Dublin Vs Meath

Started by Jinxy, April 13, 2008, 09:50:54 PM

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Jinxy

Extremely accurate from play and placed balls but pace and workrate are his weaknesses. A bit like Joe in that he always seem to be carrying a bit more weight than an intercounty player should be.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

mattockranger

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Quote from: Jinxy on April 18, 2008, 11:48:58 AM
Its what I would call a good "league" forward line. If the pitch is a bit heavy, and conditions aren't great it's made for the likes of big Joe and Cian Ward. But come championship I honestly don't think we could afford to have the 2 of them playing in the same line. Too slow.

Having seen him in championship action for his club i reckon Ward has as much pace and more ability from open play than Vaughan
he just has to get a consistent run in the championship due to his lazy approach he has not been able to find his feet 
will to win is important the will to prepare to win is vital

Jinxy

I'd certainly agree that he contributes more from general play than Vaughan does.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

heffo

Quote from: Jinxy on April 18, 2008, 12:34:57 PM
I'd certainly agree that he contributes more from general play than Vaughan does.

For his club or county?

mattockranger

Maybe it tells a tale about the two counties

vaughan is overhyped i dublin and Ward is hounded for being a lazy genius in meath
if ward was from dublin he would be overhyped and vaughan viceversa!

i'd say both
will to win is important the will to prepare to win is vital

Jinxy

Quote from: heffo on April 18, 2008, 12:38:19 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 18, 2008, 12:34:57 PM
I'd certainly agree that he contributes more from general play than Vaughan does.

For his club or county?

For both. However at senior county level he hasn't had a massive amount of games, but as a minor and u-21 he was very good from open play.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

heffo

Quote from: Jinxy on April 18, 2008, 12:46:18 PM
Quote from: heffo on April 18, 2008, 12:38:19 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 18, 2008, 12:34:57 PM
I'd certainly agree that he contributes more from general play than Vaughan does.

For his club or county?

For both. However at senior county level he hasn't had a massive amount of games, but as a minor and u-21 he was very good from open play.

Have you seen much of Vaughan at Minor/U21 and Club level?

mattockranger

Vaughan would not start for meath,  Dublin are short on natural forwards and he find himself in the side

he'd suffer the same fate as Ward wouldn't be allowed find his feet at senior level!
will to win is important the will to prepare to win is vital

Jinxy

Quote from: heffo on April 18, 2008, 12:47:57 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 18, 2008, 12:46:18 PM
Quote from: heffo on April 18, 2008, 12:38:19 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 18, 2008, 12:34:57 PM
I'd certainly agree that he contributes more from general play than Vaughan does.

For his club or county?

For both. However at senior county level he hasn't had a massive amount of games, but as a minor and u-21 he was very good from open play.

Have you seen much of Vaughan at Minor/U21 and Club level?

I saw him at minor and u-21 a few times plus I saw him a good bit in the club championship when Crokes went on their run (2005?) and he always struck me as being a very unnatural gaelic footballer. He still is. Plus he gets sent off quite a bit.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

his holiness nb

Vaughan and Ward are quite similar in that they dont do a huge amount from play and are used for their free taking ability.
The difference is that Ward was great from frees for half a game last year, Vaughan was consistantly good all through the championship last year.

Both can do something special occasionally from play, but not nearly often enough.
Luckily for Dublin they have enough forwards well able to score from play to accomodate Vaughan. I dont think Meath have.


Ask me holy bollix

Jinxy

How is Vaughans free-taking lately?
If you were any use you'd be playing.

his holiness nb

Quote from: Jinxy on April 18, 2008, 01:17:31 PM
How is Vaughans free-taking lately?

Pretty poor, but taking frees in the bad conditions at this time of year is a very diffent story to during the summer in Croke Park.
Like last year, he does it when it really counts.
Ask me holy bollix

Jinxy

It was always going to be hard for Ward last year after his miraculous cameo in the first Dublin game. He's just out of u-21 so it was hard for him to keep his feet on the ground. Plus our forward line last year was very strong so he didn't get much of a chance to play his way back into the side after a poor game in the replay. What he needs now is competitive game time. With Farrell missing he is our only other reliable free-taking option. I think he will step up this season.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

his holiness nb

I've seen enough of Ward in club football to be confident he has a bright future ahead of him in intercounty football if he knuckles down.
Ask me holy bollix

Fuzzman

Sorry if you've already discussed this but will there be tickets for sale at the ground on Sunday?

Is it at 2.30 at Parnell Park?