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Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Reply #135 on: November 21, 2007, 03:54:05 PM »
the couple made the mistake of doing it in th public eye where colleagues were present.
Think most of us would have gone with girl(s) from the office, but most of us would have had the sense to keep it on the QT - worse still, yer man is married and shes engaged to be married and sounded like she wasnt stopping or running away from his advances - so they are both sharing the guilt here.

The rules, ridiculous as they seem are not out to stop relationships, but to stop trouble with the workforce/court cases.
If the two were fornicating etc - whos to say that some disgruntled employee who didnt get a promotion/salary increase etc wouldnt take a case out against the company identifying that this guy is givin preferential treatment to his 'bit on the side'.
Or if the girl who was 'fondled' (and seemingly enjoyed it) was dropped by yer man, could she take a case eventually for not getting promotion etc.
This rule is set out to stop relationships fouling up the work environment, and also to prevent court cases etc.

bottom line is , if they wanted to go at it, they should have done so elsewhere out of the public eye.
If stew had been the only person to see it, I am sure it would have gone no further.
As others witnessed it (and subsequently complained) his choice was sadly made for him.
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Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Reply #136 on: November 21, 2007, 08:08:37 PM »
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If any of you who are busting stews balls are willing to risk your job, your house and your savings so that two drunks who report into you are able to have a grope in front of their colleagues that -congrats on achieving Irish Liberty and good luck with minding your own business. Oh hang on a minute thats exactly what Stew's doing minding his own business, and his own career, and his own house.

Totally agree, Stew looking after one.  Cannot believe the number of people giving there opinion when they have not read all the tread.
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« Reply #137 on: November 21, 2007, 10:11:12 PM »
In the US employees are expected to complain about any issues that will cause problems in the work place. This has all come about from the claim culture that exists here. If someone passed over for a promotion and the girl who got groped got it, all of her peers will sue the company and win for damages because nothing was done to deal with the workplace situation that was caused by the groping. If they complain about it, or if their superior know that it happened and nothing is done about it, then they cannot lose the case and the company is automatically liable for the claim. In most companies this is addressed in your employment contract and I'm sure its in Stew's.

Exactly - those busting Stew's chops are most probably fortunate enough not to have to work in conditions where managing a team means watching your own back is as important as doing your actual work.

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« Reply #138 on: November 21, 2007, 10:25:21 PM »
In the US employees are expected to complain about any issues that will cause problems in the work place. This has all come about from the claim culture that exists here. If someone passed over for a promotion and the girl who got groped got it, all of her peers will sue the company and win for damages because nothing was done to deal with the workplace situation that was caused by the groping. If they complain about it, or if their superior know that it happened and nothing is done about it, then they cannot lose the case and the company is automatically liable for the claim. In most companies this is addressed in your employment contract and I'm sure its in Stew's.

Exactly - those busting Stew's chops are most probably fortunate enough not to have to work in conditions where managing a team means watching your own back is as important as doing your actual work.

Look you may all have a point.....Stew just comes accross a bit too cold in all of this. He wants everybody to understand his perspective which is fair enough, but not once has he empathized properly with their positions or commented on the people who complained in the first place (they're the real bastards in all of this). Thats what got to me. I'll accept that it's a different culture and he had to do what he done but it sounds like a cold cold world over there.
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« Reply #139 on: November 21, 2007, 11:26:58 PM »
England v Croatia tonight what a game and had me saying what the f**k is going to happen next
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« Reply #140 on: November 21, 2007, 11:29:04 PM »
In the US employees are expected to complain about any issues that will cause problems in the work place. This has all come about from the claim culture that exists here. If someone passed over for a promotion and the girl who got groped got it, all of her peers will sue the company and win for damages because nothing was done to deal with the workplace situation that was caused by the groping. If they complain about it, or if their superior know that it happened and nothing is done about it, then they cannot lose the case and the company is automatically liable for the claim. In most companies this is addressed in your employment contract and I'm sure its in Stew's.
The fact that he knew about it means that he has to act, if he doesn't as per most contracts of employment, not only will he be fired but they can come after him for costs of any settlement for any claim pertaining to the incident. By the way that also includes someone deciding in 5 years that this is now relevant to their not getting a job, or them getting fired.

If any of you who are busting stews balls are willing to risk your job, your house and your savings so that two drunks who report into you are able to have a grope in front of their colleagues that -congrats on achieving Irish Liberty and good luck with minding your own business. Oh hang on a minute thats exactly what Stew's doing minding his own business, and his own career, and his own house.
Please add all the FFS in the right places if you're still not getting it.

Only opened this thread tonight, and ploughed through it all only to find my position encapsulated on page 10. You have to play it by the book in the States. It only takes one of her girlfriends, a few years down the line and hearing the story for the first time through the fog of the passage of time and a few too many glasses of vino, to convince the woman in question that she was VIOLATED by THE EVIL PATRIARCHY, and before stew'd know it all hell breaks loose.

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Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Reply #141 on: November 21, 2007, 11:29:59 PM »
mcclarens first team selection... Peter crouch as a lone striker??????????wtf  and to follow that up no david beckham to give him the deliveries that proved would have came???????wtf
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« Reply #142 on: November 22, 2007, 07:32:25 AM »
Finding out that one of your closest friends is cheating on one of your closest friends, with another close friend. What. The. Fcuk.
Wondering what to do about it. I know I dont tell close friend number 2, but Im wondering if I approach close friends 1 or 3 about this. Im really shocked. Ive had a enough pints, but I still cant sleep.

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« Reply #143 on: November 22, 2007, 07:54:33 AM »
Finding out that one of your closest friends is cheating on one of your closest friends, with another close friend. What. The. Fcuk.
Wondering what to do about it. I know I dont tell close friend number 2, but Im wondering if I approach close friends 1 or 3 about this. Im really shocked. Ive had a enough pints, but I still cant sleep.

Puckoon - Stay out of this! My advice. Feel terrible for you. But my friend was in the same predicament and fought herself about what to say. She left it and didn't get involved.  So - you stay out of it, you hear me? 

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Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Reply #144 on: November 22, 2007, 09:04:54 AM »
it sounds like a cold cold world over there

In this country, we used to have (metaphorically) priests in the bedroom, supervising people's private lives. The communist states had the secret police more or less in your living room. And the land of the free and the home of the brave has the boss in the bar supervising your behaviour and the lawyer waiting downstairs to sue him if he doesn't do his duty to the system.

Freedom me arse.

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« Reply #145 on: November 22, 2007, 09:28:33 AM »

The fact that he knew about it means that he has to act, if he doesn't as per most contracts of employment, not only will he be fired but they can come after him for costs of any settlement for any claim pertaining to the incident. By the way that also includes someone deciding in 5 years that this is now relevant to their not getting a job, or them getting fired.

Please add all the FFS in the right places if you're still not getting it.

I get that he had to report it, what I don't get is the extremely harsh attitude to the girl who backed him up to HR, the people who have the official record of these things.  She told the truth when it mattered and yet is being punished.

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« Reply #146 on: November 22, 2007, 09:37:09 AM »
Finding out that one of your closest friends is cheating on one of your closest friends, with another close friend. What. The. Fcuk.
Wondering what to do about it. I know I dont tell close friend number 2, but Im wondering if I approach close friends 1 or 3 about this. Im really shocked. Ive had a enough pints, but I still cant sleep.

Puckoon, are you stew?

Is there anyway of getting some of them sacked from their jobs? Seems like the best way to approach it (stateside anyway)  :-\
« Last Edit: November 22, 2007, 09:39:23 AM by theskull1 »
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« Reply #147 on: November 22, 2007, 10:45:37 AM »
Question for Stew, if the man had been the subordinate and the women the manager, and the same thing happened would the outcome have been the same?

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« Reply #148 on: November 22, 2007, 11:02:47 AM »
Finding out that one of your closest friends is cheating on one of your closest friends, with another close friend. What. The. Fcuk.
Wondering what to do about it. I know I dont tell close friend number 2, but Im wondering if I approach close friends 1 or 3 about this. Im really shocked. Ive had a enough pints, but I still cant sleep.

A tight, but not uncommon, spot. Not sure there is much you can do really. I mean what if you approach friends 1 & 3 and they are unrepentant? Or later if it all comes out friend 2 finds out you approached friends 1 & 2 but didn't tell them. If either friend 1 or 3 know you know and bring it up you can tell them what selfish bastards they are, but that's about it. As soon as you know, but delay for any reason in telling friend 2, friends 1 & 3 have you in a spot. And even if you tell friend 2, friends 1 & 3 can just deny and you are the bad guy. All you can do is wait it out and see how the chips fall, stick by friend 2 and realise friends 1 & 3 aren't really great friends, if they would do it to friend 2 they would do it to you.

A lot of friends in there....
« Last Edit: November 22, 2007, 11:28:07 AM by Mentalman »
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Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« Reply #149 on: November 22, 2007, 05:01:58 PM »
Finding out that one of your closest friends is cheating on one of your closest friends, with another close friend. What. The. Fcuk.
Wondering what to do about it. I know I dont tell close friend number 2, but Im wondering if I approach close friends 1 or 3 about this. Im really shocked. Ive had a enough pints, but I still cant sleep.

Puckoon, are you stew?

Is there anyway of getting some of them sacked from their jobs? Seems like the best way to approach it (stateside anyway)  :-\

Ive decided to approach friend 3, just to let them know that their secret isnt really a secret at all. Maybe that might make them take one of two courses of action. Stopping the cheating, or just breaking up the initial relationship and getting together if thats what they really want. Of all the people involved friend 3 is the one I dont really give too much of a flying f**k about. My loyalty has always been with friend 1, but in the course of their relationship ive become really good friends with friend 2, and their entire family.

No skull, im not stew, I just dont like to watch someone I care about getting the shaft. Thats a tad facetious man, I generally expect better from your posts.