McCarthy admits he does not have backing of Cork hurlers

[Reillers]

Are you serious??..You said you know a fair bit about Cork hurling and how it's run.

He was a sub against Tipp, and came on as a sub against Galway and played against Clare instead of Timmy Mac who was injured. He played against Dublin as well I think, and in the League. Really promising player.
Came on against Galway, you think it would be overwhelming for the lad, but no, not at all, you swear he'd been on the team for years. Confidence has never been a problem with Cork teams, it's bred into them. He looked like he'd been part of the team for many years. The team is so good like that, they're a family basically, they make the new kids feel like they've been around for years, that basically means that there's very little transition for the kids, which makes it so much easier.
He was part of the team that beat Galway. That was some day.
That game, from all of the Cork lads.."It was simply inspiring stuff that left Cork supporters shaking with pride at the final whistle."
People question if the Cork players care, but like I challenge anyone to watch the Galway Cork game and tell me that they don't care. Donal Og called for them, it was time to see who cared, for all to give some and some to give all..and they did.

Anyway..

He'll be some serious player given the chance, as will Naughton, and Sully Og has so much potential as well. There's a fair chunk of them who could be real stars. Not to mention guys who aren't on the team who should be..but aren't, and why, because of bloody politics.

Politics ?

Player politics or player power ?


PLAYER POWER -

Neither nothing to do with the players.
You don't know what you're talking about. I thought you did for a while but then not so much any more.
It's got to do with politics of the selection of players. Players that should be picked but aren't. Nothing at all to do with the players..AT ALL.

It's Monday ! And another change of tactics !


So it's nothing to do with the players - it's all to do with players that aren't being picked. Holy Jesus, what next ? 

What are you on about. A change of tactics?? It's always been that way, you said you had some clue of how it works, why do you keep asking these stupid questions that are commonly known.

For years, YEARS players that should have been picked weren't being picked. Common knowledge..in Cork anyway.

[orangeman]

Are you serious??..You said you know a fair bit about Cork hurling and how it's run.

He was a sub against Tipp, and came on as a sub against Galway and played against Clare instead of Timmy Mac who was injured. He played against Dublin as well I think, and in the League. Really promising player.
Came on against Galway, you think it would be overwhelming for the lad, but no, not at all, you swear he'd been on the team for years. Confidence has never been a problem with Cork teams, it's bred into them. He looked like he'd been part of the team for many years. The team is so good like that, they're a family basically, they make the new kids feel like they've been around for years, that basically means that there's very little transition for the kids, which makes it so much easier.
He was part of the team that beat Galway. That was some day.
That game, from all of the Cork lads.."It was simply inspiring stuff that left Cork supporters shaking with pride at the final whistle."
People question if the Cork players care, but like I challenge anyone to watch the Galway Cork game and tell me that they don't care. Donal Og called for them, it was time to see who cared, for all to give some and some to give all..and they did.

Anyway..

He'll be some serious player given the chance, as will Naughton, and Sully Og has so much potential as well. There's a fair chunk of them who could be real stars. Not to mention guys who aren't on the team who should be..but aren't, and why, because of bloody politics.

Politics ?

Player politics or player power ?


PLAYER POWER -

Neither nothing to do with the players.
You don't know what you're talking about. I thought you did for a while but then not so much any more.
It's got to do with politics of the selection of players. Players that should be picked but aren't. Nothing at all to do with the players..AT ALL.

It's Monday ! And another change of tactics !


So it's nothing to do with the players - it's all to do with players that aren't being picked. Holy Jesus, what next ? 

What are you on about. A change of tactics?? It's always been that way, you said you had some clue of how it works, why do you keep asking these stupid questions that are commonly known.

For years, YEARS players that should have been picked weren't being picked. Common knowledge..in Cork anyway.

People in most cunties once they're beat turn ruond and say, why is he not on etc etc etc Excuses, excuses excuses -

Whyare you only bringing this up now ?You're losing the war when you're bringing these very simplistic arguments into it !

[orangeman]

Reports are coming in from Cork that the under 21 players who have been contacted for the St Colman's challenge match have been approached by senior players not to take part !

[Aghdavoyle]

Reports are coming in from Cork that the under 21 players who have been contacted for the St Colman's challenge match have been approached by senior players not to take part !

What's the source of these reports? i'd be very disappointed if this transpored to be true

[Reillers]

It's bull, absolute bull because I know lads on the 21 panel. They are hell bent on it, they're almost more vocal then the senior lads.

OM knows about as much about this as he did about Pa Horgan.

[Reillers]

Are you serious??..You said you know a fair bit about Cork hurling and how it's run.

He was a sub against Tipp, and came on as a sub against Galway and played against Clare instead of Timmy Mac who was injured. He played against Dublin as well I think, and in the League. Really promising player.
Came on against Galway, you think it would be overwhelming for the lad, but no, not at all, you swear he'd been on the team for years. Confidence has never been a problem with Cork teams, it's bred into them. He looked like he'd been part of the team for many years. The team is so good like that, they're a family basically, they make the new kids feel like they've been around for years, that basically means that there's very little transition for the kids, which makes it so much easier.
He was part of the team that beat Galway. That was some day.
That game, from all of the Cork lads.."It was simply inspiring stuff that left Cork supporters shaking with pride at the final whistle."
People question if the Cork players care, but like I challenge anyone to watch the Galway Cork game and tell me that they don't care. Donal Og called for them, it was time to see who cared, for all to give some and some to give all..and they did.

Anyway..

He'll be some serious player given the chance, as will Naughton, and Sully Og has so much potential as well. There's a fair chunk of them who could be real stars. Not to mention guys who aren't on the team who should be..but aren't, and why, because of bloody politics.

Politics ?

Player politics or player power ?


PLAYER POWER -

Neither nothing to do with the players.
You don't know what you're talking about. I thought you did for a while but then not so much any more.
It's got to do with politics of the selection of players. Players that should be picked but aren't. Nothing at all to do with the players..AT ALL.

It's Monday ! And another change of tactics !


So it's nothing to do with the players - it's all to do with players that aren't being picked. Holy Jesus, what next ? 

What are you on about. A change of tactics?? It's always been that way, you said you had some clue of how it works, why do you keep asking these stupid questions that are commonly known.

For years, YEARS players that should have been picked weren't being picked. Common knowledge..in Cork anyway.

People in most cunties once they're beat turn ruond and say, why is he not on etc etc etc Excuses, excuses excuses -

Whyare you only bringing this up now ?You're losing the war when you're bringing these very simplistic arguments into it !

What are you on about these are years old back to 2000 years old. I'm not only bringing it up now. You said you had an idea of how Cork is ran and yet you keep asking stupid questions like that, when even the most simple Cork fan knows that players who have been getting on on the team weren't because of politics. It's not just coming up now, it's been like that for years. You're just trying to stirr things. It's getting old.

[theskull1]

Reillers read AFR ffs and you'll see that there is a majority of Cork posters there who do not side with the players. You come on here spouting about people here not from Cork not having a clue. Well theres plenty who do have that clue and are still against what the players are doing and hope that Ger McCarthy and the CCB move on. So spare us all the "I'm from Cork therefore I am right and you are wrong" form of debate.

Anybody who happens upon this debate must understand that Reillers has very good connections with the Cork Players, therefore he is always going to regurgitate their rhetoric verbatim rather than actually debate

[Reillers]

AFR is the biggest joke. Try reading Rebel GAA and you'll really see. AFR is for people who just love stirring shit and have nothing better to do. Not a lot in Cork know either so do you mind not twisting what I say. 

Go to a real Cork site, not some shite ass thing and then you'll find the general opinion of actual Cork lads who play with their club week in week out, not ones who sit at home whinging on the comp talking shite.

[theskull1]

Here he goes again

Everybody else who doesn't agree with him is a joke/shit stirrer/shite talker/winger/not actual cork lads who play/volunteer (can I add that? or do you recognise that they could grassroots volunteers but simply believe that their opinions aren't valid worth listening to because they're not players?)

[Reillers]

No, it's just widely known that AFR is a piece of shite.
Try looking at, like I said, Rebel GAA. No not everyone agrees there, but it's debated there, people who know what's going on, people who have a clue, debate things with eachother.
Which is more then you can say about AFR where it's bitching session after bitching session, if you spent more then 5 seconds on the site you'd know that it's a piece of crap. Everyone knows it, now unless you're one of those who goes on and just bitches and bitches about a player or a county then you probably like it, but most respectable GAA fans hate it as much as the rest do who are just looking for a discussion not a batter the players/county site.

It's got othing to do with the grassroots and such, go to Rebel GAA most are involved at that level yet they manage to have an actual real conversation, not a..Cork or Waterford..etc are shit, the players are fukin shite as well..etc. conversation.

[orangeman]

It's bull, absolute bull because I know lads on the 21 panel. They are hell bent on it, they're almost more vocal then the senior lads.

OM knows about as much about this as he did about Pa Horgan.

Have you got today's Independent handy there Reillers seeing as you're so quick to refer to it all the time as being the gospel ! 

Have a wee read at what the county chairman is saying !

How much is long distance call these days ? 

[orangeman]

Who is doing the ringing round Reillers ?


Is it you by any chance ? 

[Reillers]

It's bull, absolute bull because I know lads on the 21 panel. They are hell bent on it, they're almost more vocal then the senior lads.

OM knows about as much about this as he did about Pa Horgan.

Have you got today's Independent handy there Reillers seeing as you're so quick to refer to it all the time as being the gospel ! 

Have a wee read at what the county chairman is saying !

How much is long distance call these days ? 

Oh I'm sorry I didn't realise it was the county chariman who had said it, it's now set in stone then. Like I said, I know a good few on the U21 panel and I'm tellying you right here and now, it's bull.

Take it or leave it. Believe the bullshiters that are the county board, who said to the players as a defence to why they put Gerald Mac back in, that they were unlucky to no beat Kilkenny.
You can't take them seriously in any thing they've done.

The fact that you'll believe the CB and not me shows how biased you are, how, you, yet again, refuse to hear the truth. And by the by, it's the board ringing the younger players, not the senior players.

The U21 senior Cork players who are still able to play U21 are also getting a hard time because of it.

[orangeman]

It's bull, absolute bull because I know lads on the 21 panel. They are hell bent on it, they're almost more vocal then the senior lads.

OM knows about as much about this as he did about Pa Horgan.

Have you got today's Independent handy there Reillers seeing as you're so quick to refer to it all the time as being the gospel ! 

Have a wee read at what the county chairman is saying !

How much is long distance call these days ? 

Oh I'm sorry I didn't realise it was the county chariman who had said it, it's now set in stone then. Like I said, I know a good few on the U21 panel and I'm tellying you right here and now, it's bull.

Take it or leave it. Believe the bullshiters that are the county board, who said to the players as a defence to why they put Gerald Mac back in, that they were unlucky to no beat Kilkenny.
You can't take them seriously in any thing they've done.

The fact that you'll believe the CB and not me shows how biased you are, how, you, yet again, refuse to hear the truth. And by the by, it's the board ringing the younger players, not the senior players.

The U21 senior Cork players who are still able to play U21 are also getting a hard time because of it.

This is why Cork are in the handling they're in - 


The county board and Mc Carthy tell nothing only lies -


The players are whiter than white and would never tell a lie - they're as honest as the day is long - if you met them for 5 miutes you'd understand that !!!


But somehow the general public don't believe you Reillers.


The grassroots as they are often referred to as are sick of the players throwing the head up  -  they've taken on Mc Carthy this time and I think they've bitten off a wee bit more than they are able to chew. Teddy Holland walked away last year - he wanted a  bit of peace and quiet - Mc Carthy isn't the type to walk away from anything.

[Reillers]

You don't listen to a word I say do you. You don't want to hear the truth, you're just obsesed with the story. You're convinced the players are lying.

I never said that the players are whiter then white, I said nothing like that. I actually said God only knows how many times by now that I didn't agree with their actions, yet you continue to whinge.

The board, and everyone who knows this has said it and the list is getting linger by the minute, know that the CB are responsible for everything that is wrong with Cork GAA be it with the senior Cork hurlers or down right to the grass roots.
You continue to bullshit. You go on about you knowing pretty well the runnings of Cork GAA yet you come out with stupid questions like did Pa Horgan have a run out with Cork yet, or saying that the politics why certain players aren't playing is actually player power, wait no sorry it was player power one second, even though it has got nothing, absolutley nothing to do with the players, then you say that it's only being brought up now, that's it's convinent. If you had the slightest, tiniest hint of an idea how Cork GAA was run, you'd know that players who aren't playing who should be has been happening for YEARS.

More and more people are coming out and bashing the CB, the players are finally coming out and telling the truth, like the 2 boys did on The Last Word, and like journos like Humphries has been doing.

Yet you wont listen to me, to anyone else on here, to journo like Humphries who actually knows, the guys on The Last Word, John Allen..etc. The list goes on, and why, why don't you believe them or listen to them. Because you don't want to, you don't want to hear the truth because that would mean that the players actions would be justified. Because God forbid the real truth got out, they'd then have 100% backing from everyone if it did.

Do you really think I give to shits about what some guy up in Sligo or Kerry or Antrim thinks? The people who know, the people who get it and know the real situation back the players against the board 100%.

Holland knew he was beaten, but again it wasn't about him. It was the board blatantly and obviously making a statement and the players were 100% entitled to do what they did.
This year, poor Gerald, legend. I said I didn't like the way he was being treated.
But I'm sure it's been mentioned, or you know because you know a bit about the inner workings of Cork GAA, that Gerald wasn't going to take the job again, this was before he was approached by the polayers, he said he wouldn't be interested. And now, just because his pride is hurt he's stayed in it, purely for personal gain, because of his pride.
So he leaks a confidential private document, tells blatant lies to the press and gets everyone wrapped around his little finger, he's won the PR battle all right, it's clear by you that he's influenced the every day paper readers.
But it doesn't mean it's the truth. You think he's whiter then white, yet it fails to hit you that he's made it personal and irreversable every time he's spoken to the press, he's been bitchy and lying about the players. What about the document he leaked, all because his pride was hurt.?? Forget about that did we?? He's a legend and I respect him but the game he's playing is destroying what's left of possible resolution, because he's so hell bent on getting the sympathy vote.

And low and behold, the most condemning thing so far, the most obvious revealing sign, is that Frank Murphy hasn't said a word, as per usual, and his silence is deafening.

He's going to sit and wait, until it's too late for the players to come back and he'll get what he's always wanted, complete control.
Control over success.