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« Reply #1530 on: October 08, 2018, 11:21:42 PM »
Its a money game and Conor Mac makes a lot of money for UFC. The Russian would beat him 9 time out of 10 and maybe even 10 times. UFC are going to look very hard to keep their cash cow as the main fighter in this weight. I'm expecting Khabib to get a long ban from this if not kicked out all-together. Thats sets up Conor up for a Ferguson fight and anther pay-day for UFC. Its that or keep Khabib in this and they make a fraction of the money.
After seeing fans fight on the street after, LV and Nevada won't want this guy around again.

McGregor has a million other fights he can make that are bigger than Khabib.

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« Reply #1531 on: October 08, 2018, 11:45:48 PM »
Whatís the chances of the rematch being in Russia?

On Christmas Day perhaps?

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« Reply #1532 on: October 08, 2018, 11:57:00 PM »
It could be that McGregors lifestyle is catching up with him. Once he has lost that edge and hunger he has lost something intangible as a UFC fighter at the elite level. His primary motivation appears to be money and he already has enough of that.

Absolute nonsense.

McGregor is a striker, he fought maybe the best wrestler in the history of the UFC. There was no lack of heart or effort from him but I doubt you even watched fight. Youíd rather feign concern on a thread.

But McGregor didn't even win the stand up last night, khabib knocked him down and everything

McGregor was too focused on Khabib gping for take downs, that itself led to him being more cautious on his feet and staying out of his normal attacking range more often than normal.

That's not what happened at all. Khabib stood in front of him pretty much the entire third round. Only focusing on his own strengths would have been a disaster and the fight would have been more of a mauling than it already was. It was by virtue of the fact that he clearly trained his wrestling so much that he was able to give a good account of himself defensively on the ground.

Khabib is just a horrible, horrible match up for him. He didn't fear the power and that gave him the ability to shoot whenever he wanted. Once he grabs hold of you it's over.
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« Reply #1533 on: October 09, 2018, 12:01:14 AM »
It could be that McGregors lifestyle is catching up with him. Once he has lost that edge and hunger he has lost something intangible as a UFC fighter at the elite level. His primary motivation appears to be money and he already has enough of that.

Absolute nonsense.

McGregor is a striker, he fought maybe the best wrestler in the history of the UFC. There was no lack of heart or effort from him but I doubt you even watched fight. Youíd rather feign concern on a thread.

But McGregor didn't even win the stand up last night, khabib knocked him down and everything

McGregor was too focused on Khabib gping for take downs, that itself led to him being more cautious on his feet and staying out of his normal attacking range more often than normal.

That's not what happened at all. Khabib stood in front of him pretty much the entire third round. Only focusing on his own strengths would have been a disaster and the fight would have been more of a mauling than it already was. It was by virtue of the fact that he clearly trained his wrestling so much that he was able to give a good account of himself defensively on the ground.

Khabib is just a horrible, horrible match up for him. He didn't fear the power and that gave him the ability to shoot whenever he wanted. Once he grabs hold of you it's over.

Third round was after about ten minutes of him laying on top of McGregor wearing him down. Very different to standing and trading in the first round when McGregor was fresh. Grappling in MMA is shite to watch and someone like Khabib should never have been given a contract in the UFC to begin with. Sport needs to be entertaining to be sellable and Khabibís style is anything but.

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« Reply #1534 on: October 09, 2018, 12:37:38 AM »
Doesn't matter. If he doesn't have KO power 10 minutes into a 25 minute fight, regardless of energy expenditure, that points to bigger problems.

But if you insist, go back five minutes earlier to round 2, five minutes less of grappling dominance when Khabib was still happy enough to attend and trade with him to the extent he put him in his arse.

"One of the most outstanding and dominant performers in UFC history shouldn't have been given a UFC contract"

Intriguing, but unsurprisingly stupid, take on things.
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« Reply #1535 on: October 09, 2018, 12:52:19 AM »
Doesn't matter. If he doesn't have KO power 10 minutes into a 25 minute fight, regardless of energy expenditure, that points to bigger problems.

But if you insist, go back five minutes earlier to round 2, five minutes less of grappling dominance when Khabib was still happy enough to attend and trade with him to the extent he put him in his arse.

"One of the most outstanding and dominant performers in UFC history shouldn't have been given a UFC contract"

Intriguing, but unsurprisingly stupid, take on things.

Not really. The UFC is the definition of sports entertainment. They donít have any responsibility to give any particularly fighter a contract if it doesnít suit the product they want to produce. Itís no coincidence that thereís not many superstar grapplers in UFC history. Itís the fighters who knock people out that become the big stars.

If you find it entertaining bully for you, but that firmly puts you in the anorak camp and not the casual fight fans the UFC is desperately trying to attract. If I was chasing the mainstream like the UFC is Iíd consider fighters like Khabib to be the bane of my existence. The rules need to change to either limit the dry humping on the ground or those fighters need to be never hired in the first place.

And IIRC McGregor has never won any fight by KO after the first two rounds so the suggestion that judging his power to be weakened in the third isnít valid is one of the biggest pieces of rubbish youíre yet tried to pass off. McGregor has been well known to have problems sticking the pace in long fights so of course his power had been impaired after Khabib had sat his fat arse on top of him for ten minutes.
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« Reply #1536 on: October 09, 2018, 01:04:48 AM »
If only there was a sport where 2 lads stand up to each other and try to knock each other out??

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« Reply #1537 on: October 09, 2018, 07:35:40 AM »
If only there was a sport where 2 lads stand up to each other and try to knock each other out??

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« Reply #1538 on: October 09, 2018, 08:32:34 AM »
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?

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« Reply #1539 on: October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM »
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

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« Reply #1540 on: October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM »
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

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« Reply #1541 on: October 09, 2018, 11:04:04 AM »
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It never was a sport, it was/ is a business.

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« Reply #1542 on: October 09, 2018, 11:04:36 AM »
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It was the same for the GAA! When the Leinster final was between Westmeath and Laois in 2004, The Stadium was only half full. The GAA wanted Dublin in Leinster finals to ensure high gates. The difference here was they could influence the Dublin product with money.

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« Reply #1543 on: October 09, 2018, 11:07:55 AM »
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?

If he spent like a regular individual sure. But as long as he lives like a king he'll keep running into the classic fighter problem where you need to fight every few years even after you're well past your prime and losing. We'll see if that Whiskey venture is profitable enough to keep him out of the ring. I doubt it though and he's certainly not scaling back his lifestyle anytime soon.
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« Reply #1544 on: October 09, 2018, 11:21:15 AM »
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It never was a sport, it was/ is a business.
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