Which was the luckiest All-Ireland win?

[red hander]

Jaysus, you'd know it would be the inbreds agreeing with the fat portydown fool

[mayoman dan]

Although I think any team that plays Mayo in AI final is lucky .
This may be so sligonian but the only final ye lads will be contesting for the next
few years is the Tommy Murphy cup final if ye get that far.

[ziggysego]

All of Kerry's

[armaghniac]

Jaysus, you'd know it would be the inbreds agreeing with the fat portydown fool

Love thy neighbour and abuse him not when you cannot conceive a smart comment.

[corn02]

Jaysus, you'd know it would be the inbreds agreeing with the fat portydown fool

You want to cut out the abuse to Tony there? Bit of banter no need to get personal because people on here think it is ok in his case.

[Mourne Rover]

Meath were unlucky to lose O'Rourke for the 1991 final, but every side which has a championship run will be missing players at some stage. Down's first choice midfield that summer was supposed to be Ambrose and big Austin, but they both suffered long-term injuries. Even without O'Rourke, Meath in 1991 had a side which had nearly all played at least 15 or 20 championship games at Croke Park. Apart from the semi final, Down had not had a championship match there in the previous decade. It should have been no contest, but the best team won on the day.

I would say that the luckiest team to win an AI in living memory was Kerry in 1997. They were a decent side, but the structure of the competition meant that they did not have to face a county which had won an AI in the previous 40 years or subsequently (Tipperary, Clare, Cavan and Mayo, if I recall correctly).

[Armamike]

You Tyrone ones are some laugh. Winning your third all-ireland isn't enough for you, you have to start running down Armagh's effort in 2002 with a bit of historical revisionism.  Armagh bossed those 2 games against Tyrone in 02. Yeah, Armagh could have been caught at the end of the first tie with a late suckerpunch from Thorndyke or whoever, but it would have been a fookin travesty. Lads, get down and pray to Allah every night for the rest of your lives and give thanks that Armagh won it before ye's in 2002. If we hadn't ye'd still be stuck with Art and Eugene and living off the scraps of the odd moral victory at HQ on a big day out. Armagh showed ye's the way in 02 and deep down you know it.

[ziggysego]

You Tyrone ones are some laugh. Winning your third all-ireland isn't enough for you, you have to start running down Armagh's effort in 2002 with a bit of historical revisionism.  Armagh bossed those 2 games against Tyrone in 02. Yeah, Armagh could have caught at the end of the first tie with a late suckerpunch from Thorndyke or whoever, but it would have been a fookin travesty. Lads, get down and pray to Allah every night for the rest of your lives that Armagh won it before ye's in 2002. If we hadn't ye'd still be stuck with Art and Eugene and living off the scraps of the odd moral victory at HQ on a big day out. Armagh showed ye's the way in 02 and deep down you know it.

Tell you what, we'll stop having a go about 2002, if you tell Tony to shush about 2003 and 2005

[stew]

Kerry winning the AI in 53, we missed a penalty and controlled large parts of the game only to lose by two points.

We should have broke our duck in 53. 

[Midman]

Armagh in 2002 rode their luck on occasions but what team that won an All Ireland hasn't? No team will dominate a game from start to finish, Kerry dominated last 10-15 minutes of the first half (loss of J McEntee took its toll) but Armaghkept in the game and won the ball and scored the points when the game was there for the taking. Down in 91 had a great purple patch and built up a lead but a team of Meaths calibre were always going to come back to them. I don't think I remember any 'lucky' All Irelands. Close tight ganes where either tema could stake a claim(ie Dublin -Tyrone and  Meath - Mayo) but no lucky ones. In a final luck plays its part but you have to have the footballers to be able to win it and if you've got that far you have to be doing something right. Boring viewpoint I know but i hate this jingoistic lucky winners stuff, in one game it plays, but over a championship season I'm not so sure

[J70]

Charlie Redmond puts away his (soft-won) penalty in the first ten minutes of the '92 final, and Donegal would have been four points down and struggling. Instead they proceeded to run Dublin ragged for most of the rest of the game and were worth a lot more than the four point winning margin in the end. Given the way we recovered from the first-half setbacks in the Ulster final that year and the subsequent performance in the final, I think the team would have won the game anyway, but you never know. In any game that isn't a blow-out, there is always some near miss somewhere that you can point to and say "what if?" Look at Redmond and Dublin two years later.

[Down Gael]

I could be really obvious here and say the Armagh were lucky in 2002, but in truth Kerry lost it. They had more than enough chances to win the game, but failed to take any of them. Kerry may be the most talented side in the country, but they are seriously lacking in bottle. Armagh didnt have the skill of that Kerry side, but they kept plugging away and pulled off a smash and grab.
J70 mentioned Charlie Redmond, I would prefer to think that Neil Collins saved that penalty rather than Charlie missing it. Still it was great to stand on the pitch in Croke Park and watch the Hill empty.
For me the one of the luckiest victories was Derry in 1993. The sending off had a huge bearing on the game, but the Derry goal was also very lucky. Downey jumped for the ball with his eyes closed and somehow made contact with leather and the ball fell over the line. Cork can feel very hard done by thhat day and I remember feeling sorry for Tony Davies that night on the Sunday Game.
We all need a bit of luck to win an All Ireland, Ross Carrs monstrous free to Oisins goal, but in truth you make your own luck. How many people would have put their money on Tyrone after the replay in Newry? Looking back at some of the comments I would say not too many.

[Tyrone Dreamer]

You Tyrone ones are some laugh. Winning your third all-ireland isn't enough for you, you have to start running down Armagh's effort in 2002 with a bit of historical revisionism.  Armagh bossed those 2 games against Tyrone in 02. Yeah, Armagh could have been caught at the end of the first tie with a late suckerpunch from Thorndyke or whoever, but it would have been a fookin travesty. Lads, get down and pray to Allah every night for the rest of your lives and give thanks that Armagh won it before ye's in 2002. If we hadn't ye'd still be stuck with Art and Eugene and living off the scraps of the odd moral victory at HQ on a big day out. Armagh showed ye's the way in 02 and deep down you know it.

Your some craic. I would guess this thread was started in directe response to 2 weeks of constant anti Tyrone postings by an Armagh man which you have obviously chose to ignore.

[Estimator]

I could be really obvious here and say the Armagh were lucky in 2002, but in truth Kerry lost it. They had more than enough chances to win the game, but failed to take any of them. Kerry may be the most talented side in the country, but they are seriously lacking in bottle. Armagh didnt have the skill of that Kerry side, but they kept plugging away and pulled off a smash and grab.
J70 mentioned Charlie Redmond, I would prefer to think that Neil Collins saved that penalty rather than Charlie missing it. Still it was great to stand on the pitch in Croke Park and watch the Hill empty.
For me the one of the luckiest victories was Derry in 1993. The sending off had a huge bearing on the game, but the Derry goal was also very lucky. Downey jumped for the ball with his eyes closed and somehow made contact with leather and the ball fell over the line. Cork can feel very hard done by thhat day and I remember feeling sorry for Tony Davies that night on the Sunday Game.
We all need a bit of luck to win an All Ireland, Ross Carrs monstrous free to Oisins goal, but in truth you make your own luck. How many people would have put their money on Tyrone after the replay in Newry? Looking back at some of the comments I would say not too many.

Ok, I'll bite at this one.  The sending off did have a massive bearing on the game, lucky: definitely not - Callaghlan should have been sent off, why Tommy Howard only booked him I'll never know. How many times have we seen teams with 14  men go on and win the game? Cork regained the lead at the start of the second half despite having 14men.  Derry reeled them back in.
As for Downey's goal, were you marking him that day? Were you that close that you know that he had is eyes closed?
On the road to that All-Ireland Derry beat the 1990 (Cork), 1991 (Down) and 1992 (Donegal) Champions plus the 1992 Runners-up and 1993 National League Champions (Dublin) so I don't think Derry got very lucky that year at all.

[red hander]

Jaysus, you'd know it would be the inbreds agreeing with the fat portydown fool

You want to cut out the abuse to Tony there? Bit of banter no need to get personal because people on here think it is ok in his case.

Ok, let me get this right, someone who chooses to use his REAL name as his board moniker, never shuts up boasting about all the freebies he wangles and actually publicises the fact on this board when and if his photograph appers in the papers, will be so thin-skinned that he will be upset by a joking reference to his rotundness and his idiocy? I hope I'm not about when they finally pull that big cork stopper out of your hole Corn02...