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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6540 on: January 20, 2019, 11:05:34 AM »
What a crowd tonight. Watched  Armagh a few times last year and they have a massive following. Not much between the two teams probably Tyrones experience was the difference. Nice to see the National Anthem being well respected. Thought there was a good bit of "bite" in the game a sure sign of things to come. Man of the match for me was the Armagh mid fielder Grimley. One particular time in the second half he jumped away up into the clouds to fetch a ball, he was that high when he finally came back down and hit the ground he winded himself. It was a fantastic piece of skill but it's a pity they  didn't show it on the replay.
Armagh and Tyrone have a few good scrap yard dogs in their defences. I actually thought Tyrone got a couple of buttery soft frees towards the end of the first half. I don't think Peter Harte is suited at full forward he excels in the space. Sludden had a brave good game for Tyrone tonight over all both sets of players contributed a lot. The pitch looked very cut up where Armagh took their penalty which I suppose you could expect this time of the year. Over all it was great entertaining game.

It usually takes OíRourke, Spillane or Brolly to start drooling over a high catch especially if itís performed against Tyrone 😂

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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6541 on: January 20, 2019, 01:36:08 PM »
As I've said before  - Armagh now  have their best panel since the glory days and if McGeeney fails to get somehting out of them this year you would have to question the wisdom of renewing his contract. Thier front 6 is right up there with Kerry/ Tyrone / Monaghan / Mayo (just maybe not Dublin)

Tackling is thier major downfall. Far too many fouls given away with poor technique and playing the man not the ball.

That and acting the hard men when thery don't need to.

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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6542 on: January 20, 2019, 01:37:14 PM »
As I've said before  - Armagh now  have their best panel since the glory days and if McGeeney fails to get somehting out of them this year you would have to question the wisdom of renewing his contract. Thier front 6 is right up there with Kerry/ Tyrone / Monaghan / Mayo (just maybe not Dublin)

Tackling is thier major downfall. Far too many fouls given away with poor technique and playing the man not the ball.

That and acting the hard men when thery don't need to.

Pot kettle with that current Tyrone side.

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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6543 on: January 20, 2019, 01:40:28 PM »
As I've said before  - Armagh now  have their best panel since the glory days and if McGeeney fails to get somehting out of them this year you would have to question the wisdom of renewing his contract. Thier front 6 is right up there with Kerry/ Tyrone / Monaghan / Mayo (just maybe not Dublin)

Tackling is thier major downfall. Far too many fouls given away with poor technique and playing the man not the ball.

That and acting the hard men when thery don't need to.

A big problem with the tackling is that referees in Armagh let a lot more go. It is not so much they are acting the hard man more they are doing what they are used to. Anyone at an Armagh club championship game can see that.

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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6544 on: January 20, 2019, 02:23:43 PM »
As I've said before  - Armagh now  have their best panel since the glory days and if McGeeney fails to get somehting out of them this year you would have to question the wisdom of renewing his contract. Thier front 6 is right up there with Kerry/ Tyrone / Monaghan / Mayo (just maybe not Dublin)

Tackling is thier major downfall. Far too many fouls given away with poor technique and playing the man not the ball.

That and acting the hard men when thery don't need to.

A big problem with the tackling is that referees in Armagh let a lot more go. It is not so much they are acting the hard man more they are doing what they are used to. Anyone at an Armagh club championship game can see that.

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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6545 on: January 20, 2019, 02:38:51 PM »
It's only a rivalry if Tyrone continue to field a 2nd / 3rd string, which is unlikely.

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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6546 on: January 20, 2019, 03:44:49 PM »
Armagh have improved alright but it wouldn't have been hard to improve as we've been poor enough over the last 5 years or so, from the forward line last night we have Murnin, E rafferty, O'Neill to force their way in. For defence P Hughes and A Forker to come in (remind me who else is missing), our defence is going to let us down. I know a few Tyrone wans are winding us up but they're right, we do give far too many fouls away and TBH there was at least 2-3 times in that game last night where our defenders high tackled a Tyrone player when there was no need to even touch them as they were going out of play...Criminal.

I do believe Tyrone are still a few steps ahead of us and IMHO if the ground was firmer Tyrone are 5-6 pts a better team, they have a few better athletic runners than us but we are making strides and closing the gap ever so slightly and who knows where we'll be come start of August (hopefully the Super 8's). All in all not a bad match and both managers will be pleased for a match like that this time of the year which will serve both teams well for the coming weeks.

For something different...someone mentioned about taking the McKenna cup serious...I remember teams using the league and more often than not the last 2-3 matches of it for getting ready for the Championship, the way it's going we're using the McKenna cup to get ready for the league and maybe in a few years we'll have something else to prepare us for the McKenna cup :P
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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6547 on: January 20, 2019, 04:06:45 PM »
Armagh have improved alright but it wouldn't have been hard to improve as we've been poor enough over the last 5 years or so, from the forward line last night we have Murnin, E rafferty, O'Neill to force their way in. For defence P Hughes and A Forker to come in (remind me who else is missing), our defence is going to let us down. I know a few Tyrone wans are winding us up but they're right, we do give far too many fouls away and TBH there was at least 2-3 times in that game last night where our defenders high tackled a Tyrone player when there was no need to even touch them as they were going out of play...Criminal.

I do believe Tyrone are still a few steps ahead of us and IMHO if the ground was firmer Tyrone are 5-6 pts a better team, they have a few better athletic runners than us but we are making strides and closing the gap ever so slightly and who knows where we'll be come start of August (hopefully the Super 8's). All in all not a bad match and both managers will be pleased for a match like that this time of the year which will serve both teams well for the coming weeks.

For something different...someone mentioned about taking the McKenna cup serious...I remember teams using the league and more often than not the last 2-3 matches of it for getting ready for the Championship, the way it's going we're using the McKenna cup to get ready for the league and maybe in a few years we'll have something else to prepare us for the McKenna cup :P

Burns is the only other one I can think of to come back. Is he injured?

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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6548 on: January 20, 2019, 05:51:14 PM »
Armagh have improved alright but it wouldn't have been hard to improve as we've been poor enough over the last 5 years or so, from the forward line last night we have Murnin, E rafferty, O'Neill to force their way in. For defence P Hughes and A Forker to come in (remind me who else is missing), our defence is going to let us down. I know a few Tyrone wans are winding us up but they're right, we do give far too many fouls away and TBH there was at least 2-3 times in that game last night where our defenders high tackled a Tyrone player when there was no need to even touch them as they were going out of play...Criminal.

I do believe Tyrone are still a few steps ahead of us and IMHO if the ground was firmer Tyrone are 5-6 pts a better team, they have a few better athletic runners than us but we are making strides and closing the gap ever so slightly and who knows where we'll be come start of August (hopefully the Super 8's). All in all not a bad match and both managers will be pleased for a match like that this time of the year which will serve both teams well for the coming weeks.

For something different...someone mentioned about taking the McKenna cup serious...I remember teams using the league and more often than not the last 2-3 matches of it for getting ready for the Championship, the way it's going we're using the McKenna cup to get ready for the league and maybe in a few years we'll have something else to prepare us for the McKenna cup :P

A big year awaits for Armagh in Div 2. If they can give that a good rattle and I expect they will, then a Super 8's appearance is a realistic target. 7 big games coming up.


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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6549 on: January 20, 2019, 08:23:39 PM »
As I've said before  - Armagh now  have their best panel since the glory days and if McGeeney fails to get somehting out of them this year you would have to question the wisdom of renewing his contract. Thier front 6 is right up there with Kerry/ Tyrone / Monaghan / Mayo (just maybe not Dublin)

Tackling is thier major downfall. Far too many fouls given away with poor technique and playing the man not the ball.

That and acting the hard men when thery don't need to.

A big problem with the tackling is that referees in Armagh let a lot more go. It is not so much they are acting the hard man more they are doing what they are used to. Anyone at an Armagh club championship game can see that.

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Throwball is 100% right.  If Kevin Faloon was refereeing that game last night there would hardly have been a free given! A review of refereeing in Armagh is badly needed.
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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6550 on: January 20, 2019, 10:18:04 PM »
Just watched the TG4 coverage. What team sheet did they have?

McGeeney didnít look too unhappy at the end. He has got what he wanted from the competition

Tyrone looked to have got a few scores (3 to my mind) from dubious frees but the big issue remains our tackling. Our reaction to a free being given against us probably doesnít endear us to the ref. I noticed McGeary laughing and joking with the ref after his yellow card. Later he somehow escapes a 2nd yellow. A lesson there??

Morgan might well been unlucky in getting the second card but he lives on the edge. James needs to tighten up and Geezer needs to luck at some of the needless cards we get and subbing off those carrying the cards.

Kick out remain an issue. Hard to tell what the issue is but the area needs work.

Hopefully we get a few more back for the start of the league. Burns at the back and Murnin would add a lot to that team
« Last Edit: January 20, 2019, 10:55:42 PM by smelmoth »

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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6551 on: January 20, 2019, 10:39:27 PM »
What about Jarleth Og? was he not playing a few games earlier in the competition and what about young McQuillan (Martin's son from St Pats)
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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6552 on: January 21, 2019, 07:43:59 AM »
What about Jarleth Og? was he not playing a few games earlier in the competition and what about young McQuillan (Martin's son from St Pats)

He came on as a sub the last two games. Has been playing Sigerson.
McQuillan cane on did he not?

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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6553 on: January 21, 2019, 09:08:47 AM »
What about Jarleth Og? was he not playing a few games earlier in the competition and what about young McQuillan (Martin's son from St Pats)

He came on as a sub the last two games. Has been playing Sigerson.
McQuillan cane on did he not?

TBH i've lost track of these young lads (that's how you know you're getting old)
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Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« Reply #6554 on: January 21, 2019, 09:47:01 AM »
What about Jarleth Og? was he not playing a few games earlier in the competition and what about young McQuillan (Martin's son from St Pats)

He came on as a sub the last two games. Has been playing Sigerson.
McQuillan cane on did he not?

TBH i've lost track of these young lads (that's how you know you're getting old)

Haha. The number 22 came on. He was listed as McKenna but Iím sure it was McQuillan