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The latest Devenish special.

It's embarrassing

Convicted murder in the north good to go, alleged no case no conviction not ok?

This isn't about a specific person btw, just trying to find morally acceptable candidates

If ya didn't have a hurling scar by the age of ten, did you hurl at all?

I drive through Ballymena every morning and its great seeing all the boys and girls with the hurls

I wonder how would have Corbyn would have handled that invisible elite policy makers

They would have strangled at birth any sort of shift to nationalisation etc that he was planning.

No matter who you elect, the government is still in control.

Not with an overwhelming majority

I suppose the CIA would have overthrown him...

Should convicted murders be banned from managing?

As a rule yes.

They wouldn't pass vetting anyway

Been round many clubs in the North?

Exactly. I know 2 off the top of my head took Senior football teams having served life sentences in the kesh.

I know a few more who managed senior intercounty teams who served time in jail also 

But allegedly is a no no   

Should convicted murders be banned from managing?

As a rule yes.

They wouldn't pass vetting anyway

Been round many clubs in the North?

[What are these rules?]

Just thinking about this topic when I heard the news yesterday - I assume Kavan Keenan isn't going to play for Antrim again?

I was wrong. Obviously hit and runs must not be a big enough deal to cause any kickback.

you make a very important on this matter nrico. The clammer for RG to get pushed from his role with Derry, the subsequent interference by the President in the matter. The amount of negative posts on here and other platforms covering this was huge. For  a man not found guilty of domestic abuse, in fact it never got near the doors of a court. Yet here we have a player who was involved in an alleged crime that has got to court. Has it generated 100th of on line interest or newspaper courage?  Not remotely, selective outrage by many many in the gaa and further afield people

Is there not a safeguarding issue? A coach allegedly battering his wife over a sustained period is a bigger risk than a player doing something stupid on a once off basis.

I agree Burns, yet again, fucked this up. But there is a soft power argument. Is the GAA as an organisation entitled to Blackwall a wife beater? Should a bully of that nature be let near kids? Do we need a conviction? Where does this stop?

That should be "alleged" wife beater.
No-one in the public domain or on any internet forum knows what happened - all we know is that he was never charged with anything or taken to court.
Whereas there are cases out there where people have been charged with crimes, and indeed found guilty - but nowhere near the same uproar.

If the GAA are going to make a stance on anything, it needs to be within the rules of its own organisation and not based on internet rage.

I'm talking in general.

If someone had a laptop of child porn or a car load of heroin but they got off on a technicality, should the GAA act?

What are these rules?

Again, you are comparing a player doing something stupid once to a manager allegedly abusing his wife over years. The uproar will not be the same, but Connolly and Hayes got plenty of it.

That's my point - there are no rules and actions taken by Burns were shooting from the hip.
Absolutely agree action should be taken in safeguarding issues - but as it stands it looks like its a subjective view that is triggering action or not.
IF the GAA are going to go down this line, they need to define rules or processes and work within those confines.

The comparison I was making is that someone who was accused of a crime but not charged or taken to court was treated more severely than someone who was accused and found guilty of crime, so factually a criminal.
That doesn't sit well with me.

Managers are held to a higher standard. The alleged crime was worse. That's life.

Should convicted murders be banned from managing?

I wonder how would have Corbyn would have handled that invisible elite policy makers

I'll call a spade a spade here. When you have Managers who come in and whos sole motivation is money then you will always hit problems. It's evident both in hurling and football at the moment. They treat players as commodities and not as players. Players have walked from football set up. Likely in hurling too from what I am hearing.

Dammed if you do bring local managers who are Antrim men and dammed when you don't look at bringing outside managers that are not going to be perceived as being biased

Coming to football at club level this year.

Same happened last minute in Limerick game, it's down to the ref.

Limerick lads will get abuse for interviews in front of ad board now

The treaty county sure!

Watched RiffRaff on prime

Easy enough craic for a Sunday night

And the many thousands that booed him ffs!

Liverpool never wanted him anyways

It's only a 1 game ban

Sure take that all day then.. one's were saying more

As a Liverpool supporter would you have preferred the 3-1 loss or losing one of your better players for games?

Keepers rush of blood lost that

Fair play Haaland