Any word yet on the governmental Report on the army council?

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nope, to be fair you know nothing in honesty.

More bullsh1t from the slabber
You would think you are the voice of everything on this board
Running along there.........................and dont let the door hit you on the way out

[donalmac99]

nope, to be fair you know nothing in honesty.

More bullsh1t from the slabber
You would think you are the voice of everything on this board
Running along there.........................and dont let the door hit you on the way out

ironic given that your the one 'slabbering'

not the brightest spark are you

now try not to indulge in personal attacks..........it's against forum rules

[lynchbhoy]

if it serves no function then why does it still exist?

it exists because the members are still all alive
you hardly expect the army council to offer comment to anyone  - including the imc etc.
Thats a load of bollix and the imc report is still mostly 'guesswork'.
as for new hurdle number one
I wrote on here months/years ago that the unionists wont accept any ceasefire/standing down/disbanding/arms beyond use/decommissioning...
it would take for the entire nationalist population to be shipped off the island of Ireland with only the orange fraternity themselves left behind to then allow them to admit that the IRA are no longer in Ireland etc
then again, they'd prob start accusing each other of being unionist but closet IRA folk and perpetuate the whole facade and farce.

its a unionist tactic to keep it being mentioned to scare their loyalist voters into keeping them voted in as they are seen to speak out against them IRA folk and the 'threat' on their doorsteps

so are you writing this as someone who 'knows' or is it guesswork on your part?

it doesnt take a genius to work out the parts that I commented on

but I would appear to know more than yourself, but dont know why that should be given the obvious!

Am a long time interested party, plenty are!

nope, to be fair you know nothing in honesty. It's all obvously guesswork on your part. Im just glad that you wrote 'on here' all those years ago and not on a platform where more would be exposed to your embarrassing pseudo assertions with regard to the thinking of the IRA Amy Council.
BTW im pmsl at the 'it exists because its members are still alive' quote, Monty python would be proud bless his soul 

well I have to admit now that I prob know a bit more than I initially said, trying NOT to come across as a know it all, but I do know two ex army council members. Not that they told me themselves they were.
I sudggest that you know fcuk all- which is quite obvious by your witterings - and that if you think about it, the monty python-esque quote is actually extremely valid , and is how unionism/loyalism views the Army councl, and will continue to use this as an excuse.
...for example, how do you 'PROVE' the army council are not still meeting up?
It can neither be proven or disproven.
Even if the members were to own up and say they no longer meet.
if you had an iota in that vacant space between your ears, youd figure that one out !
Unlikely to be any time soon. unionists and brit governments love half wits like yourself! So damn gullible!

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nope, to be fair you know nothing in honesty.

More bullsh1t from the slabber
You would think you are the voice of everything on this board
Running along there.........................and dont let the door hit you on the way out

ironic given that your the one 'slabbering'

not the brightest spark are you

now try not to indulge in personal attacks..........it's against forum rules

I think you will find you were the one slabbering about me on another thread

[donalmac99]

nope, to be fair you know nothing in honesty.

More bullsh1t from the slabber
You would think you are the voice of everything on this board
Running along there.........................and dont let the door hit you on the way out

ironic given that your the one 'slabbering'

not the brightest spark are you

now try not to indulge in personal attacks..........it's against forum rules

I think you will find you were the one slabbering about me on another thread

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Good comeback....................

[donalmac99]

 
Good comeback....................

i'm sorry but could you please try to keep this thread on track. If you have nothing to contribute, or are unable to contribute, with regard to the subject then please dont waste the time of other users with your infantile playgorund attacks. that way you wont look so foolish.
hope that helps

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That helps surely, thanks

Now let me help you by telling you to [Snip]

[Donagh]

if it serves no function then why does it still exist?

You should ask the DUP that - they seem to need it more than anyone.

so thats a one reason why they shouldnt exist?

No just that you are asking the wrong question to the wrong people.

I spent last weekend helping a mate install security equipment after his business received threats from loyalists because he was doing work for someone else under threat from them. As a result he's had to give up valuable work from this customer and fork out on expensive security measures. Now I ask you who is the real threat?

[An Fear Rua]

The DUP?

[An Fear Rua]

gotta love robinson

First Minister Peter Robinson has said he wants assurances that the IRA army council will never meet again.

"I believe essentially we have this issue to the line but perhaps not yet over the line," said Mr Robinson.

"In my view, for the IMC to say that the Army Council is not meeting is a different thing to say that it is not in existence.

shamless stolen from elsewhere.

(DUP)The IRA Army Council must disband.

(IRA AC)We have disbanded!

(DUP)Prove it!

.................

(DUP)Prove it I said!

.................

(DUP)Hello!

Is there anybody there?

No! We've disbanded and won't be taking any more calls!

Slan!

Hello!

[An Fear Rua]

wee gorrddy broone seems happy enough .

"I believe that this will provide reassurance and hope for everybody," said Mr Brown.

"In the next few days, I will use all my efforts to make sure that the devolution of policing and justice can go ahead and the final stages of the peace process will now be completed, to the better government of Northern Ireland and to the peace and prosperity of the people there."

thats quite the statment of intent.

[ziggysego]

Intent and action are two different things. Except more hurdles.

[heganboy]

the guardian's version of events:
from    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/sep/03/northernireland.northernireland


IRA has disbanded as underground army, report says


The Northern Ireland secretary, Shaun Woodward, said the IRA no longer posed any threat. Photograph: Clara Molden

The IRA has effectively disbanded as an underground army and no longer meets for any terrorist purposes, the group charged with overseeing paramilitary ceasefires in Northern Ireland said today.

The International Monitoring Commission (IMC) said the Provisionals' ruling body, the army council, had fallen into "disuse" but there would be no formal announcement of it being disbanded.

The Northern Ireland secretary, Shaun Woodward, said the findings meant there was now "no rational reason" for Northern Ireland political parties not to continue negotiations, including on the devolution of policing and justice powers – a key Sinn Féin demand.

In its 19th report (PDF), the IMC says: "The mechanism which they (the IRA) have chosen to bring the armed conflict to a complete end has been the standing down of the structures which engaged in the armed campaign and the conscious decision to fall into disuse."

The first minister and Democratic Unionist party (DUP) leader, Peter Robinson, had called on the army council of the republican group to disband to enable unionists to have full confidence in the political process.

However, the IMC report says: "We do not see that there will be formal announcements about the disbandment of all or parts of the structure."

This absence of a formal process will pose problems for Robinson and the DUP.

The report's authors exonerate the IRA over non-terrorist crimes, although they accept that some of its individual members or ex-members could be engaged in "ordinary" criminal activity.

Overall, the ceasefire monitoring commission says the IRA poses no threat to the peaceful or democratic process, adding that it sees "no grounds" for evidence that the IRA and its membership could return to "war".

The report is important given the current pressures on the Northern Ireland power-sharing government.

Sinn Féin has sent out thinly veiled warnings that unless policing and justice powers are transferred from London to Belfast, it might pull out of the devolved government.

Woodward pointed to the importance of the IMC conclusion that all the military departments, including the IRA army council, have fallen into disuse.

"I would go further and say this: is there an army for the army council to direct? It now seems, according to this report, there is not," he said.

"We have arrived. The time has come to move on. It's not a statement that is important - after all, the loyalists have made plenty of statements about decommissioning but they haven't decommissioned.

"By their actions, rather than any statement, the IRA is at a situation where it no longer poses any threat."

[Denn Forever]

Was listening to 5Live and they were interviewing Ian Jr.  He seems to accept the IMC report and the other 19(?) imc reports that the IRA are no more.  He just want a statement of this.  Could it be so easy?


Was very dismissive of anyone pulling down the agreement.  As much as to say neither side is so stupid.  Hopefully that is true!!