Diesel, petrol, oil price watch

[armaghniac]

What sort Ss if u dont mind me asking?

BMW X1

Has taken me all over Ireland following Longford. High speed chargers are becoming more and more available. For example, when Longford played Antrim a few weeks ago, I went a bit early and fully charged the car up there while I had my lunch before the match. The full charge cost about €20. A full tank of petheral would have been...........what.......€70?

A lot more than that I'd say. Well, nowadays anyway.

In Antrim €70 would have sufficed.

[Armagh18]

Just bumping this thread as probably better place than the wtf thread for discussing protests.

[Armagh18]

BB2, I would say blocking any and all traffic (exceptions for ambulances obviously) is a valid form of protest. Not sure how else the government will pay any heed.

[marty34]

Just bumping this thread as probably better place than the wtf thread for discussing protests.

Fair point Armagh18.

[Baile Brigín 2]

BB2, I would say blocking any and all traffic (exceptions for ambulances obviously) is a valid form of protest. Not sure how else the government will pay any heed.

I fundamentally agree with the right to protest. Everyone agrees the goverment needs to act, which they were doing.

But blockading a fuel terminal, limiting supply to pumps, in a protest against fuel prices is braindead.

Stopping people getting to work is braindead.

Targeting hospitals is criminal.

This is not about petrol prices anymore. The government have had to roll back support to not be seen to give in. Suspiciously braindead in fact.

This is pure Yellow Vest nonsense.

[Louther]

BB2, I would say blocking any and all traffic (exceptions for ambulances obviously) is a valid form of protest. Not sure how else the government will pay any heed.

Yes. An acceptable protest in causing disruption but it has moved on from that. They totally blocking roads and causing serious traffic congestion for emergency services, there isn't a hard shoulder everywhere for ambulances. They blocking refineries which will lead to fuel shortages. They blocking filling stations. There is a right to protest and also a right to work and live as normal.

But no national trade or work organisation is involved - the road haulage association, ISME or the IFA. So who is deciding what is acceptable or sits at a table. Its been effective in getting numbers in place for sure but the people been put in front for a camera have a very dubious motivation and anytime they start talking in veers into immigration, general taxes and getting rid of a government. It doesn't stay on point long, so how can you negotiate with that and with who?

They had some boy on a talk show last night who couldn't even answer questions about emergency services and if they ran out of fuel it wasn't there doing despite him saying they'd block the refineries and deliveries getting out. Then he give out about been asked questions.

Protest by all means but have boundaries and keep support on your side.

And the government as bad with their response and mentioning the defence forces. The struggle to connect when they've a response to make and miss sitters from 2 yards out somehow.

[Rossfan]

Absolute morons.
Made their point Tuesday but turning towards mob rule now.
Diesel obviously not too dear to burn driving slowly around the roads of Ireland and they can afford days with no income.

And of course "Independent Ireland" and Aontú like shivers looking for a spine to crawl up (as some politicians was once described)

[tyroneStatto]

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

[Rossfan]

And as Louther intimates nazifascist elements probably involved somewhere.

[Baile Brigín 2]

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

The grownups in the unions and trade associations were getting subsidies.

Now that is stopped. The government cannot cave in to these unknown activists.

[RedHand88]

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

Raise it with your local TD, hold a town hall, social media is a completely free platform if they want to use that.

Blocking ambulances is just throwing the dummy out of the pram because you aren't getting your way.
Great to see people driving up the hard shoulder to get around these fools.
Looking at the protests I'm not even sure it's about the price of fuel anymore.

[Armagh18]

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

Raise it with your local TD, hold a town hall, social media is a completely free platform if they want to use that.

Blocking ambulances is just throwing the dummy out of the pram because you aren't getting your way.
Great to see people driving up the hard shoulder to get around these fools.
Looking at the protests I'm not even sure it's about the price of fuel anymore.

f**k me yeah that'll help the thing....

[Louther]

On the TD, Paul Murphy (who is generally have no time for) went to O'Connell Bridge yesterday to show support. He was basically ran from the place, they didnt want to listen to him or engage with him but just wanted to shout at him about all the things that wasn't related to a fuel protest.

[Baile Brigín 2]

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

Raise it with your local TD, hold a town hall, social media is a completely free platform if they want to use that.

Blocking ambulances is just throwing the dummy out of the pram because you aren't getting your way.
Great to see people driving up the hard shoulder to get around these fools.
Looking at the protests I'm not even sure it's about the price of fuel anymore.

f**k me yeah that'll help the thing....

Did you miss the bit where tax was reduced? We can argue how much or how quickly it was happening, but they were moving on it.

Do you honestly think this is about fuel?

[Captain Scarlet]

I agree with protesting but there are a lot of chiefs on this one and there are plenty of lads going rogue and doing their own thing.

On Liveline a woman was saying how the hard shoulder down around Waterford (I think) was blocked and the protester said it wasn't and then said it shouldn't have happened. He was stopping just short of calling her a liar but he was in Dublin and could have no clue what another group have done.
The same man said he had to sleep in his tractor as it wasn't safe to leave it unattended. It cost €250,000 he told us!

I lost them yesterday when they blocked the diversion routes for busses. Like you have the blockade on O'Connell St, so why then shut down all public transport?

Also these lads are mostly farming contractors, so not the poor aul farmers that they are painting themselves as. If other people were blocking roads at the height of silage season they'd drive over them!

They should encircle the Dáil and every county council in the country.