Cheltenham 2008

[Our Nail Loney]

Pedrobob out for the season as well, was going for the Arkle.

f**king cat the amount of injuries/horses being put down this year

[Our Nail Loney]

Just pointing out tomorrows card at Cheltenham-great jumps card, should be some very good pointers for the Festival with the likes of Wichita Lineman, Exotic Dancer, Katchit, Blazing Bailey and Ashely Brook all winning on the corresponding card last year.

Very good novice hurdle to start off with, Wichita won last year and went on to win the Brit Insurance Novices Hurldle on Gold Cup day. Another horse that Wichita beat last year was Massini's Maguire who went on to the Ballymore Properties Hurdle, and Tidal Bay who is currently top of the markets for the Arkle and RSA Chase (5s and 8s respectively). I like the look of Ecelith Echo in the first, did well in bumpers before switching to hurdles, looks useful enough and can go any ground and has been looking for more than 2miles.

The 2.10 sees a winner form last years festival, Burntoakboy which won the Coral Cup. Am ruling out New Little Bric after such a disappointing run in the Boylesports Gold Cup which it went off favourite (won by Tamarinbleu which is now up there for the Champ Chase after beating Twist Magic last week). My pick would be Patman Du Charmil, a creditbale third behind Tamarinbleu in the Boylesports GC and 2nd to Vodka Bleu in good race New Years Day at Cheltenham, clearly enjoys the course.

The Letheby (2.40) won by Exotic Dancer last year who went on to finish second in Gold Cup, See more Business another winner of this race and the Gold Cup. Pity Exotic Dancer has been took out of the race would have liked to see him after the King George which was a little disappointing. Leaves the racewide open though. Horses such as Our vic, Neptune Collonges, Madison du Berlais and State of Play all etered for the Gold Cup. Our Vic is also entered for the Ryanair Case for which it is prominent in the betting. I can't see past Our Vic here. Ran a cracker on St Stephens Day to finish second in the King george, a rac which Kauto totally dominated and showed his class. Pipes horses have been in great form this season as well, especially in the bigger races.

The Juvenile Novice Hurdle will give god pointers for the Triumph Hurdle at the festival. Last years winner was Katchit who went no to romp home up the hill in the triumph. Another previous winner was Hors La Loi who went no to Champion Hurdle glory. I see this race as a battle between Franchoek (5/1 triumph) and Tatenen (16/1 triumph). King versus Nicholls. I would go for Franchoek because I like the King/Thornton combo, been very good for me over the last couple years and has proved can go over the soft ground and won over the distance on three occasions.

The race I am looking forward to the most is probbly the Cleeve Hurdle (3.50) since Exotic dropped out of the Letheby. Bad memories of this race after Black Jack in it last year but sure no matter. Last years World Hurdle hero Inglis Drever out for the second time this season, will be very hard to beat given that it s a two time WH winner. Won't get it easy though as Blazing Bailey ahs looked back to his best this winnning by a good margin New Years Day from horses such as Wichita, Afsoun, Black Jack and Gaspara. Chief Dan George is niteresting, was beaten by Wichita at last years festival but the reversed the result at Aintree a few weeks later. I would go each wayn though on te ever improving Lough Derg, couldnt believe the price last week when it won at 6/1!! When you think its beat the likes of Hardy Eustace, Black Jack, Special Envoy etc...

Well theres my thoughts, as you can tell its been a pretty slow day!!!!

[Captain Black]

the bookies love boys like yous why dont yous be honest and tell how much money yous waste watcin a dumb animal jumpin over a fence

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[Gaaboardmod3]

the bookies love boys like yous why dont yous be honest and tell how much money yous waste watcin a dumb animal jumpin over a fence

[Edited by Mod3]

Hi Captain Black, and welcome to the forum. However posts like the above will not go down too well here, or lead to a long membership of the board. Please refrain from personal abuse, and if you are not interested in a thread, or have nothing constructive/interesting to say then don't say anything.

Cheers.

[jaykay]

the bookies love boys like yous why dont yous be honest and tell how much money yous waste watcin a dumb animal jumpin over a fence

[Edited by Mod3]

More of a Flat racing man yourself are you Captain.  I have to say I prefere National Hunt myself.

[Our Nail Loney]

Well cpatain black, a big welcome to you! I work in a bookies part time and I suppose I love myself a wee bit, I mean who doesn't?? So yeah you're right. You are now the smartest person on here!!

Ps I lose a bit but I also win a bit, what's the harm in that? I don't lose more than I can afford. And I love watching horse racing. I f you don't like ti don't read the thread son.

Peace out

[Mickey Linden]

Forpadydeplasterer - Ballymore Novice Hurdle

Had 100 on him at 33/1 - now into 16's

Looks like a good call! Whats everyones latest opinion on Cheltenham. Denman was very impressive on saturday. The gold cup is going to be a cracker. Master minded was also mightly impressive. Fancied Twist MAgic for the champion chase but am not so sure now. Either way its going to be a great festival for Nicolls with leading fancies in big races

[Red Sky]

What race is The Listener running in?

[girt_giggler]

Has an entry in the gold cup & ryanair chase

[Red Sky]

Surely he isnt going run in both?

[Homer]

Surely he isnt going run in both?

He can (Baron De Feypo ran in two different races at Cheltenham last year) I'd imagine the Listener will go for the Ryanair.

Think I'm gonna have a pop at Aux Le Bahnn @ 66s for the Ballymore before he runs today.

[winsamsoon]

I know that shift in the market for paddytheplaster would look very significant but really it wouldn't take a lot of money for a horse to go from 33/1 to 14's maybe something in the range of 5to 6 hundred. People can be confused by this and think such a shift means the horse is getting thousands thrown at it. My fancies for cheltenham would be Franchoek, The listener, (Kauto Star Denman) Forecast and Sizing Europe (nap) Think sizing Europe has the ability certainly on the last outing to hack up.Then again Cheltenham is a different story and it is a mad week that just sets you up for St Paddys ( but it can make or break St Paddys  ) Anyway i am sure we will all be looking forward to the festival as the gossip sweals around the towns and bookies shops. I especially like to hear people who know absolutely nothing about horses( not that i am a pro) running round throwing money at absolutely anything that has a pulse, Classic. Hope the lot of you's get the winners you want. The last good year i had was when the Baracouda and moscow flyer done the business for me although i had War of Attrition scalped too a couple years backs

[AZOffaly]

I'm hearing a few whispers for lilywhitedancer in the Champion Bumper.

[Mickey Linden]

I still fancy Sublimity for the champion hurdle. I know Sizing Europe was impressive last time out but I dont think he beat much to be honest. I think Sublimity is being primed for cheltenham and think he will come right. My other festival bankers would be Franchook, Inglis Drever and Kauto Star. Would anyone be able to post latest odds for these horses as I cant access bookmakers sites in work! cheers

[Louth Exile]

Forpaddytheplaster looks good alright, I was a lot morr impressed with Denman than I was at Christmas, I'd still be sticking with Twist magic for the 2M. Its amazing, I haven't worked out the odds, but Nicholls must be odds on to win the two big chases!! Thats fair going.

I think the champion hurdle is a very hard one to call at the moment