McCarthy admits he does not have backing of Cork hurlers

Started by Minder, October 23, 2008, 09:44:10 PM

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orangeman

Did Jimmy Barry, Allen and O'Grady in their time in charge all pick the right men ?

witnof

They can't just pick and choose who they want to play for.

Orangeman...seems too sensible a suggestion for Crok.

orangeman

Why didn't Mc Carthy put forward his selectors last night ?

Reillers

He hasn't picked them yet. He wants more time, we've only got Teddy Mac as confirmed by Gerald, he still has to be rattified.

belleaqua

Reillers, do you think Gerald McCarthy should step down? (presume its an immediate yes) What will Cork hurling (not current Cork hurlers) gain in the medium to long term if thats the case?

orangeman

Quote from: Reillers on November 18, 2008, 07:24:36 PM
We'll all loose except the board, unless Frank Murphy and Co. resign. The fans will loose if the players walk. Cork GAA will loose if Gerald stays, not because Gerald is such a bad manager but because the board will have complete control and the players will also loose out and if Gerald walks he'll loose out.

What do I think is the solution, Gerald, Frank Murphy and about 4/5 players should all walk away. It's the only will Cork hurling will win. Other then that, the only winners will be the board.

Ye don't see that, ye want all the players to be "put in their place" if Gerald wins, we all loose.

That way, the way I suggested, is the only way everyone will be happy.


Why should Frank resign ?

If he is as powerful as you say he is, then one of his subordinates will take over and nothing will have changed ??


Is Sully not near the end of his tether as a player anyway and given some of his poor displays this year and given that Mc Carthy kept faith with him when manys another manager would have dumped him, why is Sully getting involved ?

heffo

Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 12:16:09 AM
No, they're not but it's like, they're figure heads, they are seen as the ones leading it, it would settle a lot of problems with the media and board, because to them they are the ones leading it. They are big names who were all involved in 2002, players who the board have fierce problems with.

They'd willingly take that sacrifice, they'd walk away for the good of Cork GAA..Gerald Mac and CCB wont. It tells it all I think.

If that were true, then they would have walked weeks ago and not be giving daily updates to the media

And if reports are to be believed, then they wouldn't be phoning other players who've been contacted, telling them not to cross the imaginary picket line..

Reillers

Quote from: heffo on November 19, 2008, 01:51:22 PM
Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 12:16:09 AM
No, they're not but it's like, they're figure heads, they are seen as the ones leading it, it would settle a lot of problems with the media and board, because to them they are the ones leading it. They are big names who were all involved in 2002, players who the board have fierce problems with.

They'd willingly take that sacrifice, they'd walk away for the good of Cork GAA..Gerald Mac and CCB wont. It tells it all I think.

If that were true, then they would have walked weeks ago and not be giving daily updates to the media

And if reports are to be believed, then they wouldn't be phoning other players who've been contacted, telling them not to cross the imaginary picket line..

They've talked to the media 3/4 times. Gerald at one stage was on the radio every day.
Now They are fighting for the good of Cork GAA, but they are willing to walk away in the end if it's for the best. If someone turned around and said that Gerald, Frank Murphy would step down if 4 or 5 of the main senior core walked away, they'd willingly do it, the same can't be said about Gerald and Mr. Murphy.

orangeman

Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: heffo on November 19, 2008, 01:51:22 PM
Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 12:16:09 AM
No, they're not but it's like, they're figure heads, they are seen as the ones leading it, it would settle a lot of problems with the media and board, because to them they are the ones leading it. They are big names who were all involved in 2002, players who the board have fierce problems with.

They'd willingly take that sacrifice, they'd walk away for the good of Cork GAA..Gerald Mac and CCB wont. It tells it all I think.

If that were true, then they would have walked weeks ago and not be giving daily updates to the media

And if reports are to be believed, then they wouldn't be phoning other players who've been contacted, telling them not to cross the imaginary picket line..

They've talked to the media 3/4 times. Gerald at one stage was on the radio every day.
Now They are fighting for the good of Cork GAA, but they are willing to walk away in the end if it's for the best. If someone turned around and said that Gerald, Frank Murphy would step down if 4 or 5 of the main senior core walked away, they'd willingly do it, the same can't be said about Gerald and Mr. Murphy.



3/4 times ?????? You're not being honest here Reillers and you know that.

heffo

Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: heffo on November 19, 2008, 01:51:22 PM
Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 12:16:09 AM
No, they're not but it's like, they're figure heads, they are seen as the ones leading it, it would settle a lot of problems with the media and board, because to them they are the ones leading it. They are big names who were all involved in 2002, players who the board have fierce problems with.

They'd willingly take that sacrifice, they'd walk away for the good of Cork GAA..Gerald Mac and CCB wont. It tells it all I think.

If that were true, then they would have walked weeks ago and not be giving daily updates to the media

And if reports are to be believed, then they wouldn't be phoning other players who've been contacted, telling them not to cross the imaginary picket line..

They've talked to the media 3/4 times. Gerald at one stage was on the radio every day.
Now They are fighting for the good of Cork GAA, but they are willing to walk away in the end if it's for the best. If someone turned around and said that Gerald, Frank Murphy would step down if 4 or 5 of the main senior core walked away, they'd willingly do it, the same can't be said about Gerald and Mr. Murphy.


I respect your point and believe that you want whats best for Cork hurling, but if they really meant what they said, they'd be long gone - they would have made their point in a press release, followed up with a clarification interview and announced that was the end of the matter - they weren't happy to continue committing to a 'mickey mouse' setup.

Instead we have a stand off which is more akin to a strike - all they had to do if they wanted people to support them is say that they were making themselves unavailable until such time as the process changes and McCarthy goes, and that there will be no further interviews or comments to the press.

That's why 99% of GAA people in the country don't support them.

orangeman

Quote from: heffo on November 19, 2008, 03:30:22 PM
Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: heffo on November 19, 2008, 01:51:22 PM
Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 12:16:09 AM
No, they're not but it's like, they're figure heads, they are seen as the ones leading it, it would settle a lot of problems with the media and board, because to them they are the ones leading it. They are big names who were all involved in 2002, players who the board have fierce problems with.

They'd willingly take that sacrifice, they'd walk away for the good of Cork GAA..Gerald Mac and CCB wont. It tells it all I think.

If that were true, then they would have walked weeks ago and not be giving daily updates to the media

And if reports are to be believed, then they wouldn't be phoning other players who've been contacted, telling them not to cross the imaginary picket line..

They've talked to the media 3/4 times. Gerald at one stage was on the radio every day.
Now They are fighting for the good of Cork GAA, but they are willing to walk away in the end if it's for the best. If someone turned around and said that Gerald, Frank Murphy would step down if 4 or 5 of the main senior core walked away, they'd willingly do it, the same can't be said about Gerald and Mr. Murphy.


I respect your point and believe that you want whats best for Cork hurling, but if they really meant what they said, they'd be long gone - they would have made their point in a press release, followed up with a clarification interview and announced that was the end of the matter - they weren't happy to continue committing to a 'mickey mouse' setup.

Instead we have a stand off which is more akin to a strike - all they had to do if they wanted people to support them is say that they were making themselves unavailable until such time as the process changes and McCarthy goes, and that there will be no further interviews or comments to the press.

That's why 99% of GAA people in the country don't support them.
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I think you'll find someone disagreeing with that statistic !  ;)

heffo

Quote from: orangeman on November 19, 2008, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: heffo on November 19, 2008, 03:30:22 PM
Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: heffo on November 19, 2008, 01:51:22 PM
Quote from: Reillers on November 19, 2008, 12:16:09 AM
No, they're not but it's like, they're figure heads, they are seen as the ones leading it, it would settle a lot of problems with the media and board, because to them they are the ones leading it. They are big names who were all involved in 2002, players who the board have fierce problems with.

They'd willingly take that sacrifice, they'd walk away for the good of Cork GAA..Gerald Mac and CCB wont. It tells it all I think.

If that were true, then they would have walked weeks ago and not be giving daily updates to the media

And if reports are to be believed, then they wouldn't be phoning other players who've been contacted, telling them not to cross the imaginary picket line..

They've talked to the media 3/4 times. Gerald at one stage was on the radio every day.
Now They are fighting for the good of Cork GAA, but they are willing to walk away in the end if it's for the best. If someone turned around and said that Gerald, Frank Murphy would step down if 4 or 5 of the main senior core walked away, they'd willingly do it, the same can't be said about Gerald and Mr. Murphy.


I respect your point and believe that you want whats best for Cork hurling, but if they really meant what they said, they'd be long gone - they would have made their point in a press release, followed up with a clarification interview and announced that was the end of the matter - they weren't happy to continue committing to a 'mickey mouse' setup.

Instead we have a stand off which is more akin to a strike - all they had to do if they wanted people to support them is say that they were making themselves unavailable until such time as the process changes and McCarthy goes, and that there will be no further interviews or comments to the press.

That's why 99% of GAA people in the country don't support them.
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I think you'll find someone disagreeing with that statistic !  ;)

You leave Sean Óg outta this!



Reillers

Long gone..no, just walk away, away from this. They said, they are after walking away They said if Gerald stays on they wont play, which is walking away. But they are not going with aout a fight If they leave the board wins. Now that would be the worst thng to ever happen to Cork gaa. They are doing this with the best interest of the young lads. But if they can't get a result they'll walk away. Which is a sacrific they are willing to male.

I don't think ye fully get that.