'Splitting into two groups of 16 is inevitable for football'

[seafoid]

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/splitting-into-two-groups-of-16-is-inevitable-for-football-creedon-35735543.html

[rrhf]

Splitting Dublin in 2 would soon stop the blue roar!

[Jinxy]

Nope.
We either do it in 'threes', i.e. senior, intermediate & junior, or we use the existing league structure (4 divisions).
If there are only two tiers, that still leaves a lot of teams with nothing to play for.
I don't know why people are insisting on reinventing the wheel when we have structures that work perfectly well elsewhere, we just need to adopt them for the championship.

[seafoid]

Nope.
We either do it in 'threes', i.e. senior, intermediate & junior, or we use the existing league structure (4 divisions).
If there are only two tiers, that still leaves a lot of teams with nothing to play for.
I don't know why people are insisting on reinventing the wheel when we have structures that work perfectly well elsewhere, we just need to adopt them for the championship.

4*8 is too narrow. Maybe 16 and 2*8

[Syferus]

When you nose dive Laois into D4 your voice doesn't hold much weight on these issues.

[Rossfan]

Nope.
We either do it in 'threes', i.e. senior, intermediate & junior, or we use the existing league structure (4 divisions).
If there are only two tiers, that still leaves a lot of teams with nothing to play for.
I don't know why people are insisting on reinventing the wheel when we have structures that work perfectly well elsewhere, we just need to adopt them for the championship.

+1.
A structured Senior/Inter/Junior with promotion and relegation as happens in the club scene everywhere.
12/12/8 the most appropriate and base it on the  Super 8 and then NFL positions.

[From the Bunker]

Nope.
We either do it in 'threes', i.e. senior, intermediate & junior, or we use the existing league structure (4 divisions).
If there are only two tiers, that still leaves a lot of teams with nothing to play for.
I don't know why people are insisting on reinventing the wheel when we have structures that work perfectly well elsewhere, we just need to adopt them for the championship.

+1.
A structured Senior/Inter/Junior with promotion and relegation as happens in the club scene everywhere.
12/12/8 the most appropriate and base it on the  Super 8 and then NFL positions.

12/12/8 sounds the business.

Use the present Junior Championship and add the 8 into it? Would the Kerry Junior team be stronger than Leitrim, Wicklow, Carlow? If Kerry won this championship, it has to pick a new team for the following year. It would not be promoted to intermediate. A County who's 'A' team win Junior would be promoted.

[Rossfan]

First teams only.
Have a Junior B if you want to preserve the present Junior thingy.

[Syferus]

A Connacht title would mean far more to Roscommon than an Intermediate AI title. And the matches in the former would draw far more than the matches in the later.

Sin é.

[Lar Naparka]

A Connacht title would mean far more to Roscommon than an Intermediate AI title. And the matches in the former would draw far more than the matches in the later.

Sin é.

That's the rub Syf. Tradition is the immovable mass and the changing times are the unstoppable force.
I'm afraid the  physicists got a problem here as the immovable force ain't going nowhere. Of course Ross would prefer a Connacht Title above any amount of mickey mouse new competitions and Kerry and Cork wouldn't do away with their Munster finals and the list goes on and on...
Seriously, we do need some radical change or we're on the last bus to nowhere  but tradition is the stumbling block that can't be moved.
So we can talk about change but there will be none I'm afraid.

[mayoaremagic]

A Connacht title would mean far more to Roscommon than an Intermediate AI title. And the matches in the former would draw far more than the matches in the later.

Sin é.

Roscommon lads would have a better chance of winning a naked pool competition than Connacht title this year.

[seafoid]

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-orourke-we-can-look-forward-to-lots-more-drivel-until-structure-is-changed-35763070.html

[Avondhu star]

A Connacht title would mean far more to Roscommon than an Intermediate AI title. And the matches in the former would draw far more than the matches in the later.

Sin é.

Roscommon lads would have a better chance of winning a naked pool competition than Connacht title this year.

Mayoaremagic. Thats right. Just watch them make Sam disappear at the sight of a Dublin or Kerry jersey

[Catch and Kick]

A two tier championship will be the final nail in the coffin for the GAA in the counties in the 2nd tier. THEY ALREADY HAVE A LEAGUE BASED ON PERFORMANCES AND DO NOT WANT ANOTHER COMPETITION PLAYING THE SAME TEAMS. Is it that hard for people to grasp?
Every team sport in the world is dominated by 3/4 teams and everyone plays for pride.  The GAA is based on local rivalries and that pride is of even more significance.
We do not need more competitions - we need the league played in better weather, perhaps at the same time as the championship. Shorten the season, stop chasing money and restore the importance of club activity where county players can take meaningful part.
Provincial titles provide 4 opportunities to counties to win a significant competition; granted Leinster is under the cosh of Dublin but too may of the Leinster counties are accepting it as a fait accompli and are beaten before they start. You have to take you that off to Westmeath who have reached the last two finals and were competitive for first  35 minutes each year. Bigger counties like Meath and Kildare should be more capable of taking on the Dubs and if they did the Leinster Championship would be in pretty good health.

[lenny]

A two tier championship will be the final nail in the coffin for the GAA in the counties in the 2nd tier. THEY ALREADY HAVE A LEAGUE BASED ON PERFORMANCES AND DO NOT WANT ANOTHER COMPETITION PLAYING THE SAME TEAMS. Is it that hard for people to grasp?
Every team sport in the world is dominated by 3/4 teams and everyone plays for pride.  The GAA is based on local rivalries and that pride is of even more significance.
We do not need more competitions - we need the league played in better weather, perhaps at the same time as the championship. Shorten the season, stop chasing money and restore the importance of club activity where county players can take meaningful part.
Provincial titles provide 4 opportunities to counties to win a significant competition; granted Leinster is under the cosh of Dublin but too may of the Leinster counties are accepting it as a fait accompli and are beaten before they start. You have to take you that off to Westmeath who have reached the last two finals and were competitive for first  35 minutes each year. Bigger counties like Meath and Kildare should be more capable of taking on the Dubs and if they did the Leinster Championship would be in pretty good health.

You're correct, we don't need a 2 tier championship, we need a 3 tier championship. It works perfectly at club level and there is absolutely no reason why it wouldn't be a great success at county level. The ulster championship used to be very competitive with nearly all games hard to predict and never was ther too much in games. Nowadays we are seeing 3 counties who are well out on their own and the 3 matches so far have been complete mismatches. How can games like today be of interest to most supporters?