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Re: Teachers get it handy!
« Reply #2565 on: June 30, 2020, 04:09:05 PM »
Youíre right. Being in a school is going to be a massive shock to them alright.


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Re: Teachers get it handy!
« Reply #2566 on: June 30, 2020, 04:28:42 PM »
If children aren't back full time in September then teachers need to be back full time teaching the children remotely, marking homework, etc. A complete uniform approach across the board from every school and every teacher. Not what we witnessed in March, April, May and June were many schools simply shut and took an extended break. Teachers, Schools and Dept of Ed must pull their weight.

I actually agree with the part in bold, 100%. The problem earlier in the year is that the education authority/minister in charge hadn't a clue how to do it so by default the schools had to devise their own ways. Some schools did it better than others, some teachers were more productive than others and some did fook all. However, some parents also did fook all in terms of engaging with the schools and were happy enough to let their kids go into holiday mode. The finger of blame can't point entirely at teachers.

I have some issue with the point you make about teachers all being back full time teaching remotely though. For a lot people out there they simply cannot work full time if their own kids are not in school. The same will apply to teachers who have children of school age. It would be unreasonable to expect a teacher to work full time if they have kids at home due to lock down whilst at the same time saying its understandable that a retail worker can't go to work for the same reasons. However, this should all be covered by the uniform approach across the board you mention.
The uniform approach would have to be on a teacher by teacher basis and what their personal circumstances are. For example, a teacher who is shielding should not be in school at all, but if they have no school age children it could be reasonable to expect them to work the full working week remotely. But for a teacher who has young children who cannot attend school due to lock down, that teacher should not be expected to have to work in a full time capacity as they have childcare and homeschooling responsibilities also. Then there is also the scenario of teachers who are carers, teachers who travel long distances to work, support staff (classroom assistants, cleaners, kitchen staff, secretaries....the list goes on).
The uniform approach will have to cover all those scenarios and the extended staff of a school.

It is not unreasonable. Creches have reopened. Make arrangements. Organise childcare just like the rest of the population have to. Take some responsibility.

This just sums up the attitude of the vast majority of teachers. Unwilling and uncompromising.

Then you can use the same argument for any person doing any job. If a retail worker has kids, and the schools are closed, then the same retail worker should get their kids into a creche and get out to work. If they don't do that then they are unwilling or uncompromising.
Though who will home-school the kids when they are in a creche?
And if schools are closed, would you expect creche's to be opened? I'd imagine closed schools would also mean closed childcare facilities. What should the teachers do then? Or indeed any worker in any job?


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Re: Teachers get it handy!
« Reply #2567 on: June 30, 2020, 05:46:19 PM »
Thatís the money spent! Didnít take long!
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« Reply #2568 on: June 30, 2020, 06:53:37 PM »
Teachers are in for a shock. Public fast losing respect for them.

The public don't have any respect for teachers so there is nothing to lose
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« Reply #2569 on: June 30, 2020, 07:03:40 PM »
Teachers are in for a shock. Public fast losing respect for them.

You've not been too involved in the home schooling then!!!

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« Reply #2570 on: June 30, 2020, 07:18:30 PM »
Teachers are in for a shock. Public fast losing respect for them.

You've not been too involved in the home schooling then!!!
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Re: Teachers get it handy!
« Reply #2571 on: June 30, 2020, 07:51:35 PM »
See previous posts....

Is the problem individual rather than 'industry' wide?

Some people need to look at the schools their kids attend.....rather than beating up the teaching profession....

As a responsible parent I think I'll try and keep the teaching up during the summer (admittedly poor in comparison to their actual teachers and fairly testing at times)

Ah well.....

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« Reply #2572 on: June 30, 2020, 08:30:59 PM »
In my experience, the vast majority of schools coped and delivered effective learning opportunities for pupils .
Post - primaries would be in a better position in terms of IT to deliver on line live lessons , as they are far better resourced.
Primary schools wouldnt have the IT infrastructure or finance to have expertise in IT. Education dept have nt refreshed the equipment in 6/7 years - it's knackered.
Please remember , we haven't been in the situation before.
Schools should be sending out questionnaires seeking ways to improve the service provided to the pupils and in supporting parents . If the arent doing that , then they deserve to be rebuked.
Some schools will need to improve , some will need to add consistency across the school , others will be able to continue with the service they have provided for August and September.

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« Reply #2573 on: June 30, 2020, 08:48:34 PM »
See previous posts....

Is the problem individual rather than 'industry' wide?

Some people need to look at the schools their kids attend.....rather than beating up the teaching profession....

As a responsible parent I think I'll try and keep the teaching up during the summer (admittedly poor in comparison to their actual teachers and fairly testing at times)

Ah well.....

Exactly. The problem seems to me to be individual too. There are incompetent teachers like there are incompetent everything else in life.

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Re: Teachers get it handy!
« Reply #2574 on: June 30, 2020, 09:03:37 PM »
Thatís the money spent! Didnít take long!

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« Reply #2575 on: June 30, 2020, 09:13:52 PM »
Anything I post is not the view of the County Board!! Nobody died in the making of this post ;-)

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« Reply #2576 on: June 30, 2020, 09:57:51 PM »
Another major issue that Dept of Education need to resolve is Home to School transport. At the minute , they've no solution to that problem,so the roads will be chaos !

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« Reply #2577 on: June 30, 2020, 10:08:06 PM »
Another major issue that Dept of Education need to resolve is Home to School transport. At the minute , they've no solution to that problem,so the roads will be chaos !

Would it not be, make the kids use a mask? Public transport is bringing this in
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« Reply #2578 on: June 30, 2020, 10:26:39 PM »
Both jurisdictions would be wise to come on with remote lesson plans over the summer. You don't know when you could have a Leicester and schools in some district would have to close.
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Re: Teachers get it handy!
« Reply #2579 on: July 03, 2020, 01:19:17 PM »