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Re: The Recession
« Reply #165 on: March 22, 2020, 09:25:05 PM »
Italy 59 k cases 5476 deaths .

USA 39k cases 396 deaths .

I still donít understand why Italyís ratio is soo off the scale .

Italy has an older population I have heard. Italy are also further down the line in terms of time. There are more deaths on the way in places like the UK, US and Ireland.

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« Reply #166 on: March 22, 2020, 09:30:20 PM »
Time accounts for the Italian deaths to some extent, more will die in the USA. However, people live several years longer in Italy also, that success make them more vulnerable now.
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« Reply #167 on: March 22, 2020, 09:39:18 PM »
Heavy smokers in Italy or just unlucky?
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« Reply #168 on: March 22, 2020, 09:48:24 PM »
You would imagine, and hope for us in Ireland, that as the Italians are very touchy (ie the kissing on the cheeks) that they may have transmitted it easier than we have done.  Also the Italians have a bit more culture of elderly parents living with their adult children, and grandchildren.

Unsure how much of those two factors are real, but hopefully there is something in it.

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« Reply #169 on: March 22, 2020, 09:52:32 PM »
Me too. House prices and basically multiple generations of families living together maybe too.

Or maybe itís all wishful thinking but time will tell :(

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« Reply #170 on: March 22, 2020, 09:55:11 PM »
Italy 59 k cases 5476 deaths .

USA 39k cases 396 deaths .

I still donít understand why Italyís ratio is soo off the scale .

Italy has an older population I have heard. Italy are also further down the line in terms of time. There are more deaths on the way in places like the UK, US and Ireland.
It's not just an old people problem in Italy.
Italy has its own peculiarities when it comes to flu like illness.   There were 3 million diagnosed with influenza from October to mid Jan.  Some 35,000 died on average every year from influenza like illnesses (ILI)  over  a 4 year period 2013 -2017
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(19)30328-5/fulltext#secsect0035

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Re: The Recession
« Reply #171 on: March 22, 2020, 11:34:04 PM »
Italy 59 k cases 5476 deaths .

USA 39k cases 396 deaths .

I still donít understand why Italyís ratio is soo off the scale .

Italy has an older population I have heard. Italy are also further down the line in terms of time. There are more deaths on the way in places like the UK, US and Ireland.
It's not just an old people problem in Italy.
Italy has its own peculiarities when it comes to flu like illness.   There were 3 million diagnosed with influenza from October to mid Jan.  Some 35,000 died on average every year from influenza like illnesses (ILI)  over  a 4 year period 2013 -2017
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(19)30328-5/fulltext#secsect0035

The prevalence of flu served to conceal the arrival of Covid19.
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Re: The Recession
« Reply #172 on: March 23, 2020, 08:48:38 AM »
Italy 59 k cases 5476 deaths .

USA 39k cases 396 deaths .

I still donít understand why Italyís ratio is soo off the scale .

Italy has an older population I have heard. Italy are also further down the line in terms of time. There are more deaths on the way in places like the UK, US and Ireland.
It's not just an old people problem in Italy.
Italy has its own peculiarities when it comes to flu like illness.   There were 3 million diagnosed with influenza from October to mid Jan.  Some 35,000 died on average every year from influenza like illnesses (ILI)  over  a 4 year period 2013 -2017
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(19)30328-5/fulltext#secsect0035

The prevalence of flu served to conceal the arrival of Covid19.

Northern Italy even has its respiratory problems prior to this
https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

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Re: The Recession
« Reply #173 on: March 23, 2020, 10:07:59 AM »
Italy 59 k cases 5476 deaths .

USA 39k cases 396 deaths .

I still donít understand why Italyís ratio is soo off the scale .

There were 14k new cases alone in the US yesterday, it hit Italy about 4 weeks prior to the US. Those death statistics in the US could rise dramatically in the coming weeks.

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Re: The Recession
« Reply #174 on: March 23, 2020, 10:43:07 AM »
Italy 59 k cases 5476 deaths .

USA 39k cases 396 deaths .

I still donít understand why Italyís ratio is soo off the scale .

Italy has an older population I have heard. Italy are also further down the line in terms of time. There are more deaths on the way in places like the UK, US and Ireland.
It's not just an old people problem in Italy.
Italy has its own peculiarities when it comes to flu like illness.   There were 3 million diagnosed with influenza from October to mid Jan.  Some 35,000 died on average every year from influenza like illnesses (ILI)  over  a 4 year period 2013 -2017
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(19)30328-5/fulltext#secsect0035

The prevalence of flu served to conceal the arrival of Covid19.

Northern Italy even has its respiratory problems prior to this
https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

One thing discussed was that both China and Northern Italy have bad pollution. In this respect Ireland is better off.
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