McCarthy admits he does not have backing of Cork hurlers

Started by Minder, October 23, 2008, 09:44:10 PM

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Reillers

Quote from: orangeman on November 19, 2008, 01:27:08 PM
Quote from: Reillers on November 18, 2008, 07:24:36 PM
We'll all loose except the board, unless Frank Murphy and Co. resign. The fans will loose if the players walk. Cork GAA will loose if Gerald stays, not because Gerald is such a bad manager but because the board will have complete control and the players will also loose out and if Gerald walks he'll loose out.

What do I think is the solution, Gerald, Frank Murphy and about 4/5 players should all walk away. It's the only will Cork hurling will win. Other then that, the only winners will be the board.

Ye don't see that, ye want all the players to be "put in their place" if Gerald wins, we all loose.

That way, the way I suggested, is the only way everyone will be happy.


Why should Frank resign ?

If he is as powerful as you say he is, then one of his subordinates will take over and nothing will have changed ??


Is Sully not near the end of his tether as a player anyway and given some of his poor displays this year and given that Mc Carthy kept faith with him when manys another manager would have dumped him, why is Sully getting involved ?

Because he's THE biggest problem in Cork GAA. If he went and someone like Jim Forbes took over you'd see the transformation. Murphy is obsessed, he wants one thing and one thing only, complete revenge and complete control..nothing else will do. 4 AI finals wasn't enough. He wants complete control and reappointing Gerald was the way hed get it.
The question isn't why should Frank resign, it's more of why hasn't he all ready. We wont be able to move on, Cork GAA as a whole will stay at a stand still until Murphy stands down.
"It's a county board which insists on lumbering players with a manager for whom the help of a facilitator was needed to get through last season. It is siding with a county board who took a process agreed on in arbitration earlier this year and used it as a weapon in an ongoing vendetta against its own players."

The board only has one agenda, we all know what it is. The people who deny that are in serious denial or are seriously biased.

heffo

Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 05:21:45 PM
Long gone..no, just walk away, away from this. They said, they are after walking away They said if Gerald stays on they wont play, which is walking away. But they are not going with aout a fight If they leave the board wins. Now that would be the worst thng to ever happen to Cork gaa. They are doing this with the best interest of the young lads. But if they can't get a result they'll walk away. Which is a sacrific they are willing to male.

I don't think ye fully get that. 

So they're on strike so?

Reillers


Reillers

Quote from: orangeman on November 19, 2008, 02:36:13 PM
Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: heffo on November 19, 2008, 01:51:22 PM
Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 12:16:09 AM
No, they're not but it's like, they're figure heads, they are seen as the ones leading it, it would settle a lot of problems with the media and board, because to them they are the ones leading it. They are big names who were all involved in 2002, players who the board have fierce problems with.

They'd willingly take that sacrifice, they'd walk away for the good of Cork GAA..Gerald Mac and CCB wont. It tells it all I think.

If that were true, then they would have walked weeks ago and not be giving daily updates to the media

And if reports are to be believed, then they wouldn't be phoning other players who've been contacted, telling them not to cross the imaginary picket line..

They've talked to the media 3/4 times. Gerald at one stage was on the radio every day.
Now They are fighting for the good of Cork GAA, but they are willing to walk away in the end if it's for the best. If someone turned around and said that Gerald, Frank Murphy would step down if 4 or 5 of the main senior core walked away, they'd willingly do it, the same can't be said about Gerald and Mr. Murphy.



3/4 times ?????? You're not being honest here Reillers and you know that.
Ben, Donal Og, the full statement, Tom Kenny
That's 4 statements.

heffo

Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 05:47:08 PM
No they're not on strike. They've walked away.

You just said in your previous post:

"they are not going without a fight.....They are doing this with the best interest of the young lads. But if they can't get a result they'll walk away. "

It's pretty clear that they haven't walked away and are effectively on strike. They are withdrawing their services and are going to pressure anyone who attempts to represent Cork hurling, to join them 'in support'..

Reillers

No, they're going out, but they're not going out quietly.

theskull1

Strike

Definition
A work stoppage undertaken in support of a bargaining position or in protest of some aspect of a previous agreement or proposed agreement between labor and management.

Hopefully this will help those who don't understand what a strike means


It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Reillers

Not playing again-retiring, what part of that don't you understand.
They will not play again. If it happens that a new manager comes in and asks them to play then they will, but as of a few weeks ago, they've all walked away.

orangeman

I guarantee that Mc Carthy will be in charge next year and that they'll all be playing for him.


Did anyone hear the news that next year's grant might not be paid ? Cost cutting by the government ?

Has this anything to do with the strike ?

ExiledGael

Latest reports saying Jerry O'Sullivan will be the next chairman of the Cork county board, father of Diarmuid & Paudie, after all the other candidates withdrew. Any significance in this?
Is this the same O'Sullivan who managed the Munster inter-pro team a few years back?

Reillers

Quote from: orangeman on November 19, 2008, 07:03:15 PM
I guarantee that Mc Carthy will be in charge next year and that they'll all be playing for him.


Did anyone hear the news that next year's grant might not be paid ? Cost cutting by the government ?

Has this anything to do with the strike ?

Are you serious..paranoia at it's highest. Something tells me that it's got more to do with the economy.


Reillers

Quote from: ExiledGael on November 19, 2008, 07:21:37 PM
Latest reports saying Jerry O'Sullivan will be the next chairman of the Cork county board, father of Diarmuid & Paudie, after all the other candidates withdrew. Any significance in this?
Is this the same O'Sullivan who managed the Munster inter-pro team a few years back?

There was a meeting, for 2 hours, and still no statement. But that seems to be the word on the street that JOS is the new chairman.

heffo

Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 06:55:57 PM
Not playing again-retiring, what part of that don't you understand.
They will not play again. If it happens that a new manager comes in and asks them to play then they will, but as of a few weeks ago, they've all walked away.


They haven't walked away though - they are on strike - a rose by any other name and all that...

theskull1

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Quote from: heffo on November 19, 2008, 08:23:13 PM
Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 06:55:57 PM
Not playing again-retiring, what part of that don't you understand.
They will not play again. If it happens that a new manager comes in and asks them to play then they will, but as of a few weeks ago, they've all walked away.


They haven't walked away though - they are on strike - a rose by any other name and all that...

Or in other words
If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

orangeman

How can they appoint a new chairman until the AGM is convened - anyway Frank is the secretary is he not ?