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Fair play Jimbo . . .

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/james-nesbitt-wants-new-union-of-ireland-as-he-reveals-project-to-give-voice-to-silent-majority-38287899.html

Talks about a lot of what we've been on about above. "Former" Unionists embracing the inevitable and trying to make a new inclusive society work for everyone!

Only a matter of time before he is 'lundified' and he will probably have the distinction of appearing on some bonfires next year.

It's no coincidence that educated young protestants are often the more progressive in society. Think of the Rory Best, James Nesbitt, Stephen Ferris, Andrew Trimble types. People who have seen a bit of the world instead of being stuck in an insular bubble and howling at the moon from within the 6 counties. Meanwhile those who come from more disadvantaged areas are fed a diet of hatred and sectarianism facilitated by their elected representatives most of whom are simply feathering their own nests and seeking to maintain a level of power and control.   

Not starrting any 'lundification' of Jimmy Nesbitt, but I struggle to see why anyone would pay a blind bit of notice about what he says.  He also seems to stop short of saying where he stands on a border poll, so seems a bit of a non story to me.

Also, somewhat of a sweeping generalisation where you seem to demonise all working class protestant people.  People like Carl Frampton would not fit the stereotype you are pushing above.  Be curious to know if you actually know or work with many Protestant people from disdavantaged areas.

[British]

The thing is, "Unapologetically British" in a 6 county context tends to mean being a belligerent, intransigent, right wing, anti-Irish supremacist.

The brass neck of DUP and other Loyalist politicians bemoaning one single bonfire in Derry when it's exactly the same thing they get up to every July on a much larger scale is almost unbelievable.  Loyalist culture seems to be sacred - you can't challenge, criticise or oppose it without them going into full siege mentality.

There are many thousands of British, Unionist people who aren't belligerent, intransigent, right wing etc.  A lot of people on here tend to tar all Unionists with the same loyalist brush.

Two girls playing for the occupied six who didn't belt out GSTQ. Disgraceful. Off with their heads!

Neither did Kenny

Plenty of fans don't either - It's not compulsary!

Lest we forget, a good lot of the male pundits are utter pish!

Well what's the verdict on the first day?

Didn't see as much as I'd like thought Sam Fender was very good and was showing my age with Billie Eilish she's not my cup of tea at all really.

Those who like her seemed to enjoy the show though.

Same as that screen. Thought Sam fender was excellent. He will be back headlining in a few years

Thought Jesus and Mary Chaine were pretty good. Agree re Billie Eilish - Music not my bag, lacking in tunes. Quite likable stage persona though / seems like a nice, not too diva ish, performer.

But still a number of catholics played for N Ireland after that night.

And pretty much all of all Ireland celebrated NI's progress in the 1982, and to a lesser degree the 1986, WCs. Really sad that some folk on here cannot show respect to a (Northern) Irish man who brought a lot of joy to the whole of the island during a grim time.  Billy Bingham, as far as I am aware, had a catholic friend as his 'Best Man', and was hugely respected by all players, from whatever community, during his time as NI Manager. You only need to listen to the tributes from Martin O'Neill. Gerry Armstrong etc, to hear how well though thought of and respected that he was, from all of the players that he managed. RIP Billy Bingham.

Given six months to live. That's three months each.

Crass comment - Lifted from the YBIG site? No 'funny' comments yourself?

[Looked at your profile. Everton fan.]

Season that started with the agent Rafa shouts, end's with agent Carlo 😎

A season that end in 2 trophies. Looked at your profile. Everton fan.
Is celebrating two trophies better or worse than celebrating just about surviving in the League ?

Ever thought of a career in CID? Was Sheedy not a bit ot a clue?

Cathal Coughan.
Microdisney and Fatima Mansions fame.

Long illness aged 61.

Very sad news.  Hugely talented guy.  Viva Dead Ponies was a tremendous album.  Never got chance to see them live unfortunately. Looked amzing when you look back at old performances on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_BogtOg-W0

RIP Cathal Coughlan

Keep Music Evil!

[Contributing through employment earning a wage and paying taxes will at the very least improve the country...]

Would you just open the floodgates Johnneycool? No limits? The more the merrier ?

If it's not already immigration should be encouraged, obviously it needs looked at in terms of the just having people here that live off the social payments. Contributing through employment earning a wage and paying taxes will at the very least improve the country...

It's getting jimmy up the street who complains about immigrants stealing his job, (that he never had in the first place) and getting him to find a job, but it needs to be slightly better than the benefits he gets for doing nothing.

As Johnny says taxing the ultra rich would be a good start, not allowing companies like Apple and Google get away with tax breaks would also be a good start.

And controversially we are over populated in terms of families with four or five kids, I grew up in a house of 9! How my parents afforded things I'll never know, but we had little outgoings then, how families afford things now with all the current demands is crazy!

Btw I'm not saying do a China lol

Part of the problem is that asylum seekers are unabvle to work for up to a year or more before they are given refugee status - Through my work I have come across a lot of really capable and motivated guys who are desperate to get working but aren't able to due to the red tape and bureaucracy that holds up the process.

The food in the Kremlin is underrated. I've often left stuffed to the gills and sometimes all I've had is something plain like toad in the hole surprise. The Sunday carvery is to die for and the stuffing is irresistible. Desserts are brilliant. The cream is something you'll never taste anywhere else. For a starter I often have a corn on the cob.

What age are you ffs

[Conlon is just too hard to follow]

Tiny percentage of Irish people subscribe to DAZN

If he was on RTE tonight, he'd be as high profile as Bernard Dunne at his peak. Bernard didn't have the profile of peak Barry McGuigan but was pretty much a household name at that time.

But for the ordinary Irish sports follower, of which there are many many looking to jump on any bandwagon, Conlon is just too hard to follow. If he was even on Sky Sports, there'd be plenty looking out for him.

So the Kinahan connection, if there is one, is moot. Not enough people know about Conlon's professional career to care about any Kinahan influence.

Perhaps his pro IRA ballix has something to do with it.

Explain how he's pro IRA.

The Ooh Aah up the Ra ring walk tune might have something to do with it.

Aw Jesus dry your eyes

The discussion was around his profile and why he was hard to follow.  Safe to say Frampton would not have been as popoular if he came on to Simply the Best draped in a NI flag.

Aye I'm sure he's bothered that you think he's hard to follow or that boys like you don't think he's popular.  I don't think he's hard to follow.
Frampton goes to 12th parades and runs about in rangers tops. Conlan does what suits him too. What's your point.

I though that was fairly obvious. My point is he would have much broader appeal if he tried to appeal to both sides of the commiunity and would not be hidden away on DAZN or whatever channel it was on.  He would also have bigger purses and be able to set himself up for life.  It's not rocket science ffs.

Even if he did adopt a more neutral stance, I can't imagine the GAWA/OWC mob would be in a rush to support a Catholic from West Belfast.

Not sure what you are basing that on when a catholic from Monaghan and a catholic from Larne, during the height of The Troubles, had universal support across NI, including the 'GAWA/OWC mob' as you put it.  Sorry if that doesn't fit the 'All Prods are bigots' narrative.

[Conlon is just too hard to follow]

Tiny percentage of Irish people subscribe to DAZN

If he was on RTE tonight, he'd be as high profile as Bernard Dunne at his peak. Bernard didn't have the profile of peak Barry McGuigan but was pretty much a household name at that time.

But for the ordinary Irish sports follower, of which there are many many looking to jump on any bandwagon, Conlon is just too hard to follow. If he was even on Sky Sports, there'd be plenty looking out for him.

So the Kinahan connection, if there is one, is moot. Not enough people know about Conlon's professional career to care about any Kinahan influence.

Perhaps his pro IRA ballix has something to do with it.

Explain how he's pro IRA.

The Ooh Aah up the Ra ring walk tune might have something to do with it.

Aw Jesus dry your eyes

The discussion was around his profile and why he was hard to follow.  Safe to say Frampton would not have been as popoular if he came on to Simply the Best draped in a NI flag.

Aye I'm sure he's bothered that you think he's hard to follow or that boys like you don't think he's popular.  I don't think he's hard to follow.
Frampton goes to 12th parades and runs about in rangers tops. Conlan does what suits him too. What's your point.

I though that was fairly obvious. My point is he would have much broader appeal if he tried to appeal to both sides of the commiunity and would not be hidden away on DAZN or whatever channel it was on.  He would also have bigger purses and be able to set himself up for life.  It's not rocket science ffs.

[Conlon is just too hard to follow]

Tiny percentage of Irish people subscribe to DAZN

If he was on RTE tonight, he'd be as high profile as Bernard Dunne at his peak. Bernard didn't have the profile of peak Barry McGuigan but was pretty much a household name at that time.

But for the ordinary Irish sports follower, of which there are many many looking to jump on any bandwagon, Conlon is just too hard to follow. If he was even on Sky Sports, there'd be plenty looking out for him.

So the Kinahan connection, if there is one, is moot. Not enough people know about Conlon's professional career to care about any Kinahan influence.

Perhaps his pro IRA ballix has something to do with it.

Explain how he's pro IRA.

The Ooh Aah up the Ra ring walk tune might have something to do with it.

Aw Jesus dry your eyes

The discussion was around his profile and why he was hard to follow.  Safe to say Frampton would not have been as popoular if he came on to Simply the Best draped in a NI flag. 

[Conlon is just too hard to follow]

Tiny percentage of Irish people subscribe to DAZN

If he was on RTE tonight, he'd be as high profile as Bernard Dunne at his peak. Bernard didn't have the profile of peak Barry McGuigan but was pretty much a household name at that time.

But for the ordinary Irish sports follower, of which there are many many looking to jump on any bandwagon, Conlon is just too hard to follow. If he was even on Sky Sports, there'd be plenty looking out for him.

So the Kinahan connection, if there is one, is moot. Not enough people know about Conlon's professional career to care about any Kinahan influence.

Perhaps his pro IRA ballix has something to do with it.

Explain how he's pro IRA.

The Ooh Aah up the Ra ring walk tune might have something to do with it.