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JimStynes

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« Reply #1755 on: April 30, 2019, 01:08:01 PM »
Well, are we taking the 4.25%?

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« Reply #1756 on: April 30, 2019, 01:13:09 PM »
Well, are we taking the 4.25%?

This is not a 4.25 % pay rise. Itís just over 2% which is shite. A back payment which is taxable. And no word of future plans for pay rises. Itís a con and I will be voting against.

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« Reply #1757 on: April 30, 2019, 01:17:40 PM »
Well, are we taking the 4.25%?

This is not a 4.25 % pay rise. Itís just over 2% which is shite. A back payment which is taxable. And no word of future plans for pay rises. Itís a con and I will be voting against.

Not sure what teachers were expecting considering the public sector pay restraint

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« Reply #1758 on: April 30, 2019, 01:57:28 PM »
Well, are we taking the 4.25%?

This is not a 4.25 % pay rise. Itís just over 2% which is shite. A back payment which is taxable. And no word of future plans for pay rises. Itís a con and I will be voting against.

Why wouldnt it be taxable? Why is it 2% rather than the 4.25% discussed?
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« Reply #1759 on: April 30, 2019, 02:36:30 PM »
Why wouldnt it be taxable? Why is it 2% rather than the 4.25% discussed?

Not a teacher, so no dog in the hunt, but the problem would arise if the backpay lump sump puts you into the high-band tax threshold, so it is (perhaps partially) taxed in higher tax bracket and you are then paying 20% more tax than what you would on that money if you earned it in a "normal" year.

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« Reply #1760 on: April 30, 2019, 03:53:55 PM »
Why wouldnt it be taxable? Why is it 2% rather than the 4.25% discussed?

Not a teacher, so no dog in the hunt, but the problem would arise if the backpay lump sump puts you into the high-band tax threshold, so it is (perhaps partially) taxed in higher tax bracket and you are then paying 20% more tax than what you would on that money if you earned it in a "normal" year.

Won't happen for vast majority of teachers.  Those without top promotions earn well below the 40% threshold.

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« Reply #1761 on: April 30, 2019, 05:16:42 PM »
Won't happen for vast majority of teachers.  Those without top promotions earn well below the 40% threshold.

True.

Wonder how child care tax credits etc work - do they use the same demarcations as the income tax bands?
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« Reply #1762 on: April 30, 2019, 06:05:21 PM »
Well, are we taking the 4.25%?

This is not a 4.25 % pay rise. Itís just over 2% which is shite. A back payment which is taxable. And no word of future plans for pay rises. Itís a con and I will be voting against.

Why wouldnt it be taxable? Why is it 2% rather than the 4.25% discussed?

The 4.25% is for the past two years working out at just over 2% per year. Buttons
Reading yesterdayís report they were talking about teachers at top of the scale getting a back  payment of £2000. Doesnít sound too bad eh? The fact is when tax is deducted they ll not be getting anything near it  !!! And if the deal is accepted by teachers (which I hope they donít) what do you think will happen when unions go looking for another pay rise next year???? They ll be laughed out if the door. My view is maintain industrial action where inspections and directed time are boycotted and they can keep their paltry offer!!!!!

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« Reply #1763 on: April 30, 2019, 07:08:28 PM »
Teachers' pay is an absolute joke and they pay rise they're being offered is useless. I'm a Civil Servant and earn over £10K more than my wife who's a teacher. I'd say half the staff in Tesco get paid more
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« Reply #1764 on: April 30, 2019, 09:14:58 PM »
Teachers' pay is an absolute joke and they pay rise they're being offered is useless. I'm a Civil Servant and earn over £10K more than my wife who's a teacher. I'd say half the staff in Tesco get paid more

Really! NICS pay must be great.

Here are the teacher pay scales for teachers who have not been awarded a promotion. Any teacher can progress up through this scale over 9 years, just look at the annual increments.




Currently Tesco workers are paid £7.62 an hour, which will rise to £8.42 an hour by November 2018. The pay rise will put Tesco workers' pay above the £7.90 level that the National Living Wage is expected to reach by 2018. (23 Jun 2017)

I think teachers need to realise how fortunate they really are compared to the average in N.Ireland. In 2017, average weekly wages in Northern Ireland was £501, up 1.5 per cent from £494 in 2016. Annual salaries in the north, at £25,999, are still lower than the UK average of £28,758.
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« Reply #1765 on: April 30, 2019, 09:23:50 PM »
Teachers' pay is an absolute joke and they pay rise they're being offered is useless. I'm a Civil Servant and earn over £10K more than my wife who's a teacher. I'd say half the staff in Tesco get paid more

Was speaking to a civil servant manager and sheís on £50 grand a year!
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« Reply #1766 on: April 30, 2019, 09:27:37 PM »
I get the impression itíll be rejected.

There is a feeling that teachers are content with the current industrial action and I think itíll take more than 4.25% to pull them out of it.


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« Reply #1767 on: April 30, 2019, 09:32:45 PM »
Teachers' pay is an absolute joke and they pay rise they're being offered is useless. I'm a Civil Servant and earn over £10K more than my wife who's a teacher. I'd say half the staff in Tesco get paid more

Was speaking to a civil servant manager and sheís on £50 grand a year!

More like an Administrative Officer, on those wages.

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« Reply #1768 on: April 30, 2019, 09:42:16 PM »
Get that same impression myself Hardstation.
Scottish teachers managed to negotiate a 13% pay rise over 3 years. 

The only people that are annoyed by the current industrial action are some school prinicipals and the inspectorate.
Most schools are actually happier places to work as teachers get to concentrate on teaching

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« Reply #1769 on: April 30, 2019, 09:47:58 PM »
Get that same impression myself Hardstation.
Scottish teachers managed to negotiate a 13% pay rise over 3 years. 

The only people that are annoyed by the current industrial action are some school prinicipals and the inspectorate.
Most schools are actually happier places to work as teachers get to concentrate on teaching

Teachers in south start of Ä36k.