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« Reply #1545 on: October 09, 2018, 12:12:27 PM »
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

Like it or not thats the way of the world.

Soccer will regularly keep players who put bums on seats when they should get rid - Ronaldo? Cantona?
GAA - the Dubs are the cash cow so pump money into them to ensure they remain front and centre.
NFL - Kapernick got the road but if it had have been Brady or Rodgers do you think that would have happened?
NBA - Bryant and the rape allegation/payoff
Cycling - Froome
Athletics - Sir Mo

Its all about the money and it would be naive in the extreme to think otherwise

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« Reply #1546 on: October 09, 2018, 12:13:15 PM »
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It never was a sport, it was/ is a business.

MMA isn't a sport?  You're kidding, right?
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« Reply #1547 on: October 09, 2018, 12:59:48 PM »
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It never was a sport, it was/ is a business.

MMA isn't a sport?  You're kidding, right?

MMA is a sport - UFC is a promotion business

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« Reply #1548 on: October 09, 2018, 01:19:55 PM »
Exactly.

It just grates on me a bit when people confuse the two.

I would just love it if even a quarter of the people who watched Khabib vs McGregor tuned in to watch Holloway vs Ortega in December.
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« Reply #1549 on: October 09, 2018, 01:20:56 PM »
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?
yes whoever heard of a well paid sports man full of his own importance  exaggerating how much he earns and over spending becoming a bankrupt in a year after retirement ?
Vanity whiskeys(c which taste like turps according to  bloomberg) and huge entourages don't come for for free you know
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« Reply #1550 on: October 10, 2018, 08:53:59 PM »
Dustin Poirier vs Nate Diaz at UFC 230 is off - Poirier injured himself

And Ariel Helwani is reporting it will be Bones Jones / Gustaffson 2 at UFC 232 on December 29th for the "vacant" light heavyweight title

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« Reply #1551 on: October 10, 2018, 11:11:54 PM »
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?
yes whoever heard of a well paid sports man full of his own importance  exaggerating how much he earns and over spending becoming a bankrupt in a year after retirement ?
Vanity whiskeys(c which taste like turps according to  bloomberg) and huge entourages don't come for for free you know

Yeah mate, Iím pretty sure leveraging your fame to build a brand that will outlast your career is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing. Joe public ainít getting their buying advice from Bloomberg..

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« Reply #1552 on: October 10, 2018, 11:56:44 PM »
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?
yes whoever heard of a well paid sports man full of his own importance  exaggerating how much he earns and over spending becoming a bankrupt in a year after retirement ?
Vanity whiskeys(c which taste like turps according to  bloomberg) and huge entourages don't come for for free you know

Yeah mate, Iím pretty sure leveraging your fame to build a brand that will outlast your career is exactly the sort of thing he should be doing. Joe public ainít getting their buying advice from Bloomberg..

How true.  You and your fellow fanboys will lap up whatever shite McGregor and his marketing team tells you to.
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« Reply #1553 on: October 11, 2018, 12:59:26 AM »
I don't like his attitude but nobody can deny he has promoted the UFC (and himself) brand more than their own marketing department. Just look at the two years he was out, there was F all going on.

On the otherhand he has to be admired. For one, how many of us have the balls to drop our jobs and sacrafice it all to fulfill our dream? He took people for a ride with the Mayweather fight, everyone knew he was going to lose but people still watched it.

Khabib, Diaz, Mayweather etc they are all just a stepping stone for McGregor. It doesn't matter if they beat him, when he is done with them (maybe not Mayweather) they will go back to their 100k odd payday while he is coming up with a new scheme.

He knows it won't last forever, he will become predictable and boring  to watch and listen to. He is investing in business adventures and fair play to him. He would make a comfortable living making a few appearances on wwe a year just because he is good at promoting.

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« Reply #1554 on: October 11, 2018, 07:56:36 AM »
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?
yes whoever heard of a well paid sports man full of his own importance  exaggerating how much he earns and over spending becoming a bankrupt in a year after retirement ?
Vanity whiskeys(c which taste like turps according to  bloomberg) and huge entourages don't come for for free you know

I never understood why gimmick drinks like this always taste awful, go find a small distillery making something half way decent buy them out and make their spirit, its like the purposefully make the stuff taste shite.

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« Reply #1555 on: October 11, 2018, 09:23:42 AM »
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?
yes whoever heard of a well paid sports man full of his own importance  exaggerating how much he earns and over spending becoming a bankrupt in a year after retirement ?
Vanity whiskeys(c which taste like turps according to  bloomberg) and huge entourages don't come for for free you know

I never understood why gimmick drinks like this always taste awful, go find a small distillery making something half way decent buy them out and make their spirit, its like the purposefully make the stuff taste shite.

A distillery is a huge capital investment. This way McGregor gets to slap his name on a young, cheap whiskey and market it to impressionable t**ts. It's been working too, as the stuff has been flying off the shelves. Whether they can maintain that momentum is a different story.
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« Reply #1556 on: October 11, 2018, 10:02:07 AM »
I don't like his attitude but nobody can deny he has promoted the UFC (and himself) brand more than their own marketing department. Just look at the two years he was out, there was F all going on.

On the otherhand he has to be admired. For one, how many of us have the balls to drop our jobs and sacrafice it all to fulfill our dream? He took people for a ride with the Mayweather fight, everyone knew he was going to lose but people still watched it.

Khabib, Diaz, Mayweather etc they are all just a stepping stone for McGregor. It doesn't matter if they beat him, when he is done with them (maybe not Mayweather) they will go back to their 100k odd payday while he is coming up with a new scheme.

He knows it won't last forever, he will become predictable and boring  to watch and listen to. He is investing in business adventures and fair play to him. He would make a comfortable living making a few appearances on wwe a year just because he is good at promoting.

Was interesting to hear John Kavanagh on the Joe Rogan podcast this week talking about how it's really only Prizefighting.  Get in, make as much money as possible in the shortest time possible and get out with the least amount of damage.  So, with talk like this from his coach, I'd imagine McGregor won't have too long left in the UFC.

(I could listen to Kavanagh talk all day.  He's a proper fight nerd)

Also, for anyone interested in the prep work going into a fight, McGregor's nutritionist was on talking about the science behind the weight cut.  Fascinating stuff.
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« Reply #1557 on: October 11, 2018, 10:46:22 AM »
Kavanagh is a bellend. He's a good BJJ coach who struck it lucky with a golden goose. He's a hypocritical arsehole - champions gay rights because of his brother but never speaks a word when McGregor comes out anything homophobic. He's clearly by no means stupid yet nowhere near as intelligent as he thinks he is.

Lockhart, the nutritionist, is very popular amongst MMA fighters but is also a bellend. Bro-science and endless pseudo intellectual nonsense, which of course makes him perfect for a Rogan podcast. His methods have developed over the years through trial and error, not through science. Good fit for McGregor too of course - Julian Dalby's medical qualification, for example, comes from a university in Grenada.
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« Reply #1558 on: October 11, 2018, 10:52:00 AM »
That's me told!   ;D
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« Reply #1559 on: October 11, 2018, 10:58:00 AM »


His methods have developed over the years through trial and error, not through science.

Was actually gonna put in brackets (science, or lack of) so you beat me to it there...although he has something like 200 fighters on his books so there must be something in it.

As for Kavanagh's background outside the ring, I know nothing.  I just like to hear him talk about tactics and strategies.  Get a different perspective on things, ye know?

But 3 bell-ends on one podcast! Harsh!   :) 
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