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Deerstalker

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 26, 2024, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: gallsman on November 26, 2024, 10:04:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 26, 2024, 09:10:36 AMAny truth in the rumour that after she refused the silence payment and decided to go to the Civil courts that her house was visited by four hooded men and her partner got stabbed in the process?


Weren't allowed to mention it as it wasn't relevant to the case I think?

Don't think it's a rumour, has been widely reported following the trial. Her counsel brought it to the judge - hard to imagine that being done without any evidence of it.

Yes the judge did not allow it as evidence

Armagh18

See he's put out a statement saying he'll be appealing and is focusing on getting back into the fight game.


Truthsayer

#1817
Quote from: samuel maguire on November 26, 2024, 10:54:53 AMIf you were raped why would you go on to have sex with another random man shortly after?

Why did she lie about having consensual sex with said man?

Why did she lie to her boyfreind about her whereabouts?

Why did she claim she was the only one there - Then once her friend came forward and said she was also present and she seen/heard anything to cooperate with a rape taking place?

Is it not strange for the first thing for her boyfriend to do when she arrived home was record their conversation? Why wait to go to the police?

Why did the taxi driver also confirm she preformed oral sex on McGreogor in the back of the car?

It just doesn't add up to me. I think she was caught being a coke whore and eventually when she had to go back and face the music she see an opportunity to throw out the rape card.
If only his solicitors had thought of all that. You need to ring them - social media legal expert

Cavan19

Quote from: samuel maguire on November 26, 2024, 10:54:53 AMIf you were raped why would you go on to have sex with another random man shortly after?

Why did she lie about having consensual sex with said man?

Why did she lie to her boyfreind about her whereabouts?

Why did she claim she was the only one there - Then once her friend came forward and said she was also present and she seen/heard anything to cooperate with a rape taking place?

Is it not strange for the first thing for her boyfriend to do when she arrived home was record their conversation? Why wait to go to the police?

Why did the taxi driver also confirm she preformed oral sex on McGreogor in the back of the car?

It just doesn't add up to me. I think she was caught being a coke whore and eventually when she had to go back and face the music she see an opportunity to throw out the rape card.

I supose she got all her injuries by falling into the bath aswell.

gallsman

Some posts getting deleted here Mods? Any explanation why? Please don't tell me you're equating misogyny and victim shaming with people calling out misogyny and victim shaming.

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: samuel maguire on November 26, 2024, 10:54:53 AMIf you were raped why would you go on to have sex with another random man shortly after?

Why did she lie about having consensual sex with said man?

Why did she lie to her boyfreind about her whereabouts?

Why did she claim she was the only one there - Then once her friend came forward and said she was also present and she seen/heard anything to cooperate with a rape taking place?

Is it not strange for the first thing for her boyfriend to do when she arrived home was record their conversation? Why wait to go to the police?

Why did the taxi driver also confirm she preformed oral sex on McGreogor in the back of the car?

It just doesn't add up to me. I think she was caught being a coke whore and eventually when she had to go back and face the music she see an opportunity to throw out the rape card.

You know what they should do - bear with me now.

They should have a court case - with a judge and jury.
They should then have witnesses and evidence and present that to the jury - from both the accuser and the accused.
They should do that until everyone has had their say - maybe for like 3 weeks or so - then they should send the jury off to make their decision what happened.
Jury makes their decision and the judge tells everyone what they thought - and gets to award damages if appropriate.

samuel maguire

Quote from: johnnycool on November 26, 2024, 09:10:36 AMAny truth in the rumour that after she refused the silence payment and decided to go to the Civil courts that her house was visited by four hooded men and her partner got stabbed in the process?


The case never made it through the criminal courts - it was thrown out based on said evidence.

He was found liable for compensation and damages in a civil case. His reputation has went before him in this case.

She would have been laughed at in a criminal court. She is a proven liar

Hound

Quote from: Rawhide on November 26, 2024, 10:53:36 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 26, 2024, 10:27:02 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on November 26, 2024, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on November 25, 2024, 07:18:53 PMSc**bag McGregor was found liable for rape. If there is an appeal a few posters here could apply to give evidence on his behalf. Knuckleheaded misogynists...

Wrong, he wasn't found liable for rape, he was found guilty of assault. Seriously, if your going to pontificate, at least get your facts right, stop making shit up.
Then he'll have a lot of media companies to sue. Don't be an apologist for a rapist.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/conor-mcgregor-speaks-after-losing-civil-rape-case-as-feminist-march-held-in-dublin-13260789

You would do well to read the link you posted, and I quote from your link 'The MMA fighter was accused of raping Nikita Hand, who was awarded €248,603 (£206,000) in damages on Friday after a jury at Dublin's High Court found McGregor assaulted her in a Dublin hotel in 2018'. He was not found guilty of rape.

Also don't assume I am apologist for anything because I pulled you on inaccurate reporting of information. Its obvious he is a horrible individual. I wouldn't be in the slightest bit surprised if other woman now came forward with similar stories. The time he hit the old man in the bar said it all.

You have totally mis-interpreted that and are putting out false statements. You may not have been following it closely.

McGregor was found liable for assault and that assault was rape. The judge was very clear in his instructions to the jury, that if they found him guilty, damages would have to be substantial (which was taken to mean 6 figures) because the assault in this case was rape, which was a very serious type of assault.

johnnycool

Quote from: samuel maguire on November 26, 2024, 04:15:21 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 26, 2024, 09:10:36 AMAny truth in the rumour that after she refused the silence payment and decided to go to the Civil courts that her house was visited by four hooded men and her partner got stabbed in the process?


The case never made it through the criminal courts - it was thrown out based on said evidence.

He was found liable for compensation and damages in a civil case. His reputation has went before him in this case.

She would have been laughed at in a criminal court. She is a proven liar

So, back to my point, is what I put up there true or untrue?

samuel maguire

Quote from: Cavan19 on November 26, 2024, 02:16:27 PM
Quote from: samuel maguire on November 26, 2024, 10:54:53 AMIf you were raped why would you go on to have sex with another random man shortly after?

Why did she lie about having consensual sex with said man?

Why did she lie to her boyfreind about her whereabouts?

Why did she claim she was the only one there - Then once her friend came forward and said she was also present and she seen/heard anything to cooperate with a rape taking place?

Is it not strange for the first thing for her boyfriend to do when she arrived home was record their conversation? Why wait to go to the police?

Why did the taxi driver also confirm she preformed oral sex on McGreogor in the back of the car?

It just doesn't add up to me. I think she was caught being a coke whore and eventually when she had to go back and face the music she see an opportunity to throw out the rape card.

I supose she got all her injuries by falling into the bath aswell.

What injuries? If you are talking about the brusies on her body they could have easily occurred anytime throughout her 3 day bender. It was proven she had little to no sleep over the course of these 3 days. Maybe she fell? Or maybe as a result of the rough consensual sex she had?

The tampon one is a tricky one - Maybe she was that of her head/drunk she forgot it was in. Seems plausable. Maybe it was inserted by herself after the act to run inline with her fabricated story? Who knows.
Hygine was not on the top of this womans agenda - she has been wearing the same clothes for 3 days.

Truthsayer

#1825
The comments that the MODs are allowing here about this woman who won her case against a sc**bag. Defamation.
 A very courageous woman being vilified by supporters of a rapist.
 Is no wonder women are marching on the street in support of her.

Gabriel_Hurl


Hound

Quote from: samuel maguire on November 26, 2024, 10:54:53 AMIf you were raped why would you go on to have sex with another random man shortly after?

Why did she lie about having consensual sex with said man?

Why did she lie to her boyfreind about her whereabouts?

Why did she claim she was the only one there - Then once her friend came forward and said she was also present and she seen/heard anything to cooperate with a rape taking place?

Is it not strange for the first thing for her boyfriend to do when she arrived home was record their conversation? Why wait to go to the police?

Why did the taxi driver also confirm she preformed oral sex on McGreogor in the back of the car?

It just doesn't add up to me. I think she was caught being a coke whore and eventually when she had to go back and face the music she see an opportunity to throw out the rape card.
There was seemingly compelling evidence on both sides. You are making the mistake of believing everything you read on social media from McGregor fans!

The taxi driver wasn't brought forward as a witness by McGregor's lawyer. Why not?
When McGregor was recounting what happened in the car, he never mentioned it. Why not? (He only mentioned it when aggravated by her lawyer, and his wording was interesting, he said 'the tax driver said...', he still didn't say 'she gave me a ...')
From what I've heard from a barrister friend, the talk around the courts was the taxi driver was most likely mistaken and wasn't deemed a believable witness by any side.

The lying to the boyfriend is totally irrelevant! 
The CCTV evidence was clearly bad for the plaintiff and the main reason I would say as to why the DPP didn't bring it to court.
Whether or not she had sex with the other lad was not decided by the jury. They just found that he did not assault/rape her. There was no mention in the judgement about whether they had sex or not. It took a while for McGregor and him to come up with that story at the time, which makes it less believable.

It is one of the mysteries of the case as to why her legal team decided to include the other lad in the charge.

At the end if the day, the jury heard all the evidence and decided the most compelling was the medical evidence. Whatever about how drunk or high she was, and that she clearly had memory black outs,  he wasn't entitled to rape her and cause the damage he clearly did.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Hound on November 26, 2024, 04:40:54 PM
Quote from: samuel maguire on November 26, 2024, 10:54:53 AMIf you were raped why would you go on to have sex with another random man shortly after?

Why did she lie about having consensual sex with said man?

Why did she lie to her boyfreind about her whereabouts?

Why did she claim she was the only one there - Then once her friend came forward and said she was also present and she seen/heard anything to cooperate with a rape taking place?

Is it not strange for the first thing for her boyfriend to do when she arrived home was record their conversation? Why wait to go to the police?

Why did the taxi driver also confirm she preformed oral sex on McGreogor in the back of the car?

It just doesn't add up to me. I think she was caught being a coke whore and eventually when she had to go back and face the music she see an opportunity to throw out the rape card.
There was seemingly compelling evidence on both sides. You are making the mistake of believing everything you read on social media from McGregor fans!

The taxi driver wasn't brought forward as a witness by McGregor's lawyer. Why not?
When McGregor was recounting what happened in the car, he never mentioned it. Why not? (He only mentioned it when aggravated by her lawyer, and his wording was interesting, he said 'the tax driver said...', he still didn't say 'she gave me a ...')
From what I've heard from a barrister friend, the talk around the courts was the taxi driver was most likely mistaken and wasn't deemed a believable witness by any side.

The lying to the boyfriend is totally irrelevant! 
The CCTV evidence was clearly bad for the plaintiff and the main reason I would say as to why the DPP didn't bring it to court.
Whether or not she had sex with the other lad was not decided by the jury. They just found that he did not assault/rape her. There was no mention in the judgement about whether they had sex or not. It took a while for McGregor and him to come up with that story at the time, which makes it less believable.

It is one of the mysteries of the case as to why her legal team decided to include the other lad in the charge.

At the end if the day, the jury heard all the evidence and decided the most compelling was the medical evidence. Whatever about how drunk or high she was, and that she clearly had memory black outs,  he wasn't entitled to rape her and cause the damage he clearly did.

Joe Brolly explains clearly in his podcast this week why her legal team included the other man in the action. According to Brolly they had to eliminate him as not even being there in order to totally discredit McGregors account.
Whatever about his views on GAA etc Brolly knows his law. 

gallsman

McGregor far from the only horrible **** about the place.