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If you have/had a vote, how will/would you vote?

Yes
122 (87.8%)
No
17 (12.2%)

Total Members Voted: 139

Voting closed: September 18, 2014, 11:36:16 AM

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Re: Scottish independence referendum thread
« Reply #615 on: July 07, 2020, 06:32:25 PM »
45% of them did the right thing.
Of the 55 who did the wrong thing I wonder how many were committed unionists?
An awful lot of older folk voted no that time who will be dead and gone when the next vote is taken.
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Re: Scottish independence referendum thread
« Reply #616 on: July 07, 2020, 06:51:46 PM »
The Scot's problem is that any IndyRef is only possible at the gift of Westminster ... the likelihood that a second referendum would result in a majority for Independence, means that it is far less likely to be 'granted' to Scotland.  Short of landing a million+ Scots at the gates of Westminster, I can't see what would prompt an English parliament to give a second referendum.

The Pandemic has again magnified the stupidity of the Union, not just for the Scots, but for the north as well.  The sooner the 'precious' Union is no more, the better for all concerned, including the English.
I'm not sure the hundreds of thousands of Scots who received significant financial support from Westminster would agree.  Would an independent Scotland be able to offer the same level of support if a similar pandamic arises a few years down the line?

Aye, the Scots should be thankful for Boris and all they get. Scots don't pay tax or contribute to the Westminster pot? What a stupid statement.
Not what I am saying at all.  Just saying that there are advantages to being part of the 6th largest economy in the world during times of crisis such as the ongoing pandemic.

Scottish people received financial support because they are still part of the UK and still pay their dues (in fact many reports suggest Scotland contributes more than it receives back), just like the Welsh. They received what they were entitled to, no more or no less than anyone else in the UK. So why should that equate to Scots suddenly thinking that independence isn't worth pursuing anymore? In fact for the shambolic job the present Tory government has made of pandemic management and how they are going to shaft who they have to with Brexit negotiations, including the northern Irish, there is even more reason to want away as recent polls suggest. The union is done and thank f**k for that.
As there is no guarantee that an independent Scotland will be as well off economically and Scots are seeing first hand the safety net that the Union provides.  I would imagine that the same thought has occurred to a few folk in NI too.

Safety net! There is no guarantee Scotland would be worse off as an independent nation. No one truly knows but I sure as hell feel having a greater say in your own affairs and not relying on Tories or Labour to make major decisions for you looks very appealing.

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Re: Scottish independence referendum thread
« Reply #617 on: July 07, 2020, 07:37:47 PM »
Not to mention their own oil.
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