5
Lavey V Laragh
Referee: Martin Sexton
Ballymachugh V Knockbride
Referee: Packie Smith
Ramor V Cootehill
Referee: Raymond Kelly

Sunday, 10th June 2007 @ 2pm
John Brady Insurances Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 6
Corlough V Kill
Referee: Ciaran McGovern
Killinkere V Butlersbridge
Referee: Tony McDonald

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 05, 2007, 11:45:41 PM
Fair play CC1.

To be fair to the Echo, at least they're stirring some debate and writing some opinion stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 06, 2007, 05:21:07 PM
Anyone have any views on the debate thats on the Hoganstand site about Eddie Reilly ?  Well it kinda a debate there saying the same things to each other last few days.

I think he isn't county standard but is a good club player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 07, 2007, 11:22:45 PM
Decent shout CC1. I was never overly impressed by Eddie any time I saw him for club or county - he seems quite limited in alot of the aspects of the game - but the man seems to be in the form of his life and there's bound to be at least one passenger on the panel of 30 that could make way and give him another chance ahead of the qualifier, with 4 weeks to go to to it there's time to bed him back in. If he doesn't convert club form to county then maybe we could say for sure he's a non runner in longer term but I guess we can ill afford to ignore a player with physical presence who appears to be doing well.

Maybe try him in a challenge or something ahead of the qualifiers?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 08, 2007, 07:59:23 AM
Eddie Reilly is obviously good enough for the cavan team nevermind the squad. He is after all a forward and cavan are not exactly blessed with forward talent but the fact of the matter is he obviously opted out of the county set-up or else had a falling out with the management, so stop going on about him, if he wanted to play for his county then he could if he changed his attitude towards the management!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 08, 2007, 08:14:05 AM
Eddie Reilly is obviously good enough for the cavan team nevermind the squad. He is after all a forward and cavan are not exactly blessed with forward talent but the fact of the matter is he obviously opted out of the county set-up or else had a falling out with the management, so stop going on about him, if he wanted to play for his county then he could if he changed his attitude towards the management!!

This is a discussion board so we can talk about whoever we want and he has only been mention by 3-4 posters anyway so i won't say anyone is going on about him.  In my opinion he wasn't good enough last year and i can't see how he would be good enough this year even if he is showing good form at club level.  He is greedy aswell shooting form impossible angles and i think we have enough of them there at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 08, 2007, 08:17:46 AM
Eddie Reilly is obviously good enough for the cavan team nevermind the squad. He is after all a forward and cavan are not exactly blessed with forward talent but the fact of the matter is he obviously opted out of the county set-up or else had a falling out with the management, so stop going on about him, if he wanted to play for his county then he could if he changed his attitude towards the management!!

This is a discussion board so we can talk about whoever we want and he has only been mention by 3-4 posters anyway so i won't say anyone is going on about him.  In my opinion he wasn't good enough last year and i can't see how he would be good enough this year even if he is showing good form at club level.  He is greedy aswell shooting form impossible angles and i think we have enough of them there at the moment.

Larry Reilly!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 08, 2007, 02:50:20 PM
Have to say I was delighted to see Eddie get on the panel last year but by the end of the season I was totally convinced that he isn't county material. Against Kildare he was like a headless chicken jumping on top of fellas to get at the ball and shooting widly, he just has less composure at this level than the other forward options at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 08, 2007, 03:09:37 PM
Yeah I saw him in a few other games where he was acting the action man superhero and it wasn't quite coming off, but we've nothing to lose by giving him another run in a challenge.

If he turns out to be no good, then so be it, but his form warrants another look I reckon.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2007, 03:53:59 PM
The Thing is could Eddie have been any worse than Some of the forwards such as Jason,Pierson etc the last day?
His strengths is his run making and effort and physique,His shooting can be erratic though and his decision making is poor.
i believe he should be brought back and given another chance...Even as an impact sub,he could create something out nothing for you.
i seen the debate on Hoganstand.

There are other forwards that deserve a chance aswell though

Philip Smith(Kingscourt)
Barry Corrigan(Drumlane)
Colm Sheridan(Lacken)
Andy Coleman(Baileborough)
Enda Mulvey(Castlerahan)
and dare i say Mickie Graham who scored 0-4 from play against Gowna for the Gaels.


OffTopic
C4Ever
what ever happened to Niall O Rourke? i seen his name mentioned on hoganstand he was destined to be a county star,was it injuries or lack of appetite for the game? hes seemed to have disappeared.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on June 08, 2007, 04:32:10 PM
Re Eddie Reilly.  I don't think he was dropped from the panel.  I heard it was a case of him not turning up.
I am open to correction on this though.
 
Anyone any info on how training has been going since the Down match. 
Has there been any departures/arrivals?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2007, 04:41:27 PM
I havent heard a word to be honest Blue06,
All very low key.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 11, 2007, 10:34:57 AM
Ballyhaiseman , looks like he has lost all interest in the game or is just afraid of getting hurt again.  He is some loss to us as he was a real match winner ,would love to see him back but after been out for so long he could never be the same again
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 11, 2007, 10:38:31 AM
I heard McCabe and Larry have quit but id say if it was true there would be more talk about it.  I also heard from a reliable source that Keoghan is going to quit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 11, 2007, 12:22:09 PM
Jasus. That's a bit surprising if it's true, it looked as if the majority of players were giving him the effort so what might be pushing him to quit?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 11, 2007, 12:28:19 PM
Well from what im told he is putting an awful lot of time into it and all he is getting is abuse at the weekends in the imperial.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 11, 2007, 01:12:32 PM
Cripes. We could be back to square one in July then so. Hope it's not true we could do with the stability if nothing else. I'd be surprised if Keogan let that sort of nonsense get to him, can't see it happening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on June 11, 2007, 02:12:06 PM
Well from what im told he is putting an awful lot of time into it and all he is getting is abuse at the weekends in the imperial.

Makes a change, it's normally him thats giving the abuse.


On the subject of Eddie Reilly, well if Mulvey can get a place on the team, then surely Eddie or any other half decent player should be given a chance.As for forwards I'm surprised no one has mentioned Gaffney from Drumalee,one of the top scorers in the club game for the last few years,surely worth a go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2007, 02:49:41 PM
Jasus. That's a bit surprising if it's true, it looked as if the majority of players were giving him the effort so what might be pushing him to quit?

Listen lads. Grimley is the manager, Keoghan is just a clown hanging around the fringes. I personally don't know how anyone could respect him and if he goes it will be all the better if Grimley can be convinced to stay on his own.

On Eddie Reilly, he should be given a go. He might be limited but he is still one of the best club players in Cavan and Guarunteed will have more impact than the likes of mackey. Unfortunately, it is too late this year for Eddie and Gaynor and I believe that if keoghan leaves it will be down to pressure for the way he handled their cases, especially Gaynor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 11, 2007, 04:07:48 PM
Have McCabe and Larry quit? or are these just rumours?

Heard Cavan Gaels hammered Denn 1-20 to 0-07

Gowna beat Ballinagh by a few

Drumalee 6-10 Drumlane 1-09 i think  :o 6 goals,jaysus
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 11, 2007, 06:33:45 PM
Didn't hear anything about McCabe and Larry myself but I did hear that only 16 turned up for training last week. Worrying times indeed.

Lost to Gowna at the weekend by 4. They were far superior on the night and had just too much power for our depleted side (playing just 7 out of the 18 players involved in last years intermediate final). Probably lucky that the margin was only four in the end. McCabe lorded midfield.

Joe McQuillan was refereeing and found him very poor. Apparently he's got the Dublin-Meath replay BTW.

Drumalee 6-10 Drumlane 1-09 i think  :o 6 goals,jaysus

There was only one point between the two at half-time and then the floodgates opened and Drumalee bagged three goals in five minutes. Starting to look fairly ominous for Drumlane.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 11, 2007, 08:30:10 PM
i can believe that about the poor attendance alright Homer.Was told today of how two key members of the team/panel(not going to name names) were seen drinking all day Last Sunday Week in the new Radisson SAS Hotel.Is there no Drinks ban?

suprised you lads lost to Gowna.
You were flying up until the C'Lough game and thats seemed top have knocked the stuffing out of yous at least temporarily.
Lets hope it stays that way until after we play yous in Ballinagh in a few weeks time  ;)

Drumlane and Kingscourt have to play yet. whoever loses that is a certainty to get relegated.
Our position isnt looking too great either.
we have to pick up 2 wins from next two games against Denn and Castlerahan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 11, 2007, 11:37:24 PM
Ballymachugh are a tough doggid side with a couple of good players,James Kiernan etc,
But jaysus you would expect Knockbride to be beating them.

i was suprised at Killygarry getting relegated in the first place,seen them a fair bit in league and championship last year and i thought they were good.

We have Swad in the first round of IFC,they arent going well,but i expect them to be very tough .

Lavey will cause a shock or two in the IFC, especially if Jordan and Maguire are fit,but they just dont have the allround strength to challenge.

Laragh nearly upset Drumalee last year,but seem to have gone back.


Id be expecting Your crowd to be there or thereabouts along with Buttlersbridge for the JFC, CC1
Its about time you joined the Intermediate ranks  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 12, 2007, 12:24:46 PM
Very sad to hear of the death of Eamonn Coleman. It puts the whole football thing in perspective I suppose. Rest in peace Eamonn.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 12, 2007, 01:47:08 PM
Intersting article for Cavan supporters


http://www.cavanecho.com/pdf/pages/cav028.pdf


Any word on any new additions to the panel lately? Hear Mccabe had a monstrous match last weekend
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2007, 01:57:17 PM
interesting and well written article HM.

the latest Post on Hoganstand,is one i agree with,

The Giving of the Minor Job to either Niall Lynch and /or Mickie Graham and give them 3  or 4 years at it, quit this chopping and changing after 2 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on June 12, 2007, 02:22:37 PM
I agree, Mickey Graham has a decent record so far with Bridge and Drumalee...

Niall Lynch has a super record with Virginia too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 12, 2007, 02:59:05 PM
I agree with the shouts for a four-year tenure in charge of the minors. It makes sense. The minor job has been treated like a revolving chair in recent years and if Graham got it and took it, it'd be a decent line of continuity through from U16 or under, and on into minor and perhaps into U21.

IMHO, the underage grades are practically all that matters in Cavan football for the next five years. We have alot of our top performers about to shuffle off the stage and althought there's a sprinkling of decent players of a younger vintage there behind them, in reality I think we could be looking at more lean years at senior. If the present, younger senior players played on for a few more years and became more seasoned, in four years or so we could have a good crop from the underage teams to come through and fuse into a decent blend.

The article in Echo is absolutely spot on the button too, it's what I've been saying for years. Whatever about finding our own Crusheen up near Swanlinbar or somewhere, addressing our dreadful losers and chokers mentality at underage is absolutely fundamental if we're to go anywhere at senior in next five years, because that mentality is carried into seniors by players who are probably promoted to senior too early as well. Oh what a win against Down minors a few years ago and a place in the Ulster final might have done for the county in general!

From what I can gather, Graham has done well in any job he's taken so far and has a good record with underage sides in the county. He might carry a bit more clout with present teenagers as well having been a decent forward in recent times, and still at club, that the young fellas will remember and look up to.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 12, 2007, 03:06:39 PM
Definatlely shud be lynch or graham
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2007, 03:28:20 PM
according to some highly informed individual on the inferior GAA site Messageboard.
Jelly
Gunner
and Martin Cahill have either f**ked off to the US or are planning to in the immediate future.  :D
i Highly doubt thats true
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 12, 2007, 03:44:58 PM
Where was that? On hoganchimps.com? Sent in by eddie the egg? Pah!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 12, 2007, 05:06:19 PM
Shit lads stop laughing

http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=78645 (http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=78645)

Brady and Johnston accepts Chicago call

Cavan footballer and world handball champion, Paul Brady along with Seanie Johnston, have dramatically pulled out of Donal Keogan’s side just weeks before the county begin their assault on the All-Ireland qualifiers.

Brady, along with fellow Cavan player, Seanie Johnson, will travel to Chicago later in the week where the pair will line out with the St Brendan’s club for the remainder of the championship season.

Brady, a two-time world handball champion, will take advantage of his time in the States to prepare for the US Handball Open which takes place in Los Angeles in October. Last week, the Mullahoran clubman was honoured with the Handballer of the Year Award for 2006, his second time to receive the accolade.

Brady was scheduled to make a rare appearance in the 60 x 30 code and One Wall Nationals this year, but is likely to keep to the familiar 40 x 20 training during his stay in Chicago. His departure, and that of Cavan Gaels star, Seanie Johnson, will be a major loss to the Breffni side. Mullohoran, who are aiming to defend their county title this season, have also been dealt a severe blow by Brady’s exodus but the 27-year-old will now turn his attention to collecting silverware stateside.

News of Brady and Johnson’s US move comes quick on the heals of a large number of Antrim players taking up offers of summer football from various other American clubs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 12, 2007, 05:13:55 PM
shite i though it was bullshit aswell..  Best of luck to them but not good for county team  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 12, 2007, 05:29:06 PM
No, definitely not.  >:(

Says alot about what they reckon the team can achieve and gives the lie to the line being peddled by Keogan and Grimley all year about a fantastic bunch of players giving it their all with full commitment and so on.

If this is the attitude in the squad, and with one of the players in question related to Keogan as well, it would appear that interest has bottomed out completely and the season is about to fizzle out into a damp squib. On one hand I can't blame the guys really but on the other I think it's a selfish act and letting down the others on the team who have trained as hard all year. There can't really be great unity and spirit in the camp like we thought.

I hope I'm wrong but we look even more of a soft touch in the qualifiers now and that's a shame because we did seem to ahve made some little bit of progress this year from an admittedly low starting point.

It makes for grim reading and all in all would leave a person:

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 12, 2007, 05:41:33 PM
This is a fu*king disgrace. I am an admirer of both players abilities but this is a kick in the teeth to the other players and to the supporters of Cavan up and down the country. Many exceptions have been made for Brady over the years to accomodate his handball and this is what we get back. And to think Anthony Gaynor went away for a couple of weeks pre-season and he gets the boot!!! What the hell did these boys train all year for if they are going to head off like that. Maybe if we paid them they'd play a bit better for Cavan. Clearly the senior panel is in melt-down. 16 at training, players pissing off. I for one don't Brady and Johnstone well at all - may the divil bull them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 12, 2007, 06:01:25 PM
Very dissappointing news. Brady and Johnstone shouldn't be let play for Cavan again if this is true, if they had told mgt at the start of the year that this was their intention then they wouldn't be on the panel in the first place so to spring this on the other players and mgt now is just taking the piss and sticking the two fingers up at anyone who is committed about Cavan football. Maybe the rumours about Larry and McCabe quitting aren't too wide of the mark either..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 12, 2007, 06:14:12 PM
Very surprised and disappointed with the news.

On one hand I accept that young people like Johnston deserve the chance to travel before they commit to the restrains of the real world. But on the other (much heavier at this point) hand how can these guys just up sticks and leave their team-mates and county during a championship campaign.

Could this be anything to do with the two lads not starting against Down in Newry?

Gunner said at the start of the year he was giving one last year to Cavan football before relinquishing his dual role, so has he played his last game in the Breffni Blue.

If Keoghan & Co. stick about for another year, will we see these boys get the same cold shoulder Gaynor is getting??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2007, 06:38:16 PM
Perfect time to bring back Eddie and Gaynor so.  :)
we need a back and a forward to add to the panel.

(thats a nice can of worms there im just after opening up)

Disappointed the two guys are going,IMO they would have been key players if we wanted to progress in the qualifiers.
But well it leaves the door open to two players who  want to be there.

Jelly and Gunner will also miss the first round and possibely the quarter finals of the club championships aswell.
The Gaels will miss him against Gowna in the first round,thats for sure.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 12, 2007, 09:29:19 PM
Yet again folks I think this begins to expose my sad theory that the good people of Cavan are being spun another pile of shite-we heard it all in various previous regimes-Kerrigan, McIlkennon being the best physical coach in the Country and we turn out an embarrassingly unfit team on a number of key occassions (Mayo in last 12, Down last albeit injury crisis was serious). So we get the same crack from Grimley and Keogan in the media this year,,,,,,,,,,,,,effort put in, couldn't ask more of them, same level of professionalism as Armagh etc. etc. etc. Then we get the first round against down and at least three players are patently unfit, overweight etc. The actions of these guys heading off to USA says more about the state of the panel than any of the standard managerial soundbytes.

Sad
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 13, 2007, 12:20:42 AM
There's a part of me that cannot begrudge these lads the chance to make a few handy quid.

But there's an even bigger part of me that thinks f**k these pricks I'd rather not win a game at senior level for three years than have either of them on the team again.

We clearly have to go back to square one and nurture young players from knee high up who both take pride in and understand what it means to pull on the blue shirt of a county with innumerably more Ulster titles than any other and as many All-Irelands as its nearest rivals in the province. Where is it all going wrong that two of our leading players and supposed role models for young gaels in our county can so flippantly f**k off in the middle of the championship without so much as having the decency to be even a little bit embarrassed?

The senior team has been suffering from too much short-termism for years, most noticably in how 'star' players have been indulged no matter what the sins under various managers and how other youngsters are brought in too soon and either over worked or infected with the general malaise. If the tail wasn't still wagging the dog when it comes to the county team and these big name players, these guys wouldn't have the balls to walk out now, in such an insulting fashion to all supporters, because they know that in a professional county they'd be effectively ending their intercounty careers. But deep down they know that when they come back and deign to consider the county team - probably after being begged to - there'll be an open door and a starting jersey for them.

If we have to clear out all these self-serving muppets with their deep seated sense of entitlement and grossly inflated notion of self worth - and not win at senior for three years, I'd put up with it if at the end of the whole sorry bood letting process we had a squad full of passionate players willing to bust a gut for their county because they know and understand the responsibility and deep honour that goes with it.

This year is going backwards and down the drain in a rapid hurry. I'm disgusted and depressed the more I think about it. I'm ready for more horror stories, it's like a return to the bad old days under Mattie Kerrigan. Which begs the question, if Keogan has lost his taste for it, is it his own indifference that has handed carte blanche to the playes again to declare open season on team discipline and morale?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on June 13, 2007, 09:37:36 AM
On a better note, Cavan beat Mayo by four points in a challenge in Athlone last night

Mayo had Mortimer, McDonald, Dillon etc all playing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 13, 2007, 09:51:01 AM
Any idea who had cavan playing Brick ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on June 13, 2007, 10:18:17 AM
Rumour has it Larry and Mackey were very good, that's all i know
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 13, 2007, 10:21:34 AM
On a better note, Cavan beat Mayo by four points in a challenge in Athlone last night

Mayo had Mortimer, McDonald, Dillon etc all playing

Any one know what the full teams were?

On Sean Johnson leaving for the US, it seems there is a bit of a rift between himself and management, he was wrongly substituted in the drawn down game he now he has had enough by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 13, 2007, 11:09:26 AM
Is Sean Johnston a man or a f**king mouse? Is he such a cry baby that he can't accept being substituted, even if it was in the wrong, and go out and prove his doubters wrong in the next game like a real man would, and more to the point, a real sportsman?

Does he consider himself undroppable or untouchable on the basis of one or two top displays for his county and a bit of a run in the Sigerson? I accept he should be disappointed to be dropped or subbed - any one worth their salt should be - but the way to deal with that is on the field with the head down like he did in Newry, and not spit the dummy like a primadonna who seems to think he has achieved enough in the game to be telling management what to do.

Again I say, and I don't care how good he is, if he's not willing to toe the line, take selections on the chin and play for the good of the team, then he shouldn't be back on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 13, 2007, 12:20:27 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=78707 (http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=78707)

Keoghan fuming over defections

Cavan manager Donal Keoghan has told Paul Brady and Seanie Johnston that they will never play under him again following their decision to spend the rest of the summer in the US.

World Handball champion Brady and ace attacker Johnston informed a stunned Keoghan of their decision on Monday night to travel to Chicago where they will play for the St. Brendan’s club. It’s understood that they were contacted last week by St. Brendan’s and plan to fly out to the US on Friday.

Keoghan said a third unnamed player is leaving too, though a Cavan official said the player was still “considering his options.”

But the defections of Brady and Johnston is a huge blow to the Breffni County’s hopes of making an impact in the All-Ireland qualifiers following their elimination from the Ulster SFC last month by Down.

“I’m very disappointed with them and the lack of respect they’ve shown for their team-mates, for the management and for the Cavan team,” a fuming Keoghan said.

“I just got word that a third guy is heading off too and all I can say is that I’m very disappointed with them and their decision.

“I’ll be honest with you, I don’t even want to change their minds at this stage. If they want to train all year and then up sticks and head off to America then it just shows how much they really care about Cavan football.

“Any fella that goes away to America won’t be wearing a Cavan jersey again while I’m in charge. I’m very hurt about it. There’s definitely no way they’ll be back playing while I’m in charge.”

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"a third unnamed player is leaving too"

Looks like Cahill is heading stateside too. Finbar Reilly a la 2006 anyone?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 13, 2007, 12:30:52 PM
Hopefully someone new will get a chance to prove themselves now, one thing for sure is it makes Gaynor look like a saint for going away in December when there were no games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 13, 2007, 12:46:37 PM
I haven't been Keoghans biggest fan but I have to say that every word in that report above is exactly what I think. Let the pair (or three) of them f**k off and stay in the US. I will miss Johnstones clench fist to the crowd everytime he scores - not. Best to get the players out that don't truly care about Cavan and get the lads in (i.e. Gaynor) that do care about the county team.

That was a good result against Mayo, I'd love to know what the teams were. Maybe this exodus will work to unite the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 13, 2007, 01:02:52 PM
Why are there so mnay wankers in Cavan football
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 13, 2007, 01:19:33 PM
Why are there so mnay wankers in Cavan football

Didn't realise a census had been done on the proportion of wankers in each counties GAA :).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 13, 2007, 01:20:08 PM
“I’m very disappointed with them and the lack of respect they’ve shown for their team-mates, for the management and for the Cavan team,” a fuming Keoghan said.

“I just got word that a third guy is heading off too and all I can say is that I’m very disappointed with them and their decision.

“I’ll be honest with you, I don’t even want to change their minds at this stage. If they want to train all year and then up sticks and head off to America then it just shows how much they really care about Cavan football.

“Any fella that goes away to America won’t be wearing a Cavan jersey again while I’m in charge. I’m very hurt about it. There’s definitely no way they’ll be back playing while I’m in charge.”


Well said that man. Whatever you think about Keogan he's on the money with this one.

I hoep the guy in the Echo goes to town on these players this weekend as well, you needn't rely on the Celt to reflect the mood of the supporters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2007, 01:24:50 PM
Why are there so mnay wankers in Cavan football

your guess is as good as mine.

You dont hear of any of the Longford or Westmeath lads going over to the US,and christ we have as good a chance as progressing in the qualifiers as they do.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on June 13, 2007, 03:21:12 PM
Why are there so mnay wankers in Cavan football

your guess is as good as mine.

You dont hear of any of the Longford or Westmeath lads going over to the US,and christ we have as good a chance as progressing in the qualifiers as they do.

Well, Longford managed to do OK in the qualifiers last year in spite of one player fecking off to San Fran the week after the Dublin game. It didn't do us any harm and it could serve to motivate the rest of them, provided things are OK otherwise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on June 13, 2007, 03:42:06 PM
I hoep the guy in the Echo goes to town on these players this weekend as well, you needn't rely on the Celt to reflect the mood of the supporters.

To judge by the commentary on Hoganstand, the general attitude of the Cavan supporters seems to be in support of their players walking off as they see fit. Perhaps it's a case of the loudest voices drowning out the rest, perhaps people don't want to rock boats within the respective clubs, but that seems to be the general outlook all the same.

I'm not saying I agree with it (I don't), but it seems to chime with the general "where's mine?/what's in it for me?" attitude in this country these days. Idealists like yourself and myself are a dying breed, maniac :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 13, 2007, 04:24:38 PM
I hoep the guy in the Echo goes to town on these players this weekend as well, you needn't rely on the Celt to reflect the mood of the supporters.

To judge by the commentary on Hoganstand, the general attitude of the Cavan supporters seems to be in support of their players walking off as they see fit. Perhaps it's a case of the loudest voices drowning out the rest, perhaps people don't want to rock boats within the respective clubs, but that seems to be the general outlook all the same.

I'm not saying I agree with it (I don't), but it seems to chime with the general "where's mine?/what's in it for me?" attitude in this country these days. Idealists like yourself and myself are a dying breed, maniac :(

The thing with the hoganstand is that it is heavily sensored. I used to post there a bit but half them didn't get published. There is a strong editorial bias in many of the debates. I keep in contact with a lot of friends at home and I would say that most of them are disgusted with what these boys did. Most players would think twice before doing that to their local club never mind the county team. Anyway, most of them clowns on the hoganstand are 15 year olds that don't have fully developed brains so I would mind what they are saying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 13, 2007, 04:52:29 PM
Some lad on Hoganstand reckons he was at the Mayo match, I pasted his analysis below....

Cavan v Mayo
I went over to the cavan mayo match last night. Cavan were missing a lot, obviously none of the USA bound lads and no pierson mckeever fordey or sean brady, while mayo seemed to have nearly everyone apart from a few (andy moran, pat harte, david brady, could be more...)

Fairly high intensity with a massive amount of turnovers on both sides but good hard hitting
In truth cavan could have won by more - jayo got both goals and could have had another, donal thomas came on and got thru a couple of times and fired over
Johnny crowe played well on mcdonald, mccabe was good, as was walsh larry and cian mackey. Keith fannin and michael hannon were good in the full back line

Hopefully might help get things back on track and give us a few more days out during the summer
martin , cavan Ireland , 13/06/2007 at 16:01
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 13, 2007, 09:55:37 PM
Shooting the messangers:

 

 

A few folks here have gone in seriously hard on Gunner and Jelly and, while I understand their frustration and certainly agree that some (not all) panelists are entitled to feel let down, I can't agree with the stick that they are getting.

 

 Without knowing either of these fellas, they certainly struck me, up to now, as being two of the more committed members of the panel, good levels of fitness/committment, no major stories of them being among the more, ahem, social members of the team/panel. So they hammer along training through the shite all winter, we achieve our first objective of getting out of Division 2B and Messrs Keoghan and Grimley advise us that all is sweetness and light-fitness/training/togetherness etc. Next thing we line up for the first round of the Ulster Championship with at least three players that I counted in a state of unfitness that would not have been tolerated in the days of McHugh or, god help us, Val Andrews. This is then compounded by a level of tactical awareness on the sidelines that the Cavan Echo memorably dubbed "Under 12 Challenge"-whatever the problem, replace the corner forwards. Out we go at the replay and then a seven week wait ensues and most of the information about our panelists revolves around an element of socialising. Numbers at training total 16 on one night.

 

 So then Jelly and Gunner get phone calls asking them to come to Chicago and play for the summer for SERIOUS bloody mullah. I know of players from other counties that have received the offers and they are certainly enough to make people think. I have  no doubt they did agonise over it but can fully understand, theyre not going to be getting that offer in 10 years time and Cavan would not be the greatest at looking after some of it's former stars that could do with some support. Whether we like it or not folks Money is now the common language of this country and is one reason why self employed men like, for instance, Trevor Crowe cannot make the committment we would all love to see.

 

Of course a win in the qualifiers and this will soon be forgotten. The really sad thing is that, rather than banging on about these guys actions, the county board should perhaps be doing some serious soul searching as to why a situation has arisen whereby two Railway Cup players have taken this action. Problem for our county board is that part of the responsibility may lie a bit close to home.

 

Finally-not real clever of Donal to dismiss this lot as well as Gaynor. My feeling is that Gaynor and Jelly will be wearing the blue Jersey when the current management team is well forgotten

 

 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 13, 2007, 11:54:37 PM
I can see why they went ac39. It's a good offer, they're young men, not tied down, and in Gunners case it's a chance to base himself Stateside and make another few bucks at the handball, which is all he has to put bread on the table.

But their decision to jump now, 2 weeks before our next game, shows how flimsy their commitment to the cause really is when the surface is scratched. The first wave of a bit of cash and they literally can't wait to drop their knickers. I agree fully with Keogan when he says that this shows what they really think of Cavan football. Cavan football, in return for their own ackowledged efforts has nurtured them, given them their profile, improved them as players and I'm sure has had various positive knock on effects in their personal and professional lives.

St. Brendans in Chicago doesn't give a f**k about Cavan or its footballers, or even about Gunner and Sean Johnston for that matter. It has done nothing for the development of the game in Cavan, and by flashing the wallet at players before they are finished their commitments to the hundreds of volunteers and team mates that have given them so much at both their clubs and county team, is absolutely bang out of order.

I have no problem with players going over on a jolly - once their commitment to the clubs and people that helped make them what they are, and gave them the platform for being head hunted by glory hunting american clubs (who'd be better off investing their money in teaching locals the games, especially if it's such big sums we're talking here) has been realised. I'm just an idealist like Laurel Eye says, I guess.

I do agree that Jelly will play again in a Cavan shirt long after the current management is gone and I suspect you offered this as a tacit endorsement of what they're doing and their greater importance in the overall scheme of things to come down the line than Keogan, but welcoming back guys like this is just more quick-buckism of the type that has hindered our county team for years. A good player is forgiven all ills for the short term gain, nobody looks at the bigger picture of why some of our best players have lost sight of what playing for a county like ours should still mean - or is all that obliterated by the 'what's in it for me' attitude as well, or more so in the place of Cavan players especially, 'sure they'll beg me to come back anyway, I'll look after meself and play when it suits me.'

All this still applies irrespective of how unfit the likes of Mulvey etc were against Down. Those guys aside there was a definite upswing in player commitment to training this year and a much better attitude and pride/fighting spirit in the squad. This pair (soon to be trio?) going against that grain makes all this even more lamentable and inexscusable. I applaud Keogan if he stays brave and keeps guys like this off the panel because 15 fighting and passionate Cavan men with pride in their county and its jersey is better in the long term than a bunch of malcontents with delusions of grandeur, serving their own interests first and behaving like guys who have a sideboard full of medals when in fact nobody would recognise them or give them a second look outside their own county.

Sorry for banging on but this really fucks me off altogether.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on June 14, 2007, 06:33:15 PM
Just a suggestion, but do any of ye think that if the county championships were up and running (or even regular league games) would these lads be as quick to head off.As it is they can feck off for 2 months in the middle of summer to the states, and arrive back in time to play in the semi - finals of the championship in mid August.(presuming the Gaels & Mullahoran get that far).
The County Board are as big a culprits in this as the players are,and Keoghan should have held his whist,some management.

At least there's a chance these players will be available in the future (Gunner could/but unlikely change his mind about retiring).What if Cian Mackey takes up Cork City’s invitation to train with them and is successful, chances are he may not play for the County again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 14, 2007, 10:18:57 PM
Fair points in there Maniac.

Who are Gunner and Jelly letting down? I don't think they owe a whole lot to Cavan supporters who, like me, are an increasingly fickle and critical lot. Clubs/counties that nurtured/developed them-up to a point but that is a two way street.

Who they have let down is the other panel members and the management team. But here's my point-as far as I'm concerned a number of other players have let their fellow panel members down already-the three players (not just Mulvey, 20% of the bloody team) who lined out against Down clearly unfit for 70 minutes of championship football, the fella who split his time between Monaghan United and the County Panel, the number of blokes who, we are led to believe, did not let county committments get in the way of their social committments. Surely as Gunner and Jelly were contemplating their offer their thinking was informed by the attitudes of othe panel members. Interestingly these two guys would have had exposure to another side of sports preparation-Gunner with the Handball and Jelly with a DCU Sigerson Cup team.

Hopefully we will win at least one game in the qualifiers although it will be challenging. If the season becomes a bit more shambolic I will gladly line up to cast the first stone at Mr Grimley who has been reassuring us of the mini-Armagh style revolution that was undeway during his tenure, Jaysus boy there were some large panting elephants in the drawing room at Breffni during the preliminary round. Anyway, no more bitching and hopefully Grimley can turn this into a bit of a siege thing with the remaining players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 16, 2007, 02:24:37 PM
Report on game against Mayo.....

http://www.cavanecho.com/pdf/pages/cav030.pdf

Our favorite news columists take on Mad Eddie

http://www.cavanecho.com/pdf/pages/cav028.pdf
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 16, 2007, 10:13:49 PM
Martin Reily at wing back?  :o

as for the team,Like the idea of two ball winners in the half forward line in Galligan and Cullivan.

Dermot Sheridan at Full Back? i think thers place on the team for him but not full back

No Sign of Darren Rabbitte which is diappointing.

anyway its always good to win, against what looks to be a strong Mayo team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 18, 2007, 03:22:53 PM
two ball winners in the half forward line in Galligan and Cullivan.

No offence but any time I've seen (Ciarán) Galligan he looks like he wouldn't win a ball if it was first prize in a raffle and he had bought all the tickets. A big strapping lad and every inch of him is scared of his shite. :o

I saw him up close in Newry and he ran around all day after Down lads steadfastly refusing to put a tackle on anyone. Going through the motions and hoping nobody noticed. It's a shame that when we unearth a genuine big strong player, he looks like he'd fall over in a swoon if you flicked him with a leaf of lettuce or be in traction for a month after a firm handshake. Very disappointed in him so far and seeing as you can't buy bravery I don't see him changing much.

Or am I being too harsh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 18, 2007, 03:40:04 PM
Your right maniac there is no football in him and he lets games drift by him without making an impact.  He is getting out shone this year at club by his midfield partner who is 33/34.  I don't wanna be to harsh on the lad cos he gives more commitment that most but he isn't even a good club player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 18, 2007, 04:22:39 PM
Would agree with both accounts on Galligan. No questioning the lad's commitment in training if only he could commit to a 50-50 in Newry.

Hair pulling stuff to think one of his own club-men can admit his flaws and inadequacies as a club midfielder yet Keoghan and Co. would start the fella midfield in an Ulster Championship match.  ::)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2007, 04:48:41 PM
we are back to a McCabe, Walsh Midfield for the rest of this year anyway,No-one else has shown themselves to be up to the required standard  ::)

C4ever
Paul Slowey is indeed playing great stuff for you lads, averaging what 4 or 5 points per game from MF?

i seen Donal Thomas was brought on as a sub in that Mayo game aswell.
Dont think he has it for Intercounty either though,

who was it that mentioned Homers clubmate McDermott as a possible option a few weeks back?
im beginning to see the possibilities there.Heard hes playing great stuff for Ballinagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 18, 2007, 05:00:19 PM


C4ever
Paul Slowey is indeed playing great stuff for you lads, averaging what 4 or 5 points per game from MF?

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Yeah i haven't seen him playing aswell in a long time playing serious stuff , he's making the lad beside him look awful bad.  Yeah he has 9 points from his last 2 games can't remember what he has scored before that but he has been catching any ball that comes near him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 18, 2007, 05:28:19 PM
who was it that mentioned Homers clubmate McDermott as a possible option a few weeks back?
im beginning to see the possibilities there.Heard hes playing great stuff for Ballinagh.

Cian has more than enough ability and power to make it at inter-county level but I doubt he would be interested to be honest. He went into the county u21s for 2 weeks last year before packing it in. A pity as he would have made a great addition to the side had he stuck with it. Looked sluggish in our last two games but I would consider exam-time had a lot of bearing on this, that and he did have the unenviable task of marshaling Trevor Crowe and Dermot McCabe.

Damien McInerney is another fella that needs to be convinced to return to the county-fold. A lion-hearted footballer and a tremendous athlete, he just doesn't know how to let you down. I wouldn't let his small stature fool you either - a little tank.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 18, 2007, 06:04:42 PM
I have been flitting in and out of this discussion so some of my questions may have been answered.

1) are the players getting a transfer to St. Brendan's  If they have been transfered, surely they can't play for their clubs until next year.

2)  what has the county board said about this? More importantly, what has Croke park said about it?

The qualifiers when the happen will be of a standard that is as high as these vguys woud ever play.  Surely they want to prove themselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 18, 2007, 06:25:52 PM
I have been flitting in and out of this discussion so some of my questions may have been answered.

1) are the players getting a transfer to St. Brendan's  If they have been transfered, surely they can't play for their clubs until next year.

2)  what has the county board said about this? More importantly, what has Croke park said about it?

The qualifiers when the happen will be of a standard that is as high as these vguys woud ever play.  Surely they want to prove themselves.

Regarding 1, you can get a 60 day sanction to play football with foreign clubs and then return and play for your own club in the same year. As far as I know the sanction lasts the full 60 days so they will miss the next two months.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2007, 09:03:36 PM
McInerney is a class act no doubt,Put him in at Cornerback on the county and forget about that position for 5-10 yearss

As for Cian McDermott
i seen him playing for Ballinagh under 21's against our lot,in November 2005,He played the field,outfielding Cullivan and Conor Lyons with ease it seemed,we dragged out our Full Back to spoil him then after 25 minutes,but the damage was already done,i thought he was a certainty for County Under 21's 06 after seeing that.
Shame he doesnt have the interest.

Denn Forever

How did ye Denn H00rs react when ye heard Martin Cahill was US Bound?  :P
a Big Blow to yer hopes of progressing in the Senior Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 18, 2007, 10:54:19 PM
Need you ask when we got hammered by the Gaels.  Do we need to get Donal out of retirement.


Thanks for the answer Homer.  Good luck to them.
So it appears that the GAA condon this practice.  I thought that recently someone fell foul of this recently

 Will we miss them?  Johnson played with DCU but in the final they won, terrible wether but he didn't play as well as Mortimer.  So will we miss him.   I don't think so.  Cahill is not a corner back.  He is a direct player and doesn't seem to have the "cuteness" required.  Should the postion be given to someone who plays there for their club.  The   ideal would be a Tony Sculion clone.  Re. the gunnar, he doesn't appear to be very glic witness coming back from america and expecting to play well the next day.  A management failure to allow him to start?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 19, 2007, 01:31:12 PM
Not so sure about Cian McDermott myself. He was very very quiet for Ballinagh in our game with them in the u21 championship last year. Podge Reilly was the only Ballinagh player the stood out and he was head and shoulders over everyone else on the pitch that day. Maybe McDermott just had an off day...

He had an off day alright CC1... he had an off the pitch day, he injured his cruciate ligament in the league semi-final and wasn't fit to play.

McInerney is a class act no doubt,Put him in at Cornerback on the county and forget about that position for 5-10 yearss

The issue with McInerney is that he feels he'd be codding himself going in to the senior panel, that he would not be able for it. He's finished college now so maybe somebody might be able to persuade him to give it a shot.

As for Cian McDermott
i seen him playing for Ballinagh under 21's against our lot,in November 2005,He played the field,outfielding Cullivan and Conor Lyons with ease it seemed,we dragged out our Full Back to spoil him then after 25 minutes,but the damage was already done,i thought he was a certainty for County Under 21's 06 after seeing that.
Shame he doesnt have the interest.

Remember that game too BhaiseMan, we started with McInerney CHB, Gaynor and McDermott MF, and Podge CHF. I recall thinking at the time it must have been one of the strongest u21 diamond formations in the country.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 19, 2007, 01:33:50 PM
Quote
Remember that game too BhaiseMan, we started with McInerney CHB, Gaynor and McDermott MF, and Podge CHF. I recall thinking at the time it must have been one of the strongest u21 diamond formations in the country

Only in Cavan would ye think that shite....that sentance tells all that is wrong with Cavan football...when are ye going to realise ye are shite...and do something from u6s up to bring change! Ye are unreal!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2007, 01:39:57 PM
Quote
Remember that game too BhaiseMan, we started with McInerney CHB, Gaynor and McDermott MF, and Podge CHF. I recall thinking at the time it must have been one of the strongest u21 diamond formations in the country

Only in Cavan would ye think that shite....that sentance tells all that is wrong with Cavan football...when are ye going to realise ye are shite...and do something from u6s up to bring change! Ye are unreal!

someones cranky  :D Bellaghy not win in that McGlinchy cup thing last night then Max?  ;)  i do read the Derry thread once in a while to see you lot bitching at each other.  ;D

Far be it for me to be defending Ballinagh,as we have killed each other at all levels over the last 5 years on and off the pitch  :D

But that was one hell of an under 21 team alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 19, 2007, 01:50:18 PM
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Remember that game too BhaiseMan, we started with McInerney CHB, Gaynor and McDermott MF, and Podge CHF. I recall thinking at the time it must have been one of the strongest u21 diamond formations in the country

Only in Cavan would ye think that shite....that sentance tells all that is wrong with Cavan football...when are ye going to realise ye are shite...and do something from u6s up to bring change! Ye are unreal!

I did mean at club level Max and i just meant those central 4 players, its only IMHO but McInerney, Gaynor and Podge were key players in the Cavan u21 team that year that would have beaten Down in the Ulster-final but for Gaynor losing the head and leaving us a man down after 15 mins.

 but cheers for that input.  ::)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 19, 2007, 02:03:01 PM
Thanks lads, try to get a bite...but ye kept ur heads :-* :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 19, 2007, 02:55:26 PM
Try the Armagh or Tyrone threads Max, plenty of snappers over there


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 19, 2007, 03:39:44 PM
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Remember that game too BhaiseMan, we started with McInerney CHB, Gaynor and McDermott MF, and Podge CHF. I recall thinking at the time it must have been one of the strongest u21 diamond formations in the country

Only in Cavan would ye think that shite....that sentance tells all that is wrong with Cavan football...when are ye going to realise ye are shite...and do something from u6s up to bring change! Ye are unreal!

Lads I know this boy was on a wind up but I agree. That's some pile of shite, with all due respect.

McInerney is a very solid player but too small in my opinion. Gaynor and Podge, fair enough, both had played in the Ulster senior championship, but McDermott is unproven at Cavn senior championship level, let alone Ulster. He's unproven at any level whatsoever for Cavan actually!

McInerney and McDermott are very good club players but the fatc that someone here (Homer?) excused two poor McDermott performances on the basis that he was marking inter county standard players (McCabe and Crowe) tells it's own story.

Crowe absolutely cleaned him out in Lacken that evening, although I would like to see McDermott go in to see what he has to offer, he could well make the step up but the jury is out...

What Max says is true, we're absolutely useless at every level of football and hurling and the stats back this up. Minors, Under 21s and seniors gone at the first round again this year - I wouldnt mind but the old hard luck stories of losing by a point to the team who wins the AI don't ring true either; Down minors and seniors were both beaten next time out, and Monaghan Under 21s couldn't get out of Ulster, beaten by a Down team who were themsleves dispatches next time out.

If Cavan football were a racehorse, there'd be so many lines of form running against us that we'd be 100/1 shots every day out!

PS Just thought of another - Ros, who we all said were class (brilliant massive midfield, nippy forwards etc), lost to Sligo. I mean, Sligo!!!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2007, 04:57:45 PM
Ger Heneghan absolutely destroyed Anthony Forde at full forward,what did he do against Sligo? f**k all

Cathal Cregg?? destroyed Gunner at wing forward,and was annointed Roscommons next great hope,
He done sweet f**k all against Sligo either.

Finneran and O Neil made a show of us in the midfield area in Croker,

O Hara and Quinn showed them up to be what they were,two statues, who can catch a decent ball alright.

we now know in hindsight,That night showed more of the deficiencies of Our team than Rossies brilliance.

As for the naming of McInerney and McDermott as possible countymen,Its speculation i started because i was conversing with a Ballinagh GFC player/member,I dont know what club you are from HM?  ;) if i did,id be debating what players from your club should be getting a chance at the county set-up.I often have the same debates with Drungman C4ever.

Its boring this time of the year,No county games and now club championships.we need something to post about.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 19, 2007, 06:09:23 PM
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Remember that game too BhaiseMan, we started with McInerney CHB, Gaynor and McDermott MF, and Podge CHF. I recall thinking at the time it must have been one of the strongest u21 diamond formations in the country

Only in Cavan would ye think that shite....that sentance tells all that is wrong with Cavan football...when are ye going to realise ye are shite...and do something from u6s up to bring change! Ye are unreal!

Lads I know this boy was on a wind up but I agree. That's some pile of shite, with all due respect.

McInerney is a very solid player but too small in my opinion. Gaynor and Podge, fair enough, both had played in the Ulster senior championship, but McDermott is unproven at Cavn senior championship level, let alone Ulster. He's unproven at any level whatsoever for Cavan actually!

McInerney and McDermott are very good club players but the fatc that someone here (Homer?) excused two poor McDermott performances on the basis that he was marking inter county standard players (McCabe and Crowe) tells it's own story.

Crowe absolutely cleaned him out in Lacken that evening, although I would like to see McDermott go in to see what he has to offer, he could well make the step up but the jury is out...

What Max says is true, we're absolutely useless at every level of football and hurling and the stats back this up. Minors, Under 21s and seniors gone at the first round again this year - I wouldnt mind but the old hard luck stories of losing by a point to the team who wins the AI don't ring true either; Down minors and seniors were both beaten next time out, and Monaghan Under 21s couldn't get out of Ulster, beaten by a Down team who were themsleves dispatches next time out.

I made the above statement in reference to the players, their form and my opinion of them at that time. Nothing to do with what has happened since HM.

Whatever about it having a bearing now, I don't believe that McInerney's size was that much of a factor at u21 level.

I agree that McDermott is the weak player in the 4 but again you're using present day arguments against the fella. But just to clarify I did mention that those two matches occurred during exam time which can fairly knock the stuffing out of anybody (Well actually the Gowna game was played just aprés exams, so you can make your own mind up on that one   :P).

Having said all that, I know it was a bit rich to come out with a statement like that. I don't think we were world beaters or anything  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 22, 2007, 01:44:24 PM
Any news anyone????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 24, 2007, 06:20:37 PM
Just f**kin perfect

a Trip to Castlebar was  about the last thing we wanted.  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 24, 2007, 09:02:46 PM
Division Two seems exciting CC1,
Redhills were flying a few weeks ago now they arent even top 4? right? lost by a point to Ballymachugh who seem to be going well themselves
Very close up there.

a few other shocks,Drumalee beat Ballinagh 0-8 to 0-6 in Ballinagh

we beat Denn 0-12 to 1-05 in Div 1
and drew 2-04 apiece in Div 4.

Gowna only beat Kingscourt by a point 1-12 to 1-11.

Gaels matches in Div 1,3 and 4 were all called off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 25, 2007, 09:06:56 AM
We lost to Drung by two or three points, despite scoring three goals (one absolute clanger by James Reilly, who had a very poor game by his standards). We missed too many (6 or 7) very scorable frees which cost us the game along with some very questionable decisions from the referee in Drung's favour in the first half. He improved in the second half and allowed the game to flow and it was a good end to end game of football. Drung made more use of the ball than we did and they duely punished us with it. We will now have to pick ourselves up for the big derby against Drumgoon.

We were missing our county star aswell  ;) .  Use missed way to much CC1 but your not gonna win many games when opposition scores 18 points.  James Reilly wasn't great but the defence did him no favours for two of the goals. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on June 25, 2007, 10:39:33 AM
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a few other shocks,Drumalee beat Ballinagh 0-8 to 0-6 in Ballinagh

Did Ballinagh not beat Drumalee by a point?

Mullahoran bt Drumlane
Lacken v CuCu's draw
Gowna bt Kingscourt

Good win for Ballyhaise, heard Denn failed to register a score (or even a wide) in the second half !!!

Div 1 Table
Team                  P.          Points
Cavan Gaels         7             13
Crosserlough         7             12
Ballinagh              8              11
Gowna                8              11
Castlerahan          7               9
Mullahoran           8               8
Denn                  8               8
Drumalee             8               8
Cuchullains           8               7
Belturbet             7               6
Lacken                8               6
Ballyhaise             8              5
Drumlane             8              2
Kingscourt            8              2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 25, 2007, 11:31:19 AM
That referee is a fool we had him before and he blows stupid frees and lets more serious things go.  There was a couple of dodgy decisions for both teams.   Don't know what the story with Galligan was he wasn't missed anyway becasue Alan Curran is twice the footballer he is. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 25, 2007, 12:37:18 PM
shotstopper

i read the Drumalee result off Aertal,apologies if its wrong.

Denn got into the Ballyhaise half i think 4 times in the second half,

Ray Cullivan just dominated everything at Centrefield...alongside him Conor Lyons was very good aswell.
Barry Kelly also outstanding at Wing Back,suprised Keoghan hasnt been in touch with Gunner going to bring him back in,after he left due to injury.

In reality how we only won by 4 is beyond me,when we had 90+ percent of the play the second half.

Denn didnt look at all fit or sharp,which is suprising with only 6/7 weeks to go until championship time,although it could be that they are undergoing the traditional pre championship heavy training at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 25, 2007, 01:36:29 PM
I see Martin Mc Elkennon is now in an Ulster final with Monaghan. the Irish news is raving a bout the conditioning of the Monaghan players. Maybe our players are the problem ;)

The attitude of the players is a big problem.  They were supposed to be off the drink this weekend but i seen 3 of them out drinking on saturday night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 25, 2007, 02:55:50 PM
Indeed every Monaghan Player was in peak physical condition,and were as asharp a team as ive seen in this years championship
McElkennon has even got Rory Woods into good condition FFS,They guy isnt carrying too much bodyfat by the looks of him.

Compare that to the Cavan shambles of overweight players.Why is it tolerated in Cavan and nowhere else?it should not matter who the player is and how good he is,if hes not fit or has too much weight on,he should be dumped off the panel.

C4ever
i dont doubt it,
Two weeks before championship football and out on the lash.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on June 25, 2007, 04:35:47 PM
Look I don't doubt that there were players out at the wend! But were they all on the beer and can u be sure about that? If the were more fools them, they go mental when they lose and they can't understand why!! Maybe it is because of these beer session two weeks before games.

I think it's unfortunate that some players do this as there are players completely dedicated to the cause of the Cavan football scene and they will never progress unless all the panel get their act together.

Was the manager on the beer all weekend too? If so this is a bit of a bad example. I know these players are old enough but if u see your manager falling around drunk it leads players astray! Anyway that's only my opinion.

Maybe we can get some dignity back against Mayo, we did beat them in a challenge, while the compition will be diff I think it may be an advantage to us, once the players don't believe the hype that they can beat them two times in a rowi.e sure we beat them a few weeks ago we can do it again. Hopefully for the next two week they will get their heads down do the work needed!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 25, 2007, 04:44:56 PM
Look I don't doubt that there were players out at the wend! But were they all on the beer and can u be sure about that?

Two of them were anyway, as for the other it would be strange if he wasn't .   Anyways hopefully they will give Mayo a good game !!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 25, 2007, 06:28:11 PM
I see Martin Mc Elkennon is now in an Ulster final with Monaghan. the Irish news is raving a bout the conditioning of the Monaghan players. Maybe our players are the problem ;)

Dead right. Nobody could ever question McElkennon's credentials as a trainer, it's just that he didn't have the wherewithal to be a manager and impose the necessary discipline to make sure everybody adhered to his training regime. When Coleman was calling the shots in the dressing room and Marty was doing the training only, we went practically 70 minutes in Clones against Armagh, with 14 men, and should have won.

It's too bloody right the players that are the problem.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 27, 2007, 08:20:59 AM
Cavan 0-13 Fermanagh 1-9  last nite in Breffini

It could have been a draw either someone else had it 0-12 to 1-9

1. James Reilly
2. Michael Hannon
3. Dermot Sheridan
4. Keith Fannin
5. Eamon Reilly
6. Johnny Crowe
7. Martin Reilly
8. Dermot McCabe
9. Nick Walsh
10. Michael Brennan
11. Anthony Forde
12. Cian Mackey
13. Jason Reilly
14. Mark Mckeever
15. Ger Pierson

Jason went off injured after 10 minutes and lyng came on for him.  Lyng didn't come out for the second half and Sean Brady came on for him and he played quiet well at Full Forward.  Very poor in first half and improved slighly in second half.  Is Cullivan injured Ballyhaiseman??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 27, 2007, 11:13:31 AM
That's two challenges in a row we've had Sheridan at fullback. Fingers crossed he holds it together if he's there against Mayo.

I know Mackey did well against mayo some weeks ago but I'd be worried he'll totally disappear in a championship battle in Castlebar, if he's started, and it looks like he will with Johnston - he of the rousing point celebrations and jersey-clutching, remember - out banking a few dollars.

Ah sure all we can do is wait and see what happens.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on June 27, 2007, 11:21:25 AM
That's two challenges in a row we've had Sheridan at fullback. Fingers crossed he holds it together if he's there against Mayo.

I know Mackey did well against mayo some weeks ago but I'd be worried he'll totally disappear in a championship battle in Castlebar, if he's started, and it looks like he will with Johnston - he of the rousing point celebrations and jersey-clutching, remember - out banking a few dollars.

Ah sure all we can do is wait and see what happens.

Cavanmaniac Come down for the match and have a few pints of porter in Johnny Mc Hales and let the best team win
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 27, 2007, 12:23:43 PM
I'd like nothing better, have family and friends in Claremorris and all, but won't make Castlebar I'm afraid. I've gotten to more Ulster SFC games this year than ever before and then the weekend of a Cavan game, I'm tied up. Typical!

I'll just have to rely on the sagely publishings of Cavan4ever, Ballyhaiseman, thatstheball etc. as well as yon reprobate anglocelt39 who I expect will wake up and post his opinion on the game fairly soon. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 27, 2007, 04:26:25 PM
I'd like nothing better, have family and friends in Claremorris and all, but won't make Castlebar I'm afraid. I've gotten to more Ulster SFC games this year than ever before and then the weekend of a Cavan game, I'm tied up. Typical!

I'll just have to rely on the sagely publishings of Cavan4ever, Ballyhaiseman, thatstheball etc. as well as yon reprobate anglocelt39 who I expect will wake up and post his opinion on the game fairly soon. ;)

Not sure if i will make it myself have to much going on at the moment with weddings and stags but im sure it would be a good weekends craic for anyone who is staying over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 27, 2007, 05:07:37 PM
Cavan 0-13 Fermanagh 1-9  last nite in Breffini

It could have been a draw either someone else had it 0-12 to 1-9

1. James Reilly
2. Michael Hannon
3. Dermot Sheridan
4. Keith Fannin
5. Eamon Reilly
6. Johnny Crowe
7. Martin Reilly
8. Dermot McCabe
9. Nick Walsh
10. Michael Brennan
11. Anthony Forde
12. Cian Mackey
13. Jason Reilly
14. Mark Mckeever
15. Ger Pierson

Jason went off injured after 10 minutes and lyng came on for him.  Lyng didn't come out for the second half and Sean Brady came on for him and he played quiet well at Full Forward.  Very poor in first half and improved slighly in second half.  Is Cullivan injured Ballyhaiseman??

Cullivan took a knock on either his knee or ankle,not sure against Denn,im sure they just didnt risk him in a challenge match,he had a stormer for us and is in good form.
Has been flying in both club and (county training aswell so ive heard).
whats the deal with Martin Reily a wing back and Brennan, a wing forward,Perhaps he will line out like this in order to try and Confuse Mayo...with them switching before throw-in  ???

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 27, 2007, 05:33:11 PM
More to the point, how did Sheridan do at full-back? Is he the makings of a decent number 3 and could he handle the aerial prowess of Austin O'Malley?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 27, 2007, 05:36:07 PM
hes not terribely big CM,i think hed be more at home in the corner.a very good man marker and hard as nails as you would expect any Mullahoran man to be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 28, 2007, 08:12:45 AM
Cullivan took a knock on either his knee or ankle,not sure against Denn,im sure they just didnt risk him in a challenge match,he had a stormer for us and is in good form.
Has been flying in both club and (county training aswell so ive heard).
whats the deal with Martin Reily a wing back and Brennan, a wing forward,Perhaps he will line out like this in order to try and Confuse Mayo...with them switching before throw-in 


I dunno thats 2 games Martin Reilly has played at wing-back and the other nite he played quiet well, he seem to be a good tackler.  If cullivan and Mulvey are fit can't see brennan starting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 28, 2007, 08:15:57 AM
Cullivan took a knock on either his knee or ankle,not sure against Denn,im sure they just didnt risk him in a challenge match,he had a stormer for us and is in good form.
Has been flying in both club and (county training aswell so ive heard).
whats the deal with Martin Reily a wing back and Brennan, a wing forward,Perhaps he will line out like this in order to try and Confuse Mayo...with them switching before throw-in 


I dunno thats 2 games Martin Reilly has played at wing-back and the other nite he played quiet well, he seem to be a good tackler.  If cullivan and Mulvey are fit can't see brennan starting.

I wish they would play Mckeever at Wing back it my opinion it is his best postion and he would get in for breaks at midfield and drive forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Barney on June 28, 2007, 08:17:01 AM
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and could he handle the aerial prowess of Austin O'Malley?
:o
 :D

Said I'd have a spy lads. If ye are worried about Austie ye'd want to line-up some new scouts
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on June 28, 2007, 09:53:39 AM
Cavan drew with Fermanagh, I heard ref Eugene Murtagh tell Mulgrew when he was coming that it was 1-9 to 0-12, same score as I had and those around me...

Although to be fair, there were no umpires in second half so it was sometimes hard to tell what the ref was givin unless you watched closely the kickout position...

Brennan won't start at all I wouldn't say, Larry and Sean Brady and Lyng would be ahead of him in the forwards and Forde/Martin Reilly in the half back line

Walsh was dire the other night, he looks more like a number 5 in rugby than an inter county midfielder

Martin Reilly v good, Sean Brady was excellent when he came on too.

Like Forde at 11, did well when he wasn't ass-raping the ref over things like lineballs  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on June 28, 2007, 10:35:53 AM
Just a theory, but Cullivan played well for Ballyhaise at the w/e v Denn, a game Keoghan was at, and they may be thinking of playing him at FF v Mayo.He'd be still a bit of an unknown quanity to Mayo,as he played his worst half of football for Cavan in the drawn Down game and didn't feature in the replay.Doubtful if Mayo were watching too many of the league games other than the Roscommon game.Cavan showed their hand with Martin Reilly in the challenge game v Mayo (don't think Cullivan featured in that)and therefore may be keeping Cullivan under wraps for the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 28, 2007, 10:38:46 AM
I heard about a lad from Ballyconnell a few years ago Colin O Hara, i heard he impressed in a few challenge games but then just disappeared off the scene. What happened him
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 28, 2007, 10:42:17 AM


Walsh was dire the other night, he looks more like a number 5 in rugby than an inter county midfielder

Martin Reilly v good, Sean Brady was excellent when he came on too.


Walsh was getting up higher than his man most of the time for the kickouts but instead of putting his two hands up to catch the ball he was at his usual fisting the ball away or flicking it.  I never seen him play before he went to australia but could he catch a ball back then?  Id say Sean Brady will start the next day at least he isn't afraid to shoot and is accurate most of the time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Stagmeister on June 28, 2007, 04:05:19 PM
I heard about a lad from Ballyconnell a few years ago Colin O Hara, i heard he impressed in a few challenge games but then just disappeared off the scene. What happened him

He's a great footballer alright, very talented midfielder just dont know if he has it upstairs...few sandwiches short of a picnic if ya now what I mean.
He's playing his football down in Kildare this year with Allenwood...supposed to be playing great stuff too, I heard from a reliable source that he was approached to join up with the senior panel back around january or february however he turned down the opportunity citing drinking committments and also the fact that his tourrets condition, which he was diagnosed with a couple of years ago is said to be worsening.

Also, his Daddy, Inspector O'Hara, has been putting pressure on him to switch his allegiance to the lilywhites...so dont be surprised if you see him lining out for the flourbags in the next year or two, he'd be a perfect replacement for Dermot Earley

WATCH THIS SPACE!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 28, 2007, 04:12:23 PM
I heard about a lad from Ballyconnell a few years ago Colin O Hara, i heard he impressed in a few challenge games but then just disappeared off the scene. What happened him

He's a great footballer alright, very talented midfielder just dont know if he has it upstairs...few sandwiches short of a picnic if ya now what I mean.
He's playing his football down in Kildare this year with Allenwood...supposed to be playing great stuff too, I heard from a reliable source that he was approached to join up with the senior panel back around january or february however he turned down the opportunity citing drinking committments and also the fact that his tourrets condition, which he was diagnosed with a couple of years ago is said to be worsening.

Also, his Daddy, Inspector O'Hara, has been putting pressure on him to switch his allegiance to the lilywhites...so dont be surprised if you see him lining out for the flourbags in the next year or two, he'd be a perfect replacement for Dermot Earley

WATCH THIS SPACE!!!

Another case of a player switching counties, this is getting out of hand now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 28, 2007, 04:28:20 PM
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Walsh was getting up higher than his man most of the time for the kickouts but instead of putting his two hands up to catch the ball he was at his usual fisting the ball away or flicking it

was at the game as well the other night, at one stage Walsh got up and kept his hands by his side! Looked like he was going up for a header!!

good and bad points to take from it

Their goal was a shocker, walked through

One other thing:

As they say in Hot Press....CIAN MACKEY HAS BECOME A PASTICHE OF HIMSELF!

I thought nobody could run past a man, and instead of tapping ober, put the head down and go past another, then another and then kick it up in the air from the corner flag at least once every game, then I saw Mackey! Few classics the other night again...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2007, 04:38:28 PM
Lets hope he does it tonight aswell as we are playing them in Ballyjamesduff  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Stagmeister on June 29, 2007, 11:00:49 AM
Anyone at the KingsCourt Stars game last night...heard they beat cavan gaels by a goal, great win for them
Apparently its between themselves, Ballyhaise and someone else to go down - with two teams going down

I have a mate from kingscourt who reckons they should stay up now and is even tipping them to get to the championship final and possibly win it!!

Realistically have they any chance of winning the championship or is this fella talkin through his hole???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 29, 2007, 11:37:38 AM
I heard from a fairly reliable source that Kieran McDonald is out of the Cavan game. Anyone else hear that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 29, 2007, 11:48:34 AM
is this fella talkin through his hole???

Talking through his hole i reckon Stagmeister, sure he reckons that kingscourt will win all there remaining league games even though they couldnt buy a win all season!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 29, 2007, 12:23:40 PM
I heard from a fairly reliable source that Kieran McDonald is out of the Cavan game. Anyone else hear that.

Ciaran and not "Kieran" is more than likely out of this game he pulled his hamstring during the week
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 29, 2007, 12:38:43 PM
is this fella talkin through his hole???

Talking through his hole i reckon Stagmeister, sure he reckons that kingscourt will win all there remaining league games even though they couldnt buy a win all season!!
In fairness, their whole first team were out injured at stages this season. No team could cope with their injury problems. I believe that they are just getting back to normal now with only Alan Clarke out with a broken leg.

We lost to the Goonies last night after going in at the break 0-11 to 0-03 up and completely in control of the game. They came out in the second half with Hannon and Fannin in the full forward line. We went completely asleep in the second half and won about two balls in midfield in the second half which ultimately lost us the game. Fannin scoring at least 1-5 and Hannon scoring 0-2. Shercock 0-12, Drumgoon 1-13.  :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 29, 2007, 12:42:44 PM
I heard from a fairly reliable source that Kieran McDonald is out of the Cavan game. Anyone else hear that.

Ciaran and not "Kieran" is more than likely out of this game he pulled his hamstring during the week

It won't make much difference anyway. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 29, 2007, 01:03:30 PM
I heard from a fairly reliable source that Kieran McDonald is out of the Cavan game. Anyone else hear that.

Ciaran and not "Kieran" is more than likely out of this game he pulled his hamstring during the week

It won't make much difference anyway. 

What are you on about. A "C" or a "K" could be the winning or losing of this game!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 29, 2007, 02:17:53 PM
I heard from a fairly reliable source that Kieran McDonald is out of the Cavan game. Anyone else hear that.

Ciaran and not "Kieran" is more than likely out of this game he pulled his hamstring during the week

It won't make much difference anyway. 

What are you on about. A "C" or a "K" could be the winning or losing of this game!!

Sorry i know that the "C" or "K" are very important  :D :D .

What i meant is i don't think it will make any differance if he plays or not.

Players Cavan will be missing or likely missing,
Sean Johnston
Paul Brady
Martin Cahill
Larry Reilly (shoulder)
Mickey Lyng (Hamstring)
Jason Reilly (Hamsting)
Ciarain Galligan (not sure)

Apparently Aaron Donohoe is back as sub goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2007, 04:07:08 PM
F**k it with Kingscourt winning
we got well beaten by Castlerahan last night, 6 or 7 point sin it in the end.

we went 1-3 to no score up,then Castlerahan brought on Flanagan,and he played the field,magnificant,at MIDFIELD as well,he even outfielded McCrudden once ::)

Sean Brady, outstanding at full forward,kicked id say 0-4 or 0-5

Mackey scored the goal,but was kept very quiet by Fergal Slowey.

for us,Ray Cullivan was missing,
Eamon Costello,kicked over 3 or 4 marvelous points,but we were never in the 2nd half.
will go into more detail if asked,but other than that cant be arsed.

Kingscourt could give the championship a good run,They were without a ridiculous amount of players,
No Club team with possible exception the Gaels could cope with the players they had out missing.

Im in a bad mood over last nights match btw,so if you see some angry posts by me on the board,you will know why  >:(  :D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 29, 2007, 04:24:02 PM
is this fella talkin through his hole???

Talking through his hole i reckon Stagmeister, sure he reckons that kingscourt will win all there remaining league games even though they couldnt buy a win all season!!
In fairness, their whole first team were out injured at stages this season. No team could cope with their injury problems. I believe that they are just getting back to normal now with only Alan Clarke out with a broken leg.

We lost to the Goonies last night after going in at the break 0-11 to 0-03 up and completely in control of the game. They came out in the second half with Hannon and Fannin in the full forward line. We went completely asleep in the second half and won about two balls in midfield in the second half which ultimately lost us the game. Fannin scoring at least 1-5 and Hannon scoring 0-2. Shercock 0-12, Drumgoon 1-13.  :(
Correction, looks like Toastie was back for the Gaels game last night, he got one of the goals that made the difference on the night. I feel your pain BM, its just sickening to be up by so much and just lose a game like that... :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 29, 2007, 04:29:08 PM
Flanagan is developing into a savage footballer altogether by the sounds of things. It's hard to bring that level to intercounty but can you imagine if he did?

Didn't hear about those injuries to Larry, Lyng and Jason but Galligan's no loss I have to say....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2007, 04:33:34 PM
CC1 just read youse lost to Drumgoon after being 0-11 to 0-03 up,
jaysus,im sure ya feel worse than me so.Fannin is in good form i see,wouldnt mind seeing him as a half forward against Mayo,he seemingly can score.
Read on Hoganstand Drumlane beat Gowna,someone please tell me thats not true,or we are in deep sh*t altogether.

CManiac
Flanagan picked up an obscene amount of ball last night,he was everywhere.
Good from a county perspective that Flanagan and Brady looked very sharp,
Mackey was always going to get it hard to impress with Fergal Slowey man marking him.Slowey is an absolute nightmare to play against.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 29, 2007, 04:44:24 PM
Mackey was always going to get it hard to impress with Fergal Slowey man marking him.Slowey is an absolute nightmare to play against.

Heard you on about this guy before. Did he ever get a chance with the county or what age of a chap is he? The more I read the contributions on here the more I think there's unheralded chaps like this lurking in clubs that the county broom never seems to sweep up and afford a chance to. Then again, people always think there's lads not on the panel that should be, might be wishful thinking but if we never try them we'll never know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2007, 04:47:21 PM
hes small only about 5'7 or 5'8,Hes a brilliant footballer,his height is the only thing against him.
Played County at all levels underage and Under 21 this year,started against Rossies in last years Tommy Murphy Cup game aswell.
I still think despite his small stature,hes going to be a regular on the Cavan team from next year on.
some of you no doubt will disagree.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mannix on June 29, 2007, 07:32:02 PM
"Hes only 5 '7 or 5' 8 ".I am 5'9 and do not consider myself small.I am fairly fit and weigh 13 stone, am i small?wHAT DOES SMALL MEAN IN YOUR TERMS?
Marty Mc Nicholas is smaller than me, so is conor mort, dillon may be my height,noel connelly was about my height last time i was beside him.What is small these days?
Did anyone see the meath team recently?
Smallest starter against the dubs was 6 foot and about 13 stone, monsters or am i tiny?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2007, 08:10:46 PM
anything under 5'9 is small mannix,  :D i dodged that one  :D!!!You can get away with a few small forwards for sure,But not too many small backs,thats my opinion in modern day intercounty football
the Meath team is monstorous no doubt,not one member down the central positions under 6'2 and 14 stone...
No other intercounty team could compare in terms of height and weight id say,yet it didnt get them past Dublin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 30, 2007, 01:15:31 PM
anything under 5'9 is small mannix,  :D i dodged that one  :D!!!You can get away with a few small forwards for sure,But not too many small backs,thats my opinion in modern day intercounty football
the Meath team is monstorous no doubt,not one member down the central positions under 6'2 and 14 stone...
No other intercounty team could compare in terms of height and weight id say,yet it didnt get them past Dublin.


Meath are reverting back to their 'core' setup of old at the moment alright but aother huge team has to be Cork. Canty, Cussen, Kavanagh, Nicholas Murphy and a whole lot of other strapping lads. And with the enmity between the sides from Billy Morgan v Sean Boylan era, there'd be almighty walloping if these sides managed to meet in the championship this year. And then had to play Armagh or something. Ouch!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 02, 2007, 05:06:36 PM
anything under 5'9 is small mannix,  :D i dodged that one  :D!!!You can get away with a few small forwards for sure,But not too many small backs,thats my opinion in modern day intercounty football
the Meath team is monstorous no doubt,not one member down the central positions under 6'2 and 14 stone...
No other intercounty team could compare in terms of height and weight id say,yet it didnt get them past Dublin.


Meath are reverting back to their 'core' setup of old at the moment alright but aother huge team has to be Cork. Canty, Cussen, Kavanagh, Nicholas Murphy and a whole lot of other strapping lads. And with the enmity between the sides from Billy Morgan v Sean Boylan era, there'd be almighty walloping if these sides managed to meet in the championship this year. And then had to play Armagh or something. Ouch!

Yeh - I see Meath are reverting back to their "core" alright, thuggery (see Geraghty booted of panel thread). Brings a tear to the eye ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 03, 2007, 12:41:01 PM
Poor old Golden Graham, eh? Great footballer but never lost his uncanny knack for pissing on his own chips.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 03, 2007, 10:29:04 PM
Hits the nail bang on the head!!!

http://www.cavanecho.com/pdf/pages/cav030.pdf


Although I still think we'll get a result this weekend (a positive result would be getting within 3/4 of Mayo). Wonder what the handicap is?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 03, 2007, 11:08:17 PM
Hollow man - meant to post that myself but forgot. It is a good piece and gives an insite into McElhennons opinions on why it didn't happen for him at Cavan - which until now have not been in the public arena. It is good to have some critical journalism in Cavan for a change.

The thread is gone very quiet here. Any of ye joining me in Castlebar on Saturday? I could be going mad but I reckon we have a chance as I think Mayo will almost certainly go into the game over confident - christ they went into the AI final last yr against kerry over confident if you ask me. So for me it is going to be Cavan by 2 points or Mayo by 10 points - I think which way it goes will be clear after 10 minutes of the match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 04, 2007, 12:23:36 AM
Very good article, shame it's not a bit longer because if anything it could go further. Really refreshing to see some genuine analysis and critique in Cavan GAA media, long may it continue.

It'd be a cold day in hell before the see-no-evil-hear-no-evil Anglo Celt would produce anything like that.

And actually, fair play to McElkennon for not putting a tooth in it as well. The players have hid behind the supposed inadequacies of various managers and have largely got away with swinging the lead themselves. I'd hope the jettisoning of the Yankee day trippers mark the start of a no bullshit policy with players but I won't hold my breath.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 04, 2007, 12:09:06 PM
Here lads
i think "The Bottom Line" is one of us on here or he gets his stuff from us  :D
Not for the first time hes echoing  ;) the thoughts of all of us.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 04, 2007, 01:23:16 PM
Sigh, cover blown, so alright then, it's me.... ;D

I'm actually Eamon Gaffney in disguise and the Echo column is a covert side operation where I give vent to the opinions that are just TOO DAMN HOT for the Celt!

(Joking)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 04, 2007, 02:58:18 PM
Here lads
i think "The Bottom Line" is one of us on here or he gets his stuff from us  :D
Not for the first time hes echoing  ;) the thoughts of all of us.



I'd say for "Bottom Line" read "Bottom Brick", similarity in the names,also from the same club.I may be wrong but what the hell, fair play to him for telling it like he sees it, and not as how the county board would like him to see it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 04, 2007, 04:19:22 PM
CROABH CHOMÓRTAS 2007

Thursday, 26th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Cootehill V Redhills
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Drumalee V Ramor
Venue:  Lavey

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballinagh V Bailieboro
Venue:  Stradone
Drung V Drumlane
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Arva V Maghera
Venue:  Ballymachugh
Butlersbridge V Mountnugent
Venue:  Killygarry

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Knockbride V Killygarry
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballymachugh V Lavey
Venue:  Crosserlough




Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 6pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Shercock V Killeshandra
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Munterconnacht V Templeport
Venue:  Lacken
Corlough V Cornafean
Venue:  Kildallon

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 12.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Lacken V Belturbet
Venue:  Cornafean

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 2.15pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Mullahoran V Denn
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Kingscourt V Cuchullains
Venue:  Bailieboro

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3.45pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Castlerahan V Crosserlough
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Gowna V Cavan Gaels
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Drumgoon V Kill
Venue:  Cootehill
Ballyhaise V Swadlinbar
Venue:  Drumlane

Laragh V Killinkere
Venue:  Drumalee

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Kildallon V Shannon Gaels (Sunday 3pm)
Venue:  Templeport

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 04, 2007, 04:36:14 PM
CROABH CHOMÓRTAS 2007

Thursday, 26th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Cootehill V Redhills
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Drumalee V Ramor
Venue:  Lavey

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballinagh V Bailieboro
Venue:  Stradone
Drung V Drumlane
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Arva V Maghera
Venue:  Ballymachugh
Butlersbridge V Mountnugent
Venue:  Killygarry

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Knockbride V Killygarry
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballymachugh V Lavey
Venue:  Crosserlough




Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 6pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Shercock V Killeshandra
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Munterconnacht V Templeport
Venue:  Lacken
Corlough V Cornafean
Venue:  Kildallon

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 12.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Lacken V Belturbet
Venue:  Cornafean

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 2.15pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Mullahoran V Denn
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Kingscourt V Cuchullains
Venue:  Bailieboro

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3.45pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Castlerahan V Crosserlough
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Gowna V Cavan Gaels
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Drumgoon V Kill
Venue:  Cootehill
Ballyhaise V Swadlinbar
Venue:  Drumlane

Laragh V Killinkere
Venue:  Drumalee

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Kildallon V Shannon Gaels (Sunday 3pm)
Venue:  Templeport



right what shall i attend that weekend

Thursday Cootehill,Redhills

Friday
Drung V dRUMLANE

Saturday
shercock/Killeshandra

Knockbride.Kilygarry double header in Breffini

Sunday

Playing against Swad in Drumlane at 3

will go and see Gowna/Gaels game

jaysus il be fair and broke after that weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 04, 2007, 04:43:58 PM
jaysus il be fair and broke after that weekend

i do have a card from 2006 that the club referee gave me it's great for championship time  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 05, 2007, 01:02:22 PM
Seen this on Hoganstand the last bit is good.

Idont think we have a half decent full back in the county.We havent had on since Damien O Reilly and before that Dermot Dalton in the mid 70s.Successive Team Managers dont seem to want to address the problem.Its allways left to the last minute.Itake your point about the 6ft+ Mayo full forward.that seems to be the trend this year as Cork and Kerry showed last Sunday.Kick the high ball into the tall full forward and he wins it and is able to take his score or he lays it off.Worked well last Sunday.Even GCanty of Cork was made look ordinary at times and he is one of the better full backs.Maybe if Mayo use this tactic on Saturday putting McCabe in there even for a short space of time i.e. Cavan playing against the wind would be an option.Iknow he is needed elsewhere but we dont have anyone else to contest a high ball.maybe N Walsh?We need a clean catcher in the square to ease the treat of the high ball.
RICHIE , london , 05/07/2007 at 12:04

That would be a night mare  but i think were safe enough what we have isn't great but no point in making things worse .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 05, 2007, 03:37:36 PM
Cavan v Mayo
 J Reilly; M Hannon, D Sheridan, K Fannin; R Flanagan, J Crowe, M Reilly; D McCabe, N Walsh; R Cullivan, A Forde, M McKeever; J O’Reilly, S Brady, G Pearson.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 05, 2007, 09:50:51 PM
I'd like nothing better, have family and friends in Claremorris and all, but won't make Castlebar I'm afraid. I've gotten to more Ulster SFC games this year than ever before and then the weekend of a Cavan game, I'm tied up. Typical!

I'll just have to rely on the sagely publishings of Cavan4ever, Ballyhaiseman, thatstheball etc. as well as yon reprobate anglocelt39 who I expect will wake up and post his opinion on the game fairly soon. ;)


Out of circulation for a while Maniac, just back in and finding it hard in the land of exile to get excited about this one. This whole six week break for defeated teams before the qualifiers makes it all difficult to predict what the state of minds of the teams will be. Hope we can put up a show and who knows, if that is the case the new management team will be claiming progress for the season. We've gone back a fair bit on where we were when the late Eamon Coleman was calling the shots with Marty providing backup doing what he does best. Discussions post the match will be interesting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 05, 2007, 10:38:29 PM
Yeah I suppose promotion, bit of spirit shown against Down (but with the negatives of poor fitness in some quarters and bad decisions on sideline) isn't that great a return on the year if we lose to Mayo, but if we see the emergence of a few new contenders for the team to replace the outgoing Larry and Jason et al., then it might not have been too bad. The manner of the display will indicate alot as regards the new management's effectiveness and how worhty they are of serving their full term with genuine hope of progression next season and beyond.

I expect they'll give it a rattle and frighten Mayo but in the heel of the hunt, Cavan teams are too often content with the moral victory.

Johnny Crowe, Ronan Flanagan, hopefully Dermot Sheridan and Martin Reilly would all be new players unearthed from the end of the Marty era, while Hannon, Lyng, Fannin etc. are all young yet, so that's not too bad I guess. But it's all ifs buts and maybes isn't it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on July 05, 2007, 11:29:35 PM
No Lyng, what do you make of that chaps ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 06, 2007, 10:59:37 AM
I think he was injured in the recent challenge against Fermanagh and hasn't been able to tain, hamstring I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on July 06, 2007, 10:37:04 PM
Cheers maniac, only now saw earlier posts where it was mentioned...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 06, 2007, 11:09:44 PM
Not sure yet if im going to Castlebar,can be assured of a full report Sunday if im there.

so Gallagher for Jason.

At least someone who can kick the ball off the ground,
Sean Brady is a very good player,but a free kick specialist he is not,another point of sh**y preparation for the Down game.
He has to contribute from play though,something he hasnt done in the county shirt much this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 07, 2007, 11:34:54 AM
Will the game be on any internet radio station where I can listen to commentary?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 07, 2007, 12:34:24 PM
Will the game be on any internet radio station where I can listen to commentary?

You can listen to the match on www.northernsound.ie - God help you!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 07, 2007, 03:02:00 PM
Will the game be on any internet radio station where I can listen to commentary?

You can listen to the match on www.northernsound.ie - God help you!


And you can be assured of some mind expanding revelations of very limited relevance to the game in progress, such as the hairstyle adopted by the bold Beethoven the last time I tuned into a game there. Mere detail like the score at any given time, the number of minutes played, scorers etc. tend to be a bit more elusi